Pink Floyd - Roger Waters & David Gilmour interview 1984
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- Audio interview with Roger Waters & David Gilmour 10-22-84. The Inside Track interview with Lisa Robinson. Interesting to have interviews from this era, with the competing solo albums and all, Enjoy.
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Ouch... 1984 and she calls David 'Barrett replacement David Gilmour'.... that's cold man...
"'Barrett replacement David Gilmour'.... that's cold man..." Sure is, "Fat Old Sun" isn't "Astronomy Domine."
UpAndDown or wish you were here, animals, the wall, division Bell, etc.
Well... she isn’t wrong.
LOL, I i didn't listen to much, did she call him that to his FACE? Because thats tactless. No, its not wrong, but technically Roger as lyricist is a Barrett replacement as well.
David was good friends with Barrett, pre-Floyd so that comment didnt cut. Barrett’s mental departure was something everyone saw, Gilmore went in as a crutch. I tend to like Gilmores “Pink Floyd” better than Barretts, although I realize its an unfair shit situation. In some parallel universe Barrett didnt go bananas and Floyd got just as big... someday we will get to hear it.
It´s interesting how members of Pink Floyd felt as though Waters was slowly taking control over the band after Darkside, while Waters felt like the others were letting him do all the work. Like in many cases, this whole situation seems to have stemmed from simple communication errors, and might have been entirely avoidable, had they just openly talked about their feelings; something both Waters and Gilmour would write about at some point in their career, but failed to enforce at the time.
Which is funny that the last album's concept would be about communication and re-connection.
Like with married couples in crisis. It's always the same...
Yes, they're far greater together than the sum of their parts.
It's funny he said that he thinks he's been a bit lazy in pink floyd. That's what roger thought about the others, but that was in Roger's eyes.
Talk about feelings? Omg.. that's not the English way!:)
Excellent interview, lots to unpick:
- props to the interviewer: Lisa Robinson. She prodded in a tender motherly fashion which got Rog/Dave to open up.
- it's true that Roger (then as now) isn't as venerated a songwriter as Paul McCartney, Elton John or the rest. But the simple reason is that his work is challenging...challenging art doesn't rise to the top, nor should it.
- Roger referencing Culture Club's success as proof that 'the Machine is winning' is confirmed moments later when Lisa promoted her next interview with: "...and Boy George will talk about his thousand hair-styles!". Nowadays, image is serious business for musicians.
- Dave is fair & diplomatic as ever, even admitting his "laziness" was a main reason Roger wrote most of the music, thereby Roger is deserving of most of the critical praise. But he's also got a point that his own contributions were still vital. Roger's solo albums are good, but they're not Pink-Floyd-Good. On the flipside, the Rogerless Floyd albums are miles away from the epic high-end quality we got from 1967-1983 (yes, including Final Cut).
- also interesting was how precisely Dave knew how many weeks (and since when) DSotM had been in the charts. A lot of sources, including the band, say that was the last true group effort before Roger's vision took over.
It's safe to say that Dave & Rog (with Rick & Nick) needed each other to make what we know and love to be Pink Floyd music. Without Roger, it's just watered-down. With Roger but without Dave, we'd end up with too much naval-gazing introspection.
In the end, that 1967-1983 period has left us with arguably the strongest discography in music (of any genre or era). For that the boys should be very proud x
I think Waters and Gilmour needed each other, though they might be reluctant to admit it - Waters needed Gilmour's musicianship, Gilmour needed Waters' songs. And y'know what, they produced some great work together (along with Wright and Mason of course) while it lasted; by the end their worldviews were too different and they could no longer work together, but that's just life.
They may have been reluctant to admit either interdependence but they knew about it , The personal relationship got so bad they had to split and knew they would have to make the best of it ,
Roger Waters hasn't really had a good record since he left Floyd, he peaked at wish you were here, in my opinion. Pink Floyd did make good music without Roger. He's a bass player, he's replaceable. David Gilmour and Rick Wright were the Pink Floyd sound.
Roger Waters is an insufferable creep, that's according to everyone who has ever worked with him or had to be around him for very long.
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Sure , but not those I know, Stupid gossip from the mediocre -- He was genial not mediocre and that is often unpopular because such do not feel duty bound to please the gossipy groups people, And the mediocre get very cross when crossed.. All must bow to the mob as they do , Roger was the driver and got the work done ,Enough of this bullshit about him.. No not a peoples person , So bloody what , They are creeps who creep around each other ,
@@kevanbodsworth4817 By virtually all accounts, Roger is a controlling, manipulative guy, really mistreats people. He kicked Syd out of the band. Then he kicked Rick Wright out of the band. Then he quit. Then he sued David Gilmour and Nick Mason over their use of Pink Floyd. They are Pink Floyd. He's a bass player. He's not a good person. He's bigoted and deluded and he always has a conspiracy theory that is easily debunked, like he supports the Assad regime's use of chemical weapons on women and children, he's a radical Marxist. David Gilmour is more like just a regular British guy, more of a man's man.
rick wright is so under rated
@@derrickfoote1961 what you said 👆👆👆
@@derrickfoote1961 Are you gay?
...well if he's wants to get Un, underrated, he's just going to have to get in Line. ..behind Ringo.
No matter what happened to the band,one thing i´m sure of and its that,in my opinion,these guys were perfect musicians,very intelligent and creative.I only wish that Syd was still around too... I love pink floyd and all of their work!! Thanks for posting this interview
i get the feeling something like this would've happened. Because Syd wasn't a really huge lead player. 68/69 the Stones, Hendrix, Beatles, they were all going in a more lead/blues guitar direction, and Syd wasn't really tailor made for that type of stuff, he was way more Keith Richards. You bet they would've found their "Mick Taylor" with Gilmour. It would've been pretty cool as a five piece, and I'm willing to bet it would've happened, Syd's mental breakdown or not.
Sid is still around , he's just fucked in the head that's what smack does to you
Hi
@@themadmattster9647hendrixx beatles bowie even page all admired syds guitar skills he played odd and like no one ever before. You can say syd wasn't made for this or that that's cool but we are talking about a pioneer of a multitude of genres.
No Rick Wright,no Pink Floyd. Thanks for the memories.
CY KODELIA or nick!
what a 'simple comment.
No Waters, No Pink Floyd
No GILMOUR no Mason no Roger no RICK no PINK FLOYD
IMBRIAGON
No fan.... no pink floyd
Gilmour and Waters both have transcending genius. Here there's no room for the McCartney vs. Lennon type of dichotomy. They're both fantastic and influential artists with unique styles. I'm grateful for having the chance to enjoy their material together and separate. There is no way to describe the legacy of Pink Floyd. We're to close to the facts to appreciate it and their solo materials are both culturally, politically and aesthetically relevant today.
