Well ... if you want a Royal Oak copy it seems OK ... the face is what most people will see and looks good even if the finishing isn't great ... though I agree with Ivan ... i wouldn't pay that price
If you're looking for an actual quality homage, the Pelton Perseus is very well made. Now it isn't quite 1:1, they went for a circular bezel, and there is no Clous de Paris to be found, but it's otherwise an obvious homage. Whether it's worth the $3000 asking price is a different question. I would expect more than an ETA 2824 at that price, but there's a very positive review on Average Bros that might be worth checking out.
I bought a similar Cadisen AP Royal oak homage and only difference I see is the bracelet is solid across a d the screw in crown on the Feice is nicer than the regular crown on the Cadisen. I like this but at $68 for the Cadisen, it wins in total value
Makes me chuckle reading the comments - sounds like it’s ok to ape a Rolex but nothing else haha to be fair to this piece you didn’t really raise that many negatives: essentially the size (which is very subjective), price (again subjective), movement (Seagull ST16 is actually fairly well regarded I believe for a Chinese movement) and the bracelet finishing. If you want the look of a $50k piece it’s really not that bad. Although as has been said you can get similar/same copy on Aliexpress for half the money. Although as was pointed out by Alex in the comments when you buy via Amazon you have returns policy etc so price will always be higher. The name is not the best that’s for sure and I agree with you about the sharp edges on the bracelet, pretty sharp looking. Thanks for the review Ivan 👍 p.s I love the last 2 min wrap up!! Haha soooo true - I totally agree with you.
Good to hear from you Sam! I think objectively speaking you can get better finished watches with better movements for the same price (or less). Also the finishing is actually shoddy overall, it was just easiest to show it on the bracelet links. Take care mate!
Very thorough review, honestly looks okay from afar until you get to the finer details. I certainly wouldn't get one because cadisen have a very similar looking homage for a fraction of the price. Appreciate the honesty
@@PerthWAtch a few Seiko 5's. But honestly, does the lume on this watch glow for a few hours? I find that really hard to believe. Like actually visible to the eye?!
My Pagani Hulk Homage cost half the price of that thing and is significantly better made, and with a NH35 for good measure. Cheers from the UK. Great review btw
@@Mister_Phafanapolis no argument from me. There are a couple of Rolex's that are alright, but overall they all seem to be the same dang watch over and over again. Nothing too exciting. Now, Grand Seiko......
It’s obviously one of those Chinese ones you can get on aliexpress for about 100$, usually the face and movement are different but the rest will all be the same. It are really good watches for that price. This is one of those brands that will sell you it for dubbel the price.
completely agree with you. since the chinese factory is selling via Amazon, they have to cover return expenses, amazon fees...etc. hence the double price. Better off Aliexpress even though you have to wait 6 to 8 weeks to get it.
Hello...Great review as always! Three q's for you; how easy is it to replace the movement, are there any eta variants that can be used instead and how many grams does the watch weigh? I just don't want to end up with a paper weight. Just heard 162g :))Thanks
Taking out the movement is the easy part, just need to take care with the hands. Reattaching the hands (especially the seconds) is the real challenge. I think ETA differ slightly in size so may not work, but I’m not 100% on this.
Chinese Specials are fun. Though I did get carried away with a couple of Parnis Datejusts at $135 each, the rest are under $60 and as low as $16. But the Feice marketing... that's a real stinker. Almost as bad as Oris' Diver 65 with 100 WR.
Ivan, my man that was brutal but true. I don't mind homages, but when the companies start to say their stuff is "original" then it is sort of messed up, cause they know it is BS. Anyway, the price is too high for a not well-done homage, there are others who have this design and their finishing is better. Keep up the nice work and stay safe!
Perth WAtch Haha! 😂 Just watched that review - really enjoyable. Loved the way you filmed yourself sitting behind the giant box with only your head visible above it!
I very much agree with your summery. If I will buy a "RO look-alike" then I spend 1200 Euro on a beautiful ML-AIKON from well known Swiss maker, and not from this "original" brand...
@@77cjam 99% of the people go with quartz witch is also more accurate, easy to wear and relible. but if you are in the 1% crazy and this is your life hobby, I guess you will get to buy a 1000Euro watch someday, this is an entry level price point
I'd honestly like to see a review of their bauhaus watches. I love Nomos and Junghans but I can't afford one. A cheaper, similarly styles watch would be nice and they have a few.
Enjoyed the review brother....this is definitely not for me, I am however interested in the non textured dial cadisen homage of the AP....keep them coming my friend....⌚🏴⌚🏴
Hello Ivan, How are you, mate? This is the watch that I was thinking of buying, just for fun via Amazon, but I bought another exactly same looking one from Aliexpress at $80. about a year ago. I had it for a week and sold it off at eBay. For me, the main issue with this type of cheap knock-off homage watches is "feeling of detachment". It is bit amusing to have it and play with it for a day or two, but you never develop a "relationship" with your watch. You always feel remote and distant (at least, that is how I feel about it). Even for San Martin, homage Rolex watch, I owned it for a month and had to sell it because again I never felt like the watch belonged to me. San Martin Rolex homage is a fantastic watch, great value, very very well made (much better than Tisell), but somehow I did not feel that good wearing it day and night. The only Rolex homage watch (or any homage watch) that I really like now is Ginault Ocean Rover I and II which both I own for a while. Perhaps because it is not 100% knock off and it certainly does look, feel and works like few thousand dollars watch. Anyway, going back to this Feces... sorry, Feice watch, if someone really would like to have one, better to buy one off Aliexpress at a half price. Own it for a while and if you get tired of it, just sell it at eBay at $65.00. not whole lot of loss... Thanks for this interesting review (which I can really relate to) and have a wonderful day, Ivan.
