There are a lot of reasons. A lot of it has to do with the culture of continually realizing someone is better than you and striving to catch up. And the one dude who IS better than everyone is only there because he doesn’t realize it and is trying to catch up too. The other thing is that culturally they aren’t looking for dudes that beat their chest with false bravado. Just dudes who meet the standard quietly and strive to be better. There are exceptions though. Some of whom have been interviewed here. 😂
It's no different in almost every environment where a level of expertise is bred, the most talented people in my field have NEVER been egotistical or had blown up chests etc. They were the exact opposite of that so I recognize the trait immediately!
Beating alcohol and depression is a tremendous achievement. I've been there and I can say that death was preferable to another day of open mouthed slogging through the freezing sewer of alcohol and defeatism. This man has a great deal to offer humanity and I appreciate his story.
As a combat vet and an artist myself, I truly enjoyed listening to this episode and will say that Pat Mac is by far MY personal favorite guest that has been on The Team House. All of your guests are great but Pat just "connected". I too use art (music -bass 30 yrs, painting, drawing, writing) as therapy for the "issues" that combat medics develop from combat rather than take any Big Pharma Poison pills. I recommend others try the same. Pat, THANK YOU BROTHER!! You're a good dude and A GREAT American!
Just want to say, out of all the military podcasts/military interview podcasts, you guys are by far my favorite. Love the duo, personalities and style. Keep up the awesome work and podcasts. Love ya guys.
Wow that hit home really hard at one hour in about second chances, for me my wife passed away from fighting a two year battle with cancer. Then I lost everything due to the medical debt and while she was in the hospital I found she had ran up almost a 100 grand in credit card debt. Now here I am at 53 years old trying to get back. If it wasn't for my 13 year old daughter I doubt I would have tried getting on my feet again.
Pat is such an inspiration and a legend, the rest of us can only hope to be 1% of the down to earth, honest badass he is. Thank you for your service Mr. MacNamara
My favorite dude to listen to!!! Thanks guys! I greatly admire his silent professionalism. I know the old timers before him are smiling. I do hope he writes a book that tells his story and releases it in a couple decades when things are declassified. Awesome listen!
Great seeing Pat on your show. I was in Special Forces when I first met Pat in passing and let's just say his demeanor is very hard to forget (LOL!). In regards to the question about why SOF guys have adjusting once they get out, I can say I agree 100% with Pat. There are a lot of separation issues. I was in CIF/CRF where we had a few guys from Pat's old unit. Even though we were considered a well supported SOF unit, those guys were miserable. Why? Because like Pat said, it was the best unit ever. When I got out of the military all of a sudden my expertise didn't matter to civilians, especially some idiot civilians who were never the best at anything they ever did.
Great episode with a lot of important themes. I got remarried at 38 near the end of my Army career - it is a vastly better relationship than my first marriage. I can relate to what SGM McNamara experienced in that regard. This is a goodd lesson that even for some of the scary humans, success and happiness isn't just about training until you puke and cutting throats. Thanks for the reorientation.
I love listening to Pat. I watch his videos constantly. He's always so fired up. He could talk about tying his shoes and still sound motivated as Hell.
This is a fantastic interview. I’ve watched multiple interviews with Pat, hours of interviews, and this is the best of them all. Maybe it’s because I really need his motivation right now, or maybe somehow, he’s just more relatable in this one, or maybe just you guys are that darn good at interviewing. Great job keep up the good work!
This is the greatest video on the internet. I freakin love you guys. Intel guys can be so cliquish, but for those of us former Ft Huachuca alumni, we can only wish we were as cool as Pat. I'd follow Pat into the gates of hell, not give it even a moments second thought. The single greatest thing I did in the military was running 9 min 15 sec. two mile at Huachuca (Apache Flats, baby) following a high-speed low drag guy like Pat. If I would have ran into people like Pat in my chain of command, I would have stayed in. I loved the Army but absolutely hated the incompetence the permeated the climb up into a tier 1 job. I miss Frankfurt so much, 5TH Corp, Sachsenhausen, and entertaining our Soviet guests! LOL
I went to a few of Sorinex's Summer Strong events and Pat Mac was there doing a demo at one of them. You could tell this dude has lived what he's saying. He speaks the same way Olympic gold medalists speak. Knowing from doing, screw the letters after your name.
Such an honest account. So true about accidents and mistakes, there’s a difference between poor preparation and making a mistake, and making a mistake because you’re just pushing the limits so hard. If you’re not starting to make mistakes you’re training too comfortably. Thank you again PM and the whole team.
