Victron say in the manual that is very important make absorption. With real cycling use, a minimum of 6-8 hours per month. Their standar lithium program is 2nhiurs absorption every charge
Another thing about victron at not only, is totally clear: if discharge a lithium battery until BMS shut down, and you go away, and the last 1% of charge is drained, lithium cells Will be irreversible damaged. . and also the Deep of discharge affect a lot battery life on lithium batteries. If you drain all days 95%, last a lot less than you discharge 30%.=this is for all batteries of the world
Thank you so much for always giving wonderful analysis. However, most lithium batteries in Nigeria come with secondary cells(used) this is one secret most people don’t know about. The 10-15years life span won’t actually reach that time. I have the opportunities of meeting and having behind the scene discussions with more than 3 directors of lithium battery manufacturers and they explained that to me. I believe tubular batteries do a lot too, for me, the environmental friendly and quick charge are just my preferences for lithium battery. God bless you Mr. Ikenna
Good morning Sir , I have 200h lithium battery (2) with 350kva inverter. But it seems the inverter is draining my battery because if by afternoon is fully charged at 27.2v by night it goes down to 24.5v that is without me using it. And by the time the battery capacity gets to 23.3v or at lowest level 22v I won't be able to use it again.. pls I need help ..
Pls respond.... Can someone increase lithium battery by adding new one to the existing of to increase the kwh in parallel.. Will it work fine?.. Cos i is not like that in tubular battery.. Thanks
@ okay thank you sir. one more thing please, I upgraded to a 5kwh lithium battery and when every my battery charges full I get the “battery voltage too high” error code on both my charge controller and inverter. Depending on the source I am charging with. Please is there a way I can stop this ? I am using felicity 5kwh 24v lithium battery, 3.5kva felicity inverter and 60A felicity charge controller
I replaced a 12v 9ah sealed lead acid battery in my rechargeable fan with a 11.1v 8ah lithium battery and the fan brought out smoke. I did same with 11.1v 18ah lithium with same result. What happened?
I believe 98% who watched this would never have anything too do with tubular batteries anymore 😂❤ I use lithium and its actually 10000% maintenance free ❤
What do you have to say about prismatic cells? It's the primary part of Lithium battery where individual cells can have like 3.2v 200ah for example. What's your opinion on building your power bank out of prismatic cells and buying already setup Lithium battery unit?
Hello please answer Questions please: 1.)How many 340watts halfcut solar panel is enough for 5kva lithium battery? 2.)i dont really understand how it is measured but are 4 tubular 220amps 12v batteries equal to 1 5kva 48v lithium battery or is the lithium more powerful compared to it? Please respond boss i would really appreciate it
It's usually a rare occurrence caused by thermal heat produced by Lithium battery as it charges, potentially effective with a BMS failure, cos BMS is supposed to cut off the charges when the heat spirals out of control
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 did u not mention it in your video. I think u don't personally like tubular batteries. Because u did not mention many advantages of tubular batteries. I am sure if u compare tubular batteries with lead acid u will still say lead acid is better
Very insightful. I was skeptical about installing solar in my house because I visit once or twice a year. What about the solar panels, do they get damaged when they are not being used over a long time. What is the best way to protect the solar panels when they are not going to be used over an extended period.
how about charging them, tubular batteries goes well with the panels, compare to lithium batteries. or can you break it down lets me understand, thank you
In response to 8:08. In the days of less sunshine. Can we connect solar panels directly to the battery and charge at higher voltage, while carefully monitoring the battery voltage, not to exceed its limit
How good are the lithium iron phosphate batteries that has no Battery management system? They look like Lead acid SMF batteries. Are they really lithium batteries or a 419 strategy in the market? Thank you.
Thank you very much for the video. If a tubular battery has a DOD of 50% and it's capacity is 2500Wh. Is it right to say that the maximum back up power of the battery is 1250Wh? If yes what happens to the remaining power in the battery?