Some more good thoughts there... I think you are wise to sell those ones as soon as you knew you were not getting that connection. If only I would be as disciplined! That San Martin sounds like a winner... I might have to try to get my hands on one of those!
Feice Skeleton AP RO homage. Looks amazing for the money. There are at least 3 great reviews on YT. I know it's late, but you might still be interested in it
Here here... well said ,their models just look like everything else on Ali-X but at more than twice the price lol,well cheeky & to add a bs story as well ,at least that other company you reviewed the other day designed their own, granted you couldn't tell the time for sh*t but it was theirs with a bs story .Great overview ,hope you went n had some meditation afterwards hehe 😉
I appreciate your honesty. I agree with you about the company ‘philosophy’. Copying watches in all ways but the name isn’t original and the website isn’t exactly honest. Sounds like a shady company imo and like you said: not such a good advert for Chinese horology. That said, I love the Royal Oak so even a copy is nice to look at design-wise and I enjoyed your review 🙂
Hiya again. Good review. Yes I do like the Genta designs but I think with a cheapish homage a decent quartz movement would make more sense. Hold on a minute .....Casio g2100!!! And that's half this price and at least a modern twist on the design. Bang! Cheers as per,Len.
@@PerthWAtch It could have been perceived by reviewers with no intention from Casio. Non the less I think it is a modern twist on an old but good design? You can't buy them for love nor money in the UK. Someone obviously loves them. Cheers.
Yeah I didun know about that brand until people mentioned it here. Then again, I think they probably didun actually design anything on their watches ;)
You can get Cadisen version with Seiko NH36A on Aliexpress for US$66 and I have a $25 AP from Paulareis which i think has the same seagull movement and quite good finishing for what it cost
For the unitiated $200 for a watch looking very close to a Nomos Llambda would be tempting. Even I questioned paying $10,000 for the original...for a few seconds.
Perth WAtch a couple years back there was a Royal Oak homage by a company called “didun design” on aliexpress, they were quite popular and well built but only cost about £50 nowadays a lot of companies offer these homages really similar to that watch..... with either a miyota quartz or Chinese automatic movement... just like the didun design..... but ask a couple 100 pounds/dollars for them! Great video btw :)
Fantastic review, agree 100 percent with your assessment. I think it shows that sometimes the obsession with marketing spin doesn’t build a lasting brand
@@PerthWAtch FЄICƎ, AKA-Feike (飞克), was founded in 2009 in Shenzhen, with the goal of producing high quality Chinese made watches for the domestic market. The following year, the decision was made to concentrate on Bauhaus style timepieces. Fiece was first founded in 2009. Their goal was to prove that not all Chinese watches are low quality. They wanted to produce Chinese watches that would have greater perceived value than what people were accustomed to. Feice first became known for their Bauhaus styled watches. The Bauhaus style originated as a German school of thought. Watches in this style focus on simplicity. The goal there is to keep actual watch functions basic, and form a style off of this base. Everything about companies are online mate, just use Google lol. I knew this because I saw this a little while ago
The finishing is really important to explain to people that think they're getting a High Horology piece for 200 hundred dollars only because of the fact it looks like a expensive piece.
@@PerthWAtch probably should have worded it better . Guess what I was trying to get across is you get what you pay for . For that price the quality not going to be anywhere close to the real deal . Think the brand Dundin not sure how to spell the name but there said to be another fairly nice copy of the watch you reviewed today .
@@PerthWAtch you did a great job explaining more or less agreeing with you and if you don't have alot of money and like these style of watches it's a great way to experience them .😉
@@PerthWAtch the one about the lack of innovation of the company that makes the Feice. Whats the innovation in a Pagani Hulk? Pagani also takes An existing watch etc..or did You mean to say that the producer of Feice markets the watch like it's innovating while Pegani does not? Good video by the way.
Yeah I had one of these for about five minutes and shipped it back, it was pretty horrific, but you get what you pay for! Love the videos man, just published one myself and I have to say I am in awe of how much effort it takes just to get ten minutes of content onto the screen! Keep it up!
Only thing i disagree with is the water resistance, 30 meters is still 90 feet, recreational diving is recommended at 180 or something. Soo ehhh I can’t swim 90 feet underwater 🤷🏻♂️ not on a breathe hold at least. And if you have a 90 foot bathtub or pool, you’re probably pretty awesome! Lol
That’s coz you don’t understand the implications of the water rating. It’s not just about static resistance in lab conditions. Look it up, including water resistance charts from people who make watches ;)
Theres a typo in the title: "Perth WAtch". Also, I really dislike their logo, even ignoring the "original". The mix of angular and curved fonts just doesn't work at all.
When you talk about their originality, and they burnish their “Bauhaus” homage, which company are you saying it’s a near copy of? [At ~13:50] It sounds like you’re saying “Slander” (but I admit I can be misunderstanding way European manufacturers’ names can be pronounced).
This is no different to SM, Pagani, Phlida or Courgert watches they all make near 1:1 copies off the sub or Seamasters so I don't see what the difference is! Anyway, I'm not into any Homage watches anymore. Cheers mate...
I don't understand why homage watch makers don't go quartz. Clearly anyone buying this is only concerned about the aesthetics, so why not incorporate something cheaper and more accurate? Obviously you would have to give up transparent case backs... but was that a selling point?
The reason is because whenever there is a choice to go for an automatic vs a quartz, the former still proves to be more desirable amongst those who go for homage designs.
Pretty nice at a glance, but if I would want a Royal Oak homage I would go for a Maurice Lacroix Aikon. Great quality and a little bit more of personality even though with a higher price.
