I personally don't want excessive fame. I just want to do something I love and make enough of a living so I can live a comfortable life. In fact the notion fame and excessive wealth, due to how it seems to change people for the absolute worst, terrifies me.
The story of Diane terrifies me. I have never seen Bojack Horseman, but from how you explained Diane's character arc made me think about how I want to someday make webcomics and video games that have meaning and tell a deep, compelling, and kinda dark story. I'm scared that I won't be able to work on those stories because my life as an adult will be too hectic and I'll be too busy focusing on the art that makes money. But I don't want to lose these stories, the characters, the worlds, or the messages they have, because I've worked hard on them, many of them for at least five years. I'm only in college now and still a minor by a few months, so I'm not particularly pressed for time, but it still give me anxiety because time flies and I might run out of it before I even realize it, and where would I be then?
I have no idea if this is going to help you or have the opposite effect. I'm 37, and the stories and unexplored art ideas I carry with me have been with me since I was in high school. That's well over 20 years that I haven't turned these stories into something. There were times it made me so depressed and anxious... Ironically enough, this show brought me out of that. It taught me that even if your plans and dreams don't work out exactly as you want them to, you can still find fulfillment and happiness. You can change your mind and it's okay. You can one day decide that you don't enjoy this anymore and move on to something else, only to find yourself coming back to it later. I enjoy doing this as a hobby NOW while working in a completely different field, instead of feeling pressured to monetize and capitalize every single idea I've ever had. Don't follow the pressure. Follow your joy.
@@FeministCatwomanthis is the conclusion I came to as well. I currently am working as a freelance artist which helps pay the bills, while all my personal projects are free from the burden of “making what sells” and stuff! It’s not quite as simple as that for everyone, and even I have additional issues that kinda hinder my creativity a bit (mainly issues with focusing) but it’s perhaps the best option a lot of creatives have for the most part!
As a artist I’ve also had this dilemma Yeah, I don’t do art professionally but sometimes think to make the stuff that the algorithm will promote other than the stuff I want to do.
Man, this hits hard for me too. I've been trying hard to push some of my original art for 2 years now. No matter how much I improve, no matter how many hours I dump into a project, no matter how much emotion I put in my art, no matter how technically impressive it is, no matter what program I use, and how challenging it is to use it. Nobody. Freaking. Cares. But as soon as I draw a little bit of fan-art then all of a sudden everyone jumps on board, pretends my old stuff doesn't exist, and expects me to do it again. I hate life...
@@uanime1 In a way yeah, you're right but also how did some artists become so popular with their OCs? I am thinking of pivoting my focus next year. It's gonna be all fan-art with a few little OC doodles thrown in there because I can't completely let go of them. Maybe that'll be better? Who knows at this point.
@@thepuzzlemaster64 "how did some artists become so popular with their OCs?" The most common way is using nudity, followed by attractive women in skimpy costumes. After that it's short comics and humour. Fetishes can also work, such as furries or goths. Basically you have to look at what most people search for when looking for OCs. "It's gonna be all fan-art with a few little OC doodles thrown in there because I can't completely let go of them." Good idea. Make sure the fan art compliments your OCs, for example if you're drawing Teen Titan fan art most people won't care about your Dilbert OCs but would like other teen OCs.
i very much get where you’re coming from, social media/online platforms is a hell of a rocky slope to climb. i’m not sure what to say bc i haven’t cracked the code either, but i wish you good luck on your journey, and be sure to take it easy on yourself ^
@@fivetopoint Thanks! For me it feels like you need to be at the right place at the right time to get a little bit of success, but even then it's finicky and brief. Like one time I drew fanart of this artist I liked, and it got super popular. I drew another one a few days later and it got no attention at all. Another one I did that frustrated came from a Klonoa fanart I made a good while ago. The WIP that only showed 1/8th of the full drawing got more attention than the final piece. All because I posted the WIP the day the Klonoa demo came-out (which I didn't know about). Also both of those got me next to no followers on Twitter either, so it was only a brief high followed by disappointment. But yeah, thanks again for the kind words. Bit tough to take a break in the final month of the year, but I know to rest a little when it gets too rough.
i legit think bojack horseman is one of the best shows ever, i can't get enough of people's perspectives on it!! would love to see more of this sorta video from you celestia
@@potatopotayto8332 "it got even better as time went on" Todd became pointless, Diane became even more insufferable, the number of dropped sub-plots increased, and Bojack kept regressing because the show needed more wacky humour. So it actually got worse.
@@uanime1 that is a VERY backwards way to look at the show. the character development was great (yes bojack became a worse person but that was the point of the show, and it took on a very serious tone so no it wasn't for "wacky humor") , we had some of the best episodes, the overarching plots and subplots were great even if there weren't many (the fact _that's_ what you value tells me a lot about you) and we got an amazing ending that fits the show very well. sorry if you don't have the critical thinking skills to like the latter seasons of bojack horseman. also hey you're saying that "diane got even more insufferable" under a video about DIANE'S DEVELOPMENT?? like did you not watch it ooorrrr...? you have the right to have that opinion, but looking at your reasoning, it's a rather stupid one!
