I also love how _Puss In Boots 2_ correctly portrayed therapy dogs. In the movie when Perrito notices Puss having a panic attack he _doesn't_ tell a joke nor start licking Puss' face, he rests his head on Puss' stomach and helps him steady his breathing and allow him to pet him.
@@phasemollasis6748it’s hard to put in one word… it’s like cool, but also “[you/this thing/etc etc] is correct and/or cool to me”. Like, I agree with this person or thing and think it/they’re cool. Idk I tried, like I said it’s difficult to put in one word since it is one word, just one that not everyone has picked up the meaning of through repeated use. OH- praiseworthy is actually probably a great near synonym! Based is often expressed online/in memes as the opposite of “cringe”, which is short for “cringeworthy”. So similar to praiseworthy is the best one word parallel I can think of to “based”. I hope this helped even a little bit. I know internet/meme lingo can be a lot to learn, absolutely no judgment for not getting it. I once too had to learn all this, I’m just online too much and learned it a while ago 😅
@@caseys2698in the original context of the word iirc, Based means "something that isnt normally discussed/said, but is still widely agreed upon and supported" or smthn like that My memory is a little hazey
Ikr!! I’m not interested in the show, I just love the Paw Patrol movie saga. I felt bad for Chase when he had that panic attack, he became my favorite Paw Patrol puppy, that and I have anxiety too. It is funny when you think about it. A movie based on a preschool show does better than an adult show. 😂
The difference of a animation team that knows what they are doing vs a team that doesnt, it isnt about the genre, is about how determinated you are to make it good i guess@@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112
@@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112Same tbh, Chase having a panic attack felt genuinely important to me. I’m pretty sure the dogs in Paw Patrol are supposed to be children, showing that kids can have panic attacks too. That representation isn’t something we get often, especially in kids movies.
"Shyness isn't cowering in a corner and not wanting to speak. Shyness is wanting to speak at every moment and not being able to. That's what anxiety is". So true
Yea, this. I was called "shy" when still little because I don't like to speak or meet people, and that's what I also believe. As I grew old, I realize I was mostly anti-social when young, not shy.
@hafirenggayuda same. I was always labelled as the shy kid at my church cos I never spoke to any of the adults. As I've got older I've realised it was just selective mutism as a result of my autism
I know very little about anxiety, but Puss’ panic attack just felt so raw and real- you could feel and understand how pure the fear was. The technique was wonderful
Same! I have never had a panic attack, but that scene really helped me to rationalize it and also to really empathize with him and people who go through that. They captured such a strong emotion and I really feel something deep and intense when I watch that scene.
As someone who has suffered a panic attack and has not seen the new Puss in Boots movie, this really does seem to capture a panic attack well. It was hard to watch this video as a result. Mine was far more severe than this though but this captures moments leading up to the full breadkown. This is a mild panic attack by Puss in Boots...a full blown panic attack keeps going until you lose all emotions and are just full of so much emotion and anger that you mostly black out.
It really does, the effect of the screen and the sound it is really like that, you start hearing less Just your thoughts, you cant see xorrectly because of the bad breathing too, because you start having difficulty to breath, sometumes you feel you are going to faint
Death is a primal fear. We instinctually want to keep on living, especially when we are young and are not ready to embrace in it. Puss lives through an instinct he hadn't thought he'd live through. Taking his lives for granted backfired in such the way that Death has a spiteful opportunity to keep on scaring Puss.
Yeah. I don't even have anxiety, but I know a lot of people who do have it, so watching that scene from "Puss in Boots" almost made me cry because it shows exactly what a real panic attack feels like, and what was even better was that it also showed the best way to comfort someone who's going through the panic attack. Perrito's kindness was what caused Puss to finally pull himself back together, even without a little dialogue, and I couldn't be happier about that.
Puss in boots really made me realize how painful it must be to see someone going through moments of panic. I have had episodes of anxiety before and had to rely on others to help me. I've never realized how hard it must have been to not understand what is happening to someone and not know how to help
I feel this. I've been having a lot of silent panic attacks lately or major depressive episodes or something I'm not entirely sure. But it's like I'm barely there and my fiancé has said it's really scary for him :(
In situations like this it can be easy to apologize to loved ones for causing them stress. But it's so important to thank them for their love and help. I'm glad you have someone to care for you in times of need internet denizen.
My wife has had on and off struggles with panic attacks, and it is very difficult for me to deal with. If a man or animal were attacking her, I would fight for her and protect her. If it were hunger or some other physical need, I would work and fulfill the need. But I cannot fight a danger that exists only in her mind. I cannot mend her thoughts. I can only show her love and peace and support her to the best of my ability as she works it out. I can give her guidance on how to prevent them in the future, but only she can do anything to change them. The feeling of helplessness I feel when she has a panic attack is really awful. But I love her and will always be there for her, even when it is difficult.
Yeah. The first (and thankfully only) full fledged panic attack I've had came out of nowhere while I was sitting there watching silly videos with my older sister after having dinner at her place. I was scared because I thought I was having a heart attack and might die, but it must've been so scary from my sister's perspective. She was trying to be next to me, but also trying to get a neighbor to come over, and calling an ambulance. I honestly still don't know if it'd have been better to be alone while having that panic attack or not.
Probably the hardest part is if you have a passing understanding of panic attacks and are around people who you don't know that closely. What works for some absolutely sets others off, and without knowing them almost intimately and them not knowing you enough to trust you through a panic attack, the best thing to do is to just sit there and do _nothing_ .
“Adult animation” often just means it’s full of crass jokes that are inappropriate for children but are so lowbrow and immature that they could really only appeal to children.
Adult animation is a genre with wasted potential, most of them resort to crass childish humor but a few manage to use the medium to create engaging stories
@@ryansinbela6396 I guess if you are looking at western animation that might be the case, there are great examples of more mature animations on animes and hopefully shows like Arcane can push more mature stories into western animation.
I really admire the Puss in Boots panic attack portrayal as someone with a panic disorder because the use of the dolly zoom really shows how it feels to have that sort of tunnel vision. You can only focus on your own panic and what's causing it, nothing else around you seems to matter in that moment.
I feel like Tony Stark's panic attack in Iron Man 3 is often overlooked. Presumably it's his first panic attack and his immediate reaction is to assume he's been poisoned, by retreating to the suit and having Jarvis do some checks. It helped me identify what was going on when I had my first attack. It felt like my body was fighting *something*, like I was in danger but just couldn't see what was causing it. For some reason the scene in Iron Man 3 crossed my mind, and I realised I was having my first real panic attack. Now that I knew I wasn't in any actual danger, I could focus on getting my breathing under control. I guess what I'm saying is that accurate portrayals of things like panic attacks can help people. Seeing a show/movie portray something otherwise invisible or hard to describe can help us, either if we experience them ourselves, or by being able to show more empathy for others who experience them. Also fuck Velma, that show was a dumpster fire.
Rationalizing the panic attack and learning about it has been perhaps the biggest thing that helped me with them. For me realizing that it is your body fighting against something that isn't there and isn't serious helped me a great deal. It doesn't trivialize it but it helped a lot. The scariest places have always been those where I could have not done that, haven't understood what is happening.
I think the reason that Tony's panic attack is overlooked is that the movie doesn't really respect him for it; it's pretty much just played off and undercut with inappropriately timed humor.
@@stroud9208So I think I get what mean about the humor being used poorly however, while the movie isn't a homerun, the humor often comes at a good time to make clear that the person before you is the butt of their own joke. My favorite example is that Nick Fury makes fun of Tony Stark when we see him on the donut shop enjoying donuts. The scene itself is honestly not all that funny, but then with more context we realize why it is happening. Tony needed comfort, so he chose the fastest way to get to his comfort food and that is what he is eating at scene start. In the movie, it is made clear that we aren't really meant to like Nick Fury and that is established when he makes fun of Tony for essentially seeking out his own comfort. Though the movie sucks, so maybe I am coping a bit with this analysis since Iron man is my favorite avenger. (I don't count Spiderman he has been on like every superhero team)
Another factor is the sound. Not just the heartbeat, but at 0:01 the ears ring and the little crackling background noises add so much to the feel. And that's what got me the most.
Tw: Death Anxiety My favorite part of Puss' portrayal of anxiety, is when Perrito, someone who is normally upbeat and frantic, recognizes Puss' stress, and just lies his head on Puss' stomach to just be there for him. Its a portrayal of how to help someone having anxiety as an outside person. Its a portrayal of grounding techniques, which includes touch. Perrito's head on Puss' stomach would be a light weight (think like lightly weighed blankets, or plushies) which can be very calming. There's also the subject of what exactly is giving Puss anxiety, and that answer is Death. Not just Death as a character, but as a concept. Death anxiety is something that can be especially hard to shake, as it is the one thing that we all know for an undeniable fact, will come for us. And when it does, we won't be able to stop it. But it's hard to think of that aspect of death as a comfort, rather than freaking out over it subconsciously. I have Generalized Anxiety Disorder, and it's so bad that I have to take medication for it to stop. And believe me, I've tried other techniques. Breathing, Grounding, Talking myself out of it, taking warm showers or baths, having plushies to hold, cuddling the dog, etc. And death was one thing I've had incredibly bad anxiety about, and kind of still is, because I have art to make, stories to tell, a message to send and people to reach. I have food to try, and hobbies to try, and I- And it could end that quickly. So I could relate to Puss' anxiety over death so hard, that when he was having the panic attack, I started having a mild one. I understood the feeling of laying still and breathing, feeling your heart race against your hand and trying so desperately to be calm enough to slow it down. But I also felt so seen, so heard. I knew there were others out there like me, and there were people out there who would understand and comfort me if need be. I'm starting to cry writing this comment. Anyway, nice video, could've touched on other aspects of why this was so good, but still a nice video.
“I’m starting to cry writing this comment” I’ve started to cry reading it. This hit. It punched. Hardcore b8tchslapped me. A whole lot of what you wrote about is very real and a lot of people have this experience, but so many people have such a hard time talking about it. So thanks for this.
Seeing anxiety portrayed correctly makes me smile. It’s a pretty horrible condition. No matter how “strong” you think you are or how smart, once it gets to you you’re stuck with it till your body determines it’s not in danger and relaxes.
Yeah before I had such attacks, I was blissfully ignorant of those kinds of feelings even being able to exist. It's terrifying when you don't even know where it's going to go next. I've felt like I'm submerged under cold water, like all my pulmonary circulation just... escaped from the surface of my skin, while being drenched in sweat in minutes. I've had trouble seeing due to some odd rush of blood into my head, where all I could really see was that purple stuff that you see after looking at a bright light. Have felt like my chest is in a vice being crushed, equally hurting on my sternum and spine in the same spot.. not to mention the shortness of breath, dizzyness, heart beating harder than ever etc. Luckily I managed to break a cycle of them by finally getting fed up and starting to think "Give it all you've got then, COME ON" and when I stopped fearing for them always happening in certain situations and stopped fighting em, they have kinda stopped. Well... At least has been several years. Still, some of the most terrifying things I've experienced. Crazy how all that can just be caused by your mind... Edit: Oh and another thing that helped once was me asking my then-girlfriend to describe her day... not to react to the panic attack or talk anything about it, but just talk about trivial things and I tried to focus on that, to fill my mind with anything else except the panic. I've found watching a video won't work, but if I get them later on I might try an audiobook.. listening with eyes close would be my best bet. Though it's so very personal what works to help.
I had my first brush with anxiety disorder doing all of 2022 literally, it one of the worst years of my life so far and during the beginning of it all in January of that year, I had a severe panic attack….it felt like I was gonna literally die, that was one of the most unsettling experiences of my life to this day
And people who aren't shy don't understand. I've had someone semi related tell me straight up "just go talk to them" and didn't seem to understand the concept of "that is physically difficult, I cannot do that"
@@towcat I can't relate when it comes to speaking but I have crippling anxiety with needles, and I know the "I literally can't" feeling very well. Anxiety absolutely sucks.
I feel like everyone with mental illness can relate to “I literally can’t.” I have an eating disorder and if I had a penny for every time someone said “just eat it” I’d have a lot of penny’s.
Something I absolutely LOVE about the Puss anxiety attack is how tired and drained he is afterwards. I've suffered from panic attacks for about eleven years now and I've never really seen any show or movie tackle the after-effects of them.
@@Ironicchronicanxiety It's the adrenalin crash most likely! Panic attacks force your brain and body into the whole "fight or flight" scenario meaning that hormones like adrenaline and cortisol are pulling through you. When the anxiety recedes, so do the hormones, leaving you feeling exhausted and fatigued. I'm the same, I usually make myself go and rest for ten minutes (if I'm able) after a panic attack so my body can reset.
So true! Id always need a nap from the adrenaline crash but it's almost never addressed in media. The Last Wish made me cry, i felt so seen. Like when he was in the caves and was running from death, saw his friends, but was still too scared to run to them. Ive been there. Im glad my friends are understanding and patient, i dont want to ever make them feel hurt or betrayed in any way. But that overwhelming need to run and hide, man... i used to not be able to think my way out of it. Years of work and practice, im able to calm myself down and ride out the adrenaline rush, but years ago i wasnt able to and felt just like Puss. Though can we talk about how cool Death is?? The voice actor was the perfect choice. Cool but menacing at the same time, his voice gave me chills.
I think you missed the part of this conversation that stuck with me the most. How to deal with anxiety as a THIRD person. That's how I spot who did their homework of knowing what anxiety really like and portray a responsible message on a topic people are very uncultured. Puss had the dog. Caught that the cat was troubled and instead of loudness, obnoxiousness or being overly cartoony/memey. Just sat there. Not saying anything. Just shared warmth and another rhythmic lung/heartbeat. You know what Velma's writers say when your friend has a panic attack? That's right. Kiss them on the mouth. Because f your problems, my hot lips will make it go away, because its me you need to deal away your problems. So selfish and immature.
I would strongly advise against touching people without warning, especially during a panic attack, as the fight or flight response is already active, and the brain may automatically respond by attempting to strike the "threat" in an attempt to create more room for escape. This is especially true of approaching from outside their field of view, as this doesn't give the brain any time to recognize you and identify that you aren't a threat. Also don't do it if you don't know them well or haven't known them for long, because the brain may not trust you enough yet to recognize that you aren't a threat.
@@RandomGuy0400Yup this happened to me. My dad tried to comfort me, and I punched him on instinct. I didn’t mean to, but I literally could not control my movements in that moment despite trying hard too.
Velma's portrayal is just a straight up insult to people who suffer panic attacks. Something that would have made the Velma scene accurate AND heartwarming would be if Daphne actually helped Velma through her panic attack by giving her reassurance and care, and then once Velma calmed down, Velma would be the one to kiss her. It seems a lot more heartfelt than smooching someone having a hallucinatory panic attack and expecting that to work. Ted Lasso is easily the best in terms of realism and fear. The music mutes and rings, Ted's fingers start to curl and he runs. And when his his friends find out, they support him and talk him through it to calm him down. It's superb character building! I love the subtle details of the Puss in Boots one. The heart beat slowly getting fainter, the dry mouth as he swallows and catches his breath before talking, the brief moment where just has to process what happened before he’s able to let out a sigh of relief and speak. There’s a lot conveyed the instance where there’s almost nothing. It deeply humanizes the character and helps me understand his actions. Especially the way they tie back Perrito's wish to one day be a therapy dog! And the way Perrito slowly approaches and allows puss to determine if that is something he needs or wants to help him in that moment is just chef's kiss.