Barring the brand's questionable, self-proclaimed story, mission statement about themselves and their products, they did an ok job for the price. But, like u said, for about as much, less or a little more, probably can have a much higher quality product. But, I think 42mm is too big for that style.. the problem is the 52mm lug to lug. With such a straight and flat case with very short angled lugs, it is just suitable on wrist sizes less than at least 7". Even if the case were smaller at 40mm, depending on your wrist shape, the watch case style may plateau out or "plank" on wrist.
@@PerthWAtch My review is up on my page. Basically, you KNOW you are buying a homage, what did you think you would get? Big props, the company was very responsive and quick to act when I had an issue with one of the screws. I bought this watch to review, will I keep it, probably for a bit. It is better than half of the homages I have bought in the past two years. The best Royal Oak homage I have tried is the CasiOak mod. But it's a quartz, which many don't like. (GShock GA 2100 with a bezel/bracelet from Aliexpress) Love your channel.
Well, actually I think the watch isn't so bad as an homage... although I do reckon San Martin does a far far better job at the same price range. The problem I was ranting more about is the sheer BS marketing the have on their website... and they have the gall to claim they are trying to advance Chinese horology!
@@PerthWAtch As a former Marketing Executive for a small manufacturing firm, I can live with the sin of over-hyping and bad copy. Honestly, if I got mad at all the bullsheet I read on watch companies web pages, I'd be mad all the time.
So I’m coming back to this video after just now watching another review of one of their models. A Chinese speaker commented on the video that actually the brand is pronounced face three. He says it is the Chinese “Fei” plus C plus 3. Does that make sense to you? All this time we’ve been making feces jokes.
If the watch is made in China, I would not spend more than $50.00 for it. Anything more than that, I would go to the Alibaba website for more less the product but at a cheaper price..
How in the hell you wash the dishes then? 😂😂...but seriously Ivan...the Casio F series can take almost the beating on everything...if its broken...just throw it out and get another one 😆😆
You can buy that exact watch for less than $50 from alibaba, it’s just a Chinese knock off with a different name on the dial. This is another company following the MVMT way of selling watches, cheap crap with a huge markup.
Different name means not this exact watch. It may be the same otherwise but you really can’t tell until you have it in hand to compare directly. Also, have you tried buying from Alibaba? It’s a wholesale site for businesses, selling in bulk - you mostly won’t be able to buy a single watch.
I did the walk of shame and bought this on a boredom whim don’t know what I was thinking . Bad idea, movement stopped in a day . It’s a bit of a dog really all in all it’s a very poor watch . I would avoid like the plague..
Certainly not an original design, and not great quality. However there are a number of companies out there simply making "knock-offs" or homages so not sure why this one deserves quite such criticism. Again not on my list of future purchases. However I'd certainly rather wear this than the Ciga design on your last review, at least you can tell the time with this.....
@@PerthWAtch Yes you made your point of view very clear. But that still doesn't change my mind about wanting a watch, regardless of the quality, to actually be a watch, and to tell the time. At no point did I say I liked this or would buy it. Neither are attractive to me for various reasons. But a choice between this and the Ciga it would be this. I guess we have a case of differing opinions
You either read it as "feis" or "feik". So it's either shit or fake. How appropriate. Is it still ok to buy watches from China now? I want to get the 1963 before war breaks out. lol
@@PerthWAtch I wasn't thinking about the coronavirus. More like the sentiment of those Chinese sellers towards Australian buyers. I'm kinda hesitant because of what the CCP has been saying about increased racist attack on Chinese visitors in Australia. They might send a crappy watch and it'll be a pain in the butt to deal with.
Fiece is a good thing to describe a small turd. Singular fiece compared to big pile. Then it is called Feces I fieced my pants. I have a fiece watch. I will never buy this because of the name. They have good watches other than this. Should name it "poo bit". Sorry, I think this because...
A bit uptight buddy. For people like me that own quite a few expensive watches like a carrera Tag and ullyse nardinor beaume riviera. The royal oak is the Best looking watch hands down. But it only cost about 75k in Montreal Canada. Now given this info the only way i see my self owning this is if i run for prime minister and become a crook like our prime minister stealing my peoples money. Till then ill probably give you thumbs down for your review and Just buy it.
Loosen up mate - you shouldn’t take this so seriously. No one is saying you should go and buy an AP. Nothing wrong with getting an homage, but there are countless available that’d be better than this one.
Well ... if you want a Royal Oak copy it seems OK ... the face is what most people will see and looks good even if the finishing isn't great ... though I agree with Ivan ... i wouldn't pay that price
Thanks for that :)
I come for the watches, I stay for the spin! Another good review man!
Haha thanks for that 👍
Makes me curious what the best Royal Oak homage is? If there is one.
If you're looking for an actual quality homage, the Pelton Perseus is very well made. Now it isn't quite 1:1, they went for a circular bezel, and there is no Clous de Paris to be found, but it's otherwise an obvious homage. Whether it's worth the $3000 asking price is a different question. I would expect more than an ETA 2824 at that price, but there's a very positive review on Average Bros that might be worth checking out.
@@BryanO92 thanks for the information I'll take a look.
Some have mentioned the Maurice LaCroix Aikon.
@@PerthWAtch unfortunately I just went on their website - really doesn't look anything like a Royal Oak to me.
What about stepping back and squinting a bit?
I managed to get one for $62, you think that's a better deal?
Sure
I bought a similar Cadisen AP Royal oak homage and only difference I see is the bracelet is solid across a d the screw in crown on the Feice is nicer than the regular crown on the Cadisen. I like this but at $68 for the Cadisen, it wins in total value
Thanks for sharing that.