@@potatopotayto8332 "that is a VERY backwards way to look at the show." I provided reasons why the show got worse. "the character development was great" What development? Todd becoming asexual and nothing plot-related related being done with this. Everything that happened with Mr Peanutbutter's family affected nothing. That actress Bojack strangled. Ethan Around. "it took on a very serious tone so no it wasn't for "wacky humor"" Wrong. One example of this was in season 4 after Sarah Lynn died of a drug overdose and they were still making jokes about Bojack doing drugs, even though he got clean after spending a year in a cabin. The show had to reference how stupid this was in season 5 during a talk with Dr Wu. And let's not forget that time Todd's stupidity resulted in a bunch of clown dentists getting rabies. For some reason the show doesn't want you to think of Todd as a bad person for being worse than Bojack. "the overarching plots and subplots were great" Until they randomly dropped them, such as the "Ethan Around" show. "we got an amazing ending that fits the show very well." They had to retcon Bojack killing Sarah Lynn because that strangling subplot in season 5 went nowhere. In a season where billionaires can legally kill people, yet no one cares about that. "sorry if you don't have the critical thinking skills to like the latter seasons of bojack horseman." My critical thinking is why I can tell how the show fell apart because it focused on nonsense. Your lack of them is why you claim it was good but can't explain why. "you're saying that "diane got even more insufferable" under a video about DIANE'S DEVELOPMENT??" She developed into a worse person, like Bojack. "you have the right to have that opinion, but looking at your reasoning, it's a rather stupid one!" I noticed you didn't provide any reasons why Diane was meant to be a good character. I guess you're the stupid one for failing to realise this.
Bojack has been a series I’ve been avoiding for years because I NEED people to get better. I NEED to see lives improve. But your analysis of Diane made me sit and and be like “Huh. When does later come?” I have spent so much of my life trying to make money and monetize my hobbies instead of just like, DOING them. I find fulfillment in my hobbies, then ruin them by trying to turn them into something that I can make cash off of. If you do something you love, you never work a day in your life, right? Wrong. I decided two weeks ago that I wanted to make a webcomic and just show my world off. Then, I got it in my head that maybe I should be making money off it. This analysis kinda made me realize that I gotta do something that fulfills me simply because it fulfills me. I don’t wanna be ten years into the future going “damn, Shoulda done the thing when I had the chance.” I have a chance now. Gonna do the thing. Thanks.
Good Damage's message resonated so much with me. Like Diane, I also dreamed of writing a story based on my trauma to resonate with people who went through something similar. But you don't have to write about that to resonate with these people! Writing about something positive can just as easily bring them comfort and help them through their hard times. In fact, most of the media that brought me comfort during mine are positive. Just because your story is not deep doesn't mean it won't be meaningful to someone out there.
It’s really unfortunate that at the age of 13 is when I started to realize that I needed to draw what was popular before posting art I wanted to make and do for myself :’D being a people pleaser doesn’t help with that at all, as now I’m working on 4 things, sprites for games and an animation way before I could do anything for myself, it sucks, and I admit I click on things I’d rather see than waht the content creator is more passionate about, not to say I’m guilty for the things I’d rather consume, but more that I want to see how other people think instead, rather than what I want
Honestly this was something I’d never considered with her arc. That might be because I haven’t watched bojack in it’s entirety, I’ve only watched it when someone else is watching it, but that’s a really beautiful and bittersweet story from Diane.
This is one of the most worrying things for me, if I ever do end up becoming popular for my Art. Currently I wish to keep making what I want to, and I wouldn't want to change if I ever became famous. You really hit the nail on the head with this video, Stove Guest Barrister!