@@GoodUserMaadComment "So what" that doesn't mean you IGNORE people's problems. Moving forward for a better society and overall better lives is understanding each other and working together as we move along on this journey of life. Yes, life is rough, but it doesn't have to be that way, and yet that's the reality for people who suffer different things.
@@GoodUserMaadComment Do you realize how f##king insensitive and self centered that is??? Anxiety is a *serious* issue, many people have testified that it felt like they were *dying* during panic attacks, and to basically tell them “quit whining, everyone gets scared sometimes” is absolutely disgusting 😒
How is that accurate? Not everyone has supportive partners or be able to do something about it. Also if panic attacks are internal how the heck would anyone notice it?
I cried after that scene in puss in boots. It brought up a lot of suppressed emotions. That is PRECISELY what it feels like when you feel like you're running from death.
You're definitely not the only one. Both myself, and a handful of my friends who also suffer anxiety got a little bit misty-eyed at that scene too. The racing heart, that muted feeling like the real world and your mind are separated by a thick pane of glass, and even the fact it was a gentle, compassionate touch that helped Puss come down from it, unlike Velma who seemed to think the answer was "Hey, kiss the person without consent or warning. Forget the Hitch Rule of 'you go 90, they go 10, just go 100'." (Which I can say if someone did to me mid-panic attack, not only would my Fight/Flight kick in...but the person kissing me so abruptly would realize that most of the time, my brain opts for Fight.)
No same!! I was thinking about moments I’ve felt anxious or panicked and how nice it would’ve been to have my own “perrito” of sorts there to just sit and comfort. I bawled like a baby at that scene and it’s also just such an amazing movie
A good example of anxiety being portrayed in a fresh way is in the Silent Voice, when they use the Xs to cover up other people. I’d never seen it used before but it depicted the feeling of isolating urself from others out of fear of what would happen so well
@@Sun_S3t_22_Officialgo give it a try. There's no "big tragedy" that would make you sad for the entire weekend, it's more of a heartwarming story with a redemption arc. If it makes you cry it'll be bc of its touching climax.
Spoiler for Silent Voice: At the end when the Xs came off everyone’s faces I rly wanted to cry. I always wanted to live without the immense anxiety and be at peace.
something else that I feel is important to note is that anxiety can sometimes look and feel very different for different people. I've had pretty severe anxiety for pretty much my whole life, but I don't have a panic disorder and very rarely get panic attacks, which some people think is strange considering how bad my anxiety is. What I really liked about puss in boots is that even though the panic attack scene is the one that people mostly reference in regards to his anxiety, there are lots of other, more subtle nods to his fear throughout the whole film, a lot of which I can really relate to and appreciate. It was a theme that I wasn't expecting and it was one that really hit close to home!
I don't have panic disorder but did suffer a panic attack. What Puss in Boots describes well is the early stages of the attack. For me, it got much worse and I got full of so much emotion and anger that I basically blacked out or zoned out while screaming into a pillow. I was hyperventilating, heart racing, probably crying, and screaming into a pillow. It wasn't the slow motion shown in the video nor the slow build up -- the buildup to me was maybe a couple minutes tops and when it started to get close, it felt like I went from 30 to 100 almost immediately. Those few minutes before the fully came, I did feel like Puss did in this video. No idea how long it lasted but afterwards, I went into my first full depression. To do this day (17 years later), I can still feel that pain in my heart when I start talking about the panic attack. I feel most of what's described in this video are smaller panic attacks, but I don't know if what's described in the video is more common or what I went through was more common.
I used to suffer from severe anxiety and panic attacks without realizing it before I cut out my toxic family. Any time something set off my anxiety, all I felt was my heart racing and my limbs, especially around my joints, feeling like they were on ice. I never thought it was a panic attack until I described what I was feeling to my wife who has gone to medical school and done psych training and she was so comforting and supportive, calmly describing it as "likely a panic attack", asked what tended to trigger it, and helped me avoid those situations or sat with me afterwards. Thankfully, with my family out of the picture, I haven't had one in half a year.
Well done for cutting your toxic family out of your life, hopefully you recover man 🙏 Your wife sounds like an amazing person, hopefully she will help you get out of this or at least ease your mental struggle
Yes! My anxiety is more subtle. It doesn’t show externally, yet the feeling is physical and emotional and obnoxiously irrational. No amount of “I can handle the worst possible outcome of this.” will make the emotion fade or the physiological reaction stop.
Yes, it truly is different for everyone and can show vastly different symptoms. Personally, I had a period of very intense anxiety a few years ago, but never suffered panic attacks. Now however, I'm getting really frequent panic attacks but seem to be ok in between the attacks in terms of other symptoms. Just shows the different ways anxiety can present even in the same person.
The Owl House also does a decent job of showing a panic attack in the later portion of season 2. The character Hunter has a couple anxiety attacks in episodes S2E16 and S2E18. While they don't show the internal effects, instead opting for hyperventilation and physical signs of panic, the show has the characters around him react in a healthy way. I appreciate they did this, because it's a kid show and it could help teach younger audiences how to help in the case of a panic attack. One character explicitly says "don't crowd him" and reaches out to Hunter from a safe distance to give him proper space, and in another episode, they teach him something like square breathing techniques (counting to 4 using your fingers for in/out breath). While the portrayal was only external, I like that they took the panic attacks seriously, and had the characters reacting appropriately.
I love The Owl House 💜✨️. And omg, Hunter's panick attacks in Hollow Mind and Labyrinth Runners are so heartbreaking considering the situation he's in, and all the trauma he's been through 😔, but also really well done. I have to give major credit to his voice actor (Zeno Robinson) cause he did a phenomenal job.
they did it with gus as well even earlier than hunter, that's how he learned the breathing technique iirc. toh has always been pretty good about showing mental health issues and metaphors for them (i.e. when eda turns into the owl beast and her struggling to accept it as either a mental or physical disorder until the very end where she finally does)
The Owl House portrayed a lot of things in a great way. The LGBT characters are presented as just simply existing as that. There's no attention specifically brought to the fact really. Like Willow's dads where it's just simply mentioned she has 2 dads and then later you see them together. As you said, Hunter has many mental issues and they're all portrayed really well. One of the most important things about dealing with someone having a panic/anxiety attack is making sure you don't hold it against the person whatsoever. It's not like they *wanted* to go into a panic attack. Trust me.. nobody wants to.. it's one of the worst feelings having your mind and body fighting against itself for no reason and your adrenaline pumping the whole time too.
I was looking to see if anyone had brought up Owl House! The mental health issues the characters wrangle with are all handled beautifully, especially because of how the show models how the friends react and try to help. We talk about this with my own kids a lot because they understand I deal with anxiety, too, and it's given me a way to talk to them about what it means and what I need. These kids are seeing some incredible modeling of how to compassionately help friends and themselves dealing with mental health challenges. Owl House is a gem for so many reasons and it's opened so many doors for me as a parent to talk about hard things with my kids, from trauma to mental illness to ableism and even extremism and genocide. And on top of all that, it's just a genuinely good show we can enjoy together.
As someone who suffers from panic attacks, the portrayal in Puss In Boots seemed really well-done to me. It really captured the moment where the fear sets in, when everything else fades out, because your world rapidly shrinks to you and the terror and nothing else. The dog just laying there, not saying anything, absolutely works. No amount of questions, jokes, or-god forbid-kisses will end a panic attack. (fuck velma)
The thing is questions, jokes, etc can help *before* the attack. It can help with calming down the symptoms that lead up to the attack. However, if you are like mid attack there's really nothing you can do. Perrito quickly picks up on that and you can see he wants to say something but then decides to just lay there with him. Nearly all dogs will do this for their owners because they actually can instinctually pick up on the fact that it's not good to disturb you but is good to just support you. It's similar to how my friend has learned many ways to help distract my social anxiety. He can help me be in situations that would normally trigger me because he knows the triggers and how to distract me from feeling it too much. He also knows that only helps for so long and I will have to leave the situation at some point before it gets too bad. Which is the thing I think Velma really did wrong. You can't ever *stop* someone from feeling anxiety. Like you might be feeling anxious or panicky and call up a friend for help but they can't just stop the feeling suddenly. It'll only help to soothe it and hopefully quicken it. It's like medicine really.. it just kinda masks the symptoms enough that you can recover. It's not like you call up your friend, they make you laugh, and suddenly all the feelings are gone.
Yep. I HATE the "slap the person and they'll snap out of anxiety faster" trope so muchhhh, if someone slapped me while I was having a panic attack I'd go into a full meltdown and start running away from them. My feelings in a panic attack are highly amplified--especially fear. So if I don't believe they're safe to be around, I'm going to get as far away from them as possible. Maybe it can work for some people though, but don't bet on it happening and don't attempt it out of nowhere unless the person explicitly tells you that's a good method for them. In movies they tend to have scenes wherein someone grabs the person's face or hits them and tries to guilt/logic them back to reality. This is always portrayed as working because if it doesn't work, then the person having a panic attack is seen as unreasonable and stupid. It's so disrespectful.
@@ettaetta439Gumball did a thing like that when he was having a panic attack. Darwin smacked him, and Gumball said “Don’t do that! You know I respond better to cuddles!” Darwin tries again and cuddles him and then he calms down. It depends on WHAT kind of boundaries they have.
I want to contribute and say that one good day, everything seemed more real, and vibrant and now it feels like I'm stuck in some virtual reality I can't escape, despite everything still being the same.
@@ettaetta439 slapping sounds like a way to get someone into fight mode, there's probably a way to get them into flight mode and also freeze mode. Then there's calming down in a situation where they overreacted.
@@WhyTeea the animation is pretty good and while not on purpose, the very real thought that maybe Velmas mother did just run off on her and her dad, and wasn't kidnapped, all because she couldn't stand either of them is very funny to me
@@WhyTeea They gave fred but only fred actual character development. All characters are assholes (except maybe Velmas dad and step mom) but whenever they get confronted by their flaws they either ignore them or agknowledge that it is a flaw and continue with it anyway. Fred on the other hand start out child neglect levels of ignorant and incapable and learns by trial and error to not repeat his mistakes and to see from other perspectives on life. He is an asshole but his parents obviously failed him and he tries to learn to become a better person. It is why fred became the fan favourite in this mess.
The scene in Puss and Boots is so raw and real. I had a panic attack a few months ago when my brother was sick. Not only did Puss and Boots potray the beginning of the panic attack well, but it also portrayed the ending very well too. It's the rising panic you feel and you try to run from it, your heart beats rapidly and you lose balance or motor functions. Everything around you is a blur. And when it ends, you're lying on the floor and hyperventilating. (That's how my panic attacks go, though simplified)
I recently had a panic attack with my friends around but because it happened at an inconvenient time for them they saw it as me being selfish and immature and running away for no reason. I wish and hope I can make something so they can understand how it feels like to be in my place at that moment. Update: She wants to talk to me about what happened and warned me that it's going to hurt my feelings. She's either going to stop being my friend or blow up at me while telling me how years of my depression and anxiety have messed her up. On one hand I understand that's a lot to deal with and she should be upset but I just wish she didn't say triggering things when she's mad. But, most likely she's ending the friendship so I'll just tell her I understand and I'm sorry. Update 2: So we are no longer friends I got message that we needed to talk about what happened and I kind of had a feeling where it was going. So I talked to some people and realized that the only reason we were friends still was because we knew each other for 16 years and now we're holding each other back and hurting one another in different ways. So I texted that we should stop the friendship and they agreed . Update 3: I've notice people congratulating me and I feel bad because yes I did cut the friend off but a month later we eventually talked it out and we're better now. I'm not gonna lie and say I trust my friends when I have a panic attack in public. But, one is my oldest friend and the other is my roommate. I do hope I find someone who'll be there for me even if I have a public panic attack but I just wanted to be honest.
those aren't your friends. My first one happened with my two buddies in a cafeteria and they both got on Google to try to figure out what was happening and if there was anything we could do to treat it, then when we got back to the apartment we did a guided meditation. They were with me 100% the whole way
I should add that when I did have this panic attack we were on line at a crowded grocery store and one of my friends spent years dealing with me panicking and running away when I got overwhelmed I got better but I did it too much when we were kids. So it somewhat on me I have been working on it though and I do it less but I realize it cuts into the fun we have on occasions. But I am planning on disconnecting more from them because I no longer trust them with my emotions.
@@hinata167 Reals friends care about your well being first. If someone is a real friend being there for you is rewarding enough. If of course the other friend does the same
Puss in boots panic attack no joke brought me to tears. They got it perfectly, I wanted him to feel better so much. Loved Purrito just being there for him, thats what any true friend or loved one should do in a situation like that. I still remember my first panic attack from when I was younger. All I could do was lay there while freaking out internally, luckily my mother was there and helped me calm down. I remember her standing there with her hand on me telling me it would be ok. I don't think she realizes how much that meant to me. I am actually tearing up a bit right now thinking about it.
I loved Frozen long after every other adult was sick of it, bc Elsa's ice powers develop into a magical -- and therefore visual -- internally produced symptom of her social anxiety. "For the first time in forever - reprise" is basically a magical panic attack. Later, Elsa tells herself over and over, "Don't feel. Control it," as the ice spikes of her palace glow an eerie and threatening magenta, visually demonstrating how much she fears her own fear. After I was dianosed with panic disorder, I actually would use the "reprise" scene to explain to loved ones, "When I feel this storm, I can't process what you are saying, like how Elsa can't hear Anna telling her it will be ok because the wind -- the fear -- is so loud". Frozen was a very helpful analog during those conversations.
The web serials Worm & it's sequel, Ward, do something similar in that a large part of the overall story & it's themes is how the super-powers of the various characters act as metaphor, physical manifestations, and abstractions of their trauma / mental illness and how they deal with it. It also often shows various characters from the protagonist's POV and then later on does a chapter from that other characters POV, doing a deep dive into that character's personal perspective, story and problems. After reading that chapter will completely cause you to see that character in a new light.
That's why "Let It Go" was such an impactful song to me. It's literally all about her finally getting out and letting go of all those feelings rather than holding them in. You see that immediately afterwards she feels so much better about herself and life in general. She just doesn't realize that her magic is causing chaos for the city and her sister. That's when she realizes that yes she let it all go but now she doesn't really know how to turn it off.. then she saves her sister and realizes exactly how to control it all now. Honestly, cartoons now do extremely well at portraying things in a way that's not "in your face" and that kids will subtly understand. Also, the "don't feel, control it" bit comes from Elsa's parents telling her that because they thought her powers are connected to her emotions. So they figured if she just doesn't feel nothing bad will happen. The issue is all that did was suppress her emotions until they had to explode out causing like an ice age for the entire town. In the end you find that releasing her emotions actually is what puts her in control of her powers.
Panic attacks are something that fairly new to me, but it's connected to my PTSD. I survived a house fire last year. I thought I was alright, so I because a volunteer firefighter. When I went for my training earlier this year they had us don all of our protective gear, with full air tanks, and put us into a shipping container. They lit a bunch of plywood on fire a few feet from us and brought it to what we call "flashpoint" Flashpoint is an event in a fire where the air itself heats up so much that it basically combusts. It is not survivable without maximum protective gear and plenty of water. That was my first PTSD attack. So when I saw the Puss in Boots scene I choked up a bit, because a children's movie just showed what I felt. Same thing with Iron Man 3 when he has a PTSD attack on the sidewalk. It's not something I ever wanted to understand in such a personal way, but it's a part of my life now. And I'm glad there are shows and movies that can accurately show what it feels like.
