I Figured Out The INSANE Issue With My CL65 AMG But The First Drive Was A TOTAL DISASTER!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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In this video, the Twin-Turbo V12 saga continues. I figured out the insane issue with the hydraulic ABC suspension and all was great. Then bad things happen and the first drive was a total disaster. If you have any idea what the new issue is then drop a comment. PLEASE!
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My S55 had an Accumulator fail and did a similar thing. The Accumulator has a diaphragm with 3000psi Nitrogen on one side to act as a shock absorber. When they fail they can send material into the line. I got lucky and found the piece sticking out when I replaced the accumulators. One way to tell you have had an accumulator fail is fluid will push out of the resevoir.
I havenot seen you testing all the actuators/solenois for action AND blockage...maybe the coils are open or fluid passages on solenoids are plugged in. or worst the suspension ecu is damaged and not actuating the valves...
Run the engine and crack the bleed nipple on the back until air spits out and new fluid comes out. Make sure the system doesn't go dry, this is where you need an apprentice on a ladder for 30 minutes gently topping up the fluid
Did you blow the front to rear lines out from both ends?? Could be a blockage which you moved blowing from one end and it pushed the fluid out. Good luck videos are excellent 👍👍
I noticed one of the lines didn’t blow through straight away, it looked as if it jumped and them spurted! 😂😂
do you think now it could be a electrical problem with the system like the solenoids' to the back section not working .
this is not a criticism but do you think you might have got side tracked with thinking it is a blockage and over looked the electrical side ?
16:50 the way the dust fell off the muffler and flew over the camera was quite magical
Lots of people use stills from this kind of shot as proof of miniature aliens, etc....
I thought that was the dream sequence.
I liked it too, totally unplanned but as you say magical.
There's the problem right there. The ABC system has lost it's magic pixie dust.
I was thinking the same magical!
Alex just started a new trend. Squatted Benz
There should be an a button for that
Does your Benz even squat bro?
Carolina Squat on Benz. I never thought I’d see one .
Shouldn't you be working on a video???
@Richard Hunting Airmatic is effortless compared to this, though
Alex, this is some of the best automotive content I've seen on RUclips. Most channels only show the wins. They don't show the long and frustrating process of working on complex systems or that 3 hours spent on a single broken bolt or bent electrical pin.
Exactly. The fails are what we learn the most from, not the insta-wins after replacing one common failure part. Alex is such a good guy, I hate to see him disappointed after so much time and effort. I can't imagine the pressure to succeed, since this is how he makes his full-time living now. I'm sure he'll figure it out.
There are few things more satisfying than troubleshooting a problem and fixing it. This aspect of most cars is something that has been lost with the advent of all the complicated systems in modern cars. I enjoy watching a master (no matter the format) at his chosen craft.
I totally agree. I was a mechanic for 25 years started in 1980 you had to think logically in them days no computers to help, just good old fashion knowledge!! Shared by mouth, ow the good old days!!! 😄😄😄😄
Agreed, unfortunately with a car like this there may be only a half dozen people in the world that truly know that system to diagnose the fault he's having
I‘m a headhunter but I love to work on my cars, because it is so satisfying. Much more than my business.
@@DAN1E77 ya all you had then was a carburetor and a distributor easy as 123
@@serbia991 yep. A service kit was, plugs points condenser air filter oil filter and oil 👍👍 maybe a cap and rotor too. 😁😁
Excellent content. You’re absolutely awesome. Your passion and skill are bar none.
Thanks Stewart!
@@LegitStreetCars I have a 2001 S55 for sale. 93K miles. black on black. you wanna buy? its in Gulf Breeze Florida on Pensacola Craigslist
After years of owning and working on old citroens I feel your pain, hydroneumatic suspension is a pain. I'd check the function of the rear height sensor at that point as it doesn't look like the fluid is being called to the rear.
The famous height correctors. Could easily drive one insane.