As a full time artist through my social media following, & person of past child abuse who also cut out their father out, Diane's story hits SO close to home... I've always been a traditional artist, transforming pain into art that meant something to me, my BEST pieces being made when I was at my lowest. Just like Diane did, Id actively keep myself in that bad head space so I could produce something "good". And, just like Diane, made something else from a moment of fun curiosity that resulted in LARGE public demand and adoration. It wasn't traditional art, it wasn't deeply connected to the pain in my past, and it wasn't made from turning trauma into art. It was just silly little fantasy fashion chokers. Toughout Diane's entire story it's shown that she believes for something to have meaning, it has to be created through a struggle. Even when she's given opportunities to make or be part of something that affects others in a way that could help, but it's not a struggle and instead rather simple, she has a HARD time accepting it as meaningful. The song she accidentally helped Sextina create in the abort episode being a good example imo. Sextina didn't "struggle" to make it, and didn't have to have an abortion. The tone wasn't dark or demanding, but fun and enjoyable song. Which is why Diane had a VERY hard time believing it was meaningful/helpful to those going through a struggle. It's a great contrast to her character development when she finally accepts that what she makes doesn't have to come from her trauma/ pain to be meaningful. It's the conversation she has with PC about damage that broke me down to tears as I realized just how similar my experiences as a woman, a child abuse survivor, and artist are to her story. Her story helps stop me from questioning my work now. It can be hard when something we as artists have fun making gets seen by hundreds of thousands of people or sometimes millions when it's a piece that just came from having a good time. It leaves you thinking "if I had made something from my trauma for this post instead, think of all the people who would have seen it instead of this silly fun thing." But it's OK to embrace happiness. Art is no less valid when made from moving forward. Sometimes as artists we hold tight to pain and trauma because we believe it makes us better creatives, and the thing (art) that once helped us deal with our trauma, become what prevents us from moving on from it. Diane's story helped me change that.
But yeah, I don't think Diane would have gotten the "satisfying end" to channeling her trauma through her book of essays if she wrote it. I think it was a tool to hold onto her pain and not move on from it because, as she said herself, going through what she did made her "special". And without that, she wouldn't be special anymore in her eyes.
This thing you said when you mentioned GI (I just say it this way bc it's easy to find what I'm talking about) is so relative, like, yeah, a fanart of GI would give you more views effortlessly almost, but deep in your heart you know that even if you get only 25 likes in your original art, every time, those 25 ppl are there FOR YOU, for your style, for the real value of your Craft, not just for the posing moment one uses fanart to feed our ego or just not feel like nobody appreciates us. My twitter is full of a certain ship from GI, and then, GI is so niche (I suspect so niche that the reason why they don't make any more collabs is that no other game or series will get any benefit from it) that even when you draw a ship content, the moment you draw a different chara FROM THE SAME GAME, it gets ignored anyways, if this happens with the game's charas themselves, imagine how ignored my original art gets, if I have 100 likes in an original piece I'm surprised that they actually liked it so much 👀 (but that's one of my twitters, on another Twitter of mine, I get asked for commissions fortunately and on IG I've made some ppl like some of my OCs even if they don't know what their personality or lore is like, and that's a big deal to me ❤️) What I mean with this is: make ppl get to know you for what you actually love doing, it's not easy, but it's rewarding, HOWEVER one thing I learnt from psychologysts is that doing only what we love ALWAYS eventually makes us hate what we love, because we can't live in a constant happiness, the brain is not releasing more dopamine by doing just things we love, so eventually it doesn't feel rewarding anymore. SO my advice is: do work on things you dont like but that helps you grow anyways from time to time, without leaving what you love behind, because say you DON'T like drawing GI fanart, but upon studying the style or amount of details, the way the hair of each character is shaped, the way they shade skin etc, you learn things and you post it and you get followers, imagine that 1 out of 100 new followers actually just likes your style, you get many advantages from this: -you distract yourself from the constant need to be happy doing what you love SO THAT you love that thing more every time you go back - you learn tips and tricks and apply them on your characters (like the hair shape thing) -you get ppl to know you - you don't feel like you're wasting your time (bc you're learning new things) and learn about ppl's perspectives when they comment (specially if you make lil silly comics) PD : I clicked this video because it was YOU, because I havent watched bojack horseman, I may watch it someday, but the first thing that made me watch this video was the fact that it was YOU, not a controversy, not a fandom ❤️(no parasocial xD, I just appreciate your work on these videos)
I have never seen Bojack Horseman, but I love this character analysis of Diane. It opened my eyes so much and it was real. If this channel was made to make videos with meaning, well, this video is rich in it and I’ve felt it. Thank you for making this.
Honestly I havent found a video of yours I didn't get something from. Your analysis skills are incredible and you present your views in clear and welcoming fashion. Even in the rare instances where I disagree with you I fully respect where you are coming from. I am not an artist by any metric of the word. But your discussions on it gives me a better understanding of my friends who are.
This was a lot of fun to listen to and I look forward to the next one. Also, the drawing of Diane looks fantastic and I love how you did the lights for the buildings in the background.
I LOOOOVVVEEEEEE this take! Usually people see this alternate book that Diane made as Diane finally loosening up or “growing”. But no one I’ve listened to except you understood that this was not a positive or negative. It was a consensus. It wasn’t growth or lack of growth, she simply pivoted, and there’s grief in that. It’s realistic and she can find meaning in this new thing, but it comes with grief. It is as you said, bittersweet.
I would absolutely love to see more of these types of videos! Pretty art, analyses about shows and characters I love, plus fairly long-form videos that I can watch while drawing?? Yes please!
