I love to see development still going strong for these machines in 2021! I'll finally be building myself a FujiNet (internal daughter board) for my 576NUC+.
Delightful! I had a rather similar setup in the early '80s and learned everything I ever needed to know about computers on my Atari 800. I put in a physical switch to turn off the keyclick and used physical disk drives. Atari 8K Basic is wonderful with all the features that are missing from the more standard Microsoft Basic. String handling is entirely different, much more like in C. Every number in Atari Basic is floating-point. 2.35E4 really works as a Basic line number. But there was a bug in the floating-point routines that made calculations really slow. So we were practically forced to write integer math subroutines in Assembly Language that could be stored in and called from Basic strings! Then there was that ANTIC chip for real multiprocessing. I used to drift off to sleep running possible DLI routines through my head. I gave it all up in '86 when I got my Atari ST 520 so I could get into that 68000 CPU. I'm running an Atari 800 emulator on my Mac but it's just not the same. I can't wait to see more!
It was Creative Computing who showed me how to add that switch to silence the keyclick. In fact, they were the ones who sold me on the Atari in the first place. I do so miss that magazine.
Just an ultra amazing ATARI vibe here! You ROCK :) Atari is a small niche nowadays but a needed one! Go Go Go! (I'm more graphic artist than programmation, Im in awe!!!)
@@8bitandmore Nice! What’s great about the side3 is it also replaces the ultimate cartridge so it can emulate pretty much any cart scheme and with the ultimate1mb you can load ATR files. The only downside is I wish I could easily access the fat filesystem read/write from the Atari and vice versa accessing the Sparta DOS files from the SD/CF cards via Altirra... :(
I used to have an EPROM programmer cartridge that was pretty cool. I also made a board that stacked 10 EPROMS and I could select from 10 different OS ROMS. OmniMon, OmniView, 800, 800Xl, etc... Interesting that people are still playing with these. I wish I had all of my old hardware.
I have a similar environment set up using SIDE3, so no cartridge stacking, which I set up as following some of your tutorials :) I haven't done the MAC65 utilities though, so I think I'll do that next, and I like the idea of the autoexec.bat, something else I haven't done, so I might 'borrow' yours :) Keep up the tutorials, they're great. Happy New Year!
I so much appreciate the time you took to publish this video. Man, I have guarded my 130xe waiting for this day. I would only need to know how to replace the computer to screen cable connector (UHF/VHF switcher) and my machine will be ready to go!! Please help me with finding a replacement (or adaptor). Thanks!
I have been dragging my feet on ordering the SpartaDosX cart , but finally put the order in. Of course now they are on backorder... My original Mac/65 cart and Fujinet are ready though. Admittedly I like using SIO2PC/RespeQt as a way of printing out program lists on my modern dual display computer. I even keep one monitor in portrait mode solely for the purpose! It makes it much easier to read and reference code. Does Fujinet have that capability yet?
The Fujinet allows you to print to the standard printer device like this: LIST "P:" You can then hit the fujinet with your browser and download a PDF output of the listing! Totally cool.
@@8bitandmore Yeah, I really like being able to print directly to the screen with the SIO2PC. I love the printing without wasting paper. I'm definitely understanding Fujinet better, but still having trouble locating the local TNSF software. With that said, I get a lot out of your videos and thanks for making them!
Hi, I am putting together a large purchase order at thenrewingcompany to outfit an ATARI and TI99. Fujinet included. :) Is it possible to replace the stack you show here with the Ultimate-A8? Or is the SIDE3 mandatory? By the way, thanks for what you do keeping ATARI alive.
Love this series of videos. I've been meaning to get started on assembly language for my Atari since ... 1984, I guess. Time to get going in 2021. I have an AVG Cart on its way which I hope will be able to act as a MAC/65 cart. One question; which device are you mounting those virtual drives from? The FujiNet?
Could I ask, why do you not cross assemble from a PC/Mac across to an Atari Emulator? The tools available today on modern platforms are much more proficient for programming and outweigh the pain of developing on the target platform even with a cartridge.
