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What If Man City Are Guilty? | The Invincible Podcast
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Actually preferred this episode - no offence to Lee, but giving Julian more time to give his balanced views and no-one ganging up on him was refreshing. Always enjoy his opinions
I am liking Julian as well. He is quite unbiased
Totally agree, great chat this
Man City: We are the victims here!😭😭😭😭😭
Everton and Forest: 🫥🫥🫥🫥🫥
Victim mentality like the monsters with them small hats
Everton and Forest admitted guilt!
▪︎Liverpool caught Hacking
▪︎Everton admit to FFP Cheating
▪︎City found Not Guilty in Court
▪︎Kick out - City or Liverpool,Everton?😂
Kevin Campbell, get well soon. God bless you young man get well soon and back on the screens and doing what you know best talking football God bless.
I'm praying Kevin Campbell gets well soon man i hope he comes out of this soon what a lovely guy 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼♥️
How can you look at what Arsenal have done as a negative? We stuck within the rules and have prospered while following the rules. So, we're in a position of our own making, a position that we have earned. I've been watching Arsenal for almost 50 years... as fans we have had to go through some awful times to get where we deserve to be. Only for clubs like city bending all those rules to rob, not just us, but every other team in the PL of any chance of success... If they win this case, the sport is dead. End of...
Ty alt account
- VAR is here to stay
- What are the chances of City being cleared of all the 115 charges?
- Great podcast, great input by Julian
City implementing the principles of dodgeball dodge dip duck dive & dodge 😂
i like Julian, glad his back, thoughtful, business minded, likes free things like all of care to admit, and funny personality. he should have another show as well...
You are joking...right? 😏
Hates kids
@@lebowski6061 Im sure there is something you dont like. Get over it!
@@lombechalungumana5438 just a joke bro chill
If Saka dived to get a penalty and got caught, he'd be penalised.
In earlier news lance Armstrong is about to sue the tour de France for not allowing performance enhancing drugs 😁
It's not really the same as owners putting money into their clubs... like they've been doing for decades.
@@BurnCKCThey didn't do it within the confines of the law,if found guilty they have to be punished
Julian is the most learned and intelligent person in AFTV, with well-balanced opinions.
It seems like it you know it's bad news if Pep(rumor is he wants to want to try international management),Alvarez and De Buryne want to leave.
Julian is some guy man 😂
What did he mean when he said the way he travels so miseed the flight?? Does he stand on the runway hitch hiking or something?? 😂😂
im guessing he flies standby so that its cheaper, but if the flight is full then people on the standby list don’t get on
its not a "if". city is gulity and all titles should be stripped. do you think they would even have half of the squad they have now if they have "played" fairly??? no... would they win 4 titles in a row??? no... there is a reason why wenger sold our best players for years..
What's the evidence?
@@russellward4624 name me on other club who can afford to pay 50-60 mil for a player and bench him if he doesnt work or sell him for a 20mil?
@@arsenallondon4805Arsenal, united, Liverpool.
@@robertmclellan3658 mb United but Liverpool and Arsenal ? Ofc both had fail buys but they can not afford it every window like city did for over 10 years
@@arsenallondon4805give me the list of players that city got for 60 million and benched?
The man doesn't pay for his flights? Don Julian 🤣
get well soon kev
Julian is the most intelligent arsenal fan ever,very intelligent man
Julian was really good this episode
Julian makes the show! Simple
Bro, what are you smoking?!?! Guy has ruined every AFTV thing he’s on!
I just want to voice my appreciation to Arteta, Edu and the Kroenkes…. We are a powerhouse once again and I for one realise how grateful we should be 🔴🔴🔴🔴
The rules inside a sporting competition have to be unique, to create sporting context. Or are City trying to argue that Doku's high foot stamp on Alexis is actually assault and contrary to the rules of the land? No they are not.
i love this show
and julian
Excellent Pod as always! 👍🏼
Enthralling discussion on MC charges, Bravo gents. Julian, I want to preface this next comment by telling you I love the passion in your vids. I also love the fact that you wanted to see the MC charges from different views than your own. THAT IS A BRILLIANT VIRTUE. BUT...after you made some terrific points about MC, Robbie laid down cold hard and undoubtable facts to counter some of your view. Especially about MC now saying the PL rules they signed up for are unfair. That is desperation by MC. Its dispicable! But faced with what Robbie said, you just doubled down again to many of the points you made that Robbie shot down. The only chance MC have are the owners claiming discrimination against the PL. Not because its true! But because the times we live in (where you can sometimes just claim you are a victim for no reason) give MC a half chance. Another virtue Julian is to admit you are wrong.