Just got yourself another subscriber! I have to rewatch Bojack because your entire video moved me to tears as this struggle is still within me as a creative person.
This series of analysis about fictional characters sounds such a nice idea! I'a curious on what you will talk about next! I haven't seen "Bojack Horseman" but I still find it interesting:)
I loved this video and love videos about things that break down characters. And you did it so well, and as an artist I genuinely feel seen, so than you.
This video created a need I didn't have 30 minutes ago. I never watched this show, but I quite enjoyed it. I find the way you discuss things very captivating no matter the topic. Looking forward to the next one! ♥ To anyone who may read this, take care and drink water! Or maybe some tea.
Maybe it’s because I’m also an artist but I just wanna say, I’d rather read your webcomic about a personal experience/original story than see genshin fan art x) so I’ll be checking out your webtoon now. thanks as always for the video, keep making art you love♥️
So, so, so glad I got to view this video somewhat early. I love your videos so much, and how I feel about this video is no different. You give me so much motivation to try and work harder to become an art-content creator!/gen
Celestia this video was amazing, I relate to the fame vs meaning struggles a lot! And I wish you success making your webcomic and the art you find meaningful! I'm not sure if you accept suggestions overall, but can I leave one? I love the topics you talk about in your videos, but sometimes I feel like there's a lot of information to take in all at once, it gets a little hard to remember everything ;; I think if you explained the topic a little slowly, or by making small pauses in the video here and there, these pauses to "breath" would help people feel more immersed and overall understand better the message you're trying to convey, but of course it's just a suggestion, at the end of the day, your videos are yours, so the most important thing is how you like making them!
Although I do really appreciate this analysis series and concept, and definitely will watch more... ...I would really love to also see more of your webcomic, please?
If you want to be paid for your work you have to produce something that people want to pay for, not whatever you want to make. This is true for any creative job.
I liked your take on being a creative and how it affects Diane way of life, but i dont agree with the last part. I dont think Diane was defeated in the end by not writing her book of essays, i think the first reason for why she couldnt write about it was because Diane arc was about identity and identity confusion and she just did not had the answer she need it to put her story into a coherent piece of narrative, saying it in other way, Diane its very analitical and can often have strong and well tougth opinions about things and people but througth all the show she couldnt form a coherent opinion of herself and often struggle with understanding herself, i think its possible that in the future she can do this. And also i think that writing from the perspective of this character help her do that, i think its implied that through Moose and Ivy she is sort of talking about her relationship with Bojack, Ivy is moving to a new state and adaptin to that change and also she is vietnamis american. I think that this book help her ask the question about herself and exposing this question in a safe and coherent way, i dont think PC tricks her when she say that maybe that book can do that too. Because in a way not writing her book of essay wasnt about her just comforming with the system (i think that writing something that actually harms u for the pressure of a agent would be doing exactly that, and her book of essays WAS harming her) i think her decision to not doing it reflected her beign okey with not being define by her damage, to her acepting that its okay to want to be happy
ok i have to watch this show, thought it was just another animated show made for ratings, seems i was wrong (not that shows made for ratings are always bad)
Wannabe writer and someone that has spent more money then i care to admit in warhammer, would a potential anseer to this dilema be blending the two? X-men was done in an attempt to talk about racism and later evolved into a discuttion about the issiues LGBTQ+ people deal with. The land Before Time is a fun adve ture with baby dinosours but when you think about it its also very on the nose about not judging people based on appearance and making friends no matter what they look like (even adoption is brought up). Even the Guardians of the Galexy films have strong themes of found family and moving past old traumas that haunt you. Or wouod you need to spend some time, even if some is the optimal word, on a passion project?
Even if formats like this don’t get enough views as your other videos, please don’t stop making them, they are super insightful and interesting!🫶🏻Also it’s very refreshing to see videos about media that aren’t outrage driven or inherently negative!
The way Diane is drawn and talked about here makes it look like she completed a self-rewarding journey and ended up with a badass aura.
I personally don't want excessive fame. I just want to do something I love and make enough of a living so I can live a comfortable life. In fact the notion fame and excessive wealth, due to how it seems to change people for the absolute worst, terrifies me.
Same
Me too! I’m honestly horrified of getting too famous!
Yes, this!
The story of Diane terrifies me. I have never seen Bojack Horseman, but from how you explained Diane's character arc made me think about how I want to someday make webcomics and video games that have meaning and tell a deep, compelling, and kinda dark story. I'm scared that I won't be able to work on those stories because my life as an adult will be too hectic and I'll be too busy focusing on the art that makes money. But I don't want to lose these stories, the characters, the worlds, or the messages they have, because I've worked hard on them, many of them for at least five years. I'm only in college now and still a minor by a few months, so I'm not particularly pressed for time, but it still give me anxiety because time flies and I might run out of it before I even realize it, and where would I be then?
