Awesome, in that case mission accomplished! :) First there's the "normal" one where the setter hits to the defender, then sets, then the defender attacks. And then there's the ones where the defender actually sets the ball he/she defended, and you do this in two variations, one where ball initiator/attacker starts in the back of the court, and one where he/she starts in the front of the court and needs to create some space after initiating the ball in order to be able to attack. Doing all these from both sides for both players (plus some other stuff if you want like for example the 3 defensive balls to attack in the end) is a good hour or so of pretty satisfying training, even if lets say you honestly were in the mood to play games on that day. :)
thanks these are really useful! Since you're dong approach and spiking, out of curiosity, what do you think are the main issues that cause us not to contact the ball at the highest contact point, AND what do you think causes the timing to be off (ie jumping too early not reaching the ball, or jumping too late reaching it at a lower level (not the highest contact point)...? Sorry if my question is complicated...
Hmm, interesting question! Personally, I believe most of the cases where people either mistime or hit with a bent arm so that the contact point is lower than it could be, the root cause is mechanics or technical habits. And sometimes those technical habits are there because one has listened to some not so optimal approach/jumping/armswing advice, sometimes it's just that one has never tinkered withthesethings and one just does what came naturally, and sometimes it can actually be muscle weaknesses/stiffnesses that makethe shoulder not work "fully" so then the shoulder protects itself from injuries by diminishing its movements basically. The root causes for timing being off (just now when I'm thinking quickly) I believe there are 3 most common ones, one is enough for bad timing, but sometimes a player deals with several of them: 1. An armswing that takes so long to perform that one by default cannot hitatthe highest point with this armswing, so the player will always hit on the way down. 2. Inefficient approach mechanics which hinders optimal adaptation to nonperfect sets. 3. Unreliable setting from partner so that the attacker cannot "trust" that the rhythm and tempo of one set to another will be similar to the previous ones. I hope that's at least agood starting point for an answer, this is my immediate answer without too much thinking. I also have to say that I am in no way immune to thesethings, I have (and to some degree still do) struggled with everything I mentioned here as potential problems! 😅🏐 But in general, I believe most humans who have a quick enough armswing and strong/flexible enough shoulder, have an adaptible approach, and can trust their setter will have a good timing. Meaning I don't think the actual timing calculation function of our brains is almost ever the problem, our brains are insanely good at calculating directions and speeds of moving objects and timing things based on that. If we drive in traffic for example, we are very accurate at predicting how much time/space we need to be able to overtake someone in general. However, that relies on the fact that our vehicle has the speed/acceleration capabilities that we assume they have. If our vehicle all of the sudden starts malfunctioning, our calculations crash. Similarlyto if we calculate to hit with a quick armswing, but then end up having a slow armswing (for whatever reason) once its action time. Hope this makes sense and was a good enough analogy! :)
These look useful and actually seem more fun than usual drills.
Awesome, in that case mission accomplished! :)
First there's the "normal" one where the setter hits to the defender, then sets, then the defender attacks. And then there's the ones where the defender actually sets the ball he/she defended, and you do this in two variations, one where ball initiator/attacker starts in the back of the court, and one where he/she starts in the front of the court and needs to create some space after initiating the ball in order to be able to attack. Doing all these from both sides for both players (plus some other stuff if you want like for example the 3 defensive balls to attack in the end) is a good hour or so of pretty satisfying training, even if lets say you honestly were in the mood to play games on that day. :)
thanks!
Thank you! :)
First time I've seen this drill. I love it!
Nice! These variations are fun! :)
thanks these are really useful! Since you're dong approach and spiking, out of curiosity, what do you think are the main issues that cause us not to contact the ball at the highest contact point, AND what do you think causes the timing to be off (ie jumping too early not reaching the ball, or jumping too late reaching it at a lower level (not the highest contact point)...? Sorry if my question is complicated...
Hmm, interesting question!
Personally, I believe most of the cases where people either mistime or hit with a bent arm so that the contact point is lower than it could be, the root cause is mechanics or technical habits. And sometimes those technical habits are there because one has listened to some not so optimal approach/jumping/armswing advice, sometimes it's just that one has never tinkered withthesethings and one just does what came naturally, and sometimes it can actually be muscle weaknesses/stiffnesses that makethe shoulder not work "fully" so then the shoulder protects itself from injuries by diminishing its movements basically.
The root causes for timing being off (just now when I'm thinking quickly) I believe there are 3 most common ones, one is enough for bad timing, but sometimes a player deals with several of them:
1. An armswing that takes so long to perform that one by default cannot hitatthe highest point with this armswing, so the player will always hit on the way down.
2. Inefficient approach mechanics which hinders optimal adaptation to nonperfect sets.
3. Unreliable setting from partner so that the attacker cannot "trust" that the rhythm and tempo of one set to another will be similar to the previous ones.
I hope that's at least agood starting point for an answer, this is my immediate answer without too much thinking. I also have to say that I am in no way immune to thesethings, I have (and to some degree still do) struggled with everything I mentioned here as potential problems! 😅🏐
But in general, I believe most humans who have a quick enough armswing and strong/flexible enough shoulder, have an adaptible approach, and can trust their setter will have a good timing. Meaning I don't think the actual timing calculation function of our brains is almost ever the problem, our brains are insanely good at calculating directions and speeds of moving objects and timing things based on that. If we drive in traffic for example, we are very accurate at predicting how much time/space we need to be able to overtake someone in general. However, that relies on the fact that our vehicle has the speed/acceleration capabilities that we assume they have. If our vehicle all of the sudden starts malfunctioning, our calculations crash. Similarlyto if we calculate to hit with a quick armswing, but then end up having a slow armswing (for whatever reason) once its action time. Hope this makes sense and was a good enough analogy! :)
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Hahah you know these drills!
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@@ivanklemens4810 Thank you! :)