I'm 46 years old and I never even played football but I've been in about five car accidents and a lot of fights when I was a kid and now I have seizures at the age of 46 years old they started when I was 40. And it's because of the concussions that I suffered as a child. Concussions are very very very very serious I can't stress that enough I'm going through it right now God bless this guy
we need more people like yourself to share with these kids today. i myself have had multiple playing football. im 35 and starting to have memory issues. we need more awareness from older guys like us. stay strong man.
NOWINSKI is right... there has to be placed some sort of investigation on people in thr NFL under Goodell and people at Amazon under Besos... both have heavily promoted and for obvious reasons Thursday nite football... and it is necessary to check if they applied pressure to the teams to skirt around and make sure their marquee players are there for exposure.
This is a great point. Follow the chain of communication, follow the money invested in marketing weeks prior, and seriously investigate ownership’s role in day-to-day ops. I’d give Brian Flores a call. I suspect he has some insight…
No one really remembers, but, Sidney Crosby is THE PERFECT EXAMPLE for this. Got hit in the head on Jan 1, 2011, played 4 DAYS LATER, got hit in head again, wobbled off the ice, did not play again that season, didn't come back til Nov 25th 2011, played 8 games, started having symptoms again, didn't play again til March 25th, 2012. This is a man who played a playoff series with a broken foot, only missed a couple games with a broken jaw, so his toughness is without question. BUT, HE was smart enough, and the people around him was smart enough to say, hey, you HAVE to protect your brain. And that was 11 years ago. And your telling me the NFL hasn't gotten to that point yet? Come on!!!
Tua was checked each day last week for concussion symptoms and signs but if it was just a back injury why would they be checking him each day for a concussion wouldn’t they be checking him each day for a back injury.
Dr. Nowinski, 6:40 time stamp; "This was a cultural issue, Any of those coaches or owners of the Dolphins should have been able to diagnose with their own eyes Tua's concussion. The fact that they didn't step in and err on the side of caution makes them complicit in the whole thing. Yes a doctor can make a mistake every once in a while but the whole point is the rest of us are here to help them. This was a concussion that happened in front of 20 million people and everybody saw the video live ."
Problem is...Tua is chasing a big contract ...knows team has never been sold on him....and they are 3-0....Player should have zero say in this type of situation BUT....its the NFL
@@Soulseeologia has nothing to do with greed you dummy 😒 most nfl players tend to do w.e they can to get back on the field cz they play a warrior sport. To say greed is what motivates them just shows how little you know about sports and athletes.
@@zbassillini kinda hard to be held responsible if you are not of sound mind. Besides what player doesn't lie about an injury to get back on the field?
Tua just starting to realize his potential and now it could very well be over. IMO he should not have been in that game. I had some bad concussions in high school and college and they are serious business. I was pretty well cared for thankfully especially at the time (50 years ago) when the common term for a concussion was "getting your bell rung". With what we know now about CTE etc., no excuses for what happened last night. I wish him the best for no further injury and limited long term consequences from his serious injury.
without trying to insult your football acumen, check out the hits Jack Tatum did as a defensive player for the Raiders back in the day. The most vicious player ever
The fencing response is an unnatural position of the arms following a concussion. Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) is a progressive brain condition that's thought to be caused by repeated blows to the head and repeated episodes of concussion.
Even in car wrecks er doctors want to know how much intrusion there was to the vehicle to give better treatment. If they didn't watch the video and see that he clearly reached for his head, shook his head, ect. Then they should be sued for negligence.
They are required to be available on site. They watch the games live. The onsite independent neurologist is who (allegedly) evaluated & cleared him at halftime on Sunday.
That was such BS, it was clear to anyone with eyes in their face and a brain in their head that Tua was SEVERELY concussed last Sunday, the fact that he was allowed to play on Thursday is nothing less than criminal negligence
the chiefs did the same thing with mahomes after he was concussed in the playoffs against the browns only a couple days later they cleared him to play the next week when theres no way he recovered that fast. its all about money and winning in the nfl they don't care about player safety
Chris should be employed by NFL to write the concussion protocol. If the NFL is serious about protecting players, there can be no loopholes, no individual team standards, strict recovery times before a player can return and serious consequences including criminal negligence when the protocols are skirted.
The doctor gets punked by the head coach...then the "independent" concussion doctor is punked by his employer, the NFL..this isn't an easy problem to solve
@@paulmd7747 that’s BS Paul. You are ASSUMING he lied which is completely unfair. He IS NOT a doctor, therefore he CANNOT make medical decisions. Those decisions and medical analysis are made by medical doctors, NOT coaches. He was told what the problems/injuries were BY the doctor, therefore he didn’t lie. If the doctors made an incorrect evaluation, that’s on them, the medical experts, NOT the coach! All these internet Monday morning expert NON-doctors need to hush!
It's crazy cz I had no idea that was the chris nowinski from wwf till I saw him on tmz and heard him mention his past issues. I always remember rumor was he had neck issues which took him out of wrestling
I obviously don’t know all the ins & outs of the situation. But one thought that has been nagging me is, was it possible Tua was “forced” or “pressured “ to go back in the game Sunday? Or even play on Thursday night?
It's also equally possible that Tua felt pressure from all the criticism... which has been going on for years. He knew going in that he was playing for his career this year. And many former players have spoken about the multiple ways they get around the existing protocol.
The entire culture of the sport puts pressure on players to play when they shouldn't. It's not a bug but a feature of the game and it's a huge problem. If a player is injured a lot and has to sit a lot, he as a "product" is called into question by the fans, by the media, by the organization. The players aren't stupid. They know. Something has to change.
the NFL claiming they care about player safety is an absolute joke. Anyone who watched the game on sunday vs the bills knows Tua had a concussion there. For the team to lie and say it was a "back injury" is laughable. You don't get visual impairment and fall down from back injuries after hitting your head. evidently there needs to be someone who overseas all nfl njuries where a player leaves the field. a concussion czar if you will, someone to be accountable and say that player cant return to the same game nor have any football activity for 10 days. it seems like someone is going to have to die on the field before this stops
Tua was obviously concussed against Buffalo. They put him back in the game anyway. The NFL should set aside the result of that game and suspend Miami medical, management, and coaches for the rest of the season.
