What’s still missing in Ferrari’s F1 revolution
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Ferrari is making big moves for the future of its F1 team and tangibly progressing on track - but its recent wave of momentum has been blunted by two weekends in which not just Red Bull but a resurgent McLaren defeated it.
So what is the upgraded SF-24 still missing?
00:00 Intro
00:43 Fighting to be second-best
02:50 Relentless recruitment (Serra and d'Ambrosio in)
05:11 Unafraid of key changes (Leclerc's engineer swap)
07:26 Faster development needed
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The race: Why did Ferrari swap out Xavi Marcos?
Xavi: We are checking
"Plan C"
@@stephensegal5187 how about ORIGINAL line
@@Dendyaryadi Plan B was unsuccessful......
question
And they again screw the strategy boxing laps later.😅
As a Tifosi I love Ferrari's improvement under Vasseur. Nothing too extreme like McLaren's Magic bullet they discovered before Austria last year. The team is not relying in anything jackpot-like. Just continuous improvement, at a steady pace, each week becoming a better organization. I have never seen this before at Ferrari. It is looking very good for us. Forza Ferrari!
It’s hard to comprehend that with the resources that Ferrari have enjoyed since 1950, they have not won more races and constructor titles! Be that as it may, I think part of the problem is the Italian mindset involved ie they think with their hearts and not their heads..they need a a healthy dose of todt and Braun again!!!
That's the best part actually
I'm sure he will make a winning team
@johnking5792 relax at least we get less hate
Reminds me of the Schumacher build up era.
Ferrari were on the right track when they had Arrivabene.
They had revolutionary cars and were constantly coming up with radical interesting developments that Merc and Redbull copied from.
But Binotto and Elkman had to go and screw that up and make Ferrari a midfield team.
Vasseur is a good replacement so far but Ferrari need to start challenging for the title next season.
What Ferrari are missing are those final 3-4 kph down the straights. That's what is holding them up in qualy and it's also the only area where they are losing in race pace. Despite constantly losing in sector 1, Leclerc was often able to match Verstappen and Norris on lap time.
And that could be down to rear wing choice. They apparently have some new wings already ready
They went slightly more loaded on the wing this weekend that cost them
@@michaeltelfer3483Source?
@@dylanburston7453 maybe, although a better underfloor could provide some of the extra downforce the bigger wing gives, with a lower drag penalty
@@Amy-dq2lg The floor is fine. The downforve is fine Yeah, but this wing was part of the package, and it was right on the edge of being just right and too draggy.
Before the upgrade, Ferrari brought the same wing to every race, the only team to do so.
'Fred's Ferrari' - has a nice ring to it
"In Fred I trust" is all I need to say
Vasseur is literally the best TP on the Grid right now. I fucking love this dude
That thumbnail lmao
Best one you guys made
Maybe I'm missing something... what's so special about it?
@@soundscape26 bro look at it
what am I missing?
@@kasra8106 I may have to take a look at it on a larger screen. 😄
Its driving me insane! What is it?
"Ferrari is the dark horse of the season"
The Race: "I don't see it."
Vasseur is cooking
horse
was💀
Neigh
HONSE
Tommo you should oil up
@@SilvercraftStudio ayo
The biggest improvement so far has been the PR. All of the F1 media outlets are all aboard the Fred hype train and take everything he says for granted.
thumbnail was genius
Here after they changed it, what was it originally?
@@dronedoutmedia814 It was the Ferrari logo without the horse
We will miss xavi's communication. Copy we are checking.....
I won't lol, even just hearing him once every 2 weeks drives me mad so i can't imagine working with him every day of my life ahah
Xavi just comes off sounding like Manuel from Fawlty Towers. Glad he’s been “moved upstairs”.
“It’s time to go, Xavi.”
“Was I a good race engineer?”
“We are checking. Will get back to you.”
Nah, he always sounded incompetent. Single handedly turned Ferrari into a meme
With the progress Ferrari and Mclaren are making, somehow it looks like a 3-team fight for poles and wins could be around the corner late this year and 2025 if this trend continues. That's saying something considering the start of this year made it look like Max was going to dominate again.
It is already is a 3 team fight for quali and the races
With how bad Mercedes has been doing the past 3 years, I wouldn’t exactly call recruiting Merc personnel a massive win.
Xavi got fired because all he does is “check” without giving any info, thank god Charles has a new engineer
What's missing? Newey most obviously.
Ok, we are checking
Mixed up Aston and Mercedes logos at 2:44
Fred walked into Ferrari, and said "Too Italian..."