Ngl first time this brother hasn’t been annoying
Really calm guy nice balance with Robbie but when with the others he’s kinda a sausage lol but love his energy nice guy coyg long love kev!
arsenal were one of the major players of setting up the super leauge and your sitting there taking the high moral ground piss off
Oh Man For the first time Julian talk sence.
Did Robbie really ask if Sesko is better than Eddie? 🤣🤣🤣
U didn't know who he was a month ago. Knock it off. Eddie could very well b better than him
Eddie is better! Sesko is a Slovenian whi hardly start for his club
@@dwayneterence7456 yeah sure dude 😅
Speak soon 🔜
It's legal outside of football to take performance drugs but players and clubs stick to those rules. Similar thing
City’s owners playing the race card
no court case should take place until the 115 charges have been dealt with
115 charges are drawn up by arsenal JEW owners
Rob get Kev some seamoss and bladderack pls🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Arteta saying: it's not tyranny of the mayority!" 😮
welcome back Julian
What about our links with Viktor Gyökeres? Is that a closed book now?
The main change to VAR should be:
Have a qualified official pitch side with the screen who serves like the linesmen.
Every decision should be made by they referee.
This would give them back the authority on the pitch.
They should just emulate the UCL that's all
Thought nobody cared about city?
We all care about their criminality
@@himdamnselfWhat like George Graham or Arsenal and the magic pills?
They don't care about city, they care about city's cheating. Imagine Tour de France cyclists saying they didn't care about Lance Armstrong's cheating.
@@helicoptersrkool Any proof or evidence? Because the Premier League hasn’t got any.
@@helicoptersrkool And Lance Armstrong? Is that connected to Arsenal and the magic pills?
Theyre suing premier league to say the rules they broke are unjust... thats admitting guilt. Now theyre trying to find some strange legal loopholes and threatening to not invest in many things. Shameless team with shameless fans who deserve to be back where they was pre saudi daddies. Nobodies who get relegated regularly.
Well said bro!!😮👊👏
Are you slightly dim? What has Saudi got to do with the Champions?
And of course City were winning trophies before Arsenal ever did.
@@robertmclellan3658 wrong again, there golden era was 1960s ours was 1930s.
@@anch2602 Obviously you just a bitter Tarquin.
The problem with VAR for me is two fold ! First the bar is so high that refs in VAR are afraid to over turn like Robbie was saying but even worse for ne is that the screen on field has become redundant! It is only viewed when being overturned.. so why take a look anyway? In the Newcastle incident I don't understand how the ref wasn't once called to the screen! The on-field ref can decide to stick with his decision or not. On field screen should be used to review!
Excellent comments by Julian
I don't think Julian and Robbie realise the "rules" were simply made up by a bunch of dudes in a room
How quick the premier League punish Everton and the other team yet man city have 115 and not 1 charge can be punish
The million question is why is that Everton and Nottingham Forest were quickly ducked and Manchester City is given like forever to decide their case? I feel there is a conspiracy theory here to give advantage to big teams above smaller teams. Manchester City are the culprit here rather than the victim they claim to be hater.
Man city topic 14:26
Regarding your both glowing take on Nketiah, I refer to the grumpy old git, Bricktop, "get your Tongue out of Eddie's ahole"
Julian says he's high energy, yet I've seen him stroll around for several games, disinterested.
Robbie, the reason why he get such bad transfer fees for sold players, is because of their high wages, which is offset by a lower transfer fee from the buying club, as the player naturally so, won't accept a big wage drop.
Nketiah should've been sold last summer, when his stock was a bit higher, now he's been proven to be an AFC reject.