It might have been difficult but I hope you didn't have to give up because of the PTSD. Deciding to be a firefighter is a brave decision and I hope you got better.
It's still crazy to me that Puss in Boots ended up being one of the best movies about mental health in recent memory and it started as a Shrek spin-off.
I’ve always loved puss in boots, ever since i watched it. As someone with bad anxiety it felt nice being represented correctly, i felt a connection with puss during his attack. The spider verse movies also portrayed it very well, for me at least.
I honestly believe the opening of Saving Private Ryan - though not explicitly depicting a panic attack - does a really good job of using all the important cinematic techniques when it comes to depicting anxiety and being overwhelmed (especially the use of the tinnitus ring which makes everything seem far away) and has been extremely influential when it comes to modern filmmaking conventions on those topics.
Contextually though, that’s an extreme example, the bloke is in the middle of a war. I think it’s warranted you’d be having a bit of a panic. Where this video seems more concerned with isolated incidents of characters dealing with more commonplace mental health panic attacks after having dealt with personally overwrought situations. Just thought Saving Private Ryan’s invasion of Omaha beach at the battle of Normandy was a pretty wild juxtaposition haha
@@samspamable He was talking about the opening. The movie opens with Ryan having aged significantly and going to a graveyard to honour the memory of the people who rescued him. There's no war anymore in that scene.
I think the thing which ultimately resonated with me so much about the Puss in Boots scene was Perrito The thing is, I personally don’t suffer from panic attacks. However I know many people closely who do. Therefore, whilst I sympathise with Puss in the scene, I relate to Perrito more because he is the character I would be in the scenario. I would be the one who has to try and help the person suffering The scene always breaks me emotionally because it shows me the importance of being that person who’s able to calm the victim down
The thing too is knowing how to calm the person down. There's many ways but it all depends on that particular person. The best thing when you don't know the person too well is to just be nearby (not crowding though) and maybe extend a hand for them to hold. The main thing is to not give off any kind of judgement. I think that's the part most people forget.. when people are actually having a panic attack they don't *want* to be in that situation. It feels absolutely terrible. That's why the bit with Perrito is so great. Like most dogs he instinctually picks up on the fact Puss needs help and he also picks up on the fact it's not the time for jokes or anything. You can see at first he almost says something but then just lays his head on him. No judgement and no trying to force the mood to change. He simply lets Puss recover. Another thing too is it's not *required* for someone to be there for the person to recover.. that's something to remember. There are people that recover much better if just left alone for a bit. Like for me I'll typically just rush somewhere private like a bathroom and stay there until it passes. Again the important thing there though is when that person does recover, don't judge for it. That just causes it to be worse.
Whenever my friend had panic attacks, I'd have him grab my hands and squeeze. Take multiple deep breaths. I wouldn't say anything unless he wanted me to. I'd stay until it passed.
The best depiction of panic attack i've seen in a TV show was Druck 3x03. The uncomfortably loud sounds overshadowing the background music, the character's frantic attempts to calm down, camera's rapid cuts, and then the character being absolutely exhausted after; as someone who used to suffer from anxiety attacks i felt this scene SO damn much
I loved the way Puss in Boots created the scene, to me, it felt like the absolute truth. Both my wife and I experience panic attacks and it made me tear up at just how accurate it was. They say you don't know how you would react in situations portrayed in action movies, but when it comes to pure unadulterated panic, it is a feeling we KNOW and FEEL. In a way, it is a feeling that is both panic and loneliness, you're stuck inside your head and you wish for everything in your power to just have it end, the only thing you can hear is your own thoughts, your heart, and the sound of your brain killing itself. My wife had a service dog (she's still alive just retired, she's an old girlie). Seeing Perrito give comfort really hit a mark in my soul, we truly don't deserve animals. Side Note: The time distortion effect is indeed a dramatic effect, however I believe this is more of a representation of the sudden onset of confusion when it happens, it's almost like losing track of where you are spatially and suddenly unable to perform any action whatsoever, it's as if you were standing there for 5 minutes when in reality only a few seconds has passed. So while it is indeed dramatic, it is basically a reality.
When that one heart attack scene came up in puss in boots, i was genuinely convinced, by the change of the visuals, the colour pallets, and even the style of animation in that particular scene, that puss was indeed in danger, and that he was doing his best to keep it calm. The moment his therapy dog rested his head on his stomach i immediately bursted into tears, that was very well done... good job dreamworks.
Yeah that's a really great one and I remember it impacting me during my playthrough. I often think back to the 'feather technique' on the daily whenever I feel angry or anxious
I’ve suffered form death anxiety-related panic attacks in the last few years and this movie was the first time I felt tat side of me has been truly seen. It made me feel less alone in the struggle.
A absolutely love the depiction in Iron Man 3 in the restaurant scene. It starts with calm conversation with Rhodes, then he gets agitated/defensive when Rhodes try to inquire about his well being. Then he has to put on a face when two kids walk up and ask for autograph, and that's when Rhodes says the trigger word "New York" and he starts losing it as the anxiety escalates. It has a very deliberate build up. It also shows one very important aspect of panic attacks, the social stigma of it. The scene ends with a crowd looking at him wondering what is going on and him leaving without being able to give an explanation.
One of the more subtle parts is that when you see his face in the armor for the first one, he's visibly on edge, rapid, jerky eye movement, stuttering, and so on.
I also liked that in Puss in Boots is showed the little dog sort of reacting in an appropriate way, once they realized that there wasn't something they could do to help (it wasn't something external that could be fought or removed) the dog just committed to being there for Puss, resting his head on his belly, trying to be a calming presence and be supportive and just waiting for Puss to get through it, he didn't try to force him to talk or belittle him to "snap out of it" he was just THERE WITH HIM.
I think the sound component as even more important than visuals. A clever team of filmmakers could use the sound perfectly to include us in the anxiety on the screen. Our eyes see the screen, the chair in front of us, the thin dust on the air, the sides of the screen ... but our ears hear only the movie.. the thumping heart, the fast breathing, the panting and talking with panic....they must also be perfect.
I recently had a very bad panic attack after my landlord and mother came both at me with severe accusations and more than aggressive behavior. It all came so suddenly that I tried to call my therapist but halfway through I couldn't speak, I started to hyperventilate, my doctor said to shut myself away from the source of the problem, drink water if I could and let her hear the source of the panic attack (my mother yelling like she had gone mad). Panic and anxiety attacks are never the same and varies from person to person. Some shut down completely and don't say a thing, others explode and react wildly. To say that a panic attack in a story MUST be done a certain way is dismissive; the important thing is that it feels natural, works for the story and characters presented and aids the development. Admittedly, people over-hyping the panic attack in Puss in Boots did annoy me for a bit since it's just but ONE example and there are many ways one can happen. I still commend the filmmakers for being genuine in this and not saying they shouldn't get the praise they deserve, but that people need to understand that panic attacks can't be all the same since everyone feels differently. And yes, Velma is the worst of them all because the attacks are easily dismissed after Velma laughs at Shaggy s genuine comments and then she gets kissed by Daphne. It never works that way.
True!! I have panic attacks but the scene in puss in boots didn’t quite resonated with me, the way the scene in the aviator with DiCaprio plays hit closer to home because (for me) the worst part of the attack is the dread of feeling it get closer, getting lightheaded and not knowing what to do but that’s the thing, there’s not one way of doing it right
I think people just got very excited with Puss in Boots because it came out at around the same time as Velma but it did the panic attack scene in a completely opposite way.
@@reggiel7313in another vein, my anxiety attacks feel like heart attacks. It becomes hard to breathe, my chest hurts, I get claustrophobic, etc. and this can go on for anywhere from a couple hours to literal days. The first time I had one I actually thought I was dying and my family responded to my pleas to go to the hospital with "sleep it off, you're okay" and I slept and was not okay and it got worse. I haven't seen any media portray anxiety attacks the way I experience them. I think the sequence in the Last of Us is the closest, but it's still not quite there. That is all to say that I agree with you. The experience is a little different for everyone and to try and cram it into a box is dismissive and a bit rude/uninformed. I'd also like to note that our friendly OP (the guy who made the video) used anxiety attacks and panic attacks interchangeably though they're not the same thing. They're different all the way from the cause to the symptoms. I feel like this distinction needs to be made more often.
What you had was an anxiety attack, panic attacks have no obvious cause or origin or trigger, you can't feel them coming on before they hit, they just hit instantly.
I saw myself in puss when he started having that panic attack I almost bursted into tears because I KNOW how painful it can be and how everything seems to slow down and everything seems to become more intense and harder to handle. Anyone else who is struggling wether it be now or at given point in time, you are NOT alone and we can work together to make it a little less tough! Take care of yourselves and have a great day/night ❤❤❤❤
Bocchi the Rock is one example of social anxiety done right in a comedic scene. For example, the protagonist, Bocchi, freaks out when asked about posting on social media. The art style changes, which makes it funny, yet her friends are so supportive of her.
As the show progresses, her friends know her so well that they can tell what goes on in her head, such as stating that she has deflated when confronted by some persistent beach-goers
I once had a mini panic attack at work and my friend literally told me that I didn’t because it wasn’t the same as theirs. I looked up the symptoms and remember feeling all of them but because I didn’t lose complete control and feeling like I’m about to die, I didn’t have one apparently. It hurt so much. It made my mini (and first) panic attack feel so invalid and like nothing. Like I should’ve just shrugged it off and continued working. I physically couldn’t.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. If a “friend” tells you that just because your panic attack isn’t the same as theirs, then they are not your friend, in my opinion. It doesn’t matter how small it is or how severe the symptoms are; panic attacks are panic attacks and should *always* be taken seriously, no exceptions.
No one experiences panic attacks the same way. There are absolutely common symptoms of a panic attack but some experience a symptom mildly, some don't at all and some to an extreme level. Every experience can be as scary, debilitating, and painful as the next but all are still valid. No friend should minimise your feelings and suffering like that
Please tell me you dropped that friend. I've learned over the years that when someone's having panic attacks I just either leave them alone to give them a moment to calm down-- or touch their shoulder with the 'hey, i'm right here, you're okay' in a low tone. I haven't had to do it in years since I became a shut-in. At one point, I wanted to be a therapist. In another life I will be.
Dude, that's wild. Me and my family had no idea I was having a continuous panic attack for 2 weeks nonstop because it's symptoms were DIARRHEA and vomiting lmao. I went to the er and got bloodwork done, nothing came up, got more tests and was recommended I see a psych. Got diagnosed with panic attack disorder. Like the symptoms are the randomest things! I'd never even consider diarrhea as a mental health disorder symptom it's crazy. So don't think too much about that person judging you over a short list of symptoms some people experience. The list is almost endless.
Inside Out fact many don't know: It's partially inspired by a defunct Epcot attraction. You see, Epcot at Disney World in Florida used to have a pavilion called Wonders of Life. And within this pavilion was a show called Cranium Command where a little soldier named Buzzy had to pilot a twelve-year-old boy by making sure the parts of the body (represented by other humans) were all working together. Wonders of Life closed in 2007. Pete Docter, Inside Out's director, actually worked on the preshow of this attraction. The fact that even a preschool show like Paw Patrol did it better than Velma is so hilarious. It’s torture having to ride it out and wait for the panic to gradually pass. The elevated heart rate & fast breathing, the fact that you suddenly feel completely separated from your surroundings, the simultaneous need for physical space and need for comfort. Velma does a lot of weird dunking on therapists & people who seek counseling in addition to the bad portrayal of panic attacks and it leaves a particularly bad taste. Like how in Rio 2, Roberto has PTSD and he has panic attacks in the film, he even goes as far to start screaming stuff (repeating what he has said during the traumatic event as he relived it) to himself and not being able to listen to anyone. And my biggest issue with that is that it’s mostly played up for laughs bc “haha smooth and suave character is actually a mess” and it does the stupid “snap out of it” trope.
Aw I remember Wonders of Life!!! Unfortunately I wasn’t born yet sadly but I would’ve loved to experience it. Old Epcot was nostalgic. And yes I laughed at the fact PAW Patrol did better than Velma. Ngl I love the PAW Patrol movie, and I’m excited for the sequel.
I recently saw Inside Out 2…(do not press “Read More” if you haven’t seen the movie) Near the ending, Anxiety pushes Riley too hard where she accidentally gets her friend Grace hurt, and Riley steps out of the game and Anxiety messes up the controls causing a giant orange tornado to swirl around her console, and Joy and the emotions come back up to yank out the orange sense of self that says “I’m not good enough!” which was made by Anxiety herself. They yanked it out, and a new sense of self forms by forming the good, bad, and everything between, but overall saying “I am a good person!”. Joy stops Anxiety and saves both Anxiety and Riley, which leads to Riley apologizing to her friends, and Bree and Grace forgive her, and they finish the game together. One of the most intense Pixar scenes I’ve ever seen in my life.
Ive had a few panic attacks, and I think it very much depends on the person. Not everyone experiences them the same, at least from my experience. I personally just completely freeze up (Im talking completely go rigid and can't even blink) Vision washes red in waves, and my mind basically completely dissolves into a pool of anxiety and depression.
As someone who has panic attacks multiple times per week, puss and boots did so so well, it really shows the reality of panic attacks, and the part where he tries calming down is how I feel when isolating myself so I can calm myself.
the Puss In Boots scene always makes me tear up, not because i know what panic attacks feel like, but because the movie gave me a good idea of it, and it's just nice to see a whole gem like this handle adult topics with so much maturity while still being suitable for a young audience too. it respects the viewer so much and that's such a rare thing especially in animation because it's often looked down upon as some sort of genre specifically for children, thus "not needing to be good".
0:29 I super appreciate you spotlighting Bo because hearing about how the closer of Make Happy came about and what it meant to him was so heavy. Even if he walked back some of his comments about his feelings towards the audience (which was good and healthy) the fact that he went through that so many nights while doing something he once did as a joyful passion is heartbreaking.
I love how puss shows that even if the general panic attack is "over", you still cant escape it. Even afterwards you still feel the effect that it has on your body and mind
The portrayal of anxiety in puss in boots is genuinely so accurate, the sort of swirling fuzzy vision, the mix of slow breathing and quick breathing, also I REALLY love the detail of when Perrito places his head on Puss' chest / torso, deep pressure therapy is often something therapy and service dogs are taught to do to reduce panic, I really really like that detail.
Ik the time the vid was made inside out two wasn’t out yet,but the inside out 2 portrayal was awesome. It took so many interviews. The really thought about the realism.