You saved me long before this episode. Your CL65 spec has my 'car-guy profile' all over it. Champagne taste on a beer budget my favorite uncle would admonish me...Jumped eyes wide open, instead to an XK8, and never looked back. Your adventure with this is riveting
IMO xk8 is the most gorgeous coupe ever made
@@jaromor8808 certainly in the post-Viet Nam War era
Mate you never give up. You are doing well. I get frustrated when dealing with problems like you are having when working on cars. Sometimes you just have to sleep on it and come back to it another day. It’s amazing how many ideas you come up with in between.
Good luck.
Hey man! Just a tip for dealing with rubber exhaust hangers. Use some pen oil and grab a set of pliers use the pliers to push against the hanger and bushing. It helps alot.
I would be measuring all the electrical solenoids/valves before I went any further. If the lines are all clear, what else do you have left?
Talking about commitment. Only admirations for you good sir. I hope you get this issue solved!
We honestly hope you’re okay we can tell this was exhausting for you, but it was entertaining and very helpful for us, so thank you for your hard work and take some time off to recover Lol. Best wishes for UK.
Indeed, every single video of the CL65 have been so epic!
I would imagine that you already did this but check everything in the system between the pump and the rear could show something that wasn’t mentioned on camera. Just a thought, but I also know very little about Mercs
Verify the solinoids function in the rear block on the bench.
Verify that when active, fluid flows through the solinoid valve (Air hose it; Solinoid de-energized and energized.)
Verify the electrical cables to each solinoid are functional: Continuity test; Ground loop test (Checking for shorts.).
Verify that the computer is outputting a correct signal to each of the solinoids.
i would apply the pressurized fluid from the front block to the rear block to test the rear system. just switch the feed lines from the pump to test. or maybe the rear shocks sensors are not asking for fluid.
just my two cents
I'm genuinely so so happy for you your hard work / blood / sweat / tears / and $$$$ .
Your so close to the end goal .
Big 👍👍👍👍👍 up from England
Yes! This is one of, if not the, best RUclips series so far. It's afternoon for me, but the day is complete! #AlexAlmighty.
I agree! This is one of the best car repair videos I have ever seen. 😁
I try not to watch all the time so I can binge watch and get stoned! Fantastic channel....
The longer this series goes on the more Excited I’m getting to see this the burn some rubber!!!! She’s gonna make some massive pulls
Alex talking about using 2x10mm sockets…
I can’t even keep one because they are always on the run
The things you manage to pull off in your garage at home always amazes me. DIY spirit at it's finest..
There's logic behind the operation of the system. Have you tried reseating the controller or relays associated with it? The valves are dumb devices which open and close based on commands given by some controller somewhere. Find that controller and or relays and remove them from their circuit boards, clean the contacts and reseat them. Check the boards for burn marks. Also check the fuses.
loose 32 tooth Hacksaw blade for the damaged Thread Repair. For repairing Steel Thread Bar being Installed into Concrete Ceilings to hang Ducting or Cable Trays, its the way to go.
If the mechanicals are all good, you've got an electrical gremlin. Congrats. This is easily the most compelling auto content on YT.
Great great great video Alex. 🦾 I was on the edge of my bed (watching while drinking coffee per normal Saturday routine); with anticipation-even my wife was full of anxiety and she couldn’t give two hoots about fixing cars! You will get there…car guys know that desperate tango of scrounging the parts or fluids in this case to get across the finish line. The great news is even if you hit another bump, this is usually an indicator that the finish line is close so keep that in mind and heart brother 🙏 🏁
Awe man! I was clapping and cheering for you when it looked like you have the front and rear hydraulic suspension working finally, and so disappointed for you when you realized the rear was not working. Dang-it! I do know one thing for sure you will figure it out eventually, no doubt in my mind brother.
If all else fails, just get a coilovers conversion. It gets rid of the problematic abc issues and as well as the airbag sag.