Sad to say we are at a tipping point..where physicians are middle management..not primary decision makers..if someone above in corporate and or insurer mode influences a situation such as a concussed pro football player..no self respecting neurologist discharges a player with Tua’s on field behavior.
When I was 32 I was playing pickup basketball, while back pedaling on defense someone threw a full court pass which I had a beat on, so I lept to intercept it. My teammate had the same idea though he didn't jump, and he was 50 pounds bigger so he won the battle of the mass, in air, he must have taken my legs out from me and my head hit the court crazy hard... it's a testament to the strength of the human skull because if I hit it any harder it would have cracked like an egg, I shudder when I think back on it. I instantly had a massive headache... definitely concussed. Ever since then, I get episodic migraines which prior to abortive medications were absolutely debilitating... they would make me vomit and I'm not embarrassed to admit that I often cried from the inescapable pain that lasted for 12-20 hours. This was just one concussion, so they are really fucking serious. I hope Tua's career isn't over, but even more important, I hope his life isn't altered in ways that he will regret. Thoughts are with him.
the evidence for diagnosing a concussion is literally to watch the impact that caused the damage. So yeah he was able to make a diagnosis and would probably suggest MRIs and monitoring for the development of visible damage.
I’ve been playing or watching football for 40 years and I’ve never seen any player shake their head and stumble from a back injury or any other injury than a concussion
We all know it was a head injury the medical staff with Miami were just blowing smoke up everyones backside because that’s standard operating procedure it’s how they skate around the real issue
The game is in reality people trying to cripple and concuss each other.All fans are part of the problem.The greedy owners could care less what happens to the meat running around on the field.
If the NFL has learn anything from the past years on CTE, it should be obvious to change the rules on players that suffer continuous hits on the head (linesman), WR, QB, CB and limit them to a maximum number of consecutive games played and enforce a recovery period (2 weeks or whatever is required). Something very important to bear in mind, is that fans will turn on TVs and attend the games to see their favorite jersey winning the game, doesn't matter who is playing or how spectacular his team is playing, they want to see a win a championship, so increase rosters to 120 or 180, they have enough player's market, reduce salaries and still make tons of money.
The game can definitely be evolved so there is less devastating physical contact..the sheernumber of injury status reports..attrition of player participation thru a 17 game season..increasingly NFL does not showcase the best players vs the best on opposing teams. It is about who is left to contend. Just the way players creatively celebrate winning moments..shows the power of improvisation and the reward for playing to winning outcomes. There are such positives to NFL games each season. It doesn’t need to be a house of cards..where devastating hits preclude otherwise sophisticated and well thought out play calls.
Now we get to see all of the head safety commercials from the NFL and how they care. The NFL spends 100 million dollars to tell everyone they spent 10 million on players safety.
mcdaniel saying its just a concussion is disgusting comment. by his own statement means he wouldnt care if tua went back in as he thinks concussion not serious
One small « big » step: limit Thursday night games to 15 per season and every team plays once with their bye week the week before the Thursday night game. Thé NFL only sacrifices a few games in the name of safety. It won’t solve the problem but maintains the historical minimum of a week between games.
So 2 teams won't play a Thursday night game? That will be a huge issue in itself.. I agree though, it's just too fast of a turn around & I'd say just cut the damn game out all together!
The problem is very simple. Every single person in the “process” is HIGHLY financially motivated to keep the concussed player on the field. That is the paradox at the core of this whole thing that has to be fixed before anything can change.
Traumatic brain injury never heal while you may look good physically and be able to function the symptoms linger or may not show for years. I suffered one 17 years ago while being rear ended at a dead stop and the vehicle that struck me was traveling 70 mph
Blah blah blah, ....this is such overhyped sensationalistic bullsh!t! Do they not realize that these players are aware of and are willing to take the risks to play the game they love, ...for a chance to make amounts of money that provide multi-generational wealth?! ....but even more importantly, do they not realize THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL SPORTS WHERE THE ENTIRE POINT IS TO KNOCK OUT YOUR OPPONENT?! Boxing, UFC, Kick Boxing, etc etc etc. This is so much ridiculous overblown horsesh!t! This is such an unrealistic, disproportionate amount of outrage! Just plain stupid!
Definitely scary. I thought it was more spinal, but the way his hands were did not look good. To add, I didn't see the Bills game and they should be following protocol
concussions are happening in nascar and they are taking the concussions seriously, driver kurt busch got a concussion at pocono raceway in july and hasn't raced since, and this past weekend driver alex bowman announced he was having concussion symptoms and missed this weekend's race at talladega superspeedway so why can't they in the nfl it's ridiculous
The narrative in regards to the Tua concussion incidents has clearly overlooked the real issue. The question no one is asking and deserves to be answered is whether Tua is physically fit to play football. His injury history is an indicator of this and he’s always at risk and his probability of injury is very high on any play. Tua’s initial concussion should have set off alarm bells because it wasn’t a result of being driven into the tuff by a player or group of players whereby he had 260 to 900+ lbs of weight burying his head or back into the turf. He stumbled backwards and hit his head off the ground. Who would expect a player at any age or at any level of the game getting a concussion on that play? Eric Lindros is a perfect example of someone playing at the highest level in his sport who was very prone to concussions/ injuries. 😢
Blah blah blah, ....this is such overhyped sensationalistic bullsh!t! Do they not realize that these players are aware of and are willing to take the risks to play the game they love, ...for a chance to make amounts of money that provide multi-generational wealth?! ....but even more importantly, do they not realize THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL SPORTS WHERE THE ENTIRE POINT IS TO KNOCK OUT YOUR OPPONENT?! Boxing, UFC, Kick Boxing, etc etc etc. This is so much ridiculous overblown horsesh!t! This is such an unrealistic, disproportionate amount of outrage! Just plain stupid! There are 1000 boxing and UFC knock out compilations on YT, they sieze up like Tua ALL THE TIME! No one is talking about ENDING boxing or UFC or kick boxing. The media is taking this way too far! END FOOTBALL?! GTFOH! These dipsh!ts WONT HAVE A JOB! Once they start making ridiculous statements like "End Football, they need to STFU!