I love your channel, please never change please never go corporate I sometimes compare your channel to nerdstalgic I feel like they're in the same vein and nerdstalgic went from being this homegrown feeling to cookie cutter corporate You are so real and genuine and I hope you never lose the heart that comes through in every episode! I give this one 11 monkeys outta 7 kangaroos
I think Nerdstalgic is ok but yeah it's definitely a noticeable step down from a channel like this in terms of quality because of its assembly-line approach to making videos
I feel there is a bit of a difference between a panic attack and an anxiety attack. Panic attacks come out of nowhere while anxiety attacks are in response to something
As someone who has SEVERE panic disorder, I was really surprised at how well Puss in Boots represented panic attacks. The beginning of his panic attack in particular (shown at 0:00) is very accurate to how I experience them. I think a lot of the portrayals of panic attacks and anxiety focus on showing fear, when in reality a panic attack is more like an intense, prolonged sense of dread. I’ve described it to people as being like if that moment of “oh shit” when you miss a step going down the stairs was stretched out to last 10-30 minutes. I think the combination of everything slowing wayyy down, Puss’s hair standing on end, the ominous whistle, and the way he freezes really captures that feeling. I also appreciate that it happens literally in the middle of a fight. Panic attacks come out of nowhere, and usually not when it’s convenient. Instead of having him panic at a time that would fit better in the plot, they accurately showed how panic attacks kind of force stop on everything else. I’ve had a LOT of opportunities to observe my own panic attacks and understand how they work, and i can confidently say I'm not ambitious enough to try representing one in film even though it’s a topic I have extensive personal experience with. It’s such an intense, subjective experience and there are so many moving parts that it’s hard to understand it myself, let alone explain it to someone on the outside. For that reason I find successful portrayals of panic attacks ESPECIALLY impressive.
something that made puss in boots 2's panic attack sequence wasn't the hair or the running or the heavy breathing, it was the heart beat for me. when I have panic attacks, I constantly hear my heart beat and not much else in my ears because when we were younger, that's what i would hear to calm me down, my mother's steady heart beat.
Hank's panic attack/PTSD/flashbacks are only a meme due to the popularity of the series. I think it did a great job showing a more aggressive attack, shooting it like he's having a heart attack, and his general confusion as to what is even happening. It's also a huge turning point in his character. He starts off as some obnoxious alpha male constantly cracking vaguely racist jokes with his shitty co-workers, then he encounters even worse cop and endures trauma and really ends up humbled to the audience. It really sets him up to become the eventual moral centre of the story. It's not as though panic attacks have some duty to always be something subdued. Sometimes panic is just panic.
Yes! Thank you, I thought I was alone feeling that jab was a little unwarranted lol. Even though I'm not diminishing Puss in Boots depiction, it's not really close to what I experience when I get panic attacks: Hank feeling that he's physically unwell is a lot closer to home.
I'm currently in progress of developing a VR horror game based around someone who strugles with social anxiety. Thanks for the break-down of this, I was having trouble coming up with a way to truly show a panic attack, although this is from the third-person perspective I'm sure some of it can translate well into the first-person
@@spaghettiisyummy.3623 wow, thanks for asking. I've decided that game was a little complex to be my first ever game, so I've pivoted to a digital version of single player betrayal at house on the hill. But I still have this game in mind, and I'm learning more and more on how to get to my goal.
When I had my first panic attack, I ran out of the room at work, sat on the ground, and held my legs slowly rocking back and forth. I had tears streaming down my face, I was hyperventilating, and staring into nothing. It took a bit for me to even realize that my sisters were there, talking to me and patting my knee. I was just staring out repeating "don't yell at me, don't yell at me, please." It was scary. If it was scary for me, I couldn't imagine how my coworkers and sisters felt seeing me in that state.
I’m known to have a panic attack every once in a while, so while I was rewatching Puss’ scene I almost had one myself out of pure empathy. The scene felt so real even though it’s an animated cat.
Sensory overload is such a huge problem when it comes down to anxiety. I remember the last time I had a panic attack, I was in my house alone, and My house is very quiet, but the AC was blowing and all my brain could do was focus on how loud the air was. It caused me to start uncontrollably shaking and my heart pounded so hard I thought I was dying. I just sat in the same place for almost 20 minutes just doing breathing exercises. The entire time I had this looming sense of dread that came out of no where, that usually doesn’t leave even after you calm yourself down. Puss in Boots perfectly articulates that sense of dying you get when your dealing with a panic attack and the sense of looming dread and isolation that you get.
As someone who used to have panic attacks (one of them causing me to take off running aimlessly into the woods at night) this scene in Puss perfectly encapsulated the result of your fight or flight mode, specifically the flight part. This scene depicts the feeling of fear so primal that you have no choice but to take off running. Where any shadow can be mistaken for a threat. Where your body is so pumped with adrenaline, you dont care if your body trips or falls, you don't register your surroundings even as you stumble. Your body keeps moving. Both mind and body keep scrambling with the sole goal of escaping whatever caused you to feel so scared. And then finally the crash of exhaustion but your body still trying keep the adrenaline going.
I’m diagnosed with panic disorder, and when I was in high school, it got to the point where I was having panic attacks daily and it got so bad to the point where I almost took my own life. So i’ve really been through it, and I can definitely confirm that Puss in Boots does an amazing job portraying what it feels like
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is one of the best movies I've seen in the last 10-some years. The group of people who made it absolutely pretty much nailed everything in the movie. Haven't seen a near-perfect movie since The 5th Element.
kids can enjoy good writing too… like they’d enjoy everything, but it is real special when you grow up and find that something you are nostalgic for holds up really well. This is going to be one of those movies for people.
When I watched Last Wish the first time, seeing the portrayal of Puss's anxiety and seeing Perrito acting like how a real-life therapy dog would really hit a personal chord. I have anxiety myself, and have even thought about a therapy dog, and it just felt so raw and genuine and personal. Very few scenes have struck me in such a way before. It almost feels comforting to see it portrayed so genuinely and to see Perrito make good on his therapy dog dream. I barely even have the words for it, honestly. I had to pause the movie for a minute after that scene.
Your videos are so great. Love 'em! Had to rewatch the Breaking Bad panic attack scenes and especially the elevator one striked me at how well and real it felt. It's not a long one but it captures that sudden attack that comes from nowhere and disappears twice as fast and then you just go with your friends acting as though nothing had happened.
Great to see panic attacks and anxiety presented in a realistic fashion. I used to get anxiety attacks pretty often and I never let anyone know about them.
Honestly watching this now i think that anxiety from inside out was both a good character and a bad one. the anxiety attack was cool because it symbolizes how it feels to have a panic attack in your mind while on the outside riley's reaction was pretty accurate (speaking from experience) since she is young and that was her first panic attack, yet at the same time the fact that anxiety herself is an emotion and the way that she is advertised doesn't show the true nature of how horrible anxiety can be since disney's way of portraying it seems to be that anxiety is something everyone feels when it isnt. You can argue for both sides but personally, i would have rather had another character instead of her because it just seems like shes replacing fear and fear happens to be my favorite character.
Without even actually watching the series, I can already tell that what Velma is really having is not a panic/anxiety attack, rather a psychotic episode
I have general anxiety disorder, and i have panic attacks when my anxiety gets too high. I really appreciated Puss in Boots' depiction of a panic attack. I understood how he was feeling in that scene and it just really resonated with me.
I literally cried so much watching puss in boots, because (1) storyline and (2) how relatable and accurately they portrayed anxiety and other emotions.
I think another good representation of a panic attack is in shadow and bone s2 when Kaz has one in the stadwatch carriage because it shows that he is freaking out but trying not to let others know. It's really subtle at first and the other people around him don't notice something is off until he actually almost throws up. Showing kaz swallowing a lot and trying to not make any faces really depicts accurately what it is like to try your best to not outwardly panic and stop it before it gets really bad. I feel like its a good representation of a panic attack in someone who gets them enough to know what is happening.
What a great depiction. My earliest experience with panic attacks before I experienced them, was Jessie in Toy Story 2. "I can't do storage again!" I could feel her desperation and the pain it caused her, the lack of control. Some directors feel the need to dumb things down TOO MUCH for kids, or make it lighthearted so the child doesn't have to sit in yucky emotions. Children experience anxiety, disordered or not. Having these scenes depicted properly is an opportunity to teach coping mechanisms, give them the language, to show that mental anguish doesn't exclude you from performing heroic acts. Recognizing emotion is something most of us learn as infants, so let scary be scary and guide them into their next milestone of regulating those emotions.
I remember seeing that. I felt bad for Jessie. She’s my favorite Toy Story character. Seeing her panic attacks in the Halloween special where they got stuck at the motel, Jessie’s POV of claustrophobia and the fear in her eyes really scared me, same for Woody’s nightmare in Toy Story 2 and the incinerator in Toy Story 3.
When i saw the movie i simply could relate to that scene, how your heart beat runs, you get anxious, you start thinking incoherently, is a visual experience that i saw and it was beautiful. The whole movie, in a visual way, is a blessing to your eyes.
I'm so glad you mentioned that panic attacks can be subtle on the outside. I've got an anxiety disorder and I've had panic attacks that were so hard for anyone around me to notice because most of my symptoms were internal. People who don't have anxiety don't always understand that you can't always see when someone is panicking. It can look subtle on the outside when it's anything but subtle on the inside.
As someone with a lot of anxiety problems, including agoraphobia, i cried when Peurito(sorry if i misspelled) set his head on Puss. Reminded me when a pyschology class had a therapy dog in and some of us sat down next to him and he instantly set his head on my lap. His handler asked if i was okay, and i was anxious from being triggered in the class earlier and thought of leaving if i didnt already know the dogs would be there and thought seeing them would be enough to help me calm down, and him setting his head on me and petting him definitely helped. That scene reminded me so much of that moment it made me happy to see.
For me it was how he was lost in himself and the hyperventilating with no real external danger around. I think moving to that objective view from Perrito grounded the scene, whereas other depictions that remain with the subjective camera work don’t make it as clear there’s no real external danger, it’s all internal.
another amazing repersentation of a panick attack is in gumball (somehow) but instead of showing how it feels, it shows people how to react by instead of trying to "snap them out of it", you actually just have to be with them in the moment, show them its gonna b okay. its amazing that it came from such a crazy show that normally tries to make everything exaggerated :D
Of the examples you used, I’ve only seen The Last of Us and Iron Man 3, both of which had pretty good panic attack depictions. I don’t have them often but I get random panic attacks (maybe 2 a year) and mine cause my hands and arms to go numb and draw up, among other things. Panic attacks are one of the most indescribable sensations I’ve ever encountered, so it’s incredible when media depicts one in a meaningful and understandable way. Puss in Boots seems as if it did a good job.
The thing with Puss in Boots is that, throughout the attack, it draws you back to reality. As someone with an anxiety disorder who suffers from singularity triggers like Puss does, watching this scene genuinely gave me flashbacks to prior attacks I had been through. It shows Puss's mind trying to pull him into the attack and his logic trying to pull him away, as we see with the branches being the wolf but then quickly showing they were only ever trees and the wolf statue that his mind distorts into being Death, but when he sees it again after passing the tree he sees what it truly is. The camera switch continuity error is, to me at least, supposed to portray the sense of lost memories when having a panic attack. It is clear that the people who made the film had advisors who have had experience with these kind of things, as often I find myself almost blacking out during my attacks and so one moment I'll be doing one things and then I snap into reality where I'm doing something else. It also displays the use of support animals such as the dog, which is very realistic and the way he calms down is incredibly natural, and not sudden. On the other hand, we have Velma. Everything is a shitty metaphor and the tones are all wrong. It's more like an Artaud PTSD piece, and less like an attempt at a serious panic attack. She also just kind of stops having a panic attack, which isn't how they work, and she seems to be phasing in and out of it at times which, again, isn't what a panic attack is like. It's as though the creators watched an A-Level Drama piece about stress and thought: "This. This is what it's like. This is what we need. Hyperventilation, hallucinations and comic relief. That's not a panic attack. That's asthma, a bucketload of LSD, and that one high friend jumping off a roof into a pool that they forgot to take the cover off.
I also love how _Puss In Boots 2_ correctly portrayed therapy dogs. In the movie when Perrito notices Puss having a panic attack he _doesn't_ tell a joke nor start licking Puss' face, he rests his head on Puss' stomach and helps him steady his breathing and allow him to pet him.
Puss in Boots 2 continues to be based, man.
@@notdwaddler2013What does based even mean?
@@phasemollasis6748it’s hard to put in one word… it’s like cool, but also “[you/this thing/etc etc] is correct and/or cool to me”. Like, I agree with this person or thing and think it/they’re cool. Idk I tried, like I said it’s difficult to put in one word since it is one word, just one that not everyone has picked up the meaning of through repeated use.
OH- praiseworthy is actually probably a great near synonym! Based is often expressed online/in memes as the opposite of “cringe”, which is short for “cringeworthy”. So similar to praiseworthy is the best one word parallel I can think of to “based”.
I hope this helped even a little bit. I know internet/meme lingo can be a lot to learn, absolutely no judgment for not getting it. I once too had to learn all this, I’m just online too much and learned it a while ago 😅
@@caseys2698in the original context of the word iirc, Based means "something that isnt normally discussed/said, but is still widely agreed upon and supported" or smthn like that
My memory is a little hazey
@@phasemollasis6748it means grounded, legit, true.
I had no idea Paw Patrol was such a cinematic masterpiece worthy of multiple mentions of textbook storytelling
i see you on every comment section xd
Ikr!! I’m not interested in the show, I just love the Paw Patrol movie saga. I felt bad for Chase when he had that panic attack, he became my favorite Paw Patrol puppy, that and I have anxiety too.
It is funny when you think about it. A movie based on a preschool show does better than an adult show. 😂
The difference of a animation team that knows what they are doing vs a team that doesnt, it isnt about the genre, is about how determinated you are to make it good i guess@@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112
@@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112Same tbh, Chase having a panic attack felt genuinely important to me. I’m pretty sure the dogs in Paw Patrol are supposed to be children, showing that kids can have panic attacks too. That representation isn’t something we get often, especially in kids movies.
@@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112 Same.
"Shyness isn't cowering in a corner and not wanting to speak. Shyness is wanting to speak at every moment and not being able to. That's what anxiety is". So true
Yes, sometimes.
True that
Yea, this. I was called "shy" when still little because I don't like to speak or meet people, and that's what I also believe. As I grew old, I realize I was mostly anti-social when young, not shy.
@hafirenggayuda same. I was always labelled as the shy kid at my church cos I never spoke to any of the adults. As I've got older I've realised it was just selective mutism as a result of my autism
yeah Bo hit me hard with this quote.
Everything in Velma is a good example of how not to execute a concept.
Step One: If Mindy Kaling is your sole audience, then it's no good for anyone else.
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Step two: Promptly dispose of in nearest incinerator.
Step 3: Learn to not mess with a bigger franchise because your contribution might disgrace it
Step four: just no
I know very little about anxiety, but Puss’ panic attack just felt so raw and real- you could feel and understand how pure the fear was. The technique was wonderful
Same! I have never had a panic attack, but that scene really helped me to rationalize it and also to really empathize with him and people who go through that. They captured such a strong emotion and I really feel something deep and intense when I watch that scene.
As someone who has suffered a panic attack and has not seen the new Puss in Boots movie, this really does seem to capture a panic attack well. It was hard to watch this video as a result. Mine was far more severe than this though but this captures moments leading up to the full breadkown. This is a mild panic attack by Puss in Boots...a full blown panic attack keeps going until you lose all emotions and are just full of so much emotion and anger that you mostly black out.
