Shooting Real Estate Videos in LOG: Is It Worth It?
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- In this video we tackle a question that I've personally have struggled with over the years which is: Is it worth it to shoot real estate videos in a log picture profile in order to get more dynamic range? In the video I will compare standard footage to LOG and see what the difference in dynamic range actually is.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:17 What is a LOG profile?
4:34 Shooting the clips
12:29 Clip Comparison
22:18 Outro
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If you use the gamma display assist while shooting Slog 3 which helps you get accurate white balance.. and using the neutral "phantom lut " your work flow will be the same as shooting in pp1 tweaking every clip .. all while having way better dynamic range ... you can also shoot 12,800 in SLog 3 with minimal noise if you need it in a dark room
Regardless if you shoot in log or Pp1 you're gonna have to hit the hue saturation tab to mute some of that orange tungsten light out depending on the actual scene ...
Some people are hellbent on doing these big productions for real estate when they are only charging a few hundred dollars. I think your time is more valuable unless you are getting paid.
I think anyone who's able to do RE photography to a high standard can figure out how to expose when shooting log. It's easy using a histogram. As for a complicated workflow in post - you can simply use the manufacturers technical LUT to change it from log to rec709 - it takes no time. I'm a bit confused by the debate to be honest... I think 99% of the RE video guys are shooting log, along with the rest of the film and video industry.
The view out the window can be a significant selling point for the room. I'd shot in SLog3 and add the LUT of your choice. That shouldn't change much from room to room. Make sure you can adjust highlights pre LUT as that might change depending on where the window is relative to the sun when you shoot. Consider how important bracketing is to real estate photos. If you can close to that with windows during video you may outclass your competitors.
Couple of things to bear in mind. Some interiors are dark - this combined with a bright day outside can make dealing with windows challenging. 2 not all cameras can use high frame rates to the extent of using a shutter speed of 1/250 .
Great video. Curious if you might have edited a (exact) complete video using both techniques and timing each so that you might determine a % time increased to using the LOG process (shoot & edit) and translating that to costs? Maybe then you could charge a premium "price bump" to offer that extra if the client wants it. I am curious in your experience what the time increase was using the LOG technique. If not that might be a great video to make. Breaking it down to numbers.
I dont know man, but I love shooting my RE videos in CLog3. I did the switch like 3 properties ago and man... I do see the difference brother! Day and night, lol. I mean, It does add maybe 5 minutes of tweaking on the turnaround but I don't mind bc the pay off is so big. Maybe SLog and CLog aren't as closely regarded as I thought. IDK, subjective, Amirite? 🤷🏻♂
What external monitor would you recommend for Sony a7iv?
This is a nice comparison. I’m not sure there’s enough difference to justify the extra time for log. The lighting in every room will probably be different and exterior lighting conditions will also play a role in the window view. I’d probably stick with the standard profile unless the realtor was willing to pay extra money for log, which most wouldn’t. The best case scenario would be to video the interior on an overcast day or early or late in the day, which would surely create a mess with scheduling. Sometimes we just have to do the best we can, within reason, with what we have to work with. Nice video.
I stopped using my A7S3 and now use my iPhone 15 Pro Max with the Blackmagic App. The dynamic range is fantastic, have complete control with the blackmagic app and I have to say blows away the A7S3 standard profile and log profiles with dynamic range. I mount it on my DJI Ronin RS3 so it looks more professional.....but the outcome is amazing.
Really that’s hard to believe the Iphone 15 has better dynamic range than A7siii?
@@HiFocusedCinematography I was surprised too after starting to use if for all RE videos. I know a few others that started to use the iPhone 15 Pro Max for video. It sad....but blows away the A7S3's dynamic range and several others. Here's a video, minus the drone shots.....everything was done on the iPhone 15 Pro Max. ruclips.net/video/Cw-urllVGiQ/видео.htmlsi=wUbpv-aNb4Y-pfKL
Do you shoot in log? Or another way?
Have you got any online examples cheers👍
@@steveparkins6854 Yes. Minus the drone video shots.....all of the interiors were shot on the iPhone. ruclips.net/video/ymr_W4iH-18/видео.htmlsi=_DQWFSparpCPVZdO
After 2 years of shooting in SLOG3, I finally threw in the towel a few weeks ago. The amount of time required to get it "just right" in post was insane. Now I shoot in PP off, NT with a few tweaks (highlights/shadows -2, saturation +2). Works like a charm!
Hi have you got any online examples? Cheers
@@steveparkins6854 Most of the videos shot on my YT channel in the past 6 months have been shot with PP off. Many were also recorded in 1080p and then upscaled to 4k. Let me know what you think!
What lens would you recommend for Sony alpha a6400? I’m a newbie
Sony 10-18mm or something in that focal range
I shoot PP8 SLOG3 with A7siii i think it’s really not much more work. As long as you overexpose and either shoot 640 or 12800 ISO. I typically use the Gerald Undone LUT and turn down contrast. I also find it way better color when shooting people with their skin tone.
Log is worth it. I’d consider shooting 60fps so you can lower your shutter speed or shooting iso 12800 and closing your aperture for a sharper image. 120fps also has a 1.1 crop, taking 16mm to 17.6mm. In my opinion, that is too tight. I choose to shoot 12mm to 16mm on my wide shots.
Thanks for the video, mate👊
Seems pretty quick and easy to just drop a LUT.
A74 can shoot in 10 bit
Not in 120fps
Unless you use the S&Q mode
Anything that gives me more dynamic range is worth it. I like to be able to see out the windows.
In my opinion, it is about delivering a high quality video and there is no way PP1 will ever be as good as SLOG3. I use Davinci so I have color grade presets set up in Powergrade folder so everytime I create a new project they are available. Too simple. You are making minor tweaks on PP1 and I am doing same with SLOG3 which I would bet that will always look better than PP1. Sorry I think you are giving out some pretty cruddy advice.
Log or bust
Please stop using "YOU KNOW"!!
I understand but, this is annoying and, if 'I KNOW', I never saw any video to lear about something.
Sorry but...
Go somewhere else then. What’s so difficult about that?
OMG can I get a refund in my 10 minutes lost
How much did you pay for Mike's hard work in the first place? It's a pretty small refund.
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