@@didsomeoneaskforanegg2168 how I bought a boxx yes it takes a long time but how is that a scam and he plays fox do idk why he I boing to you if you don't like watching him don't we don't need toxic melee people who complain about ppl being "boring fox is a fliping high tier
I loved how both their eyes lit up when they went for the handshake. Also Hax$ is such a good sportsman. Legit Hax and mango have two of the best mentalities out of everyone in the building, so it was so nice to see them have such a good set, have fun, and have mad respect for each other and nothing but good-natured comments when it was done.
That set was an absolute banger. Some crazy high level stuff happening. It's awesome how pretty much every set I've watched at this summit has been crazy. But, you know, melee is DeAd
mostly for discussion As Mango and Hax said, Hax's Fox has one of the worst DI in Fsmash as seen in: 1:11, 2:24, 3:13, 3:44, 4:15, 9:55, 10:33, 11:13, and those were only fsmashs, I'm not even counting backairs and tilts. Which makes me wonder about the disadvantages of the B0xx, not as a bad product but limited by the design of it; as Hax said "i only have 8 directions" so I wonder if it is the limitation of the B0xx or Hax still needs to improve, or the both. Even Hbox said it that in order to hit those angles you have to press like 4 buttons at a time, on reaction. So, any randy fsmash is a disadvantage for B0xx user? what about Hitbox Smashbox users? Is Smashbox better than the B0xx in this regard given its extra modifiers? (Because you can do some crazy tech on the B0xx as shown by Hax, but it wont matter if you can't DI properly) I guess will have to see.
the "bad di is intentional. gives mang0 less time to cover since hax can still recover with side b in many of the timestamps. thats what i think at least
I bought a box it's great you can perform insane frame perfect techniques especially peach with her insane frame perfect back airs you should chk it out
Same way you get different firefox angles. Theres modifier buttons to give you +30 degrees, +15 degrees, +7 degrees. Theoretically you could get 64 different angles from 6 buttons although you prolly want to map it differently for convenience.
Mango missed that last tech on purpose 😂😂 Hax immediately fkn RAN and grabbed to where he thought Mango was gonna tech in place or get up attack 😂😂 too clean from the GOAT. Genuis play
Smash Ultimate The B0XX. Its hax$ own controller. Its like The hitbox but way thinner and weights less. It has a better button layout too. It looks very cool. Only downside is that it sells for like 200$
Watching mango here makes me feel better about my Falco. He doesn't challenge alot of fox pressure and I've been feeling like you can't a lot of the time
Cody Ratcliffe yeah he plays it a lot more honest most falcos will opt to spot dodge or try something dumb to beat fox shield pressure. Mango usually just wavedashes out and resets the situation.
I do feel for hax with his hand issues, but it does seem like the box gives you some serious advantages. I know some things are nerfed on it, but i sorta feel like the integrity of the game is being somewhat compromised. Sorry to any boxx users :/ its just how i feel. I do want to see hax continue his melee career though, so yeh.
Integrity of the game? Just enforce UCF lol The game never had integrity to begin with considering how wildly different controllers would behave and plenty of players switched to using controller notches. The B0XX is not a problem.
that Mang0 handshake like
"maximum respect"
Glad to see you back Hax$. Hope you're having a great time. The community missed you.
He's always been in people just not peeping it
i wish he would leave again, by far the most boring top player and also scams people out of money via the box
did someone ask for an egg? Explain cuz that sounds bullshit
@@didsomeoneaskforanegg2168 how I bought a boxx yes it takes a long time but how is that a scam and he plays fox do idk why he I boing to you if you don't like watching him don't we don't need toxic melee people who complain about ppl being "boring fox is a fliping high tier
@@didsomeoneaskforanegg2168 lol how is he boring? his fox is maybe the most exciting fox to watch lol
This set and Zain Vs Axe were the most intense sets so far imo
Hacktendo64 dude so many of these sets are intense
I loved how both their eyes lit up when they went for the handshake. Also Hax$ is such a good sportsman.
Legit Hax and mango have two of the best mentalities out of everyone in the building, so it was so nice to see them have such a good set, have fun, and have mad respect for each other and nothing but good-natured comments when it was done.
"Hax is SCARY, look at his face!"
"yeahhh that's just his face."
Lovage's face at 7:21 LMAO
Nawa thank you lol I was wanting to remember this timestamp after I finished the set. Hilarious
“Ugh I wish I was watching peach puff”
I agree with Hax. One of the best sets I've seen them play together. Really close and they both had good and bad moments.
7:17 one of the coolest stock endings I've seen... I've never really been a big Fox fan, but Hax is makin' me into a believer
so good to hax playing at top level again, genuinely makes me happy
there's just so much melee left to be played
That set was an absolute banger. Some crazy high level stuff happening. It's awesome how pretty much every set I've watched at this summit has been crazy. But, you know, melee is DeAd
Hax$ is an OG dude is humble.
mostly for discussion
As Mango and Hax said, Hax's Fox has one of the worst DI in Fsmash as seen in: 1:11, 2:24, 3:13, 3:44, 4:15, 9:55, 10:33, 11:13, and those were only fsmashs, I'm not even counting backairs and tilts.
Which makes me wonder about the disadvantages of the B0xx, not as a bad product but limited by the design of it; as Hax said "i only have 8 directions" so I wonder if it is the limitation of the B0xx or Hax still needs to improve, or the both.