It is obvious to every average NFL fan who saw the first hit that he had some concussion type event . The average fan knew he should not have been allowed to continue to play in the Buffalo event . When the thursday game event happened the average fan knew that this should not have happened . Obviously the protocol that the players and NFL has does not work . Every average fan knows this .
People are using the Video of the Mahomet ankle injury to say it's his ankle, but in those incidents similar the coaches refused to let them play regardless. That should have occured.
So why didn't tua get a concussion in the 2nd half of the game? If he had a concussion in that game and your worried about 4 days later of him getting another concussion. Why didn't he get one in the 2nd half? Why didn't he show any signs of an concussion after the game, the following three days?
Yes, what McDaniel said was strange but I'm pretty sure he said.....glad he didn't break his neck!!! Come on people, it's subjective but he shouldn't have played, I agree on that. McDaniel is a smart, nice, and great guy. Leave him alone
This is his moment to show leadership. He’s already making steps in the wrong direction, he better change his tune and outlook pronto, this will be a character defining moment that will follow him the duration of his career
Just listen to Dale Earnhardt Jr. tell his story on concussions. Probably the worst single case of concussions I've ever heard. Well worth listening to his story. It ultimately caused him to retire from Nascar.
Maybe we need to expand team rosters to 106 players and limit play to no more than once every two weeks. We can't trust the players to admit to head injuries. We certainly cannot trust the coaches, trainers, team physicians or the owners. Clearly we cannot trust the NFL leadership and their so-called independent medical professionals. Limit players' exposure to all injuries by playing every other game. Spread the risk out among an additional 1700 college players willing to play in the NFL no matter what.
Why the outrage?!?!??!! The NFL does not care about injuries. Not do fan, gamblers, etc. As long as people cheer for these hits, gamble on the games, etc, THEY do not have the right to be outraged.
NFL should suspend everyone involved for a year including Tua. Send a message to the entire League if you allow a concussed player in the game you will be gone for a year first offense , 5 years the second time and lifetime ban for a 3rd offense.
I get everything he's saying. And he's spot on. Except the part of getting rid of the game. Educate pple so they have that "choice". Don't try to be a dictator. As bad as it can be. There are way more players that have been fine, than ones were not. If that's the case. Let's get rid of boxing. Bc that's even worse. Let's all sit in bubbles.
@@1who4me it's a huge problem in rugby too. They are where the nfl was 10 years ago in their head trauma culture. The worst concussion I ever had was from playing rugby. I love contact sports but if I could have a chat with my 13 year old self, I would advise against it.
@@adamdunbar8260 It depends. I've seen a a lot. And have also had family members laying on the ground from injiry like that. They were fine after playing again. The prob is the way they handled this. Not the game itself. And not the chances of the I jury happening in the game. The comment was about getting rid of the game.
@@1who4me CTE is a long term condition. Almost impossible to know that. It's also a lot more nuanced than just getting concussions. There is genetic components also.
The players aren’t Drs but they know the risk. Most of them wouldn’t turn down the check for any alleged repercussions. I’d take the risk for 230 million guaranteed dollars but I’m poor. Drs are not poor so to them life is always worth more than the risk. Ask someone that is 35 working at the grocery store what they would do for $100 mill.
Recruit kids to put on a costume? How about all the positive things football can teach kids to improve their life. Yes their are risks involved. Praying for Tua he never should have played Thursday.
I’ve had this theory that the NFL (and all sport media to be honest) loves it when a team with a market like Miami is successful. Even when The Dolphins were terrible, there always was this effort to constantly hype them up, because the city of Miami has so many foreigners who are at or just right above the poverty line, and therefore primed to have their kids recruited to play football as “a way out”. Very similar to the way the military recruits.
Smart booking. The man went to Harvard, he was a good looking, young football player from Harvard, what fat, toothless wrasslin fan in the crowd wouldn't be jealous of Nowinski. Add in his natural speaking skills, and give him a hot women at his side and WWE could have had a main event player in Nowinski. Shame how his athletic career ended and hope he continues to live a full life. Despite numerous concussions in football and wrestling, sometimes multiple concussions in a week, Chris always says he's lucky he isn't worse off.
When you have 100's of millions of $'s at stake, I can easily believe Tua would lie about injury/symptoms. The dude is literally playing for a multi-hundred million $ contract. I'd downplay my symptoms too. It would be generational wealth for my family. I don't believe it is solely the NFL pushing Tua onto the field for ratings (although that definitely played a part too), it is a combination of poor decision making by the player, the Dr's, the NFL.
anyone that gets knocked out locks up.......we see this all the time. we cant make the game any softer....The game is already 99 percent penalties and qbs can barely be touched.......
The problem isn't concussions, every contact sport has concussions. The problem is concussion treatment. Permanent damage comes from multiple concussions without enough time in between for the brain tissue to heal. Neurologists recommend 3 to 4 weeks.
I want to ku med center trying to get help for my Tbi they said that’s main people thay take care of is Kansas chiefs and they are there to get people in the game how do we move forward if the main places that treat is against declaring someone who has a Tbi not to have it because they want to get them back to work
How many fringe players we can't remember the names of who aren't the franchise QB have experienced this... too many to count I would imagine. I love football, but the NFL is like all other billionaire run companies... too greedy for their own good.
If you think that the NFL really cares about players health and safety, then I've got beach front property in Arizona for you. Ask yourself this. If players health and safety was a priority, then why do they have players play on a Thursday after a Sunday game?
Well if his brain can fully heal before the end of the season, than yes he can come back and play. It's not about the total number of concussions that occur over an interval of time, but rather the rapid succession in which they occur. Some neurologists/neurotrauma specialists have been making videos about this situation, they are very insightful and offer more value than these talk show host type of guys.
Ha! An "NFL not being good citizens..."(5:40)...Welcome to a world run by corporate entities who care first and foremost about profit, and seemingly, sometimes nothing more than profit. Its the world we live in, the world we demand. People need to look in the mirror.
