Predator Generator Running My Whole House | My Set-up and Total Cost

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  • Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024

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  • @TorqueWagon
    @TorqueWagon  2 года назад +7

    How do you get power to your house during a blackout or when lines are down? Let me know if you have a similar set-up or if you do something totally different.

    • @marcberm
      @marcberm 2 года назад +6

      I need to change my setup to a proper inlet, circuit selection, and main breaker interlock. For the time being I do things the WRONG WRONG WRONG way, using a long suicide cord with male NEMA L14 on the generator end and a NEMA 14-50P on the other (with an optional adapter to 14-30P). That lets me backfeed via my EV charger receptacle (fully outdoors) or through a basement window via my electric dryer receptacle. Either way it is CRITICALLY important that things are done in the proper order: (1) open all breakers including the main, (2) connect the generator to the house, (3) power-up the generator, (4) close the EV or dryer breaker (whichever is being used for the backfeed), and finally (5) close the breakers for selected/critical loads. Main breaker MUST remain open for the entire time the generator is connected to the house. The shutdown procedure is the opoosite of startup (open all breakers, shut down and disconnect generator, close all breakers, main first).

    • @banevideobanevideo3602
      @banevideobanevideo3602 2 года назад +1

      Ecoflow delata pro

    • @dannygreen7391
      @dannygreen7391 2 года назад +1

      I have 2 generators one is duel fuel propane and gas .

    • @dannygreen7391
      @dannygreen7391 2 года назад +3

      @@marcberm if possible hire a electrician we did that and he put in a transfer switch it's all set and I've tested it

    • @SteveGrin
      @SteveGrin 2 года назад +1

      I have the exact same set up, I use the predator 9000/7250. It's overkill since you can only run 28 amps through that cable. You would have to start using additional receptacles directly to the device to utilize more of the gen's capacity. 2nd point I wanted to make is that you need to be careful what you run off the generator, the power is not clean - my ups's were going nuts until I reduced the sensitivity. I would avoid running any sensitive equipment off these predator generators.

  • @bearbpm
    @bearbpm Год назад +8

    Same setup. My generator is just a little smaller (5300w). I have color coded my breakers for must haves, caution items, and only in an emergency. Also wrote a step by step procedure so if I’m ever not home, wife and/or kids can set up by word for word instructions. No thinking needed in an already stressful situation, just read and do. Headlamps at breaker panel so they don’t have to be searched out. Only change I would make is a larger generator and electric start.

  • @wegmandan
    @wegmandan 2 года назад +29

    Don't add ethanol fuel in your generator. If you you have that choice. And once you're done with the generator drain the ethanol fuel out. Start it up and run it till the engine dies, to empty the bowl of the carburetor. Or you will be going to need to go through that carburetor afterwards. in a few months. Ethanol is also corrosive. It doesn't store as well as your standard petrol.

    • @theMister07
      @theMister07 Год назад +2

      Great point, I run Non-Ethanol with Stabil during storage time

    • @jonathanhosier7847
      @jonathanhosier7847 Год назад +2

      That’s why most have a fuel shutoff to drain out the carb

  • @thomaslong567
    @thomaslong567 Год назад +2

    Im a backup power and gen tech for Cox communications.i will add something about the Internet.because we bought an farmhouse with electrical issues last year and i already had the Predator 8750 that i bought years ago.we couldnt get regular internet that usually requires a standard modem that doesnt require alot of power to run.we had to get a dish system through hughsnet.i found that it requires almost 48vdc at about 2-3 amps just to power the modem and dish.we have no commercial power coming into the house.we use 6 100watt solar panels,12 alphacell 3.5HP batteries and a renogy 1000w inverter -charger.we have to be careful and not leave the router - modem unless the generator is running which only runs when charging.or need to power heavy loads.Great video Sir.

  • @B_Loke
    @B_Loke 2 года назад +14

    I have the Predator 9500 inverter generator for my home setup. I have everything set up pretty much the exact same way you do with minor changes.
    -I ran 6/3 wire
    -I don’t have an interlock plate, but have the breaker blocked with warnings. (Interlock doesn’t fit my panel and breaker location)
    -I added soft-start kits to my 2 AC units (crucial if you want the AC)
    I can run the entire house, all loads.

  • @bigjack32004
    @bigjack32004 Год назад +14

    I’m not sure this was mentioned in the comments but as you turn the refrigerator and or freezers on, they will use “start up watts” that are much higher than the run wattage. So just because the lights are on inside the refrigerator doesn’t mean that your generator produce enough start up wattage to turn the compressors back on. So make sure that the compressors are actually running. You may need to turn off other circuits to have the start up wattage.

  • @wt9653
    @wt9653 2 года назад +17

    Basic rule during power outage is to ration and not normal use.
    Most efficient way to power the whole house isn't just a large gas generator.
    Its a mix of Gas generator and Power station. If there were few days of power outage. Gasoline generator is only good as long as you have surplus gas.
    We'll use Hurricane Ian as an example.
    Expect to lose power for next couple of weeks and no gas stations are open.
    You need both to run electricity for all your needs.
    Gas generator for large energy hog like small cooking appliances or sump pump in your case. Gas generator shouldn't be on 24/7. Rationed until needed.
    Power stations can be on all the time for refrigerator and freezer with few solar panels. Especially in Sunny Florida.
    Lighting should be all rechargeable work lights from Ryobi, Milwaukee, Dewalt, and others.

