This is an era of people who were raised by single mothers and it shows. They stay in their feelings and approach everything from a feminine perspective. Look at LeBron. He reacts to things on the court just like his mother does in the stands
how would u want someone to talk about your mammy u should be ashamed of talk about single parents it’s men like u r a woman which has a who want take care of the children
I love baseball,the present players respect the legends, nbà is a plantation fighting each other.baseball history is respected by little leaguers and up
I don’t understand why in basketball they continue to disrespect former athletes/ players. I don’t see this in any other sport. This generation is comical
I believe because the sport is dominated by Black athletes and we as a race, not all of us but many of us just don’t respect each other and want to bring one another down the old crab in the barrel mentality it’s really sad.
Nothing comical about it. They think they know but don't want to watch film or study game of former players. They think what they do is better. Just ignorant.
I will take MJ, Kobe, Wade Drexler Dumars Iverson Jason Kidd over any guard from this Era. Fat Luka would always be injured in the 90s. He would need to hit the gym and bulk up because that era was very physical.
Exactly. And to put things more in context, the 3 point shot didn’t even exist for college ball when Michael Jordan was in college. That means Michael Jordan and everyone from his year and before had to develop their three-point game while they were the pros. Meanwhile kids of today, and thanks to Steph Curry and the rule changes of 2015, all practice shooting the three ball from the beginning…. Practice actually does make perfect.. They practice it more today than ever..
Let's not forget traveling is no longer called. Feel free to pickup the ball and start running with it after you pass halfcourt. There is the Gather Step, the pre-gather step, and the Why not take one more step step.
@@TOAD-uw4mh exactly and they call that “skill.” 😂😂. No . It’s called Changed the rules the favor offense. Can you imagine if Michael Jordan or Reggie Miller was able to do the James Harden one or two steps back jumpshot? lol
Right, and even though they're doing it the players of the past still don't disrespect them. They want to see the game evolve instead of going down like it has since the early 2000s.
today's era need that to validate themselves...u only hear self imposed goat on today's players...players 80's and 90's , 2k dont do that coz they went to a hard fought war game. no holds bar no hold back.
@@arkinsam7733 If you don't change your mindset, you will never evolve. ...and your mindset says everything about you. Don't get stuck in the past, remember, there were horses before cars and planes
@user-oh9fm4df5qWhat? The new superstar ball will get you cooked. Why the Euro & African players kept causing headaches during the Olympics for our guys. The seasoned players had to take over cuz they knew what they had to do. Even AE looked bewildered about how to shut their oppenents down. Evolving can also lead to devolving if not handled in the right way. Playing other countries is proving that to be true.
Yep... and I doubt if any of the players of today match in overall skill as players from the 80's like Bird, McHale Isiah Thomas, Magic, Mark Price, Kevin Johnson, Tim Hardaway, Bernard King, Adrian Dantley, Mark Aguirre, Joe Dumars, Sydney Moncreif, Charles Barkley, Dennis Johnson, Jack Sikma, Alex English, George Gervin, Hakeem, James Worthy, Dominique Wilkins, Dr. J, Moses Malone ( who tutored Hakeem), Kareem ( who was at his peak from the 70's but was still formidable in the 80's) Ralph Sampson..(who up untill his injury was the prelude to what we see now in Wemby) Marcus Johnson (who was probably the first point forward in the game played alot like Lebron) Clyde Drexler...et, etc, etc, how on earth did all these non - skilled players ever make it to the NBA and become HOFer's..is a mystery to me..explain this to me ANT
HERE'S THE FACTS : These kids judge older players based off of NBA 2k 😂 I'M SERIOUS! They think NBA 2k is real. If you can't shoot 3's in 2K you're a Plumber to them. Players from the 80' and 90's had better Centers, and PF than this generation. Point Guards back then verse this gen might be a tie. The best Wing players (SG, SF) might be Kobe's gen and now. You know why? They are all MJ's babies. The evolution of the wing player started with Jordan. They all watched him. Ask LeBron. MJ changed the NBA from being a Big Man's league. So of course Jordan didn't get a chance to play against most of his son's. 🤷🏾♂️
Information is the key, and u all 90 lovers basketball go watch again and tell me that Jordan era was good, big joke. and lebron is not the goat so don't call me lebron fan,Jordan era is the most overrated Era.
@@ronenvavshet6949how you figure that?? More than half of the players on that all time 75 greatest players ever team come from the 80s and 90s. Evidently, they did something right. In today’s game you can’t hand check and they also added an additional step. It was much harder to score in the Magic/Bird/Jordan era. There’s a reason why players today still go to visit Hakeem Olajuwon to learn how to play in the post.
The Cupcake Era. Chugging 3 points, getting away with traveling, flopping (pioneered by the GOAT of Flopping himself), biased refs (aka the LeRefs), Vegas betting, rigged IST championship, etc That very well explains why the NBA ratings are down. Simple as that.
@@thebartertownconglomerate But this era is not more skilled. It just appears so because the rules don’t allow defense so there’s no opposition to the offense/competition. In addition they added an extra step and guys still travel. So how is that more skilled?
@@CurtisT1019True. Also, players today seem to rely more upon athleticism than honed skills. It's pretty easy to practice one shot all the time (3-ball), and call that player a skilled player. But can that particular player also rebound, score from the midrange, take it to the basket, play defense, etc?
@@ronenvavshet6949Giannis, Kobe, LeBron, Dwight Howard and Yao Ming were all trained by Hakeem just to name a few. Next time, do a Google search before you come off looking like a complete fucking idiot. Anybody with any actual knowledge of ball knows Hakeem is Top 5.....maybe Top 3. That's better than "nice". And I don't know what era you're calling overrated when this current era cant get to the rim without traveling, carrying, elbowing, etc.
its just dribbling, shooting, running some plays and stuff, its not like you need to be skilled enough to build a rocket yourself or find a cure to cancer. i am sure the best athletes from any generation can handle that when given the access any reasonable resources as long as its not ancient like they need to find food to survive first before they can practice ball
These young players don’t know nothing about basketball history. I played football and I thought I knew my sport but after doing research later in life I found out how dumb I was when I was young
@@lillieharrington9564yes they’re men but behaving like kids and yes respect goes both ways but I’ve never heard Magic Johnson , Clyde Drexler, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Tim Duncan , Isia Thomas , or Reggie Miller crap on the new players
So true, they are giving them millions for doing nothing and accomplished nothing!! Whatever player can get a max contract without championships, mvp’s or winning anything.
NBA is the only pro sport where its athletes crap on its retired greats. You don't hear current NFL players crapping on Mean Joe Green and Dan Marino, or current NHL players crapping on Gretzky and and Bobby Orr.
That's true and it sooo weird. I think it started with LeBron especially with him calling himself the King and then that whole GOAT arguement. Everything builds on the past so crapping on previous eras is just plain ignorant.
Only this generation. It all started with Letrash and his ego. You won't hear Jordan say he's the goat. In fact, he's on record saying he's not going to call himself the goat because it's disrespectful to the greats that came before him, that he never got a chance to face.
You know who I blame. I blame Jordan lol because he was so great he got people thinking the players in his era were really trash 😂. This shit dont make no sense anymore lol.
🤣Hilarious!However,you might be on to something!Jordan most definitely made it seem as if it was easy when it was far from that!Now these players think the 80’s and 90’s were sweet when 90% of this era couldn’t last!The skill they are referring to is shooting 3’s!Big men no longer dominating the paint but shooting ridiculous 3’s with no post game!It’s just sad to watch this generation get worse by the day!
I’m definitely with yaw because people forget it was a lot of MVP-caliber players he was going against in those playoff runs. Also, I tell people all the time if it wasn't for MJ we probably would remember how great of a player Clyde Drexler was because before there was Dame in Portland he was up there going crazy but MJ made it his business for us to forget about him.
So what are the numbers on those illegal streams? And if you have access to those numbers why does the NBA not? You must be special like everyone else who was born after 2000.
@@blocksmithmagazine9970 I mean they clearly do or else these players wouldn’t be getting these ridiculous contracts and revenue the league makes. Also many different ways to watch now besides cable such as illegal streams
If this era is better, why are they allowed to travel? Traveling does not exist today in NBA. And they had to soften up the game because players today can't emotionally handle the physicality of the past game. To win in today's game all you have to do is hit 3s, no strategy is needed.
Jordan averaged 37.1 points shooting an average of 2 3s a game while teams averaged 8.7 3s a game.. In that season he didn’t miss a game.. These kids man
What about Moses Malone? Straight to the NBA from high school. 3 time MVP with two different teams, 13 time All Star, 8 time All NBA, 2 time All Defensive, NBA Champion, Hall of Fame and his career spanned 3 decades from 1974 to 1995. He literally spent his entire career playing against the greatest players of all time.