I understand they could have just said take a break no playing this Thursday, but he was cleared he felt good apparently, and no one can predict he would get slammed down again like that. If your worried about him in particular he should never play again, because every game it's a risk. This is a voluntary sport and they know what they are getting into. As far as we know he did not have a concussion on Sunday. Medically we have been told that. Are we saying the Doctor's are lying? If you have systems in place but don't believe them, what's the point? Act like the NFL is a predator and forces kids to want to be nfl players, give me a break.
The only way to make everything safe is to not play the game at all. We can cry all day over concussion theater but unless you're ending the game, you're not going to end concussions. That said, the Dolphins organization should have stepped in and saved Tua from himself last week against Buffalo. They didnt, and now every thing is exacerbated, to include everyones concern, anger, questions and drama.
Thank you! Dolphins messed up…..but I have been watching football for 35 years. Nothing u can do to make football safe. Leave it alone. Players know the risk. If you don’t like it DON’T WATCH!
Tua probably followed the team doctors advice. Under normal circumstances he would have been kept in the hospital for testing and observation. I believe no doctor would have allowed him to fly home. Unfortunately the out of town doctors probably had to defer to Dolphins doctors. Hopefully they had the team and player sign a waiver absolving them of any responsibility in case Tua’s situation is really bad
He was ALREADY injured and they played him 4 days later anyway knowing the chances are wAY WORSE for another one and made up some nonsense about a "back injury"
I understand this Dr. was against Tua playing, but where was this energy from the rest of the media before the game, to blame the coach that has been a NFL coach for 4 games is ridiculous.
Blah blah blah, ....this is such overhyped sensationalistic bullsh!t! Do they not realize that these players are aware of and are willing to take the risks to play the game they love, ...for a chance to make amounts of money that provide multi-generational wealth?! ....but even more importantly, do they not realize THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL SPORTS WHERE THE ENTIRE POINT IS TO KNOCK OUT YOUR OPPONENT?! Boxing, UFC, Kick Boxing, etc etc etc. This is so much ridiculous overblown horsesh!t! This is such an unrealistic, disproportionate amount of outrage! Just plain stupid! There are 1000 boxing and UFC knock out compilations on YT, they sieze up like Tua ALL THE TIME! No one is talking about ENDING boxing or UFC or kick boxing. The media is taking this way too far! END FOOTBALL?! GTFOH! These dipsh!ts WONT HAVE A JOB! Once they start making ridiculous statements like "End Football, they need to STFU!
I'm 46 years old and I never even played football but I've been in about five car accidents and a lot of fights when I was a kid and now I have seizures at the age of 46 years old they started when I was 40. And it's because of the concussions that I suffered as a child. Concussions are very very very very serious I can't stress that enough I'm going through it right now God bless this guy
My man, stop driving. You’re a menace on the streets.
we need more people like yourself to share with these kids today. i myself have had multiple playing football. im 35 and starting to have memory issues. we need more awareness from older guys like us.
stay strong man.
NOWINSKI is right... there has to be placed some sort of investigation on people in thr NFL under Goodell and people at Amazon under Besos... both have heavily promoted and for obvious reasons Thursday nite football... and it is necessary to check if they applied pressure to the teams to skirt around and make sure their marquee players are there for exposure.
This is a great point. Follow the chain of communication, follow the money invested in marketing weeks prior, and seriously investigate ownership’s role in day-to-day ops.
I’d give Brian Flores a call. I suspect he has some insight…
@@alexandermoss1302 They put duct tape on Brian.
Nowinski use to be a pro wrestler. He doesn't understand football it's not fake like wrestling
@@my2cents809 🤣 do you think wrestling is real
@@squirrel4421 nowhere did he say or imply that, and you know it.
No one really remembers, but, Sidney Crosby is THE PERFECT EXAMPLE for this. Got hit in the head on Jan 1, 2011, played 4 DAYS LATER, got hit in head again, wobbled off the ice, did not play again that season, didn't come back til Nov 25th 2011, played 8 games, started having symptoms again, didn't play again til March 25th, 2012. This is a man who played a playoff series with a broken foot, only missed a couple games with a broken jaw, so his toughness is without question. BUT, HE was smart enough, and the people around him was smart enough to say, hey, you HAVE to protect your brain. And that was 11 years ago. And your telling me the NFL hasn't gotten to that point yet? Come on!!!
I suffered from 2nd impact syndrome and it took me over a year to recover. The worst year of my life.
Great advocacy with Dr. Nowinski
Tua was checked each day last week for concussion symptoms and signs but if it was just a back injury why would they be checking him each day for a concussion wouldn’t they be checking him each day for a back injury.
You don't check for what you don't want to find out.
Because it was clear concussion symptoms..
Because it wasn't a back injury
The back, spine, neck and brain are all interconnected though. I'm not a doctor, but something clearly neurological happened and is happening to Tua.
Fuc …another distraction
THIS is the man I've been waiting to hear from
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Dr. Nowinski, 6:40 time stamp;
"This was a cultural issue, Any of those coaches or owners of the Dolphins should have been able to diagnose with their own eyes Tua's concussion. The fact that they didn't step in and err on the side of caution makes them complicit in the whole thing. Yes a doctor can make a mistake every once in a while but the whole point is the rest of us are here to help them. This was a concussion that happened in front of 20 million people and everybody saw the video live ."
Problem is...Tua is chasing a big contract ...knows team has never been sold on him....and they are 3-0....Player should have zero say in this type of situation BUT....its the NFL
Behind every situation like this you will find greed. I knew it!
@@Soulseeologia has nothing to do with greed you dummy 😒 most nfl players tend to do w.e they can to get back on the field cz they play a warrior sport. To say greed is what motivates them just shows how little you know about sports and athletes.
He's done. I wouldn't resign him. He's the next RG3 at this point
When does a large portion of responsibility actually fall on the player? Lying and getting past known protocols, gaming the system, these are adults.