"Here there's no room for the McCartney vs. Lennon type of dichotomy." It's an inappropriate comparison because Gilmour wrote so much less than Waters. McCartney is another Lennon, Waters is another Lennon, Gilmour is another Clapton.
Lennon and McCartney were just fine for a couple of guys locked in rooms studios and transport together for eight years .Couldn´t move in public , Only thier brotherhood got them through that .
@@thebrazilianatlantis165 What about a comparison to Townsend and Daltry?
@@thebrazilianatlantis165 I would say McCartney is more like Gilmour, Waters is more like Lennon
I love them all so much. Roger and David are so great together. But, egos get in the way often in the music industry. We live and learn. I yearn to see them both at peace with each other and again friends.
Bro. They were never friends. They were always business partners. Not friends. They just worked well together but in time, without friendship, their business relationship broke since waters couldn’t calm down relide only on his ego.
@foxdavani4091 Um, they were still friends up until Dark Side came, that's when success got in the way.
They wrote their fate even way before it happened - "And when the band you're in starts playing different tune, I'll see you on the Dark Side of The Moon".
Not one like DG.......God's guitarist.
I love Roger more then any of the others, hes a master artist with a vision.
Me too❤
This split was necessary. I like how this interview is so truthful. The Floyd were falling apart. I find though that Roger in this and other interviews was the most honest. Here David admits he was lazy and not part of the projects. And that is something Roger admitted was going on since DSOTM, hence the Floyd was becoming a Waters band, because he was the driven member. Many record execs and engineers are in agreement that this was happening. Rock and Roll s seems to head that way sometimes, think CCR, Roxy Music, etc. The Pink Floyd Wars were brutal and David was most nasty in his comments in Musician magazine about Waters' musical contributions and capability. Today some of those nasty b.s. comments live on with Gilmour fans. Remember David saying Roger was a passenger on the PF vehicle? Yikes. That was nasty. Time has shown the comments are not truthful and just spiteful. It is sad, because, once again these two men are on friendly terms and that is the best way to end the saga. I wish Roger Waters fans would embrace David Gilmour's solo music and David Gilmour fans would embrace Roger Waters solo music. The fans still have more healing to do if they can't do this.
A bit late but your dead right about fan's being divided,Even down here in NZ Pink Floyd music was a big part of our lives,Having been in a band playing guitar we (us guitar players) tend to lean towards DG being the one given the raw deal,We always assumed RW was the ass and didn't contribute much to the bands success,BUT thanks to the internet I've been watching numerous interviews with both men and HEY PRESTO i find RW to be quite brilliant and giving some of the best interviews Ive seen ever,As well as mostly writing the whole of DSOTM and 99 percent of TW,Good to see them back talking in the end as well,Rock on !!!
I think it's sad really, my friends who are also Floyd fans don't dare talk about their work after The Wall due to the fact it usually starts an argument. Some friends are Waters disciples and believe The Final Cut was the greatest album ever and won't even acknowledge or listen to the latter records, while others are true Gilmour people and think Roger Waters is egotistical psychopath with daddy issues. Personally I try to keep an open mind, I truly think Roger was the true creative force, DSOTM on, but Floyd's work after Roger is just as good. While The Division Bell is one of my favorites, The Final Cut I detest. I'd also like to say while Roger may have been the creative force, in a question of "Which one's Pink?," only two people come to my mind and that was Syd and Rick. Both of their sounds were so distinct, it's too bad they're gone. Rick may not have written the music later on, but Roger could never produce Rick's brooding, intense, keyboard sounds. Roger Waters can only be one man, Roger Waters.
Roger and David's fans constantly at war with one another; kind of reminds of Rafa, Fed and Nole fans.
Before these legends pass I really hope that David and Roger can put aside their differences and just stay as friends.
I ❤️ Pink Floyd. Both Dave and Rog were as important each other for the chemistry of this great band.
Man. This is a gem. These guys made history.
I love David Gilmour.
01:47 - Roger / Playing live as a solo act > No future for Pink Floyd
03:06 - Roger / Pros & Cons album
04:06 - Roger / The Final Cut album
05:22 - Roger / Visuals & stage production
07:31 - Roger / Press, reputation and music business
09:09 - Roger / Rock music
09:32 - Roger / Pros & Cons Tour
11:00 - David / The Final Cut & working relationship with Roger
13:26 - David / Solo career
15:09 - David / Working ethic
16:50 - David / Having fun while performing solo & PF music
17:29 - David / Feelings about how his work is perceived
18:45 - David / Audience & success
20:12 - David / Dark Side Of The Moon
21:27 - David / Difference between solo music & Pink Floyd's
22:33 - David / Touring & rock'n'roll lifestyle in 1984
David Gilmour bends wires as well as Roger Waters writes lyrics !
Thank you. The combination is always what makes any band even decent, let alone so great as Pink Floyd.
Can you believe this was 33 years ago ? I remember buying the wall in 1980, it was one of the first albums I ever bought, and cost a lot back then. We listened to PF at school. You would never hear band interviews back then, I did not even know what they looked like. Now Floyd are all over RUclips. At the time we never knew what was going on, they just faded out after the Wall. Thank you YT
Yeah, that song was an anthem when we were at school. I think even Roger joked that the band could go on forever because nobody knew what they looked like. Thats why I liked prog bands, they clearly were in it for the music. Genesis never even appeared on a cover. They didn't quite fade away though, I remember when momentary lapse of reason came out because 'learning to fly' was a huge single, again, never had the band in the video. And I remember listening to Amused to Death and being blown away, the lyrics and music had no floyd feel but it was incredibly powerful and really stands as a work of political art for me. THEN they faded away.
speak for yourself . i hungrily devoured everything i could find . i taped all the interviews and attended all the shows- perfectly aware of the situation on my way to see RW first solo show on july 28th 1984 . since then i have not missed s single RW tour and i have also seen the DG version of pf -no comment . i find it frustrating , as a fan to see people constantly attack roger but these are not real fans . these people are clueless . i stole and hid my first copy of the wall which was destroyed by a parent when they discovered it btw . i was in fifth grade .
I can't imagine not knowing what they were like, especially listening to the core albums. What was it like to rehear them as you uncovered their personalities and the tension history between D and R? And what was the story on Syd in the 80s?
A classic example of "A band is a sum of it's parts". Take one member out of the "classic line up", and it just didn't have the same colour. All are relevant, but it's when all 4 came together that the sparks flew, and the magic happened.
Roger became the guy who wrote 90% of the material. Of course, anyone in that position will feel more important than the others who aren't coming up with enough ideas.
Just the lyrics. Roger couldn't even play bass on hey you
Yeah the band still did most of the instrumental parts, and Roger would then just write the lyrics
Says who? He plays bass on all kinds of old floyd songs. Unless he hired somebody, which he accused them of doing on MLR, he managed when he started a new band. I find it hard to believe that playing hundreds of gigs for well over a decade that he couldn't play bass.