It really does, the effect of the screen and the sound it is really like that, you start hearing less Just your thoughts, you cant see xorrectly because of the bad breathing too, because you start having difficulty to breath, sometumes you feel you are going to faint
Death is a primal fear. We instinctually want to keep on living, especially when we are young and are not ready to embrace in it.
Puss lives through an instinct he hadn't thought he'd live through. Taking his lives for granted backfired in such the way that Death has a spiteful opportunity to keep on scaring Puss.
Yeah. I don't even have anxiety, but I know a lot of people who do have it, so watching that scene from "Puss in Boots" almost made me cry because it shows exactly what a real panic attack feels like, and what was even better was that it also showed the best way to comfort someone who's going through the panic attack. Perrito's kindness was what caused Puss to finally pull himself back together, even without a little dialogue, and I couldn't be happier about that.
Puss in boots really made me realize how painful it must be to see someone going through moments of panic. I have had episodes of anxiety before and had to rely on others to help me. I've never realized how hard it must have been to not understand what is happening to someone and not know how to help
I feel this. I've been having a lot of silent panic attacks lately or major depressive episodes or something I'm not entirely sure. But it's like I'm barely there and my fiancé has said it's really scary for him :(
In situations like this it can be easy to apologize to loved ones for causing them stress. But it's so important to thank them for their love and help. I'm glad you have someone to care for you in times of need internet denizen.
My wife has had on and off struggles with panic attacks, and it is very difficult for me to deal with. If a man or animal were attacking her, I would fight for her and protect her. If it were hunger or some other physical need, I would work and fulfill the need. But I cannot fight a danger that exists only in her mind. I cannot mend her thoughts. I can only show her love and peace and support her to the best of my ability as she works it out. I can give her guidance on how to prevent them in the future, but only she can do anything to change them. The feeling of helplessness I feel when she has a panic attack is really awful. But I love her and will always be there for her, even when it is difficult.
Yeah. The first (and thankfully only) full fledged panic attack I've had came out of nowhere while I was sitting there watching silly videos with my older sister after having dinner at her place.
I was scared because I thought I was having a heart attack and might die, but it must've been so scary from my sister's perspective. She was trying to be next to me, but also trying to get a neighbor to come over, and calling an ambulance.
I honestly still don't know if it'd have been better to be alone while having that panic attack or not.
Probably the hardest part is if you have a passing understanding of panic attacks and are around people who you don't know that closely. What works for some absolutely sets others off, and without knowing them almost intimately and them not knowing you enough to trust you through a panic attack, the best thing to do is to just sit there and do _nothing_ .
Yes, I loved that "Puss in Boots" treated their audience like adults, while "Velma", which is nominally an adult animation, did the complete opposite!
“Adult animation” often just means it’s full of crass jokes that are inappropriate for children but are so lowbrow and immature that they could really only appeal to children.
Velma isn't exactly supposed to be a mature series.
Adult animation is a genre with wasted potential, most of them resort to crass childish humor but a few manage to use the medium to create engaging stories
@@ryansinbela6396 I guess if you are looking at western animation that might be the case, there are great examples of more mature animations on animes and hopefully shows like Arcane can push more mature stories into western animation.
Velma was just executed poorly. They could've made an adult ani.ated scooby doo project work.
I really admire the Puss in Boots panic attack portrayal as someone with a panic disorder because the use of the dolly zoom really shows how it feels to have that sort of tunnel vision. You can only focus on your own panic and what's causing it, nothing else around you seems to matter in that moment.
PUsS iN BOOts HaS tHe MoSt REALISTic dePICTion of A paNIC aTTacK 🤡
I've had one panic attack and I thought I was dying. I can't imagine living like that constantly.
@@XMillyyX i hope you have another
@@Willkanapski 💀
@@Willkanapski Dang bro
I feel like Tony Stark's panic attack in Iron Man 3 is often overlooked. Presumably it's his first panic attack and his immediate reaction is to assume he's been poisoned, by retreating to the suit and having Jarvis do some checks. It helped me identify what was going on when I had my first attack. It felt like my body was fighting *something*, like I was in danger but just couldn't see what was causing it. For some reason the scene in Iron Man 3 crossed my mind, and I realised I was having my first real panic attack. Now that I knew I wasn't in any actual danger, I could focus on getting my breathing under control.
I guess what I'm saying is that accurate portrayals of things like panic attacks can help people. Seeing a show/movie portray something otherwise invisible or hard to describe can help us, either if we experience them ourselves, or by being able to show more empathy for others who experience them.
Also fuck Velma, that show was a dumpster fire.
Rationalizing the panic attack and learning about it has been perhaps the biggest thing that helped me with them. For me realizing that it is your body fighting against something that isn't there and isn't serious helped me a great deal. It doesn't trivialize it but it helped a lot. The scariest places have always been those where I could have not done that, haven't understood what is happening.
I think the reason that Tony's panic attack is overlooked is that the movie doesn't really respect him for it; it's pretty much just played off and undercut with inappropriately timed humor.
@@stroud9208 No the humor was fine its only started getting overused after endgame
@@stroud9208So I think I get what mean about the humor being used poorly however, while the movie isn't a homerun, the humor often comes at a good time to make clear that the person before you is the butt of their own joke. My favorite example is that Nick Fury makes fun of Tony Stark when we see him on the donut shop enjoying donuts. The scene itself is honestly not all that funny, but then with more context we realize why it is happening. Tony needed comfort, so he chose the fastest way to get to his comfort food and that is what he is eating at scene start. In the movie, it is made clear that we aren't really meant to like Nick Fury and that is established when he makes fun of Tony for essentially seeking out his own comfort.
Though the movie sucks, so maybe I am coping a bit with this analysis since Iron man is my favorite avenger. (I don't count Spiderman he has been on like every superhero team)
IM3 is underrated
Another factor is the sound. Not just the heartbeat, but at 0:01 the ears ring and the little crackling background noises add so much to the feel. And that's what got me the most.
I love the use of... what seems to be springs to make the crackling? That noise very well represents that feeling of continuously building dread.
Tw: Death Anxiety
My favorite part of Puss' portrayal of anxiety, is when Perrito, someone who is normally upbeat and frantic, recognizes Puss' stress, and just lies his head on Puss' stomach to just be there for him. Its a portrayal of how to help someone having anxiety as an outside person. Its a portrayal of grounding techniques, which includes touch. Perrito's head on Puss' stomach would be a light weight (think like lightly weighed blankets, or plushies) which can be very calming.
There's also the subject of what exactly is giving Puss anxiety, and that answer is Death. Not just Death as a character, but as a concept. Death anxiety is something that can be especially hard to shake, as it is the one thing that we all know for an undeniable fact, will come for us. And when it does, we won't be able to stop it. But it's hard to think of that aspect of death as a comfort, rather than freaking out over it subconsciously.
I have Generalized Anxiety Disorder, and it's so bad that I have to take medication for it to stop. And believe me, I've tried other techniques. Breathing, Grounding, Talking myself out of it, taking warm showers or baths, having plushies to hold, cuddling the dog, etc. And death was one thing I've had incredibly bad anxiety about, and kind of still is, because I have art to make, stories to tell, a message to send and people to reach. I have food to try, and hobbies to try, and I-
And it could end that quickly.
So I could relate to Puss' anxiety over death so hard, that when he was having the panic attack, I started having a mild one. I understood the feeling of laying still and breathing, feeling your heart race against your hand and trying so desperately to be calm enough to slow it down. But I also felt so seen, so heard. I knew there were others out there like me, and there were people out there who would understand and comfort me if need be. I'm starting to cry writing this comment.
Anyway, nice video, could've touched on other aspects of why this was so good, but still a nice video.
I absolutely love how you worded this and it's articulated so well. Thank you :)
“I’m starting to cry writing this comment”
I’ve started to cry reading it. This hit. It punched. Hardcore b8tchslapped me.
A whole lot of what you wrote about is very real and a lot of people have this experience, but so many people have such a hard time talking about it. So thanks for this.
I relate to this.. your comment reminds me I’m not alone ❤
This is a genuinely beautiful comment. Thank you for sharing this.
Wonderfully put, as a haver of GAD myself, your descriptions are beyond accurate. Best of luck to you!
Seeing anxiety portrayed correctly makes me smile. It’s a pretty horrible condition. No matter how “strong” you think you are or how smart, once it gets to you you’re stuck with it till your body determines it’s not in danger and relaxes.
It doesn't get to me, because I'm too smart.
Yeah before I had such attacks, I was blissfully ignorant of those kinds of feelings even being able to exist. It's terrifying when you don't even know where it's going to go next.
I've felt like I'm submerged under cold water, like all my pulmonary circulation just... escaped from the surface of my skin, while being drenched in sweat in minutes. I've had trouble seeing due to some odd rush of blood into my head, where all I could really see was that purple stuff that you see after looking at a bright light. Have felt like my chest is in a vice being crushed, equally hurting on my sternum and spine in the same spot.. not to mention the shortness of breath, dizzyness, heart beating harder than ever etc.
Luckily I managed to break a cycle of them by finally getting fed up and starting to think "Give it all you've got then, COME ON" and when I stopped fearing for them always happening in certain situations and stopped fighting em, they have kinda stopped. Well... At least has been several years.
Still, some of the most terrifying things I've experienced. Crazy how all that can just be caused by your mind...
Edit: Oh and another thing that helped once was me asking my then-girlfriend to describe her day... not to react to the panic attack or talk anything about it, but just talk about trivial things and I tried to focus on that, to fill my mind with anything else except the panic.
I've found watching a video won't work, but if I get them later on I might try an audiobook.. listening with eyes close would be my best bet. Though it's so very personal what works to help.
I had my first brush with anxiety disorder doing all of 2022 literally, it one of the worst years of my life so far and during the beginning of it all in January of that year, I had a severe panic attack….it felt like I was gonna literally die, that was one of the most unsettling experiences of my life to this day
The "shyness is wanting to speak but being unable to" hits WAY much harder than it should for some reason.
And people who aren't shy don't understand. I've had someone semi related tell me straight up "just go talk to them" and didn't seem to understand the concept of "that is physically difficult, I cannot do that"
@@towcat I can't relate when it comes to speaking but I have crippling anxiety with needles, and I know the "I literally can't" feeling very well. Anxiety absolutely sucks.
I feel like everyone with mental illness can relate to “I literally can’t.” I have an eating disorder and if I had a penny for every time someone said “just eat it” I’d have a lot of penny’s.
because it’s relatable, that slapped
@@BBar13Feel you, i struggled with an ed for a while.. hope it gets better :((
Something I absolutely LOVE about the Puss anxiety attack is how tired and drained he is afterwards.
I've suffered from panic attacks for about eleven years now and I've never really seen any show or movie tackle the after-effects of them.
So true! Some of my best naps were right after crashing off a panic attack
@@Ironicchronicanxiety
It's the adrenalin crash most likely! Panic attacks force your brain and body into the whole "fight or flight" scenario meaning that hormones like adrenaline and cortisol are pulling through you. When the anxiety recedes, so do the hormones, leaving you feeling exhausted and fatigued.
I'm the same, I usually make myself go and rest for ten minutes (if I'm able) after a panic attack so my body can reset.
So true! Id always need a nap from the adrenaline crash but it's almost never addressed in media. The Last Wish made me cry, i felt so seen. Like when he was in the caves and was running from death, saw his friends, but was still too scared to run to them. Ive been there. Im glad my friends are understanding and patient, i dont want to ever make them feel hurt or betrayed in any way. But that overwhelming need to run and hide, man... i used to not be able to think my way out of it. Years of work and practice, im able to calm myself down and ride out the adrenaline rush, but years ago i wasnt able to and felt just like Puss.
Though can we talk about how cool Death is?? The voice actor was the perfect choice. Cool but menacing at the same time, his voice gave me chills.
I think you missed the part of this conversation that stuck with me the most.
How to deal with anxiety as a THIRD person.
That's how I spot who did their homework of knowing what anxiety really like and portray a responsible message on a topic people are very uncultured.
Puss had the dog.
Caught that the cat was troubled and instead of loudness, obnoxiousness or being overly cartoony/memey.
Just sat there. Not saying anything. Just shared warmth and another rhythmic lung/heartbeat.
You know what Velma's writers say when your friend has a panic attack?
That's right. Kiss them on the mouth. Because f your problems, my hot lips will make it go away, because its me you need to deal away your problems.
So selfish and immature.
What do you mean by third person?
Probably trying to say how to deal with someone that is experiencing anxiety.
I would strongly advise against touching people without warning, especially during a panic attack, as the fight or flight response is already active, and the brain may automatically respond by attempting to strike the "threat" in an attempt to create more room for escape.
This is especially true of approaching from outside their field of view, as this doesn't give the brain any time to recognize you and identify that you aren't a threat.
Also don't do it if you don't know them well or haven't known them for long, because the brain may not trust you enough yet to recognize that you aren't a threat.
It was beautiful that in that moment Perrito instinctually became a therapy dog for Puss. Exactly what he needed.
I love this movie!
@@RandomGuy0400Yup this happened to me. My dad tried to comfort me, and I punched him on instinct. I didn’t mean to, but I literally could not control my movements in that moment despite trying hard too.
Velma's portrayal is just a straight up insult to people who suffer panic attacks. Something that would have made the Velma scene accurate AND heartwarming would be if Daphne actually helped Velma through her panic attack by giving her reassurance and care, and then once Velma calmed down, Velma would be the one to kiss her. It seems a lot more heartfelt than smooching someone having a hallucinatory panic attack and expecting that to work. Ted Lasso is easily the best in terms of realism and fear. The music mutes and rings, Ted's fingers start to curl and he runs. And when his his friends find out, they support him and talk him through it to calm him down. It's superb character building!
I love the subtle details of the Puss in Boots one. The heart beat slowly getting fainter, the dry mouth as he swallows and catches his breath before talking, the brief moment where just has to process what happened before he’s able to let out a sigh of relief and speak. There’s a lot conveyed the instance where there’s almost nothing. It deeply humanizes the character and helps me understand his actions. Especially the way they tie back Perrito's wish to one day be a therapy dog! And the way Perrito slowly approaches and allows puss to determine if that is something he needs or wants to help him in that moment is just chef's kiss.
Velma was an insult to literally everyone for every conceivable reason.
You say suffer like it’s a disease. Just get over it. Life is rough so what keep it moving.
@@GoodUserMaadComment "So what" that doesn't mean you IGNORE people's problems. Moving forward for a better society and overall better lives is understanding each other and working together as we move along on this journey of life. Yes, life is rough, but it doesn't have to be that way, and yet that's the reality for people who suffer different things.
@@GoodUserMaadComment Do you realize how f##king insensitive and self centered that is??? Anxiety is a *serious* issue, many people have testified that it felt like they were *dying* during panic attacks, and to basically tell them “quit whining, everyone gets scared sometimes” is absolutely disgusting 😒
How is that accurate? Not everyone has supportive partners or be able to do something about it. Also if panic attacks are internal how the heck would anyone notice it?
I cried after that scene in puss in boots. It brought up a lot of suppressed emotions. That is PRECISELY what it feels like when you feel like you're running from death.
You're definitely not the only one. Both myself, and a handful of my friends who also suffer anxiety got a little bit misty-eyed at that scene too. The racing heart, that muted feeling like the real world and your mind are separated by a thick pane of glass, and even the fact it was a gentle, compassionate touch that helped Puss come down from it, unlike Velma who seemed to think the answer was "Hey, kiss the person without consent or warning. Forget the Hitch Rule of 'you go 90, they go 10, just go 100'."