I wonder who started this trend of disrespecting past players because in the 90s player's were thankful and respectful to the past players before them.
LeBron fans to justify him losing so much to downplay the past competition because he wasn't good enough to win like past legends he had to build superteams in order to win anything
F*cking JJ Redick started this. He said some dumb things about plumbers, which is the most disrespectful thing I ever heard in sports. This is the worst era...
It’s a concerted effort by Lebron and his goons at Klutch sports. These conversations don’t just happen. They are plastered all over the place..by design
Just imagine all the best players from 84 to 2003 in there prime in this era that includes dream team 1,2,3, and 2000 Olympic team plus Kobe. I don’t think the stars now could duke it out with these guys because you have show time lakers, MJ Chicago Bulls, Stockton Malone Jazz, Shack Magic, Grant Hills pistons and Isaiah Thomas Pistons Birds Celtics and all the rest. Come on players now would get destroyed by these guys especially if Michael Jordan was on the court. And, we all know that if someone talked trash to MJ or Bird they’ll be either in the corner hiding because Mj would put 50 or 60 while Bird would just lay you out with his 3’s.
It's not only disrespectful to the players of the past in general but I think it's disrespectful to Michael Jordan as well !!! Those kids think that now everyone has Michael Jordan skills so it's way more difficult and that is why they can't win championships and back to back championship titles!😅😂🤣🤣 It's like the story of the fox 🦊 ! The fox 🦊 thought she was hidden and no one could see her! But her tail was in full display 🦊😄😂🤣🤣🤣
Jokic has skill but so many people hate on him because he is "boring" to watch. He doesn't do the stupid flashy stuff. I think watching him is brilliant
Everyone thinks that this is bad….. just wait. This will only get worse with all these spoiled kids that have parents that are their BFF’s and not their parents. Those kids are the one’s that’ll make it worse. WAAAAAAAAYYY WORSE!!!
The era of flopping and “flagrant” fouls for what would always be a regular foul in the real nba era, and for the past era of hand checking vs now carrying the ball, the stats should not even be compared. No one’s shooting average goes up when someone is pushing you and affecting your shot and hurting you in mid-air. The league is full of soft guys who play the sport like flag football would be played if the nfl was as soft.
am really starting not to like this Anthony Edward’s because first off his answer doesn’t make no kind of sense how’s he even going to make any comment like that he just now said he never watched the nba from the 80s I think he needs to do his homework on that before he opens up his mouth
Anthony Edwards. What's your description of skill? There were many players with skill back in the day. Isaiah Thomas, Spud Webb, The Glove, Barkley, Dominique, Ewing, Rain Man, Shaq, Kevin Johnson, Kobe.... I can go on and on. It was more than just MJ! I know the eras are different between now and then but the disrespect and ignorance is real in some of these players of today. If shooting 50 3's or more a game is your meaning of skill? You're being ridiculous Anthony Edwards! 😂😂😂
@@jaysouthmusic8230 I’m from Toronto last game I watched was when raptors won the finals nba has been boring since . No one tries star players always hurt .
Bunch of spoiled brats ignorantly disrespecting the elders who worked hard to make the league that they are now earning millions from even before they prove anything. The League allowed them to do extra dribbles, carry the ball, and be untouchable... and they are calling themselves more skillful.
@@DREAMERSPROHold up Charles u said LeBron is obsessed with Jordan but Kobe stole his identity wearing Jordan jersey and warm up jersey when he was winning chips u can't be serious that was dumb comment bro 😅😅😅😅😅
True, but Kobe never disrespected Jordan. Unlike lebron who does everything in his power to diminish Jordan's dominance and everything that he did and stood for that made this sport once so great. Look at it now, it's not even a shadow of it's formal glory, not even close thanks to it's figure head, lebron.
@@keithmitchell8372 Kobe respected Jordan. They were friends. Kobe was loved by the legends. He sought their help and knowledge. Lebron will never be friends with the goats like that. -Lebron is too busy playing 2k and coming up with handshakes.
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So Edward's is also saying that Kobe was the only one with talent in his ERA and let me guess all the talent began when LeBron entered the league??? Will be a damn shame if Edward's never wins a Championship with all his "talent" and big mouth.
Strong, in-home fathers teach their sons respect and mental toughness. We are just reaping the harvest of our broken homes. 😢🤷🏿♀️😢 #faithfathersfamiles
I think you just hit the nail right square on the head. I feel like this generation’s disrespect toward older eras is indirectly or directly connected to some sort of resentment toward their father. Let me trash and downplay my father’s generation, because I really just have an issue with my father. People may not connect those dots or think it’s that deep, but it very well could be. Great observation!
@Riles3152 Ok, you took my thoughts even deeper. I see your point. Displaced anger could explain a lot of what we see as well. 🤔 Either way, I believe we are seeing the effects of the "baby daddy" era throughout society. As a people, we spend too much time dealing with the symptoms (crime, homosexuality, police shootings, etc.), instead of the real root of the problem.....lack of fathers. God help us! 🙏🏿 #faithfathersfamiles
So hiding behind the 3pt line with no ball handling abilities and no foot work down low or in the paint is a skill? Dont forget no defensive abilities at all. Ladies and Gentlleman I give you the Diva Era of basketball today.
Agreed yet he's still trying to be Like Mike, when he should close his mouth and come up with some Creative Moves of his own, Oops He Doesn't Have Any, because Michael MJ did it all, and what he didn't Prove Kobe Added On To It, Ant Man Go Back To The Gym that You and Your Era So Desperately Need, To Add Creativity To Your Game, We Basketball Fans Doesn't Need another player "Trying To Be Like MIKE" ✌️💯
1. T-Mac with 🚫 injuries would be the best player in this era offensively & defensively. 2. Jason Kidd got Co Rookie Of The Year with Grant Hill & is 6th on the All-time Triple Doubles he's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than Chris Paul. 3. Jordan's Rookie year the league was his next year was even worse when he scored 63 on Boston & even though Jordan lost that game & got 🧹 3 games 🚫body cared even including Larry Bird. 4. 4 teams have 3peated in NBA History Chicago is 50% of that list.
Most talented by position PG-Magic( a real PG that makes his team better,not just a shooter.) G- MJ, SF-BIRD PF-KG C- Hakeem.. Most talented, not just the best
@@Hunt9-qb1if No power forward in history can win a full court game while being defended by guards . KG did it vs the 2000 USA team. You can’t even name 1 PF that can has a midrange like him, combined with the defense. Micale can’t dribble , Duncan, Karl Malone , AD, stodamire , Bosh, Gasol, can’t dribble and change direction while being defended. Dirk can’t dribble at all and wasn’t good on defense. Barkley is the only one that comes close . He isn’t dribbling full court on Jason Kidd while changing direction and scoring
Anthony Edwards is just a kid he was born in 2000. what does he no about anything 80s or 90s. I was born in 1977 I started watching basketball in 1982. this generation only can go back so many years.they just don't have a clue about skilled players.
Can the old school NBA players call out all the Bs that tries to discredit them ,like Charles Barkely ; this is nonsense what Anthony Edwards is saying and it's not true..
