I agree100% placing laws on a hobby that I have never seen an injury more than a cut finger! I’ve played college hockey which has injuries daily! When is there going to be laws placed in that sport or any other!
Laws passed by parliament are not, by their very definition, unlawful. Full stop. You may not like them, but that's irrelevant. You vote for a government, you hope they get in. If you don't like what they do, vote for someone else. You can even petition parliament to change a law, and if you get enough signatures, they will look at it. Laws can change, and they do so regularly. Democracy can only please some of the people some of the time.
Getting older, I wasn't having as much fun leaving home to fly somewhere. I fly little stuff now in the backyard, at treetop level and below, mostly below. If any full size aircraft is operating in that airspace, they have bigger problems than my little models, and I'll go to court and prove it if necessary.
Yes! It is great to fly micros in the back yard where the only way convergence with a full scale can happen is if they are violating the FARs or they are making an unplanned landing
mostly the same here...well over 30+ models, most that see little flight now days, have moved back to little aircraft, multi rotor and fixed wing and Heli....SO....here in the US anything under 250 grams is exempt from registration thus exempt from the new imposing steal the hobby rule the FAA is demanding unless we somehow can change it for recreational operators
With one stroke of a pen, the 250 gram rule can be removed and they can require everything that flies to be registered. So I wouldn't trust that at all.
You will do exactly what you're ordered to do. You have no say so. When instructed to do so, you will sit down, face the wall and shut your mouth. OR YOU WILL BE FINED. Welcome to the united states of NORHT KOREA. Remember. They're watching you.
@@gisall8205 That's been going on (watching and monitoring Americans and other people in violation of the law) for so long it's a joke when they say they don't know who is who and what they are doing. They have super computers they use to fill in the gaps of missing information and just use "security" as an excuse to manipulate the cash flow in the favor of themselves. The FAA knows no terrorist is going to register or identify a drone they intend to use. This is all about money... The FAA used to be full of great people but now it's getting filled up with lower class people willing to destroy the US Constitution for a "job" and a pay check. Some if not most people will do anything for money... just look at Boeing's Senior scientist Dr. Mark Skinner (my neighbor... what are the odds of that if (e{a}/t=E is the equation for the fine structure constant.... look it up) I was forced to sue because he never expected anyone outside of our HOA to notice he said as a MCR HOA Board member he owned the Maluhia Country Ranches HOA road separating our two lots to stop my access and build in the restricted road setback area after building his first house over his property line on his neighbors lot to avoid the 30 ft property line setback! What followed shows how people in power are really in trouble due to their belief that honesty has nothing to do with power. In reality honesty has EVERYTHING to do with power as without the trust of the people you have no power... just a weapon pointed at your back waiting to prove it. The rich are going to flip their own table of wealth without change. The good doctor ruined his own property values harming everyone else's including his friends on the HOA Board willing to help him cheat and break the law. What goes around comes around... just ask Hitler (even if he survived to live in fear as some believe).
This is all about big companies like Amazon, UPS, Google and now Apple wanting hobbyists and the little guy’s out of what they consider their new future cash cow. They also want to make it so that no private individual can compete. That is all this registration and remote ID issue is about. Nothing more, nothing less.
No need to plunge into conspiracy theories. You don't need corporations conspiracy to crack down a tiny hobby to explain what could be easily explained by a bunch of greedy bureaucrats and populist politicians.
Bruce, Thanks for what you do for the hobby! Some thoughts that I have had: Those who fly at the local club, from scale airplanes - fixed wing trainer - helicopters - quad copters of all types. Those who fly at the local park or do slope soaring. Those who fly "Drones" for profit, from aerial photography - search and rescue - agriculture - industrial inspection. Those who fly "Drones" for the military. All have one very important thing in common - Someone is either in direct control of the craft at all times or someone is monitoring the craft at all times and have the ability to take direct control. The entities who are behind the push for regulations want to put autonomous craft in the air. Craft that will be totally reliant on software and sensors for travel. Hmm, I wonder how large - heavy these machines will have to be before they can be profitable? As you have pointed out many times, the safety record is there that proves the hobby is safe. The safety record of the folks flying for profit is there. There is no justification for the regulations that are being proposed in the US or anywhere else. The regulators are focused on the wrong sector. Where are these delivery drones going to fly that does not pose a significant risk to people, property or the baby dolphins. Are they going to be allowed to fly over private property? I don't want to have one fall on my home. Are they going to be forced to fly over existing roadways? I don't want one dropping on my vehicle. Like I have already mentioned how large a craft will be required for such machines to be profitable? I would love to see that risk assessment. Thanks again Bruce Ed Ratliff USA
I like to treat every challenge as an opportunity up till now the hobby has been about building interesting air craft sorting electronics and all things related to fpv now I have the opportunity to explore RF absorbent materials silent propulsion night vision cameras, basically learn the art of stealth
You hit the nail on the head brother. That is precisely what they fear. Because despite what they would have us think, if anyone had the stones, they could build a drone OTS that could fly right through the front door of the White House. Sept 11th proved it. The US military is totally unprepared for any attack of the homeland. They've spent all our money on corruption, corruption, corruption and barely working prototypes.
I will never register any of my models. If cyclists can use the roads without registration and no insurance. And a cyclists dies nearly everyday on the roads why should I have to register my models that have never caused a fatality
And model airplanes dont need roads, traficlights, policing, garages, bridges, tunnels, they just need some " ! 3 €#€ free air " :) So what is costing money?
it's obviously the money needed for the leaves and branches i hit on my way down, bet someone has to go out and pick them up? right? yeah that's what they need the money for :-)
Not quite the same could be said about bicycles here in the UK, they use the roads free of charge and have no insurance and other road uses get the blame for accidents involving them doing stupid things :( The whole issue is one simple question, if you are going to fly drugs into a prison or a bomb into the target using a drone, will you be registering (Yes) (No) please put an X in the box.
Government ALWAYS wants to get bigger and are ALWAYS looking for new streams of income. Government employees usually have lifetime employment. Government administrators are very arrogant and refer to individuals who are not employees as another subservient class of people that they shall oversee. That's the bottom line. They use public safety as a reason for 90% of their useless laws, regulations, etc. Thank you for your channel. I have been watching you for years.
Gads, if your referring to US government, you clearly have never involved yourselves in improving your community. After all, it is so easy to stand across the street and toss stones, rather than make an appointment with your Mayor or any department head and educating yourself.
You can blame the people that fly their drones in area you’re not supposed to fly at, wall rides against tall buildings, flying over the highways, and etc. those people are the ones that going to get it banned.
You are absolutely right about the zero deaths and it being a safe hobby. So the big question is why are they doing it? Just for another tax? I think They want trackers on everybody. GPS attached to everyone. Either by your cell phone or an rc plane sitting in the backseat of your car.
I'm not registering and I'm not flying my planes at the moment thank you Bruce I'm with you and I'm glad you mentioned the fact that this drone witch hunt is impacting on model plane flight also
4:03 "not been one single death ever ... flying a multi-rotor drone" the legislation covers all RC model aircraft, not just 'multi-rotor drones'. There have been 2 deaths in the UK from hobbyist RC aircraft (around 20 years ago), so there is still a risk. Registering involves answering correctly some common-sense questions, so it's not all bad. The problem isn't the registration; it's the creeping restrictions - which would still happen even without registration.
I’m done with the AMA they don’t have my best interest in mind I’ll continue to fly in hayfields and on my own property they’ll have to pry my foamy from my cold dead hands.
Spot on Bruce. I've spent thousands on drones since 2016 and will never register, even if I never fly again. These rules are Draconian and unwarranted. Keep fighting like Britain did after the French capitulated.
In Thailand they were also pushing people to register but at the end of the road the whole thing has just been staged with the complicity of insurances companies and government. #showusthebodies and #followthemoney
@@jamespondy0 and Google ,UPS etc. We have more votes but will it be enough? we need to push back or they will take more. delivery drone are a pipe dream LOLz
@@mattraymond2935 the delivery drone thing is a gimmick to sell to the FAA, and ignorant customers. Minus places like hospitals, where they have controlled areas to receive something like that. And there's a protest going on at FAA headquarters on February 29th put on by UFDA crew.
Bruce,Your a GREAT guy!The world's best and smartest hobbyist.For me my R/C hobby is a small portion of my many interests.I love electronics,and mechanical devices.Also car audio technology.So,the concern for me is minimal.Who I do fly,I fly at a public park for and hour or to.Most time spent recharging my Li PO batteries.I recently visited my local hobby shop.The owner feels this new proposed rule will not come to fruitation.So maybe everything will turn out fine.But I will help you fight for our great hobby.
Hi Bruce When I was a kid I build aircraft models with my father and flew them at our local airfield. That was the first step to a 30 years proud career in aviation, I retired late 2018 from a national airline. I don't agree that registration kill the hobby but RI will kill for sure. Is RI that needs to be fought with all our forces. Although I don't think that registration brings any safety, I didn't mind to register if it is free. Some countries have registration schemes that are on line and free, why the UK charges 9 pounds? In my country registration of 250gr and above UAV is mandatory but the aviation authority doesn't have a scheme to do it. However, all drones with camera regardless of weight need to be registered with the Air Force. This registration is on line and free. But every flight has to have an authorization from the Air Force. Luckly where I usually fly the Air Force grants a 60 days authorization.