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад

      Good advice. I’ll have to look into a power station. For my use, I don’t live in an area that has ever been without power for more than a day or two, so I’m pretty comfortable with just the generator for now. I’m also considering a tri-fuel adapter for my generator that would allow it to run on natural gas or propane, in addition to gas.

    • @wt9653
      @wt9653 2 года назад +1

      @@TorqueWagon
      I live in Washington State.
      NW is known for wind storms and power outages. Mostly for few hours.
      Back in 2017, power was out at my house for 7 days. Others were even less fortunate.
      They were out for about a month.
      This is also a earthquake country.
      Portable power station are good for packing around if you need to bugout.
      For home, I would buy 2 or 3 cheap lithium lifep04 batteries, 2000 watt inverter, couple of solar panels, and solar controller.
      You'll get more for the bang.

    • @stbentoak5047
      @stbentoak5047 2 года назад

      Or you can buy a Honda EU7000 and run 24 hrs on 5 gal in Eco mode. We banked up 25 gal before IAN. Only went thru about 10 Gal before we got power back. Ran 10 circuits on reliance electric transfer panel. Also, can watch your wattage consumption on your iPad and see what exact wattage each item you add does to your load. Can't even hear it running from across the street...No NG or Propane here...

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад +3

      @@stbentoak5047 it all depends on your needs and your budget. That Honda generator literally cost 10x what this Predator does, so for someone who’s less likely to lose power for long periods of time, that’s a lot of money that can go to other survival supplies. I realize that I’m probably going to be out of luck if I lose power for more than a week, but if I’m in that situation I may have bigger issues to consider besides electricity.

    • @stbentoak5047
      @stbentoak5047 2 года назад

      @@TorqueWagon Besides Hurricanes, we have violent thunderstorms sometime even daily in the Summer here, with Zapping lightning ready to take your stuff out at a moment's notice. There were people roving the streets at night after Ian listening for running generators to chuck in their truck and steal. They weren't hard to find roaring away in driveways while mine was behind my AC unit with a 3/4" Kryptonite cable and a 10GA umbilical entwined on it. They never seen it or heard it. Also, at about 250-300# you ain't chucking this in a truck. I can be up and running in 10 min with no worries about a gummed-up carburetor. After Ian, no one down here was worried about saving money. Having dependable clean inverter power was king to saving your property and sanity and electronic equipment that was vital like routers and laptops. Some are still out 12 days later. This was a long-term investment and I have no worries that this unit will work days, months and years into the future with parts still available...

  • @garywinkel1831
    @garywinkel1831 2 года назад +7

    Excellent video Sir. I have the generator and plan on a very similar setup. A few years back, we lost power due to a tornado. Neighbors brought over a generator and we ran extension cords in through the window. That worked great but a setup like this with the proper 'load shed' is a game changer. Very well presented and thank you!

  • @HALEdigitalARTS
    @HALEdigitalARTS 2 месяца назад +1

    Hurricane Milton just hit us in Central Florida (October 2024). We have the predator 9000 *without* the setup you have. What a mess. Extension cords everywhere. I will definitely do something similar to what you have. Something to consider-87 octane is all they ship after a big emergency like this. And... expect very long lines once a few stations start getting gasoline. That being said, IF you have natural gas as an option, for a whole house (or partial house) semi-permanent setup, I would strongly urge you to get a natural gas-based generator. Getting gasoline is difficult, and the propane trucks most likely won't be able to get to you and the thousands of other customers because of blocked roads, etc. . I'm not sure what the cost difference is, but you might want to consider it. The predator series of portable generators are great for what they are, and I'm impressed at how well your system is designed, especially at the low cost. Excellent video sir, thank you!

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 месяца назад

      There’s actually a tri-fuel conversion that I’ve been thinking about getting for this generator. I think it would be an additional $200-$300 but would be worth it if gas or propane ever become difficult to get during a disaster. I have a natural gas line, so as long as the utility company doesn’t shut it off, I would have a good supply of fuel in a disaster.

  • @pipedreams57
    @pipedreams57 2 года назад +2

    I have a small Honeywell 3500 gen that has a120/240 plug and 2 120 volt outlets. I made 2 115 volt power cords out of 14/3 with double male ends. Turn off 200 amp main box breaker and most double pole breakers to keep appliances from overloading the gen set. One of the power cords will power everything on the left side of power box and the other power cord will power the right side of main panel box. Just keep in mind the capacity of the generator in total watts. If power is off for more than a day I fall back on a Lincoln welder with a double male end plug that I plug into my 4hp air compressor receptacle in the garage and turn on that double pole breaker. Hot water heaters are resistance heat that will not suffer from low voltage, so we still get to take a hot shower. The Lincoln consumes a gallon of fuel per hour but does everything if needed. The small Honeywell 3500 will run lights, fridge, garage doors, and the blower on my wood stove for 13 hours on 3 gallons of gas. problem solved for cheap price of 2 25ft. extension cords and 2 more 115 volt male plugs. keep it simple silly.