Makes me chuckle reading the comments - sounds like it’s ok to ape a Rolex but nothing else haha to be fair to this piece you didn’t really raise that many negatives: essentially the size (which is very subjective), price (again subjective), movement (Seagull ST16 is actually fairly well regarded I believe for a Chinese movement) and the bracelet finishing. If you want the look of a $50k piece it’s really not that bad. Although as has been said you can get similar/same copy on Aliexpress for half the money. Although as was pointed out by Alex in the comments when you buy via Amazon you have returns policy etc so price will always be higher. The name is not the best that’s for sure and I agree with you about the sharp edges on the bracelet, pretty sharp looking. Thanks for the review Ivan 👍 p.s I love the last 2 min wrap up!! Haha soooo true - I totally agree with you.
Good to hear from you Sam! I think objectively speaking you can get better finished watches with better movements for the same price (or less). Also the finishing is actually shoddy overall, it was just easiest to show it on the bracelet links. Take care mate!
Yes I could... but I can’t be bothered right now. Just do some searching around man, you can do it!
Very thorough review, honestly looks okay from afar until you get to the finer details. I certainly wouldn't get one because cadisen have a very similar looking homage for a fraction of the price. Appreciate the honesty
Thanks for that - glad you could appreciate the review :)
The Cadisen get's not even close to this Feice !
Seiko mod
Great review as always!!! I like the spinning box even if I don’t understand the purpose of it! 🥴🥴🥴
Thanks :)
The spinability of the box is critical to overall enjoyment IMO
Perth WAtch Aaahhh...now I understand!!!
😂
Were there any issues attracting flies to your wrist while (whilst?) wearing it?
It's winter here so they're pretty dormant, but no doubt it would an issue in summer
Does the lume genuinely glow for a few hours? If so that's very impressive. My Seikos lume vanishes after about 10mins
Which Seiko is that? All my Seiko divers have pretty much best in class lume, comparable with or better than any Super-Luminova watches.
@@PerthWAtch a few Seiko 5's. But honestly, does the lume on this watch glow for a few hours? I find that really hard to believe. Like actually visible to the eye?!
It’s not that hard to believe, many $100 watches can have fair lume
could you check it with a timegrapher? see hoe accurate the watch is.
For accuracy info, please watch video for details ;)
My Pagani Hulk Homage cost half the price of that thing and is significantly better made, and with a NH35 for good measure. Cheers from the UK. Great review btw
Yep, that’s a bit of a yardstick for the price range. Thanks for that :)
Your Pagani still garbage
@@PerthWAtch we don't generally need a yardstick to measure Feices
Some don’t, some do ;)
Not a fan of Genta's designs, but at least it's not another Sub "homage"
Cheers, stay healthy 👍🏻
Thanks man, you too! 👍
@Steve - I couldn’t agree more. I’m am sick of Genta’s ugly designs.
@@DominusEstOK Genta's designs are ugly and Rolex designs are snooze-fests
@@Mister_Phafanapolis no argument from me. There are a couple of Rolex's that are alright, but overall they all seem to be the same dang watch over and over again. Nothing too exciting. Now, Grand Seiko......
It’s obviously one of those Chinese ones you can get on aliexpress for about 100$, usually the face and movement are different but the rest will all be the same. It are really good watches for that price. This is one of those brands that will sell you it for dubbel the price.
Maybe... they’re also on AliExpress for the same price.
completely agree with you. since the chinese factory is selling via Amazon, they have to cover return expenses, amazon fees...etc. hence the double price. Better off Aliexpress even though you have to wait 6 to 8 weeks to get it.
Closer to 12 weeks these days apparently...
@@PerthWAtch yes, correct. On May 10, I ordered one Parnis from Ali, but still nothing yet... :+(
Hello...Great review as always! Three q's for you; how easy is it to replace the movement, are there any eta variants that can be used instead and how many grams does the watch weigh? I just don't want to end up with a paper weight. Just heard 162g :))Thanks
Taking out the movement is the easy part, just need to take care with the hands. Reattaching the hands (especially the seconds) is the real challenge. I think ETA differ slightly in size so may not work, but I’m not 100% on this.
Chinese Specials are fun. Though I did get carried away with a couple of Parnis Datejusts at $135 each, the rest are under $60 and as low as $16. But the Feice marketing... that's a real stinker. Almost as bad as Oris' Diver 65 with 100 WR.
Oh I think it’s quite a bit below the Diver 65 concept, which I actually quite like... aesthetically at least.
Ivan, my man that was brutal but true. I don't mind homages, but when the companies start to say their stuff is "original" then it is sort of messed up, cause they know it is BS. Anyway, the price is too high for a not well-done homage, there are others who have this design and their finishing is better. Keep up the nice work and stay safe!
I certainly don't homage watches either... this one isn't great for the price IMO, just OK. It was the company marketing BS that I really didn't like.
Which watch can I get for better price in that design, any recommendations thanks
What companies have this design with better finishing? Name your sources lol
@@dk-ku4tcexactly 😂
@CeeWorld69 I actually got this feice in blue and black face, it does look rly good for its price not gonna lie
Jody would throw that directly into his "drawer of shame" :)
Sounds like a cool concept!
@@PerthWAtch I guess that we all have watches that we are not willing to admit that we pulled the trigger on, I sure do.
Hold on. Do you want the box to spin or do you want it not to spin? I am guessing better quality boxes would be less spinnable.
I want it to spin. And not true that higher quality means less spinability - I’ve seen some great boxes that spin nicely! ;)
@@PerthWAtch 🤣
Perth WAtch Have you ever spun an Omega ‘Moonwatch’ box? That would be fun to see!
I reviewed that... spinning it would’ve knocked the tripod and camera off the the table 😂
Perth WAtch Haha! 😂 Just watched that review - really enjoyable. Loved the way you filmed yourself sitting behind the giant box with only your head visible above it!