Hi Bruce, don't get disillusioned with the people that have registered, they have no backbone and are the sort of people that let the Gov. run their lives for them. These people need a crutch to live their lives. The Hobby needs you to stand firm and fight this ridiculous law. You're doing a grand job. You have my support and the support of many....Regards, Pete
Everything that you have said is true. My experience of my peers is that they have registered because:- "It's not much and it was going to happen anyway". Even A senior offical of the BMFA told me that he "didn't know why I refused to register". "So you're going to ground all of your aircraft just because you refuse to register as a matter of principal?" "Well that's up to you but it seems a bit silly for the sake of £9".
Yet again words of wisdom from Bruce, I helped run my local model flying club. Our insurance was private from the BMFA with far better cover over many many years our premium never increased unlike car insurance. Stands fact how safe this hobby is !!!!! Keep it up Bruce thank you 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@CrstnJdiKnight what DJI was pushing for is "NOTHING" like what the FAA Is pushing for. READ their letter. I have no problem with the PASSIVE no cost remote ID system that DJI was talking about.
THANK YOU BRUCE !!!!! Do not comply, ever. At least here in the U.S.A. its time to remind them that they are public servants not public officials. Damn, i'm so tired of the government shoving laws and rules down down my throat
Dude, rant on! Thanks for posting. I haven't registered, I'll be flying sub 250g through the summer to see where it goes. I build my own models and mostly fly on my own land.
What happens when AMA fields start disappearing? Besides as is you're going to be stuck flying at those fields with no chance for new ones to be built.
Jeremy Pierce means you paid for the very organization that stood by and did NOTHING to help the hobby and sold out to the FAA to get forced membership and FRIA flying only demand...we all thought they were working for the hobby, we see that was NOT the case....so you did not pay for one fraud , and yet paid for another.....
Bro, you're paying a membership for a company that gave in to the FAA for the right to monopolize the hobby for privilege and unjust regulation. The AMA does not care about Open Space recreational model aircraft aviation, they want you to fly at their private governed and regulated flight fields where the FAA has granted immunity.The AMA and FAA are partners and you are helping the FAA get what they want... Unjust Regulation of where and when you can fly your aircraft.
Totally agree people shouldn’t register, sadly I think the hobby is doomed because big corporations want the airspace and companies like DJI want to be the only game in town when it comes to compliant models you can fly, but I’m not going to be complicit in my freedoms being taken away.
John Citizen Hey John, Mike from the US here. They took away your guns, they took away your knives. You are basically at the fascists mercy. May the Good God in heaven have mercy on you. We in the US are fighting the good fight to keep our freedoms. It is so sad to see how individual freedoms are attacked in the name of homogeny.
Kids have to be 18 to own a drone, yet from 16 you can learn to fly a real plane... Those who make the laws never had the plot in the first place. Xjet you got everything right!
Bruce sir thank you . You are in my prayers. Thank you for the information I live in the US and have not registered drones or planes an refuse to tuck tail drop my head and give away my hard earned money. We are taxed to death as is. Bless you brother Bruce keep fighting.
17:22 "I heard the other day from reasonably reliable sources that CAA in the UK are even considering the regulation of indoor flights" *W* *T* *ACTUAL* *F* ?!?
@@jibbajabba4597 Err you need to look at what the FAA in the USA are proposing over indoor flyers, they want the same level of regulation applied to them over Remote ID etc so it seems likely the CAA will follow suit if it goes ahead in the USA⚠️ So prepare yourself if you are an indoor flyer in the UK, you will most likely have to comply with very restrictive future regulations, even flying a small nano model aircraft in your own home⚠️
PD Tech wanting something and actually doing it are two different things, if the CAA were so eager to copy the FAA proposals, then why have they adopted the much better and sensible EASA regs instead? If anything its the FAA which is doing the copying since RID has been written into our law for nearly a year already.
@@jibbajabba4597 The internet is a great place to look back on comments just like yours and be able to say, 'I told you so!' 😁⚠️ I look forward to a future where we can fly model aircraft without unnecessary, restrictive regulations, where you can build your own models and fly them in your own property without fear of prosecution. BUT I fear we have a darker future, where any model aircraft sold will have to comply with a strict set of regulations, including Remote ID and don't be deluded and think the next raft of EASA regs coming into effect in July 2020 will be the last⚠️ That's just the beginning, the next wave, there will be more, you either jump on, register and accept every rule they conjure up and throw at you or you jump off, stand firm and just say NO MORE! I've jumped off, happily flying my Mavic Mini without the hassle of having to register⚠️😁👍😎
PD Tech yes agreed and if we end up sharing a cell, you can say I told you so. BTW you do realise that after 1/7/20 you need to register if you want to fly that Mini outside right? It falls under A1 C1 class (model with camera). I suspect what will happen is the same as the electric scooter, we will be regulated out of the air but nobody will enforce it and eventually a proposal will come to de-criminalise it, probably after Amazon have abandoned drone delivery as being impractical and expensive or after one of their drones has crashed into The Shard. I have to register because my club requires it, if I ever leave that club then I'll sell up, it's boring flying by yourself after being in a club enviroment. People like Bruce do not help in the slightest, they stir shit up among members in clubs and cause arguments, resentment etc. and while we are sitting in the corner arguing over semantics, the CAA sit on the other side laughing at us because thanks to people like Bruce they don't even need to do anything to create division, he does it for them. Maybe if Bruce put as much effort into rallying the troops and uniting the fight instead of belittling people from behind his keyboard we might have a fighting chance, until then we don't.
Well said, no common sense anymore. We are quickly losing fpv, the internet, our freedoms, etc.. It may be worse In the US but pretty sure others will follow :/ .
I know here in the US we currently use apps to let the FAA know when we're flying in uncontrolled airspace. They either tell you ya or nae through a text message. I remember when I was little....We used to fly right at our local airport. Since then the airport grew to a regional airport and all the fun stopped. In fact, they have controlled the airspace so much, that some people gave up the hobby. I agree with what you had to say in this video. Really glad people like you are standing ground for the hobby we love and enjoy so much. I hope others follow. It's expensive enough getting into and maintaining this hobby, let alone being taxed by the filthy rich.
I was going on holiday when one of the Gatwick incidents occurred in 2018. We were stuck in the airport lounge for an hour and a half, with no information. When we eventually boarded, the pilot told us that reports of a drone flying nearby had been made. So I'm on both sides of the fence. My son asked me to give his drone to the local charity shop, and now we don't go out as often.
Implementing a licence to fly creates work for a government department, this work needs to be paid for hence the licence fee. Its a way of legislating addition income for no reason.
Well said! The Hero we need! I licence my car and in return get to use the road networks and of course we need to make sure road users are safe and qualified. If I was told I shouldn't drive anywhere, I wouldn't licence or even have a car. If licencing drones granted me access to half the airspace (away from airports/cities) and supported my rights to do so, I would queue up to pay. Follow the analogy; if I'm driving safely and some random busybody told me I shouldn't, I could point at my registration and tell them to mind their own business. No point in getting a drone or licencing it if it doesn't grant me anything in return.
Thanks for the video Bruce. I wonder if later in the year the Police will allocate a small task force (2 nationwide would suffice) to visit flying sites (addresses and flying times available from BMFA) and perform spot checks. Mounting numbers of £1000 fines might drive us to register.
Please explain what the founding fathers have to do with this ... He is referring to people who fought for freedom, not people who left Europe to start a new society.
@@frisovandevijver8893 They fought four our freedom .The American Revolutionary War, also known as the American War of Independence, was a war between Great Britain and its Thirteen Colonies in America which declared independence in July 4 1776 as the United States of America
@@mattraymond2935 thank you for the history class, but this is not at all what he is referring to. The founding fathers wanted to be independent. I think the English where far from friendly and oppressive for sure, but we can not put a label of fascism on their heads since this was not invented yet. This only happened in 1915... What he is talking about is freeing yourself from fascism and the right of freedom. The fathers wanted to be free from the English and in doing so eradicated almost all the Indians....great job !!!
@@frisovandevijver8893Tyranny and fascism are both dictatorships. Native Americans got a raw deal. what does that have to do with toy planes and helicopters?
@@mattraymond2935 don't know Matt, you brought up your founding fathers whilst they had nothing to do here. I love your understatement btw " a raw deal " With remarks like this the founding fathers will not be the only one to turn in their graves.
I recently got me a 2.5" quad and I have an absolute blast with it! , almost as good as a 5" but I still love the 5, I was surprised how good the 2.5 actually flies! I love it! :D
Well said Bruce. Our freedom Is slowly being etched away and I don't just mean in this hobby, but In life In general but nobody can see It. I have been a member of the BMFA for a number of years now and I really wish they would grow a "pair". I have a number of sub 250g models that I fly. In fact they are all I have flown for months! And they are a lot of fun and also less intimidating to the ramblers or dog walkers that also share our fields etc. I have no intention of registering
I agree that a registration policy for model aircraft is an unnecessary burden for honest people.I was against it the first time it was rolled out.It's too bad that our RC flyers were bamboozled into registering for fear of reprisal. As it is now,we are writing our state representatives to further press our case for opposition.You are right,if no one registered in the first place,there would be no money to fund a useless government venture like this.A class action law suit would probably be the thing to do to get the agency's attention.I thank you again for the work you do here.It's a pleasure to share ideas freely on your channel.Many kind regards from the USA!