Thanks for your comment, a flooded lead acid /Tubular battery only has a recommended availability of 50 percent available The remaining 50 percent is still there but not advisable to use in other not to hurt the battery.
It's a good thing, it means the battery will charge a lot faster. Due to the chemical composition of the battery it does not require all stages of charging
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 Sir I did a service on my turbular 250amp battery so I thought the water could be use but it's all dark and I had to throw it away. Now I was told I need electrolyte water first before i add my distilled water.
Base on DoD, is it that for the tubular battery I can't drain more than 50% or it's adviceable not to drain more than 50%?? These are two different statements and I'm confused which of the statement is actually correct. Can't or don't
Great video; kudos to you. I beg to differ slightly on the Depth of Discharge of Tubular batteries. The DoD for Tubular batteries is 80%, not 50%. 50% DoD is meant for car batteries. Besides, the DoD is not determined by the battery manufacturers; it is determined by the inverter manufacturers; that is why at 11.5V, your inverter will start beeping and then stop supplying power.
When comparing batteries you should always look at the voltage, from this point of view tubular batteries are more reliable if peged at thesame voltage as a lithium battery.
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 each room with a television 📺, fridge, fans, bathroom 🛀 and heaters, family 👪 sized laundry and lots more energy ⚡ demanding equipment.
Bro just answered all questions i had to make a decision of which type of battery to go for.... Moreover this video feels more like "tell me lithium battery is a better option within telling me lithium battery is a better option" 😂
Questions please: 1.)How many 340watts halfcut solar panel is enough for 5kva lithium battery? 2.)i dont really understand how it is measured but are 4 tubular 220amps 12v batteries equal to 1 5kva 48v lithium battery or is the lithium more powerful compared to it? Please respond boss i would really appreciate it
If you want to even make the lifespan of the Battery to go higher than 16years, simply Pulse-Dischatge it into High Capacitance Capacitor Bank and link your Inverter from there. This is suitable for only Split system or Non-Hybrid system.
Your calculation of lithium being more expensive is flawed because it precludes long term cost consideration. You’re not specific about your lithium technologies. Lifepo4 has as much lifecycles or even more than the 6000 counts you mentioned. On the other hand you can’t get more than 1000 counts from liion
What he's supposed to say that IT HAS AN INITIAL HIGH COST. A cost that would be offset by both performance and longevity of the lithium. These days it just doesn't make sense to buy any lead acid battery as cheaper lifepo4 is out there with very competitive pricing.
Point of correction. Turbular battery dod is 80% agm/smf are 50 Turbular are slow to charge but consume less electricity during chrg while lifepo4 are fast but consume much of electricity.
Going green my big toe. The batteries are in no way a form of going green plus the silicon used to make the panels. I love solar btw but it is not completely green.
Very interesting keep it up. Thanks for the info.
This video has been helpful. I need more on installation and panel calculation
Nice update,,,,
Thanks for the update, please also lecture us on the difference between the PWM and MPPT charge controller.
Nice update on my tech knowledge
@@WilliamsReact Cool
Thanks sir this has been helpful
Very informative lecture you got here brother.
Just wanna know, outside being cheaper, does solar tubular batteries have any advantages?
Ur vidoes are always classic
Thanks Buddy!!
i wish you 100k subscribers soon! Nice content
@@oreandsconcepts Amen Thank you so much for the kind wishes.
Please what better most between solar inverter set up with tubular battery and sopar generator like bluetti thats uses lp04 battrry ?
Learnt alot today. Looking forward to buying a lithium battery wen I'm able to afford it.
If you have the cash go for it
Victron say in the manual that is very important make absorption. With real cycling use, a minimum of 6-8 hours per month. Their standar lithium program is 2nhiurs absorption every charge
Another thing about victron at not only, is totally clear: if discharge a lithium battery until BMS shut down, and you go away, and the last 1% of charge is drained, lithium cells Will be irreversible damaged. . and also the Deep of discharge affect a lot battery life on lithium batteries. If you drain all days 95%, last a lot less than you discharge 30%.=this is for all batteries of the world
What's the difference between the transformer base inverter and hybrid inverter?