(Which I can say if someone did to me mid-panic attack, not only would my Fight/Flight kick in...but the person kissing me so abruptly would realize that most of the time, my brain opts for Fight.)
No same!! I was thinking about moments I’ve felt anxious or panicked and how nice it would’ve been to have my own “perrito” of sorts there to just sit and comfort. I bawled like a baby at that scene and it’s also just such an amazing movie
I also cried.. real men cried during that panic attack scene..
I felt the same way! I started crying from how it captured the exact feeling.
@@Meowmeowimthebiggestcat anxiety is a bitch
A good example of anxiety being portrayed in a fresh way is in the Silent Voice, when they use the Xs to cover up other people. I’d never seen it used before but it depicted the feeling of isolating urself from others out of fear of what would happen so well
That part of the movie made me cry, especially the ending. As someone with anxiety I understood instantly. That movie is incredible ❤
I truly want to watch it but I feel like I would cry. I'll try to watch it anyways.
@@Sun_S3t_22_Officialgo give it a try. There's no "big tragedy" that would make you sad for the entire weekend, it's more of a heartwarming story with a redemption arc. If it makes you cry it'll be bc of its touching climax.
My favorite anime movie 👍
Spoiler for Silent Voice:
At the end when the Xs came off everyone’s faces I rly wanted to cry. I always wanted to live without the immense anxiety and be at peace.
something else that I feel is important to note is that anxiety can sometimes look and feel very different for different people. I've had pretty severe anxiety for pretty much my whole life, but I don't have a panic disorder and very rarely get panic attacks, which some people think is strange considering how bad my anxiety is. What I really liked about puss in boots is that even though the panic attack scene is the one that people mostly reference in regards to his anxiety, there are lots of other, more subtle nods to his fear throughout the whole film, a lot of which I can really relate to and appreciate. It was a theme that I wasn't expecting and it was one that really hit close to home!
I don't have panic disorder but did suffer a panic attack. What Puss in Boots describes well is the early stages of the attack. For me, it got much worse and I got full of so much emotion and anger that I basically blacked out or zoned out while screaming into a pillow. I was hyperventilating, heart racing, probably crying, and screaming into a pillow. It wasn't the slow motion shown in the video nor the slow build up -- the buildup to me was maybe a couple minutes tops and when it started to get close, it felt like I went from 30 to 100 almost immediately. Those few minutes before the fully came, I did feel like Puss did in this video.
No idea how long it lasted but afterwards, I went into my first full depression. To do this day (17 years later), I can still feel that pain in my heart when I start talking about the panic attack.
I feel most of what's described in this video are smaller panic attacks, but I don't know if what's described in the video is more common or what I went through was more common.
I used to suffer from severe anxiety and panic attacks without realizing it before I cut out my toxic family. Any time something set off my anxiety, all I felt was my heart racing and my limbs, especially around my joints, feeling like they were on ice. I never thought it was a panic attack until I described what I was feeling to my wife who has gone to medical school and done psych training and she was so comforting and supportive, calmly describing it as "likely a panic attack", asked what tended to trigger it, and helped me avoid those situations or sat with me afterwards. Thankfully, with my family out of the picture, I haven't had one in half a year.
Well done for cutting your toxic family out of your life, hopefully you recover man 🙏
Your wife sounds like an amazing person, hopefully she will help you get out of this or at least ease your mental struggle
Yes! My anxiety is more subtle. It doesn’t show externally, yet the feeling is physical and emotional and obnoxiously irrational. No amount of “I can handle the worst possible outcome of this.” will make the emotion fade or the physiological reaction stop.
Yes, it truly is different for everyone and can show vastly different symptoms. Personally, I had a period of very intense anxiety a few years ago, but never suffered panic attacks. Now however, I'm getting really frequent panic attacks but seem to be ok in between the attacks in terms of other symptoms. Just shows the different ways anxiety can present even in the same person.
The Owl House also does a decent job of showing a panic attack in the later portion of season 2. The character Hunter has a couple anxiety attacks in episodes S2E16 and S2E18. While they don't show the internal effects, instead opting for hyperventilation and physical signs of panic, the show has the characters around him react in a healthy way. I appreciate they did this, because it's a kid show and it could help teach younger audiences how to help in the case of a panic attack. One character explicitly says "don't crowd him" and reaches out to Hunter from a safe distance to give him proper space, and in another episode, they teach him something like square breathing techniques (counting to 4 using your fingers for in/out breath). While the portrayal was only external, I like that they took the panic attacks seriously, and had the characters reacting appropriately.
I love The Owl House 💜✨️. And omg, Hunter's panick attacks in Hollow Mind and Labyrinth Runners are so heartbreaking considering the situation he's in, and all the trauma he's been through 😔, but also really well done. I have to give major credit to his voice actor (Zeno Robinson) cause he did a phenomenal job.
they did it with gus as well even earlier than hunter, that's how he learned the breathing technique iirc. toh has always been pretty good about showing mental health issues and metaphors for them (i.e. when eda turns into the owl beast and her struggling to accept it as either a mental or physical disorder until the very end where she finally does)
The Owl House portrayed a lot of things in a great way. The LGBT characters are presented as just simply existing as that. There's no attention specifically brought to the fact really. Like Willow's dads where it's just simply mentioned she has 2 dads and then later you see them together. As you said, Hunter has many mental issues and they're all portrayed really well. One of the most important things about dealing with someone having a panic/anxiety attack is making sure you don't hold it against the person whatsoever. It's not like they *wanted* to go into a panic attack. Trust me.. nobody wants to.. it's one of the worst feelings having your mind and body fighting against itself for no reason and your adrenaline pumping the whole time too.
I was looking to see if anyone had brought up Owl House! The mental health issues the characters wrangle with are all handled beautifully, especially because of how the show models how the friends react and try to help. We talk about this with my own kids a lot because they understand I deal with anxiety, too, and it's given me a way to talk to them about what it means and what I need. These kids are seeing some incredible modeling of how to compassionately help friends and themselves dealing with mental health challenges.
Owl House is a gem for so many reasons and it's opened so many doors for me as a parent to talk about hard things with my kids, from trauma to mental illness to ableism and even extremism and genocide.
And on top of all that, it's just a genuinely good show we can enjoy together.
wait i dont remember the "dont crowd him" line. what scene was that??
As someone who suffers from panic attacks, the portrayal in Puss In Boots seemed really well-done to me. It really captured the moment where the fear sets in, when everything else fades out, because your world rapidly shrinks to you and the terror and nothing else. The dog just laying there, not saying anything, absolutely works. No amount of questions, jokes, or-god forbid-kisses will end a panic attack. (fuck velma)
The thing is questions, jokes, etc can help *before* the attack. It can help with calming down the symptoms that lead up to the attack. However, if you are like mid attack there's really nothing you can do. Perrito quickly picks up on that and you can see he wants to say something but then decides to just lay there with him. Nearly all dogs will do this for their owners because they actually can instinctually pick up on the fact that it's not good to disturb you but is good to just support you.
It's similar to how my friend has learned many ways to help distract my social anxiety. He can help me be in situations that would normally trigger me because he knows the triggers and how to distract me from feeling it too much. He also knows that only helps for so long and I will have to leave the situation at some point before it gets too bad. Which is the thing I think Velma really did wrong. You can't ever *stop* someone from feeling anxiety. Like you might be feeling anxious or panicky and call up a friend for help but they can't just stop the feeling suddenly. It'll only help to soothe it and hopefully quicken it. It's like medicine really.. it just kinda masks the symptoms enough that you can recover. It's not like you call up your friend, they make you laugh, and suddenly all the feelings are gone.
Yep. I HATE the "slap the person and they'll snap out of anxiety faster" trope so muchhhh, if someone slapped me while I was having a panic attack I'd go into a full meltdown and start running away from them. My feelings in a panic attack are highly amplified--especially fear. So if I don't believe they're safe to be around, I'm going to get as far away from them as possible.
Maybe it can work for some people though, but don't bet on it happening and don't attempt it out of nowhere unless the person explicitly tells you that's a good method for them. In movies they tend to have scenes wherein someone grabs the person's face or hits them and tries to guilt/logic them back to reality. This is always portrayed as working because if it doesn't work, then the person having a panic attack is seen as unreasonable and stupid. It's so disrespectful.
@@ettaetta439Gumball did a thing like that when he was having a panic attack. Darwin smacked him, and Gumball said “Don’t do that! You know I respond better to cuddles!” Darwin tries again and cuddles him and then he calms down. It depends on WHAT kind of boundaries they have.
I want to contribute and say that one good day, everything seemed more real, and vibrant and now it feels like I'm stuck in some virtual reality I can't escape, despite everything still being the same.
@@ettaetta439 slapping sounds like a way to get someone into fight mode,
there's probably a way to get them into flight mode and also freeze mode.
Then there's calming down in a situation where they overreacted.
The inside out 2 portrayal was also incredible
FRR
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SERIOUSLY
They took so many interviews
That’s a relief to hear!
To be fair, Velma did almost nothing right.
As a person who hasn’t and never will watch Velma, may I ask what right did they manage to pull off?
@@WhyTeea Velma got run over in one scene
@@WhyTeea the animation is pretty good and while not on purpose, the very real thought that maybe Velmas mother did just run off on her and her dad, and wasn't kidnapped, all because she couldn't stand either of them is very funny to me
@@WhyTeea They gave fred but only fred actual character development. All characters are assholes (except maybe Velmas dad and step mom) but whenever they get confronted by their flaws they either ignore them or agknowledge that it is a flaw and continue with it anyway. Fred on the other hand start out child neglect levels of ignorant and incapable and learns by trial and error to not repeat his mistakes and to see from other perspectives on life. He is an asshole but his parents obviously failed him and he tries to learn to become a better person. It is why fred became the fan favourite in this mess.
The only thing it did right was it caused that one horror short to spawn into existence. 's it
The scene in Puss and Boots is so raw and real.
I had a panic attack a few months ago when my brother was sick. Not only did Puss and Boots potray the beginning of the panic attack well, but it also portrayed the ending very well too.
It's the rising panic you feel and you try to run from it, your heart beats rapidly and you lose balance or motor functions. Everything around you is a blur. And when it ends, you're lying on the floor and hyperventilating. (That's how my panic attacks go, though simplified)
I recently had a panic attack with my friends around but because it happened at an inconvenient time for them they saw it as me being selfish and immature and running away for no reason. I wish and hope I can make something so they can understand how it feels like to be in my place at that moment.
Update: She wants to talk to me about what happened and warned me that it's going to hurt my feelings. She's either going to stop being my friend or blow up at me while telling me how years of my depression and anxiety have messed her up. On one hand I understand that's a lot to deal with and she should be upset but I just wish she didn't say triggering things when she's mad. But, most likely she's ending the friendship so I'll just tell her I understand and I'm sorry.
Update 2: So we are no longer friends I got message that we needed to talk about what happened and I kind of had a feeling where it was going. So I talked to some people and realized that the only reason we were friends still was because we knew each other for 16 years and now we're holding each other back and hurting one another in different ways. So I texted that we should stop the friendship and they agreed .
Update 3: I've notice people congratulating me and I feel bad because yes I did cut the friend off but a month later we eventually talked it out and we're better now. I'm not gonna lie and say I trust my friends when I have a panic attack in public. But, one is my oldest friend and the other is my roommate. I do hope I find someone who'll be there for me even if I have a public panic attack but I just wanted to be honest.
Sounds like you need new friends. You can't teach them to not be selfish once they hit adulthood.
those aren't your friends. My first one happened with my two buddies in a cafeteria and they both got on Google to try to figure out what was happening and if there was anything we could do to treat it, then when we got back to the apartment we did a guided meditation. They were with me 100% the whole way
I should add that when I did have this panic attack we were on line at a crowded grocery store and one of my friends spent years dealing with me panicking and running away when I got overwhelmed I got better but I did it too much when we were kids. So it somewhat on me I have been working on it though and I do it less but I realize it cuts into the fun we have on occasions. But I am planning on disconnecting more from them because I no longer trust them with my emotions.
@@hinata167 Reals friends care about your well being first. If someone is a real friend being there for you is rewarding enough. If of course the other friend does the same
@@hinata167 Good for you! There's better out there for you
Puss in boots panic attack no joke brought me to tears. They got it perfectly, I wanted him to feel better so much. Loved Purrito just being there for him, thats what any true friend or loved one should do in a situation like that.
I still remember my first panic attack from when I was younger. All I could do was lay there while freaking out internally, luckily my mother was there and helped me calm down. I remember her standing there with her hand on me telling me it would be ok. I don't think she realizes how much that meant to me. I am actually tearing up a bit right now thinking about it.
I loved Frozen long after every other adult was sick of it, bc Elsa's ice powers develop into a magical -- and therefore visual -- internally produced symptom of her social anxiety. "For the first time in forever - reprise" is basically a magical panic attack. Later, Elsa tells herself over and over, "Don't feel. Control it," as the ice spikes of her palace glow an eerie and threatening magenta, visually demonstrating how much she fears her own fear. After I was dianosed with panic disorder, I actually would use the "reprise" scene to explain to loved ones, "When I feel this storm, I can't process what you are saying, like how Elsa can't hear Anna telling her it will be ok because the wind -- the fear -- is so loud". Frozen was a very helpful analog during those conversations.
Elsa’s anxieties was one of Frozen’s best parts imo, and the ice was a good way to visualize it.
The web serials Worm & it's sequel, Ward, do something similar in that a large part of the overall story & it's themes is how the super-powers of the various characters act as metaphor, physical manifestations, and abstractions of their trauma / mental illness and how they deal with it.
It also often shows various characters from the protagonist's POV and then later on does a chapter from that other characters POV, doing a deep dive into that character's personal perspective, story and problems. After reading that chapter will completely cause you to see that character in a new light.
Yeah, same I still love frozen. Idc what anybody has to say. It’s also gonna be 10 years old this fall!
Overall I don't love Frozen but this symbolism between her powers and anxiety I thought was the best part of the movie
That's why "Let It Go" was such an impactful song to me. It's literally all about her finally getting out and letting go of all those feelings rather than holding them in. You see that immediately afterwards she feels so much better about herself and life in general. She just doesn't realize that her magic is causing chaos for the city and her sister. That's when she realizes that yes she let it all go but now she doesn't really know how to turn it off.. then she saves her sister and realizes exactly how to control it all now. Honestly, cartoons now do extremely well at portraying things in a way that's not "in your face" and that kids will subtly understand. Also, the "don't feel, control it" bit comes from Elsa's parents telling her that because they thought her powers are connected to her emotions. So they figured if she just doesn't feel nothing bad will happen. The issue is all that did was suppress her emotions until they had to explode out causing like an ice age for the entire town. In the end you find that releasing her emotions actually is what puts her in control of her powers.