I PROMISE I will fly my quads and planes/wings with laws or without! It’s a choice I make, better than going to the bars! This hobby gives me the excitement in my life that I need and love! No one is going to stop that! PERIOD
look at this from different angle......this is not about RC models or large aircraft.........., it's about Clearing and Selling low level airspace to the highest bidder ..........its all about the "new" delivery by drones idea........amazon etc don't want anyone to bring down their delivery drones carrying product that they will have to compensate for if it doesn't arrive..........its simply making it to hard for the current users, and they will eventually go away.........or they will have your number to call if you bring an expensive drone and its load,.......or maybe have a pizza fetish and net one.......
Wouldn't it be awesome if everyone would boycott these delivery services to the point it would be cost ineffective! It's sad though that the majority of the population wont be concerned with this infringement of our freedom but instead be all too excited for whatever slight convenience will be gained by receiving a package via drone.
@@bordersn73 Probably the same people that cry about drones bothering them with the sound, cameras, etc. They don't think about the restriction on hobbyists that mostly try to avoid being a nuisance is going to free up the space for the commercialization of that space. Then try getting Amazon to not fly near your house...if the government is going to ruin a hobby to benefit Amazon, they certainly won't protect you from Amazon ruining your peace and quiet.
Well said Bruce. No need for us all to be dictated to. Stuff the registration and carry on flying. A lot of people in the uk have not got the balls anymore. We have all gone soft and self centred.
I agree with all your comments Bruce. We all need to stand as one and fight for our freedom. I'll not be registering in Australia when our time comes. Fortunately I fly in remote locations, though it'll be hard to hide my hobby interest since I've purchased so much and registered many products over the past 50 years.
I'm an avid UAS scratch builder, line-of sight plane flyer and safe operator (I too follow the safety rules when I fly) BUT, I will not register, sign up for a membership or apply for licensing for my aircraft that the FAA regulates where and when I can fly; to hell with that.
The law will stay but if nobody obeying it and no incident occur, such law will lose its credibility and necessity. Its existence will becomes irrelevant.
Hopefully so. Or...they send the Police out to flying sites and start issuing £1000 fines. No such problem if you fly on your own on private land of course.
@@CharlieDeltaEchoVict maybe they will do that in the EU...but here in America, most cops don't even enforce their own laws, so I don't see (most of) them enforcing laws that don't concern them...
Thank you, Bruce for your comments. Much to think about. I especially appreciate your pointing out the 'risk assessment' issue with regard to how the insurance industry has been willing to cover us. I agree that regulation of RC models is totally unnecessary. We do need to keep 'drones' out of the hands of irresponsible folks, but the RC community has proved itself entirely responsible. My take is that, for myself as a glider guider, if I am flying purely according to visual line of sight rules, no FPV, and no autonomous control of a model, then there is virtually no way that I could fly my RC model in a nefarious or publicly dangerous manner, as it would be virtually impossible to guide my glider into a target area--geesh, I'm not even that good at performing spot contest landings!!! I know that 'drone' flying does use FPV and autonomous guidance, but for myself that isn't an issue.
Bruce, to clarify a bit about the registration process in the UK. I am a lifelong fixed wing modeller and member of the BMFA and if I wish to continue flying LEGALLY I have to be registered. I have no interested in tiny sub 250g machines. Most clubs require that club members also be a member of the BMFA. The BMFA requires their members to be CAA registered The BMFA provides our insurance so no BMFA no no insurance and I will not fly without insurance. I take your point re drones not having caused injury or deaths but FW models have on several occasions.
More cyclists killed and injured than anyone by a Bixler....yet no training, insurance or registration to use bicycles ....get a life and I am afraid that it's reachers like you that put people off joining the BMFA
In the UK you pay VED (vehicle excise duty) not road tax. You pay for the damage to the environment in general. This covers things like emissions, taking up space with a vehicle, damaging roads and such. Another example people like to give is fishing licenses. But again you re taking from the environment by either taking fish or at least distressing them. I believe a responsibly used model has next to no impact on the environment. As such there is no justification for a fee.
Your very intelligent and can articulate your self very well. Legend in hobby. Take that free speech! Cheers mate..god bless not about safty whoops hit a fly other day. Broke frame. Fat fly🙄🙄
I live in Canada Bruce. I see this as a huge issue for us too as Transport Canada always takes a page from the FAA. We already have to have at least a basic license to fly anything over 250grams. Ridiculous. Keep up the good fight, and we shall do the same. Cheers
Good work Bruce! I say register the birds as well, greatest threat to aviation we've ever had yet an excepted commercial risk from random autononmous feathered bombs, ask Sully. Register push bikes, E scooters and random golf balls....
Well said Bruce! I always thought registration was a fraud. I’ll always fly, I don’t need anyone’s permission 😬 keep fighting for us, we’re behind you!
I'm not hugely exercised by the UK registration scheme thus far as it does not prevent me from flying where and how I have flown since I first got into the hobby well over half a century ago. The cost isn't a major issue for me because I recall the days when you were required to have a Radio Control Licence from the GPO to operate the radio gear. Back in the 1950s this cost £1 for 5 years - the modern equivalent of slightly over £5/year so the £9/year is broadly similar (I seem to recall the RC Licence went up to £5/year - the equivalent to £20/year now - before it was scrapped in the early '80s in the wake of the CB fiasco). As for the defiance of the law thing, I'm not keen. In your comments you hark back to an era when, overwhelmingly, people did what the government required - cut down the railings round their houses for scrap metal for the war effort, accepted rationing, the works. Now we have a World filled with narcissists who don't accept democracy. See:- www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/mar/02/narcissism-epidemic-self-obsession-attention-seeking-oversharing www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/12/181205133933.htm (To add to this point I would mention that in 1973 when Heath took the UK into the EEC despite a majority against it there were nothing like the protests we currently have against Brexit despite an apparent majority in favour - such was the respect for the democratically elected government even if it was headed up by a total @r$€h0le). So my position is to obey the law but to raise hell with my MP and anyone else who will listen if and when they impose unreasonable restrictions on safely conducted flying. Under the principle of “no taxation without representation” (and the implicit corollary - no representation without taxation) the fact that we are now paying a charge gives us a legitimate voice we didn't have before. BTW - the competence test is a joke - any numpty could guess the answers well enough to pass.
ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO💥Thanks!! Referring back to my comment about taking a test AKA “Achievement” mentioned in the BMFA magazine 🤬 I’m a UK citizen & a member of BMFA including insurance as you mentioned. Apparently, that’s no longer good enough but I have NOT registered, nor do I have any intention of taking a test! Even if I did, where & how would I go about it ?? 🙄 SO - what’s the penalty? How would it be enforced and by whom? If I’m out flying responsibly, will paratroopers drop out of the sky and whisk me away? 🤣 I’D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR TAKE ON THIS & THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR COMMON SENSE! 👍🏼
I’m 16 and have one 5 inch racing drone and a tiny whoop I will never register and I can’t even if I wanted to. I built these myself and apparently it illegal for me to even fly these until I’m 18. I CAN DRIVE LEGALY BUT NOT FLY A 300 gram drone!!!!
Hi Bruce Great video and RANT ! I remember back in the 70s we had to get AMA insurance to fly at the local rc Airport and we were trained by a experience pilot. We had rules that we never flow over people and property. We have lost our way with these ARF and Drones. We don't need to get a pilot to teach them all the right way to fly there models, people can just charge the battery and fly and they are the ones that are needed to learn how and where to fly. Thanks again for the video.
JohnnyD RC right, and I do fly ON MY 200 acre farm! Why would I go pay AMA a membership and so on to fly in a tight circle for 3 minutes with 50 other old farts. Haahhh? Well let me inform you I did do this a few years back. I joined my local AMA and TRIED to fly at their special little fields and the hatred I received from most these people was remarkable to say the least. I only actually was able to fly 3 times in a year because of the way I was treated at most these fields. Most the time I’d just pack up my gear and go to my land and fly without the “as Bruce puts it fascist behavior “ I received from Them AMA asses. Sorry that’s just how I feel and I can assure most others do as well that are FPV Fixwing pilots that fly modern Planes with Autopilot systems and fpv. Safely and responsibly on there (OWN property.) Regardless what anyone says AMA is all for this remote Id crap and all the other laws that will soon follow. What most don’t no is this ID stuff is only the tip of the sword. AMA regardless of them saying they aren’t going to benefit is a straight out bunch of bull. These laws will push most who stay in the hobby to there fields and paying there dues. City dwellers will be impacted the most because unless they join AMA where they going to fly? At AMA certified fields of course. So guess that’s a whole lot of revenue for old AMA now isn’t it? I understand they have there following but it’s not for me. Sorry flying in a tight circle bores the piss out of me. I prefer proximity flying and using the whole 300+ acres I’m fortunate enough to have to fly over. Think if you are going to blame anyone which is what it sounds like you are doing , blame the idiots flying 800mm Planes in local parks full of people and houses right next to the ball fields they are flying over. I see on these FB groups them flying 100mph directly over houses and people and they post this shit for likes and subscribes like fools. Blame them🤷♂️👍
Nothing is wrong with it, I just think that new people are coming to this Hobby and way back when it was harder to get started back then and so we had to learn how to fly by a pilot and now you can go into your yard and fly. Yet there is nothing stopping anyone from learning how to fly and that is why people fly higher than 400 feet.