Planning on installing solar in my house, your videos have been so helpful man!
Glad you found the videos useful
Thanks Sir
Thanks for the lecture
an excellent video indeed, pls wher can i get Extenal bms for the tubular batteries 😊?
Thank you so much for always giving wonderful analysis. However, most lithium batteries in Nigeria come with secondary cells(used) this is one secret most people don’t know about. The 10-15years life span won’t actually reach that time. I have the opportunities of meeting and having behind the scene discussions with more than 3 directors of lithium battery manufacturers and they explained that to me. I believe tubular batteries do a lot too, for me, the environmental friendly and quick charge are just my preferences for lithium battery.
God bless you Mr. Ikenna
You are very welcome
😳😳 and me I've romanticizing getting lithium battery when my tubular batteries reach of end of life 🤦🏾♂️. How does one now get fresh lithium cells?
@@UdegbunamChuks😅
Thanks for this information, definitely have to go for the lithium battery despite the price
Where can one get a quality 2.5kwh lithium iron phosphate battery
Good morning Sir , I have 200h lithium battery (2) with 350kva inverter. But it seems the inverter is draining my battery because if by afternoon is fully charged at 27.2v by night it goes down to 24.5v that is without me using it. And by the time the battery capacity gets to 23.3v or at lowest level 22v I won't be able to use it again.. pls I need help ..
Pls respond.... Can someone increase lithium battery by adding new one to the existing of to increase the kwh in parallel.. Will it work fine?.. Cos i is not like that in tubular battery.. Thanks
Yes
What about the safety aspect? We are told that Lithium batteries are more likely to explode and fire extinguishers won't quench Lithium fire.
How many solar panels do i need to charge a 200 ah lithum battery?
Depends on the capacity of your inverter.
Please talk more on the charging cycle
Thank you so much. This is so informative.
Glad it was helpful
I'm watching you from Liberia thanks.
Wow That us so cool Buddy, How is Liberia.
Please, can 4 tubular batteries last more than one 5kwh lithium battery?
In terms of daily usage
@@osalumesematthew4989 depends on the discharge of the Tubular
@ okay thank you sir. one more thing please, I upgraded to a 5kwh lithium battery and when every my battery charges full I get the “battery voltage too high” error code on both my charge controller and inverter. Depending on the source I am charging with. Please is there a way I can stop this ?
I am using felicity 5kwh 24v lithium battery, 3.5kva felicity inverter and 60A felicity charge controller
Thanks 🙏🏻 so much i learn a lot
I replaced a 12v 9ah sealed lead acid battery in my rechargeable fan with a 11.1v 8ah lithium battery and the fan brought out smoke. I did same with 11.1v 18ah lithium with same result. What happened?
Which is the best lithium batter company to go with...and is 5kw lithium batter good to go for 2 bedroom
Does the two room have ac that you will be powering?
I believe 98% who watched this would never have anything too do with tubular batteries anymore 😂❤
I use lithium and its actually 10000% maintenance free ❤
Very informative video. Pls can you also make video on voltage specifications? Like when to use 12v, 24v, 48v etc
Thanks for your comments, will do
What do you have to say about prismatic cells?
It's the primary part of Lithium battery where individual cells can have like 3.2v 200ah for example. What's your opinion on building your power bank out of prismatic cells and buying already setup Lithium battery unit?
Hello please answer
Questions please:
1.)How many 340watts halfcut solar panel is enough for 5kva lithium battery?
2.)i dont really understand how it is measured but are 4 tubular 220amps 12v batteries equal to 1 5kva 48v lithium battery or is the lithium more powerful compared to it?