Great review
There are plenty of Chinese watch designs on aliexpress that are trying to be original.
“Trying” being the operative word!
I very much agree with your summery. If I will buy a "RO look-alike" then I spend 1200 Euro on a beautiful ML-AIKON from well known Swiss maker, and not from this "original" brand...
Haha thanks - “original” indeed!
Well I guess I'm sure a lot of people don't have €1200 to spend on a "RO look-alike".....
@@77cjam 99% of the people go with quartz witch is also more accurate, easy to wear and relible. but if you are in the 1% crazy and this is your life hobby, I guess you will get to buy a 1000Euro watch someday, this is an entry level price point
@@amitfromisrael5006 sure.......
Amit from Israel did you just say 1000 is entry level pricing? 😂
I'd honestly like to see a review of their bauhaus watches. I love Nomos and Junghans but I can't afford one. A cheaper, similarly styles watch would be nice and they have a few.
Aren’t there any reviews of those?
Enjoyed the review brother....this is definitely not for me, I am however interested in the non textured dial cadisen homage of the AP....keep them coming my friend....⌚🏴⌚🏴
Most welcome bro :)
“Spinability”? I will make this word my own. Great video. Thanks!
Thanks, but... Oi, that’s my word! ;)
Ouch, Ivan. Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel about the plagiarized crap.
I find I tend to hold back when I'm constipated...
Perth WAtch 😂🤣😂. Constipation does that for you!
The Didun Royal Oak homage is under $70 U.S. I believe... at that price it becomes more interesting.
More tenable. I didun know about that brand until people mentioned it here ;)
Not sure why they put a window back on watches when the movement hasn't been decorated
I’m guessing it’s coz they think it’s cool
So many lowend watches do that nowadays. I guess it is one extra selling point.
To watch the Feice movement spinning.
Much like after a good flush.
Hi, would you be able to recommend a good watch maker/servicer in or around Perth? Thanks!
Sure - which area do you live?
@@PerthWAtch Thanks! I'm staying in Subiaco at the moment :)
Depends a bit also on what brands etc, but I can recommend Gary Fulton who is in the CBD.
Perth WAtch thank you very much! I will drop in with him for an ETA movement that needs to be looked at
Thanks. Looking forward to the next one. :)
Most welcome :)
Hello Ivan, How are you, mate? This is the watch that I was thinking of buying, just for fun via Amazon, but I bought another exactly same looking one from Aliexpress at $80. about a year ago. I had it for a week and sold it off at eBay. For me, the main issue with this type of cheap knock-off homage watches is "feeling of detachment". It is bit amusing to have it and play with it for a day or two, but you never develop a "relationship" with your watch. You always feel remote and distant (at least, that is how I feel about it). Even for San Martin, homage Rolex watch, I owned it for a month and had to sell it because again I never felt like the watch belonged to me. San Martin Rolex homage is a fantastic watch, great value, very very well made (much better than Tisell), but somehow I did not feel that good wearing it day and night. The only Rolex homage watch (or any homage watch) that I really like now is Ginault Ocean Rover I and II which both I own for a while. Perhaps because it is not 100% knock off and it certainly does look, feel and works like few thousand dollars watch.
Anyway, going back to this Feces... sorry, Feice watch, if someone really would like to have one, better to buy one off Aliexpress at a half price. Own it for a while and if you get tired of it, just sell it at eBay at $65.00. not whole lot of loss...
Thanks for this interesting review (which I can really relate to) and have a wonderful day, Ivan.
Some more good thoughts there... I think you are wise to sell those ones as soon as you knew you were not getting that connection. If only I would be as disciplined! That San Martin sounds like a winner... I might have to try to get my hands on one of those!
So, if I buy two, will those be Fieces? Late?
If you own more than one, then you would be full of it ;)
Any suggestions on a skeleton watch under $300?
Hmm interesting
Feice Skeleton AP RO homage. Looks amazing for the money. There are at least 3 great reviews on YT. I know it's late, but you might still be interested in it
Here here... well said ,their models just look like everything else on Ali-X but at more than twice the price lol,well cheeky & to add a bs story as well ,at least that other company you reviewed the other day designed their own, granted you couldn't tell the time for sh*t but it was theirs with a bs story .Great overview ,hope you went n had some meditation afterwards hehe 😉
Haha thanks for that... yes indeed CIGA designed their own thing, illegible though it is. Feices, well... I obviously have issues with them!
I appreciate your honesty. I agree with you about the company ‘philosophy’. Copying watches in all ways but the name isn’t original and the website isn’t exactly honest. Sounds like a shady company imo and like you said: not such a good advert for Chinese horology. That said, I love the Royal Oak so even a copy is nice to look at design-wise and I enjoyed your review 🙂
Thanks for that - glad you could enjoy the review :)
Hiya again. Good review. Yes I do like the Genta designs but I think with a cheapish homage a decent quartz movement would make more sense. Hold on a minute .....Casio g2100!!! And that's half this price and at least a modern twist on the design. Bang! Cheers as per,Len.
Hahaha never thought that was Genta inspired!
@@PerthWAtch It could have been perceived by reviewers with no intention from Casio. Non the less I think it is a modern twist on an old but good design? You can't buy them for love nor money in the UK. Someone obviously loves them. Cheers.
Great review got a similar watch hopefully coming from AliExpress a Didun Design, Great Review!
Yeah I didun know about that brand until people mentioned it here. Then again, I think they probably didun actually design anything on their watches ;)
@@PerthWAtch Hahaha
Well done and well said sir! Thanks for another great review!