@@zbassillini kinda hard to be held responsible if you are not of sound mind. Besides what player doesn't lie about an injury to get back on the field?
Tua just starting to realize his potential and now it could very well be over. IMO he should not have been in that game. I had some bad concussions in high school and college and they are serious business. I was pretty well cared for thankfully especially at the time (50 years ago) when the common term for a concussion was "getting your bell rung". With what we know now about CTE etc., no excuses for what happened last night. I wish him the best for no further injury and limited long term consequences from his serious injury.
His arm was weak. He wasn't going to keep his job for long.
@@kifley19 Probably true. But not a reason to kill him.
@@kifley19 Way to deflect from what’s actually important
noone should play within 10 days of a concussion and he clearly had one last sunday
I been watching football for a long time I've never seen anyone react like that to a hit/tackle. Scary.
Must not be that long of a time
Watch the UFC. Fighters that get KO'd do this (their toes point rigidly too)
bruh stfu why yall always got something to say!!!!!
Look up Joe "Turkey" Jones hit on Terry Bradshaw in the 70s. There have been a lot worse hits on QBs
without trying to insult your football acumen, check out the hits Jack Tatum did as a defensive player for the Raiders back in the day. The most vicious player ever
Sorry that 1st caller was mistaken
That fencing reaction Tua had was textbook CTE response
It’s not a CTE response but a brain trauma response. CTE happens later on.
The fencing response is an unnatural position of the arms following a concussion.
Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) is a progressive brain condition that's thought to be caused by repeated blows to the head and repeated episodes of concussion.
Even in car wrecks er doctors want to know how much intrusion there was to the vehicle to give better treatment. If they didn't watch the video and see that he clearly reached for his head, shook his head, ect. Then they should be sued for negligence.
They are required to be available on site. They watch the games live. The onsite independent neurologist is who (allegedly) evaluated & cleared him at halftime on Sunday.
The real sad part is all of the opportunities many people had to stop this.
So true. So much negligence shown at every level.
That was such BS, it was clear to anyone with eyes in their face and a brain in their head that Tua was SEVERELY concussed last Sunday, the fact that he was allowed to play on Thursday is nothing less than criminal negligence
the chiefs did the same thing with mahomes after he was concussed in the playoffs against the browns only a couple days later they cleared him to play the next week when theres no way he recovered that fast. its all about money and winning in the nfl they don't care about player safety
I feel bad for Tua that he’s always hurt though such a good amazing player to watch
Chris should be employed by NFL to write the concussion protocol. If the NFL is serious about protecting players, there can be no loopholes, no individual team standards, strict recovery times before a player can return and serious consequences including criminal negligence when the protocols are skirted.
The UFC hands out medical suspensions to winners AND losers after a fight. NFL just lets them play a week later, in this case, 4 days later.
The DARK SIDE OF THE NFL BEING EXPOSED!
The doctor gets punked by the head coach...then the "independent" concussion doctor is punked by his employer, the NFL..this isn't an easy problem to solve
A guy like Chris needs be incharge of the protocol in these sports leagues a guy that knows the science and won't be bullied
He sounds like he wants football canceled. No thanks
@Jeffrey Woods Interesting how you are subscribed to DAZN. *HYPOCRITE*
Heads should roll for this all over the Dolphins organization. And the league. How dare they!!!
McDaniel should never be allowed to coach again for lying to the media about Tua's "back injury". Disgusting behavior.
@@paulmd7747 that’s BS Paul. You are ASSUMING he lied which is completely unfair. He IS NOT a doctor, therefore he CANNOT make medical decisions. Those decisions and medical analysis are made by medical doctors, NOT coaches. He was told what the problems/injuries were BY the doctor, therefore he didn’t lie. If the doctors made an incorrect evaluation, that’s on them, the medical experts, NOT the coach! All these internet Monday morning expert NON-doctors need to hush!
McDaniel is in way over his head
It's what an NFL do.
@@ShaunHensley and what evidence do u have to support that? The last time they started 3-0 was when?
It's crazy cz I had no idea that was the chris nowinski from wwf till I saw him on tmz and heard him mention his past issues. I always remember rumor was he had neck issues which took him out of wrestling
I obviously don’t know all the ins & outs of the situation. But one thought that has been nagging me is, was it possible Tua was “forced” or “pressured “ to go back in the game Sunday? Or even play on Thursday night?
It's also equally possible that Tua felt pressure from all the criticism... which has been going on for years. He knew going in that he was playing for his career this year. And many former players have spoken about the multiple ways they get around the existing protocol.
The entire culture of the sport puts pressure on players to play when they shouldn't. It's not a bug but a feature of the game and it's a huge problem. If a player is injured a lot and has to sit a lot, he as a "product" is called into question by the fans, by the media, by the organization. The players aren't stupid. They know. Something has to change.
the NFL claiming they care about player safety is an absolute joke. Anyone who watched the game on sunday vs the bills knows Tua had a concussion there. For the team to lie and say it was a "back injury" is laughable. You don't get visual impairment and fall down from back injuries after hitting your head. evidently there needs to be someone who overseas all nfl njuries where a player leaves the field. a concussion czar if you will, someone to be accountable and say that player cant return to the same game nor have any football activity for 10 days. it seems like someone is going to have to die on the field before this stops
Tua was obviously concussed against Buffalo. They put him back in the game anyway. The NFL should set aside the result of that game and suspend Miami medical, management, and coaches for the rest of the season.
Sad to say we are at a tipping point..where physicians are middle management..not primary decision makers..if someone above in corporate and or insurer mode influences a situation such as a concussed pro football player..no self respecting neurologist discharges a player with Tua’s on field behavior.