Please respond boss i would really appreciate it
Hello Sir, there is a tendency of Solar Lithium batteries catching fire and burning houses. What cause might be contributing to these fires?
It's usually a rare occurrence caused by thermal heat produced by Lithium battery as it charges, potentially effective with a BMS failure, cos BMS is supposed to cut off the charges when the heat spirals out of control
Quite educative! Please can you do a comparison between SMF battery and tubular battery? To cover the low-income segment of the chain.
@@yusufhaliluzakari Thank you Yusuff for your comment will definitely make a video on that.
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 did u not mention it in your video. I think u don't personally like tubular batteries. Because u did not mention many advantages of tubular batteries.
I am sure if u compare tubular batteries with lead acid u will still say lead acid is better
@@PreciousNoah-n9p I am very confused here because a Tubular battery is a Lead acid Battery.
Can You explain more what you actually mean.
I was planning on going for the sunking home 8000 but i was not very sure about the battery capacity do you have an alternative
And the warranty on the sinking lithium battry was just 3 year instead of 10 year by other companies
Do you Mean Sun King
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 yes sir sunking
Very insightful. I was skeptical about installing solar in my house because I visit once or twice a year. What about the solar panels, do they get damaged when they are not being used over a long time. What is the best way to protect the solar panels when they are not going to be used over an extended period.
Solar panel needs no maintenance.
@@CuepointStan You do nothing, Solar Panel needs no maintenance.
Informative...
I always recommend lithium ion batteries for my clients.
Good choice , but make sure you recommend the good ones.
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 Alright...thank you sir...
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 Can you recommend the good ones?
how about charging them, tubular batteries goes well with the panels, compare to lithium batteries. or can you break it down lets me understand, thank you
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 Kindly recommend lithium battery brands for me.
Very interesting to know about this, but I have a question to ask sir
Go ahead Sir
100mah lithium battery vs 200mah tubular battery which would give longer backup
In response to 8:08. In the days of less sunshine. Can we connect solar panels directly to the battery and charge at higher voltage, while carefully monitoring the battery voltage, not to exceed its limit
That should never happen , you will instantly damage your battery because you will be charging it at a very high voltage.
Hi sir good day,
Am having problems with my tubular battery
The company name is Jupiter battery
What might the issue be
Nice one bro thanks....but pls like how much is this lithium battery 220 Ahm 16:01
Not sure what it sells for now
How good are the lithium iron phosphate batteries that has no Battery management system? They look like Lead acid SMF batteries. Are they really lithium batteries or a 419 strategy in the market? Thank you.
Every good Lithium battery should have a management system, it's very essential to the performance, efficiency and Longevity of the battery
So, are you saying those batteries are a scam.
Secondly, I have seen some locally assembled lithium Iron batteries, are they safe to use?
Thank you very much for the video. If a tubular battery has a DOD of 50% and it's capacity is 2500Wh. Is it right to say that the maximum back up power of the battery is 1250Wh? If yes what happens to the remaining power in the battery?
Thanks for your comment, a flooded lead acid /Tubular battery only has a recommended availability of 50 percent available The remaining 50 percent is still there but not advisable to use in other not to hurt the battery.
Thank you Boss
What are the prices like with both batteries?
Lithium is more Expensive
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 How much in today's market?
Yes, but the question is, what are the prices currently?
i love this Ikenna... i want to ask, the two stage charging for lithium,is that an advantage compared to the 4 stage charging of tubular?
It's a good thing, it means the battery will charge a lot faster. Due to the chemical composition of the battery it does not require all stages of charging
Sir i have an important question to ask.
Please go ahead
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 Sir I did a service on my turbular 250amp battery so I thought the water could be use but it's all dark and I had to throw it away. Now I was told I need electrolyte water first before i add my distilled water.
Why do people usually use different brands of inverters in big scale installations? 🤷🏾♂️
You didn't tell us the size of the tubular battery you're comparing??