JohnnyD RC they fly higher simply because they can. Even if a pilot trained them you honestly think most people this day and age are going to follow rules. Lol. Unfortunately I don’t think most do. I try to most the time but like I said I fly our farm and there isn’t Any traffic in that area unless I fly at 30,000ft agL and nothing to get damaged or hurt. Not try to be an ass just irritates the shit out of me that some people are so stupid as to even post the shit they post. IMHO social media is the main tool that’s bringing this hobby down just because it makes it so easy for agencies to see what’s happening. LR flying and above 400agl have been going in for a long long time without incident. It was when this hobby became popular and easily accessed and Facebook and RUclips people figured out they can make money off likes and subscribes.
In my honest opinion, the ONLY reason anyone should have model aircraft insurance is IF the operator in question is independent, flies large aircraft or (small fast aircraft) that can damage property and is prone to crashing on a regular basis; as long as you're well trained and fly safely*... there's no need for model aircraft insurance. (* Flight Safety can be taught and the lessons passed from one enthusiast to another or learned from online video's from recognized and responsible model aviation hobbyist) As far as ARF, RTF and Drone's go... not everyone has the budget to buy 500+ dollar's worth of hobby equipment and model aircraft kit to get in the air to have fun. Hence the reason model aviation companies started to cater to those who couldn't afford a once expensive hobby, consumers can now enjoy the experience of flight without breaking the bank. Also skilled model aviation hobbyist are hard to find to help train the new hobbyist, hence computer simulators to help train them on how to fly without breaking a real model aircraft. An RC Flight Simulator (for a computer) probably didn't exist in the 70's, so new hobbyist had no other choice but to learn the hard way; by Trial and Error... which was extremely expensive. Flying a Drone, is relatively easy... you don't need a runway and you don't need a lot of space; hence it's popularity. However, because the learning curve is so shallow; it takes as little as 5-7 days to fly with some level of confidence. After that people who learned to control their Drone's misused them to spy on private property (among other illegal acts and intents). The REAL problem for Drone operators, is the fact that because they're so easy to fly without any outside support or training, the operators aren't aware of the flight safety rules and regulations most model aircraft hobbyist have learned from other hobbyists while learning to fly. Which is why the FAA is pushing to enforce new laws and regulations that would prevent such attempts next to impossible with licensing and registration of Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS). Unfortunately because the FAA is misinformed, they're combining (and confusing) recreational model hobbyist plane's along with Drone's. Again, the problem isn't the recreation model hobbyist planes; it's the Drone Operators who don't know the Rules of Flight Safety. The FAA only recognizes the Whole Aviation Hobby, which is wrong on SO MANY levels; and it's up to thee model aircraft hobbyist's to teach them the difference instead of having hobbyist blindly following the new rules and paying for the mistakes of the few who made this problem and making up for their mistakes with money from the innocent model aircraft hobby community. I hope this helps you understand what's actually happening and why the model aircraft community is worried the RC Plane industry might go extinct.
Hi. I agree with you in full. This should not be forced to force us. This should be our choice. I have a registered drone, a large platform for cameras for several years but because I wanted it myself. They were entered in the register, official numbers were given, I even have insurance for it but it was my choice. I did it before this whole scandal broke out. And that's how it should be, our choice and not fascist methods under the guise of security. Govern yourself. We choose you and you should listen to us, voters and not lobbying financiers and idiots behind the desk who even did not hold the soldering iron.
Again....ive not registered with the FAA and I'm not going to. I wont have anything to do with this Remote ID crap. I have elders that have flown rc's SAFELY AND RESPONSIBLY for decades. I have flown SAFELY AND RESPONSIBLY for near a decade. I have a 6 year old daughter that has expressed an interest in flying with me. I want her to be able to fly if she continues to show an interest. The FAA wont get any money from me. Bruce....ive been looking at sub 250 gram aircraft. I know you built a very successful sub 250 gram model a while back. Id be very excited to see what kind of sub 250 gram models you come up with. In the meantime, my bigger models are either gonna get sold or sit on the shelf.
@@bren42069 lol...aren't you just the pessimistic one in the group!!! If the FAA comes for the 250 gram aircraft, then so be it. I'll start driving rc ground vehicles or take up knitting. I'm not giving the FAA any money!!!
They're making a mockery of us. This is the thin edge of the wedge. Just like it was "3 weeks to flatten the curve" it's just "£9 to register". Sending my condolences to the stamp collector😂
Funny all this was around for 50 years and nothing was said. Once a camera was strapped to them they suddenly want to track those who have the ability to survail from the air at low altitudes. What are they afraid of us seeing?
Great video Bruce, and was your last one too! Greetings from Cyprus. I have little respect for the FAA in the US because they preach safety, and yet when Boeing 737's were dropping out of the sky and killing people (Rudder hydraulic issue), the aircraft was not grounded and aircraft continued to crash. In Europe when Concorde crashed, the whole Concorde fleet was grounded by the European regulators. For me this is all about big business demands, and nothing to do with safety! Cheers mate!
I registered here in the US when they came out with the rules, got my HAM licence just for the hobby . only been questioned once. I pulled out a fistful of paper and the officers didn't know what to do so left me alone.I was flying FPV in a closed for the winter National Forest camp ground. Legally I was in the wrong and I get your point but having a fist full of papers saved my butt
They wont get a 1p never mind £9 off me. I think in June its ANYTHING with an fpv camera. They just want money off you. its already worse than most people know.
The non flying public overwhelmingly support the registration scheme. You’re not just arguing against the state, you’re arguing against most of the population too.
It doesn't matter if there is proof or not of risk, they have already decided they are moving forward with this and it's going to happen. There may be some differences when it is actually rolled out but the days of just being able to go and fly anywhere anytime is coming to an end. There are no bodies to show, but that's irreverent and they can lie all they want, it may be one way in NZ but here in the states things are changing and just saying "Im not registering" is fine for now, but that will change.
I will follow safety rules when flying but I will not register or pay for the draconian policing of drone operators!.
Draconian policing of ANY flying model heavier than 250g, not just "drones" :(
cool down Kodi
I agree100% placing laws on a hobby that I have never seen an injury more than a cut finger! I’ve played college hockey which has injuries daily! When is there going to be laws placed in that sport or any other!
I am with you my man
I refuse to accept unlawful laws.
Exactly, violates my constitutional privacy!!!
Laws passed by parliament are not, by their very definition, unlawful. Full stop. You may not like them, but that's irrelevant. You vote for a government, you hope they get in. If you don't like what they do, vote for someone else. You can even petition parliament to change a law, and if you get enough signatures, they will look at it. Laws can change, and they do so regularly. Democracy can only please some of the people some of the time.
Getting older, I wasn't having as much fun leaving home to fly somewhere. I fly little stuff now in the backyard, at treetop level and below, mostly below. If any full size aircraft is operating in that airspace, they have bigger problems than my little models, and I'll go to court and prove it if necessary.
That's how I enjoy this great hobby too :-)
Yes! It is great to fly micros in the back yard where the only way convergence with a full scale can happen is if they are violating the FARs or they are making an unplanned landing
Same here
mostly the same here...well over 30+ models, most that see little flight now days, have moved back to little aircraft, multi rotor and fixed wing and Heli....SO....here in the US anything under 250 grams is exempt from registration thus exempt from the new imposing steal the hobby rule the FAA is demanding unless we somehow can change it for recreational operators
With one stroke of a pen, the 250 gram rule can be removed and they can require everything that flies to be registered. So I wouldn't trust that at all.
No registration. No memberships. I'm not paying one red cent to fly my toys around for 2 mins at a time...
Agreed. Flying my toothpicks around the yard and street.
Totally agree
agreed
You will do exactly what you're ordered to do. You have no say so. When instructed to do so, you will sit down, face the wall and shut your mouth. OR YOU WILL BE FINED. Welcome to the united states of NORHT KOREA. Remember. They're watching you.
@@gisall8205 That's been going on (watching and monitoring Americans and other people in violation of the law) for so long it's a joke when they say they don't know who is who and what they are doing. They have super computers they use to fill in the gaps of missing information and just use "security" as an excuse to manipulate the cash flow in the favor of themselves.
The FAA knows no terrorist is going to register or identify a drone they intend to use. This is all about money... The FAA used to be full of great people but now it's getting filled up with lower class people willing to destroy the US Constitution for a "job" and a pay check. Some if not most people will do anything for money... just look at Boeing's Senior scientist Dr. Mark Skinner (my neighbor... what are the odds of that if (e{a}/t=E is the equation for the fine structure constant.... look it up) I was forced to sue because he never expected anyone outside of our HOA to notice he said as a MCR HOA Board member he owned the Maluhia Country Ranches HOA road separating our two lots to stop my access and build in the restricted road setback area after building his first house over his property line on his neighbors lot to avoid the 30 ft property line setback! What followed shows how people in power are really in trouble due to their belief that honesty has nothing to do with power. In reality honesty has EVERYTHING to do with power as without the trust of the people you have no power... just a weapon pointed at your back waiting to prove it.