  • @douglastaylor638
    @douglastaylor638 2 года назад +6

    Great video! That’s what I did I picked up the 9002 days ago at Harbor freight went to Lowe’s and got their kit will be putting it in this weekend love your video good job

  • @brianr101010
    @brianr101010 2 года назад +5

    I have an old Coleman Powermate 5500 11HP gen and can run 4 5,000 BTU window A/C's, Full size Fridge/freezer, small chest freezer, 1/2 HP deep well Jet pump water pump ( for showers and toilets mostly so this can be turned off and on as needed ) easily six or seven lights, 3 ceiling fans on medium to stir the air, one or two oscillating fans as needed, modem/hub, 70" TV, and laptop computer, and sometimes a Bluray player with ease. I turn off the water heater and have enough hot water stored for 2 days and up to 3 or for showers before needing to juggle switches to reheat. I cook using microwave, small hot air fryer, and butane hot plates.

  • @mikeb.2169
    @mikeb.2169 2 года назад +5

    I just bought this same generator from Harbor Freight. Our power has gonna out a couple of times so far this year for a few days and well, throwing food out of the fridge got costly!! The purchase was a must have if you know what I mean! I'm new to the owning a generator and your video was very helpful with ideas and things to think about. Example: we have gas heat also but didn't think about running the fan for heat during winter until you mentioned that! Excellent video sir!👍🏻

  • @raylewis3073
    @raylewis3073 4 месяца назад

    I’ve had the 30amp generator breaker box hooked up to my main home breaker box and all I’ll have to shut off in the breaker box is my HW htr . The other appliances can be turned off in the house. I’m shopping for a generator that can run on propane. Really nice to have this option living on the gulf coast.

  • @andy70d35
    @andy70d35 2 года назад +3

    You are so lucky, we can't do anything like this in the UK.

  • @fretwireonfire
    @fretwireonfire 14 дней назад

    Nice setup. Do you worry about thd levels and your fridge and electronics?

  • @dannygreen7391
    @dannygreen7391 2 года назад +3

    Yes but is it duel fuel propane as well. Proane stores alot safer and longer . But we got the same set up but wished we'd gotten a bigger generator. It still runs the house furnace and fridge and freezer but probably not every light on at once

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад +1

      It's not dual fuel...yet. I have my eye on a tri-fuel adapter that would allow me to run propane or NG, in addition to gasoline.

  • @harrycharles9028
    @harrycharles9028 Месяц назад

    Did the generator power your washer and dryer appliances?

  • @sylviacandler5541
    @sylviacandler5541 Год назад +1

    Ok, we need to know some specifics:
    What is the gas consumption on the load that you are pulling? Critical to know to estimate how much fuel to have on hand!
    Refrigerator pulls how many watts
    Freezer pulls how many watts
    TV pulls how many watts
    Computer and computer screen pulls how many watts
    Heat/AC pulls how many watts
    Garbage disposal pulls how many watts
    Garage door opener
    Great video!

  • @itzjoeylo4501
    @itzjoeylo4501 Год назад +3

    If you are to update to a bigger generator above 7500w the 30amp breaker and your wire gage would need to be updated to 50 or 60amp breaker and wire gage. I believe 7200w is Max for 30amp breaker.

    • @1betterboy
      @1betterboy Год назад

      Actually a 40 amp breaker would be fine 7500divided by 240= 31.25Amps

    • @itzjoeylo4501
      @itzjoeylo4501 Год назад

      @@1betterboy you forgot to. Add 20% for safety code.

    • @AlexV-pf3io
      @AlexV-pf3io 2 месяца назад

      @@itzjoeylo4501Where did you get those 20%? 40 amp breaker is the next permissible breaker for 31 amp circuit

  • @56thommo
    @56thommo 2 года назад +2

    Can anybody point me in the direction of the Generator Load Chart mentioned in the Video.. tks

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500 2 года назад +2

    If you can afford it and the gen is for backup power primarily, get an "Inverter Generator" which had a pure sine wave and is much cleaner for sensitive electronics like a Microwave oven. I run a construction-type open frame generator just like you do, I just don't power the microwave when the generator is supplying the house power. Also, even with a 5,500 running Watt gen, you can most likely power your A/C, you just need to get a soft-start kit installed (about $350.00) that reduces the surge current when the A/C first starts up (which can over power your gen). Once the A/C powers up with a soft-start kit, your gen can keep it and the rest of the house running. There are also tons of youtubes on how to swap out the carb for a gasoline/propane carb so in an emergency, you can run the gen on propane which is very helpful if you have propane heating already or a BBQ with tanks of propane.

  • @JJJere
    @JJJere 2 года назад +1

    I've got the 9000. Bought it 2yrs ago for back up purposes but haven't needed to yet.