@@mikearchibald744 After the Final Cut Waters never recorded a half decent song. Not one. Wonder why? David was the one who was able to take Rogers lyrics and ideas and mold them into brilliant creations. Along with Rick. Roger was a total lunatic during this period. And I think he now admits it.
@@MrCheetah440 Well, thats certainly only your opinion. Its pretty subjective to state not only what a decent song is but a half decent song.
I don't think ANYBODY ranks The Final Cut as even much of a Pink Floyd album, and fewer could even name a song on it.
For my part I think MOST of Amused to Death had far better songs than MOST Pink Floyd songs.
But even pink floyd admits that in latter albums the producer was almost another member of the band, certainly 'wish you were here' was cut in New York, Waters AND Gilmour admit they didn't see the final tracks before they went out.
And I find individual songs on Radio KAOS better than MUCH of Pink Floyd. There is no way they are not 'half decent' songs, I'd rank them as excellent but in most cases they didn't sound like Pink Floyd. Although like with Pink Floyd, sometimes each campe went SO far to try to recreate what they had lost with the other member that they sound pretty close. Pink Floyd even hired writers they thought could SOUND like Roger. Apart from 'Learning to Fly', A Delicate SOund of Thunder has a lot of pretty bleak songs on it.
But I've done the critical 'music theory' thing on both recently so am not going to again, but its certainly pretty subjective to state that he never wrote a half decent song in the three albums he did after (assuming you aren't talking about the opera). But to each their own.
This is one of the rarest interviews ever! It captures the split of the band. You could see how; Waters had come up with the ideas since Dark Side and was trying to make sure everything will go smoothly. You can't say Waters was the bad guy because he was driving everyone, and not all members were giving the full cooperation as equals in the band. But Waters has now admitted that he was wrong to attack Gilmour for continuing with the Floyd when he himself wanted to stop. Still, Waters-driven Floyd produced that best work among all band work and solo works, so we should be lucky the split came at a relatively late time.
they weren't giving their full cooperation because they didn't want to do another album that sounded like The Wall and less inferior . Division Bell and Momentary Laps of Reason is way better then The Final Cut and Roger had nothing to do with those two albums. Don't get me wrong, I love Roger and his lyrics but Gilmour's music is so much better for the most part.
Abonanno24601 Sorry but i think MLOR is one of the worst albums that recorded under Pink Floyd label. except 2 or 3 tracks, rest of songs are shameful (sorry but its my idea). DB is much better with wright spirit in the songs but i don't like the way Waters did it too.
I'll guaranty that songs like Learning to Fly, On the Turning Way, and The Dogs of War, people will remember still 30 years from now. People aren't going to remember The Post War Dream, The Hero's Return.... As a matter off fact, I had to Google those titles because I couldn't tell you the name of a single song on The Final Cut. I've listened to the album, just none of the song title stick out. As a matter of fact, the only song I do remember from The Final Cut is When the Tigers Broke Free and why.............Because it was in the movie The Wall.
May be it's because of the nature of the Final Cut. I think its more looks like a very big song than a compilation of separate tracks. by myself, i never heard Gilmour ever better than his art work in solo parts of Fletcher memorial home an Final cut (song i mean). so back to MLOR, there are some very good tracks (learning ti fly and sorrow and On the turning away), Some good tracks (Like Dogs of war or signs of life) and some really bad tracks (like Yet another movie or One slip and A new machine (this one is shameful)). Now look back in cataloug if Pink Floyd songs. In Roger Waters era they had average tracks like A pillow of wind or Pigs on the wing but they never as bad as those songs.
Mahan Abbasi Ahvazi well the nature of the Floyd has always been making music that is 'universal", both the lyrics and the music tell a story while carrying each other at the same time. 'The Final Cut' is to personal, where as everyone can relate to building a wall, or the themes of 'Dark Side" or the absence of "Wish You Were Here", and even the subltle critique of the capitlaistic society in 'Animals'. AMLOR and 'The Division Bell', Gilmour did his best to bring back those universal themes, set to very dreamy music.
Brilliant Interviews of Dave and Roger. These men will be legends of music of their era for eternity regarding their work and contributions. The breakdown of Pink Floyd should not be judged but the amazing music they produced for our listening enjoyment is to be ever applauded.
When a band member declares that they are the band...nuff said.
*Being so famous is something that would test the soul of anyone.* It's a testament to each member of any band that manages to keep things somewhat civil. That's not making excuses, that's just an observation of reality, and a sideways pointing out that were any one of us in such a position, we would struggle with it as well. Just as the unseen have a different struggle that is just as real on a mental and emotional level, although physically more difficult to manage, but less egotistically challenging.
I think Bill Murray said that when you get famous you have about six months of being an asshole, and at that point you either develop some humility or it stays permanent.
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I think the final cut totally sounds like a Floyd album. David's guitar playing is unmistakable. His four solo albums all sound like solo albums but I think the final cut totally sounds like a floyd album. Then again it's all floyd to me
I have to listen to it again, I think it sounded more like Waters, and I even thought there seemed to be a lot less guitar work in there, but I remember a conversation where a guy was saying there was tons of it in there. All I remember is REALLY not liking it. But I really liked there long drawn out music, which definitely seemed to end withe Waters and THe Cut.
The Final Cut should have been a Roger Waters solo album. The others never made any contributions into the song writing and the album sounds like a poor sequel to The Wall. Some of the Final Cut is left over material from The Wall and David made the point that, "if it wasn't good enough then, why is it good enough now". Roger couldn't wait to get away from the band during the Final Cut.
@@70ad25 Yeah, there's a reason that lots of people don't even TALK about it being a pink floyd album.
@@mikearchibald744 The solos on that album are TRANSCENDENT... His tone and phrasing are jaw dropping. It's actually quite mind boggling to think about how little regard he has for his own work on that record.
I think it sounds like crap! I've tried to like this album for decades, just never grew on me.
Excellent interviewer I have to say. She managed to asked essential questions and quite personal/artistical and tricky. considering the situation at the time. without sounding too pushy. well done ! That really helps understanding the shift in the band and the lack of motivation about making music , being in a "big" group with all the pressure it creates
Maybe Roger should have played all the guitar and keyboard parts, then I'd say it was Roger's band.
and in fact the reverse is often true. Most of the more interesting bass parts (hey you, all of animals) were actually Gilmour.
For real, Roger struggles transitioning from a D chord to G chord cleanly when he plays live lol
If you have ever been in a band which wants to produce its own material then the initiator is what every groups looks for and prays for ,Without that you can have brilliant musicians and you get nothing very much .. David said they were at an end after Syd, desperate and quote " Roger started coming up with some really good songs and we were back in business," ,, Ask any band not just doing covers, .
Yes, you nailed it ,
@@patrickrasmussen2666 If you were at (now hear online) the 74 / 77 live gigs, wat you hae put there is patently absurd nonsense!
