@@mmcneil777 Garve deserves that spot, for sure! Almost a California triple-play, too: L.A., S.D.--sour grapes bullying, because he never got to represent S.F.? We need to see the man slide into home: the HoF for the Garve! 🏆🫡
Absolutely right. And the fact that Garvey doesn't even acknowledge the possibility of that fact means that, unlike Reggie, HE has yet to be completely honest about that play.
YOU S.O.B., I was going to type that exact response, and then I saw you were the first comment. Well done, sir. You obviously know your baseball, and have a better memory than Steve Garvey.
Jackson only shifted maybe 2 inches at the most, but the bottom line is it was a legal play because it was very subtle and he wasn't out of the baseline. A smart play.
It's funny, if you watch the play, Russell could have easily tagged the runner on 2nd, then stepped on 2nd for the double play, never needing to throw to 1st.
Garvey’s de-emphasizing the way Russell handled the ball to try to coax a double play... Gamesmanship cuts a lot of ways... I remember watching Jackson’s move when it happened and thought, “What’s good for the goose is good for the gander...”
That entire Cey, Russel, Lopes, Garvey infield should be inducted as a unit. Starting for 8.5 years together. I remember we Dodger Fans would fill out Tons of All Star ballots to get our guys into the All Star Game. So much so that one year the National League team simply started this Dodger infield as a unit to begin the All Star Game. Don’t remember which year that was. Maybe 1979 or ‘80?
10mmguy That was no “short hop.” Garvey is being dishonest. Russell purposely dropped the ball to try to get a double play and Reggie made him pay for it.
Saw Garvey play 3rd a few times at Dodger Stadium. Wild arm 3rd baseman is an understatement. It was a miracle if he threw it in the dugout. Switched to first and the rest is history.
Russell short hopped the ball my dimpled petunia. He intentionally dropped the ball to induce a double play. Reggie saw that and he said, two can play that game.
He's probably more like 5'8 1/2 or 5'9. I saw him in person and he is fairly short. Stout, but short. He generated his power from his legs and those Popeye for arms. Great player and interesting to see him in person. I think Ron Cey was fairly short as well.
Yeah, "baseball card heights" are always given with a one inch shoe advantage, and sometimes exaggerated even more. Reggie Jackson was always listed at 6 ft, he was maybe 5 ft 10 1/2, probably 5 ft 10, like 5 ft 9 now as an old man.
Garvey... My family lived at Doger Statium , and Steve was my secret fantasy... " never told my husband" ! If Garvey was in town , we were at the game! Now , my two boys and my husband will be voting for the great #6 ... Garvey! Oh my gosh... We love you Steve... You have our family votes.
I hated the Yankees even more after that play... (Fact check: I also thought it was the tying run that scored on the play, but it wasn't -- that run ( by Munson) put the Yanks within 1 , to 3-2, but they would go on to tie it , and then win in extra innings Also, Russell didn't "shorthop" it- it hit his glove and fell out. In fact, he may have ILLEGALY dropped it on PURPOSE.)
There was ‘may have’ … Russell was trying the old ‘oopsy’ drop play to coax a dp…. The umps let it slide and Reggie saw that and did his own ‘oopsy’ in response…. That’s the truth.
Understood. Given that logic, you must have really despised the royals after mcrae knocked Willie Randolph into left field. It is what it is. You still gotta win the game as the dodgers fell apart in game 5.
I was a diehard Reds fan back in the 70s, and these guys were our absolute enemies, but damn if as time has passed I don’t find myself respecting & loving these guys & what they represented back in the day. 💪🇺🇸🫡
Other than Shoeless Joe and Rose, Garvey is probably the greatest player not to be in the Hall of Fame. I mean, if you are putting the likes of Goose Gossage and Scott Rolen in, you gotta induct Garvey.
Big Dodger fan here....If Bill Russell was a good fielding shortstop, I would believe that he intentionally dropped that line drive. (it was not "short hopped" as Garvey stated) However, Russell was an average fielder who apparently wasn't very smart either. All he had to do was tag a "frozen" Thurmon Munson (who was still lingering around 2nd base) and step on 2nd base for the inning-ending double play! Instead, Russell steps on 2nd base and throws to first. Jackson then sticks his hip out to block the ball and the ball ends up rolling toward the dugout. Munson then scores and Pinella (the batter) ends up in scoring position. Russell's lack of smarts most likely cost the Dodgers the game and perhaps the World Series. From that day on, I never liked Bill Russell. Not only was he a poor fielder, but he wasn't very intelligent either!
I wonder why Garvey claims Russell short hopped the ball? Russell dropped it, probably intentionally. Maybe Russell is wrong about the second base umpire too?
Talking about Jackson's interference play in '78 WS. It all started with Bill Russell intentionally dropping the ball, and then not tagging Munson, who was standing right in front of him. Just catch the damn ball and make the tag and there's your DP. Reggie had nothing to lose he was out anyways, so why not. And he got away with it because an AL umpire was too chicken sh!t to make the call.
