Rising Rivalry | MX Nation S4E2
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Marvin Musquin and Jason Anderson have both experienced big disappointment on the track and though they work closely together, on race days they are true rivals.
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These episodes have to be longer, I could watch this all day
Same!
Favorite on going youtube series
Glad you're digging this series, Ralph!
this is really the best motocross series/videos on youtube
it shows the beautiful sides of motocross and everything that is needed to get that far in the sport.
I am going to echo what has been said many time. This is the best Motocross video series on the entire web! The only problem is that they are not long enough and there should be more of them! Excellent job RedBull!!!
Thank you for keeping this series going for all this time, looking forward to each episode!
I had no idea that the top pros ride along with hobby riders.... That's crazy
Yea it's crazy. That's why most pro's ride at their own(sometimes multiple)tracks back east. Property is cheap in the south and parts of Florida, at least compared to SoCal.
Yeah for sure. You could drop a massive bet on whoever is coming second in the championship when it's nearly impossible for them to win, then pay someone to go out on the practice day to take out the championship leader.
Yeah! It's crazy to let a work horse pull a wagon with warped wheels.
I live in SoCal. I ride during the week so I always see pros..
Ken Roczen, Chase Sexton and Hannah Hodges were all out at Orlando MX a while back. Completely open to the public that day but I feel like people came back to watch when they were out and went out when they took their breaks.
Awesome series!!! How many episodes? 6 again. There needs to be 12 for each round!!
9:41 😂😂Anderson just goes strait to the XBOX after his injury😂😂
I pass pros at public tracks
In the pits
me too en x box
What pro's , not the ones I watch on NBCSN.
I do not even want to go on a track if there are pros practicing. Not fair to either of us and not safe. It is like going to a boxing gym for the first time and sparring with Mike Tyson.
Best series yet so epic that sucks so bad for Anderson
Very awesome videos!! I do hope Ken roczen gets some screen time though.
Do more of these!
We hear, ya!
These are not long enough! Love these videos!!
Longer videos please. Awesome job
Yay! Keep em coming
You got it, Lauri!
"second place is horrible" aaah thats a bit harsh aldon!
SKIDS n STUFF He's saying it's horrible for the riders mentalities
haha yeh i know brooo. but the moose better get use to it!
Aldon is a con man
It’s true it fucking sucks
Absolutely loves these mini docs
i started from the first one hours ago been watching all day
I remember back when mfgs used to have private/secret tracks . They have the money . No one to blame but themselves . Wont catch Tomac at Pala or Milestone testing his luck .
Such a great season
Fs in Belgium we all ride with the pros every day grow up
Please upload more of these types of videos
Pretty cool stuff.
public tracks are dangerous for everyone but more so for pros I think. while most guys are out there just to have fun the pros are there working setting lap times. when you look past that everyone is riding dirtbikes the public and the pros are doing two completely different things out there. injuries happen on private tracks too but public tracks seem like an unnecessary risk. tbh i dont like being on the track when my local top riders are on it. the skill gap is too huge, i feel like a car doing 30miles/hr on the freeway which isnt safe for anyone.
BC Beast Yeah that totally makes sense, my comment earlier was more about the attitude about it and all the blame being on the other guy. I think they could still do public tracks but maybe chill out a bit and not freak out about hitting the perfect heart rate all the time, I know they are trying to do the best training though so I see their concerns.
Honestly its not that bad, I used to go to Milestone every Wednesday and everyone would be out there getting ready for outdoors and as long as you hold your line and dont freak out its not a big deal at all....
BC Beast do the tracks in America not have classes? Here in the uk you get an expert,intermediate and novice class , the expert class is no where near pro level but they are good enough riders not to really get in the way
Yes, there are classes but open practice is open unlike road racing where even practice is separated. I understand pro's or even serious amateurs not liking it so open but that really is what's nice about motocross and dirt bike riding in general is the fact that it is informal, open and fun. As Baker said, they really should just rent the track.
Honestly I look at it completely differently. I don't think the pros have any business going to a track like milestone and using it as their training ground. I especially don't think baker should be out there complaining about a young guy learning. It's called a practice track for a reason! He at least fesses up. Yes you could have rented the track out for the day. When you make millions of dollars a year you probably should. If you're not paying for exclusive time on the track, you need to accept that much slower riders are going to be on it with you.
Tomacs a machine!! when he wants to win he wins teach me his ways!
9:39 Jason riding a glen helen replica smashing every rider he comes up on
I got to talk to matild at high point this year, def a highlight of the summer, she's such a dime and smart and dedicated as well
Finally
Tomac is elite
must be longer videos !! (:
Heyyyyy, the track were Herlings went 1-1 while riding his first AMA race ever.
Even Anderson couldn’t believe he was a champion.
Awesome show, but gotta say not a huge fan of those comments about the pros and public on the same track and blaming the other rider for Anderson's crash. I heard that it was more Anderson fault because they were off the track going around a downed rider and that Anderson was going too fast and made an unpredictability turn on the other guy. Can't say for sure though. I totally understand where the team is coming from but they need to respect who makes it even possible for them to get paid to race (the fans and other fellow riders). Acting like you own the place and everything should be exclusive to you is kinda an insult to the rest of us. Again understand the thinking but they should be careful with that.