THE TOP 30 ALL TIME: 1. Michael Jordan - the greatest player and the greatest career in NBA history. Most dominant offensive force and one of the games best defenders. 6x Champ 6x FMVP 5x MVP 2. Bill Russell - the greatest winner and greatest defensive force in NBA and sports history. A legend on/off court. The key to NBA first dynasty. 11x Champ 5x FMVP 5x MVP 3. Magic Johnson - the great PG ever (so far…). REVOLUTIONIZED his position and saved the NBA. 5x Champ 3x FMVP 3xMVP 4. LeBron James - the greatest longevity in sports history. One of the most dominant forces ever and top5 all round player. Still.. counting. 4x Champ 4x FMVP 4x MVP 5. Tim Duncan - best PF ever. One of the most fundamentally sound players ever. Played both ends at the highest level for 15 seasons. 5x Champ 3x FMVP 2x MVP 6. Kareem Abdul Jabar - owner of the most dominant go-to move on offense. The HOOK. The previous scoring leader and lead all points for 4 decades. The greatest BASKETBALL career ever. Prep to Pro. 6x Champ 2x FMVP 6x MVP 7. Kobe Bryant - see number 1 and dilute the athleticism and physical intangibles and that’s what you got. Arguably the greatest warrior in NBA history. 5x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP 8. Shaquille O’Neal - the most dominant ever. The immovable object/unstoppable force. Shaq was the definition of dominance. 4x Champ 3x FMVP 1x MVP 9. Larry Bird - maybe the most legendary on the list. Precursor to Jokic but better. One of the most skilled & clutch players ever. In any sport. 3x Champ 2x FMVP 3x MVP 10. Hakeem Olajuwon - back to back. The best of the mid90’s and second best player in the era. Hakeem is like Russell but with AllNBA offensive ability. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP 11. Wilt Chamberlain - the games most prolific scorers. Arguably it’s greatest defender as well. The man could do it all. Even lead the league in assist at 7”2. Wilt IS unparalleled. GOAT athlete. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 3x MVP 12. Steph Curry - the games most prolific shooter and one of its greatest scorers. REVOLUTIONIZED the game forever. STILL GOING. 4x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP 13. Isaiah Thomas - ZEKE. CP3 before CP3 but nastier and meaner. A warrior and one of the games greatest strategist and generals. Quietly a top5 passer. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 14. Oscar Robertson - the greatest all around basketball player ever. Could do everything at a AllNBA level. Changed the way players were interpreted and influenced generations. 1x Champ 2x MVP 15. Kevin Durant - the Slim Reaper is likely the most ideal offensive weapon ever. Can hit from anywhere, anytime over anyone. Hard to beat and impossible to match that level of offensive dominance. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP 16. Julius Erving - The good Dr., the FIRST MJ (before Magic & Jordan), The icon and face of BOTH leagues that saved the game in the 70’s. Kareem was the best but Doc was a close 2nd. Underrated statistical brilliance. Was like a 6’7-6’8 Giannis but with a better jump shot. 3x Champ (1 NBA) 2x FMVP 4x MVP (1 NBA) 17. Moses Malone - CHAIRMAN OF DA BOARDS. Arguably the best board getter… ever. Only Wilt, Russell, Rodman and Thurmond belong in the same discussion. Moses lead his people to the promise land more than once but was able to claim immortality in the early 80’s. His team lead by the dynamic duo of he and Doc dominated the league. Before Lakers v. Celtics it was 76ers v. Celtics-Lakers. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 3xMVP 18. John Havlicek - the GREAT one. MJ is 6-0. Ole Johnny is 8-0. The offensive force off the bench or starting that lead the dynastic Celtics to all 8. Early in his career he was akin to Jordan Poole role on Warriors 22’ team but better at everything but the 3 ball. Then in the late 60’s-70’s he sat in captains seat. His career is a unique mix. Played like Pippen with elite perimeter shooting/scoring, early career was early Kobe-esque, late career MJ/Kobe-esque. John’s game rose in the playoffs. 8x Champ 1x FMVP (likely 4x) 19. Giannis Antetokounmpo - it’s getting freaky… GreekMan is literally on the ride to potentially threatening Tim’s best PF title. If he can add a couple more rings to his already HOF profile he will likely be the new PF or TOP 5 player. Yea. THAT GOOD. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP 1x DPOY 20. Jerry West - The LOGO. Steph Curry before Steph. The man that built the LA franchise along Baylor post Mikan era. Jerry West was the blueprint skill base for players like Kobe, MJ, TMac, etc At 6’2-6’3 he torched his opponents his entire career and dropped plenty of dimes. The ORIGINAL combo guard. So damn great he LOST and still won FMVP… case closed. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 21. Nikola Jokic - the Joker is no damn joke. Genuinely a candidate for potential GOAT if his career pans out in the extreme positive like that of the top 10. Jokic is in a unique place being the greatest passing big statically NBA history (excluding Magic). If Jokic finds a way to fit more jewelry in his fingers, we might have to have a real discussion about that greatest Center of all time discussion. Yes. Potentially a top 5 player alert. 1x MVP 1x FMVP 3x MVP (should’ve been 3 consecutive but you know) 22. Rick Barry - The ACTUAL “White Mamba”. Just predated the black one… Barry was the answer up until 85’ when you asked who the best SF ever. His game was similar to West but 6’7 and a better FT%. Controversial, cerebral and iconic. Had so much game he had to share what was left with his sons… 1x Champ 1x FMVP 23. Kevin Garnett - The Big Ticket. The 00’ Giannis. In every way but he had a better jumper midrange and beyond. KG was a monstrosity on OFF/DEF in his prime much like his modern comparison. Led the TWolves to relevance and led the 08’ Celtics to a chip. Truly the BIG TICKET. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 1x MVP 24. Dirk Nowitzki - DIGGLER. The one and only. The German Bird. THE Maverick. Dirk is one of the most beloved, iconic and acclaimed players ever. The 00’s stretch big supreme. Dirk was able to take the Mavs to immortality over 11’ Heat in arguably the most surprising run ever. Only Dirk. Forever the DIGGLER. Arguably, the GOAT Euro player. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 1x MVP 25. Bob Pettit - Big Blue was the first stretch 4 in the games history. That’s for starters. Pettit was a tenacious rebounder and highly skilled scorer. He was much akin to K. Love of his era but in better shape and played defense. Think a smaller Dirk who grabbed boards like Love but in the 50’s-60’s era. Not only that, much like Dirk, Pettit lead a historic upset over Russell’s Celtics. A true champ. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP 26. Dwayne Wade - The Flash. Wade County. The greatest Heat in NBA history. Wade is arguably the best defensive player at his position and easily too3 (MJ, Kobe). Led the Heat to a title in 06’ in historic fashion against Dirks Mavs. Then winning a couple more as LBJ’s Pippen. His career was like Kobe’s… in reverse. Wade’s early injuries reduced his maximum career output but yet here he is… says a ton. 3x Champ 1x FMVP 27. Elgin Baylor - The PROTOTYPE. Before West, Julius, Thompson, Wilkins, MJ, Hardaway, Kobe, Carter, TMac, Wade, Ant etc There was Elgin Baylor. The first Air, the first Mamba, the first Half Man/Amazing, Flash etc Baylor spearheaded an era that hardly wanted his talents there but had no other choice but to be in awe of it. Think Harden, in shape but not as good of a playmaker, twice the rebounder and a better defender. That’s Elgin. *left a season before historic LAL title win 28. David Robinson - The Admiral. The USA’s biggest weapon in the 90’s was also one of the greatest ever. Made the spurs relevant pre-Duncan and post. Has some of the greatest seasons statistically. Think Giannis but 7’2 with a lefty and 15 footer plus an even better defender. 2x Champ 1x MVP 29. Karl Malone - the Mailman was LBJ minus the handles and vision. King of the pick n roll. 1x MVP 30. Charles Barkley - The Round Mound of Rebound was the Tasmanian devil in a basketball jersey. Prime 25 5 13 guy. Impact everywhere he went. OG DREAMTEAM member by the way… 1x MVP 30 (?) Clyde Drexler - The Glide. One of the most useful all around talents in nba history. One of the greatest two way players ever. Helped every squad he went to become a contender. 1x Champ * HONORABLE MENTION: McHale, Nash, Malone, Harden, Parker, CP3, Stockton, Walton, Payton, Westbrook, Drexler ^GIVE HONEST FEEDBACK CRITIQUE ATTEMPTING A PERFECT TOP30 list
Kobe and Tim Better. Have more Champs, less loss, more skills than LeBron. Build supa teams. Not 1,not 2, not 3, not 4, etc, etc. 20 years with 3 1/2 champs🤣 6 losses, fall apart in the finals, cry every chance he gets. Who crowns themselves!? Not real KINGS and QUEENS🤣
@@BeachgirlKarlithe only problem I have with ppl talking about lebron losing 6 times is that with the exception of 2 of the finals his team was not favored and didn’t really have a chance. His team should have won against the mavs and you can make the argument that his team should have won against my spurs in 14’ but they got us the year before. His first finals my spurs were too good. And doesn’t matter who was gonna play against the warriors. They were a cheat code. But I’ll take Timmy over bron any day.
Great list but I definitely would put Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan and Hakeem Olajuwon above LeRoid James but everyone has their own list and I respect yours!!