I have no idea if this is going to help you or have the opposite effect. I'm 37, and the stories and unexplored art ideas I carry with me have been with me since I was in high school. That's well over 20 years that I haven't turned these stories into something. There were times it made me so depressed and anxious... Ironically enough, this show brought me out of that. It taught me that even if your plans and dreams don't work out exactly as you want them to, you can still find fulfillment and happiness. You can change your mind and it's okay. You can one day decide that you don't enjoy this anymore and move on to something else, only to find yourself coming back to it later. I enjoy doing this as a hobby NOW while working in a completely different field, instead of feeling pressured to monetize and capitalize every single idea I've ever had.
Don't follow the pressure. Follow your joy.
@@FeministCatwomanthis is the conclusion I came to as well. I currently am working as a freelance artist which helps pay the bills, while all my personal projects are free from the burden of “making what sells” and stuff! It’s not quite as simple as that for everyone, and even I have additional issues that kinda hinder my creativity a bit (mainly issues with focusing) but it’s perhaps the best option a lot of creatives have for the most part!
As a artist I’ve also had this dilemma Yeah, I don’t do art professionally but sometimes think to make the stuff that the algorithm will promote other than the stuff I want to do.
Man, this hits hard for me too. I've been trying hard to push some of my original art for 2 years now. No matter how much I improve, no matter how many hours I dump into a project, no matter how much emotion I put in my art, no matter how technically impressive it is, no matter what program I use, and how challenging it is to use it.
Nobody. Freaking. Cares.
But as soon as I draw a little bit of fan-art then all of a sudden everyone jumps on board, pretends my old stuff doesn't exist, and expects me to do it again.
I hate life...
If you want to be popular you have to make what people want, you can't just make what you want and expect other people to like it.
@@uanime1
In a way yeah, you're right but also how did some artists become so popular with their OCs?
I am thinking of pivoting my focus next year. It's gonna be all fan-art with a few little OC doodles thrown in there because I can't completely let go of them. Maybe that'll be better? Who knows at this point.
@@thepuzzlemaster64
"how did some artists become so popular with their OCs?"
The most common way is using nudity, followed by attractive women in skimpy costumes. After that it's short comics and humour. Fetishes can also work, such as furries or goths. Basically you have to look at what most people search for when looking for OCs.
"It's gonna be all fan-art with a few little OC doodles thrown in there because I can't completely let go of them."
Good idea. Make sure the fan art compliments your OCs, for example if you're drawing Teen Titan fan art most people won't care about your Dilbert OCs but would like other teen OCs.
i very much get where you’re coming from, social media/online platforms is a hell of a rocky slope to climb. i’m not sure what to say bc i haven’t cracked the code either, but i wish you good luck on your journey, and be sure to take it easy on yourself ^
@@fivetopoint
Thanks! For me it feels like you need to be at the right place at the right time to get a little bit of success, but even then it's finicky and brief.
Like one time I drew fanart of this artist I liked, and it got super popular. I drew another one a few days later and it got no attention at all.
Another one I did that frustrated came from a Klonoa fanart I made a good while ago. The WIP that only showed 1/8th of the full drawing got more attention than the final piece. All because I posted the WIP the day the Klonoa demo came-out (which I didn't know about).
Also both of those got me next to no followers on Twitter either, so it was only a brief high followed by disappointment.
But yeah, thanks again for the kind words. Bit tough to take a break in the final month of the year, but I know to rest a little when it gets too rough.
i legit think bojack horseman is one of the best shows ever, i can't get enough of people's perspectives on it!! would love to see more of this sorta video from you celestia
The first 3 seasons were good, then it started to fall apart.
@@uanime1 no actually it got even better as time went on
@@potatopotayto8332
"it got even better as time went on"
Todd became pointless, Diane became even more insufferable, the number of dropped sub-plots increased, and Bojack kept regressing because the show needed more wacky humour. So it actually got worse.
@@uanime1 that is a VERY backwards way to look at the show. the character development was great (yes bojack became a worse person but that was the point of the show, and it took on a very serious tone so no it wasn't for "wacky humor") , we had some of the best episodes, the overarching plots and subplots were great even if there weren't many (the fact _that's_ what you value tells me a lot about you) and we got an amazing ending that fits the show very well.
sorry if you don't have the critical thinking skills to like the latter seasons of bojack horseman. also hey you're saying that "diane got even more insufferable" under a video about DIANE'S DEVELOPMENT?? like did you not watch it ooorrrr...?
you have the right to have that opinion, but looking at your reasoning, it's a rather stupid one!
@@potatopotayto8332
"that is a VERY backwards way to look at the show."
I provided reasons why the show got worse.
"the character development was great"
What development? Todd becoming asexual and nothing plot-related related being done with this. Everything that happened with Mr Peanutbutter's family affected nothing. That actress Bojack strangled. Ethan Around.