Me getting mad working on cars: GGHHKJEFJJJKNHF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alex getting mad: darn
Keep at it and keep your head up! You're never defeated, just temporarily stymied. Can't wait to see it fully do the rodeo!
I love your channel, everything about it, and I love seeing you rescue cars. And maybe I'm a sadist, but this is, by far the most interesting thing you've ever done. It's a detective story wrapped in a detective thriller. Thanks for the great entertainment!
Has to be one of the solenoids on the front distribution blocks feeding the rear ... .... maybe. Sorry to see you struggle like this. I feel your pain.
No RUclips personality deserves a Gofundme established for automotive therapy more than you do. This saga is more detailed than my boost creep investigation I performed on my 1998 3000GT VR4 about 10 years ago. That car was retired to a used car lot in sacrifice. Keep up the great work!
VR4’s were AWESOME 😎 too bad U didn’t sort it out & keep her…. Mitsubishi’s answer to the MK IV Supra TT 😎 a Japanese CLASSIC in its own right…
Did you figure out your boost creep issue? What was it?
Hey at least you got some progress and that's better than none if you're going to have a car with hydraulics suspension make sure it's an old school lowrider not something computer controlled. Good luck Alex I hope you get it figured out
If the back isn’t getting pressure and you know the lines aren’t clogged, it must be a problem with the pump upfront, or the distribution/valves going to the lines that head to the back.
This looks crazy. Is possible to bleed the system? Glade you found the issue.
I once owned a 2003 S500 that upon hitting a hard bump, both the front & rear suspensions raised sky high leading to the most bone jarring ride I've ever experienced this side of a radio flyer little red wagon. Even with some of the most up to date computer diagnostic tech at his disposal, my indy never figured it out. I sold it 2 weeks later to a young man who slammed it on coilovers. True story...
You have so much patience….you deserve to succeed with this problem. I would probably sit and cry, or set the damn thing on fire!
I've got faith in you Alex. You will get this sorted and all will be golden.
Damn Man! really feel your pain and lack of care at the end of the video! gutted! still some excellent work you have been doing on this car man keep it up. you'll get it im sure!
As a former Benz dealer tech I feel your pain Alex. You are taking it like a champ however. I had a good chuckle with the roadtest. At that point I get it............I don't care if something is rubbing I'm driving my CL65 lol. I wish I could help but have never had to diagnose a similar problem with ABC. I've been lucky replacing pumps and accumulators that cause the rough ride. Sure seems like there is more blockage in the rear now. Could there still be some small chunks in the reservoir getting dispersed throughout the system and getting piled up in those screens? I wish you luck nonetheless from BC Canada!
So all the lines and valve blocks are clear. What's left? Silinoids! The rear ones are bad or whatever controls them is not controlling them.
I agree with the other mechanics in the comments, if the mechanical's and the lines are clear than its gotta be electronic, swap out the solenoids and see if there is any change.
Alex, yours is the first subscription I have ever done. I'm 100% against spam and adding myself to lists, but you deserve this one. I do watch all the folks in this orbit (Hoovie, Tavarish, Doug, Wizard, Sam and Ninja) and yours is the only channel in all of RUclips that I have subscribed to. I HAVE to see you see this through to the end. You'll get it buddy, you always do! I'm jealous you have a 65 car, but you are making me think I have to go with a 63 if I dive in.
Diagnose Dan... The stuff he works out on cars that others can't fix is incredible...
After watching it again it has to be the rear acumulator thats locked, even tho it is new one it seems like it doesnt let the pressure go out of it towards the rear suspension
I mean after watching it again it makes no sense in what did i say previously, has to be blocks or most likely solenoid? no clue at this point
After you discovered the bad accumulator I just knew that would solve everything. I feel your pain.
Check with Hoovie’s friend the wizard he did a conversion on a car with that suspension where he replaced all that crap with coil overs for some guy in Texas. It worked great surprised you didn’t know about that.