I think you are misinterpreting that.. I think that their comments are just emphasizing the danger for pros to take such risks.. for you to base your opinion on "what you heard" and to demand respect as if you (or we) cut their check is lame... stop getting your feelers hurt and insulted lol... shit happens, and then you flush it... jmo
VERY. WELL. SAID. BRO. We, all of the average-non-pro riders and fans, pay Anderson's, and indirectly, Aldon's salary, so please don't act like I need to pack up my $hit and go home when you show up at the track. It would be like my local Police telling me not to use the roads, because I might occasionally inconvenience a squad car when they are going to the scene with sirens on. I pay for the roads AND the cops' salary via taxes. Same goes for riding dirt: I pay the track fees and I pay for Anderson's salary when I buy a Husky ...and a portion of it goes to Aldon. Period.
Amac Outdoors either way pros shouldn't ride with public riders. The skill gap is too big.
It shouldnt even be considered. Common sense really
Strange why they didn't mention the Bullet Jeffery Herlings he kicked arse and beat everyone at this meeting.
4:27 he was prob talking about danger boy deegan
Dangerboy got more skill and understanding of whats going on than some pros. I can tell you right now that he aint in nobodies way. Kid can shred
ET3 FTW
Wish they would have mentioned Wilson. Didn't the same thing happen?
Even Kelly Slater had to get his own Ocean (wave pool) at some point.
Have you ever thought that they have never interviewed tomac?
Your average User it’s because he is not signed with red bull he is monster energy
@@shehdnnjdjdnjejndjdiijn1828 they cover loads of riders that are not red bull, Adam ciancurulo for example, Jason Anderson is smothered in rockstar hats and shirts in fact these seasons are often commended for covering riders that are sponsored by other drink brands
. . . But Most of the MXGP Riders are Training on Public Race Tracks and they dont complain 🤔
Except they do. It's just not as publicized.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Guys that are riding the pro track at pala are mostly racers, maybe not pro, but racers or atleast pretty good at ridng, but especially on the main track you're not going to see too many people that don't know what there doing, getting around slower people is part of racing, and anyone that rides main tracks will know to turn to a side to get out of the way.
They need to have scheduled times for practice days. (A class riders & pros, B/C, & D) etc
Aren't there private tracks in California?
Anybody else watching for the 10th time? Anyone?
Anderson sounds like the direction Roczen went a couple years ago when he left Aldon. Train but give me my fun time or what’s the point
It’s doubtful the tracks will ever change. Reason is Pro’s being at their tracks bring more people and money. You have to as a Pro understand. Most Pros were the same when they were kids. The solution is allow both to ride 30 mins together, but then shut down for Pro’s only for like an 1 hr. Open track back up an 1hr off and 1hr. It’s win win for everyone, and safer for both sides. But keep at least 1 sport real. MX has always allowed fans close up and personal unlike the rest.
I will say this to Marvin I saw some supercross footage of a race in France,andcisaw this rider who was absolutely amazing.....didn't know who he was riding number 25 bike,I think I know who that rider is now,it was some old footage and I had just started back watching the euro races so I didn't really know who was who,Marv keep at it Eli is no box of chocolates so do not be upset with yourself,he fitness and his strength is so,don't let yourself get distracted mentally at all,Jason Anderson on the Supercross title i am impressed but I saw it coming Jason's riding was great and his starts were what made me start believing he was gonna win it....I'm not gonna say oh I new he was gonna win,but every time I watched the SX RACES Jason got great starts and he got in position and got out to lead quickly and if he didn't he pushed as hard as he could and stayed up front and on podium every time,then he started getting seconds when he didn't get first and then I said to myself,self he gonna ride smart and win this SX TITLE ON a husky for god sake it really gonna happen wow,and it did great work Jason for holding it together,I been racing superbike and motocross for 40 years and the pressure is the biggest thing that riders have to deal with,getting the points lead in SX must have been a little crazy for Jason but he pulled it off good for Husky I always heard they were great bikes a little before my time I started riding in 1977 or 78 ish,but good work....Marvin be cool man no sweat mellow mellow easy on Marvin don't beat yourself up,it don't help,your riding freaking awsum be cool...
I bet that kid was danger boy
why don’t you make the videos longer ?
Is Jason wearing a Gucci shirt at 9:19? lol
Amagine being the guy that ruined Anderson’s season
You sell your bike, gear and tow vehicle. Buy all new shit, change your riding number and get a new name... Or be shamed out of riding forever...
JUST SPLIT THEM UP, EASY AS THAT. PRO PRACTICE SESSION. THEY SPLIT UP THE MINIS.