HP looked at the Ferrari livery, and said "Too red..."
Hamilton looked his Mercedes, and said "Too bad..."
Newey looked at Christian Horner, and said "Toodle-ooo..."
I know your post was more ironic than not, but when I read stuff like "Too Italian..." it bothers me a bit because it happens relatively often and usually in a bad way.
D'Ambrosio and Serra are typical Italian surnames (I know in this case the two are not Italians by nationality), and they substitute Laurent Mekies and David Sanchez, respectively, typical of France and Spain.
Bryan Bozzi is Italian, while Xavier Marcos is Spanish.
So if anything, it went more Italian than before.
Yet the guys behind Verstappen and McLaren's success are both Italian, Lambiase(British born) and Stella.
@@robertop.2700 And since we're talking about names, an Italian called Bryan is also peculiar. Agree with your post though.
More like Hamilton would say a little something different 😂
Can’t help but think Ferrari need more in the aero department. For example, the floor edge looks so basic compared to Red Bull and McLaren.
Just read that somewhere, do you understand aero? What do you mean by basic? Was 22 merc basic? Did it work?
Scott, why are u screaming in the video lol, had to listen to the video with 10% volume
Dear Scott, I can hear you just fine. Please settle down. Thanks
To all that don't know the reason why Leclerc's engineer was changed, the main reason is because he's still checking on things Leclerc asked about two seasons ago, so Ferrari decided it was better to swap him just to see if he finds time to check on the stuff Leclerc needs for those races in 2022 and 2023.
This video reminds me of just how bad Mattia Binotto was at his job.
I understand why they went with Hamilton but I dont think Sainz needed replacing
Yes, Hamilton is the #2 at Mercedes. I think this is their big mistake. Taking the leap of faith and investing in Bearman would have been the thing. I suspect Hamilton will underperform and continue to be toxic as it's always the car's fault if he does so.
2:24 ‘2024 average performance’ chart switches Merc & AM compared to 9:34 ‘2024 average performance’ chart. I’m still hoping Newey heads to Ferrari.
What I say the Sf-24 is missing is total commitment to oversteer, which Leclerc prefers.
Next year's car will be a huge test for Hamilton's adaptability too
Like Jean Todt, Vasseur has a long term approach. He knows that Ferrari will not be world champion in 2024 or 2025. He is getting everything ready for 2026, and I would not be surprised if we see a 4 or 5 years Ferrari domination in the new regulation. My feeling is that Leclerc is going to crush Hamilton.
Ferrari is not far off at the moment.
I can see Leclerc winning in Monaco Next weekend, they certainly Will be strong judging how good they are in the slow corners.
If he does win, it Will take a massive amount of pressure off Leclerc shoulders
Why Leclerc and not Sainz?
@@kkrsnn5632 sainz is not as pressured as Charles to win a Race at the moment. Carlos won the last two races for Ferrari.
Also, Charles is in a good momentum, he is extracting everything he can for the past three or four Races, and historically, even though the results don't show it, Charles is usually pretty quick around the streets of monte Carlo.
@@stonedage5087 that's enough for a podium maybe
@@kkrsnn5632 we'll see
In light of McLaren’s progress, I can’t help but think what if the Italian, Andrea Stella had become Ferrari’s principal. Perhaps it’s best if a non-Italian is head of Ferrari
Is anyone here is paying attention to what I'm paying attention to?
Three Teams who bring massive upgrades and revisions to their get spot on, them being:
1. Mclaren
2. Ferrari
3. Alpine
What is surprising you may ask? It is that these are the only three teams whose upgrades work spot on. Why you ask? It is coz' it is only these three teams on the entire grid that can beat the F1 Budget Cap. How you ask? My answer is as follows:
1. Mclaren runs an Indy Team which is not governed by F1 Budget cap allowing them to hire technical staff under that umbrella, develop parts, especially suspension geometries and aeros. They can do so unlimitedly.
2. Ferrari and Alpine run an LMP teams in World Endurance Championships, under which they can hire technical personnel and work on just about everything including the ground effects and venturi tunnels etc. which they can do so unlimitedly as well.
Even Alpine has gained from last to mid field team after its upgrade it hasn't broken through the ranks since it's LMP car is rather technologically ordinary, hence, relatively, their improvement have been rather moderate. But where Sauber and Williams are struggling to make their upgrades works and even Aston Martin who bring massive upgrades and revisions are still lost at sea, it is Alpine who makes its upgrades work.