The rich are going to flip their own table of wealth without change. The good doctor ruined his own property values harming everyone else's including his friends on the HOA Board willing to help him cheat and break the law. What goes around comes around... just ask Hitler (even if he survived to live in fear as some believe).
I will not comply with licencing or registration. I will not beg great leader to fly my toy in an isolated park or other places away from people.
This is all about big companies like Amazon, UPS, Google and now Apple wanting hobbyists and the little guy’s out of what they consider their new future cash cow. They also want to make it so that no private individual can compete. That is all this registration and remote ID issue is about. Nothing more, nothing less.
No need to plunge into conspiracy theories. You don't need corporations conspiracy to crack down a tiny hobby to explain what could be easily explained by a bunch of greedy bureaucrats and populist politicians.
Civil disobedience! Never test! Never register!
Do you have a license for that trampoline sir. Your kids are in controlled airspace.
Perfect reply! Love it!
Just wait til those little rascals bring down a 747...we’ll all sing a different tune then
Perfect platform for a "bowling ball missile"! SSSHHHHHH
If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.
Thomas Jefferson
That was then. You're now living in the united states of NORHT KOREA. Shut up and do as you're told. Or they'll come after your money.
Bruce,
Thanks for what you do for the hobby!
Some thoughts that I have had:
Those who fly at the local club, from scale airplanes - fixed wing trainer - helicopters - quad copters of all types.
Those who fly at the local park or do slope soaring.
Those who fly "Drones" for profit, from aerial photography - search and rescue - agriculture - industrial inspection.
Those who fly "Drones" for the military.
All have one very important thing in common - Someone is either in direct control of the craft at all times or someone is monitoring the craft at all times and have the ability to take direct control.
The entities who are behind the push for regulations want to put autonomous craft in the air. Craft that will be totally reliant on software and sensors for travel. Hmm, I wonder how large - heavy these machines will have to be before they can be profitable?
As you have pointed out many times, the safety record is there that proves the hobby is safe. The safety record of the folks flying for profit is there. There is no justification for the regulations that are being proposed in the US or anywhere else.
The regulators are focused on the wrong sector.
Where are these delivery drones going to fly that does not pose a significant risk to people, property or the baby dolphins. Are they going to be allowed to fly over private property? I don't want to have one fall on my home. Are they going to be forced to fly over existing roadways? I don't want one dropping on my vehicle. Like I have already mentioned how large a craft will be required for such machines to be profitable? I would love to see that risk assessment.
Thanks again Bruce
Ed Ratliff USA
95% of the time I am flying where nobody cares...I can forego organized flying while this works through. I am with ya Bruce.
I like to treat every challenge as an opportunity up till now the hobby has been about building interesting air craft sorting electronics and all things related to fpv now I have the opportunity to explore RF absorbent materials silent propulsion night vision cameras, basically learn the art of stealth
@LeglessKiwi Payload oo you know any thing the doesn't take it over 250g I wouldn't want to commit a hennas crime against society would I :-)
You hit the nail on the head brother. That is precisely what they fear. Because despite what they would have us think, if anyone had the stones, they could build a drone OTS that could fly right through the front door of the White House. Sept 11th proved it. The US military is totally unprepared for any attack of the homeland. They've spent all our money on corruption, corruption, corruption and barely working prototypes.
Paying for flying toys? Not gonna happen here friend. I have had enough.
Next they will come after our kids for riding bikes or playing ball in the driveway. WTF!
Already happens here in Commiefornia. Even worse if you live under the rule of a homeowners association.
They already decided what kids get to watch on youtube!
Sh!t, welcome to RUSSIA
They already have. children must hear helmets while riding bikes
I will never register any of my models. If cyclists can use the roads without registration and no insurance. And a cyclists dies nearly everyday on the roads why should I have to register my models that have never caused a fatality
"In a mature society civil servant is semantically equivalent to civil master". -Robert A Heinlein
And model airplanes dont need roads, traficlights, policing, garages, bridges, tunnels, they just need some " ! 3 €#€ free air " :) So what is costing money?
it's obviously the money needed for the leaves and branches i hit on my way down, bet someone has to go out and pick them up? right? yeah that's what they need the money for :-)
The money they collect is to fund the over expensive registration system and to line the pockets of the contractor operating it.
im sure this has created high paying jobs for good friends of gov officials
Well said Bruce!
Not quite the same could be said about bicycles here in the UK, they use the roads free of charge and have no insurance and other road uses get the blame for accidents involving them doing stupid things :(
The whole issue is one simple question, if you are going to fly drugs into a prison or a bomb into the target using a drone, will you be registering (Yes) (No) please put an X in the box.
So the new uk thing about having a recording device ( under 250g but has a camera )
If I throw my phone in the air am I breaking the law 🤔😂😂
How heavy is it? :)
yeppp :D
@@karldonald748 251g 😂😂🤦♂️
After July, quite possibly lol.
Government ALWAYS wants to get bigger and are ALWAYS looking for new streams of income. Government employees usually have lifetime employment. Government administrators are very arrogant and refer to individuals who are not employees as another subservient class of people that they shall oversee. That's the bottom line. They use public safety as a reason for 90% of their useless laws, regulations, etc.
Thank you for your channel. I have been watching you for years.
hit that nail square on the head
"us VS them"
Gads, if your referring to US government, you clearly have never involved yourselves in improving your community. After all, it is so easy to stand across the street and toss stones, rather than make an appointment with your Mayor or any department head and educating yourself.
You can blame the people that fly their drones in area you’re not supposed to fly at, wall rides against tall buildings, flying over the highways, and etc. those people are the ones that going to get it banned.
@@snafu6548 you must work for the gov snafu
I won't register my Firearms and I damn sure won't register my toys.
You are absolutely right about the zero deaths and it being a safe hobby. So the big question is why are they doing it? Just for another tax? I think They want trackers on everybody. GPS attached to everyone. Either by your cell phone or an rc plane sitting in the backseat of your car.
Nineteen Eighty-Four should be seen as a warning, not a guide.
Perfect. 😊
It's not a warning it's already here!!!!!
it was a warning, read Albert pikes letter a confederate general.
I'm not registering and I'm not flying my planes at the moment thank you Bruce I'm with you and I'm glad you mentioned the fact that this drone witch hunt is impacting on model plane flight also
Very good point about the cheap insurance for low risk activities.
We need 1 rule for model aircraft, COMMON F#@KING SENSE
And that is?
@@M-H433 dont fly your shit near people, must be hard right
AMEN BRUCE ! Very well said ! God bless you ! Also , I WILL NOT COMPLY !!!!
4:03 "not been one single death ever ... flying a multi-rotor drone" the legislation covers all RC model aircraft, not just 'multi-rotor drones'. There have been 2 deaths in the UK from hobbyist RC aircraft (around 20 years ago), so there is still a risk. Registering involves answering correctly some common-sense questions, so it's not all bad.
The problem isn't the registration; it's the creeping restrictions - which would still happen even without registration.
What about the stamp collector mentioned in the video who had a heart attack after finding a penny black.
I’m done with the AMA they don’t have my best interest in mind I’ll continue to fly in hayfields and on my own property they’ll have to pry my foamy from my cold dead hands.
Love that. Same. Come and get them. They’re right next to the ammo pile.
Tepee Tim You are not going to be able to fly your drone you will see 😎🦅🤙
Carlos Martinez I own 72 acres in a very remote mountain town no one can make me stop flying.
Spot on Bruce. I've spent thousands on drones since 2016 and will never register, even if I never fly again. These rules are Draconian and unwarranted. Keep fighting like Britain did after the French capitulated.
In Thailand they were also pushing people to register but at the end of the road the whole thing has just been staged with the complicity of insurances companies and government. #showusthebodies and #followthemoney
Maybe we all need to hire a lawyer or several lawyers and sue the FAA. It's the only legal idea I could come up with.
It comes down to that
Amazon has better lawyers than you can muster. They are the ones behind this.
@@jamespondy0 and Google ,UPS etc. We have more votes but will it be enough? we need to push back or they will take more. delivery drone are a pipe dream LOLz
Mike Moran - One guy did. His win was short lived and got overturned.
@@mattraymond2935 the delivery drone thing is a gimmick to sell to the FAA, and ignorant customers. Minus places like hospitals, where they have controlled areas to receive something like that.
And there's a protest going on at FAA headquarters on February 29th put on by UFDA crew.
It is amazing that nation that has second amendment needs to be told to resist oppressive government.
True are you, and this coming from a retired military member citizen of said country. *sighs* =_=
On Yah! Bruce, Just like you see it happening in the US.You give them 1 inch & they'll take the LOT!
Bruce,Your a GREAT guy!The world's best and smartest hobbyist.For me my R/C hobby is a small portion of my many interests.I love electronics,and mechanical devices.Also car audio technology.So,the concern for me is minimal.Who I do fly,I fly at a public park for and hour or to.Most time spent recharging my Li PO batteries.I recently visited my local hobby shop.The owner feels this new proposed rule will not come to fruitation.So maybe everything will turn out fine.But I will help you fight for our great hobby.
Love ya Bruce!!! Stay strong!!! Thanks for trying to help. #wethesheepeople
Hi Bruce
When I was a kid I build aircraft models with my father and flew them at our local airfield. That was the first step to a 30 years proud career in aviation, I retired late 2018 from a national airline.