@@8bitandmore I can certainly agree with you on the maintaining hardware part, but on the development side I can't agree unless all you are doing is poking a few registers here and there to understand the what the hardware does. Each to their own though and thanks for doing the videos, I grew up with an 800XL and so one day soon I may venture back to it and make a game as the machine is close to my heart (next to the Amiga).
Watching someone use an emulator makes for boring video. Would you be watching this video if it was just a recording of his Windows desktop? I wouldn't!
Is it possible to emulate this two cartridge setup on altira or atari800mac? When using mac/65 .car rom, I’m left with no disk access (or doing things wrong). Thank you.
@@8bitandmore I’ve already solved it, my mistake. Waiting for another asm video. You made my childhood dream come true - finally able to write at least something that works (and very fast) :) Thank you
Sparta DOS is awesome. Back in the day I had a 130XE, Sparta DOS X, RTime8, and an ICD 1MB MIO. Loved that setup.
So much more powerful than any of the setups I had on 8 bit computers back in the time!
I love to see development still going strong for these machines in 2021! I'll finally be building myself a FujiNet (internal daughter board) for my 576NUC+.
Delightful!
I had a rather similar setup in the early '80s and learned everything I ever needed to know about computers on my Atari 800. I put in a physical switch to turn off the keyclick and used physical disk drives.
Atari 8K Basic is wonderful with all the features that are missing from the more standard Microsoft Basic. String handling is entirely different, much more like in C.
Every number in Atari Basic is floating-point. 2.35E4 really works as a Basic line number. But there was a bug in the floating-point routines that made calculations really slow.
So we were practically forced to write integer math subroutines in Assembly Language that could be stored in and called from Basic strings!
Then there was that ANTIC chip for real multiprocessing. I used to drift off to sleep running possible DLI routines through my head.
I gave it all up in '86 when I got my Atari ST 520 so I could get into that 68000 CPU.
I'm running an Atari 800 emulator on my Mac but it's just not the same.
I can't wait to see more!
Very cool to hear your 8bit stories!
It was Creative Computing who showed me how to add that switch to silence the keyclick. In fact, they were the ones who sold me on the Atari in the first place.
I do so miss that magazine.
This is really cool. That's all I can add :). I look forward to seeing more of your videos and playing around with my 800+incognito more now..
Awesome, thank you!
Just an ultra amazing ATARI vibe here! You ROCK :) Atari is a small niche nowadays but a needed one! Go Go Go! (I'm more graphic artist than programmation, Im in awe!!!)
My 130XE is modded with a Sophia DVI, Ultimate1MB, SIDE3, UAV, and a Fujinet. I'm surprised they all work together so well!
I ordered a SIDE2 and will be using it to develop.
@@8bitandmore Nice! What’s great about the side3 is it also replaces the ultimate cartridge so it can emulate pretty much any cart scheme and with the ultimate1mb you can load ATR files. The only downside is I wish I could easily access the fat filesystem read/write from the Atari and vice versa accessing the Sparta DOS files from the SD/CF cards via Altirra... :(
You’re so lucky to have the Sophia mod! They’ve been unavailable for awhile given the chip shortage :(
I finally got to turn on my 130xe like a week ago after having it for years doing nothing
I used to have an EPROM programmer cartridge that was pretty cool. I also made a board that stacked 10 EPROMS and I could select from 10 different OS ROMS. OmniMon, OmniView, 800, 800Xl, etc... Interesting that people are still playing with these. I wish I had all of my old hardware.
Wow, would have liked to have seen the stacked 10 EPROMS!
The only Cartridge I cared about on my 130XE was OSS BasicXL
I have a similar environment set up using SIDE3, so no cartridge stacking, which I set up as following some of your tutorials :) I haven't done the MAC65 utilities though, so I think I'll do that next, and I like the idea of the autoexec.bat, something else I haven't done, so I might 'borrow' yours :) Keep up the tutorials, they're great. Happy New Year!
Amazing! I really like this channel.
Very nice setup. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Fantastic video! Thank you for sharing
Thank you too!
@@8bitandmore I just bought all the things you suggested. I would like to write a video game. Do you have books to write games for Atari 800?