Base on DoD, is it that for the tubular battery I can't drain more than 50% or it's adviceable not to drain more than 50%?? These are two different statements and I'm confused which of the statement is actually correct. Can't or don't
@@sirxbit advised not to but you can, but that will be putting a strain on the battery and eventually reducing the Lifespan
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 Alright...Thank you
Great video; kudos to you.
I beg to differ slightly on the Depth of Discharge of Tubular batteries.
The DoD for Tubular batteries is 80%, not 50%.
50% DoD is meant for car batteries.
Besides, the DoD is not determined by the battery manufacturers; it is determined by the inverter manufacturers; that is why at 11.5V, your inverter will start beeping and then stop supplying power.
Yes
Some said 70% dod
Lots of truths in this video. Weldone
@@ConfyScenty Thank u
When comparing batteries you should always look at the voltage, from this point of view tubular batteries are more reliable if peged at thesame voltage as a lithium battery.
How exactly can you explain further what you mean.
Explain further
What's the amount of lithium battery 🔋 required to power a 20 room building 🏢 24hrs, 365 Days? 🙄
You do not determine battery sizing from the number of rooms rather by energy needs
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 each room with a television 📺, fridge, fans, bathroom 🛀 and heaters, family 👪 sized laundry and lots more energy ⚡ demanding equipment.
@@dukeojogu 20
@@d.bcooper2271 ok
@@d.bcooper2271😂😂😂
Bro just answered all questions i had to make a decision of which type of battery to go for....
Moreover this video feels more like "tell me lithium battery is a better option within telling me lithium battery is a better option" 😂
Questions please:
1.)How many 340watts halfcut solar panel is enough for 5kva lithium battery?
2.)i dont really understand how it is measured but are 4 tubular 220amps 12v batteries equal to 1 5kva 48v lithium battery or is the lithium more powerful compared to it?
Please respond boss i would really appreciate it
If you want to even make the lifespan of the Battery to go higher than 16years, simply Pulse-Dischatge it into High Capacitance Capacitor Bank and link your Inverter from there. This is suitable for only Split system or Non-Hybrid system.
Can You please explain this further in full details
Your calculation of lithium being more expensive is flawed because it precludes long term cost consideration. You’re not specific about your lithium technologies. Lifepo4 has as much lifecycles or even more than the 6000 counts you mentioned. On the other hand you can’t get more than 1000 counts from liion
What he's supposed to say that IT HAS AN INITIAL HIGH COST. A cost that would be offset by both performance and longevity of the lithium. These days it just doesn't make sense to buy any lead acid battery as cheaper lifepo4 is out there with very competitive pricing.
This is a bad news for me, I've just gotten a 220AH tubular battery. For a customer believing I've done him a favour 😭😭😭
Tubular battery is really not bad, if well cared for you can extend the lifespan. Always ensure its, not undersized
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Me too, I just bought one for me thinking I got the better option 😭😭😭😭
Any of the batteries are good Good Bro don't feel bad.@@maazi_Ikenna
The sulphate during vacation and the hydrogen gas issue makes AGM even better than tubular 12:43
@@splendid9529 very correct
Point of correction.
Turbular battery dod is 80% agm/smf are 50
Turbular are slow to charge but consume less electricity during chrg while lifepo4 are fast but consume much of electricity.
You have already been told what the DOD should be but you can decide to push your to 100 percent the choice is yours.
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056this is not a good response
GET ON WITH IT!
Did
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 it took long enough! Give us da info
Трубчатая это еще пожаробезопасность !
5:6
Going green my big toe. The batteries are in no way a form of going green plus the silicon used to make the panels. I love solar btw but it is not completely green.
@@AK2I47 A lot better than Fossil fuel and Nuclear plants don't you think?
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 150% better, it's just that solar is not completely green.
Oh my God. Let's just ban other batteries 😢
Thats not a good idea Lol
You sre about as helpful as a bad toothache.
Nice update,,,,