I don't agree that registration kill the hobby but RI will kill for sure. Is RI that needs to be fought with all our forces.
Although I don't think that registration brings any safety, I didn't mind to register if it is free. Some countries have registration schemes that are on line and free, why the UK charges 9 pounds?
In my country registration of 250gr and above UAV is mandatory but the aviation authority doesn't have a scheme to do it. However, all drones with camera regardless of weight need to be registered with the Air Force. This registration is on line and free. But every flight has to have an authorization from the Air Force. Luckly where I usually fly the Air Force grants a 60 days authorization.
Armando Ferreira - well said Armando I started in the hobby the same way - Regards
Obviously, "drone control," like "gun control," is NOT about drones, but about control.
Hi Bruce, don't get disillusioned with the people that have registered, they have no backbone and are the sort of people that let the Gov. run their lives for them. These people need a crutch to live their lives.
The Hobby needs you to stand firm and fight this ridiculous law. You're doing a grand job. You have my support and the support of many....Regards, Pete
Everything that you have said is true. My experience of my peers is that they have registered because:- "It's not much and it was going to happen anyway". Even A senior offical of the BMFA told me that he "didn't know why I refused to register". "So you're going to ground all of your aircraft just because you refuse to register as a matter of principal?" "Well that's up to you but it seems a bit silly for the sake of £9".
Yet again words of wisdom from Bruce, I helped run my local model flying club. Our insurance was private from the BMFA with far better cover over many many years our premium never increased unlike car insurance. Stands fact how safe this hobby is !!!!! Keep it up Bruce thank you 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
DJI has even come out against the FAAs proposed Remote ID proposal as it is.
Although DJI was one of the companies who did push for them, seems a wee bit like calling the kettle black.😁
@@CrstnJdiKnight what DJI was pushing for is "NOTHING" like what the FAA Is pushing for. READ their letter. I have no problem with the PASSIVE no cost remote ID system that DJI was talking about.
Couldn't agree more. Il never register here in the UK. Great video!
THANK YOU BRUCE !!!!! Do not comply, ever. At least here in the U.S.A. its time to remind them that they are public servants not public officials. Damn, i'm so tired of the government shoving laws and rules down down my throat
Dude, rant on! Thanks for posting. I haven't registered, I'll be flying sub 250g through the summer to see where it goes. I build my own models and mostly fly on my own land.
I paid my AMA membership but I have not registered my drones nor will I. I build my own drones and I have 4 extra frames I can build up whenever.
What happens when AMA fields start disappearing? Besides as is you're going to be stuck flying at those fields with no chance for new ones to be built.
Jeremy Pierce means you paid for the very organization that stood by and did NOTHING to help the hobby and sold out to the FAA to get forced membership and FRIA flying only demand...we all thought they were working for the hobby, we see that was NOT the case....so you did not pay for one fraud , and yet paid for another.....
Bro, you're paying a membership for a company that gave in to the FAA for the right to monopolize the hobby for privilege and unjust regulation. The AMA does not care about Open Space recreational model aircraft aviation, they want you to fly at their private governed and regulated flight fields where the FAA has granted immunity.The AMA and FAA are partners and you are helping the FAA get what they want... Unjust Regulation of where and when you can fly your aircraft.
@@ZEAL_FPV The local flying field requires an AMA membership to fly there. Sometimes it's nice to fly with other people and not always alone.
Totally agree people shouldn’t register, sadly I think the hobby is doomed because big corporations want the airspace and companies like DJI want to be the only game in town when it comes to compliant models you can fly, but I’m not going to be complicit in my freedoms being taken away.
John Citizen Hey John, Mike from the US here. They took away your guns, they took away your knives. You are basically at the fascists mercy. May the Good God in heaven have mercy on you. We in the US are fighting the good fight to keep our freedoms. It is so sad to see how individual freedoms are attacked in the name of homogeny.
Kids have to be 18 to own a drone, yet from 16 you can learn to fly a real plane... Those who make the laws never had the plot in the first place. Xjet you got everything right!
Bruce sir thank you . You are in my prayers. Thank you for the information I live in the US and have not registered drones or planes an refuse to tuck tail drop my head and give away my hard earned money. We are taxed to death as is. Bless you brother Bruce keep fighting.
17:22 "I heard the other day from reasonably reliable sources that CAA in the UK are even considering the regulation of indoor flights"
*W* *T* *ACTUAL* *F* ?!?
licensetodrive the CAA have no authority over enclosed spaces, Bruce is beginning to get as bad as The Sun "reasonably reliable source" = his dog?
@@jibbajabba4597 Err you need to look at what the FAA in the USA are proposing over indoor flyers, they want the same level of regulation applied to them over Remote ID etc so it seems likely the CAA will follow suit if it goes ahead in the USA⚠️
So prepare yourself if you are an indoor flyer in the UK, you will most likely have to comply with very restrictive future regulations, even flying a small nano model aircraft in your own home⚠️
PD Tech wanting something and actually doing it are two different things, if the CAA were so eager to copy the FAA proposals, then why have they adopted the much better and sensible EASA regs instead? If anything its the FAA which is doing the copying since RID has been written into our law for nearly a year already.
@@jibbajabba4597 The internet is a great place to look back on comments just like yours and be able to say, 'I told you so!' 😁⚠️
I look forward to a future where we can fly model aircraft without unnecessary, restrictive regulations, where you can build your own models and fly them in your own property without fear of prosecution. BUT I fear we have a darker future, where any model aircraft sold will have to comply with a strict set of regulations, including Remote ID and don't be deluded and think the next raft of EASA regs coming into effect in July 2020 will be the last⚠️ That's just the beginning, the next wave, there will be more, you either jump on, register and accept every rule they conjure up and throw at you or you jump off, stand firm and just say NO MORE!
I've jumped off, happily flying my Mavic Mini without the hassle of having to register⚠️😁👍😎
PD Tech yes agreed and if we end up sharing a cell, you can say I told you so. BTW you do realise that after 1/7/20 you need to register if you want to fly that Mini outside right? It falls under A1 C1 class (model with camera).
I suspect what will happen is the same as the electric scooter, we will be regulated out of the air but nobody will enforce it and eventually a proposal will come to de-criminalise it, probably after Amazon have abandoned drone delivery as being impractical and expensive or after one of their drones has crashed into The Shard.
I have to register because my club requires it, if I ever leave that club then I'll sell up, it's boring flying by yourself after being in a club enviroment.
People like Bruce do not help in the slightest, they stir shit up among members in clubs and cause arguments, resentment etc. and while we are sitting in the corner arguing over semantics, the CAA sit on the other side laughing at us because thanks to people like Bruce they don't even need to do anything to create division, he does it for them. Maybe if Bruce put as much effort into rallying the troops and uniting the fight instead of belittling people from behind his keyboard we might have a fighting chance, until then we don't.
Well said, no common sense anymore. We are quickly losing fpv, the internet, our freedoms, etc.. It may be worse In the US but pretty sure others will follow :/ .
I know here in the US we currently use apps to let the FAA know when we're flying in uncontrolled airspace. They either tell you ya or nae through a text message. I remember when I was little....We used to fly right at our local airport. Since then the airport grew to a regional airport and all the fun stopped. In fact, they have controlled the airspace so much, that some people gave up the hobby.
I agree with what you had to say in this video. Really glad people like you are standing ground for the hobby we love and enjoy so much. I hope others follow. It's expensive enough getting into and maintaining this hobby, let alone being taxed by the filthy rich.
I was going on holiday when one of the Gatwick incidents occurred in 2018. We were stuck in the airport lounge for an hour and a half, with no information. When we eventually boarded, the pilot told us that reports of a drone flying nearby had been made. So I'm on both sides of the fence. My son asked me to give his drone to the local charity shop, and now we don't go out as often.
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Implementing a licence to fly creates work for a government department, this work needs to be paid for hence the licence fee. Its a way of legislating addition income for no reason.
Well said! The Hero we need! I licence my car and in return get to use the road networks and of course we need to make sure road users are safe and qualified. If I was told I shouldn't drive anywhere, I wouldn't licence or even have a car. If licencing drones granted me access to half the airspace (away from airports/cities) and supported my rights to do so, I would queue up to pay. Follow the analogy; if I'm driving safely and some random busybody told me I shouldn't, I could point at my registration and tell them to mind their own business. No point in getting a drone or licencing it if it doesn't grant me anything in return.
Thanks for the video Bruce. I wonder if later in the year the Police will allocate a small task force (2 nationwide would suffice) to visit flying sites (addresses and flying times available from BMFA) and perform spot checks. Mounting numbers of £1000 fines might drive us to register.
This is rant worthy. The founding fathers would be ashamed of this tyranny
Please explain what the founding fathers have to do with this ... He is referring to people who fought for freedom, not people who left Europe to start a new society.
@@frisovandevijver8893 They fought four our freedom .The American Revolutionary War, also known as the American War of Independence, was a war between Great Britain and its Thirteen Colonies in America which declared independence in July 4 1776 as the United States of America
@@mattraymond2935 thank you for the history class, but this is not at all what he is referring to.
The founding fathers wanted to be independent. I think the English where far from friendly and oppressive for sure, but we can not put a label of fascism on their heads since this was not invented yet. This only happened in 1915...
What he is talking about is freeing yourself from fascism and the right of freedom. The fathers wanted to be free from the English and in doing so eradicated almost all the Indians....great job !!!