Ha, "Nicky" Mason.
@Hugh Jones Ha, their was great band of all time
Come to think of it, have a Heinecken.
*Heineken
Come to think of it, even with help of plenty Heiniken this is still hardly bearable.
I agree with Gilmour, The Final Cut is sub-standard album. Roger was a great leader, but he didn't made good music without Dave and Rick. Rick was very undervalued by Roger in my opinion.
+Marco Mascarino The Wall wasn't good?
The Wall was the last album with Waters/Gilmour partnership. The best songs are Confortably Numb and Run like Hell in my opinion, both written by Gilmour/Waters
+Marco Mascarino if you've read the back story on why Rick was let go from the band, you might understand Rogers logic behind it. Rick had gotten hooked on cocaine and it was showing in his work during the recording of The Wall. Roger gave him the benefit of the doubt and allowed him to rejoin the band for the tour of that album. In my opinion, he probably saved the mans life by firing him because he did kick that habit as a result.
+MydirtyRat1 That's true from what I know, but I don't think it was the end of the cocaine :D Supposedly Rick and Dave were both doing it throughout the 1987 tour and his wife Polly helped him get clean. There was an interview I watched with Waters about how Rick Wright was holding onto pieces of music instead of contributing which ended up on his Wet Dreams solo album. Waters said something like "I'm sure Rick at least had a few chord sequences we could've used but he saved them to use on his own". He was either referring to Animals or The Wall I can't remember which.
MydirtyRat1 I read about Rick problems with cocaine during The Wall. I mean that David mentioned many times Rick's great contribution on Pink Floyd's sound. Did Roger mention Rick as well?
LOL @ 10:30. Roger Waters says "Wish You Were Here" has "improved considerably". If you haven't heard _Pros and Cons_ (1984-85) or _KAOS_ (1987-88) bootlegs, you wouldn't know, but he actually wrote more parts to the song. He over-wrote it, IMO. Then in 1999 he started working back towards the original version, and settled there in 2008.
He also re-wrote the chords to "Pigs on the Wing" and "If" on those 80s tours. I have no idea why. Those songs didn't need rewriting, but he did it anyway. I'm not in love with every idea the man's ever had, y'know.
I thought he did all those changes in some classics like "Wish you Were Here" during the RADIO KAOS tour because of copyright issues.
is there any pink floyd related place on the internet that you havent commented on, ben? youre an insufferable elitist.
Ha! I love the part where you hear the guy fast-forwarding through the commercials.
I was wondering if ANYONE else noticed that….
Obviously an editor either fell asleep or simply stopped caring…..
Not EXACTLY a "Waters & Gimour interview", more like "Waters and Gimour Interviews"...
This problem is the same as the one that caused such gigantic division America. If you went to a public school in 1970's America, by the sixth grade your linguistic literacy was easily as higher than the average high school graduate, and commonly better than the average college graduate now. This is because beginning under the Reagan administration, our schools were turned into a profitable business. How can people even discern if a politician is even literate if they themselves cannot understand what's being said all that clearly?
David is a very smart man
Pink Floyd was a total sum of its parts. No one member “made” the band. Like Led Zeppelin, each member was a master musician and together, made masterpieces. The ingredients were perfect together.
Thanks for the video! Shine On!
Every Pink Floyd album is different from the previous one. The only Pink Floyd album of the 15 albums that stands out as not having that Pink Floyd sound is the Final Cut, and that is because it is the only one without Rick Wright.
I was unaware until recently that apparently in an attempt to pacify the rest of the members of the Floyd who were unhappy with the album, Roger offered to release it as a solo album instead, but they refused. In his words "knowing that songs don't grow on trees".
6 years later, but it was held as a bargaining chip, not really done as an attempt to pacify with the rest of the band.
@@MarceloKatayama Source? Or conjecture?
@@lapelcelery42 Source: ruclips.net/video/XET9oftCfeU/видео.html minute 10:40
But it simply is pure logical analysis. Which one is more likely, Roger holding the album hostage to get a desperate band to do what he wants with the album, or him doing it to pacify things, when it would be more profitable to release it under pink Floyd's name and they were all swimming in debt?
@@MarceloKatayama That's not a source - he isn't providing any evidence either, and he's talking about the Wall album, not the Final Cut. There wasn't any bargaining about it anyway - Roger had written an album, no one else had written anything, and he offered them either the chance to record his album, or he'd make it himself. There was no bargaining about it, he was giving them the full choice.
@@lapelcelery42 I made the mistake of assuming you meant the wall, instead of the final cut.
David Voice is as good a his guitar 😃😂😄😃😂
I was on that show in stockholm with Pros and cons.but i cant remember that it was the first show on the tour. I remeber that i loved it. Very interesting to here this interview.
Imagine Pink Floyd without David Gilmour or without Roger Waters ,both they made it complete not to forget Richard Wright and Nick Mason
Whatever your thoughts on Roger and David, I hope people can agree that Lisa Robinson sucks in both of these interviews, looking to rile them up, and sensationalizing rumors.
I cannot. She was a product of the same thing that caused the rift between Dave and Roger. The emphasis of art and media being geared towards money and commercial success. This is clearly the most major component of the rift in Pink Floyd, and Lisa is having to cater to her own ratings show as an interviewer. I don't like what she's doing in some cases, but the blame is less hers than the system that finances this.
Just like the way certain instrumentalists are grossly underpaid and less respected for their equal contributions. Someone who writes the vocal melody for instance gets grossly overpaid as compared with the person that wrote a bass line or drum parts for instance. And yet all are equally valid contributions to the whole. And then there's the absolutely insane disparagement that is how much more the writers of lyrics are paid.
This no different than how an administrator of a company gets grossly overpaid compared to the average worker, although the workers are often even more important and far less easily replaced, depending on many different factors of course. It's these weird double standards based on a traditional *opinion* with no regards to actual facts, that need to be remedied.
It's the same thing happening to our standard of living today too, but that's a far more critical and dare I say, dangerous subject today. Nonetheless, it's basically all the same problem: greed.
Anyway, I hope your day four years ago was a good one, and sorry for the late reply, lols.
Agreed. At first I thought it would be refreshing to hear them, from this era, be interviewed by someone other than Jim Ladd, but these interviews are horrible.
@@aylbdrmadison1051 good explanation here: thumbs up 🙂
We absolutely do not agree with that in any shape or form!
I consider this a very good interview!
Andy you have your own opinion do not think you speak for everybody.
The wall is the greatest album of all time
I love the Floyd. Followed them from the 70's on till today. It's unfortunate what happened between Dave and Roger . Both are great musicians and Roger a exceptional songwriter. Dave was very instrumental in making Floyd sound the way they did, doing most of the lead vocals and of course his incredible guitar work. Rick was a unsung hero and Nick brought his talents also. The 4 of them together is what made Rogers songwriting compositions thrive and come to life. Together and foremost they were what accomplished musicians sound like when they are in sync with one another. THANK YOU FOR THE MEMORIES -------DAVE, ROGER, NICK AND RICK........ ROCK ON !!!!