@@rdogletree4543it’s ambitious but multi purposeful lol. Thanks. Want more people to participate in discussions about the game and it’s history rather than just blind fandom
I’m Willing to say the 2013 and 14 spurs started what warriors ended up being. The spurs broke all the team and individual 3 point shooting records in the finals vs the heat in back to back finals. They knew that was their only chance to beat Miami. That’s actually why Miami lost so badly in the 2014 finals. Being down 20 at halftime 3 games in one series lol
As always boss u speaking facts all the names u were nameing I was thinking... We know because we saw great skills and fundamentals in 80s 90s . Fundamentals is lacking these days n nothing but disrespect from the young bucks. And the game so soft these days no enforcers no rim protectors no defence no hand checking. It's soft these days
They forget that, among others, Michael Jordan saved basketball and made it the way it is right now, and this new generation is benefiting off the golden era of basketball period. All they have to do is shut up and handle the business and show just how good they are, win or lose
It’s to the point it’s really weird. I sometimes wish the NBA would just go away. The most unlikeable generation of players in sports history. And it will only get worse.
What is this new Los Vagas NBA Emirates cup even mean to the NBA.Sound like another stat padding, wink, wink bs.🤨 Oh lawd Charles, Lebron would trip and fall ova himself if he has to do them ball skills🤣🤣
LeBron and Rich Paul started this foolishness because LeBron has nothing on Jordan. The idea is/was discredit Jordan and his era, diminish them to uplift LeBron and WHY has some of it worked? Because LeBron and Klutch KNOW that today’s generation not only worships LeBron BUT and sadly find RESPECT IN BEING DISRESPECTFUL!! I’ve seen it with some of these kids in my hood, if I leave a little grey in my goatee and start making shots….5 in a row, 10 in a row they start calling me trash. WHY? Because I’m wearing a Jordan jersey doing it
It seems after they compared this young man to Michael Jordan he has lost his natural born mind. This has a lot to do with parenting I believe because if you look at old tapes on RUclips or you happen to be alive during this time, you watch and listen to the youth of the 70s or the 80s, even the 90s, I hate to say this, but those younger people are more articulate, they knew their history, especially in the field in which they wanted to work or dominate. I listen to some of these young bloggers talking about music, but they don’t know who Sarah Vaughn was,They can’t tell you who Curtis Mayfield was. Anthony Edward’s speaks recklessly, and I believe it’s for attention. I must say and I hope this doesn’t offend anyone, but I grew up in the South Bronx, where respect was everything and I truly believe that the reason that so many youths deleting each other or get deleted. Also, back in the day you could have the worst gangster in the hood (One of them was my Cousin) 😅 and we had guns, but less people were hurt because everyone understood respect. This young man must learn “There’s a difference between being confident and being arrogant” and you know who teaches you that your parents! Who raised this talented yet disrespectful young man?
With all due respect, you can do the whole name thing with any generation. Anthony Edwards, is not the first person to ever say this…I don’t care about Jordan or Lebron but this argument has become so redundant. Funny thing is both fan bases are doing the same exact thing but calling out the other. Someone says something about either one of these ninjas and it’s like someone put the Batman symbol in the air…
No, I don’t but I also don’t fully agree with what he’s saying in this video. Point is anyone can make supportive statements to back what they want. However, when you are so adamant and strong about something and not willing to have a legitimate conversation, that’s where we separate. When was it frowned upon to have healthy dialogue? Is there something wrong with subjectivity all of a sudden? It’s crazy to think EVERYONE has to believe what you do or they are the ones that’s crazy. I just can’t f with that. Again, I don’t even fully disagree with him. However, I can never wholeheartedly agree with someone that’s not open to a discussion that doesn’t fit what they believe. Like we really gonna sit here and act like the NBA didn’t evolve? I still will listen to this dude. He’s cool and all but I will refrain from the Jordan/Lebron conversations cause that shit is so played out and old man. Gotta be other shit to talk about🤦🏿♂️
This Gen's logic is, they are better hunters because they get their food from the grocery store 😂😂.
LOL! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
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Yo this is HILARIOUS
The Era of SELF-ENTITLEMENT, OVERLY SELF PROMOTING and DISRESPECT.
This is an era of people who were raised by single mothers and it shows. They stay in their feelings and approach everything from a feminine perspective. Look at LeBron. He reacts to things on the court just like his mother does in the stands
how would u want someone to talk about your mammy u should be ashamed of talk about single parents it’s men like u r a woman which has a who want take care of the children
I love baseball,the present players respect the legends, nbà is a plantation fighting each other.baseball history is respected by little leaguers and up
@@ericjordan6059agreedsay no more son
I love the way you have qualified this generation.
Comparing him to Jordan has got to his head.
Idk about that. He wasn't speaking from a place of arrogance, just severe ignorance. That's how all these young bloods move these days
Jordan’s era of basketball was the best! The current era is lacking big time! Michael Jordan is still the GOAT 🐐!
This generation has no class whatsoever.
I don’t understand why in basketball they continue to disrespect former athletes/ players. I don’t see this in any other sport. This generation is comical
I believe because the sport is dominated by Black athletes and we as a race, not all of us but many of us just don’t respect each other and want to bring one another down the old crab in the barrel mentality it’s really sad.
Agreed. I think this crap started with Lebron and his camp. Jordan, Magic, Dr. J, Kobe, they all respected the generations before them.
Nothing comical about it. They think they know but don't want to watch film or study game of former players. They think what they do is better. Just ignorant.
As in one of his later videos, JJ Reddick is the culprit. Typical garbage from the arrogant sob
If Nick Van Exel had a green light like these guards have now he would've been a HOF. He would've cooked any of these guards.
Nick the Quic
@@freshmoney6597 hell yea.
I’ll do you one better, if Quic Nic was SERIOUS and more mature he’d be HOF in any era. Injuries played a part too
Yes. Point guards back then actually played within a system
NICK VAN EXEL WAS THE TRUTH!!!!🏀🏀🏀💯💯💯
I will take MJ, Kobe, Wade Drexler Dumars Iverson Jason Kidd over any guard from this Era. Fat Luka would always be injured in the 90s. He would need to hit the gym and bulk up because that era was very physical.
Shooting 3’s all game is not a skill. This era’s NBA has no post game. No foot work. No mid range moves. Nothing but 3’s. That’s it.
they don't run no plays everything that made basketball a great sport seem to be non existent now.
Exactly. And to put things more in context, the 3 point shot didn’t even exist for college ball when Michael Jordan was in college. That means Michael Jordan and everyone from his year and before had to develop their three-point game while they were the pros. Meanwhile kids of today, and thanks to Steph Curry and the rule changes of 2015, all practice shooting the three ball from the beginning…. Practice actually does make perfect.. They practice it more today than ever..
They also don't run lanes anymore on the fast break. In every game I see guys trying to go 1-on-2 on fast breaks, resulting in blown layups.
Let's not forget traveling is no longer called. Feel free to pickup the ball and start running with it after you pass halfcourt.
There is the Gather Step, the pre-gather step, and the Why not take one more step step.
@@TOAD-uw4mh exactly and they call that “skill.” 😂😂. No . It’s called Changed the rules the favor offense. Can you imagine if Michael Jordan or Reggie Miller was able to do the James Harden one or two steps back jumpshot? lol
The disrespect is played out
The disrespect from today's player's just goes on and on.
Right, and even though they're doing it the players of the past still don't disrespect them. They want to see the game evolve instead of going down like it has since the early 2000s.
@@jdmintegradp at some point someone has to get punched in the mouth
today's era need that to validate themselves...u only hear self imposed goat on today's players...players 80's and 90's , 2k dont do that coz they went to a hard fought war game. no holds bar no hold back.
@@arkinsam7733 If you don't change your mindset, you will never evolve. ...and your mindset says everything about you. Don't get stuck in the past, remember, there were horses before cars and planes
@user-oh9fm4df5qWhat? The new superstar ball will get you cooked. Why the Euro & African players kept causing headaches during the Olympics for our guys. The seasoned players had to take over cuz they knew what they had to do. Even AE looked bewildered about how to shut their oppenents down. Evolving can also lead to devolving if not handled in the right way. Playing other countries is proving that to be true.
Rod Strickland, Chris Webber. Jalen rose. Jr rider. Jason Kidd. Shaq. So many more from the 90’s. That were skilled.