@@frisovandevijver8893Tyranny and fascism are both dictatorships. Native Americans got a raw deal. what does that have to do with toy planes and helicopters?
@@mattraymond2935 don't know Matt, you brought up your founding fathers whilst they had nothing to do here. I love your understatement btw " a raw deal "
With remarks like this the founding fathers will not be the only one to turn in their graves.
I recently got me a 2.5" quad and I have an absolute blast with it! , almost as good as a 5" but I still love the 5, I was surprised how good the 2.5 actually flies! I love it! :D
Well said Bruce. Our freedom Is slowly being etched away and I don't just mean in this hobby, but In life In general but nobody can see It. I have been a member of the BMFA for a number of years now and I really wish they would grow a "pair". I have a number of sub 250g models that I fly. In fact they are all I have flown for months! And they are a lot of fun and also less intimidating to the ramblers or dog walkers that also share our fields etc. I have no intention of registering
I agree that a registration policy for model aircraft is an unnecessary burden for honest people.I was against it the first time it was rolled out.It's too bad that our RC flyers were bamboozled into registering for fear of reprisal. As it is now,we are writing our state representatives to further press our case for opposition.You are right,if no one registered in the first place,there would be no money to fund a useless government venture like this.A class action law suit would probably be the thing to do to get the agency's attention.I thank you again for the work you do here.It's a pleasure to share ideas freely on your channel.Many kind regards from the USA!
Guess we'll be the ones with "eyes on" when the zombies come.
Zombies already here.Look around....
Thank you for your WISE WORDS. Keep it up.
It's inspiring how passionate you are about the hobby- not even in your own country. Thanks Bruce.
I PROMISE I will fly my quads and planes/wings with laws or without! It’s a choice I make, better than going to the bars! This hobby gives me the excitement in my life that I need and love! No one is going to stop that! PERIOD
look at this from different angle......this is not about RC models or large aircraft.........., it's about Clearing and Selling low level airspace to the highest bidder ..........its all about the "new" delivery by drones idea........amazon etc don't want anyone to bring down their delivery drones carrying product that they will have to compensate for if it doesn't arrive..........its simply making it to hard for the current users, and they will eventually go away.........or they will have your number to call if you bring an expensive drone and its load,.......or maybe have a pizza fetish and net one.......
Wouldn't it be awesome if everyone would boycott these delivery services to the point it would be cost ineffective! It's sad though that the majority of the population wont be concerned with this infringement of our freedom but instead be all too excited for whatever slight convenience will be gained by receiving a package via drone.
@@bordersn73 Probably the same people that cry about drones bothering them with the sound, cameras, etc. They don't think about the restriction on hobbyists that mostly try to avoid being a nuisance is going to free up the space for the commercialization of that space. Then try getting Amazon to not fly near your house...if the government is going to ruin a hobby to benefit Amazon, they certainly won't protect you from Amazon ruining your peace and quiet.
Well said Bruce. No need for us all to be dictated to. Stuff the registration and carry on flying. A lot of people in the uk have not got the balls anymore. We have all gone soft and self centred.
I agree with all your comments Bruce. We all need to stand as one and fight for our freedom. I'll not be registering in Australia when our time comes. Fortunately I fly in remote locations, though it'll be hard to hide my hobby interest since I've purchased so much and registered many products over the past 50 years.
I'm an avid UAS scratch builder, line-of sight plane flyer and safe operator (I too follow the safety rules when I fly) BUT, I will not register, sign up for a membership or apply for licensing for my aircraft that the FAA regulates where and when I can fly; to hell with that.
I was just wondering if everyone refused to register? I assume the law would go away, right?
It's like that old saying... "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" except it is drones now instead of guns.
The law will stay but if nobody obeying it and no incident occur, such law will lose its credibility and necessity. Its existence will becomes irrelevant.
Will not comply!
Hopefully so. Or...they send the Police out to flying sites and start issuing £1000 fines. No such problem if you fly on your own on private land of course.
@@CharlieDeltaEchoVict maybe they will do that in the EU...but here in America, most cops don't even enforce their own laws, so I don't see (most of) them enforcing laws that don't concern them...
We need to see your papers!
Sorry I just flushed my paper.
I can save some next time if you would like to see my papers.
Gavin Correct answer 🤣
Gavin I will have to keep that response in mind when I’m prompted
Thank you, Bruce for your comments. Much to think about. I especially appreciate your pointing out the 'risk assessment' issue with regard to how the insurance industry has been willing to cover us. I agree that regulation of RC models is totally unnecessary. We do need to keep 'drones' out of the hands of irresponsible folks, but the RC community has proved itself entirely responsible. My take is that, for myself as a glider guider, if I am flying purely according to visual line of sight rules, no FPV, and no autonomous control of a model, then there is virtually no way that I could fly my RC model in a nefarious or publicly dangerous manner, as it would be virtually impossible to guide my glider into a target area--geesh, I'm not even that good at performing spot contest landings!!! I know that 'drone' flying does use FPV and autonomous guidance, but for myself that isn't an issue.
Bruce, to clarify a bit about the registration process in the UK. I am a lifelong fixed wing modeller and member of the BMFA and if I wish to continue flying LEGALLY I have to be registered. I have no interested in tiny sub 250g machines. Most clubs require that club members also be a member of the BMFA. The BMFA requires their members to be CAA registered The BMFA provides our insurance so no BMFA no no insurance and I will not fly without insurance. I take your point re drones not having caused injury or deaths but FW models have on several occasions.
More cyclists killed and injured than anyone by a Bixler....yet no training, insurance or registration to use bicycles ....get a life and I am afraid that it's reachers like you that put people off joining the BMFA
Gov. authorities don’t spent vehicle taxation on roads Bruce.
Not in the UK anyway and they will tell you that as they did me
In the US it varies. Sales tax no, but yearly licensing goes partly to roads.
In the UK you pay VED (vehicle excise duty) not road tax. You pay for the damage to the environment in general. This covers things like emissions, taking up space with a vehicle, damaging roads and such. Another example people like to give is fishing licenses. But again you re taking from the environment by either taking fish or at least distressing them.
I believe a responsibly used model has next to no impact on the environment. As such there is no justification for a fee.
Your very intelligent and can articulate your self very well. Legend in hobby. Take that free speech! Cheers mate..god bless not about safty whoops hit a fly other day. Broke frame. Fat fly🙄🙄
I live in Canada Bruce. I see this as a huge issue for us too as Transport Canada always takes a page from the FAA. We already have to have at least a basic license to fly anything over 250grams. Ridiculous. Keep up the good fight, and we shall do the same. Cheers
I agree with you 120% and I WILL NOT REGISTER MY DRONE for this same reason you are talking about.
Good work Bruce! I say register the birds as well, greatest threat to aviation we've ever had yet an excepted commercial risk from random autononmous feathered bombs, ask Sully. Register push bikes, E scooters and random golf balls....
Spot on bruce.but as you know,too many people out there with too much money on hand and no back bone.
Well said Bruce! I always thought registration was a fraud. I’ll always fly, I don’t need anyone’s permission 😬 keep fighting for us, we’re behind you!
Registrations free here in Ireland appatently but once you register your marked, no going back, when a fee is introduced they know where you are!!!!!!
Im with you bruce. Great words from a wise man. (Adam. Unregistered uk)
I'm not hugely exercised by the UK registration scheme thus far as it does not prevent me from flying where and how I have flown since I first got into the hobby well over half a century ago. The cost isn't a major issue for me because I recall the days when you were required to have a Radio Control Licence from the GPO to operate the radio gear. Back in the 1950s this cost £1 for 5 years - the modern equivalent of slightly over £5/year so the £9/year is broadly similar (I seem to recall the RC Licence went up to £5/year - the equivalent to £20/year now - before it was scrapped in the early '80s in the wake of the CB fiasco).
As for the defiance of the law thing, I'm not keen. In your comments you hark back to an era when, overwhelmingly, people did what the government required - cut down the railings round their houses for scrap metal for the war effort, accepted rationing, the works. Now we have a World filled with narcissists who don't accept democracy. See:-
www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/mar/02/narcissism-epidemic-self-obsession-attention-seeking-oversharing
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/12/181205133933.htm
(To add to this point I would mention that in 1973 when Heath took the UK into the EEC despite a majority against it there were nothing like the protests we currently have against Brexit despite an apparent majority in favour - such was the respect for the democratically elected government even if it was headed up by a total @r$€h0le).
So my position is to obey the law but to raise hell with my MP and anyone else who will listen if and when they impose unreasonable restrictions on safely conducted flying. Under the principle of “no taxation without representation” (and the implicit corollary - no representation without taxation) the fact that we are now paying a charge gives us a legitimate voice we didn't have before.
BTW - the competence test is a joke - any numpty could guess the answers well enough to pass.
ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO💥Thanks!!
Referring back to my comment about taking a test AKA “Achievement” mentioned in the BMFA magazine 🤬
I’m a UK citizen & a member of BMFA including insurance as you mentioned.
Apparently, that’s no longer good enough but I have NOT registered, nor do I have any intention of taking a test!
Even if I did, where & how would I go about it ?? 🙄
SO - what’s the penalty? How would it be enforced and by whom?