Best wishes from Russia, nice content
This is still the most entertaining car show to watch. It really shows how complicated these cars are constructed... and I'm glad that you gain little successes in every episode... I am sure it wil finally be done some day! From my amateur point of view, it seems the only thing that is left, are the rear struts itselves.... maybe the rubber parts went all the way to the connectors back there - since the lines are already cleared.
Awesome saga, it would be nice to have a quick recap about what happen to this car in the last episode about this car.
If you haven’t done so already, try blowing the line from the front to the back. it’s possible that something plastic is working like a valve and letting fluid flow only one way.
Or maybe not. Working on end to end systems requires testing every link. Having basic assumptions when it gets to nightmare levels such as this can causes skipping steps.
If you watch the video he clearly does this
@@peter6947 At about 37:33 he tested by pressurizing from the back to front but we do not see him test from the front or any pressurized liquid coming out the back. It may have been done off camera but the viewer has no way of knowing that.
Hey Alex just a shot here… many of these cars like my old Range Rover, have a safety on the suspension if a door is open it won’t raise or lower.. maybe a door sensor or even the hood? I know you use service mode but…🤔
Incredible amount of persistence from your end, I highly respect that. Hope you'll get it working soon !
This is the best automotive channel on RUclips hands down, keep your chin up Alex...you're the man 🙌
Hahaha those channel locks looked hilarious!!
Maaaaan, it's so frustrating seeing that the back didn't worked....
Thanks for keeping at it Alex. Since there's no Fluid getting to the back. Are those Actuators you rebuilt any good?
maybe I missed something but what lets/forces fluid to the back end? the hoses were all clear but seems there is still something blocking or faulty in the front that lets the fluid flow to the rear. Let the roasts fly if i'm blind and missed something ;-)
Alex, feeling your pain, take a deep breath and 'carry on' . As we say in u.k.. I'm sure it's going to be something simple in the end! Fingers crossed for you
Maybe a different approach, you can always convert to a Air Suspension but of course you would have to add Springs in the rear and sway bars , could be cheaper in the long run but either way I know you can tackle this bump on the road, best wishes my friend!!!!!! Will keep on watching!
God bless Toyota
Alex your patience is incredible. I’d be swearing and throwing things long before now. But I guess that’s why I’m not running a RUclips channel called Legit Street Cars. I wish I had ideas but I don’t, so I just want to wish you the best in finding out what the heck is going on with this. It has to be fixable - just gotta find the issue. Best of luck to you and may Zeus the car god shine down on this vehicle!
I think this is why so many people rip out the ABC system and replace with Coil Overs....
Man you need a beer fund, all I can say is that we’re still here with you. I’m crazy enough to tear that engine up after watching your videos but the ABC?
Well your suffering taught me that it’s coil swap or nothing. It looks cool but that system would defeat most of us and I mean seasoned mechanics.
Cheers
"Really expensive system, but when it works it works really well" should be the official slogan for Mercedes (at 19:50)
Mate, with no codes except ABC too low and lines all checked and fluid levels ok, my next port of call would be the rear suspension risers them selves.
As I hope a "helpful" suggestion isolate the rear axel system and pump it up separately (did it work/not work). isolate the hose and block to the rear and put a test gauge on the line at the blanked-off end (did you see pressure yes/no). fit a test gauge to the output of the block supplying the rear of the car (did the block and line show pressure (yes/no). Be very careful of the potential for trapped pressure I have seen the result of pressurized hydraulic oil injuries they are horrendous and very painful if not fatal. I still think you have debris trapped in the block but it might just be a pressure-locked valve (with a bit of crud to seal the deal ). A thought might the return line be part of the problem if it cant return it can't pump/actuate the system? not sure on that one it as my oil field pals would say "git her done" it will run it will work
Alex, I admire your persistence! Hang in there.
Did you test the rear solenoids? Maybe jump them to see if they're sending juice to the struts. Better buy more ABC Juice.