My pleasure :)
You can get Cadisen version with Seiko NH36A on Aliexpress for US$66 and I have a $25 AP from Paulareis which i think has the same seagull movement and quite good finishing for what it cost
The Cadisen also has sapphire and solid ends? If so it's overall probably better.
@@PerthWAtch It does not have sapphire but it does have the Seiko movement. It's likely similar in quality for less than half the price.
@@MeanE The updated Cadisen 42mm has a sapphire crystal. For about $80 it's crazy good value.
Feice sounds a bit like faeces looks like that's quite fitting. Gr8 honest review. I value your opinion.
Thanks for that - glad you enjoy the reviews :)
This is more shameless than Pagani 'Design' 😂 I like the detailing on the dial though, at least they've done thay well!
I think you're right, possibly more shameless!
Feice........Feice?? no, wait.....Hang on a minute!......Faeces......Faeces?? Yep, Faeces!!! Great video BTW!!
I think they told me it’s “Feices” ;)
not sure what they were thinking to make exhibition case back with that movement!
Yeah, although they’re not alone in doing that
For the unitiated $200 for a watch looking very close to a Nomos Llambda would be tempting. Even I questioned paying $10,000 for the original...for a few seconds.
And then you pulled the trigger??
@@PerthWAtch I tried, believe me. They sold out quickly, but I love that dial. Not willing to spend more than twice just for a gold case though.
Sooo it’s essentially a didun design Royal Oak from a year or so ago..... but they rebranded it and added £100 or so onto the aliexpress price?
Didun Design? Sorry, I didun know about that brand and you can be sure they didn’t design anything on a watch like this ;)
Perth WAtch a couple years back there was a Royal Oak homage by a company called “didun design” on aliexpress, they were quite popular and well built but only cost about £50 nowadays a lot of companies offer these homages really similar to that watch..... with either a miyota quartz or Chinese automatic movement... just like the didun design..... but ask a couple 100 pounds/dollars for them! Great video btw :)
Fantastic review, agree 100 percent with your assessment. I think it shows that sometimes the obsession with marketing spin doesn’t build a lasting brand
Thanks for that man :)
Well this brand has been out since 2009 I believe, so it’s lasting so far 😂
Possibly fake news mate, should fact check that
@@PerthWAtch FЄICƎ, AKA-Feike (飞克), was founded in 2009 in Shenzhen, with the goal of producing high quality Chinese made watches for the domestic market. The following year, the decision was made to concentrate on Bauhaus style timepieces.
Fiece was first founded in 2009. Their goal was to prove that not all Chinese watches are low quality. They wanted to produce Chinese watches that would have greater perceived value than what people were accustomed to.
Feice first became known for their Bauhaus styled watches. The Bauhaus style originated as a German school of thought. Watches in this style focus on simplicity. The goal there is to keep actual watch functions basic, and form a style off of this base.
Everything about companies are online mate, just use Google lol. I knew this because I saw this a little while ago
What is INDISEE ?
I don’t know
I got one and the links didn’t want to come out they were all stripped or some crap
Yeah that’s coz it’s a piece of Feice!
Smash it Ivan. Smash it now.
You no like the watch?
The finishing is really important to explain to people that think they're getting a High Horology piece for 200 hundred dollars only because of the fact it looks like a expensive piece.
I get what you mean... I think...
@@PerthWAtch probably should have worded it better . Guess what I was trying to get across is you get what you pay for . For that price the quality not going to be anywhere close to the real deal . Think the brand Dundin not sure how to spell the name but there said to be another fairly nice copy of the watch you reviewed today .
No comparison to expensive pieces, even pieces at above $500, I would be silly to do that. This is worse than others at the same price range IMO.
@@PerthWAtch you did a great job explaining more or less agreeing with you and if you don't have alot of money and like these style of watches it's a great way to experience them .😉
I have the skeletonize version. Mine isn't sharp like I've seen in these reviews, I like it. It is what it is.
It is indeed! A piece of Feice ;)
Hey bro does your watch is working properly still??
@@wildlifewith4415 yes, but I wear it maybe 1 a month. I have a lot of watches.
No offence but isnt your closing statement not applicable for the Pegani 'Hulk'? Where is the innovation in that?
My closing statement of “Thanks for sticking with me, I’ll catch you guys again next time”??
@@PerthWAtch touche. Hehe. U know what i mean.
Actually no... I am not sure which statement you are referring to.
@@PerthWAtch the one about the lack of innovation of the company that makes the Feice. Whats the innovation in a Pagani Hulk? Pagani also takes An existing watch etc..or did You mean to say that the producer of Feice markets the watch like it's innovating while Pegani does not? Good video by the way.
Sounds like you agree with me 👍
Yeah I had one of these for about five minutes and shipped it back, it was pretty horrific, but you get what you pay for! Love the videos man, just published one myself and I have to say I am in awe of how much effort it takes just to get ten minutes of content onto the screen! Keep it up!
I would say you’re getting less than what you pay for, in comparison with what else you can get for $200...
@@PerthWAtch I agree, you can find some older new stock Glycine's in the $300 USD range and they have selittas in them!
Only thing i disagree with is the water resistance, 30 meters is still 90 feet, recreational diving is recommended at 180 or something. Soo ehhh I can’t swim 90 feet underwater 🤷🏻♂️ not on a breathe hold at least. And if you have a 90 foot bathtub or pool, you’re probably pretty awesome! Lol
That’s coz you don’t understand the implications of the water rating. It’s not just about static resistance in lab conditions. Look it up, including water resistance charts from people who make watches ;)
Theres a typo in the title: "Perth WAtch". Also, I really dislike their logo, even ignoring the "original". The mix of angular and curved fonts just doesn't work at all.