Loved reading his stuff on shooting. His book was a great learning tool I used with my guys when I was in the service. No I was no ranger or SOF (things I wanted to be). Inspiring stuff.
Pat is the type of man, if he was my friend i would follow him around like a puppy dog. "Where we going Pat", "what we doing today Pat", "Can i come Pat". And i am an ex British vet and 60 years old. lol
That’s funny, I retired and became a part-time teacher. Best decision I ever made. I owe my best friend (Andria) and my daughter for guiding me to leave my government job, and start teaching. My quality of life has gotten so much better.
The beginning of the 18X program was terrible. I went through pre-selection smoke three times and then straight to selection with blisters and stress fractures. Needless to say they hated us. They gave us outdated maps that were so bad we had to go over land instead of on the roads. Good times but I didn't get through it.
This is probably the most entertaining episode. Seems that Pat could have been as good a stand up comedian as he was an operator. The "big 7/11 in the sky" What a fun show.
As mentioned this is US equivalent to UK BRIXMIS. These guys were also in Bad Tolz and next door to us in Dusseldorf station. UK Was in Northern Germany BAOR. The yanks down in the south. So did'nt mix often on exercises. In fact it wasnt until after the wall fell. That we all came togather in Desert storm. Great story teller. Remember the mullets. Mobility is survivabilty. What a true middle age proverb
So 9 months later, Fall 2023, it's RIF season in corporate America. I hear PatMac say that getting laid off is scary and immeidately lost a ton of anxiety about the possibility of being laid off. Thanks, Pat, for putting it into perspective.
I was stationed in Berlin Bde twice, Feb 89-Dec 90 then Oct 92- Jun 84. Det A and 39th PSSC were an open secret. I remember being on CQ one night in Feb or March 89 only allowed to read Army TMs or correspondence courses. I was looking through the US Berlin Command Phone Book. Each BN or Company had its own page with all the phone numbers from CO down to Supply and NBC room, etc. Except Special Security Detachment which had only 1 phone number listed on the entire page. That's when I found out about Det "A" /39th PSC.
I know first hand what he's talking about. Lost everything in the first marriage. I mean all of it personal clothes, cars , all storage everything. She stopped paying everything. I was working injured and rehabbing a broken back. At the age of 56. My motto became this is not the first time I started over. But now I have some one who will not do me that bad ever.
Man I feel for you I'm right there with you and same age too. Only difference was how my wife ran up the debt before she got leukemia and after the medical debt. Hopefully your doing better now too. If you were closer I'd buy you a few rounds knowing the shoes you walked in too.
@@jtaylorb88 driving a 2020 dodge ram , bank account same since I fired her ass , credit cards opened a lawn care business. You see there are 2 kinds of people out there ones that are anchors , they will drag you down, if you refuse to let go. Then there are people that will lift you up .by helping you up when you are down. Choose wisely
This gentleman is absolutely amazing me, and talking about things that I had no clue about. I think I have learned more about Special Ops, and units we have in SF structure from this interview than any other one I have seen. And he is one smart and entertaining, funny Billy Badass!! I wish I could buy him a beer and talk to him all the live long day! Thank you for this fantastic video. And thank you for your service Pat! A Hellish, Alpha, type American man .
It always amazes me how these SMU badasses are always some of the most humble and down to earth people. Props to Pat from a grateful American.
There are a lot of reasons. A lot of it has to do with the culture of continually realizing someone is better than you and striving to catch up. And the one dude who IS better than everyone is only there because he doesn’t realize it and is trying to catch up too.
The other thing is that culturally they aren’t looking for dudes that beat their chest with false bravado. Just dudes who meet the standard quietly and strive to be better.
There are exceptions though. Some of whom have been interviewed here. 😂
Most SF guys are cool, real dudes.
Plenty of opportunities to be humbled in that pipeline.
All true alphas are humble. It's the warriors way
It's no different in almost every environment where a level of expertise is bred, the most talented people in my field have NEVER been egotistical or had blown up chests etc. They were the exact opposite of that so I recognize the trait immediately!
Pat is a great man and a great American. A true inspiration.
Very inspiring line around 1:07:00 “dude you’re buried… no I’m planted , I’m growing from this” brilliant
As a history and geography teacher who loves Pat Mac's stuff, I support his ambitions to be a teacher. We need people like him!
Pat is fiercely happy and it’s contagious.
Great interview! He's a fascinating man!
I'm a 61 year old woman and he's inspired me to do more, work harder, not accept mediocrity.
'What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger "..................Humble and humorous while baring your soul.......... Many thanks.
