Path of Exile: Introducing the Currency Exchange Market

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • During our Settlers of Kalguur livestream we revealed the new Currency Exchange Market. Before it opens up, we wanted to walk you through the basics.

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  • @Darkblade8844
    @Darkblade8844 2 месяца назад +1176

    The best part about this for me is not longer having to buy WAY more then I need just because people dont want to do a bunch of small trades. This is a game changer and I really hope it is received well because I 1000% think this has a place in PoE's future.

    • @ex3maJI
      @ex3maJI 2 месяца назад +12

      so true!

    • @AlucardNoir
      @AlucardNoir 2 месяца назад +8

      So, hate to break it to you but... Notice how there's a ratio? Yeah, depending on that you're still going to have to buy more that you'd need, though not by the same volume you used to have to.

    • @ChrisWhiton
      @ChrisWhiton 2 месяца назад +22

      Yeah but you could "sell" your currency for your desired currency at any ratio you want instead of buying.

    • @misinnio
      @misinnio 2 месяца назад +50

      ​​@@AlucardNoirtheres ratio because different orbs have different values, duh.
      To buy 1 chaos orb you have to give 15 alteration orbs, to buy 1 alternation orb with chaos orb you have to give 1/15 of chaos which is impossible

    • @pt9373
      @pt9373 2 месяца назад +24

      @@AlucardNoir There's absolutely no indication you need to buy more than you need

  • @danielrubin7228
    @danielrubin7228 2 месяца назад +1715

    Holy shit I just realized that if you want to get on here and flip and manipulate the currency market you need gold. To get gold you actually have to play the game! BRILLIANT GG.

    • @Sal_McCoy
      @Sal_McCoy 2 месяца назад +508

      You also can't list at lower prices and refuse to trade anymore.

    • @harielkops3287
      @harielkops3287 2 месяца назад +126

      @@Sal_McCoy this is i believe is the more important thing, imagine if you could list bonds at lower prices and refused to fulfill trades at the bond market

    • @erutherford
      @erutherford 2 месяца назад +15

      The idea is good but I don't like the idea that it will be "difficult" to do trades in the early league. I'd rather a certain [moderate?] level of trading be almost-free but with costs going up significantly for high volume traders

    • @maurock7983
      @maurock7983 2 месяца назад +175

      @@erutherford they didnt say early league,it's early campaign, and idk about you but i basically dont trade before act 4-5 ever

    • @rusudenes8549
      @rusudenes8549 2 месяца назад

      @@erutherford calm your tits, this is just a test

  • @Drakarys
    @Drakarys 2 месяца назад +46

    11 years. I waited for this for 11 years. And it's beautiful. 😭

    • @DayElven
      @DayElven 2 месяца назад +6

      Now we just need to wait another 11 years until they add a similar thing for items trade.

  • @waldro3579
    @waldro3579 2 месяца назад +1235

    Similar to the Popular tab, I would love to see favourites. E.g. If i run an atlas strategy and often buy the same scarabs I'd love to just click on them instantly instead of searching for them first.

    • @zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz__
      @zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz__ 2 месяца назад +11

      yessssssssssssssss

    • @xiayu9451
      @xiayu9451 2 месяца назад

      @@yomanyo327 bannable

    • @ZeroiusProduction
      @ZeroiusProduction 2 месяца назад +2

      That's a good idea.

    • @Xirpzy
      @Xirpzy 2 месяца назад +1

      I prefer that over the popular tab tbh. I dont like how the popular tab pretty much forces us into a certain direction. Game knowledge will not be needed anymore.

    • @manuakasam
      @manuakasam 2 месяца назад +12

      @@Xirpzy "Game knowledge will not be needed anymore." - had a good laugh
      It only indicated how fast one could expect the trade to go on. It simply means setting up a trade for Divine Armor scraps is unlikely gonna yield quick results. No more, no less. How this is taking away ANYTHING from game knowledge is beyond my comprehension.
      IF the market is seen as popular and will survive this league, then a favourites feature might be doable in the future, though I wouldn't hold my breath for it. Sadly, as I, too, would love to see favourites.