''The LEGENDARY SYD BARRET and roger waters''
When do the band members get credited? I don't get this because on 'Hey you' there is an almost minute-long solo and a guitar riff (which I assume is written by Gilmour). Though the only one credited is Waters.
You don't get writing credit for soloing on a song someone else has written. That's just not how credit is apportioned, even if certain people at times have claimed otherwise.
Waters/Gilmour I like both of them and keep listening to their records. Gilmour seems nicer.
Love these guys! Nevertheless will do all my life. They embody what humans are all about.
No one's Pink. The argument is moot. They all made contributions to the music we love. Be grateful that we can listen to over and over.
it's impressive they made great music for as long as they did. They clearly have clashing personalities. Once the band had nothing left to prove, David got lazy and Roger got preachy. They should have sat down and said "ok guys, let's make the best damn album we can to fulfill our contractual obligation with EMI then take a break. Roger, you get political on your own time. David, you get lazy on your own time. We signed a damn contract."
Why is avoiding political lyrics supposedly what makes the "best damn album"? Dave and Nick are interested in politics.
It's Official, Dave Gilmour Thinks We're Stupid: in a 2008 interview with Larry Getlen, Dave let us know that Nick Mason was "as vital" to Pink Floyd as Roger Waters was.
Well, Nick, Roger, Rick and Dave were all vital to Pink Floyd.
Nick Mason is a very good drummer -- I particularly like the '77 tour and Pompeii -- but "vital," no, of course I don't think e.g. the studio versions of "Mother" and "Grantchester Meadows" aren't by Pink Floyd. Anyway, what Dave was hoping we were stupid about was "_as_ vital."
In the time until about 1972 he probably was.
Afterwards he detoriated rapidly.
Dave is not a great songwriter. Awesome guitarist and emotive musician beyond compare, he made the Pink Floyd sound which enthralls me to this day (apologies to the Rickfans out there but after seeing Floyd in 88 it inspired me to pick up a guitar aged 16, not a keyboard). With one bent note, Gilmour could make a golem weep with gooseflesh but for gods sake don't give him a pencil.
Twas Roger made me delve into every Pink Floyd album, lured me deeper and kept my adolescent mind from screaming at the endless 80s pap on offer with an anodyne of intelligence that largely left when Waters did. The lyrics were gone.
Ahhh, but what a complement - they made each other. Words and music as no other.
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Roger waters , genius , no doubt , Gilmour , great guitar player , that is all
@ 17:59 MIN- Roger Waters wrote all the lyrics to all the Pink Floyd songs...Amazing..i never, ever knew that fact!!
What he means is everything from Dark side of the moon onwards was written by Roger we already know this.
But who knows none of us where in the studio or on the road or conversed with these gentleman.
I still think the inferior Pink Floyd albums are a momentary lapse of reason and Mabel to a lesser degree The Division Bell
The post Roger stuff is ok but it's missing that edge that made Pink Floyd great to begin with. The other three provided the sublime music, they were the heart whereas Roger was the brains. Put together it was a potent combination but not quite the same when you take one of those elements out.
"The other three provided the sublime music" Roger composed more music for the Floyd while he was in the band than anyone else did.
Maybe so but he still couldn't play that music himself. He needed the other three to do that.
No he didnt, he composed most of the lyrics,
The music, the melody, were composed equally by Wright, Gilmour and Roger from Saucerful of Secrets to Wish You Were Here. After that album Wright kinda stopped assisting that much, so on Animals its almost half and half between Roger and Gilmour. (Gilmour composed the entirety of Dogs, which is almost half the album, lyrics by Roger though).
The Wall is obviously mostly Roger, with Gilmour assiting some 30% on it. The best part of it, coincidence?
"on Animals its almost half and half between Roger and Gilmour" No, Dave wrote much less than half of the music of _Animals_. "some 30%" No, Dave wrote much less than that on _The Wall_ too. Whether "Young Lust" is better than "One Of My Turns" and also better than "Another Brick In The Wall" is a matter of personal taste, but the Dave-cowrote-the-best-stuff-on-_The-Wall_ myth is basically a myth, as far as most Floyd fans' actual tastes have been concerned. Wright and Gilmour did not contribute a third of the music composing on _Wish You Were Here_, either: "Shine" is the only one (long, of course) that Wright even helped write, _Waters_ wrote most of the music of "Wish," etc. Waters and Gilmour were not like Lennon and McCartney. The people who want them to be like Lennon and McCartney because that seems groovy -- whatever seems groovy is not how history works.
"he composed most of the lyrics" Almost all of the lyrics. What do you think are the three best lyrics Dave wrote while Roger was in the band?
Waters is brilliant but I heard a recent interview wher he said he had become a dictator by the Wall era and I think that that is very feasible.
He was a fundamental part of the Floyd and perhaps an under appreciated musician overall but I also think understates the importance of things like good arrangements, riffs etc.
One very important point as well is that if you don't feel accepted and valued by your partners, your creativity is going to suffer a hell of a lot, and you even might feel like not sharing your ideas with those misstreating you. It's only natural.
That said, I equally admire DG & RW as musicians and much appreciate the rest of PF.
Great interview. Thanks for posting. My favourite Floyd album is Animals. The Wall has some great tunes, but a double album was a bit much. A bit of a sell out, like Breakfast In America was for Supertramp.
+Joe Dez "a double album was a bit much" All the record companies always told the bands a double album was the way to ca$h in on a reputation you'd already built, both cash in for the band and cash in for the record company. The White Album, Quadrophenia, The Wall, Tusk, The River, Harrison's triple All Things Must Pass, etc. were all released in the right season for Mom and Dad to spring for a multi-disc album under the tree. Weird thing is if there had been three-sided albums, that's actually how long the White Album and Quadrophenia and The Wall should have been. Two sides isn't enough to do them justice.
+Joseph Scott Very true!
+Joseph Scott I agree about the cash-in part. In the Beatles Anthology, George Martin, Ringo, and George Harrison all say the White Album should have been just one record. Ringo said, "there's a lot of 'information' on double albums'. I would have to agree with him. I guess it's all personal taste.
+cerfani Hey, you're close. Ringo said, the White Album should have been two albums: The White Album, and The Whiter Album. Maybe I'll give it a try.....:-)
+cerfani Well said. I agree with you on that. Strangely, I was at the concert in Montreal in 1977, where Rogers Water spat on the fan that lead him to write The Wall. I was about 10 feet away. My strange bit of rock and rock history.
Am seeing Roger next month. A very talented musician and lyricist but must have been a complete pain in the arse to work with.
Almost impossible to be in a band, not have input, and enjoy it. If it causes you more pain than good, get rid of it because life's too short. The Ego is a powerful drug.