Check the rear suspension level sensor link rod im not sure if the rear has them but ik the fronts do but i had an issue similar and it was that but for the fronts
Hope you figure the problem out soon
I just checked and your car has that one for the rear left and right most likey yours is broken causing the car to think its raised so it doesn’t let fluid build pressure
Thank you for showing us the frustration and disappointments that comes with these kind of projects. I know you'll have it at the dyno in no time. I believe, like I always have since the beginning of your channel. Let's hope the transmission can take 600hp after you are done.
I owned a E320 org priced at 58k it sat online for sale over a year in good shape/running other than pano roof issues... gave it away for 3k. Never Mercedes.
Love the videos! Reinforces that there's no way I'd ever own a Mercedes product!
I have a car with compressed air suspension and apart from a couple of degraded air lines that is all that has gone wrong in 20years.
Nothing worse than spending days on something and finding out there is another issue that needs fixing! Best of luck!
Ah the pile of shame. Every mechanic should have one. Shows theres still tons to learn. Unfortunatley my pile would include whole cars...
Dont give up, keep working, just a little more to go.. 🤏💪
Thank you for this video. I will never ever ever attempt to buy a used Mercedes out of warranty.
Alex, if you were a Doctor, you would be the best in the field.... So much respect for your videos and show the world that there is always a fix for anything, just patience and perseverance
Dude if the rear sensor is effed up it will not let the body level Im going through this right now. rear either didn't move or only went to the top. finally looked at level sensor was totally effed up it has to be perfect they dopnt adjust they have one setting
Alex, you are such a determined guy. I give you all the credit in the world. Im sure you will figure it out, and thank you for such entertaining videos. I still love Mercedes Benz ! lol
why dont you put Febi ABC oil from the round green plastic bottle?is cheaper then penthosin
That's a shame, I was really hoping it would work.
Hope you can fix it.
Hey Alex, why don't you upgrade your suspension to some nice coilovers or just standard shocks? It'll ride WAY better than some stupid unreliable hydrulic suspension, it'll drive like eavery AMG should
Keep up the great content
OMG I had a cl600 and fixed that system, what a pain in the ass. Best day of my life was selling that car and never seeing it again!
Hi Alex, just a quick thought. do you have the necessary power back to the solenoid on the rear block or maybe a wire damage in between. Hope this can help.
Thank you. I was considering retro fitting my race car pneumatic active suspension to hydraulic. Not now! BTW, if the brake hydraulic circuit wasn't working, the 1st thing to look for would be air in the line right?
Well just replace the air crap for a standard and regular suspension! Could be fun ha???
Wow, so close but, yet so far... Good luck on this one. You knew it was not going be easy...
Looks like the diaphragm/plunger in the accumulator broke up into pieces and then 3000 PSI pushed it into the valve body.
Man! is it ever a good thing Samcrac didn't get this car! Really, it just shows how insanely complicated things can get on modern cars. That Land Rover that Sam tried to fix the engine on was another example. He even had a Land Rover tech helping him. He did everything right, but just couldn't fix it. I wish we could have followed that car to see whatever became of it.
I feel same way with my gremlin its a 72 pantera brake system. 😂 great videos keep up good work
keep going brother, beat that crappy benz, Love and support from Israel!
Might sound stupid, but could you have an airlock in a valve block or something? Just crazy that the system is still refusing to work after all you've done with it Alex. You're a patient man, I think I'd have burnt it to the ground by now 🤣
ha!
was gonna mention that there's such a tool as a thread file...seems like you're already all over it in any case 😂😉👍
I remember the Car Wizard saying that there is a jack mode for cars with hydraulic suspension and if you jack it up with it not being in jack mode then the computer needs recalibration. Could this have happened at some point?
Are you certain all the fuses are good? Is there voltage and ground at each solenoid at the right time? This stinks of an electrical control root cause.
Following you! Can't wait to see the fix!!
Seriously, you are the king of the stories, I enjoyed every minute!
I have hope that you will figure out that ABC Suspension may God bless you