Allen Iverson, Grant Hill, Penny, Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, Kenny Anderson, Tim Hardaway, Glen Rice, Ray Allen, the list goes on. Kids these days are stupid
Dana barros
Yep... and I doubt if any of the players of today match in overall skill as players from the 80's like Bird, McHale Isiah Thomas, Magic, Mark Price, Kevin Johnson, Tim Hardaway, Bernard King, Adrian Dantley, Mark Aguirre, Joe Dumars, Sydney Moncreif, Charles Barkley, Dennis Johnson, Jack Sikma, Alex English, George Gervin, Hakeem, James Worthy, Dominique Wilkins, Dr. J, Moses Malone ( who tutored Hakeem), Kareem ( who was at his peak from the 70's but was still formidable in the 80's) Ralph Sampson..(who up untill his injury was the prelude to what we see now in Wemby) Marcus Johnson (who was probably the first point forward in the game played alot like Lebron) Clyde Drexler...et, etc, etc, how on earth did all these non - skilled players ever make it to the NBA and become HOFer's..is a mystery to me..explain this to me ANT
KG was drafted in 95. These youngins are tripping
@@waynewhitaker234Chris Mullen
HERE'S THE FACTS : These kids judge older players based off of NBA 2k 😂 I'M SERIOUS! They think NBA 2k is real. If you can't shoot 3's in 2K you're a Plumber to them. Players from the 80' and 90's had better Centers, and PF than this generation. Point Guards back then verse this gen might be a tie. The best Wing players (SG, SF) might be Kobe's gen and now. You know why? They are all MJ's babies. The evolution of the wing player started with Jordan. They all watched him. Ask LeBron. MJ changed the NBA from being a Big Man's league. So of course Jordan didn't get a chance to play against most of his son's. 🤷🏾♂️
NBA 2k is definitely having a negative effect on these kids view of the past generation. They think the 3 is all there is to basketball.
Imagine if these youngsters had to actually follow the carrying and traveling rules. Ohhhh boy would they suck.
Ikr!!!!
Many a turnover to be had.
Today's players are so skill they put people to sleep. 😂😂😂
To live in a generation where information is at your fingertips and to still make ignorant statements like that is disheartening. 😢😢😢
Information is the key, and u all 90 lovers basketball go watch again and tell me that Jordan era was good, big joke. and lebron is not the goat so don't call me lebron fan,Jordan era is the most overrated Era.
@@ronenvavshet6949how you figure that?? More than half of the players on that all time 75 greatest players ever team come from the 80s and 90s. Evidently, they did something right. In today’s game you can’t hand check and they also added an additional step. It was much harder to score in the Magic/Bird/Jordan era. There’s a reason why players today still go to visit Hakeem Olajuwon to learn how to play in the post.
@@ronenvavshet6949 watch your mouth. I’ll get your lights knocked out.
@@ronenvavshet6949 that’s why nobody today watches in the 90s had the highest rated percentage of fans watching why? Because it was fucking good. 🤡
These mfs easily gotta be the most ignorant generation yet
Edwards must be feeling his gold medal 😂😂😂
The Cupcake Era. Chugging 3 points, getting away with traveling, flopping (pioneered by the GOAT of Flopping himself), biased refs (aka the LeRefs), Vegas betting, rigged IST championship, etc
That very well explains why the NBA ratings are down. Simple as that.
Well said...totally agree with this statement!
Shaq was drafted in 92..He will kill this era
Not because of skill though which is the point of the argument
@@thebartertownconglomerate But this era is not more skilled. It just appears so because the rules don’t allow defense so there’s no opposition to the offense/competition. In addition they added an extra step and guys still travel. So how is that more skilled?
40 50 a night lol
@@CurtisT1019True. Also, players today seem to rely more upon athleticism than honed skills. It's pretty easy to practice one shot all the time (3-ball), and call that player a skilled player. But can that particular player also rebound, score from the midrange, take it to the basket, play defense, etc?
@@thebartertownconglomerateShaq was very skilled but once he bulked up he became more dominant with brute force.
Why does Olajuwon train new era players if they have more skill 😂
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U mean Giannis,and?.... that's it. oaljuwon is nice but overrated like his era.
@@ronenvavshet6949Giannis, Kobe, LeBron, Dwight Howard and Yao Ming were all trained by Hakeem just to name a few. Next time, do a Google search before you come off looking like a complete fucking idiot. Anybody with any actual knowledge of ball knows Hakeem is Top 5.....maybe Top 3. That's better than "nice".
And I don't know what era you're calling overrated when this current era cant get to the rim without traveling, carrying, elbowing, etc.
@@ronenvavshet6949Lebron James and Embid😂😂😂😂
@@ronenvavshet6949Yao Ming, Kobe , Amar'e, Dwight
And you have this generation wanting to learn from Hakeem Olajuwon
Exactly!
Right, who's gonna be paying LeBron to teach them after he retires🤔🤔🤔
The famous hook shot which magic was the closest to do it in some games too. 🤣.
This era of the NBA is not that skilled either .
A Bunch of "Triple Single " current and fmr players with Podcasts LOL #SAD
They allowed to break all the rules with the traveling n such
The Diva Era of NBA exists today
its just dribbling, shooting, running some plays and stuff, its not like you need to be skilled enough to build a rocket yourself or find a cure to cancer. i am sure the best athletes from any generation can handle that when given the access any reasonable resources as long as its not ancient like they need to find food to survive first before they can practice ball
@Ejr82u. I agree
These young players don’t know nothing about basketball history. I played football and I thought I knew my sport but after doing research later in life I found out how dumb I was when I was young
This is the fatherless era a man will teach his son to respect his elders!!! This kids are going to reap what they soe!!!
@@eddiejones5024 the word spell sow. The r not kids these grown mens so respect goes both ways
@@lillieharrington9564yes they’re men but behaving like kids and yes respect goes both ways but I’ve never heard Magic Johnson , Clyde Drexler, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Tim Duncan , Isia Thomas , or Reggie Miller crap on the new players
This has nothing to do with fatherless homes. 80s, 90s, were in the same situation not having Father's, but it is all about how you are taught.
Well said
Problem with some young superstars today, no accomplishments yet and their superstardom gets to their head soo much.
They're raised wrong. Parents lead their children in the right direction......
So true, they are giving them millions for doing nothing and accomplished nothing!! Whatever player can get a max contract without championships, mvp’s or winning anything.
Dr. J, Magic , Hakeem, Human Hightlight Reel, we can go on and on and on
On and on
NBA is the only pro sport where its athletes crap on its retired greats. You don't hear current NFL players crapping on Mean Joe Green and Dan Marino, or current NHL players crapping on Gretzky and and Bobby Orr.
That's true and it sooo weird. I think it started with LeBron especially with him calling himself the King and then that whole GOAT arguement. Everything builds on the past so crapping on previous eras is just plain ignorant.
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Only this generation. It all started with Letrash and his ego. You won't hear Jordan say he's the goat. In fact, he's on record saying he's not going to call himself the goat because it's disrespectful to the greats that came before him, that he never got a chance to face.
You know who I blame. I blame Jordan lol because he was so great he got people thinking the players in his era were really trash 😂. This shit dont make no sense anymore lol.
🤣Hilarious!However,you might be on to something!Jordan most definitely made it seem as if it was easy when it was far from that!Now these players think the 80’s and 90’s were sweet when 90% of this era couldn’t last!The skill they are referring to is shooting 3’s!Big men no longer dominating the paint but shooting ridiculous 3’s with no post game!It’s just sad to watch this generation get worse by the day!
MJ said something to that effect in a commercial! "Maybe I made you think it was easy..." - MJ.
I’m definitely with yaw because people forget it was a lot of MVP-caliber players he was going against in those playoff runs. Also, I tell people all the time if it wasn't for MJ we probably would remember how great of a player Clyde Drexler was because before there was Dame in Portland he was up there going crazy but MJ made it his business for us to forget about him.
😂😂😂😂 So In Other Words Michael MJ Was "A Master Of Disaster" ✌️👍
Yeap😂😂@@gmoneybagz2376
This is how this cottonelle era players gain notoriety
Anthony Edwards... Michael Jordan is not the Father
Bingo! Mike showed love to guys before him
Mahmond Abdul Raul, Curry before Curry
ABSOLUTE TRUTH!!!!🏀🏀🏀💯💯💯
Bruh? Things would get out of control if you put that man in this era. Lol
Mookie Blaylock
So why is the ratings down?🤷🏾♂️💁🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😅😅😅
Illegal streams bud
@@sosaraycharles358knall nobody watching the games
So what are the numbers on those illegal streams? And if you have access to those numbers why does the NBA not? You must be special like everyone else who was born after 2000.
@@blocksmithmagazine9970 I mean they clearly do or else these players wouldn’t be getting these ridiculous contracts and revenue the league makes. Also many different ways to watch now besides cable such as illegal streams
Been saying this shit for a while. Definitely down.
If this era is better, why are they allowed to travel? Traveling does not exist today in NBA. And they had to soften up the game because players today can't emotionally handle the physicality of the past game. To win in today's game all you have to do is hit 3s, no strategy is needed.