Waters was a frustrated genius of an artist who just happened to be a musician.
Gilmour was a musician whose input wasn't quite given the credit it deserved.
The relationship was destined to fail because neither appreciated the other around this time.
Hindsight eh?
Waters wasn't a "frustrated genius", he accomplished plenty.
@@darwinblinks Doesn't mean he wasn't frustrated.
Dave is so much more open minded in his interview, never calls Pink Floyd’s music HIS, it’s the bands, him Roger and nick and Richards
Sure but the Fact is Roger laid out the entire concepts and most of the writing for their great 70's albums. The other guys never had the drive or ability to keep up with Roger's creativity and vision. Dave even admitted he could get "lazy" when it came to writing. No time for lazy in Roger's world. Most driven geniuses are bossy and can be dicky.
Normal because Roger composed almost everything lol
@@Poulpie define compose. Was it Roger composing the melodic instrumental parts? No. Roger wrote lyrics and laid out chord progressions for some songs. It takes a musician to make “his” visions happen
@@davidgilmour3173 You're right. Without Richard Wright and David Gilmour he could left his ideas only in his mind or play it on one bass string. Waters was poor musican.
He's so vague. I like how he doesn't just straight up say 'I bloody hate my band'.
Trulysarcastic44, i think i'd become a taskmaster if my group had just had its fortune stolen by Norton Warburg. on top of this, Floyd were still facing a tax bill in 1979 that would reflect the money they'd invested, even though it had been taken from them. this forced them to become tax exiles. how does being lazy help this situation? how does not writing anything help this situation? Roger's taskmaster status could arguably be the equivalent of simply saying, "the ship is going down if we don't ROW!" now you can, as a group member, get mad and petulant about it, but when the record he has written most of, The Wall, helps save your bacon, perhaps a little gratitude wouldn't kill you the way running out of money would have. The Wall would yield them greater royalties if the record was done by a certain point in 1979. an exec at CBS had made a deal assuring them this. so, Roger saying "WORK" was a way of making not only the record, but making far more in royalties for all of them once that record met the public. Rick wasn't interested in working ahead, even though this would have enriched all of them signficantly. what about HIS ego? seems pretty egomaniacal to say, "fuck you, you do the work!" Roger pushing the group is the only reason why we're all here still talking about them. those records would've never been made without him cracking the whip. egomania? and? i think it takes quite an ego to think that someone else should do the work of writing the records that will feed you for ages and ages once your fortune is stolen. anyone ever thought of that???
For (latter day) fans to know, this financial aspect is an important point to bear in mind to how the closure to mid-PF (i.e. pre DG PF) came about: despite DSOTM being their fame / goldmine, those subsequent financial woes impinged upon the latter 'releasing' dynamics: in short, it would seem 'they' could not literally 'afford' to give Rick anymore 'no one home' leeway, so out came the latter albums as they did; from Animals onwards: yet on which (A.), hearing Rick's quite essential, ethereal keyboard contribution to - + live renditions in 1st performances '74 (onto '77) especially - tracks Sheep and (mid section) Dogs, I myself have never found, nor been able to fathom, why he didn't deserve a composition credit to those.
Roger is really full of himself here; he clearly sees Dave, Rick and Nick as nothing more than backup musicians. Too bad.
He fully admits he'd sort of taken over, and could understand why that wasn't working well for the others. That said I far more often agree with Dave who seems more wise, whereas Roger is more raw as a personality. I also think Roger is a bit full of himself in general too, but not all that bad when you consider how that much fame could easily corrupt anyone. And next to Dave most people wouldn't look as great as they might otherwise, perhaps myself included I admit.
@Hugh Jones he did write all of the songs, but gilmour and wright also had good songs
In Waters' mind, Gilmour was a pig and Wright and Mason were sheep.
@@drunkdave5677 LOL maybe you're right
Waters' attitude is fair enough, though... Gilmour freely admits here that he was "lazy" - and it's well-documented that after DSOTM (which was properly collaborative) the rest of the band had no ideas and were only too happy to leave it all up to Roger to come up with an album concept and write everything.
They came to resent it later, of course, as the string of Waters-penned albums became increasingly personal and they realised they'd become session musicians in the Roger Waters Band, but it's a situation that they allowed to happen - largely, as Gilmour admits, due to laziness, i.e. not coming up with any material of their own, sitting back, and letting Roger captain the ship.
From Roger's perspective, I guess that once you've had that level of increasing creative control over several albums - with world-class musicians lending their talents to making your very personal visions a reality - it would be virtually impossible to go back to being just one of several songwriters on "normal" albums that were just a collection of songs.
that was great
I feel bad for Roger. The press were really gate keepers back then and he really felt it when he didn't want to do interviews and such. I think Roger wanting to write from the heart made possibly David, and maybe even Rich, annoyed at him for writing personal material. But personal material is way better than just trying to make something poppy or just anything.
But I guess, they also felt like with him just writing personal material for the band meant that in some way, pink floyd would essentially just be his band since all the songs were about how he felt and about his life. Of course other things made them drift apart but I really feel bad for Roger, cause knowing the meaning behind some of the songs for The Wall, made it so much better. And watching the movie really helped with me liking it more too.
I feel like maybe they just weren't mature enough to try and work things out. But I can see that the problem is much deeper, cause at around 17:00 David claims that he doesn't like Rogers lyrics, and with those lyrics, he'd have to work with that and make sounds around it like all the other members. I feel like maybe David should have just went with it and used this opportunity as a new challenge instead of trying to make Roger change his work.
Very good points WL: it's a pity 'modern' PF fans (+'originals' for that matter) don't get the 'creativity' differences that made PF up to '77 (just about '80) so unique, & so, really, neither is 'the bad guy': it just became a spent force / didn't gel anymore. Cue 'proper' PF end. Pity a Bonzo 'Let's make up and be friendly' type ending couldn't be engineered - although of course, in effect, Bob (a.k.a. 'Pink' of all things!) did so achieve it for Live08.
Water's trying to take credit for all the success and creativity of PF. Without Gilmore and others, it's not PF.
It always seems to me that Roger would be angry, tyrannical, an asshole etc etc. but he didn't seem to be hiding much. Gilmour, on the other hand, spent the rest of the 80's and 90's making little snide swipes at 'his predecessor' with a grin on his face. Painfully tactful, as the interview put it, is spot on.
Yes, Gilmour is a phony with a big ego and Waters is a non-phony with a big ego.
Insightful / top observation 'Lamb': those who listen and or read in on DGs ruminations on life can oft detect a smidge of difficult passive aggressive stance ("Never mind about that - where would RnR be without feedback? Chrissss!"). = unfair for received wisdom to always be Rog painted the bad guy who ruined PF: witness the, um, 'delay' shenanigans to the Animals reissue stuff ...