  • @danb2533
    @danb2533 Год назад +1

    While running the generator, have you ever had electrical issues with your Ring system, wifi, laptop, refridgerator, etc.?
    Is it worth paying extra $$ for an inverter?

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  Год назад

      @danb2533 I’ve never had to run the generator for more than 30-60 minutes, but I’ve had the wifi and ring system powered up with no problems. I think there’s some risk though, and I’ll be testing an inverter generator from Harbor Freight soon, just to see what the main differences are so stay tuned.

  • @lesliehodge4097
    @lesliehodge4097 2 года назад +1

    Link for hookup outlet on house. I didn’t see info in comments. Thanks

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching. There’s a link for the Reliance generator inlet in the description. I think it’s the first link you’d see.

  • @edmonblocker3465
    @edmonblocker3465 Год назад

    I've wached a lot of vids on this subject and yours is by far the best I've seen. Thank you kindly.

  • @sall7029
    @sall7029 Год назад +1

    Not sure I would trust harbor freight equipment though during an outage ?

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  Год назад

      I’ve not had any issues with it so far. I’ve had some contractors use it while needing remote power on some projects around here and it worked well for them too.

    • @ernestorivera7284
      @ernestorivera7284 Год назад +1

      Predator generators work just as good as Honda
      You’re basically just buying the name when it comes down to it

  • @bronxbrothers121
    @bronxbrothers121 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this video. This is my exact setup I want. We were lucky enough to buy a house to that has a Generac propane backup and auto switches on. But, In case it is an extended outage and I'm out of propane, I want this setup. I have the Predator 9000 30-amp.

  • @Maatson_
    @Maatson_ 2 года назад +1

    You can run your Ac on it as well but definelty need to add some parts to AC to not run so hard at start up basically a soft start . Add that and you can run Ac and the lights and other things on the generator at same time

  • @doktaahwho8858
    @doktaahwho8858 2 года назад +3

    If you get a proper transfer switch you dont need to shut off the mains. The transfer switch toggles the individual house circuits to the generator power.

    • @thelog86
      @thelog86 Год назад +1

      With a transfer switch your limited to what you can use. Depending on which one you get you may only be able to use 3 or 5 circuits. And the labor to hookup a tranfer switch makes that option much higher

    • @doktaahwho8858
      @doktaahwho8858 Год назад

      @@thelog86 limited? Guess it all depends on if you know what you're doing or not.

    • @niaralosusa
      @niaralosusa Год назад

      @@thelog86 ...exactly. I would want the ability to choose any/all of the circuits in my home not just a select few...which is why I will be installing an interlock.

  • @jimoray3
    @jimoray3 Год назад +1

    I’ve got the same generator and plans to do exactly what you have done. Thx

  • @ez-g3090
    @ez-g3090 Год назад

    I have the 4550 3650. I plugged my fridge into it and it wont run it. Why?

  • @elektrikman8834
    @elektrikman8834 2 года назад +2

    Im curious about your dual water heaters I see they are electric ,its a good thing that you pointed out the load thing for people because they will try and run everything with too small a gen set

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад +1

      It’s two 50 gallon electric water heaters connected in series. I bought the house two years ago and the heaters were part of the original build in 2006, I think. There’s also a convection loop in the plumbing that allows instant hot water in most of the fixtures. It’s completely passive but it works brilliantly. We have 4 kids in the house and we have never run out of hot water.

    • @elektrikman8834
      @elektrikman8834 2 года назад

      @@TorqueWagon thanks for responding there are only 2 of us now and I put a passive loop in years ago however it made the hot water heater come on too often so I put a small cider pump in and it only runs on timer witch allows instant hot water and also allows my electric bill to relax a little ,I wish I had gas where we live I would convert over in a minute

  • @vishalrana6357
    @vishalrana6357 2 года назад +1

    Will the Sump pump work with this? I have one 1hp, one 3/4 and one 1/2 hp sump pump in my basement

  • @MsNevadakid
    @MsNevadakid Год назад +1

    howdy and thank you much. I was wondering if you can {back feed } from the generator to your main thru the double pole breakers 30 amp as shown ? they are going thru in reverse... thanks again..... will wait for a reply before I get started on my own...

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  Год назад

      I may be misunderstanding the question, but I think the answer is yes, I can power my breaker box through the 30 amp breaker in the upper right position (back feed). The main power has to be off for the safety of anyone who might be working on the power lines, and the rest of the breakers can get power from the back feed breaker.

  • @thelog86
    @thelog86 Год назад

    I prefer this over a transfer switch because your limited on what you can use and it cost alot more. I researched all ways to get power during an outage. And this by far is the most efficient way and can use anything in your house with the flip of a breaker

  • @chucklucas8747
    @chucklucas8747 2 года назад +1

    Have my outside socket up 18 inches from the ground I have mine hook up to a 20 amp breaker an wired to my panel with a inter lock I don't have a large house but it runs fringe pellet stove an lights cook on table top burner the most I have had to run this was 18 hours remember to start your Gen at least four times a year an shut of gas run carb dry

  • @JRAllen_RCFlyer
    @JRAllen_RCFlyer 2 года назад

    I would like to see a video or if you could provide some guidance on how to wire up the boxes.