The parallels between the nfl and the military are astounding
When I was 32 I was playing pickup basketball, while back pedaling on defense someone threw a full court pass which I had a beat on, so I lept to intercept it. My teammate had the same idea though he didn't jump, and he was 50 pounds bigger so he won the battle of the mass, in air, he must have taken my legs out from me and my head hit the court crazy hard... it's a testament to the strength of the human skull because if I hit it any harder it would have cracked like an egg, I shudder when I think back on it. I instantly had a massive headache... definitely concussed. Ever since then, I get episodic migraines which prior to abortive medications were absolutely debilitating... they would make me vomit and I'm not embarrassed to admit that I often cried from the inescapable pain that lasted for 12-20 hours. This was just one concussion, so they are really fucking serious. I hope Tua's career isn't over, but even more important, I hope his life isn't altered in ways that he will regret. Thoughts are with him.
the evidence for diagnosing a concussion is literally to watch the impact that caused the damage. So yeah he was able to make a diagnosis and would probably suggest MRIs and monitoring for the development of visible damage.
I’ve been playing or watching football for 40 years and I’ve never seen any player shake their head and stumble from a back injury or any other injury than a concussion
We all know it was a head injury the medical staff with Miami were just blowing smoke up everyones backside because that’s standard operating procedure it’s how they skate around the real issue
He is back in protocol.
Tua should get an attorney right away and don't play the rest of the season
He should retire
The game is in reality people trying to cripple and concuss each other.All fans are part of the problem.The greedy owners could care less what happens to the meat running around on the field.
If you have been diagnosed with a concussion you should have to miss the next game. Give time to rest.
Doctors recommend 3 to 4 weeks for the brain to fully heal.
Problem is they didn’t diagnose him w a concussion for the Bills hit. They claimed it was back and ankle. That’s where the problem begins.
If the NFL has learn anything from the past years on CTE, it should be obvious to change the rules on players that suffer continuous hits on the head (linesman), WR, QB, CB and limit them to a maximum number of consecutive games played and enforce a recovery period (2 weeks or whatever is required). Something very important to bear in mind, is that fans will turn on TVs and attend the games to see their favorite jersey winning the game, doesn't matter who is playing or how spectacular his team is playing, they want to see a win a championship, so increase rosters to 120 or 180, they have enough player's market, reduce salaries and still make tons of money.
The game can definitely be evolved so there is less devastating physical contact..the sheernumber of injury status reports..attrition of player participation thru a 17 game season..increasingly NFL does not showcase the best players vs the best on opposing teams. It is about who is left to contend. Just the way players creatively celebrate winning moments..shows the power of improvisation and the reward for playing to winning outcomes. There are such positives to NFL games each season. It doesn’t need to be a house of cards..where devastating hits preclude otherwise sophisticated and well thought out play calls.
Now we get to see all of the head safety commercials from the NFL and how they care. The NFL spends 100 million dollars to tell everyone they spent 10 million on players safety.
mcdaniel saying its just a concussion is disgusting comment. by his own statement means he wouldnt care if tua went back in as he thinks concussion not serious
One small « big » step: limit Thursday night games to 15 per season and every team plays once with their bye week the week before the Thursday night game. Thé NFL only sacrifices a few games in the name of safety. It won’t solve the problem but maintains the historical minimum of a week between games.
So 2 teams won't play a Thursday night game? That will be a huge issue in itself.. I agree though, it's just too fast of a turn around & I'd say just cut the damn game out all together!
just get rid of the Thursday night game completely. give everyone a full week between games
The problem is very simple. Every single person in the “process” is HIGHLY financially motivated to keep the concussed player on the field. That is the paradox at the core of this whole thing that has to be fixed before anything can change.
"Punishment Theater". I like that.
There is NO excuse for this bs occurring. It'll prolly end what would've been one hell of a career.
McDaniel and the Dolphins medical staff all need to GO! No ifs ands or buts about it. This disgrace must never happen again.
BTW, Chris is doing all he can to learn about concussion. Not that BS Farve org.
Lost all respect for Mike McDaniel, he's a liar, all they wanted was to win against the bills, didn't care about anything more. No player respect
Doctors take an oath. They should be striped of their liscenses.
Traumatic brain injury never heal while you may look good physically and be able to function the symptoms linger or may not show for years. I suffered one 17 years ago while being rear ended at a dead stop and the vehicle that struck me was traveling 70 mph
When they let him back in the Buffalo game I thought it was ridiculous.
As a life long nfl fan, this is enough to turn me off from the game.
Blah blah blah, ....this is such overhyped sensationalistic bullsh!t! Do they not realize that these players are aware of and are willing to take the risks to play the game they love, ...for a chance to make amounts of money that provide multi-generational wealth?! ....but even more importantly, do they not realize THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL SPORTS WHERE THE ENTIRE POINT IS TO KNOCK OUT YOUR OPPONENT?! Boxing, UFC, Kick Boxing, etc etc etc. This is so much ridiculous overblown horsesh!t! This is such an unrealistic, disproportionate amount of outrage! Just plain stupid!
Definitely scary. I thought it was more spinal, but the way his hands were did not look good. To add, I didn't see the Bills game and they should be following protocol
concussions are happening in nascar and they are taking the concussions seriously, driver kurt busch got a concussion at pocono raceway in july and hasn't raced since, and this past weekend driver alex bowman announced he was having concussion symptoms and missed this weekend's race at talladega superspeedway so why can't they in the nfl it's ridiculous
The narrative in regards to the Tua concussion incidents has clearly overlooked the real issue. The question no one is asking and deserves to be answered is whether Tua is physically fit to play football. His injury history is an indicator of this and he’s always at risk and his probability of injury is very high on any play.
Tua’s initial concussion should have set off alarm bells because it wasn’t a result of being driven into the tuff by a player or group of players whereby he had 260 to 900+ lbs of weight burying his head or back into the turf. He stumbled backwards and hit his head off the ground. Who would expect a player at any age or at any level of the game getting a concussion on that play?
Eric Lindros is a perfect example of someone playing at the highest level in his sport who was very prone to concussions/ injuries. 😢
He is a hundred percent right. Nfl is shameful
Blah blah blah, ....this is such overhyped sensationalistic bullsh!t! Do they not realize that these players are aware of and are willing to take the risks to play the game they love, ...for a chance to make amounts of money that provide multi-generational wealth?! ....but even more importantly, do they not realize THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL SPORTS WHERE THE ENTIRE POINT IS TO KNOCK OUT YOUR OPPONENT?! Boxing, UFC, Kick Boxing, etc etc etc. This is so much ridiculous overblown horsesh!t! This is such an unrealistic, disproportionate amount of outrage! Just plain stupid! There are 1000 boxing and UFC knock out compilations on YT, they sieze up like Tua ALL THE TIME! No one is talking about ENDING boxing or UFC or kick boxing. The media is taking this way too far! END FOOTBALL?! GTFOH! These dipsh!ts WONT HAVE A JOB! Once they start making ridiculous statements like "End Football, they need to STFU!
