It's simply amazing and reinforces our belief in growing plants as naturally as possible in our little farm in India despite the fact that everyone around is using chemical fertilizers without holds
Matt, excellent interview and yes I read his published work. I suspected that several plant types and symbiotic microbes were used intellegently by plants(by observation) but...not quite to the extent that James White PHD et al have shown...my mind was blown to say the least! All the more reason to allow our plants to grow and thrive in regeneratve soil. Blessings.
1:09:00 listening to all this conversing about microbial balances and how usually harmless microbes turn into harmful/threats to the whole system I have to think of gut health. I love to see the interconnectedness of everything.
Mind Blown! And Matt, I gotta tell ya: 1.02.20 - 1.02.30 was such a movingly sweet, mischievous and happy moment, it made my heart glow with hope. And I need that sometimes. I thank both of you fine gentlemen for it! 😊
I've been wondering about tomato seeds. The norm is to wash them to remove the liquid so that they will germinate. But,, are we also washing off the microbial community? 🌻🌻🐝🐞🦋🦋🐞🐝🌻🌻
I love you guys!! Yes!!! I love your channel. Just listened to this…. And will probably listen to it over and over again. This is great. Groundbreaking information. 🍃🙌
I'll undoubtedly revisit this exchange many times, but as for now I think I learned this (for one): The importance of natural development of microbial reserves on seeds seems to indicate the use of self sowing plants in a biologically diverse environment as optimal practice. Am I drawing a logical conclusion?
In Hindu tradition mushrooms are not being consumed because it is said that they are capable of experiencing the pain of seperation and the basic foundation of Hinduism is Ahimsa - Non Violence. I myself treat plants and Mushrooms differently since I heard this bit of information - irrespective of if this is fact or not - it brought a sense of respect towards these beings many people just pass without really noticing their existence or taking them for granted at least! Greetings and blessings from Germany!
They're doing refined studies now on it like a cross reference to make sure it's not other influences. Here's one demonstrating that it's endophytic and independent of other triggers. www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2019.00979/full
Awesome talk! It sounds to me like there is a potential that: The type of plant roots in which one could observe the rhyzophagy cycle in, are a symbiotic relationship between plants and fungi- that's my guess:)
So much of the new information is making us all sit back and reconsider EVERYTHING ;) I hope you join us in the new course: matt-powers.mykajabi.com/regenerativesoil
very interesting but I wonder what is the relevance of the soil and its biological components when thinking of future agriculture. I mean, huge facilities growing plants and trees indoors with artificial light and hydroponically sterile water. no food web only chemicals. plants and their roots look very healthy in these environments. if bacteria and other organisms are so crucial for root and plant development, how could this be?
So bare with me because this is multifaceted but; It's because biology drives novel biochemistry & biology never stand still- evolution is an ever evolving process, constantly adapting to changing conditions. So these plants can be healthy and they can meet a targeted need through artificial cultivation- but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to be producing the same compounds; at the same rates or have the same epigenetic out growth. You also have to look at the long term stability of ecological biomes. Artificial cultivation has its advantages especially in the arena of space- but Global infrastructure isn't in a position to replace traditional outdoor cultivation. As long as we are growing crops outside, it's important to know and understand these processes so we can maintain healthy ecosystems while producing nutritionally adequate food in clean soils. Especially since soils form the base architecture for all other ecologies & how we treat soil is going to have the most direct enviromental impact. Even if we moved all Agriculture to in door artificial cultivation, we would still need to cultivate soils & biodiversity to maintain healthy ecosystems. Otherwise even that indoor cultivation would still be vulnerable to new pathogens & genetic redundancies. We have to think about more than just how things are now, we have to think about how things may change 7 generations - or more - from now as well. Then there's the fact that for our own health we ourselves are a biome and require biological activity from our food and enviroment. Which is an arena of nutrition that we are still just taking baby steps in our understanding of. Consuming food that is more sterile itself may be an issue, and indeed a lot of research is pointing towards the need to have more microbial active food and enviroments.
I've noticed that volunteer winter squash do better than the one's that I start. They produce more and bigger squash. And no powder mildew. This year I'm winter sowing with out drying the seed.
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It's simply amazing and reinforces our belief in growing plants as naturally as possible in our little farm in India despite the fact that everyone around is using chemical fertilizers without holds
Tip, use the fruit to make a fertilizer for that crop by putting it in water and let it sit. The longer the better and then dilute and pour.
Matt, excellent interview and yes I read his published work. I suspected that several plant types and symbiotic microbes were used intellegently by plants(by observation) but...not quite to the extent that James White PHD et al have shown...my mind was blown to say the least! All the more reason to allow our plants to grow and thrive in regeneratve soil. Blessings.
1:09:00 listening to all this conversing about microbial balances and how usually harmless microbes turn into harmful/threats to the whole system I have to think of gut health. I love to see the interconnectedness of everything.
Mind Blown!
And Matt, I gotta tell ya: 1.02.20 - 1.02.30 was such a movingly sweet, mischievous and happy moment, it made my heart glow with hope. And I need that sometimes.