  • @Jaigarful
    @Jaigarful 2 месяца назад +231

    1:04 I love the art of that panel.

    • @Shepherdize
      @Shepherdize 2 месяца назад +3

      the exchanging traderrrrr

    • @Dogzz59
      @Dogzz59 2 месяца назад +11

      Yeah, me too. It feels is like medieval wall paintings, very very accurate

    • @homybo5669
      @homybo5669 2 месяца назад +1

      Real

    • @pierrenoel6878
      @pierrenoel6878 2 месяца назад +2

      Its remind me of the game pentiment by obsidian.

    • @viktoracs4045
      @viktoracs4045 2 месяца назад +2

      i love poe 1 little arts on the ui, i hope they will continue it in poe 2, the footage i have already seen seems missing the same spirit

  • @SWHHReice
    @SWHHReice 2 месяца назад +1028

    "help us determine if this has a place in PoE in the future"
    The pure *backlash* against taking it away would be an all-time 'shooting yourself in the foot' moment.

    • @speakman1111
      @speakman1111 2 месяца назад +154

      ah, I see you're new here

    • @raffy141
      @raffy141 2 месяца назад +39

      @@speakman1111 He'll learn eventually, don't worrie.

    • @n91312
      @n91312 2 месяца назад +79

      We waited 10 years for this, I'll eat my shoe if they remove it

    • @MrRafagigapr
      @MrRafagigapr 2 месяца назад +6

      It will be back just like harvest came back

    • @DaJodad
      @DaJodad 2 месяца назад +15

      ​@@MrRafagigaprI mean it DID come back and honestly that was the problem

  • @BrotherBillOG
    @BrotherBillOG 2 месяца назад +45

    I love the detail they added to the market area. Crazy how much time they invest knowing players will just add him to the hideout.

    • @crazy338866
      @crazy338866 2 месяца назад +4

      That's not the only purpose of the room. I think the guy in thr back corner of the room hires workers for you.

    • @BrotherBillOG
      @BrotherBillOG 2 месяца назад

      @@crazy338866 Oh sweet. Looks like a cool area to visit.

    • @whuzzzup
      @whuzzzup 2 месяца назад +8

      That market area (the whole town) is the new minigame for this league...

    • @turiel86
      @turiel86 2 месяца назад +3

      They already had the assets from PoE2 so why not use them? :) Kingsmarch is an actual town in PoE2 and we get to build it this league.

  • @daruqz2247
    @daruqz2247 2 месяца назад +17

    It's very nice having videos about mechanics and an explanation for how they work from the game company, I really like this. If you can I would love to have more of this in the future!

  • @ed04ruthy
    @ed04ruthy 2 месяца назад +70

    It's like playing with a stock market. No more waiting in h/o, it's just gonna fill it for you. This is simply amazing.

    • @Fayzon11
      @Fayzon11 2 месяца назад

      But its not, in a stock market i can see the value of something. Here its ggg's recomended value, meaning we are just guessing at what to sell and buy at. Very poorly thought out.

    • @MadMaxJuggernaut
      @MadMaxJuggernaut 2 месяца назад +4

      @@Fayzon11 not really, prices will follow a pattern based on every other league. We know exalts aren't worth so much early on and later they are. There will most likely be some API to see the prices online and so on

    • @Netherhunter
      @Netherhunter 2 месяца назад +13

      @@Fayzon11 The values you see is what other players listed the trades at. You can list at same ratio for insta fulfillment or at your own ratio.