Panic attacks are something that fairly new to me, but it's connected to my PTSD. I survived a house fire last year. I thought I was alright, so I because a volunteer firefighter. When I went for my training earlier this year they had us don all of our protective gear, with full air tanks, and put us into a shipping container. They lit a bunch of plywood on fire a few feet from us and brought it to what we call "flashpoint" Flashpoint is an event in a fire where the air itself heats up so much that it basically combusts. It is not survivable without maximum protective gear and plenty of water. That was my first PTSD attack. So when I saw the Puss in Boots scene I choked up a bit, because a children's movie just showed what I felt. Same thing with Iron Man 3 when he has a PTSD attack on the sidewalk. It's not something I ever wanted to understand in such a personal way, but it's a part of my life now. And I'm glad there are shows and movies that can accurately show what it feels like.
I'm glad you're okay! That is really kind of you to work on becoming a volunteer firefighter after enduring that
me and my service dog survived a house fire this past June. PTSD is very real and my heart goes out to you. thank you for sharing your story🫂💖
It might have been difficult but I hope you didn't have to give up because of the PTSD. Deciding to be a firefighter is a brave decision and I hope you got better.
It's still crazy to me that Puss in Boots ended up being one of the best movies about mental health in recent memory and it started as a Shrek spin-off.
I’ve always loved puss in boots, ever since i watched it. As someone with bad anxiety it felt nice being represented correctly, i felt a connection with puss during his attack. The spider verse movies also portrayed it very well, for me at least.
Yess especially spider man atsv portrays an anxiety attack really well when Miles is trying to get away from Miguel to get home
I honestly believe the opening of Saving Private Ryan - though not explicitly depicting a panic attack - does a really good job of using all the important cinematic techniques when it comes to depicting anxiety and being overwhelmed (especially the use of the tinnitus ring which makes everything seem far away) and has been extremely influential when it comes to modern filmmaking conventions on those topics.
Literally came here to say the same thing. Good job 👏
The amount of good will those first 20 minutes accumulated...
Contextually though, that’s an extreme example, the bloke is in the middle of a war. I think it’s warranted you’d be having a bit of a panic. Where this video seems more concerned with isolated incidents of characters dealing with more commonplace mental health panic attacks after having dealt with personally overwrought situations.
Just thought Saving Private Ryan’s invasion of Omaha beach at the battle of Normandy was a pretty wild juxtaposition haha
Agreed. I used to get tinnitus ringing in my ears during panic attacks
Luckily I don't get panic attacks anymore
@@samspamable He was talking about the opening. The movie opens with Ryan having aged significantly and going to a graveyard to honour the memory of the people who rescued him. There's no war anymore in that scene.
Just came back from watching Inside Out 2, that SCENE is up there with this
I think the thing which ultimately resonated with me so much about the Puss in Boots scene was Perrito
The thing is, I personally don’t suffer from panic attacks. However I know many people closely who do. Therefore, whilst I sympathise with Puss in the scene, I relate to Perrito more because he is the character I would be in the scenario. I would be the one who has to try and help the person suffering
The scene always breaks me emotionally because it shows me the importance of being that person who’s able to calm the victim down
The thing too is knowing how to calm the person down. There's many ways but it all depends on that particular person. The best thing when you don't know the person too well is to just be nearby (not crowding though) and maybe extend a hand for them to hold. The main thing is to not give off any kind of judgement. I think that's the part most people forget.. when people are actually having a panic attack they don't *want* to be in that situation. It feels absolutely terrible. That's why the bit with Perrito is so great. Like most dogs he instinctually picks up on the fact Puss needs help and he also picks up on the fact it's not the time for jokes or anything. You can see at first he almost says something but then just lays his head on him. No judgement and no trying to force the mood to change. He simply lets Puss recover. Another thing too is it's not *required* for someone to be there for the person to recover.. that's something to remember. There are people that recover much better if just left alone for a bit. Like for me I'll typically just rush somewhere private like a bathroom and stay there until it passes. Again the important thing there though is when that person does recover, don't judge for it. That just causes it to be worse.
Whenever my friend had panic attacks, I'd have him grab my hands and squeeze. Take multiple deep breaths. I wouldn't say anything unless he wanted me to. I'd stay until it passed.
The best depiction of panic attack i've seen in a TV show was Druck 3x03. The uncomfortably loud sounds overshadowing the background music, the character's frantic attempts to calm down, camera's rapid cuts, and then the character being absolutely exhausted after; as someone who used to suffer from anxiety attacks i felt this scene SO damn much
I loved the way Puss in Boots created the scene, to me, it felt like the absolute truth. Both my wife and I experience panic attacks and it made me tear up at just how accurate it was. They say you don't know how you would react in situations portrayed in action movies, but when it comes to pure unadulterated panic, it is a feeling we KNOW and FEEL.
In a way, it is a feeling that is both panic and loneliness, you're stuck inside your head and you wish for everything in your power to just have it end, the only thing you can hear is your own thoughts, your heart, and the sound of your brain killing itself.
My wife had a service dog (she's still alive just retired, she's an old girlie). Seeing Perrito give comfort really hit a mark in my soul, we truly don't deserve animals.
Side Note: The time distortion effect is indeed a dramatic effect, however I believe this is more of a representation of the sudden onset of confusion when it happens, it's almost like losing track of where you are spatially and suddenly unable to perform any action whatsoever, it's as if you were standing there for 5 minutes when in reality only a few seconds has passed. So while it is indeed dramatic, it is basically a reality.
When that one heart attack scene came up in puss in boots, i was genuinely convinced, by the change of the visuals, the colour pallets, and even the style of animation in that particular scene, that puss was indeed in danger, and that he was doing his best to keep it calm. The moment his therapy dog rested his head on his stomach i immediately bursted into tears, that was very well done... good job dreamworks.
I really like the portrayal of panic attacks in the game Celeste
Yeah that's a really great one and I remember it impacting me during my playthrough. I often think back to the 'feather technique' on the daily whenever I feel angry or anxious
@@SamWood64 feather technique?
@@betula2137 watch the panic attack scene from Celeste and you’ll see
@@SamWood64 Ah so imagine a feather in front of you, and breathe steadily to keep it afloat and in more control 🍃
@@SamWood64 definitely done that several times
Another good example of proper panic attack scene portrayal was Hunter’s panic attacks in The Owl House
I’ve suffered form death anxiety-related panic attacks in the last few years and this movie was the first time I felt tat side of me has been truly seen. It made me feel less alone in the struggle.
I need an updated version that also talks about the Inside Out 2 anxiety attack
A absolutely love the depiction in Iron Man 3 in the restaurant scene. It starts with calm conversation with Rhodes, then he gets agitated/defensive when Rhodes try to inquire about his well being. Then he has to put on a face when two kids walk up and ask for autograph, and that's when Rhodes says the trigger word "New York" and he starts losing it as the anxiety escalates. It has a very deliberate build up.
It also shows one very important aspect of panic attacks, the social stigma of it. The scene ends with a crowd looking at him wondering what is going on and him leaving without being able to give an explanation.
One of the more subtle parts is that when you see his face in the armor for the first one, he's visibly on edge, rapid, jerky eye movement, stuttering, and so on.
I also liked that in Puss in Boots is showed the little dog sort of reacting in an appropriate way, once they realized that there wasn't something they could do to help (it wasn't something external that could be fought or removed) the dog just committed to being there for Puss, resting his head on his belly, trying to be a calming presence and be supportive and just waiting for Puss to get through it, he didn't try to force him to talk or belittle him to "snap out of it" he was just THERE WITH HIM.
I think the sound component as even more important than visuals. A clever team of filmmakers could use the sound perfectly to include us in the anxiety on the screen. Our eyes see the screen, the chair in front of us, the thin dust on the air, the sides of the screen ... but our ears hear only the movie.. the thumping heart, the fast breathing, the panting and talking with panic....they must also be perfect.
then inside out 2 comes with one of the best panic/anxiety attacks in animated history
I recently had a very bad panic attack after my landlord and mother came both at me with severe accusations and more than aggressive behavior. It all came so suddenly that I tried to call my therapist but halfway through I couldn't speak, I started to hyperventilate, my doctor said to shut myself away from the source of the problem, drink water if I could and let her hear the source of the panic attack (my mother yelling like she had gone mad).
Panic and anxiety attacks are never the same and varies from person to person. Some shut down completely and don't say a thing, others explode and react wildly. To say that a panic attack in a story MUST be done a certain way is dismissive; the important thing is that it feels natural, works for the story and characters presented and aids the development. Admittedly, people over-hyping the panic attack in Puss in Boots did annoy me for a bit since it's just but ONE example and there are many ways one can happen. I still commend the filmmakers for being genuine in this and not saying they shouldn't get the praise they deserve, but that people need to understand that panic attacks can't be all the same since everyone feels differently.
And yes, Velma is the worst of them all because the attacks are easily dismissed after Velma laughs at Shaggy s genuine comments and then she gets kissed by Daphne. It never works that way.
I'm sorry.
True!! I have panic attacks but the scene in puss in boots didn’t quite resonated with me, the way the scene in the aviator with DiCaprio plays hit closer to home because (for me) the worst part of the attack is the dread of feeling it get closer, getting lightheaded and not knowing what to do but that’s the thing, there’s not one way of doing it right
I think people just got very excited with Puss in Boots because it came out at around the same time as Velma but it did the panic attack scene in a completely opposite way.
@@reggiel7313in another vein, my anxiety attacks feel like heart attacks. It becomes hard to breathe, my chest hurts, I get claustrophobic, etc. and this can go on for anywhere from a couple hours to literal days. The first time I had one I actually thought I was dying and my family responded to my pleas to go to the hospital with "sleep it off, you're okay" and I slept and was not okay and it got worse.
I haven't seen any media portray anxiety attacks the way I experience them. I think the sequence in the Last of Us is the closest, but it's still not quite there.
That is all to say that I agree with you. The experience is a little different for everyone and to try and cram it into a box is dismissive and a bit rude/uninformed.
I'd also like to note that our friendly OP (the guy who made the video) used anxiety attacks and panic attacks interchangeably though they're not the same thing. They're different all the way from the cause to the symptoms. I feel like this distinction needs to be made more often.
What you had was an anxiety attack, panic attacks have no obvious cause or origin or trigger, you can't feel them coming on before they hit, they just hit instantly.
I saw myself in puss when he started having that panic attack I almost bursted into tears because I KNOW how painful it can be and how everything seems to slow down and everything seems to become more intense and harder to handle. Anyone else who is struggling wether it be now or at given point in time, you are NOT alone and we can work together to make it a little less tough! Take care of yourselves and have a great day/night ❤❤❤❤
Bocchi the Rock is one example of social anxiety done right in a comedic scene.
For example, the protagonist, Bocchi, freaks out when asked about posting on social media.
The art style changes, which makes it funny, yet her friends are so supportive of her.
Loll i love bocchi its so funny and actually accurate too
As the show progresses, her friends know her so well that they can tell what goes on in her head, such as stating that she has deflated when confronted by some persistent beach-goers
I love Bocchi! Not a show I'd've watched without the friends who pushed me to watch it, but I'm glad they did.
What Bocchi the Rock does best is portraying the more abstract feelings as something physical.
Is Bocchi the Rock the anime with the pink hair girl who straight up glitches out
I once had a mini panic attack at work and my friend literally told me that I didn’t because it wasn’t the same as theirs. I looked up the symptoms and remember feeling all of them but because I didn’t lose complete control and feeling like I’m about to die, I didn’t have one apparently. It hurt so much. It made my mini (and first) panic attack feel so invalid and like nothing. Like I should’ve just shrugged it off and continued working. I physically couldn’t.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. If a “friend” tells you that just because your panic attack isn’t the same as theirs, then they are not your friend, in my opinion. It doesn’t matter how small it is or how severe the symptoms are; panic attacks are panic attacks and should *always* be taken seriously, no exceptions.
No one experiences panic attacks the same way. There are absolutely common symptoms of a panic attack but some experience a symptom mildly, some don't at all and some to an extreme level. Every experience can be as scary, debilitating, and painful as the next but all are still valid. No friend should minimise your feelings and suffering like that
Please tell me you dropped that friend.
I've learned over the years that when someone's having panic attacks I just either leave them alone to give them a moment to calm down-- or touch their shoulder with the 'hey, i'm right here, you're okay' in a low tone. I haven't had to do it in years since I became a shut-in.
At one point, I wanted to be a therapist. In another life I will be.
Dude, that's wild. Me and my family had no idea I was having a continuous panic attack for 2 weeks nonstop because it's symptoms were DIARRHEA and vomiting lmao. I went to the er and got bloodwork done, nothing came up, got more tests and was recommended I see a psych. Got diagnosed with panic attack disorder. Like the symptoms are the randomest things! I'd never even consider diarrhea as a mental health disorder symptom it's crazy. So don't think too much about that person judging you over a short list of symptoms some people experience. The list is almost endless.
Because sometimes people confuse fear with panic attacks. You didn't have panic attack. Just fear.
Ted Lasso shows his panic attacks VERY well
Especially with him apologizing to Rebecca for bothering her! 🥺
I am surprised he didn't bring it up. Maybe he hasn't seen it which in that case, he learns about a cool show from these comments
Really liked it here too! Love seeing how new media is portraying it so well 😊 sad to see the show come to and end!
I was hoping someone would mention The Sopranos (Tony's panic attacks)
Inside Out fact many don't know: It's partially inspired by a defunct Epcot attraction. You see, Epcot at Disney World in Florida used to have a pavilion called Wonders of Life. And within this pavilion was a show called Cranium Command where a little soldier named Buzzy had to pilot a twelve-year-old boy by making sure the parts of the body (represented by other humans) were all working together. Wonders of Life closed in 2007. Pete Docter, Inside Out's director, actually worked on the preshow of this attraction.
The fact that even a preschool show like Paw Patrol did it better than Velma is so hilarious. It’s torture having to ride it out and wait for the panic to gradually pass. The elevated heart rate & fast breathing, the fact that you suddenly feel completely separated from your surroundings, the simultaneous need for physical space and need for comfort. Velma does a lot of weird dunking on therapists & people who seek counseling in addition to the bad portrayal of panic attacks and it leaves a particularly bad taste. Like how in Rio 2, Roberto has PTSD and he has panic attacks in the film, he even goes as far to start screaming stuff (repeating what he has said during the traumatic event as he relived it) to himself and not being able to listen to anyone. And my biggest issue with that is that it’s mostly played up for laughs bc “haha smooth and suave character is actually a mess” and it does the stupid “snap out of it” trope.
Aw I remember Wonders of Life!!! Unfortunately I wasn’t born yet sadly but I would’ve loved to experience it. Old Epcot was nostalgic.
And yes I laughed at the fact PAW Patrol did better than Velma. Ngl I love the PAW Patrol movie, and I’m excited for the sequel.
I think I was too young to realize about the Rio movie, I hate it a bit now, I used to love it.
all hail the supreme leader! (seriously stop following me supreme leader)
I recently saw Inside Out 2…(do not press “Read More” if you haven’t seen the movie)
Near the ending, Anxiety pushes Riley too hard where she accidentally gets her friend Grace hurt, and Riley steps out of the game and Anxiety messes up the controls causing a giant orange tornado to swirl around her console, and Joy and the emotions come back up to yank out the orange sense of self that says “I’m not good enough!” which was made by Anxiety herself. They yanked it out, and a new sense of self forms by forming the good, bad, and everything between, but overall saying “I am a good person!”. Joy stops Anxiety and saves both Anxiety and Riley, which leads to Riley apologizing to her friends, and Bree and Grace forgive her, and they finish the game together. One of the most intense Pixar scenes I’ve ever seen in my life.