Pray for Tua🙏
They should be taken out of the game immediately and miss the next game, then re-evaluate.
It is obvious to every average NFL fan who saw the first hit that he had some concussion type event . The average fan knew he should not have been allowed to continue to play in the Buffalo event . When the thursday game event happened the average fan knew that this should not have happened . Obviously the protocol that the players and NFL has does not work . Every average fan knows this .
People are using the Video of the Mahomet ankle injury to say it's his ankle, but in those incidents similar the coaches refused to let them play regardless. That should have occured.
If you play madden, they have every possible injury except for concussions, and if somebody is suspended for the year, they won't mention it
So why didn't tua get a concussion in the 2nd half of the game? If he had a concussion in that game and your worried about 4 days later of him getting another concussion. Why didn't he get one in the 2nd half? Why didn't he show any signs of an concussion after the game, the following three days?
Cause it was mild bro. Thursday went from mild to severe simple as that
Not enough rest or treatment in between
If he got hit in the second half, he might of died..so yah
@@kyleborah8967 stop being so over dramatic. Doesn't everyone almost die while getting in a car. Stop watch football.
Yes, what McDaniel said was strange but I'm pretty sure he said.....glad he didn't break his neck!!! Come on people, it's subjective but he shouldn't have played, I agree on that. McDaniel is a smart, nice, and great guy. Leave him alone
This is his moment to show leadership. He’s already making steps in the wrong direction, he better change his tune and outlook pronto, this will be a character defining moment that will follow him the duration of his career
Suddenly there are thousands of new neurosurgeon since Thursday night
The dolphins need to be severely punished and there needs to be immediate changes made by the NFL
I have a feeling greed will have played a huge part in this. How Dare they!
Stop whining, Tua chose to play.
Let me grab a violin.
@@zzxmookysxzz4103 not funny! You know Tua is black. If he were white proper care would be taken. You sir are a racist.
A player with a concussion can’t choose to play. His brain was injured, those around him didn’t do their jobs, stop being a clown.
Dr. Bennet Omalu discovered CTE. Not this clown.
Just listen to Dale Earnhardt Jr. tell his story on concussions. Probably the worst single case of concussions I've ever heard. Well worth listening to his story. It ultimately caused him to retire from Nascar.
Maybe we need to expand team rosters to 106 players and limit play to no more than once every two weeks. We can't trust the players to admit to head injuries. We certainly cannot trust the coaches, trainers, team physicians or the owners. Clearly we cannot trust the NFL leadership and their so-called independent medical professionals. Limit players' exposure to all injuries by playing every other game. Spread the risk out among an additional 1700 college players willing to play in the NFL no matter what.
It was A NFL DOCTOR That cleared him vs Bills NOT A Dolphins Doctor !
Why the outrage?!?!??!! The NFL does not care about injuries. Not do fan, gamblers, etc. As long as people cheer for these hits, gamble on the games, etc, THEY do not have the right to be outraged.
NFL should suspend everyone involved for a year including Tua. Send a message to the entire League if you allow a concussed player in the game you will be gone for a year first offense , 5 years the second time and lifetime ban for a 3rd offense.
If you think Tua's injury was brutal talk to a combat Veteran.
@D. B. Allen or anyone who’s plowed your mom.
The fuq? This is football homie.
Poor comparison
@@kennethheron2659 Please explain how a concussion from explosive is not as bad as a football related concussion?
NO. WE ARE TALKING FOOTBALL
That doctor should be investigated by whoever he is licensed by.
I get everything he's saying. And he's spot on. Except the part of getting rid of the game. Educate pple so they have that "choice". Don't try to be a dictator. As bad as it can be. There are way more players that have been fine, than ones were not. If that's the case. Let's get rid of boxing. Bc that's even worse. Let's all sit in bubbles.
If your son was lying on the ground like Tua, would you be okay with him playing again?
The game needs to have less protection not more. Counterintuitive, but how many CTEs are in rugby compared to the NFL?
@@1who4me it's a huge problem in rugby too. They are where the nfl was 10 years ago in their head trauma culture. The worst concussion I ever had was from playing rugby. I love contact sports but if I could have a chat with my 13 year old self, I would advise against it.
@@adamdunbar8260 It depends. I've seen a a lot. And have also had family members laying on the ground from injiry like that. They were fine after playing again. The prob is the way they handled this. Not the game itself. And not the chances of the I jury happening in the game. The comment was about getting rid of the game.
@@1who4me CTE is a long term condition. Almost impossible to know that. It's also a lot more nuanced than just getting concussions. There is genetic components also.
The players aren’t Drs but they know the risk. Most of them wouldn’t turn down the check for any alleged repercussions. I’d take the risk for 230 million guaranteed dollars but I’m poor. Drs are not poor so to them life is always worth more than the risk. Ask someone that is 35 working at the grocery store what they would do for $100 mill.
Recruit kids to put on a costume? How about all the positive things football can teach kids to improve their life. Yes their are risks involved. Praying for Tua he never should have played Thursday.
I’ve had this theory that the NFL (and all sport media to be honest) loves it when a team with a market like Miami is successful. Even when The Dolphins were terrible, there always was this effort to constantly hype them up, because the city of Miami has so many foreigners who are at or just right above the poverty line, and therefore primed to have their kids recruited to play football as “a way out”. Very similar to the way the military recruits.
I'm curious.. would it have been ok to let Tua practice but sit Thursday?
The protocol should have been initiated on Sunday’s hit. So I guess the answer to your question is in the protocol
NFL, who is tax exempt, is too cheap to pay for full time Ref's !
They need to be punished !