    • @Fayzon11
      @Fayzon11 2 месяца назад

      @@MadMaxJuggernaut
      "We know exalts aren't worth so much early on and later they are" - No, you know that, I know that but timmy with less than 500hrs wont.
      "There will most likely be some API to see the prices online and so on" - Highly unlikely, they are not going to poll 3rd party websites for info. That causes way to meny dependencies for future use.
      -They are probably going to referance their own database but who knows how that going to work. Will it build the recomended ratio based on all active listings over time for the league? This means that the price wont acurately reflect current value. Doubtful but never rule out peoples ability to implement something poorly.
      -Maybe they will just referance the cheapest current 100 or 1000 and update the ratio every x minutes? Database lookups get expensive though once a table grows too large so update times may vary or even break depending on how the tables are indexed and wether data is disposed of. This is likely what they will do but I still dont think its good even if it works well.
      -We should be able to "browse" all sell orders of the item we want to buy displayed as cheapest ratio to most expensive ratio. The exact same as the current currency trade site works.
      Otherwise by the looks of it we are changing the (I have) one by one and then looking at the recommended ratios and hoping we are buying/ selling at the best going ratetrusting GGG or worse, still having to go referance websites to determine whats a good ratio wich will probably be more scuffed than usual due to normal trade having less real legitiate players listing stuff.

    • @courtingdeath3364
      @courtingdeath3364 2 месяца назад +8

      @@MadMaxJuggernautHe is just mad he can’t commit high way Robbery. I am gonna assume all the clowns whining about this are price fixers. They should cry more.

  • @sabihrashid252
    @sabihrashid252 2 месяца назад +149

    Thank you Last Epoch for helping convince GGG this is something players really want.

    • @Sindamsc
      @Sindamsc 2 месяца назад +6

      I mean, this looks 1000x times better than awful LE trade system, not even touching duping gold and hyper inflated economy on day 1

    • @KazaiTV
      @KazaiTV 2 месяца назад +17

      That might have been a small factor but i think the main reason is that Mark is now in control. He isn't affraid of taking chances and risks not to mention that Chris was the one pushing his "vision" all these years and not budging on it.

    • @mostpolitebot1464
      @mostpolitebot1464 2 месяца назад +32

      nah it's the 100 people who didn't reply to mark when he wanted to buy his catalyst haha

    • @MrRafagigapr
      @MrRafagigapr 2 месяца назад +4

      @@sabihrashid252 i love how GGG allways overestimated the competency of their competition and comes out with a better system in the end , last epoch devs really thought you need more experience to trade unique items than the exp needed to get to level100 lmao

    • @Smilence03
      @Smilence03 2 месяца назад

      @@KazaiTV what is chris doing now? retiring? if he is not in charge, then what does he do nowadays?

  • @levagabond4464
    @levagabond4464 2 месяца назад +162

    I waited for this 4 years ! Hope this experimental will be good and you will change mind and make it in standard too

    • @Berkelll
      @Berkelll 2 месяца назад +34

      I waited for this like 8-9 years, holy shit. Next they need to do full auction house when we could do that with items.

    • @BonyaDK
      @BonyaDK 2 месяца назад +16

      @@firelordkushroll based from the looks of it, we should thank Mark for this. He is actually playing the game therefore proposes solutions that we actually need, instead of +2 radius to cleave.

    • @beavizbivrator
      @beavizbivrator 2 месяца назад +14

      11 years

    • @Enzo-kb4oj
      @Enzo-kb4oj 2 месяца назад +3

      I think that this will be in standard next league, when this mechanic becomes a core mechanic. Have sense.

    • @coachmcguirk8277
      @coachmcguirk8277 2 месяца назад

      ​@@firelordkushroll ​I imagine their "gaslighting" was because a better trade system implied a more automated one (like this) which meant less player interaction. They wanted to emulate the magic that was trading in D2, and player interaction was a huge part of that. That being said, I think I'll enjoy this new system as the player interaction was already abysmal. PoE doesn't force you to host/join lobbies, which I think is what enabled D2 to have such a fun, community-building trading system. Unfortunately, I don't think PoE can ever really achieve that without drastic changes.
      Also, I think quality of life features can be dangerous to a game and GGG is very aware of this. It's common for bored players to request features that ultimately dumb down a game, and they do so because they're tired of doing the same old repetitive tasks. They're 1k+ hours into a game and don't want to do X, Y, and Z anymore but they aren't thinking about new players or people who haven't played as much as them. Those people likely still enjoy those features so it's a two-way street. That's why it's dangerous for developers to cave in to these requests and is part of the reason why things like OSR and WoW classic exist - because the games traded too much of their original identity for QoL (among other reasons). I respect GGG for being aware of this, sometimes what you think is objectively good for a game could be the very thing that leads to it's downfall.