He seems a nice fella so I wish him well, but wish him, Zinn, Ramsdale, Vieira & Nelson gone to bring in some money for squad player upgrades
Can’t wait to see 115ers relegation
Julien's point regarding City is such a straw-man's arguement. The rules were made to protect the PRODUCT and you can't use an 80yr old incident (when players had to go to their other jobs after playing a match) to justify what's happening in this instance. The landscape's changed tremendously-football today is a multi-billion dollar game. I remember when the rules were amended, due to Chelsea abusing it, and City agreed to the new stipulations. The issue with accepting more money (power) is that the consequences (responsibilities) become more steep. The stakes are very high for every member of the league and you can't simply threaten (this is exactly what City is doing) to burn the building down, when you're caught with your hands in the cookie jar. They're being accused of knowingly breaking rules that jeopardize the chief selling point of the Premier League brand, PARITY (as evidenced in the distribution model of the TV revenue). This is the issue with letting in non ‘fit and proper owners’, with overinflated egos, who care not for the integrity of the sporting competition they'd joined.
Personally, the other Premier League partners should consider expelling them if they fail to retract that lawsuit.
Robbie is biased on the City case. Julian states the possibility of City winning but he doesnt want to hear it.
Can you do a version of this titled "what if Man City are Innocent"? You don't need this version since everyone thinks the already are guilty :')
You never hear of Robbie AFTV going on holidays with his wife and his family 😮
Mufc fans did this for years, we made their club irrelevant. Liverpool fans then joined, we crushed Klopp and sent him packing with his solitary PL title. Now Arsenal fans want to take us on? Be careful what you fish for.
Robbie agenda on city not working with julian 😅
Most cringe comment I've read in my life. "Take us on" 😂😂😂😅😅😅😅
Arsenal and Brazil centre-back Gabriel, 26, said it is "his dream" to join Brazilian side Corinthians, the side he has supported since he was a child
Totally agree Robbie, if people don’t agree with laws in a certain country that align with their plans/philosophies/morals/ethics they more often than not move to a country which they can align with. It’s simple…. City in and they cop the 115, or they piss off and do summet else elsewhere (good luck….)
I dont think Julian understands what a sport is, if you had to charge for assault imagine what mma fighters or like boxers would be charged with
Robbie as usual trying to sensationalize everything. And I can't believe I am saying this, Julian being the sensible one
Julian has the head in the right place..
Julian is really good. His analysis and insight is always spot on
Are you ok ?
Mate, you got to lay off the crack… Julian and good don’t sit in the same sentence unless the word after good is riddance
Man City premier League trophy should stripped.simple is that.
The question is if Man City gets away with it, will Arsenal follow suit in order to keep up or will Arsenal stay clean and titleless?
Lee judges have style, big up👍
Lee was missed!
Manchester Arabs need to be held accountable for their actions of breaking the rules
At ease super Kev, with you we are even stronger 💪 🙌 ❤️
Once squadies always squadies
Big up Don Robbie within AFTV
Let's go for another one
In a way I do agree with Julian, it’s unfair that the established teams that built their success over the years get more profit than the new clubs that want to compete with them. The new clubs are trying to close the gap and the only way is to heavily invest but there needs to be some limitations.
Invest fairly and not bend the rules, bribe agents or inflate wages and revenues.
There ain’t no financial analysts on Etoro… DO NOT BE FOOLED
People need to start making excuses for Man City if they break the rules then they're going to have to pay for it if they got evidence they didn't do anything wrong just come out stop going through all these loopholes
Best you stick to cricket
George Eastham and Joe Baker (Arsenal players) went on strike about wage cap
man citt should get the samw treatment that rangers got in scotland fucked out of the league , there cheats full stop, julian trying to back man city , var and eddie nketiah up😄🙈
Interesting how you treat Julian with money vs TY with insults
Ty is a muppet 🤣 well Julian is as well tbh
@JDV-ww4db yeah ty is black
You could have just scrolled if you don’t like it genius answer
With all of that, this is why the super league might still happen because the big clubs owners are gonna want to do something differnt
Arsenal bottled the title. Just accept it and move on
And they didnt bottle the title. We talking about a club that think they can make up there own rules scum of a club
Cba with julian
Man City won everything but respect from most of the rival fans and sadly never will however hard they try
“Look what Arteta has done with Havertz” … taken him from a CL winner to second and no trophies….oooohhhh😂
So if city lost to west ham that makes havertz a good player by your measure? 🤡
@@tom11mansfield It took Klopp 4 years
@@tom11mansfield try again smooth brain
Chelsea wouldn't have win either if they didn't bend the rules like city. They got banned for a reason
lol this guys mind set “it can favour Arsenal, Man Utd Liverpool against teams coming up” so we’ll just challenge them teams then and not worry about winning the league anymore
The judge has aged fast🤣
there is a bit resemblance between lee judges and cristian bale, maybe distant relatives