It's always great when the hosts can ask a question and just let the guest talk, it really brings out the best in an interview
Beating alcohol and depression is a tremendous achievement. I've been there and I can say that death was preferable to another day of open mouthed slogging through the freezing sewer of alcohol and defeatism. This man has a great deal to offer humanity and I appreciate his story.
“I’ve seen Soviet dudes get hammered on antifreeze. Hammered! HAMMERED!”
That is living in my head rent-free forever, now.
antifreeze is sometimes put into wine to give it a better taste. But you gotta watch out with the dosage or you can go blind
@@sugandesenuds6663 ...also don't let that nosy Simpsons kid catch wind of it, lucky Pierre!
@@kxkxkxkx it took me 5 months to finally get that joke. well played.
As a combat vet and an artist myself, I truly enjoyed listening to this episode and will say that Pat Mac is by far MY personal favorite guest that has been on The Team House. All of your guests are great but Pat just "connected".
I too use art (music -bass 30 yrs, painting, drawing, writing) as therapy for the "issues" that combat medics develop from combat rather than take any Big Pharma Poison pills. I recommend others try the same.
Pat, THANK YOU BROTHER!! You're a good dude and A GREAT American!
Just want to say, out of all the military podcasts/military interview podcasts, you guys are by far my favorite. Love the duo, personalities and style. Keep up the awesome work and podcasts. Love ya guys.
Thanks, that’s super kind and we really appreciate it.
Wow that hit home really hard at one hour in about second chances, for me my wife passed away from fighting a two year battle with cancer. Then I lost everything due to the medical debt and while she was in the hospital I found she had ran up almost a 100 grand in credit card debt. Now here I am at 53 years old trying to get back. If it wasn't for my 13 year old daughter I doubt I would have tried getting on my feet again.
Was all of the debt in her name? Most of the time, survivors are not responsible for medical or credit card debt.
Also search for MGTOW philosophy, hope that would shed some insight.
@@mattminteer1756 unfortunately not all of it, but about 6 months after her passing they did write off the medical debt.
Damn man, that's a rough story to read...
What else can you do if you don’t try don’t give up
Pat makes for a freakin AWESOME interview
Easily the best guest that has been on the show. Huge respect for Pat, no bs just honest. Really humble down to earth guy.
Pat is such an inspiration and a legend, the rest of us can only hope to be 1% of the down to earth, honest badass he is. Thank you for your service Mr. MacNamara
I met Pat in like 2011 at a SWAT competition. Absolutely AMAZING dude!
Best SGM Pat Mac interview, better than anyone else who has interviewed Pat. It was cool to see more of personal side.
Pat has a good Buzz going!
I don't believe in heros or human worship. You Mr Mac are a cut above and a man worth emulating in so many ways. Thanks for being you bro.
My favorite dude to listen to!!! Thanks guys! I greatly admire his silent professionalism. I know the old timers before him are smiling. I do hope he writes a book that tells his story and releases it in a couple decades when things are declassified. Awesome listen!
A true legend. I’d love to shake his hand.
Awww man if Pat was a substitute teacher when I was in school that day would have been legit!!!
“Capturing’ somebody’s HARD, man!” 😂☠️
Better to 'capture' them inside a casket?! 😂
Pat Mack, The Man with the Plan
Great seeing Pat on your show. I was in Special Forces when I first met Pat in passing and let's just say his demeanor is very hard to forget (LOL!).
In regards to the question about why SOF guys have adjusting once they get out, I can say I agree 100% with Pat. There are a lot of separation issues. I was in CIF/CRF where we had a few guys from Pat's old unit. Even though we were considered a well supported SOF unit, those guys were miserable. Why? Because like Pat said, it was the best unit ever.
When I got out of the military all of a sudden my expertise didn't matter to civilians, especially some idiot civilians who were never the best at anything they ever did.
Come on man, random people don't owe your ego anything. Let people live their lives freely.
I follow Pat Mac, and this is the best interview that I've seen.
I LOVE Pat Mac, he's my favorite dude.
I could listen to this guy for days, EXCELLENT blog, has to be one of the best blogs ive ever watched.
Pat Mac is amazing!!!! Thank you for everything you do and continue to do brother!
Oh, that bottle of Macallan immediately caught my eye. Great stuff.
And the back up in the corner dude spends more on booze than my work boots
Pat Mac doing anything covert is crazy to me. Literally the most memorable dude ever.
Honored to attend CST training with Pat Mac back in 2006 with the AWG. What an amazing human being.