  • @Enragedmonkey8
    @Enragedmonkey8 2 месяца назад +94

    Similar to the popular section , a favorites option would be great , so I can instantly select the scarabs I'm currently running or fossils I'm frequently buying for a craft.

    • @TheTimtam112
      @TheTimtam112 2 месяца назад +4

      Or so that I can remember what ratio I've been selling my Harvest Lifeforce for.
      Maybe a "recent trades" panel? If I want to make the same trade again, I can just click it and it autofills the information for me

    • @whuzzzup
      @whuzzzup 2 месяца назад +3

      @@yomanyo327 Certainly, but theoretically not allowed. And an ingame solution would be better for every player anyway.

    • @Valdorian-u5x
      @Valdorian-u5x 2 месяца назад +1

      Theres a search function, I guess you can use a regex string for that? I'm pretty sure there will be some Awakened PoE Trade function for it very early in the league, or with any other program.

    • @phishmastermike
      @phishmastermike 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Valdorian-u5x if its still going off of trade site values then im sure that awakened poe trade will be good to run with it. i dont think ggg planned to have a controlled market. this does help price fixers tho, but im sure it will go off of trade site since idk where they would get there values for prices.

  • @loveisinportant5570
    @loveisinportant5570 2 месяца назад +283

    This is going to make the game somehow even better. One of the few points of friction was trying to trade niche currency you're trying to use to upgrade/roll gear, and this completely removes most of that friction. Cannot wait.

    • @roguethemachine3928
      @roguethemachine3928 2 месяца назад +9

      most people sold the bad currency / bought just so they could price fix it , knowing price fixing will be harder / close to impossible i dont see people selling portal scrolls and the niche currency as much

    • @greece5055
      @greece5055 2 месяца назад

      ​@@roguethemachine3928 Now that its autotrade, lots of people will just list niche currencies for raw c. Niche currencies will now be sold more than ever.

    • @megadeth116
      @megadeth116 2 месяца назад

      @@roguethemachine3928 you will be able to sell them now and their price should increase. Most of the time when you get request for like 1div for 5k scrolls you dont want to bother to do that even if you listed it and even then its not worth going out of map. This removes it. That is my guess, im not en economy expert

    • @bradjenkins2861
      @bradjenkins2861 2 месяца назад +4

      Now we just need an auction house to sell gear. Id love to be out mapping and have items sold.

    • @ArticulateArena
      @ArticulateArena 2 месяца назад

      aWFUL AWFUL AWFUL. Just let us trade, dude. We have to wait for orders to fill up? we can't just see what's for sale and buy it? that's absolutely awful.
      you realize clicking 10 people to trade is going to be way better than waiting 2 hours for you order to fill right? how stupid are poe players?

  • @grimreepa001
    @grimreepa001 2 месяца назад +12

    I never used to sell currency because it was too much faff, but this eliminates that part and no more hunting for a sinlge div! Well and truly needed GGG, nice one!

  • @joshuahensley9395
    @joshuahensley9395 2 месяца назад +201

    Are we being used as alpha/beta testers for PoE 2?
    Yes
    Do I care?
    No
    This shit is awesome.