Teams like Mercedes, Haas, Racing Bulls and even the mighty Redbull's upgrades don't seamlessly integrate efficiently as Mclaren's, Ferrari's and Alpine's.
This is something that needs investigation.
Mclaren´Indy team is completly irrelevant for their F1 program. Is a spec series, the tracks are completly different, there is refueling, different tyre manufacturer, no floor effect aero...
More of the same for Ferrari and Alpine. Both their operations in WEC are under different organizations that have nohing to do with their F1 teams. Ferrari WEC program is under the AF Corse infraestructure, and Alpine´s under Signatech. Also the cars are completly different and share absolutly nothing in common with the F1 cars, no floor effect, different engine, different tyres, chassis... Also the cars are built for a completly different task. What you said doesnt make much sense, is like claiming that Mercedes has an advantage for their GT3 program...
They had the most downforce in Imola but couldn't take kerbs that well. Will be better on other tracks
Why is everyone thinking that Leclerc/Hamilton is a “super” lineup? There is a real possibility that it may be a downgrade from this years driver lineup.
There’s no way Hamilton is a downgrade from Sainz. 2023 is proof enough if not for the entirety of Lewis’ career.
There’s not even been 1 season so far that Sainz has been better than Hamilton. Maybe 2024 finally 😂
@@paperplane-db8qf Lewis will be another year older.
@@mcb0b1ah right, while Sainz stays the same age. I think we all forgot about that one
@@renatatostada3318 if you weren’t such a clown you would realize a year makes a big difference to someone who is in the latter years of their career, as opposed to someone who is in their prime. By your logic in 10 years Lewis will be equivalent to kimi antonelli because they both aged 10 years. But then again you are a clown using clown logic. It’s ok to accept that Lewis is getting old and won’t always be in his prime. Getting old doesn’t take away from what he has accomplished in his career.
@@paperplane-db8qf The only way a LEC/HAM duo would be a downgrade is if they clash within Ferrari. That's about egos, car development direction...
Even then, that still sounds like gasping at straws
And after 5 days the release of this video Ferrari won at monaco scoring 40 points
2:44 spot the error
Perez
Aston and Merc logos are wrong
Good spot. We'll fix!
2:38 got the Mercedes and Aston Martin mixed up there I think
Rare upload that’s not just rumor slop
Are we sure HAM is getting SAI engineer? Is this expected to be permanent or just temporary to smooth over the transition
“Why am I getting fired?”
“We are checking”
1:33 Hold up. In that graphic, did I see an overtake? Must have imagined it
Ferrari is improving fast, but I don't think it's enough. They might catch RB, but can they match McLaren's development pace? I'm not so sure they can, even if they could add Newey. McLaren just seems to know what and how to develop the car right now. If they really can eradicate the slow corner weakness and improve traction next year, they are the team I'd be most wary of.
I think the real question is between these 3 teams which one is hitting their ceiling first
Mclaren development looks crazy good but we don't know where their ceiling/peak performance is. Redbull looks like they are at their peak right now but who knows if they can manage to unlock secret potential of their car even more or not. As for Ferrari their development is less stellar than mclaren's but if they keep doing it I think they're fine
Somewhat curious as to whether or not Richarde Mille has an LH in the works for his debut with the team
06:46 you thought there was something on your screen too… didn’t you
Big Fred making the necessary changes to get Ferrari back on top... I mean as close to RB as they can get lmao
2:39 Mercedes and Aston Martin are misplaced😂😂
Vasseur is the new Jean Todt, a new era is in the making
Fred is giving me real Jean Todt vibes. This really does start to feel like Ferrari rebuilding as a team.
I love all the teams and Ferrari included but it has been painful to see them shoot the selves in the foot with odd strategy so many times. It seems to be getting better. And they have an epic Le Mans program now to which I love
This is off topic but what happened to Aston Martin at imola?
Fred not only took Toto's number one driver but also his right hand man. I guess that's karma for not backing Fred in Vegas cause you wanted those team points. Fred took Toto to the cleaners.
Where are these steady improvements you are talking about?
Ferrari seems to have issues developing the car, they always seems to start the season very well but fall way in the development race
This is quite possibly the Greatest silly season in the history of Formula One
Bozzi couldn't dream of a better debut
Dream team is getting together at Ferrari 😊😊
The answer that’s missing is mr Andy cowell (the guy who designed the original merc v6/hybrid)
Vasseur is doing an amazing job! Just shows you how much Renault/Alpine dropped the ball by choosing Arbiteboul over him back in 2016.