Great episode with a lot of important themes. I got remarried at 38 near the end of my Army career - it is a vastly better relationship than my first marriage. I can relate to what SGM McNamara experienced in that regard. This is a goodd lesson that even for some of the scary humans, success and happiness isn't just about training until you puke and cutting throats. Thanks for the reorientation.
H-Minus!
That shit hit different when he said he went on a run and remembered who he was. Pat Mac is a legend 🤘🏽
Pat Max is great guest, great story teller and great American.
If you ever have to opportunity to meet and/or train with this man he’ll change your life.
Utmost respect. This guy is a survivor!!! He is incredible, speaks the truth, tells it like it is. Thank you
Pat is amazing
They need to make a movie about this badass!
He’s so funny! A legend and movie like character! What a great interview.
I love listening to Pat. I watch his videos constantly. He's always so fired up. He could talk about tying his shoes and still sound motivated as Hell.
Absolutely Great. Thank you all 3👍👍👍
This is a fantastic interview. I’ve watched multiple interviews with Pat, hours of interviews, and this is the best of them all. Maybe it’s because I really need his motivation right now, or maybe somehow, he’s just more relatable in this one, or maybe just you guys are that darn good at interviewing. Great job keep up the good work!
Imagine you get a substitute teacher and it's someone like Pat Mac holy cow
Been watching Pat for years. He has worked through so much in his life and he never stops. Aggressive positivity in the face of adversity.
Love pat is always straight forward and tells it like it is
He is a larger than life character and my good friend Geo thinks the world of him, so that immediately makes him good people in my book.
Out f**k**g standing! Thank you Pat for your words and attitude. You lifted me up back where I belong.
This is the greatest video on the internet. I freakin love you guys. Intel guys can be so cliquish, but for those of us former Ft Huachuca alumni, we can only wish we were as cool as Pat. I'd follow Pat into the gates of hell, not give it even a moments second thought. The single greatest thing I did in the military was running 9 min 15 sec. two mile at Huachuca (Apache Flats, baby) following a high-speed low drag guy like Pat. If I would have ran into people like Pat in my chain of command, I would have stayed in. I loved the Army but absolutely hated the incompetence the permeated the climb up into a tier 1 job. I miss Frankfurt so much, 5TH Corp, Sachsenhausen, and entertaining our Soviet guests! LOL
Funny I thought this was a premier and figured out it was live 10 minutes at the end. Haha.
His origin story is snapping into a radioactive Slim Jim
Seriously, best guest ever. Fuck, this guy was so genuine and so funny, he kinda I spied me
Doin what he did in East Germany was crazy.
Pat is probably the only sf operator on you tube no one can put do who else was in delta besides him
Great video, guys a great story teller. Loved his motivation to never give up. Thank you for your service
I was waiting for this for so long
I went to a few of Sorinex's Summer Strong events and Pat Mac was there doing a demo at one of them. You could tell this dude has lived what he's saying. He speaks the same way Olympic gold medalists speak. Knowing from doing, screw the letters after your name.
Such an honest account. So true about accidents and mistakes, there’s a difference between poor preparation and making a mistake, and making a mistake because you’re just pushing the limits so hard. If you’re not starting to make mistakes you’re training too comfortably. Thank you again PM and the whole team.
Always love listening to this guy talk..... legend
Loved reading his stuff on shooting. His book was a great learning tool I used with my guys when I was in the service. No I was no ranger or SOF (things I wanted to be). Inspiring stuff.
Pat is the type of man, if he was my friend i would follow him around like a puppy dog. "Where we going Pat", "what we doing today Pat", "Can i come Pat". And i am an ex British vet and 60 years old. lol
👏👏👏
Super motivating guy. Pat Mac is the man!!!
Facing death and watching friends die tends to humble one and bring perspective to life.
This man changed my life. He made me a “Sentinel”. There’s Pat Rogers (RIP) and Pat Mac…you can put the rest anywhere you want to.
Born of Osiris- threat of your presence is definitely a good one! The new album has a lot of good music.
19:17 That was a great Rip Torn impression.
That’s funny, I retired and became a part-time teacher. Best decision I ever made. I owe my best friend (Andria) and my daughter for guiding me to leave my government job, and start teaching. My quality of life has gotten so much better.
Metal up buttercup! Getchu some! Rock n Roll! Pat is one bamf! I'd love to get some training fom him.
Great Interview
Damn I would love to meet Pat, he is such an awesome dude.
The beginning of the 18X program was terrible. I went through pre-selection smoke three times and then straight to selection with blisters and stress fractures. Needless to say they hated us. They gave us outdated maps that were so bad we had to go over land instead of on the roads. Good times but I didn't get through it.