@@BOFsensai gilmour has been acting like a huge effing baby ever since RW left the band , but i am guessing this snotty behavior is just why roger did and i am also going out on a limb he was acting like this going all the way back to obscured days
Final Cut is by far one of Pink Floyd’s best work
Early split insight- good stuff!
I used to have a Lisa Robinson interview with Stewart Copeland from 1986 and I lost it...
I found it back!
who's going to tune his bass now?
I think that Roger did the right thing by taking over, it obviously hurt the band a lot but The Wall is one of the top selling albums of all time and it's up there with Sgt.Pepper and Queen's greatest hits etc. I thought that what Roger did to Pink Floyd was wrong at first and I thought it was a silly thing to do when I heard that story but then I heard the albums before and after The Wall and I completely understand why he did it, it's quite possibly the best piece of musical work ever written (in my opinion) and it still amazes me how it's even possible to write such a masterpiece and I have never heard anything like it and still haven't almost 35 years later! Wish You Were Here and Animals were incredible for what they were but they really stepped it up with The Wall and even The Final Cut! And the two albums after that weren't that good, some good songs like Poles Apart and for me that's it really and Sorrow in my opinion is the worst of all Floyd songs, they could of done better! and I also love all the stuff before Dark Side, Meddle is mind boggling and is great, same with Atom Heart Mother and A Saurcerful Of Secrets needs more credit for what it is!!
Best comment. I agree with this post more than most. I loved the Final Cut. Poles apart I like. Id add I love High Hopes, Lost For Words and On the Turning Away. I feel like these 3 Gilmour songs could be added to a greatest hits. Division Bell was a decent album imo. But MLOR is one of my least favoutlrite Floyd releases.
Waters: Me me me me me .....
Gilmour: Waters deserves more credit than me.
Gilmour is much more sincere than Waters, it is so clear that it hurts the soul. He simply talks about the fact as objectively as possibly, pointing out his mistakes, whereas Waters is just whining and putting the blame on all of the 3 others instead of admitting that he was wrong. His words just seem so unreliable. It is truly unfortunate that the man representing the wisdom behind Pink Floyd would be so different than what he preaches us to be.
Well in defense of Roger, a band either has ideas and continues on or just stops and disbands. Are you saying it would have been better if Roger just abandoned Pink Floyd earlier?
Yeah, their accounts actually tally fairly well. It's just that Roger WAS doing more work than the others. Can't fault him for telling it like it is. Seems, in fact, like he left the band to avoid having to keep blaming people for holding him back.
Jugdish Either that or he should have allowed the other members to get involved. I think that by animals, he just wished to be on the spotlight all by himself. He started to think of himself as Pink Floyd. Look how he fired Richard Wright with barely any hesitation. Come on the poor man was rightfully spending his vacation. Also, during interviews, he refers to Pink Floyd songs as his songs. Now I don't think that he could have written Shine on or echoes with the same complexity all by himself... I think that if it was just a matter of laziness from the other 3, they wouldn't have fought Roger. At the end they would have been winning money with no great effort. However, the fact that there were several conflicts proves to me that they actually wanted to contribute. I do reckon that they acted a bit lazily though. Still, if they were that much out of ideas they wouldn't have released solo albums after being put away. I think they needed to confirm that they still had it.
Fuck, you just jump right into an idea and BELIEVE the SHIT OUT OF IT, don't you? Believe, believe, believe! That's all you fucking do! It doesn't matter who tries to set you straight, or if anyone tries at all, because you're just a BIG BELIEVER through and through, aren't you?
Ben Culture is the sad reflection of a person whose admiration towards someone went too far. Ben can be easily found on any Pink Floyd thread. Whenever someone is trashing David Gilmour, Richard Wright and Nick Mason and glorifying Roger Waters, it's probably him. His comments are delusional and don't make any sense. When you push him into a corner, he reacts in an angry and irrational way just like in the previous comment, showing that he can't actually back up his words. He even said that David Gilmour's guitar playing and voice have both become thin, whereas, anybody who has seen him live recently knows that it is not true. Now, I am moving way too far from from the main topic. I already stated my opinion on the matter. I am no believer or whatever Ben thinks I am. I have my opinion on the topic built on what the majority of the facts point out to, like the fact that they pulled off well on their own which shows they still had ideas, the fact that Roger Waters admitted he was wrong, the fact that Wright and Mason decided to stay with Gilmour which shows that they must find him more comprehensive and fair... Of course, Roger Waters is not the only one to blame. They all have their share of the blame. The split is old news and the subject should have been closed long ago. The fans have in their vast majority enjoyed the post-Waters era and decided themselves that Roger Waters was wrong for trying to make Pink Floyd his band. After Wish You Were Here, Pink Floyd's sound became less and less psychedelic, experimental and progressive as the other members withdrew from the song writing. That's why the final cut feels for me like a betrayal to what Pink Floyd is all about (though I do enjoy it as a Roger Waters solo album). I can personally understand Roger's behavior after seeing the wall, but it's still disappointing coming from the lyricist of albums like "Dark side of the moon". He was the dark side of Pink Floyd in the end.
Never heard this interview at the time. It's interesting to look back at it now, considering subsequent events. Gilmour comes off as very open and reasonable, acknowledging Waters' talent and thematic genius, but insisting that he too deserves credit for making Pink Floyd what it is. Waters strikes me as cold, brutal and narcissistic. One prominent feature of a narcissist is that they can never get enough external validation to satisfy them. After complaining that the entire country of England doesn't understand or appreciate his work, Waters essentially writes off the rest of the band's contributions and insists that he's the sole creative force now, so there's no point in the band continuing. Of course, when they did have the audacity to continue without him, he responded by taking them to court to make them stop, unsuccessfully. Frankly, they all needed some serious therapy and a professional mediator.
I actually really love the final cut, the last great album Waters made, It sounds like the wall but you can still feel a step away from the sound and closer to the waters sound but for some reason I really love it even though it's not the sound I like, and pros and cons taking a leap and everything after is taking plane journeys away from floyds sound.
I'd love for you to explain exactly what a Pink Floyd album sounds like, because each one sounds quite different than the one made before and after it. Maybe it's different for someone that was introduced to the various albums as one body of work, but when we had to wait years for the next record to be made. When we could finally get a copy of the new release, we were always amazed at the way the new one sounded nothing like the others.
@@floydloonie4880 thats honestly what makes them so remarkable to me, they managed to create new revolutionary sounds and concepts with every new album. Its so hard to put a genre on what they do
to me a Floyd album is 4 parts mixed into a whole, like a good soup:
1) that unique mystery, mood and atmosphere via Roger's concept, ideas & writing.
2) Dave's guitar tone, played in his measured way, creates high emotional stakes which fit beautifully with Roger's mood-setting.
3) Rick's soaring synths or pingalonga keys adds cosmic dimension or classical sensibility to the piece.