Even Hbox said it that in order to hit those angles you have to press like 4 buttons at a time, on reaction. So, any randy fsmash is a disadvantage for B0xx user? what about Hitbox Smashbox users? Is Smashbox better than the B0xx in this regard given its extra modifiers? (Because you can do some crazy tech on the B0xx as shown by Hax, but it wont matter if you can't DI properly) I guess will have to see.
I'm sure he'll find a way to adjust
the "bad di is intentional. gives mang0 less time to cover since hax can still recover with side b in many of the timestamps. thats what i think at least
Holy fuck past tense that was the best spacies set I’ve ever seen. My two fav players
This set was so scary... edge of my seat the entire time
The way mango wrapped up his controller after the set. It just spoke to me.
This set was insane. Just insane
Insane that it’s getting normal for spacies to be this optimal yet we still have falcon, marth, pikachu winning tournaments
I'm really hoping Hax$ will make a sick losers run. He's put in a lot of work, and he's been looking smooth. Winning a major would be huge for him.
damn that was close... Hax is doing great this tournament
The pinnacle of Fox vs Falco !!!
When did Hax started using a pad and why is he looking so quick? Welcome back Hax.
The b0xx, and shortly after he designed it to save his hands.
I bought a box it's great you can perform insane frame perfect techniques especially peach with her insane frame perfect back airs you should chk it out
"Cant d.i. on the box" and hax$ is crushing.
The Machine vs The Experience
The respect ♡
I enjoyed this set very entertaining haxs fox is so quick
How does one subtle DI on BOXX
he does it nonchalantly
you actually can't, but he can basically do no-di+insane SDI to get a similar effect
Same way you get different firefox angles. Theres modifier buttons to give you +30 degrees, +15 degrees, +7 degrees. Theoretically you could get 64 different angles from 6 buttons although you prolly want to map it differently for convenience.
He says it in the end you cant di on the box only has 8 directions
@@NoteFlakez it was a half joke, but b0xx di is more limited than controller di
Fox definetly has some cheese in this matchup. That was a great set it was mango vs Leffen on crack
Without the cheese falco wins easy
Giovanni that is true. If both players are playing honest Falco wins with cheese 50/50
Mango missed that last tech on purpose 😂😂 Hax immediately fkn RAN and grabbed to where he thought Mango was gonna tech in place or get up attack 😂😂 too clean from the GOAT. Genuis play
Best Set So Far
7:18 holy jeezus sh
Hax is scary bro
what controller is hax using?
Smash Ultimate The B0XX. Its hax$ own controller. Its like The hitbox but way thinner and weights less. It has a better button layout too. It looks very cool. Only downside is that it sells for like 200$
I don't get how the smash hitbox could feel good for such a vertical game. Especially since the smash one doesn't have a joystick
Hax$ starting in this vid looking like Steven Hawking lmao
Amazing set
Why is the game audio so low every summit?
That set was nasty.
How many fsmashes did mang0 hit ?!
Hax has a very good game plan, but it can seem predictable. Seems like Mango can't challenge anything Hax near the ledge.
One of the best sets of all time
Watching mango here makes me feel better about my Falco. He doesn't challenge alot of fox pressure and I've been feeling like you can't a lot of the time
Cody Ratcliffe yeah he plays it a lot more honest most falcos will opt to spot dodge or try something dumb to beat fox shield pressure. Mango usually just wavedashes out and resets the situation.
THE two legends
Hax fucking $ looking good. Hope he makes top 10 this year
When they play together i always don't take them seriously because i always think they just play for fun when these two play.
#BanLeffen
a lot of spaghetti you can tell that was top tier specie play
why was haxx allowed to go back to bf after winning there
Mang0 might just like it
Who does the art for this shit?
I do feel for hax with his hand issues, but it does seem like the box gives you some serious advantages. I know some things are nerfed on it, but i sorta feel like the integrity of the game is being somewhat compromised. Sorry to any boxx users :/ its just how i feel. I do want to see hax continue his melee career though, so yeh.
the dude can't DI lol, how much do you want him to nerf it
Integrity of the game? Just enforce UCF lol The game never had integrity to begin with considering how wildly different controllers would behave and plenty of players switched to using controller notches. The B0XX is not a problem.
good set yoo
This gave me a panic attack
Hax could use some more up smashes
I have never seen anyone use a FIGHTSTICK in MELEE
He does it because of an injury to his hand, look up his company and stort !
Oh I hope his hand gets better
@@noodlenugget7427 It's permanent, unfortunately. He literally played his hand tendons to nothingness doing all those 20XX techs hahaha
20XX isn’t a joke hahaha
Mango just should've used his secondaries and he would have deetroyed.
Let's go hax!
Hax$ is nutty
I really wanted Hax to win this :(
This is melee to me
I believe Fox-Falco is true 50-50.
Btw Melee is all about the friends we made along the way! 💯
41% xD
Maaaan, hax earned this Set so much
20XX
HAX PLAYS WITH AN ARCADE STICK??? NANI
nope. he presses dedicated directional buttons, there is no traditional movement stick, more like keyboard
HaX$ is an android now
Mango definitely threw this match
Hax getting carried by his character with these shine spikes
0:09 Hax looks like Stephen Hawking when he plays.
"I can't DI on the Boxx. I only have 8 directions" Uh.... so... you can DI then?
Ur dumb
one of the best sets of all time