"it took on a very serious tone so no it wasn't for "wacky humor""
Wrong. One example of this was in season 4 after Sarah Lynn died of a drug overdose and they were still making jokes about Bojack doing drugs, even though he got clean after spending a year in a cabin. The show had to reference how stupid this was in season 5 during a talk with Dr Wu.
And let's not forget that time Todd's stupidity resulted in a bunch of clown dentists getting rabies. For some reason the show doesn't want you to think of Todd as a bad person for being worse than Bojack.
"the overarching plots and subplots were great"
Until they randomly dropped them, such as the "Ethan Around" show.
"we got an amazing ending that fits the show very well."
They had to retcon Bojack killing Sarah Lynn because that strangling subplot in season 5 went nowhere. In a season where billionaires can legally kill people, yet no one cares about that.
"sorry if you don't have the critical thinking skills to like the latter seasons of bojack horseman."
My critical thinking is why I can tell how the show fell apart because it focused on nonsense. Your lack of them is why you claim it was good but can't explain why.
"you're saying that "diane got even more insufferable" under a video about DIANE'S DEVELOPMENT??"
She developed into a worse person, like Bojack.
"you have the right to have that opinion, but looking at your reasoning, it's a rather stupid one!"
I noticed you didn't provide any reasons why Diane was meant to be a good character. I guess you're the stupid one for failing to realise this.
Bojack has been a series I’ve been avoiding for years because I NEED people to get better. I NEED to see lives improve.
But your analysis of Diane made me sit and and be like “Huh. When does later come?”
I have spent so much of my life trying to make money and monetize my hobbies instead of just like, DOING them. I find fulfillment in my hobbies, then ruin them by trying to turn them into something that I can make cash off of. If you do something you love, you never work a day in your life, right? Wrong.
I decided two weeks ago that I wanted to make a webcomic and just show my world off. Then, I got it in my head that maybe I should be making money off it. This analysis kinda made me realize that I gotta do something that fulfills me simply because it fulfills me. I don’t wanna be ten years into the future going “damn, Shoulda done the thing when I had the chance.”
I have a chance now. Gonna do the thing. Thanks.
I hope your webcomic is going well and that you're having fun making it! :)
Good Damage's message resonated so much with me. Like Diane, I also dreamed of writing a story based on my trauma to resonate with people who went through something similar. But you don't have to write about that to resonate with these people! Writing about something positive can just as easily bring them comfort and help them through their hard times. In fact, most of the media that brought me comfort during mine are positive. Just because your story is not deep doesn't mean it won't be meaningful to someone out there.
It’s really unfortunate that at the age of 13 is when I started to realize that I needed to draw what was popular before posting art I wanted to make and do for myself :’D being a people pleaser doesn’t help with that at all, as now I’m working on 4 things, sprites for games and an animation way before I could do anything for myself, it sucks, and I admit I click on things I’d rather see than waht the content creator is more passionate about, not to say I’m guilty for the things I’d rather consume, but more that I want to see how other people think instead, rather than what I want
Honestly this was something I’d never considered with her arc. That might be because I haven’t watched bojack in it’s entirety, I’ve only watched it when someone else is watching it, but that’s a really beautiful and bittersweet story from Diane.
It's SUCH a good show! But it gets so heavy at times
Let's comment for algorithm. I love these kinds of analysis. I do get tired of controversial topics.
This is one of the most worrying things for me, if I ever do end up becoming popular for my Art. Currently I wish to keep making what I want to, and I wouldn't want to change if I ever became famous.
You really hit the nail on the head with this video, Stove Guest Barrister!
I'm going to be watching the week my brother got me hooked on this show it's one of my favorite shows that Netflix has ever made.
As a full time artist through my social media following, & person of past child abuse who also cut out their father out, Diane's story hits SO close to home...
I've always been a traditional artist, transforming pain into art that meant something to me, my BEST pieces being made when I was at my lowest. Just like Diane did, Id actively keep myself in that bad head space so I could produce something "good". And, just like Diane, made something else from a moment of fun curiosity that resulted in LARGE public demand and adoration. It wasn't traditional art, it wasn't deeply connected to the pain in my past, and it wasn't made from turning trauma into art. It was just silly little fantasy fashion chokers.
Toughout Diane's entire story it's shown that she believes for something to have meaning, it has to be created through a struggle. Even when she's given opportunities to make or be part of something that affects others in a way that could help, but it's not a struggle and instead rather simple, she has a HARD time accepting it as meaningful. The song she accidentally helped Sextina create in the abort episode being a good example imo. Sextina didn't "struggle" to make it, and didn't have to have an abortion. The tone wasn't dark or demanding, but fun and enjoyable song. Which is why Diane had a VERY hard time believing it was meaningful/helpful to those going through a struggle.