  • @claytonhouse1
    @claytonhouse1 Год назад

    If you have one of the generator grade extension cords with the splitter the has 3-4 outlets, can you use a plain old extension cord to extend like a coffee maker cord into the splitter or do they all need to be generator grade?

  • @thelog86
    @thelog86 Год назад

    I have this same exact hookup. I just turn on all my breakers and the generator didnt even bogg down. I dont think id run the ac but i believe it could hzndle it

  • @earlwheelock7844
    @earlwheelock7844 2 года назад +1

    Can Harbor Freight generators be converted to LP gas if so who makes the conversion kits?

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад

      I believe so. This is the kit I’m looking into to add portable propane tanks and natural gas to my power options. centuryfuelproducts.com/generators/conversion-kits/tri-fuel-conversion-for-predator-generators-propane-and-natural-gas/63964/predator-63964-tri-fuel-kit

  • @garyhawthorne1678
    @garyhawthorne1678 2 года назад

    hello i have a firman 9400 watt generator with 50 amp box and breaker, i should be able to run my ac as long as the stove and dryer not on at the same time

  • @leecarroll1817
    @leecarroll1817 2 года назад +1

    Like many other things in life, bigger is better. I would opt for the 10kw as it better to have it and not need it as need extra power and not have it. Yes your purchase will no doubt be regulated by what you can afford or comfortable with. Yes my experience is with Military generators and bigger is always better.

  • @rayzor285
    @rayzor285 2 года назад +1

    Are these setups able to power 240 V appliances such as air conditioning?

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад +1

      I’ve been told by a couple people in the comments that it could run A/C if I install a soft start kit on the A/C unit, but I haven’t looked into what that would take yet.

    • @rayzor285
      @rayzor285 2 года назад

      @@TorqueWagon Everything I looked up led me to the same conclusion. Thank you for the reply.

  • @HDK8305
    @HDK8305 2 года назад

    Neighbor complaints about the noise? Are you running it at night time?

  • @garybalanesi610
    @garybalanesi610 Год назад

    How about a 12v water heater element. For the top element. Water heating backup.

    • @AlexV-pf3io
      @AlexV-pf3io 2 месяца назад

      12 volt?.. I set those two elements in series and run 3500 watt gen to heat water

  • @scottmoede5316
    @scottmoede5316 2 года назад

    How MUCH for a 9000 watt generator? Aververage price for what you have is 1000 to 1200 us dollars?

  • @Zkpe02
    @Zkpe02 2 года назад +1

    I purchased the 10k starting watts & 8k running wattage…my generator is a dual fuel propane & gasoline ( Ethanol Free) …Using propane my running watts is 7.5k, propane has less power….Use Ethanol Free gasoline if at all possible, you can store it longer ( 6 Months ) and it doesn’t absorb water like the gasoline with ethanol which is recommended to use within ( 3 Months )…

  • @sticktron2857
    @sticktron2857 Год назад

    You can get a soft start for ur AC

  • @kenprice5115
    @kenprice5115 2 года назад

    Are you using gasoline? Can you add fuel while running? Potential for natural gas, propane, diesel.

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад +1

      I am using gasoline, and I’m not sure about adding gas while it’s running. It would be physically possible, but I’m not sure if that would be a good idea.

    • @jeffmessersmith8459
      @jeffmessersmith8459 Год назад

      Safety first. Never add fuel to running equipment. The engine is hot and any spilled fuel could ignite. No sence in making a bad situation worse.

  • @BGWenterprises
    @BGWenterprises Год назад +1

    Thinking long term.
    Id have a natural gas line point for a generator installed, it would also double as a fuel source for a BBQ.
    .
    A stove top that uses NG or LPG.
    Requires just a lighter to use, no electricity needed. I know when i took my electric stovetop out, it was marked as 7,400w thats a very sizable electric load for one item.
    .
    Depending on cost of electricity versus natural gas, id also consider changing the hot water and dryer over to gas as well.
    Possibly have gas lines ran to all locations in the home where a natural gas appliance could be used. So as they die over time, you could change them over.
    0.01c

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  Год назад +1

      I would actually love to do that but my wife prefers an electric range for some reason. I may change the water heaters out to gas when the time comes to replace them, and I’m also considering a tri-fuel conversion kit for the generator that would allow it to run on LP and NG in addition to gasoline.

  • @rushtk2112
    @rushtk2112 2 года назад +1

    Is there a way to tell what the max u can turn on?

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад +1

      The best way I can think of would be to use a clamp-on meter to measure the average power usage of your most used circuits. I know there are systems you can buy that will do that and send the results to an app on your phone. You can also find lists of estimated usage for certain appliances. If you add up the watt usage of all the appliances you want to use, then add the highest single starting wattage of those appliances, you would have a pretty good idea of how much power you need out of a generator.

    • @rushtk2112
      @rushtk2112 2 года назад +1

      @@TorqueWagon thank you!