I know it's soooooo boring
Especially Giannis he be taking literally four steps to the rim and never call traveling
Jordan averaged 37.1 points shooting an average of 2 3s a game while teams averaged 8.7 3s a game.. In that season he didn’t miss a game.. These kids man
What about Moses Malone? Straight to the NBA from high school. 3 time MVP with two different teams, 13 time All Star, 8 time All NBA, 2 time All Defensive, NBA Champion, Hall of Fame and his career spanned 3 decades from 1974 to 1995. He literally spent his entire career playing against the greatest players of all time.
Tim Duncan was nothing but skill
to be fair he was also really strong and mentally tough
Yeah Because Duncan defeat lebron
Yeah and Duncan was from late 90s too
Larry bird one of the most skilled players ever to play!!!
Yup. And one of the best 3 point shooters too. Yeah it was 33-35% which was big back in that era. Today he would still dominate
@@eddiejones5024 he’s 65 now so it doesn’t matter he can’t throw a tissue in a garbage can now. So let the old be old join the young and the present
No he wasn’t
@@lillieharrington9564 that's stupid
Bs
I believe the past players are better by far, but George Gervin IS NOT SIMILAR to kd 🤦♂️🤦♂️
I wonder who started this trend of disrespecting past players because in the 90s player's were thankful and respectful to the past players before them.
LeBron fans to justify him losing so much to downplay the past competition because he wasn't good enough to win like past legends he had to build superteams in order to win anything
F*cking JJ Redick started this. He said some dumb things about plumbers, which is the most disrespectful thing I ever heard in sports. This is the worst era...
It’s a concerted effort by Lebron and his goons at Klutch sports. These conversations don’t just happen. They are plastered all over the place..by design
Anthony Edwards is the dummy of the day, week, month, year. Young clown needs to do his research, keep his mouth 🤐 and play 🏀
Ant man is a poor man T Mac
@@michaelwilliams-vu2nf he's more like a glorified Latrell Sprewell
Jordan respected all his previous stars, and what do stars with nothing to show yet do today they disrespect their elders!!
Just imagine all the best players from 84 to 2003 in there prime in this era that includes dream team 1,2,3, and 2000 Olympic team plus Kobe. I don’t think the stars now could duke it out with these guys because you have show time lakers, MJ Chicago Bulls, Stockton Malone Jazz, Shack Magic, Grant Hills pistons and Isaiah Thomas Pistons Birds Celtics and all the rest. Come on players now would get destroyed by these guys especially if Michael Jordan was on the court. And, we all know that if someone talked trash to MJ or Bird they’ll be either in the corner hiding because Mj would put 50 or 60 while Bird would just lay you out with his 3’s.
It's not only disrespectful to the players of the past in general but I think it's disrespectful to Michael Jordan as well !!! Those kids think that now everyone has Michael Jordan skills so it's way more difficult and that is why they can't win championships and back to back championship titles!😅😂🤣🤣 It's like the story of the fox 🦊 ! The fox 🦊 thought she was hidden and no one could see her! But her tail was in full display 🦊😄😂🤣🤣🤣
Honestly, once KD, Kawhi, steph etc retires. Its gonna be so hard to watch the nba. They were the last group of stars to have skill.
Jokic has skill but so many people hate on him because he is "boring" to watch. He doesn't do the stupid flashy stuff. I think watching him is brilliant
Everyone thinks that this is bad….. just wait.
This will only get worse with all these spoiled kids that have parents that are their BFF’s and not their parents. Those kids are the one’s that’ll make it worse. WAAAAAAAAYYY WORSE!!!
The era of flopping and “flagrant” fouls for what would always be a regular foul in the real nba era, and for the past era of hand checking vs now carrying the ball, the stats should not even be compared.
No one’s shooting average goes up when someone is pushing you and affecting your shot and hurting you in mid-air. The league is full of soft guys who play the sport like flag football would be played if the nfl was as soft.
am really starting not to like this Anthony Edward’s because first off his answer doesn’t make no kind of sense how’s he even going to make any comment like that he just now said he never watched the nba from the 80s I think he needs to do his homework on that before he opens up his mouth
Anthony Edwards. What's your description of skill? There were many players with skill back in the day. Isaiah Thomas, Spud Webb, The Glove, Barkley, Dominique, Ewing, Rain Man, Shaq, Kevin Johnson, Kobe.... I can go on and on. It was more than just MJ! I know the eras are different between now and then but the disrespect and ignorance is real in some of these players of today. If shooting 50 3's or more a game is your meaning of skill? You're being ridiculous Anthony Edwards! 😂😂😂
Well said
When they said Ant man reminds them of Michael Jordan, they meant " Mike Larry"
What makes it double terrible, some of these so call Old heads are spewing this same garbage among the people!!! It’s a shame 😢😢😢
Some oldsters are disgruntled because MJ beat their teams, and he replaced former heroes!
@@dr.lesbarrett921exactly right
This era is the worst can’t even watch a full game
Ikr
Ain’t that the truth I’m one of the few ones that can still watch a full game
@@jaysouthmusic8230 I’m from Toronto last game I watched was when raptors won the finals nba has been boring since . No one tries star players always hurt .
The New Generation so Disrespectful but it figures, MJ Era is the Greatest era ever the 🐐 Era
Bunch of spoiled brats ignorantly disrespecting the elders who worked hard to make the league that they are now earning millions from even before they prove anything.
The League allowed them to do extra dribbles, carry the ball, and be untouchable... and they are calling themselves more skillful.
Well said
Mann charles you be speaking 100% pure facts you keep it real at all cost
thanks
@@DREAMERSPRO welcome
@@DREAMERSPROHold up Charles u said LeBron is obsessed with Jordan but Kobe stole his identity wearing Jordan jersey and warm up jersey when he was winning chips u can't be serious that was dumb comment bro 😅😅😅😅😅
True, but Kobe never disrespected Jordan. Unlike lebron who does everything in his power to diminish Jordan's dominance and everything that he did and stood for that made this sport once so great. Look at it now, it's not even a shadow of it's formal glory, not even close thanks to it's figure head, lebron.
@@keithmitchell8372 Kobe respected Jordan. They were friends. Kobe was loved by the legends. He sought their help and knowledge. Lebron will never be friends with the goats like that.
-Lebron is too busy playing 2k and coming up with handshakes.
"Never saw it but everyone sucked"
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So Edward's is also saying that Kobe was the only one with talent in his ERA and let me guess all the talent began when LeBron entered the league???
Will be a damn shame if Edward's never wins a Championship with all his "talent" and big mouth.
Yao ming , Hakeem were very skillful big man as well
Strong, in-home fathers teach their sons respect and mental toughness. We are just reaping the harvest of our broken homes. 😢🤷🏿♀️😢
#faithfathersfamiles
I think you just hit the nail right square on the head. I feel like this generation’s disrespect toward older eras is indirectly or directly connected to some sort of resentment toward their father. Let me trash and downplay my father’s generation, because I really just have an issue with my father. People may not connect those dots or think it’s that deep, but it very well could be. Great observation!
@Riles3152 Ok, you took my thoughts even deeper. I see your point. Displaced anger could explain a lot of what we see as well. 🤔
Either way, I believe we are seeing the effects of the "baby daddy" era throughout society. As a people, we spend too much time dealing with the symptoms (crime, homosexuality, police shootings, etc.), instead of the real root of the problem.....lack of fathers.
God help us! 🙏🏿
#faithfathersfamiles
So hiding behind the 3pt line with no ball handling abilities and no foot work down low or in the paint is a skill? Dont forget no defensive abilities at all. Ladies and Gentlleman I give you the Diva Era of basketball today.
The mid range game is dead in the NBA too.
Anthony Edwards is ignorant like most of the players of today,they don't know basketball history,that why lots of people don't watch the game now .
Agreed yet he's still trying to be Like Mike, when he should close his mouth and come up with some Creative Moves of his own, Oops He Doesn't Have Any, because Michael MJ did it all, and what he didn't Prove Kobe Added On To It, Ant Man Go Back To The Gym that You and Your Era So Desperately Need, To Add Creativity To Your Game, We Basketball Fans Doesn't Need another player "Trying To Be Like MIKE" ✌️💯
1. T-Mac with 🚫 injuries would be the best player in this era offensively & defensively.
2. Jason Kidd got Co Rookie Of The Year with Grant Hill & is 6th on the All-time Triple Doubles he's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than Chris Paul.
3. Jordan's Rookie year the league was his next year was even worse when he scored 63 on Boston & even though Jordan lost that game & got 🧹 3 games 🚫body cared even including Larry Bird.
4. 4 teams have 3peated in NBA History Chicago is 50% of that list.
I guess hanging around lebron rubs off the wrong way. Now Ant-Man becoming another lebron? C'mon Ant-Man I thought you'd be better than that.