For his hairstyle alone in that era (we called it the 'Garve Carve' 😂), Steve Garvey belongs in the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. 🏆
@@mmcneil777 Garve deserves that spot, for sure! Almost a California triple-play, too: L.A., S.D.--sour grapes bullying, because he never got to represent S.F.? We need to see the man slide into home: the HoF for the Garve! 🏆🫡
Russell did not short-hop it. He intentionally dropped it (which is illegal), to cause a double play.
Absolutely right. And the fact that Garvey doesn't even acknowledge the possibility of that fact means that, unlike Reggie, HE has yet to be completely honest about that play.
Finally! Someone else saw this too! I been saying this for 30 years!
Russell did, you are correct.
YOU S.O.B., I was going to type that exact response, and then I saw you were the first comment. Well done, sir. You obviously know your baseball, and have a better memory than Steve Garvey.
Not illegal....thats a lie
Jackson's 'lean' was a brilliant play that every good base runner should have also made. Jackson rolled the dice and won.
It helped the Russell screwed the play up twice.
Steve should be in the Hall.Thats all I'm sayin.
Jackson only shifted maybe 2 inches at the most, but the bottom line is it was a legal play because it was very subtle and he wasn't out of the baseline. A smart play.
Garvey -- A Michigan State legend ... Go Green !
It's funny, if you watch the play, Russell could have easily tagged the runner on 2nd, then stepped on 2nd for the double play, never needing to throw to 1st.
Munson was right there to be tagged. Russell had tunnel vision
Russell was never known for his defense. Or, come to think of it, for his offense either.
Correct. He drop the ball and instead of tagged Munson he decide to do it the hard way.
Garvey’s de-emphasizing the way Russell handled the ball to try to coax a double play...
Gamesmanship cuts a lot of ways...
I remember watching Jackson’s move when it happened and thought, “What’s good for the goose is good for the gander...”
great point
Russell was a genius for that play.....it just didnt work out for them.....he did nothing illegal
Garvey should be in the HOF! Though he didn't reach those HOF milestones, he was a great player and always made his teams better.
That entire Cey, Russel, Lopes, Garvey infield should be inducted as a unit. Starting for 8.5 years together. I remember we Dodger Fans would fill out Tons of All Star ballots to get our guys into the All Star Game. So much so that one year the National League team simply started this Dodger infield as a unit to begin the All Star Game. Don’t remember which year that was. Maybe 1979 or ‘80?
That's not a qualification.
@@RobertJohnson-bj5lk
Just stop
10mmguy
That was no “short hop.” Garvey is being dishonest. Russell purposely dropped the ball to try to get a double play and Reggie made him pay for it.
Saw Garvey play 3rd a few times at Dodger Stadium. Wild arm 3rd baseman is an understatement. It was a miracle if he threw it in the dugout. Switched to first and the rest is history.
Russell short hopped the ball my dimpled petunia. He intentionally dropped the ball to induce a double play. Reggie saw that and he said, two can play that game.
He's probably more like 5'8 1/2 or 5'9. I saw him in person and he is fairly short. Stout, but short. He generated his power from his legs and those Popeye for arms. Great player and interesting to see him in person. I think Ron Cey was fairly short as well.
Yeah, "baseball card heights" are always given with a one inch shoe advantage, and sometimes exaggerated even more. Reggie Jackson was always listed at 6 ft, he was maybe 5 ft 10 1/2, probably 5 ft 10, like 5 ft 9 now as an old man.
@@davidcadwallader434 not even close
@@davidcadwallader434??
@@davidcadwallader434 no way Garvey was 5-6. Maybe 5-9
Cey was the penguin
Steve Garvey should be in the Hall Of Fame!!! It's criminal he's not in already...
He was very good, not great. Just because he was your favorite player doesn't make him a good candidate.
I'm not a Dodger (or Padre) fan. Garvey belongs in Cooperstown.
This dude should be in the HOF
no, he shouldn't.
@@hughdismuke4703
Yes, he should. Brilliant clutch hitter and tremendous fielder.
Steve has aged well. He's become 'cooler' as he's gotten older.
Garvey... We lived at Doger Statium , and Steve was my secret fantasy... Now , my two boys and my husband will be voting for the great #6 ... Garvey!
What a bad taste he has in sox.
Excellent share
OMG, this is hilarious.
Garvey: "...a little louder, Reg." Lmao!
Garvey... My family lived at Doger Statium , and Steve was my secret fantasy... " never told my husband" ! If Garvey was in town , we were at the game! Now , my two boys and my husband will be voting for the great #6 ... Garvey! Oh my gosh... We love you Steve... You have our family votes.
Lies.
I worked for MLB during All-Star week in Anaheim. I was assinged to drive Garvey and Wills around one day. Really nice polite guys.
I hated the Yankees even more after that play...