    • @billpotter8714
      @billpotter8714 2 года назад +4

      Charts will tell you what each of your appliances will draw. You have to manage your load, turning off turning off major users so you can use others. In an emergency you quickly learn not to have every light in house and every TV, etc. on. 😃

  • @IndianaDundee
    @IndianaDundee 2 года назад +1

    Hello, from Richmond, IN.

  • @facts1752
    @facts1752 Год назад

    Hi, is your interlock system just as good as a transfer switch?

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  Год назад

      It’s something you can do instead of a transfer switch and usually doesn’t cost as much. There are pros and cons to both set ups.

    • @facts1752
      @facts1752 Год назад

      @@TorqueWagon ok thank you, I appreciate it

  • @drewc3651
    @drewc3651 2 года назад

    I have a 3750w predator, it ran my HVAC system all night with fridge and a couple lights

  • @davidmontalvo6560
    @davidmontalvo6560 2 года назад +1

    Wow! You were able to run all that with just a 6500 watt generator?

  • @chrissheffer6823
    @chrissheffer6823 2 года назад +1

    Great video! Got me thinking I need a similar set up! Noticed your water heaters are daisy chained. I’ve never seen that before. Was that your decision and if so why that over on demand?

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад

      They were original to the house in 2006. I’ve only lived here for about two years. There’s also a convection loop in the plumbing that gives most of the fixtures instant hot water. It’s a pretty cool set up. 4 kids and we’ve never run out of hot water. I think having the heaters connected in series may provided some energy savings over one bigger heater. I’d never seen that set up until we bought this house. I’d consider switching to a gas on-demand when these wear out, but I’m worried that we’d lose our instant hot water at the fixtures as I’m pretty sure the convection loop requires a conventional heater to work correctly.

    • @chrissheffer6823
      @chrissheffer6823 2 года назад

      @@TorqueWagon I have been looking at gas ODWH for some time. I remember reading somewhere about some type of loop where there is instant hot water at faucets with them, too. Maybe the same set up will work for you!

  • @thelog86
    @thelog86 Год назад +1

    I have the exact setup. I just turn all my breakers on and just be mindful of what high draw items that i use like a microwave. My stove l, water heater and heat is gas. So really my ac would be the thing i would need to consider not using.

  • @fd4340
    @fd4340 2 года назад +3

    You must have to store quite a bit of gas to keep that generator going.

    • @tomschmidt381
      @tomschmidt381 2 года назад

      That is true and something a lot of people overlook. In my case we have 5 5-gallon gas cans with fuel stabilizer we rotate. I numbered the cans to make it easy to track. Normally we do not use all that much gas for the lawn mower or periodic generator testing so when the gas gets old stick it in one of our cars. The cans are sealed so even with the 10% ethanol blend have not had a problem.
      We have the 8750/7000 watt Predator and figure using it a few hours in the morning and then in the evening we have a week's worth of gas. Here in NH massive winter ice storms are the primary cause of power outages but during the past outages power either never went out in town or was quickly restored so getting more gas was not a problem. The reality is likely different in other locations so will need to adjust the amount of gas you store.

  • @inthewoods3237
    @inthewoods3237 2 года назад +1

    I can run everything EXCEPT on demand hot water heater, didn’t try the dryer or electric stove since they are 240 as well, but it does run my 240’ deep water well pump. 12000/9500 duel fuel.

  • @romaldothomas8653
    @romaldothomas8653 Год назад +1

    Thanks for sharing great video

  • @bryonsusedautos
    @bryonsusedautos 2 года назад

    How much gas does it take to run daily?

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад +1

      I've never had to actually run it for emergency power, but based on the 8 gal tank capacity and the manufacturer's claim that it will run 14.5 hours on one tank, I think it would probably take about 15 gallons a day to run it at about 50% load. Not exactly ideal if gasoline is scarce or when gas prices are super high like they are right now.

  • @titaniumman3398
    @titaniumman3398 Год назад

    Have the same generator, it does not have an inverter built into it which can cause the electronics in newer appliances such as TV's and refrigerators

  • @VideoByPatrick
    @VideoByPatrick 2 года назад +1

    Great info, many thanks.

  • @sarabear1238
    @sarabear1238 Год назад

    Great product. Use for power outage.

  • @hardymichael533
    @hardymichael533 Год назад +1

    2 EcoFlow delta pro and 4 EcoFlow delta pro extra smart battery ( 20,8 KWH and EcoFlow smart Panel for Circle breaker good idea

  • @TimHancock-h6e
    @TimHancock-h6e 2 года назад +2

    you should be able to at least run your ac with that genie. maybe not the water heater but everything. even your stove and dryer. not at the same time but it'll run them one at a time.

  • @matthewlogsdon3510
    @matthewlogsdon3510 2 года назад

    I bought the predator 9000 and there was no manual but there is a spot for a ground wire. Are you running yours with a ground attached that goes into the ground?

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад

      I plug mine into a grounded inlet on my house, so my understanding is that there’s no need for a ground wire. I think if you’re using it to power a campsite or aren’t plugging into a grounded inlet, then a grounded wire would be a good idea.