Lebron has been the common denominator of all this every since they made him the face of the NBA the new generation has been falling his lead.
Most talented by position
PG-Magic( a real PG that makes his team better,not just a shooter.)
G- MJ,
SF-BIRD
PF-KG
C- Hakeem..
Most talented, not just the best
Agree with everything except KG and I love KG but no
Well, these are technically the best at their position except for KG
@@Hunt9-qb1if No power forward in history can win a full court game while being defended by guards . KG did it vs the 2000 USA team. You can’t even name 1 PF that can has a midrange like him, combined with the defense. Micale can’t dribble , Duncan, Karl Malone , AD, stodamire , Bosh, Gasol, can’t dribble and change direction while being defended. Dirk can’t dribble at all and wasn’t good on defense. Barkley is the only one that comes close . He isn’t dribbling full court on Jason Kidd while changing direction and scoring
Pistol Pete ,Magic Johnson, Dream
Mahmoud Abdul Rauf...aka Chris Jackson. He was Steph Curry before Steph Curry
Anthony Edwards is just a kid he was born in 2000. what does he no about anything 80s or 90s. I was born in 1977 I started watching basketball in 1982. this generation only can go back so many years.they just don't have a clue about skilled players.
Anthony Edwards will never win a championship without a super team
They gotta think, kobe who they respect, would never say this. Either way, im still an anthony edward fan and hope hes still next
Kobe was a student of the game. These guys play NBA 2K.
Magic Johnson has more skill in his little finger than Antony edwards will ever have.
Hell, Edwards ain't even the best Timberwolf. He's still young but that honor goes to KG and he ain't taking that torch from him.
Edwards will never be on Jordan's level, and it is lunacy to compare him to Jordan.
Top three players of all time number one, Michael Jordan number two Kobe Bryant number 3 Shaquille O’Neal
Pistol pete got more skill than anyone currently
Pistol Pete, Bob Cousy…
Jerry west (RIP) Oscar Robinson, Dr J,
Can the old school NBA players call out all the Bs that tries to discredit them ,like Charles Barkely ; this is nonsense what Anthony Edwards is saying and it's not true..
THE TOP 30 ALL TIME:
1. Michael Jordan - the greatest player and the greatest career in NBA history. Most dominant offensive force and one of the games best defenders.
6x Champ 6x FMVP 5x MVP
2. Bill Russell - the greatest winner and greatest defensive force in NBA and sports history. A legend on/off court. The key to NBA first dynasty.
11x Champ 5x FMVP 5x MVP
3. Magic Johnson - the great PG ever (so far…). REVOLUTIONIZED his position and saved the NBA.
5x Champ 3x FMVP 3xMVP
4. LeBron James - the greatest longevity in sports history. One of the most dominant forces ever and top5 all round player. Still.. counting.
4x Champ 4x FMVP 4x MVP
5. Tim Duncan - best PF ever. One of the most fundamentally sound players ever. Played both ends at the highest level for 15 seasons.
5x Champ 3x FMVP 2x MVP
6. Kareem Abdul Jabar - owner of the most dominant go-to move on offense. The HOOK. The previous scoring leader and lead all points for 4 decades. The greatest BASKETBALL career ever.
Prep to Pro.
6x Champ 2x FMVP 6x MVP
7. Kobe Bryant - see number 1 and dilute the athleticism and physical intangibles and that’s what you got.
Arguably the greatest warrior in NBA history.
5x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP
8. Shaquille O’Neal - the most dominant ever. The immovable object/unstoppable force. Shaq was the definition of dominance.
4x Champ 3x FMVP 1x MVP
9. Larry Bird - maybe the most legendary on the list. Precursor to Jokic but better. One of the most skilled & clutch players ever.
In any sport.
3x Champ 2x FMVP 3x MVP
10. Hakeem Olajuwon - back to back.
The best of the mid90’s and second best player in the era. Hakeem is like Russell but with AllNBA offensive ability.
2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP
11. Wilt Chamberlain - the games most prolific scorers. Arguably it’s greatest defender as well. The man could do it all. Even lead the league in assist at 7”2. Wilt IS unparalleled.
GOAT athlete.
2x Champ 2x FMVP 3x MVP
12. Steph Curry - the games most prolific shooter and one of its greatest scorers. REVOLUTIONIZED the game forever. STILL GOING.
4x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP
13. Isaiah Thomas - ZEKE. CP3 before CP3 but nastier and meaner. A warrior and one of the games greatest strategist and generals. Quietly a top5 passer.
2x Champ 2x FMVP
14. Oscar Robertson - the greatest all around basketball player ever. Could do everything at a AllNBA level.
Changed the way players were interpreted and influenced generations.
1x Champ 2x MVP
15. Kevin Durant - the Slim Reaper is likely the most ideal offensive weapon ever. Can hit from anywhere, anytime over anyone. Hard to beat and impossible to match that level of offensive dominance.
2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP
16. Julius Erving - The good Dr., the FIRST MJ (before Magic & Jordan), The icon and face of BOTH leagues that saved the game in the 70’s. Kareem was the best but Doc was a close 2nd. Underrated statistical brilliance. Was like a 6’7-6’8 Giannis but with a better jump shot.
3x Champ (1 NBA) 2x FMVP 4x MVP (1 NBA)
17. Moses Malone - CHAIRMAN OF DA BOARDS. Arguably the best board getter… ever. Only Wilt, Russell, Rodman and Thurmond belong in the same discussion. Moses lead his people to the promise land more than once but was able to claim immortality in the early 80’s. His team lead by the dynamic duo of he and Doc dominated the league. Before Lakers v. Celtics it was 76ers v. Celtics-Lakers.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 3xMVP
18. John Havlicek - the GREAT one. MJ is 6-0.
Ole Johnny is 8-0. The offensive force off the bench or starting that lead the dynastic Celtics to all 8. Early in his career he was akin to Jordan Poole role on Warriors 22’ team but better at everything but the 3 ball.
Then in the late 60’s-70’s he sat in captains seat. His career is a unique mix.
Played like Pippen with elite perimeter shooting/scoring, early career was early Kobe-esque, late career MJ/Kobe-esque.
John’s game rose in the playoffs.
8x Champ 1x FMVP (likely 4x)
19. Giannis Antetokounmpo - it’s getting freaky… GreekMan is literally on the ride to potentially threatening Tim’s best PF title.
If he can add a couple more rings to his already HOF profile he will likely be the new PF or TOP 5 player. Yea. THAT GOOD.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP 1x DPOY
20. Jerry West - The LOGO. Steph Curry before Steph. The man that built the LA franchise along Baylor post Mikan era.
Jerry West was the blueprint skill base for players like Kobe, MJ, TMac, etc
At 6’2-6’3 he torched his opponents his entire career and dropped plenty of dimes.
The ORIGINAL combo guard. So damn great he LOST and still won FMVP… case closed.
1x Champ 1x FMVP
21. Nikola Jokic - the Joker is no damn joke.
Genuinely a candidate for potential GOAT if his career pans out in the extreme positive like that of the top 10. Jokic is in a unique place being the greatest passing big statically NBA history (excluding Magic).
If Jokic finds a way to fit more jewelry in his fingers, we might have to have a real discussion about that greatest Center of all time discussion. Yes. Potentially a top 5 player alert.
1x MVP 1x FMVP 3x MVP (should’ve been 3 consecutive but you know)
22. Rick Barry - The ACTUAL “White Mamba”. Just predated the black one… Barry was the answer up until 85’ when you asked who the best SF ever. His game was similar to West but 6’7 and a better FT%. Controversial, cerebral and iconic.
Had so much game he had to share what was left with his sons…
1x Champ 1x FMVP
23. Kevin Garnett - The Big Ticket. The 00’ Giannis. In every way but he had a better jumper midrange and beyond. KG was a monstrosity on OFF/DEF in his prime much like his modern comparison.
Led the TWolves to relevance and led the 08’ Celtics to a chip. Truly the BIG TICKET.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 1x MVP
24. Dirk Nowitzki - DIGGLER. The one and only. The German Bird. THE Maverick. Dirk is one of the most beloved, iconic and acclaimed players ever. The 00’s stretch big supreme.
Dirk was able to take the Mavs to immortality over 11’ Heat in arguably the most surprising run ever.
Only Dirk. Forever the DIGGLER.
Arguably, the GOAT Euro player.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 1x MVP
25. Bob Pettit - Big Blue was the first stretch 4 in the games history. That’s for starters. Pettit was a tenacious rebounder and highly skilled scorer.