I just watched Chris's WWE promo back in the early 2000s. Lol.
Funny how Nowinski was booked as a heel in WWE when he is one of the few good doctors out there.
Smart booking. The man went to Harvard, he was a good looking, young football player from Harvard, what fat, toothless wrasslin fan in the crowd wouldn't be jealous of Nowinski.
Add in his natural speaking skills, and give him a hot women at his side and WWE could have had a main event player in Nowinski.
Shame how his athletic career ended and hope he continues to live a full life.
Despite numerous concussions in football and wrestling, sometimes multiple concussions in a week, Chris always says he's lucky he isn't worse off.
When you have 100's of millions of $'s at stake, I can easily believe Tua would lie about injury/symptoms. The dude is literally playing for a multi-hundred million $ contract. I'd downplay my symptoms too. It would be generational wealth for my family. I don't believe it is solely the NFL pushing Tua onto the field for ratings (although that definitely played a part too), it is a combination of poor decision making by the player, the Dr's, the NFL.
How Many nfl players get concussions every week? Everyone needs to get real how football is.
The Redskin's, (out of greed) kept RGIII on the field, when he should not have been playing.
It ended his career. That was a leg injury...
anyone that gets knocked out locks up.......we see this all the time. we cant make the game any softer....The game is already 99 percent penalties and qbs can barely be touched.......
Would be okay if it was your son who "locked up" which by the way is a symptom of traumatic brain injury or something seen in strokes
The problem isn't concussions, every contact sport has concussions. The problem is concussion treatment. Permanent damage comes from multiple concussions without enough time in between for the brain tissue to heal. Neurologists recommend 3 to 4 weeks.
I want to ku med center trying to get help for my Tbi they said that’s main people thay take care of is Kansas chiefs and they are there to get people in the game how do we move forward if the main places that treat is against declaring someone who has a Tbi not to have it because they want to get them back to work
Fire Goodell !
That's why the NFL stands for. not for long
He should take the rest of the season off.
If miami would’ve benched him
They would’ve been called racist
How many fringe players we can't remember the names of who aren't the franchise QB have experienced this... too many to count I would imagine. I love football, but the NFL is like all other billionaire run companies... too greedy for their own good.
One has nothing to do with the other.
If you think that the NFL really cares about players health and safety, then I've got beach front property in Arizona for you. Ask yourself this. If players health and safety was a priority, then why do they have players play on a Thursday after a Sunday game?
So, Tua comes back and risks a THIRD concussion of the year? I don't think so. Boycott the games if he comes back this year.
Well if his brain can fully heal before the end of the season, than yes he can come back and play. It's not about the total number of concussions that occur over an interval of time, but rather the rapid succession in which they occur. Some neurologists/neurotrauma specialists have been making videos about this situation, they are very insightful and offer more value than these talk show host type of guys.
Ha! An "NFL not being good citizens..."(5:40)...Welcome to a world run by corporate entities who care first and foremost about profit, and seemingly, sometimes nothing more than profit. Its the world we live in, the world we demand. People need to look in the mirror.
I understand they could have just said take a break no playing this Thursday, but he was cleared he felt good apparently, and no one can predict he would get slammed down again like that. If your worried about him in particular he should never play again, because every game it's a risk. This is a voluntary sport and they know what they are getting into. As far as we know he did not have a concussion on Sunday. Medically we have been told that. Are we saying the Doctor's are lying? If you have systems in place but don't believe them, what's the point? Act like the NFL is a predator and forces kids to want to be nfl players, give me a break.
So u saw thw play Sunday, and u don't think it was a concussion? ..everyone knows what they look like u don't need to be a doctor.
The only way to make everything safe is to not play the game at all. We can cry all day over concussion theater but unless you're ending the game, you're not going to end concussions.
That said, the Dolphins organization should have stepped in and saved Tua from himself last week against Buffalo. They didnt, and now every thing is exacerbated, to include everyones concern, anger, questions and drama.
Thank you! Dolphins messed up…..but I have been watching football for 35 years. Nothing u can do to make football safe. Leave it alone. Players know the risk. If you don’t like it DON’T WATCH!
Tua probably followed the team doctors advice. Under normal circumstances he would have been kept in the hospital for testing and observation. I believe no doctor would have allowed him to fly home. Unfortunately the out of town doctors probably had to defer to Dolphins doctors. Hopefully they had the team and player sign a waiver absolving them of any responsibility in case Tua’s situation is really bad
@@captain1jones354 exactly these players know the risks!!!! 90% will risk their health rather than living broke. Everything is a choice
@@alih122 in my 50s football will be dead and I know it. All it takes is one guy to die on the field and it’s over.
He was ALREADY injured and they played him 4 days later anyway knowing the chances are wAY WORSE for another one and made up some nonsense about a "back injury"
He shouldn’t have played but I’m also kinda suspicious of these people speaking out. They likely stand to make money in a suit down the line.
You not going to stop football, rugby, car racing, or bull riding.
I understand this Dr. was against Tua playing, but where was this energy from the rest of the media before the game, to blame the coach that has been a NFL coach for 4 games is ridiculous.
Irrelevant deflection
Don't let your kids play football.
Blah blah blah, ....this is such overhyped sensationalistic bullsh!t! Do they not realize that these players are aware of and are willing to take the risks to play the game they love, ...for a chance to make amounts of money that provide multi-generational wealth?! ....but even more importantly, do they not realize THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL SPORTS WHERE THE ENTIRE POINT IS TO KNOCK OUT YOUR OPPONENT?! Boxing, UFC, Kick Boxing, etc etc etc. This is so much ridiculous overblown horsesh!t! This is such an unrealistic, disproportionate amount of outrage! Just plain stupid! There are 1000 boxing and UFC knock out compilations on YT, they sieze up like Tua ALL THE TIME! No one is talking about ENDING boxing or UFC or kick boxing. The media is taking this way too far! END FOOTBALL?! GTFOH! These dipsh!ts WONT HAVE A JOB! Once they start making ridiculous statements like "End Football, they need to STFU!
Very SAD .... FIRE the COMMENTATOR !