It's a great contrast to her character development when she finally accepts that what she makes doesn't have to come from her trauma/ pain to be meaningful. It's the conversation she has with PC about damage that broke me down to tears as I realized just how similar my experiences as a woman, a child abuse survivor, and artist are to her story.
Her story helps stop me from questioning my work now. It can be hard when something we as artists have fun making gets seen by hundreds of thousands of people or sometimes millions when it's a piece that just came from having a good time. It leaves you thinking "if I had made something from my trauma for this post instead, think of all the people who would have seen it instead of this silly fun thing."
But it's OK to embrace happiness. Art is no less valid when made from moving forward. Sometimes as artists we hold tight to pain and trauma because we believe it makes us better creatives, and the thing (art) that once helped us deal with our trauma, become what prevents us from moving on from it.
Diane's story helped me change that.
F*ck sorry didn't realize how long that was.
But yeah, I don't think Diane would have gotten the "satisfying end" to channeling her trauma through her book of essays if she wrote it. I think it was a tool to hold onto her pain and not move on from it because, as she said herself, going through what she did made her "special". And without that, she wouldn't be special anymore in her eyes.
This thing you said when you mentioned GI (I just say it this way bc it's easy to find what I'm talking about) is so relative, like, yeah, a fanart of GI would give you more views effortlessly almost, but deep in your heart you know that even if you get only 25 likes in your original art, every time, those 25 ppl are there FOR YOU, for your style, for the real value of your Craft, not just for the posing moment one uses fanart to feed our ego or just not feel like nobody appreciates us. My twitter is full of a certain ship from GI, and then, GI is so niche (I suspect so niche that the reason why they don't make any more collabs is that no other game or series will get any benefit from it) that even when you draw a ship content, the moment you draw a different chara FROM THE SAME GAME, it gets ignored anyways, if this happens with the game's charas themselves, imagine how ignored my original art gets, if I have 100 likes in an original piece I'm surprised that they actually liked it so much 👀 (but that's one of my twitters, on another Twitter of mine, I get asked for commissions fortunately and on IG I've made some ppl like some of my OCs even if they don't know what their personality or lore is like, and that's a big deal to me ❤️)
What I mean with this is: make ppl get to know you for what you actually love doing, it's not easy, but it's rewarding, HOWEVER one thing I learnt from psychologysts is that doing only what we love ALWAYS eventually makes us hate what we love, because we can't live in a constant happiness, the brain is not releasing more dopamine by doing just things we love, so eventually it doesn't feel rewarding anymore. SO my advice is: do work on things you dont like but that helps you grow anyways from time to time, without leaving what you love behind, because say you DON'T like drawing GI fanart, but upon studying the style or amount of details, the way the hair of each character is shaped, the way they shade skin etc, you learn things and you post it and you get followers, imagine that 1 out of 100 new followers actually just likes your style, you get many advantages from this:
-you distract yourself from the constant need to be happy doing what you love SO THAT you love that thing more every time you go back
- you learn tips and tricks and apply them on your characters (like the hair shape thing)
-you get ppl to know you
- you don't feel like you're wasting your time (bc you're learning new things) and learn about ppl's perspectives when they comment (specially if you make lil silly comics)
PD : I clicked this video because it was YOU, because I havent watched bojack horseman, I may watch it someday, but the first thing that made me watch this video was the fact that it was YOU, not a controversy, not a fandom ❤️(no parasocial xD, I just appreciate your work on these videos)
I have never seen Bojack Horseman, but I love this character analysis of Diane. It opened my eyes so much and it was real. If this channel was made to make videos with meaning, well, this video is rich in it and I’ve felt it. Thank you for making this.
Honestly I havent found a video of yours I didn't get something from. Your analysis skills are incredible and you present your views in clear and welcoming fashion. Even in the rare instances where I disagree with you I fully respect where you are coming from. I am not an artist by any metric of the word. But your discussions on it gives me a better understanding of my friends who are.
This video was so good! Now that I myself am aiming for the creative field, I really want to rewatch Bojack after this.
I love the way you drew Diane ^^ -> also yes, please make more content like this, it's so good
This was a lot of fun to listen to and I look forward to the next one. Also, the drawing of Diane looks fantastic and I love how you did the lights for the buildings in the background.
I LOOOOVVVEEEEEE this take!
Usually people see this alternate book that Diane made as Diane finally loosening up or “growing”. But no one I’ve listened to except you understood that this was not a positive or negative. It was a consensus. It wasn’t growth or lack of growth, she simply pivoted, and there’s grief in that. It’s realistic and she can find meaning in this new thing, but it comes with grief. It is as you said, bittersweet.
I would absolutely love to see more of these types of videos! Pretty art, analyses about shows and characters I love, plus fairly long-form videos that I can watch while drawing?? Yes please!