If I’m out flying responsibly, will paratroopers drop out of the sky and whisk me away? 🤣
I’D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR TAKE ON THIS & THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR COMMON SENSE! 👍🏼
In Romania, registration is 105 eur / piece, and a travel to capital. ONLY PERSONAL at the CAA base, not to other person, not by post, not on line.
I’m 16 and have one 5 inch racing drone and a tiny whoop I will never register and I can’t even if I wanted to. I built these myself and apparently it illegal for me to even fly these until I’m 18. I CAN DRIVE LEGALY BUT NOT FLY A 300 gram drone!!!!
lol 👍
But you also can't be prosecuted as an adult. Fly safe and carry on!
Hi Bruce Great video and RANT ! I remember back in the 70s we had to get AMA insurance to fly at the local rc Airport and we were trained by a experience pilot. We had rules that we never flow over people and property. We have lost our way with these ARF and Drones. We don't need to get a pilot to teach them all the right way to fly there models, people can just charge the battery and fly and they are the ones that are needed to learn how and where to fly. Thanks again for the video.
JohnnyD RC right, and I do fly ON MY 200 acre farm! Why would I go pay AMA a membership and so on to fly in a tight circle for 3 minutes with 50 other old farts. Haahhh? Well let me inform you I did do this a few years back. I joined my local AMA and TRIED to fly at their special little fields and the hatred I received from most these people was remarkable to say the least. I only actually was able to fly 3 times in a year because of the way I was treated at most these fields. Most the time I’d just pack up my gear and go to my land and fly without the “as Bruce puts it fascist behavior “ I received from Them AMA asses.
Sorry that’s just how I feel and I can assure most others do as well that are FPV Fixwing pilots that fly modern Planes with Autopilot systems and fpv. Safely and responsibly on there (OWN property.) Regardless what anyone says AMA is all for this remote Id crap and all the other laws that will soon follow. What most don’t no is this ID stuff is only the tip of the sword. AMA regardless of them saying they aren’t going to benefit is a straight out bunch of bull. These laws will push most who stay in the hobby to there fields and paying there dues. City dwellers will be impacted the most because unless they join AMA where they going to fly? At AMA certified fields of course. So guess that’s a whole lot of revenue for old AMA now isn’t it? I understand they have there following but it’s not for me. Sorry flying in a tight circle bores the piss out of me. I prefer proximity flying and using the whole 300+ acres I’m fortunate enough to have to fly over. Think if you are going to blame anyone which is what it sounds like you are doing , blame the idiots flying 800mm Planes in local parks full of people and houses right next to the ball fields they are flying over. I see on these FB groups them flying 100mph directly over houses and people and they post this shit for likes and subscribes like fools. Blame them🤷♂️👍
Nothing is wrong with it, I just think that new people are coming to this Hobby and way back when it was harder to get started back then and so we had to learn how to fly by a pilot and now you can go into your yard and fly. Yet there is nothing stopping anyone from learning how to fly and that is why people fly higher than 400 feet.
JohnnyD RC they fly higher simply because they can. Even if a pilot trained them you honestly think most people this day and age are going to follow rules. Lol. Unfortunately I don’t think most do. I try to most the time but like I said I fly our farm and there isn’t Any traffic in that area unless I fly at 30,000ft agL and nothing to get damaged or hurt.
Not try to be an ass just irritates the shit out of me that some people are so stupid as to even post the shit they post. IMHO social media is the main tool that’s bringing this hobby down just because it makes it so easy for agencies to see what’s happening. LR flying and above 400agl have been going in for a long long time without incident. It was when this hobby became popular and easily accessed and Facebook and RUclips people figured out they can make money off likes and subscribes.
In my honest opinion, the ONLY reason anyone should have model aircraft insurance is IF the operator in question is independent, flies large aircraft or (small fast aircraft) that can damage property and is prone to crashing on a regular basis; as long as you're well trained and fly safely*... there's no need for model aircraft insurance. (* Flight Safety can be taught and the lessons passed from one enthusiast to another or learned from online video's from recognized and responsible model aviation hobbyist)
As far as ARF, RTF and Drone's go... not everyone has the budget to buy 500+ dollar's worth of hobby equipment and model aircraft kit to get in the air to have fun. Hence the reason model aviation companies started to cater to those who couldn't afford a once expensive hobby, consumers can now enjoy the experience of flight without breaking the bank. Also skilled model aviation hobbyist are hard to find to help train the new hobbyist, hence computer simulators to help train them on how to fly without breaking a real model aircraft. An RC Flight Simulator (for a computer) probably didn't exist in the 70's, so new hobbyist had no other choice but to learn the hard way; by Trial and Error... which was extremely expensive.
Flying a Drone, is relatively easy... you don't need a runway and you don't need a lot of space; hence it's popularity. However, because the learning curve is so shallow; it takes as little as 5-7 days to fly with some level of confidence. After that people who learned to control their Drone's misused them to spy on private property (among other illegal acts and intents). The REAL problem for Drone operators, is the fact that because they're so easy to fly without any outside support or training, the operators aren't aware of the flight safety rules and regulations most model aircraft hobbyist have learned from other hobbyists while learning to fly. Which is why the FAA is pushing to enforce new laws and regulations that would prevent such attempts next to impossible with licensing and registration of Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS). Unfortunately because the FAA is misinformed, they're combining (and confusing) recreational model hobbyist plane's along with Drone's.
Again, the problem isn't the recreation model hobbyist planes; it's the Drone Operators who don't know the Rules of Flight Safety. The FAA only recognizes the Whole Aviation Hobby, which is wrong on SO MANY levels; and it's up to thee model aircraft hobbyist's to teach them the difference instead of having hobbyist blindly following the new rules and paying for the mistakes of the few who made this problem and making up for their mistakes with money from the innocent model aircraft hobby community.
I hope this helps you understand what's actually happening and why the model aircraft community is worried the RC Plane industry might go extinct.
Hi. I agree with you in full. This should not be forced to force us. This should be our choice. I have a registered drone, a large platform for cameras for several years but because I wanted it myself. They were entered in the register, official numbers were given, I even have insurance for it but it was my choice. I did it before this whole scandal broke out. And that's how it should be, our choice and not fascist methods under the guise of security. Govern yourself. We choose you and you should listen to us, voters and not lobbying financiers and idiots behind the desk who even did not hold the soldering iron.
It is all about selling the 0-400ft airspace to the commercial delivery drone operators like Google, Amazon, DHL etc.
#ShowMeTheBodies
Mr Gauss *lifts shirt*
Again....ive not registered with the FAA and I'm not going to. I wont have anything to do with this Remote ID crap. I have elders that have flown rc's SAFELY AND RESPONSIBLY for decades. I have flown SAFELY AND RESPONSIBLY for near a decade. I have a 6 year old daughter that has expressed an interest in flying with me. I want her to be able to fly if she continues to show an interest. The FAA wont get any money from me. Bruce....ive been looking at sub 250 gram aircraft. I know you built a very successful sub 250 gram model a while back. Id be very excited to see what kind of sub 250 gram models you come up with. In the meantime, my bigger models are either gonna get sold or sit on the shelf.
They'll come for your sub 250's next
@@bren42069 lol...aren't you just the pessimistic one in the group!!! If the FAA comes for the 250 gram aircraft, then so be it. I'll start driving rc ground vehicles or take up knitting. I'm not giving the FAA any money!!!
They're making a mockery of us. This is the thin edge of the wedge. Just like it was "3 weeks to flatten the curve" it's just "£9 to register".
Sending my condolences to the stamp collector😂
Funny all this was around for 50 years and nothing was said. Once a camera was strapped to them they suddenly want to track those who have the ability to survail from the air at low altitudes. What are they afraid of us seeing?
Well said Sir.
Great video Bruce, and was your last one too! Greetings from Cyprus. I have little respect for the FAA in the US because they preach safety, and yet when Boeing 737's were dropping out of the sky and killing people (Rudder hydraulic issue), the aircraft was not grounded and aircraft continued to crash. In Europe when Concorde crashed, the whole Concorde fleet was grounded by the European regulators. For me this is all about big business demands, and nothing to do with safety! Cheers mate!
I registered here in the US when they came out with the rules, got my HAM licence just for the hobby . only been questioned once. I pulled out a fistful of paper and the officers didn't know what to do so left me alone.I was flying FPV in a closed for the winter National Forest camp ground. Legally I was in the wrong and I get your point but having a fist full of papers saved my butt
Do i have to register my swearing parrot? He doesn't fly very high but i lose line of site sometimes.
They wont get a 1p never mind £9 off me. I think in June its ANYTHING with an fpv camera. They just want money off you. its already worse than most people know.
The non flying public overwhelmingly support the registration scheme. You’re not just arguing against the state, you’re arguing against most of the population too.
Yes, they're just sheeple, they will go along with whatever.
@@danskifpv 👍just like the covid laws
Hi Bruce- it has started a big model air show at Head corn air field in Kent UK will not take place this year, (thin edge of the wedge)
It doesn't matter if there is proof or not of risk, they have already decided they are moving forward with this and it's going to happen. There may be some differences when it is actually rolled out but the days of just being able to go and fly anywhere anytime is coming to an end. There are no bodies to show, but that's irreverent and they can lie all they want, it may be one way in NZ but here in the states things are changing and just saying "Im not registering" is fine for now, but that will change.