It’s not a typo. Have a guess why the A is capitalised ;)
@@PerthWAtch When do we find out the answer? :-)
Robert King Perth WAtch is based is WA - Western Australia 🇦🇺
@@samuelball8775 Thanks!
Perth WAtch Clever, I’ve never noticed that before now.
Damn dude, even I felt bad for the company after that tongue lashing hahaha!!
I reckon it would've fallen on deaf ears...
Well said brother!
Thanks :)
Looks gorgeous to me!!!
It’s just skin deep mate...
man..another Oak.....🤭🤘🏻😎 ..but then again, isn’t AP Royal Oak an homage of the Bulova Royal Oak..? kidding!! 😬😬😬😬😅....
anyway..great video, Ivan...
Hahaha be careful where you say that... you might have to dodge stones man! :)
When you talk about their originality, and they burnish their “Bauhaus” homage, which company are you saying it’s a near copy of? [At ~13:50]
It sounds like you’re saying “Slander” (but I admit I can be misunderstanding way European manufacturers’ names can be pronounced).
The watch they copied was the Nomos Lambda.
@@PerthWAtchthanks
Too much money for what it is, thy will have to drop the price for it to shift, too many better homages at a lower price and decent quality. Regards.
Yep, certainly some of the same thoughts I had
personally the best valued Rolex homage is San Martin, as Ivan mentioned. incredible value for the money.
and I thought Pagani design was taking the Mikey !!!!!!! I think the plural says it all! :-)
As in Feice Originals? ;D
This is no different to SM, Pagani, Phlida or Courgert watches they all make near 1:1 copies off the sub or Seamasters so I don't see what the difference is! Anyway, I'm not into any Homage watches anymore. Cheers mate...
You don’t see because you don’t perceive carefully - watch again ;)
I don't understand why homage watch makers don't go quartz. Clearly anyone buying this is only concerned about the aesthetics, so why not incorporate something cheaper and more accurate? Obviously you would have to give up transparent case backs... but was that a selling point?
The reason is because whenever there is a choice to go for an automatic vs a quartz, the former still proves to be more desirable amongst those who go for homage designs.
Too expensive....sorry.
Apology accepted ;)
Looks good but sounds a bid jangly sort of tinny.
Oh believe me it is a piece of Feice!
Pretty nice at a glance, but if I would want a Royal Oak homage I would go for a Maurice Lacroix Aikon. Great quality and a little bit more of personality even though with a higher price.
Isn’t that something like 15x higher price?
@@PerthWAtch yes, sure. It's almost 2k €. At that price you can consider a lot of other watches, but the quality is there
I don't care for the Royal Joke. Its a solid meh. It does have a seagull instead of a Tongi and a sapphire glass that is to their credit.
At $200 it would be shocking to just have a Tongji!
I used to own a Didun Design. Same watch
I've seen that one on Aliexpress. How was it?
I didun know about that brand... then again, they probably didun actually design anything on their watches ;)
@@karlsenula9495 great value for money and well made. I paid about £70 but mine didn't have sapphire
Yes and Didun is much much cheaper 😄
@@karlsenula9495 They are crap! Mine fell apart the crown just fell out one day! And the dial wasn't aligned up very well! It was a crap heap!!
Barring the brand's questionable, self-proclaimed story, mission statement about themselves and their products, they did an ok job for the price. But, like u said, for about as much, less or a little more, probably can have a much higher quality product.
But, I think 42mm is too big for that style.. the problem is the 52mm lug to lug. With such a straight and flat case with very short angled lugs, it is just suitable on wrist sizes less than at least 7". Even if the case were smaller at 40mm, depending on your wrist shape, the watch case style may plateau out or "plank" on wrist.
Yep agreed about the size issue there. As for this being ok... I think the fact you can get better for the same money or less makes this not ok.
Review the reef tiger dress watch plz
You got one to lend me?
No brother i asked for the review so I'd know if i should buy it or not. I'm not rich guy though, have to be careful before a purchase
@@PerthWAtch no bro I'm planning to buy one, love your opinion before pulling a trigger
I can’t give an opinion if I don’t have the watch, so you’ll need to find someone who can lend it to me
If it were chronograph I'd buy one.
If it were a chronograph, it wouldn’t be a price of Feice
@@PerthWAtch I don't know what that means.
Sorry, Apple correct - I meant “it wouldn’t be a piece of Feice”
@@PerthWAtch I like the watch, but I wear chronographs exclusively. If I ever find it as a chronograph I'll definitely buy it.
over price？
What you think?
He called the dial design a tapestry lol. Tappisserie man
He called it that because they called it that. Check it out mate ;)
Not a fan of the original. I will have to pass..
I get what you mean
Didun with Feice name :D
Really? I didun know that!
@@PerthWAtch they look identical to me...
You should join live streaming with the pontiff
No actually, I should not.
@@PerthWAtch keep away from that nut. An offensive man in every way.
Is it possible their name is pronounced “Feh-itchy”?
No
Hmmm what if you own 2 Feice's ? erm
Then you would be full of it ;)
🤣
I hope you washed your wrist thoroughly after strapping on that piece of Feices.
Whole body alcohol scrub mate!
Bwahaha... Good one.. thumbs up.
Haha thanks :)
Screws on the bezel look like they are bashed in by a tyre lever.
Yep, that’s the AP look ;)
You you own multiple Feice watches, does that mean you own alot of feaces????
Owning multiple would mean that you are full of it ;)
@@PerthWAtch ha so very true
Harsh, man. It's a $170 watch.
Was there any part you disagreed with?
@@PerthWAtch My review is up on my page. Basically, you KNOW you are buying a homage, what did you think you would get? Big props, the company was very responsive and quick to act when I had an issue with one of the screws. I bought this watch to review, will I keep it, probably for a bit. It is better than half of the homages I have bought in the past two years. The best Royal Oak homage I have tried is the CasiOak mod. But it's a quartz, which many don't like. (GShock GA 2100 with a bezel/bracelet from Aliexpress) Love your channel.