When Marvin got mad cause a kid was on the track it made me kinda mad cause we all started somewhere we don’t all just jump on a dirtbike and become Eli tomac
Its a safety thing for all involved. Kids should never be out with adults, some are insanely good but the majority are shit and unpredictable. I see where he's coming from
He was not mad because there was a kid on the track, he was mad because they couldnt practice properly, thats the way you should look at it. Imagine his position, gotta be frustrating, but you wont go there giving the kids father a slap, because you're not mad on them, you are mad about the fact that you cant practice properly. You feel me?
There is NO reason a kid should be "learning" on the main track when Professionals are out there. PERIOD.
Yamahaulin84 so the how are they gonna get better?
Xander Sease by riding on the BEGINNER track. NOT the main track on pro day.
Is it an issue of pros having to deal with amateurs because "they might hurt an ankle and be out a season" OR is it the fact that a kid, or another rider could be seriously injured by someone like JA doing 60 mph around the track. A lot of amateurs out there will probably be used to dealing with pros on the tracks, but someone who doesnt have that experience won't know what to do to get out of the way when Eli Tomac comes bombing around the outside of you like a mad man
Just earlier today TWMX released GoPro from AP23 and he was going so fast it was scary. Not because of the speed itself, but because he's doing all this while dodging and weaving through 9 year olds on 50s. They need to either BUILD private tracks for these pros or rent the tracks out privately.
I feel like the riders have to spend so much on training now that they aren't as rich
I think Alden is a good trainer, but i feel he os not all that and a bag of chips. He did good with rv2 back then, but i sometimes wonder if he is getting in too deep with money and less with training.. this is my observation not talking shit. I want Anderson to get up there! Great potential and has the capability. Although i am a ET3 fan i still would like to see anderson up therer. Just goes to show , u dont need the Baker Factory to win!! I also am not sure how under aldens care that broc tickle ended up testing positive for a substance forbidden under FIM AND AMA. rules and regulations have tremendously changed since i was in the sport.. i truly hope that this sport isnt going to the bidder with the highest money payout. Like i said this is just a observation
Were is Ken roczen ???
Aldon has been concerned about this for years. Why not rent the track then for testing? Or are you going to tell me that in CA in the heart of the industry, there is no one with a private track that they are willing to donate time to a top team?
Milestone is open 7 days a week to the public. There are also no private outdoor test tracks in Southern California.
mehhh, aldon doesn't pay the riders anything. The riders used to pay aldon a ton, now i believe given his exclusive ktm/husq contract that the ktm factory team has picked up the tab for all of their riders to be trained by him. That said the factory team ivesting millions/ hundreds of thousands of dollars may want to protect their investment from brandon out the going full Larry Enticer and just straight start sending it......off berms, bowl turns, braking bumps, hell whatever is around.
With the attitude that Anderson has, I sincerely hope he enjoyed the 1 and only championship he'll ever obtain. He won the SX championship solely because he somehow managed to stay more consistant through the season than everyone else.
The Borden Asylum JA21 has another 250 sx west
Yeah, I'll give him that one. It came down between him and Seely if I remember correctly
I'm not sure if you watch SX, but it always come down to consistency. That's why Tomac hasn't won every year. He is the fastest guy out there but always crashes out. I think Anderson has it right, you are supposed to enjoy what you are doing as much as you can. They risk their lives everyday they ride, and you can't even have a beer once in a while?
Anderson has the attitude of "one and done". He deserves a break just because he finally half-heartedly won the title in his 4th 450 season (without winning but a race or 2)? There are a few guys above him that work 10x harder and are more deserving. He can have a beer, and some R&R but he was in no hurry to get back on the bike. Proof by Aldon being frustrated with him during practice because "he wasn't feeling it". We already knew that Ando was completely toasted after SX season. But in his mind he's already achieved his life goal. What more is there? We know he will never be an outdoor champ so why not just mail it in for the rest of his career? I'd probably be the same way and want to enjoy my millions before I broke my neck. ET is an anomaly. As Matthes is always saying, ET should be working on his 4th 450 championship. Only 1 rider in AMA history has gotten the most wins in a season without winning the title and that was Damon Bradshaw. Until Tomac tied and beat his record not once, but twice in back to back seasons. The only titles ET straight up lost because he wasn't the fastest was 2016 outdoors and 2015 SX. The rest of the titles theoretically should be his, but as you said he can't keep off the ground.
The Borden Asylum you my friend are not sharpest tool in the shed
I don't like musquin but he is a ok rider
w0w
Well where do you expect people to go ride!!!? Track snobs!
You can tell some of these pros are so spoiled. They expect everyone to get off the track and out of their way. Win a championship and build your own damn track.
JH smoked them
cannot believe pros on track with amateurs and novice is allowed, here it isn't. IT IS NOT SAFE.
"Geez, they got some kid out there now... LEARNING.... It's nuts!" Ummmm, it's a public track, right???? If you want your own track, then build one FFS. It's not like RBKTM doesn't have the money to build a dirt bike track in CA. Everyone else does.
Florida is cheap real estate , thats why everyone is going there. California is the gold standard , if you can't afford it , cool , now you know where to go.
lol where’d the deegans go?
Why couldn’t KTM buy some land and create a track? Honda, Yamaha.....what they have billions!