Ive had a few panic attacks, and I think it very much depends on the person. Not everyone experiences them the same, at least from my experience. I personally just completely freeze up (Im talking completely go rigid and can't even blink) Vision washes red in waves, and my mind basically completely dissolves into a pool of anxiety and depression.
As someone who has panic attacks multiple times per week, puss and boots did so so well, it really shows the reality of panic attacks, and the part where he tries calming down is how I feel when isolating myself so I can calm myself.
the Puss In Boots scene always makes me tear up, not because i know what panic attacks feel like, but because the movie gave me a good idea of it, and it's just nice to see a whole gem like this handle adult topics with so much maturity while still being suitable for a young audience too. it respects the viewer so much and that's such a rare thing especially in animation because it's often looked down upon as some sort of genre specifically for children, thus "not needing to be good".
0:29 I super appreciate you spotlighting Bo because hearing about how the closer of Make Happy came about and what it meant to him was so heavy. Even if he walked back some of his comments about his feelings towards the audience (which was good and healthy) the fact that he went through that so many nights while doing something he once did as a joyful passion is heartbreaking.
I love how puss shows that even if the general panic attack is "over", you still cant escape it. Even afterwards you still feel the effect that it has on your body and mind
The portrayal of anxiety in puss in boots is genuinely so accurate, the sort of swirling fuzzy vision, the mix of slow breathing and quick breathing, also I REALLY love the detail of when Perrito places his head on Puss' chest / torso, deep pressure therapy is often something therapy and service dogs are taught to do to reduce panic, I really really like that detail.
inside out 2 just showed another amazing example
Ik the time the vid was made inside out two wasn’t out yet,but the inside out 2 portrayal was awesome. It took so many interviews. The really thought about the realism.
I love your channel, please never change please never go corporate I sometimes compare your channel to nerdstalgic I feel like they're in the same vein and nerdstalgic went from being this homegrown feeling to cookie cutter corporate
You are so real and genuine and I hope you never lose the heart that comes through in every episode!
I give this one
11 monkeys outta 7 kangaroos
I think Nerdstalgic is ok but yeah it's definitely a noticeable step down from a channel like this in terms of quality because of its assembly-line approach to making videos
I feel there is a bit of a difference between a panic attack and an anxiety attack.
Panic attacks come out of nowhere while anxiety attacks are in response to something
Yeah. I agree.
As someone who has SEVERE panic disorder, I was really surprised at how well Puss in Boots represented panic attacks. The beginning of his panic attack in particular (shown at 0:00) is very accurate to how I experience them.
I think a lot of the portrayals of panic attacks and anxiety focus on showing fear, when in reality a panic attack is more like an intense, prolonged sense of dread. I’ve described it to people as being like if that moment of “oh shit” when you miss a step going down the stairs was stretched out to last 10-30 minutes. I think the combination of everything slowing wayyy down, Puss’s hair standing on end, the ominous whistle, and the way he freezes really captures that feeling.
I also appreciate that it happens literally in the middle of a fight. Panic attacks come out of nowhere, and usually not when it’s convenient. Instead of having him panic at a time that would fit better in the plot, they accurately showed how panic attacks kind of force stop on everything else.
I’ve had a LOT of opportunities to observe my own panic attacks and understand how they work, and i can confidently say I'm not ambitious enough to try representing one in film even though it’s a topic I have extensive personal experience with. It’s such an intense, subjective experience and there are so many moving parts that it’s hard to understand it myself, let alone explain it to someone on the outside. For that reason I find successful portrayals of panic attacks ESPECIALLY impressive.
Bojack horseman did an amazing job at tackling a panic/anxiety attack and not only this but how to help someone calm down
Looked for this comment. I completely agree.
something that made puss in boots 2's panic attack sequence wasn't the hair or the running or the heavy breathing, it was the heart beat for me. when I have panic attacks, I constantly hear my heart beat and not much else in my ears because when we were younger, that's what i would hear to calm me down, my mother's steady heart beat.
Hank's panic attack/PTSD/flashbacks are only a meme due to the popularity of the series. I think it did a great job showing a more aggressive attack, shooting it like he's having a heart attack, and his general confusion as to what is even happening. It's also a huge turning point in his character. He starts off as some obnoxious alpha male constantly cracking vaguely racist jokes with his shitty co-workers, then he encounters even worse cop and endures trauma and really ends up humbled to the audience. It really sets him up to become the eventual moral centre of the story. It's not as though panic attacks have some duty to always be something subdued. Sometimes panic is just panic.
Yes! Thank you, I thought I was alone feeling that jab was a little unwarranted lol. Even though I'm not diminishing Puss in Boots depiction, it's not really close to what I experience when I get panic attacks: Hank feeling that he's physically unwell is a lot closer to home.
I'm currently in progress of developing a VR horror game based around someone who strugles with social anxiety. Thanks for the break-down of this, I was having trouble coming up with a way to truly show a panic attack, although this is from the third-person perspective I'm sure some of it can translate well into the first-person
That sounds like such an interesting concept! Best of luck with your game.
@@avacadotoast5571 thanks, I really hope it works out
How's the game going?
@@spaghettiisyummy.3623 wow, thanks for asking. I've decided that game was a little complex to be my first ever game, so I've pivoted to a digital version of single player betrayal at house on the hill. But I still have this game in mind, and I'm learning more and more on how to get to my goal.
When I had my first panic attack, I ran out of the room at work, sat on the ground, and held my legs slowly rocking back and forth. I had tears streaming down my face, I was hyperventilating, and staring into nothing. It took a bit for me to even realize that my sisters were there, talking to me and patting my knee. I was just staring out repeating "don't yell at me, don't yell at me, please." It was scary. If it was scary for me, I couldn't imagine how my coworkers and sisters felt seeing me in that state.
I’m known to have a panic attack every once in a while, so while I was rewatching Puss’ scene I almost had one myself out of pure empathy. The scene felt so real even though it’s an animated cat.
Speaking of Inside Out, I think it’s sequel did a good job portraying a panic attack too
That scene in Puss in Boots: The Last Wish and Perrito's response literally made me cry
Sensory overload is such a huge problem when it comes down to anxiety. I remember the last time I had a panic attack, I was in my house alone, and My house is very quiet, but the AC was blowing and all my brain could do was focus on how loud the air was. It caused me to start uncontrollably shaking and my heart pounded so hard I thought I was dying. I just sat in the same place for almost 20 minutes just doing breathing exercises. The entire time I had this looming sense of dread that came out of no where, that usually doesn’t leave even after you calm yourself down. Puss in Boots perfectly articulates that sense of dying you get when your dealing with a panic attack and the sense of looming dread and isolation that you get.
For me, Perks of Being a Wallflower has one of the best scenes showcasing panic attacks. It’s scarily accurate
YES SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONS IT. We watched the movie in class and I was impressed how well they did it
As someone who used to have panic attacks (one of them causing me to take off running aimlessly into the woods at night) this scene in Puss perfectly encapsulated the result of your fight or flight mode, specifically the flight part. This scene depicts the feeling of fear so primal that you have no choice but to take off running. Where any shadow can be mistaken for a threat. Where your body is so pumped with adrenaline, you dont care if your body trips or falls, you don't register your surroundings even as you stumble. Your body keeps moving. Both mind and body keep scrambling with the sole goal of escaping whatever caused you to feel so scared.
And then finally the crash of exhaustion but your body still trying keep the adrenaline going.
Was hoping Ted Lasso would make an appearance in this video. I thought they did a pretty good job with this topic.
As someone who has panic attacks, other good ones ive seen in film are riley in inside out 2, and charlie from the perks of being a wallflower
Ha, little did we know that Anxiety would be a new thing in Inside Out 2, with a panic attack and everything.
I’m diagnosed with panic disorder, and when I was in high school, it got to the point where I was having panic attacks daily and it got so bad to the point where I almost took my own life. So i’ve really been through it, and I can definitely confirm that Puss in Boots does an amazing job portraying what it feels like
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is one of the best movies I've seen in the last 10-some years.
The group of people who made it absolutely pretty much nailed everything in the movie.
Haven't seen a near-perfect movie since The 5th Element.
I know this is a year old but I wanna say Riley’s panic attack in Inside Out 2 was a very good portrayal of one as well!
kids can enjoy good writing too… like they’d enjoy everything, but it is real special when you grow up and find that something you are nostalgic for holds up really well. This is going to be one of those movies for people.
When I watched Last Wish the first time, seeing the portrayal of Puss's anxiety and seeing Perrito acting like how a real-life therapy dog would really hit a personal chord. I have anxiety myself, and have even thought about a therapy dog, and it just felt so raw and genuine and personal. Very few scenes have struck me in such a way before. It almost feels comforting to see it portrayed so genuinely and to see Perrito make good on his therapy dog dream. I barely even have the words for it, honestly. I had to pause the movie for a minute after that scene.
Your videos are so great. Love 'em!
Had to rewatch the Breaking Bad panic attack scenes and especially the elevator one striked me at how well and real it felt. It's not a long one but it captures that sudden attack that comes from nowhere and disappears twice as fast and then you just go with your friends acting as though nothing had happened.
Great to see panic attacks and anxiety presented in a realistic fashion. I used to get anxiety attacks pretty often and I never let anyone know about them.
Honestly watching this now i think that anxiety from inside out was both a good character and a bad one. the anxiety attack was cool because it symbolizes how it feels to have a panic attack in your mind while on the outside riley's reaction was pretty accurate (speaking from experience) since she is young and that was her first panic attack, yet at the same time the fact that anxiety herself is an emotion and the way that she is advertised doesn't show the true nature of how horrible anxiety can be since disney's way of portraying it seems to be that anxiety is something everyone feels when it isnt. You can argue for both sides but personally, i would have rather had another character instead of her because it just seems like shes replacing fear and fear happens to be my favorite character.
Indie dev here! I’m trying to portray my character having a panic attack on screen during a cutscene, thanks for this great resource!
YOOOOO same! Good luck on your project! :D
Without even actually watching the series, I can already tell that what Velma is really having is not a panic/anxiety attack, rather a psychotic episode
I have general anxiety disorder, and i have panic attacks when my anxiety gets too high. I really appreciated Puss in Boots' depiction of a panic attack. I understood how he was feeling in that scene and it just really resonated with me.
Bro predicted inside out 2
I literally cried so much watching puss in boots, because (1) storyline and (2) how relatable and accurately they portrayed anxiety and other emotions.
I think another good representation of a panic attack is in shadow and bone s2 when Kaz has one in the stadwatch carriage because it shows that he is freaking out but trying not to let others know. It's really subtle at first and the other people around him don't notice something is off until he actually almost throws up. Showing kaz swallowing a lot and trying to not make any faces really depicts accurately what it is like to try your best to not outwardly panic and stop it before it gets really bad. I feel like its a good representation of a panic attack in someone who gets them enough to know what is happening.
What a great depiction. My earliest experience with panic attacks before I experienced them, was Jessie in Toy Story 2. "I can't do storage again!" I could feel her desperation and the pain it caused her, the lack of control. Some directors feel the need to dumb things down TOO MUCH for kids, or make it lighthearted so the child doesn't have to sit in yucky emotions. Children experience anxiety, disordered or not. Having these scenes depicted properly is an opportunity to teach coping mechanisms, give them the language, to show that mental anguish doesn't exclude you from performing heroic acts. Recognizing emotion is something most of us learn as infants, so let scary be scary and guide them into their next milestone of regulating those emotions.
I remember seeing that. I felt bad for Jessie. She’s my favorite Toy Story character. Seeing her panic attacks in the Halloween special where they got stuck at the motel, Jessie’s POV of claustrophobia and the fear in her eyes really scared me, same for Woody’s nightmare in Toy Story 2 and the incinerator in Toy Story 3.
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Inside Out 2 i feel did amazing.
Especially since Riley didn't have anyone to help her get through it.
When i saw the movie i simply could relate to that scene, how your heart beat runs, you get anxious, you start thinking incoherently, is a visual experience that i saw and it was beautiful. The whole movie, in a visual way, is a blessing to your eyes.
Well inside out 2 just nailed it
I'm so glad you mentioned that panic attacks can be subtle on the outside. I've got an anxiety disorder and I've had panic attacks that were so hard for anyone around me to notice because most of my symptoms were internal. People who don't have anxiety don't always understand that you can't always see when someone is panicking. It can look subtle on the outside when it's anything but subtle on the inside.
I love the puss in boots panic attack scene so flipping much and I honestly have no idea why 😭
I’ve watched it multiple times lmao
As someone with a lot of anxiety problems, including agoraphobia, i cried when Peurito(sorry if i misspelled) set his head on Puss. Reminded me when a pyschology class had a therapy dog in and some of us sat down next to him and he instantly set his head on my lap. His handler asked if i was okay, and i was anxious from being triggered in the class earlier and thought of leaving if i didnt already know the dogs would be there and thought seeing them would be enough to help me calm down, and him setting his head on me and petting him definitely helped. That scene reminded me so much of that moment it made me happy to see.
For me it was how he was lost in himself and the hyperventilating with no real external danger around. I think moving to that objective view from Perrito grounded the scene, whereas other depictions that remain with the subjective camera work don’t make it as clear there’s no real external danger, it’s all internal.
another amazing repersentation of a panick attack is in gumball (somehow) but instead of showing how it feels, it shows people how to react by instead of trying to "snap them out of it", you actually just have to be with them in the moment, show them its gonna b okay. its amazing that it came from such a crazy show that normally tries to make everything exaggerated :D
Of the examples you used, I’ve only seen The Last of Us and Iron Man 3, both of which had pretty good panic attack depictions. I don’t have them often but I get random panic attacks (maybe 2 a year) and mine cause my hands and arms to go numb and draw up, among other things. Panic attacks are one of the most indescribable sensations I’ve ever encountered, so it’s incredible when media depicts one in a meaningful and understandable way. Puss in Boots seems as if it did a good job.
The thing with Puss in Boots is that, throughout the attack, it draws you back to reality. As someone with an anxiety disorder who suffers from singularity triggers like Puss does, watching this scene genuinely gave me flashbacks to prior attacks I had been through. It shows Puss's mind trying to pull him into the attack and his logic trying to pull him away, as we see with the branches being the wolf but then quickly showing they were only ever trees and the wolf statue that his mind distorts into being Death, but when he sees it again after passing the tree he sees what it truly is. The camera switch continuity error is, to me at least, supposed to portray the sense of lost memories when having a panic attack. It is clear that the people who made the film had advisors who have had experience with these kind of things, as often I find myself almost blacking out during my attacks and so one moment I'll be doing one things and then I snap into reality where I'm doing something else. It also displays the use of support animals such as the dog, which is very realistic and the way he calms down is incredibly natural, and not sudden. On the other hand, we have Velma. Everything is a shitty metaphor and the tones are all wrong. It's more like an Artaud PTSD piece, and less like an attempt at a serious panic attack. She also just kind of stops having a panic attack, which isn't how they work, and she seems to be phasing in and out of it at times which, again, isn't what a panic attack is like. It's as though the creators watched an A-Level Drama piece about stress and thought: "This. This is what it's like. This is what we need. Hyperventilation, hallucinations and comic relief. That's not a panic attack. That's asthma, a bucketload of LSD, and that one high friend jumping off a roof into a pool that they forgot to take the cover off.