115. And didnt they get away with more a few years ago and they simply disserpeared?
Also Arsenal's revenues arent "really high". They're like 5th or 6th in the league
Football talk starts at 14:20
breaking down the game through ego is not clever
its not democracy when 95%% of the clubs advantage over a certain particular issue. each of these clubs haven't got the ability to spend so they hold back the few that do due to being in the majority. its like being married, you have a wife and she limits your ability to succeed in your life. its unlawful in that sense if your in a relationship that one party is harming the other.
What if.. I am a Arsenal fan...but we came 2nd ..end of...if man city get convicted it won't effect what they have won.. so forget about it
Chelsea set the precedent and city are hammering it home, these two teams are disgraceful what they are trying to do to football, sports washing is sports washing there no point trying to put it into another point of view
If we are looking at this case we have to blame all involved. The Americans have opened the gates
backing man city in this court case tbh because in my book they have been one step of the game from the get go...Bottom line FFP protects the big 6 and as a villa fan who's owners are literally on par with you lot in terms of wealth (do your homework) and yet have to sell to buy this isn't fair...What makes me laugh is everybody talking about what happens if city win this??? what about that lot from the North East worth £700b !!! City's time has gone its now newcastle's turn...Roll on the superleague....As for the prem league-Biggest crooks of the lot for how long it has taken with regards these 115 charges...
so having a top team comes down to who wins the richest owners lottery rather than the organic wealth a club generates. How is swapping Arsenal/United for City/Newcastle beneficial to anyone. Its all fun and games until the owners die or get bored with their toys and clubs like villa drown in debt when all the directors loans get called in by uninterested family members.
If you're going to do a lod on the subject then make sure you're clued up on it. Theres no "what if" they're guilty. Everyone knws they've been pumping money into the club via inflated sponsorships. They're not denying it. What the cheats are trying to argue is theres nothing wrong with it.
What hypocrisy, a gulf nation complaining about discrimination 😂😂
City didn’t sign up to it they objected
And still agreed to take part.
Did they participate under protest?
@@himdamnselfbut it doesn't matter if it breaks English law.
Are they supposed to pack up and close they’ve been a club in the league since 1880 .
@@Mcfctreble23 yes if they don't want to follow the rules
This guy comparing saka and penalty and city using their friends to pump money into there club over years to dominate..unlimited resources big wages…over 100 charges..hope the premier league deal with them.
What if they aren't
City will be trown in Championship level football next year
I don’t know this guy discussing with Robi. He is too sympathetic to City. Arsenal was never in the position that City is now. City knew what they are doing but felt they will cover it up. Now, City are trying to wear the PL with endless legal challenges. The ultimate end result is to find opportunity to destroy the PL. This isn’t something you would say I understand City’s position. There is nothing to understand here. This is pure evil. It may have been protecting the privilege of the big clubs. But, in the past Clubs have organically grown and achieved success. Leister is a good example. City is just a guilty try to maneuver the laws and the institutions in the hope they avoid facing the consequences of their financial doping. They would have achieved success without using the anti- competitive corrupt practices. That is why Liverpool, Lester, Spurs and Arsenal have been able to challenge them in the past few seasons. So, for him to sympathize with city especially by bringing unrelated nonsense from history doesn’t show his fairness but he doesn’t understand both the law and City’s charges or intentions. Arsenal have always maintained under Arsen Wenger an example to financial FairPlay. We lost our players to City not because they are better but they were able to go using these hidden deals. So, let them face the music.
lmao you and Robbie need to seek help asap
Can we please talk about Arsenal and not some investment App!!!
Then nothing happens as usual
Equating saka winning a penalty to city’s action is insane Julian. I know you are trying to be neutral but it’s all in the context. If the rule books said you cannot try to win a penalty and referees enforced it, Saka would not be doing it
What does Julian do? And why doesnt he pay for his flights? Someone fill me in?
None of your busines?
Scrap VAR please it's rubbish
So Julian was gone when Lee was on it now Julian is on it Lee is not on it because, Lee is on holiday