Well, actually I think the watch isn't so bad as an homage... although I do reckon San Martin does a far far better job at the same price range. The problem I was ranting more about is the sheer BS marketing the have on their website... and they have the gall to claim they are trying to advance Chinese horology!
@@PerthWAtch As a former Marketing Executive for a small manufacturing firm, I can live with the sin of over-hyping and bad copy. Honestly, if I got mad at all the bullsheet I read on watch companies web pages, I'd be mad all the time.
Fair enough. The marketing paradoxes on their website was the worst I have seen though...
So I’m coming back to this video after just now watching another review of one of their models. A Chinese speaker commented on the video that actually the brand is pronounced face three. He says it is the Chinese “Fei” plus C plus 3. Does that make sense to you? All this time we’ve been making feces jokes.
No, that doesn’t make sense to me. Can you share the video link?
@@PerthWAtch ruclips.net/video/tzkX8xnwm-I/видео.html
Nope, doesn't make sense at all, and the guy didn't provide any substantiation whatsoever.
If the watch is made in China, I would not spend more than $50.00 for it. Anything more than that, I would go to the Alibaba website for more less the product but at a cheaper price..
You can’t get it from Alibaba - that’s a wholesale portal for businesses to buy in bulk.
Feices, because you can't have just one
Apparently everybody needs just one more watch ;)
They need to change their name
Yep that’s what I said
30 m...
Better to by a much cheaper one off AliExpress then? Might not be worse in any way...
You might well be right there
30 meters? I wouldn’t swim, shower, wash my hands or make tea with that watch on.
Yep. I don’t wash dishes with anything less than 200m water resistance.
I swim with my Casio F94W...take a shower with it...wash dishes , bike and car...still not even a drop of water went inside the watch 😎✨
Good for you! All the same, you haven’t seen the way I wash dishes ;)
How in the hell you wash the dishes then? 😂😂...but seriously Ivan...the Casio F series can take almost the beating on everything...if its broken...just throw it out and get another one 😆😆
Yes that’s true!
You can buy that exact watch for less than $50 from alibaba, it’s just a Chinese knock off with a different name on the dial. This is another company following the MVMT way of selling watches, cheap crap with a huge markup.
Different name means not this exact watch. It may be the same otherwise but you really can’t tell until you have it in hand to compare directly.
Also, have you tried buying from Alibaba? It’s a wholesale site for businesses, selling in bulk - you mostly won’t be able to buy a single watch.
Perth WAtch try AliExpress then for the same watch, there’s lots of them on there.
Yeah I did - see my link?
The same watch costs what I said.
I did the walk of shame and bought this on a boredom whim don’t know what I was thinking . Bad idea, movement stopped in a day . It’s a bit of a dog really all in all it’s a very poor watch . I would avoid like the plague..
Well I would be inclined to agree
Wow🤩
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I think feice might be pronounced as ‘face.’ But you know better.
Nah I don’t think so...
If only they would make it in a more normal size like 38-39mm
I guess. It would then be a little piece of Feice ;)
8th !!!!
Woohoo!
238th !!!! 😀
Certainly not an original design, and not great quality. However there are a number of companies out there simply making "knock-offs" or homages so not sure why this one deserves quite such criticism. Again not on my list of future purchases. However I'd certainly rather wear this than the Ciga design on your last review, at least you can tell the time with this.....
Not sure why? Did you watch to the end of the video? Pretty sure I made myself very clear why.
@@PerthWAtch Yes you made your point of view very clear. But that still doesn't change my mind about wanting a watch, regardless of the quality, to actually be a watch, and to tell the time. At no point did I say I liked this or would buy it. Neither are attractive to me for various reasons. But a choice between this and the Ciga it would be this. I guess we have a case of differing opinions
Oh this certainly tells the time far better than that CIGA Design, no one can argue against that.
You either read it as "feis" or "feik". So it's either shit or fake. How appropriate.
Is it still ok to buy watches from China now? I want to get the 1963 before war breaks out. lol
Given that the transit time is like 2 months at least, I think any pathogens would've died out by the time it reaches you...
@@PerthWAtch I wasn't thinking about the coronavirus. More like the sentiment of those Chinese sellers towards Australian buyers. I'm kinda hesitant because of what the CCP has been saying about increased racist attack on Chinese visitors in Australia. They might send a crappy watch and it'll be a pain in the butt to deal with.
Hmm... interesting... never thought about that aspect nor heard of any experiences in the matter actually.
Fiece is a good thing to describe a small turd.
Singular fiece compared to big pile. Then it is called Feces
I fieced my pants. I have a fiece watch.
I will never buy this because of the name.
They have good watches other than this.
Should name it "poo bit".
Sorry, I think this because...
Ah yes agreed, but this is a totally different brand name - Feice (not Fiece).
Would you buy that?
@@PerthWAtch yes. Fierce is better
Horrible patacca😂
It is 😂
@@PerthWAtch of course :) Chinese stuff
A bit uptight buddy.
For people like me that own quite a few expensive watches like a carrera Tag and ullyse nardinor beaume riviera.
The royal oak is the Best looking watch hands down.
But it only cost about 75k in Montreal Canada.
Now given this info the only way i see my self owning this is if i run for prime minister and become a crook like our prime minister stealing my peoples money.
Till then ill probably give you thumbs down for your review and Just buy it.
Loosen up mate - you shouldn’t take this so seriously.
No one is saying you should go and buy an AP. Nothing wrong with getting an homage, but there are countless available that’d be better than this one.