    • @matthewlogsdon3510
      @matthewlogsdon3510 2 года назад

      @@TorqueWagon it's plugged into a 4 prong outlet under the electrical box in the garage that goes to the house so you answered my question without knowing all the info thanks. My 1st generator learning as I go.

    • @mikek8229
      @mikek8229 2 года назад +1

      If your generator has a floating neutral, which is preferred in this situation. Then you don't want to ground your generator separately.

    • @yaknowwhothis5102
      @yaknowwhothis5102 Год назад

      You need to see if it bonded or floating neutral, if it’s bonded you have to unbond it at generator cause it’s bonded at the house leaving it bonded is against code and can cause damage to things. If you only run the generator as itself and not thru the panel leave it bonded . It’s easy to make a switch to go back and forth

  • @thelog86
    @thelog86 Год назад

    Most items now are so low on watts i can run pretty much everything. I know just dont use anything high draw like microwave my stove is gas i have city water. Sump pump may be heavy draw but that only kicks on every so often

  • @426superbee4
    @426superbee4 Год назад

    Most deep water well are 220 v Yes it can run it but need to turn off some thing else to give it power YOU WILL KNOW WHEN YOU OVER POWER YOUR GENTERATOR> It will start to Surge. So what i did was? Run a extension cord from out side, to a room that i can live confrontable in with a surge protector switch. I turn it off go to another room and turn it on and off, all threw out the house. The kitchen and central air and heat where you use the most electric at

  • @AlexV-pf3io
    @AlexV-pf3io 2 месяца назад

    To run el. water heater and a stove I used 3500 running watts generator. Ask me how…

  • @Pk3_Garage
    @Pk3_Garage 2 года назад +3

    Great video. You should install a Tri-fuel kit on your generator. You would be able to run it off of gasoline, natural gas and liquid propane.
    We have the Predator 9000/7250 watts generator. I installed a Tri-fuel kit to connect it to our homes NG line.
    I installed a six and ten circuit manual transfer switch. I use both 30-amp outlets on our generator, to connect to the transfer switches.

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад

      I’m definitely interested in doing a tri-fuel kit. Where did you get yours? I have a utility NG hookup so that would be really nice if gasoline was hard to get for any reason.

  • @426superbee4
    @426superbee4 Год назад

    It want power Every thing that is turn on in a whole electric home. but can power up a room that your stay at the most. With Tv, computer, window unit, and space heaters, Lights, micro wave, electric grill and things but deep freezer, stove tops ovens, refrig. ect. some thing got to be turn off for those to run

  • @trscsaeg
    @trscsaeg 2 года назад

    Everyone has videos on their s for emergency backup. Do a video on how to do this during peak hours so you can lower your electric bill

    • @AlexV-pf3io
      @AlexV-pf3io 2 месяца назад

      Damn decision - gas is more exp. than electric

  • @richardmarte293
    @richardmarte293 2 года назад +2

    It's not the whoie house, please.... it's partial house. Now if u get a higher watts generator that can handle all ur appliances and u can leave all ur breakers on. THEN u can state the whole house, thx....

    • @niaralosusa
      @niaralosusa Год назад

      ...depends on what "whole house" means. Much of the electrical devices in a home are "nice to have" not "need to have." For example, one can get by with a small battery powered lamp versus turning on all of the lights in the home at the same time. If all of the necessary devices (fridge, furnace, well pump, sump pump, etc.) are powered, then the whole house is considered powered.

  • @skirmich
    @skirmich 2 года назад

    Just FYI that generator does not have a pure sine wave inverter on it so while able to turn on your house, Fragile and delicate electronics are in harms way from any spike that generator outputs... Laptops, consoles, PCs, TVs should not be powered by a non-Pure sine wave inverter.

    • @TheWilferch
      @TheWilferch Год назад

      I see this repeated all the time.....and my view is that it's overhyped. It's not so much the purity of power ( as claimed "good" and "necessary" as provided by inverter gensets)....as it is the potential damage from voltage spikes that is the real issue. So....running a generator that is not loaded to nearly max capacity with loads turning on/off , helps ( larger excess capacity helps here)...and....surge protection combined with Automatic Voltage regulation is the real way to save any electronics......the "purity of inverters" is seemingly barking up the wrong tree. And then this.....just what is "sensitive" electronics? Example...laptops have "bricks" in their incoming AC connection lines that allow 120-24- v, 50/60 hx operation as they take thus incoming power and convert to DC. Finally, we see the "Frying electronics" warning all the time in responses like this.....how many are repeating what they read....and how many have personal experience of damaging electronics? There are hundreds of reports of successful home-emergency-support done with common open-frame gensets.

  • @PaulSmith-zi3sn
    @PaulSmith-zi3sn Год назад

    Definitely not your whole house but your in good shape. Just remember 30 amp ... that load can add up quick

  • @patrickbaker2780
    @patrickbaker2780 2 года назад +1

    Buddy I'm gunna need that episode 10 of the nv4500 swap 😂

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад

      I’m trying man. I got sidetracked putting new rear brakes on the Burb and with some other projects around the house.