I thank both of you fine gentlemen for it! 😊
This discussion is fascinating! 😍🌱
I've been wondering about tomato seeds. The norm is to wash them to remove the liquid so that they will germinate.
But,, are we also washing off the microbial community?
🌻🌻🐝🐞🦋🦋🐞🐝🌻🌻
VERY INSTRUCTIVE
excellent info, thank you so much!!
Mind blowing! If only life were long enough to learn it all.
If only!
21:16 Could a potential solution be extremely clean and sterile hydroponic setups?
That would be really really bad for the plants - they wouldn't form root hairs.
I love you guys!! Yes!!! I love your channel. Just listened to this…. And will probably listen to it over and over again.
This is great.
Groundbreaking information.
🍃🙌
Did anyone figure out what Cherokee Agriculture book Dr. White was referring to?
Yes: "Parker, On The Iroquois" (1913)
I'll undoubtedly revisit this exchange many times, but as for now I think I learned this (for one):
The importance of natural development of microbial reserves on seeds seems to indicate
the use of self sowing plants in a biologically diverse environment as optimal practice.
Am I drawing a logical conclusion?
In Hindu tradition mushrooms are not being consumed because it is said that they are capable of experiencing the pain of seperation and the basic foundation of Hinduism is Ahimsa - Non Violence.
I myself treat plants and Mushrooms differently since I heard this bit of information - irrespective of if this is fact or not - it brought a sense of respect towards these beings many people just pass without really noticing their existence or taking them for granted at least!
Greetings and blessings from Germany!
deficiency of air layering & grow cuttings
Are you related to Austin Powers?
Yeah baby! Nice to see ya back. Dang two hours I’ll have to set aside some time for this one 🍿 🤙🏿
Just like WOW this is SO fascinating...
does anyone have the reference for this study on fusarium mentioned by them?
They're doing refined studies now on it like a cross reference to make sure it's not other influences. Here's one demonstrating that it's endophytic and independent of other triggers. www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2019.00979/full
just search: "endophyte fusarium tomato" and you see a bunch of published articles
@@MattPowersSoil Thanks, and congratulations on your channel!
Awesome talk! It sounds to me like there is a potential that: The type of plant roots in which one could observe the rhyzophagy cycle in, are a symbiotic relationship between plants and fungi- that's my guess:)
So is it actually detrimental to the seed to be kind of "mulling" the Basil seed to remove the coating before sowing ?
Seed coats are supposed to be there and covered with microbes. THOUGH scarification for some seeds is needed of course ;)
🤯WOW WOW WOW 🤯
So would uprooting weeds in your farm is a foolish thing to do?
So much of the new information is making us all sit back and reconsider EVERYTHING ;) I hope you join us in the new course: matt-powers.mykajabi.com/regenerativesoil
Wish Dr.White had a better microphone.
very interesting but I wonder what is the relevance of the soil and its biological components when thinking of future agriculture. I mean, huge facilities growing plants and trees indoors with artificial light and hydroponically sterile water. no food web only chemicals.
plants and their roots look very healthy in these environments. if bacteria and other organisms are so crucial for root and plant development, how could this be?
So bare with me because this is multifaceted but;
It's because biology drives novel biochemistry & biology never stand still- evolution is an ever evolving process, constantly adapting to changing conditions.
So these plants can be healthy and they can meet a targeted need through artificial cultivation- but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to be producing the same compounds; at the same rates or have the same epigenetic out growth. You also have to look at the long term stability of ecological biomes. Artificial cultivation has its advantages especially in the arena of space- but Global infrastructure isn't in a position to replace traditional outdoor cultivation.
As long as we are growing crops outside, it's important to know and understand these processes so we can maintain healthy ecosystems while producing nutritionally adequate food in clean soils. Especially since soils form the base architecture for all other ecologies & how we treat soil is going to have the most direct enviromental impact.
Even if we moved all Agriculture to in door artificial cultivation, we would still need to cultivate soils & biodiversity to maintain healthy ecosystems. Otherwise even that indoor cultivation would still be vulnerable to new pathogens & genetic redundancies. We have to think about more than just how things are now, we have to think about how things may change 7 generations - or more - from now as well.
Then there's the fact that for our own health we ourselves are a biome and require biological activity from our food and enviroment.
Which is an arena of nutrition that we are still just taking baby steps in our understanding of.
Consuming food that is more sterile itself may be an issue, and indeed a lot of research is pointing towards the need to have more microbial active food and enviroments.
I've noticed that volunteer winter squash do better than the one's that I start. They produce more and bigger squash. And no powder mildew. This year I'm winter sowing with out drying the seed.
Can you survive off junkfood? Will you be healthy or will you just be alive?
We cannot improve on nature, and shouldn't try.
very strong points. thank you
And Charles Darwin was not even a 'scientist' by the conventional definition
Plants themselves aren't technically vegan. So now what?
Live, be gratefull, enjoy and celebrate! 😊