4) Nick's trademark atomic drumming (timed perfectly to accentuate the musical drama) is still loose enough to remind us that at its core: Pink Floyd are a Rock Band.
I realise it's ever-fashionable to reference Syd, and i do enjoy his songs (solo stuff too) but his overall Floyd contribution as an active member was pretty small given that he appears in only one album (+ a forgettable Saucerful track). Sure, he lyrically and emotionally influenced DSotM & WywH...but Syd was musically his own thing, he was never really floydian.
@@floydloonie4880 It's hard to define but it's an album that feels the presence of Gilmour and Waters in the sound of the music. I really like The Final Cut but to me, I think it's quite undeniable that Waters presence is felt far more than Gilmour.
Roger agreeing that Pink Floyd was HIS band is what fundamentally was wrong. Roger wrote The Wall, but David wrote 3 of the most memorable songs on it.
Roger really shouldn't have forced The Final Cut onto David. If Roger wants to bring session musicians in instead of writing with "his" band, then he should have released it as a solo project.
Whatever though. Old news, all I'm the past now.
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Roger Waters and David Gilmour interview, with Roger Waters.
O ''THE FINAL CUT'' DE ROGER WATERS . DISCO SOLO, COLOCANDO OS DEMAIS MEMBROS DA BANDA COMO COADJUVANTES . GRANDE SACADA ...
What has happened seems to be like what happens after divorce. In this case Waters split from the band. Some of the kids gravitate to one of the parents, and other kids towards the other parent.
But we now know what Pink Floyd would sound like without Gilmour (Have you heard DSOTM Redux?) Water clearly had more to write about, but the sound of Pink Floyd must in large part be credited to Gilmour.
good editing!
Roger & Dave in 1984? Did they have to sit on different sides of the studio?😢
By the way people, you are allowed to like them both....... Just sayin.
Recorded at seperate dates, very bitter back then but wounds are healing well as thet've met several times and talk to each other.
Zeusdaz - The Unemulated Retro Game Channel I'm like a Floyd encyclopaedia, there stuff from '66-'73 (especially the live stuff)is the pinnacle of rock music.'74-'81 is beyond amazing as well. But after "The Wall" that was really the end.
@@ZEUSDAZThat has changed since this comment was left
Yes Roger anddavid worked good together but Roger Waters proved to be the best cause he still makes new albums they are the best music Roger made but everything Roger Waters makes is great. I love Roger Waters and always will.
During this time of interviews in 1984, I saw Gilmours About Face Tour 1984 Boston Orpheum and Waters Pros & Cons of Hitchhiking Tour 1984 Hartford Civic Center w/ Clapton on lead guitar. Big fan of both but I enjoyed the Waters Pros & Cons of Hitchhiking show a tad better. Because at that time they were in court fighting and Gilmour could only do a few Pink Floyd songs. Only Money, Run Like Hell and Comfortably Numb. Ones he wrote or co-wrote, which weren't much. Mostly solo. Where as Waters show was much longer and did all Pink Floyd hits after he did The Pros & Cons of Hitchhiking full album. Both were remarkable in their 1st solo tours.
What boggles me is that there's no soundtrack for The Wall film, other than a single release for When the Tigers Broke Free. They should've at least released an EP containing Tigers, What Shall We Do Now? and the rerecorded songs.
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At this stage Dave is still open to working with Roger and the rest of the group again , the mess after The Final Cut I think pushed them apart permanently. Shortly after this there would be no more talk of working together ever again , this interview is almost like the Final Cut for Dave’s outlook of working with Roger again.
1985 is when the lawsuit began isn't it?
in addition, Rick was given a golden opportunity to make back money despite the Floyd being ripped off. instead of pulling his weight he didn't and last time i checked, if you don't work then you don't keep your job. in that respect it is entirely on Rick that he lost his job. let's not forget that Roger could've prevented him from playing on The Wall tour yet he did not do so. Maybe Roger wasn't the asshole here after all.
But Rick is not around to defend himself is he?
watch any documentary where Rick told his side of the story. he has said that Roger wouldn't let him write. how does someone stop you from writing? to that point Roger has said that he was always desperate for people to write. there are many co-writes with Roger and The Wall was a collaborative effort with Roger's vision driving the thing. Rick has credits on Wish You Were Here and Dark Side of the Moon. he could have contributed but he wasn't writing. at least Gilmour was honest enough about himself to simply say that he was given to being lazy.
ok then.
you're excused.
mike Braxus ok, anyone reading your response preceding the one in which i made reference to your "limp responses and arguments" will only see that your reply was edited.
they will understandably consider my response to it to be quite heavy handed indeed,
because they will have seen your remark about Roger's artistry to be a mere sharing of opinion on your part.
what they won't see is the much shorter remark you'd originally made.
to quote, you said,
"I suppose you'd take it up the ass from Roger huh? lol"
you're not making a mere smartass reply there,
you're being a dumbass who clearly doesn't even have the courage to leave up his response.
adult conversation and cowardice are not the same thing, you filth.
you can't come up with an argument,
so you say something base and cowardly,
only to quickly double down on your cowardice by editing that comment to which i'd by now already replied,
making it unrecognizable to anyone who might otherwise come along and reasonably determine what a boring and witless cunt you are.
you've completely erased it, you pig.
if you had any imagination you'd shoot yourself.
Jason Lefler said *"watch any documentary where Rick told his side of the story. he has said that Roger wouldn't let him write. how does someone stop you from writing?"* THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.
Then, he reposted mike Braxus 's ORIGINAL comments, elevating himself ever closer to RUclips godhood.
You own this thread, Jason. Thanks again!
Not to be outdone, Nick is referred to as Micki.
I'm Lisa Robinson
12:37+ : "I doubt whether we will." - David.... he already knew before Roger officially left in 1985.
He says "I have no idea whether we will"
Very Candid Roger waters..he is misunderstood
“Some nights, looking after myself wins out. But then some nights, rock and roll wins out. “ haha
'I'm Lisa Robinson' - I heard you the first five fucking times!
Roger Waters inspired Pink Floyd's best music.
IMHO Roger Waters inspired much of Pink Floyd's best lyrics, but Dave Gilmour and Rick Wright inspired Pink Floyd's best music. And a major honorable mention to each album's producers, too for making it all come together so exceptionally over the years.
"Inspiration" is cute, but Roger Waters _wrote_ more melodies for '70s Pink Floyd than anyone else.
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Bruno Mazzorana i pink sono 4 non basta solo rogerrrrrr
so,...why Waters solo work is so bad& boring? "amused to death" was right,...but it was like The Wall pt 8 concept,...
R Waters - is a LEGEND and extremely decent man
Those guys like D Gilmore- hundreds around - but only ONE R WATERS
Without RW - there never be a PFLOYD
Behind All of the Albums created - there is R WATERS
that was funny the tape "Fast FWD" sound 21:00