Very nice graphs but please don’t swap the key colours from one graph to next, has me thinking you’ve made a mistake 😂😂😂😂
HP adds are slowing Ferrari by about 5km on the straights
Its because Ferrari havent paid HP the monthly fee for the extra horse power!
@@zeberto1986 lol. Everyone is on some kind of subscription based monthly fee!
0.4 upgrade is missing
Be the best in F1 is very difficult
It's like being the best in Premier League or NBA.
Ok Ferrari is good but the other team wont let Ferrari win, and some other like Mercedes, Red Bull and McLaren are very competent teams with huge infrastructures too. Everyone has the same amount of money, the same amount of development... (or less if you're better)
Plus, everyone admit it, you need luck too. Just at the beginning of each regulations, you need luck to find the best direction of development at the very start.
Is all about engine performance at the moment. RB hybrid unit is stronger than Ferraris and that will only change in 2026.
Fred building a mega team. A new era! Get newey!
Not going to happen
@@richardashton5015Says who?
I’ve heard this story before and had my heart broken for 5 years during Sebs Ferrari run :(
Wishing Charles and Carlos the best for this special weekend! ❤ Would be great to get a double podium here! Hopefully this is the time that Monaco will love Charles back 🤞🏻 ❤🇮🇹 Forza C² ❤❤💪🏽💪🏽 💚🤍❤ Forza Ferrari! 💚🤍❤
OMG, isn't it obvious why they changed Leclerc's engineer? dude was AWFUL at his job!
"box box. stay out, stay out" "we're checking" that's all you need to fire that man.
Ferrari had to check first...
Fred and Charles talked I'm sure in private, over dinner on one of their yachts lets be honest. and Fred made the right choice. "we are checking" and all the other bullshit was not good enough.
They're not going to compete until they go pull rod front, push rod rear.
In Fred we trust
Interesting D’Ambrosio is becoming 2IC at Ferrari. Seeing as he was a driver in the Ferrari academy in the past.
Man, I wish I'd made a comment about all the preseason ferrari hype and how after six races or so there would be a "where did all Ferrari's pace go" episode...
Man, i hope Ferrari stay in your head all season, Rent Free.....
Sara sara. You go boy.
McLaren have really changed the picture behind red bull now
5 days… it was missing 5 days to victory.
I think what got Xavi booted was the “original line” radio to Leclerc in China. Definitely the straw that broke the camel’s back
Don't know why but " if you don't keep improving in f1 you're dead" made me laugh for some reason 😂
Vasseur’s Ferrari will win.
If Fred manages to turn Ferrari around, he’ll go down as a legendary Team Principal.
I trust Ferrari, they actually are able to improve without upgrades, last year the run after monza is a sign of that
Real ones know that this is a reupload
Loic was signed before Hamilton
So where is their revolution?
Ferrari: We're checking. We'll come back to you.
Very interested to see if the SF-24 EVO has been better understood by the time we reach Monaco and if they can fully optimise what they’ve got because an obvious weak spot currently is firing up the tyres in qualifying trim.
Ferrari often have bad first weekends with major upgrades. Spain last year was pretty much a disaster. But Canada was where the season turned around.
Silly season prediction: Newey to Andretti!
Ooh oh! I know this one! Lewis Hamilton and Adrian Newey are currently missing!
Red Bull vs McLaren vs Ferrari and Mercedes in beetwen them and the midfield, all the same like in 2010
Mercedes wasn't in the mix in 2010
I wish him success, but I still doubt if Hamilton brings anything Leclerc doesn't.
Doesn’t matter. It only matters if Hamilton brings something that Sainz doesn’t.
@@Leith_Crowther Yes, like infighting between two really close drivers. That is always great.
@@andyknuckles2903I expect another season like when Charlie joined vettle. That didn't go well.
Man, with these power chords of Ferrari in slow corners, Monaco has to be Ferrari 1-2.
2:38 mercedes & AM graph colours incorrect. Great video otherwise!
How do Ferrari afford this engineers under the cost cap? If all teams are at the limit then how do you afford more and better engineers?
After mclaren woooped em in Italy.
Vasseur will make Ferrari a championship winning team.
0:34 is paying homage to an internet meme?
2025-2026 is going to be the turning point for Ferrari and F1. The golden age is back 💯
There's a glock in Vasseur's 'rari
When the red bull performance is 100.000%
what's missing? Lewis Hamiton
an engine with split turbo
The horse
Scott, please stop shouting at me. You guys have great content but there's no need to shout about it. I know you can talk normally like the others. Kind regards