He was much akin to K. Love of his era but in better shape and played defense. Think a smaller Dirk who grabbed boards like Love but in the 50’s-60’s era. Not only that, much like Dirk, Pettit lead a historic upset over Russell’s Celtics. A true champ.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP
26. Dwayne Wade - The Flash.
Wade County. The greatest Heat in NBA history. Wade is arguably the best defensive player at his position and easily too3 (MJ, Kobe). Led the Heat to a title in 06’ in historic fashion against Dirks Mavs.
Then winning a couple more as LBJ’s Pippen. His career was like Kobe’s… in reverse. Wade’s early injuries reduced his maximum career output but yet here he is… says a ton.
3x Champ 1x FMVP
27. Elgin Baylor - The PROTOTYPE.
Before West, Julius, Thompson, Wilkins, MJ, Hardaway, Kobe, Carter, TMac, Wade, Ant etc
There was Elgin Baylor. The first Air, the first Mamba, the first Half Man/Amazing, Flash etc
Baylor spearheaded an era that hardly wanted his talents there but had no other choice but to be in awe of it.
Think Harden, in shape but not as good of a playmaker, twice the rebounder and a better defender.
That’s Elgin.
*left a season before historic LAL title win
28. David Robinson - The Admiral.
The USA’s biggest weapon in the 90’s was also one of the greatest ever.
Made the spurs relevant pre-Duncan and post. Has some of the greatest seasons statistically. Think Giannis but 7’2 with a lefty and 15 footer plus an even better defender.
2x Champ 1x MVP
29. Karl Malone - the Mailman was LBJ minus the handles and vision.
King of the pick n roll.
1x MVP
30. Charles Barkley - The Round Mound of Rebound was the Tasmanian devil in a basketball jersey.
Prime 25 5 13 guy.
Impact everywhere he went.
OG DREAMTEAM member by the way…
1x MVP
30 (?) Clyde Drexler - The Glide. One of the most useful all around talents in nba history. One of the greatest two way players ever. Helped every squad he went to become a contender.
1x Champ
* HONORABLE MENTION:
McHale, Nash, Malone, Harden, Parker, CP3, Stockton, Walton, Payton, Westbrook, Drexler
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Kobe and Tim Better. Have more Champs, less loss, more skills than LeBron. Build supa teams. Not 1,not 2, not 3, not 4, etc, etc. 20 years with 3 1/2 champs🤣 6 losses, fall apart in the finals, cry every chance he gets. Who crowns themselves!? Not real KINGS and QUEENS🤣
@@BeachgirlKarlithe only problem I have with ppl talking about lebron losing 6 times is that with the exception of 2 of the finals his team was not favored and didn’t really have a chance. His team should have won against the mavs and you can make the argument that his team should have won against my spurs in 14’ but they got us the year before. His first finals my spurs were too good. And doesn’t matter who was gonna play against the warriors. They were a cheat code. But I’ll take Timmy over bron any day.
Great list but I definitely would put Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan and Hakeem Olajuwon above LeRoid James but everyone has their own list and I respect yours!!
Nice list, everyone has a different list and I've never tried to do a top 30.
@@rdogletree4543it’s ambitious but multi purposeful lol. Thanks.
Want more people to participate in discussions about the game and it’s history rather than just blind fandom
The league has dismantled defense so all these ballerinas of the modern age can dance. No fundamentals = no skills. Stop the bullshit
I’m Willing to say the 2013 and 14 spurs started what warriors ended up being. The spurs broke all the team and individual 3 point shooting records in the finals vs the heat in back to back finals. They knew that was their only chance to beat Miami. That’s actually why Miami lost so badly in the 2014 finals. Being down 20 at halftime 3 games in one series lol
Edward's is just talking now because he got him self a gold from the Olympics
Forgetting he got embarrassed at the world cup last year. He doesn't like having a longer memory😂
Who says this? This attitude probably rubbed off on him during the Olympic team.
You think the world cup would have humbled him
@@michellemaree3555 maybe if they lost. Either it rubbed off, or getting 90s defense played on him against the mavs is making him cope.
@blindprophet182 he didn't win the world cup.
As always boss u speaking facts all the names u were nameing I was thinking... We know because we saw great skills and fundamentals in 80s 90s . Fundamentals is lacking these days n nothing but disrespect from the young bucks. And the game so soft these days no enforcers no rim protectors no defence no hand checking. It's soft these days
You have to figure who was he just around ? LBJ , and it's funny now he is now talking dumb stuff crazy
F A C T S!!!!!!! SAID PERFECTLY!!!!!!
Larry Bird and LoKA has the same skill set but LoKa is top 5 player in this era
And Bird is a better shooter, defender and passer.
They forget that, among others, Michael Jordan saved basketball and made it the way it is right now, and this new generation is benefiting off the golden era of basketball period. All they have to do is shut up and handle the business and show just how good they are, win or lose
AE must be part of Klutch Sports
"I Got Skills"
-Tim Hardaway 1992
miller, drexler, ewing
1:02:25 wow 7 hours talking, no water, just at the computer is CRAZY!
There's a whole Hall of Fame
Since when is just being respectful become so hard to do? I was always told if you dont have anything nice to say then dont say anything
Oakley is about like Draymond 😅. Skilled players magic, isaiah, earl monroe,World b free, Akeem etc bad commentary Edwards
It’s to the point it’s really weird. I sometimes wish the NBA would just go away. The most unlikeable generation of players in sports history. And it will only get worse.
What is this new Los Vagas NBA Emirates cup even mean to the NBA.Sound like another stat padding, wink, wink bs.🤨 Oh lawd Charles, Lebron would trip and fall ova himself if he has to do them ball skills🤣🤣
LeBron and Rich Paul started this foolishness because LeBron has nothing on Jordan. The idea is/was discredit Jordan and his era, diminish them to uplift LeBron and WHY has some of it worked? Because LeBron and Klutch KNOW that today’s generation not only worships LeBron BUT and sadly find RESPECT IN BEING DISRESPECTFUL!! I’ve seen it with some of these kids in my hood, if I leave a little grey in my goatee and start making shots….5 in a row, 10 in a row they start calling me trash. WHY? Because I’m wearing a Jordan jersey doing it
LBJ and clutch got in his ear…
Yep
This is the era of endless pick and roll and step-back threes!
Michael Jordan is the GOAT!!!!
Facts
It seems after they compared this young man to Michael Jordan he has lost his natural born mind.
This has a lot to do with parenting I believe because if you look at old tapes on RUclips or you happen to be alive during this time, you watch and listen to the youth of the 70s or the 80s, even the 90s, I hate to say this, but those younger people are more articulate, they knew their history, especially in the field in which they wanted to work or dominate. I listen to some of these young bloggers talking about music, but they don’t know who Sarah Vaughn was,They can’t tell you who Curtis Mayfield was. Anthony Edward’s speaks recklessly, and I believe it’s for attention. I must say and I hope this doesn’t offend anyone, but I grew up in the South Bronx, where respect was everything and I truly believe that the reason that so many youths deleting each other or get deleted. Also, back in the day you could have the worst gangster in the hood (One of them was my Cousin) 😅 and we had guns, but less people were hurt because everyone understood respect. This young man must learn “There’s a difference between being confident and being arrogant” and you know who teaches you that your parents! Who raised this talented yet disrespectful young man?
With all due respect, you can do the whole name thing with any generation. Anthony Edwards, is not the first person to ever say this…I don’t care about Jordan or Lebron but this argument has become so redundant. Funny thing is both fan bases are doing the same exact thing but calling out the other. Someone says something about either one of these ninjas and it’s like someone put the Batman symbol in the air…
Do you agree with Edward?
No, I don’t but I also don’t fully agree with what he’s saying in this video.
Point is anyone can make supportive statements to back what they want. However, when you are so adamant and strong about something and not willing to have a legitimate conversation, that’s where we separate.
When was it frowned upon to have healthy dialogue? Is there something wrong with subjectivity all of a sudden? It’s crazy to think EVERYONE has to believe what you do or they are the ones that’s crazy. I just can’t f with that.
Again, I don’t even fully disagree with him. However, I can never wholeheartedly agree with someone that’s not open to a discussion that doesn’t fit what they believe. Like we really gonna sit here and act like the NBA didn’t evolve?
I still will listen to this dude. He’s cool and all but I will refrain from the Jordan/Lebron conversations cause that shit is so played out and old man. Gotta be other shit to talk about🤦🏿♂️
I'm in 14,15😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣 and I stopped 😅 This video is legendary (full of legends 🐐) -(full of unskilledful legends😮😄😂🤣🤣)