(Fact check: I also thought it was the tying run that scored on the play, but it wasn't -- that run ( by Munson) put the Yanks within 1 , to 3-2, but they would go on to tie it , and then win in extra innings
Also, Russell didn't "shorthop" it- it hit his glove and fell out. In fact, he may have ILLEGALY dropped it on PURPOSE.)
There was ‘may have’ … Russell was trying the old ‘oopsy’ drop play to coax a dp…. The umps let it slide and Reggie saw that and did his own ‘oopsy’ in response…. That’s the truth.
Understood. Given that logic, you must have really despised the royals after mcrae knocked Willie Randolph into left field. It is what it is. You still gotta win the game as the dodgers fell apart in game 5.
@@ThatBrothaBill
That McRae play was brutal. Tough to watch still.
Steve looks pretty good...! ....awesome...
I was a diehard Reds fan back in the 70s, and these guys were our absolute enemies, but damn if as time has passed I don’t find myself respecting & loving these guys & what they represented back in the day. 💪🇺🇸🫡
Garvey gives off used car salesman vibe...eternally!
Still crying 😭
geez have a bigger mic!
I was eleven, a Yankee fan (after the Mets were eliminated, of course), knew Reggie definitely interfered...and loved it.
As Reggie has said, it was a sacrifice thigh.
What Met fan roots for the Yankees?
I think Garvey is off by a year. In 1973 he had already moved permanently to first. In 1972 he played mostly third, with 3 games at first.
Interesting story but, he played First Base for the dodgers in 72
He was off by a year. Happens.
That ball would have missed Reggie six inches at the most. No way it should have been thrown that close.
Meanwhile Russell drops a ball to set up the Reggie hip .
he played 3 games in 72 at 1B
He meant 72, not 73.
Decades of Dodgers crying over a play.
Couldn't cry when Reggie deep-sixed them in '77. Wow. What a player.
Not only that, but the Dodgers lost a pivotal Game 4 by that play, and eventually the series.
I saw no tears.
Other than Shoeless Joe and Rose, Garvey is probably the greatest player not to be in the Hall of Fame. I mean, if you are putting the likes of Goose Gossage and Scott Rolen in, you gotta induct Garvey.
Why?
Garvey and Keith Hernandez. Similar players, both all time greats.
Garvey had redwoods for forearms
The Dodgers would have gone up three games to one had Reggie been called out for interference like he was supposed to have been
Big Dodger fan here....If Bill Russell was a good fielding shortstop, I would believe that he intentionally dropped that line drive. (it was not "short hopped" as Garvey stated) However, Russell was an average fielder who apparently wasn't very smart either. All he had to do was tag a "frozen" Thurmon Munson (who was still lingering around 2nd base) and step on 2nd base for the inning-ending double play! Instead, Russell steps on 2nd base and throws to first. Jackson then sticks his hip out to block the ball and the ball ends up rolling toward the dugout. Munson then scores and Pinella (the batter) ends up in scoring position. Russell's lack of smarts most likely cost the Dodgers the game and perhaps the World Series. From that day on, I never liked Bill Russell. Not only was he a poor fielder, but he wasn't very intelligent either!
Love how garvey says "I'm sorry to interrupt you" to the host lmao geez let the guest tell the story!
Russell didn’t short hop it he dropped it on purpose to get a double play and it backfired.lasorda should havereamed him out
I wonder why Garvey claims Russell short hopped the ball? Russell dropped it, probably intentionally. Maybe Russell is wrong about the second base umpire too?
Reggie not getting out of the way was even more obvious than The Immaculate Reception!
Russell didn’t short hop it. Please. Russell’s deception is what opened the gates.
Talking about Jackson's interference play in '78 WS. It all started with Bill Russell intentionally dropping the ball, and then not tagging Munson, who was standing right in front of him. Just catch the damn ball and make the tag and there's your DP. Reggie had nothing to lose he was out anyways, so why not. And he got away with it because an AL umpire was too chicken sh!t to make the call.
Dodgers ALWAYS have excuses for everything.
Let me ask you this - WHO'S IN THE HALL OF FAME AND WHO ISN'T??
Good player but never a Garvey fan. Got to meet him after he retired. Seemed like an okay guy.
Yankees won. Deal with it
is steve still bouncing checks to his maid
Is Steve still bouncing his maid?
@@footballlover1677 LOL
Jackson admitting this. Next, the immaculate reception.....
What about it??
Well, good luck in getting Franco Harris admitting much to anything with that play because he’s dead.
@@burtmaclinfbi3993
Nothing to admit anyway
@@jimwerther mmmkay, whatever.
To this day, he still whines about this. No he is not a Hall of Famer.
does steve still beat his wife, kick his dog, and steal money from his "charity"?
Carpe Diem not Semper fi, Steve.
He said Carpe diem, did he not?
Never a fan of Garvey, fake guy, though good BSer
Helluva player though