  • @dibcrayron
    @dibcrayron 2 года назад

    How much fuel to use non stop for a week

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад +1

      Based on a runtime of 14 hours per full tank (8 gallons), it looks like it would take about 96 gallons to run it non-stop for a week. I believe those figures are based on 50% load, so you’d use more fuel if you’re closer to 100% of the generator’s total capacity.

  • @solarandwindinsouthtexasda1473
    @solarandwindinsouthtexasda1473 Год назад +1

    Actually, you probably have a better chance of running the stove that water heaters so much amp draw

    • @AlexV-pf3io
      @AlexV-pf3io 2 месяца назад

      Yes, small element draw only 5 amps

  • @jaccourt9531
    @jaccourt9531 2 года назад

    Wish it was on sell again anyone have a coupon for this one.

  • @sylviacandler5541
    @sylviacandler5541 Год назад +1

    A neighbor plugged his generator into the electric dryer outlet, and then put the switch on the circut board for the dryer.

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  Год назад

      That seems pretty resourceful. It sounds like something an engineer or science teacher would do.

    • @AlexV-pf3io
      @AlexV-pf3io 2 месяца назад

      @@TorqueWagonNot - “wise” chemist. It is not safe to have male prongs on both ends of a cord

  • @TimHancock-h6e
    @TimHancock-h6e 2 года назад +1

    GOD, i bet you never have issues with hot water.

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад

      Nope. The only problem is that the heaters are 16 years old and I’ll probably have to replace them sometime in the next few years. Southern Indiana water has lots of lime sediment in it and that takes a toll on the internals.

  • @camperbum
    @camperbum Год назад

    If you haven't already, get a air fryer, we can use that for a lot of stuff...

  • @johnbrzenksforearm8295
    @johnbrzenksforearm8295 Год назад

    Me personally if I had access to propane or natural gas I'd buy a generator that will run off of those fuel sources so you don't have to store gas cans full of gas.

  • @66bigbuds
    @66bigbuds 2 года назад

    Many people are having trouble with these. They replace with a new one then the new ones goes to heck. Buy a Honda to start with.

  • @nevetslebog6436
    @nevetslebog6436 11 месяцев назад

    Better rewards with every Bite😂😂😂😂.

  • @billpotter8714
    @billpotter8714 2 года назад +1

    Nice video.

  • @alt7244
    @alt7244 9 месяцев назад

    The 9000 runs at 7250

  • @michaelspencer6523
    @michaelspencer6523 2 года назад +1

    Only power generator will run a small house completely uses the same amount of solar panels as the house or uses over $200 a day fuel cost and loud with alot of dangerious gases in the exhaust . A average small house uses at least 1 refigerator and freezer and 2 a_c's and a a water heater and a wall heater plus all others. From 60 to 100 amps at 120 vac 60 hertz single phase sine wave

  • @robertwatson818
    @robertwatson818 2 года назад +1

    Consult with a competent person about electricity. I know so called "licensed" electricians I would not let change a battery in my flashlight.

  • @rushtk2112
    @rushtk2112 2 года назад

    Nevermind, I wrote to soon...lol

  • @theamerican7080
    @theamerican7080 11 месяцев назад

    5500 is too small for whole-house detail.

  • @you166mhz
    @you166mhz 2 года назад +1

    the first minute forty eight seconds are a waste of time ...

  • @joesmith9053
    @joesmith9053 2 года назад +1

    you said whole house lol and only put on a couple of switches

  • @pel05661
    @pel05661 2 года назад

    You are misleading you are not " running your whole house " . If you wanted to be honest you would need a 17500 watt generator at least to run your water heater , stove and depending on the size , your air conditioning. I have a 19500 watt generator that truly runs my whole house inuding my 5 ton AC.

    • @TorqueWagon
      @TorqueWagon  2 года назад +1

      It will run the necessities and then some in an emergency and I can choose which circuits in my house to run from it. It’s low budget because not everyone needs to have or can afford to have an integrated back-up generator.

    • @niaralosusa
      @niaralosusa Год назад

      ...if you had watched the video he mentioned the need for emergency power. In an emergency you wouldn't be turning on every light in the home, lounging in your Jacuzzi bath tub or relaxing by listening to your high-powered stereo system...LOL!! Therefore, he is powering the entire home in the context provided.

  • @edmonblocker3465
    @edmonblocker3465 26 дней назад

    run your dryer, stove hot water tank and anything else you run on the electrical and then tell me you power your whole house on a 6500 watt generator.....

  • @jonathanhosier7847
    @jonathanhosier7847 Год назад

    That generator will NOT run your whole house if you are using heat/air 💯

  • @pipedreams57
    @pipedreams57 2 года назад

    Wait until you go to buy a part for the Predator engine, LOL, made in China.

    • @therealbigfoot3076
      @therealbigfoot3076 2 года назад

      Glad they never break down.
      With non ethanol gas anyway

  • @laryangel4082
    @laryangel4082 2 года назад

    Tt