Pat is interesting and funny ,highly entertaining and informative
A man and a mag58!! It was cool as hell! Lol. Oh man that had be rolling. Thanks man. This was a banger.
Great interview, been waiting for this one to come along.
This is probably the most entertaining episode. Seems that Pat could have been as good a stand up comedian as he was an operator. The "big 7/11 in the sky" What a fun show.
Love every single pat interview, dude is an inspiration for everyone.
As mentioned this is US equivalent to UK BRIXMIS. These guys were also in Bad Tolz and next door to us in Dusseldorf station. UK Was in Northern Germany BAOR. The yanks down in the south. So did'nt mix often on exercises. In fact it wasnt until after the wall fell. That we all came togather in Desert storm. Great story teller. Remember the mullets. Mobility is survivabilty. What a true middle age proverb
So 9 months later, Fall 2023, it's RIF season in corporate America. I hear PatMac say that getting laid off is scary and immeidately lost a ton of anxiety about the possibility of being laid off. Thanks, Pat, for putting it into perspective.
Been waiting for a Pat interview and this did not disappoint. Basic Dude Stuff! Did Mac say that he does online art classes?!?
You need to subscribe to his keep the blaze alive website. There is all kinds of cool stuff on there. Including a weekly live podcast.
Stay awesome pat, rock and roll brother, D.O.L. W.D.W. AATW
Pat Mac's is one of the best interviews I've ever seen- and that includes Kate Beckinsale bragging she wasn't wearing panties!
Great episode, thank you.
I was stationed in Berlin Bde twice, Feb 89-Dec 90 then Oct 92- Jun 84. Det A and 39th PSSC were an open secret. I remember being on CQ one night in Feb or March 89 only allowed to read Army TMs or correspondence courses. I was looking through the US Berlin Command Phone Book. Each BN or Company had its own page with all the phone numbers from CO down to Supply and NBC room, etc. Except Special Security Detachment which had only 1 phone number listed on the entire page. That's when I found out about Det "A" /39th PSC.
I know first hand what he's talking about. Lost everything in the first marriage. I mean all of it personal clothes, cars , all storage everything. She stopped paying everything. I was working injured and rehabbing a broken back. At the age of 56. My motto became this is not the first time I started over. But now I have some one who will not do me that bad ever.
Man I feel for you I'm right there with you and same age too. Only difference was how my wife ran up the debt before she got leukemia and after the medical debt. Hopefully your doing better now too. If you were closer I'd buy you a few rounds knowing the shoes you walked in too.
And that’s why I’m not getting married lol
Sounds like my ex wife has an older twin sister she never told me about 😂
@@jtaylorb88 driving a 2020 dodge ram , bank account same since I fired her ass , credit cards opened a lawn care business. You see there are 2 kinds of people out there ones that are anchors , they will drag you down, if you refuse to let go. Then there are people that will lift you up .by helping you up when you are down. Choose wisely
Pat is Awesome!
Pat Mac. I think he's a solid human.
Thank you Mr. McNamera. I listened closely, thank you sir.
I have chronic pain, it hurts to move but it’s way worse when I don’t. Exercise and nutrition are literally the only things that help.
I really needed this interview at this time in my life thanks Pat for sharing.
1/75th Rgr Regt
That stipple drawing is amazing. My aunt is an artist & did drawings like that for the nature center is Asheville where she lives.
This gentleman is absolutely amazing me, and talking about things that I had no clue about. I think I have learned more about Special Ops, and units we have in SF structure from this interview than any other one I have seen. And he is one smart and entertaining, funny Billy Badass!! I wish I could buy him a beer and talk to him all the live long day! Thank you for this fantastic video. And thank you for your service Pat! A Hellish, Alpha, type American man .
Wish Pat would do long form stuff on his channel!!
Glad to see SF fraternity interacting. Hope someday I will also get a chance to share my experience. Kudus from a veteran of Pak SSG.👍
Awesome Podcast Jack and Dave, this was a fun, informative, and easy listening experience! Thanks!
Plague Years is a great band for gritty, tough workouts.
Watching this video is BASIC DUDE STUFF! 😀
Great interview. Pat Mac is the man. Q: when do you get Shrek McPhee on?
Watching Pat Mac on Team House, Basic Dude Stuff!
Juggernaut Cabernet. Good stuff Pat Mac!
Bird watching makes me better observer and notice fine detail. Makes for a better hunter too. Its also an outdoor activity.