Just got yourself another subscriber! I have to rewatch Bojack because your entire video moved me to tears as this struggle is still within me as a creative person.
I really loved this and if it makes you happy, I'd be delighted to see more like it!
I did really love this! I look forward to more, but especially more about Bojack Horseman. Thanks for uploading!
I can't wait for the next episode of this!
This series of analysis about fictional characters sounds such a nice idea! I'a curious on what you will talk about next! I haven't seen "Bojack Horseman" but I still find it interesting:)
cant wait to see more of this series! i really like the style of it
Beautiful art piece 😍😊
It's been amazing watching your art style evolve since you earliest videos, you've grown so much in such a short amount of time
I loved this video and love videos about things that break down characters. And you did it so well, and as an artist I genuinely feel seen, so than you.
Honestly loved this video, it really insightful and gives me some deeper meanings to look inside of myself
thank you for making this. i can not wait for part 2!
This video created a need I didn't have 30 minutes ago. I never watched this show, but I quite enjoyed it. I find the way you discuss things very captivating no matter the topic. Looking forward to the next one! ♥ To anyone who may read this, take care and drink water! Or maybe some tea.
Maybe it’s because I’m also an artist but I just wanna say, I’d rather read your webcomic about a personal experience/original story than see genshin fan art x) so I’ll be checking out your webtoon now. thanks as always for the video, keep making art you love♥️
So, so, so glad I got to view this video somewhat early. I love your videos so much, and how I feel about this video is no different. You give me so much motivation to try and work harder to become an art-content creator!/gen
Dang...this makes me wanna go back and rewatch Bojack!
love the video!
i love bojack horseman and your content, i got so happy when i saw this
Awsome video, good things to think about as an artist
Yooooooooooooo Bojack video from one of my favorite art chanels!!!
I love at a lot of your videos, but definitely loved this one!
i liked this!
Celestia this video was amazing, I relate to the fame vs meaning struggles a lot! And I wish you success making your webcomic and the art you find meaningful!
I'm not sure if you accept suggestions overall, but can I leave one? I love the topics you talk about in your videos, but sometimes I feel like there's a lot of information to take in all at once, it gets a little hard to remember everything ;; I think if you explained the topic a little slowly, or by making small pauses in the video here and there, these pauses to "breath" would help people feel more immersed and overall understand better the message you're trying to convey, but of course it's just a suggestion, at the end of the day, your videos are yours, so the most important thing is how you like making them!
rehab was supposed to be a fresh start 🐴
all jokes aside love ur art!!
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Although I do really appreciate this analysis series and concept, and definitely will watch more...
...I would really love to also see more of your webcomic, please?
If you want to be paid for your work you have to produce something that people want to pay for, not whatever you want to make. This is true for any creative job.
commenting for the algorithm ^_^
Artist vs Artiste'
I liked your take on being a creative and how it affects Diane way of life, but i dont agree with the last part. I dont think Diane was defeated in the end by not writing her book of essays, i think the first reason for why she couldnt write about it was because Diane arc was about identity and identity confusion and she just did not had the answer she need it to put her story into a coherent piece of narrative, saying it in other way, Diane its very analitical and can often have strong and well tougth opinions about things and people but througth all the show she couldnt form a coherent opinion of herself and often struggle with understanding herself, i think its possible that in the future she can do this. And also i think that writing from the perspective of this character help her do that, i think its implied that through Moose and Ivy she is sort of talking about her relationship with Bojack, Ivy is moving to a new state and adaptin to that change and also she is vietnamis american. I think that this book help her ask the question about herself and exposing this question in a safe and coherent way, i dont think PC tricks her when she say that maybe that book can do that too. Because in a way not writing her book of essay wasnt about her just comforming with the system (i think that writing something that actually harms u for the pressure of a agent would be doing exactly that, and her book of essays WAS harming her) i think her decision to not doing it reflected her beign okey with not being define by her damage, to her acepting that its okay to want to be happy
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ok i have to watch this show, thought it was just another animated show made for ratings, seems i was wrong (not that shows made for ratings are always bad)
9 minutes ago yippee!!!
Wannabe writer and someone that has spent more money then i care to admit in warhammer, would a potential anseer to this dilema be blending the two?
X-men was done in an attempt to talk about racism and later evolved into a discuttion about the issiues LGBTQ+ people deal with.
The land Before Time is a fun adve ture with baby dinosours but when you think about it its also very on the nose about not judging people based on appearance and making friends no matter what they look like (even adoption is brought up). Even the Guardians of the Galexy films have strong themes of found family and moving past old traumas that haunt you.
Or wouod you need to spend some time, even if some is the optimal word, on a passion project?
Even if formats like this don’t get enough views as your other videos, please don’t stop making them, they are super insightful and interesting!🫶🏻Also it’s very refreshing to see videos about media that aren’t outrage driven or inherently negative!