I so much appreciate the time you took to publish this video. Man, I have guarded my 130xe waiting for this day. I would only need to know how to replace the computer to screen cable connector (UHF/VHF switcher) and my machine will be ready to go!! Please help me with finding a replacement (or adaptor). Thanks!
I have been dragging my feet on ordering the SpartaDosX cart , but finally put the order in. Of course now they are on backorder... My original Mac/65 cart and Fujinet are ready though. Admittedly I like using SIO2PC/RespeQt as a way of printing out program lists on my modern dual display computer. I even keep one monitor in portrait mode solely for the purpose! It makes it much easier to read and reference code. Does Fujinet have that capability yet?
The Fujinet allows you to print to the standard printer device like this:
LIST "P:"
You can then hit the fujinet with your browser and download a PDF output of the listing! Totally cool.
@@8bitandmore Yeah, I really like being able to print directly to the screen with the SIO2PC. I love the printing without wasting paper. I'm definitely understanding Fujinet better, but still having trouble locating the local TNSF software. With that said, I get a lot out of your videos and thanks for making them!
Hi, I am putting together a large purchase order at thenrewingcompany to outfit an ATARI and TI99. Fujinet included. :) Is it possible to replace the stack you show here with the Ultimate-A8? Or is the SIDE3 mandatory? By the way, thanks for what you do keeping ATARI alive.
There are many ways to skin the cat, which ever one you find gets you coding is good!
Love this series of videos. I've been meaning to get started on assembly language for my Atari since ... 1984, I guess. Time to get going in 2021. I have an AVG Cart on its way which I hope will be able to act as a MAC/65 cart. One question; which device are you mounting those virtual drives from? The FujiNet?
Yes, #Fujinet. It's provides D1-D8 drives and also a wireless modem
@@8bitandmore It’s on my list for later this year as well. I’ll start off with my SIO2SD, works fine for now.
where van i get sparta dos and mac65?
Depends on if you are wanting the cartridge versions or the disks...
There is a link in the description of the video on where to get.
Happy New Year!
Same to you!
I should be able to use my SDMAX to do the same thing instead of having the Fujinet, am I correct ?
Yes absolutely
Hi, thank you for your vids! Question: is it possible to develop for Atari 8bits with an emulated 130 XE?
I believe so, there is Altirra and other emulators you can use.
Awesome setup!
Thank you! Cheers!
Awesome!
Could I ask, why do you not cross assemble from a PC/Mac across to an Atari Emulator? The tools available today on modern platforms are much more proficient for programming and outweigh the pain of developing on the target platform even with a cartridge.
Just not as fun, plain and simple. Plus, I enjoy maintaining the old hardware.
@@8bitandmore I can certainly agree with you on the maintaining hardware part, but on the development side I can't agree unless all you are doing is poking a few registers here and there to understand the what the hardware does. Each to their own though and thanks for doing the videos, I grew up with an 800XL and so one day soon I may venture back to it and make a game as the machine is close to my heart (next to the Amiga).
Watching someone use an emulator makes for boring video. Would you be watching this video if it was just a recording of his Windows desktop? I wouldn't!
@@8_Bit it depends what is on the windows desktop or what is being emulated.
I'm looking a purchasing an atari computer, would the 130XE be the way to go?
Can't go wrong with it for sure. It's the model I use myself and you can get many upgrades for it to improve video, sound and add more memory
@@8bitandmore thanks for the advice!
We need a git client for atari fujinet :)
Is it possible to emulate this two cartridge setup on altira or atari800mac? When using mac/65 .car rom, I’m left with no disk access (or doing things wrong). Thank you.
I know you can insert a cart in the emulator and boot from a disk but not sure about two carts.
@@8bitandmore I’ve already solved it, my mistake. Waiting for another asm video. You made my childhood dream come true - finally able to write at least something that works (and very fast) :) Thank you
happy new year keep up the good work
Thanks, you too!
Semicolon is to comment the code, but also to separate parameters in the Path command? That is pretty confusing..
If the semicolon is the first character in the line it sees it as a comment in the batchfile
Awesome, this is where I would be at if I didn't get married! I'll ignore that you said "percent" because $N would be pronounced "String N" ;-)
oops.. my bad but thanks for catching that
Boring
LOL, you must be a C64 user