    • @vincentFGC
      @vincentFGC 2 месяца назад +11

      let's be real, we've been used as beta testers for years now, were there some rough patches? yeah here and there, but we're still here, because ill always be down to beta test cool shit like this

    • @MorbidEel
      @MorbidEel 2 месяца назад +12

      They pretty much said that in the Q&A. People have also asked about bringing this system to PoE 1. It is both a test for 2 as well as a test to see it will also work in 1

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ 2 месяца назад +2

      I mean yeah anyone playing any live service game or any game currently in "early access" on steam is being used as alpha/beta testers.
      As long as the game is good and continues to be good no one should care.

    • @Peter_Tissot
      @Peter_Tissot 2 месяца назад

      I'm pretty sure we have been used as Lab rats aswell. Testing how far we can tolerate league start mess ups, and unfair RIPs. But, it is either this way... or they will inplant micro chips in us to get the precious data!

    • @3thern
      @3thern 2 месяца назад

      ​@@MorbidEel Yeah an extra point it's impossible to test the market with 1000 people. But this is poe we're used to being beta testers

  • @LifeIMO
    @LifeIMO 2 месяца назад +37

    It’s so refreshing to have people design the game mechanics with players and our experiences in mind. Thank you for finally introducing this awesome feature:)

    • @АлександрБаженов-з4к
      @АлександрБаженов-з4к 2 месяца назад

      Это только первый шаг и проверка механики обмена, а также щелчок по носу всем ботоводам, что раздувают пузырь инфляции в игре, при эом не играя!!!! Обожаю GGG !!!!
      А также это путь к объединению игроков на PC и консолях !!!!

  • @josteves6783
    @josteves6783 2 месяца назад +23

    Best QoL change ever! Can't wait for 3.25 😁

  • @Spcell90
    @Spcell90 2 месяца назад +1

    The best part about this is you don't have 50+ Trades at lower price that simply refuse to trade and maybe just want to manipulate the market prices. I simply love this refreshing change 😊

  • @ukaszw2684
    @ukaszw2684 2 месяца назад +8

    So many years waiting for this, you guys rock.

  • @impo997
    @impo997 2 месяца назад +149

    the worst thing about crafting is that you had to buy tons of one thing, then it wouldnt be enough and you had to whisper another 20 people which wouldnt even respond, and if they finally do you repeat the process 10 times
    this actually makes me want to explore the secrets of crafting instead of just playing full-unique builds

    • @blahblahgdp
      @blahblahgdp 2 месяца назад +10

      Yess this exactly. I got to end game crafting once, made one decently good item then never did it again cause of the trading

    • @kooshappreciator4773
      @kooshappreciator4773 2 месяца назад +1

      If you whisper 20 people for craft materials you are doing something wrong

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ 2 месяца назад

      @@kooshappreciator4773 I mean yes but no. If you are an active POE player you know that the first 10-15~ are price fixers that will not respond but the issue is you never truly know. I've had trades where someone is selling bulk quite a bit cheaper than what others are and they actually accepted the invite. Point is, you shouldn't have to whisper people anyways. The trading system in POE is archaic and has needed this for many many years. Honestly is the biggest pain point of the game. I've legit stopped playing a few leagues because of how absolutely obnoxious trading currencies are. I've needed div to chaos trades or fusing trades or w/e and I legit just end up spam messaging usually around 10~ people until one of them sends me an invite.

    • @Peter_Tissot
      @Peter_Tissot 2 месяца назад +2

      the reason why I dont respond to you when u want to buy my currency... is becoz u have PMed 20 guys in 1 second to do the trade, so when i kill the map monster pack to be safe to reply to u, then u ignore me and trade with someone else!!! This is entiry your fault, and not everyone else!

    • @olelarsen1386
      @olelarsen1386 2 месяца назад +11

      @@Peter_Tissot I mean that can happen but it's way more common to just never get any responses to a lot of your trade requests for exactly this type of items/currency. But what's also great is that I can now sell some of these things without having to go out of my map etc. It's going to make the whole trading experience so, so much better for everyone involved.

  • @Mezion
    @Mezion 2 месяца назад +16

    This is the day that we've ALL been waiting for. Very excited to see this be the precursor to an all around auction house. One can hope 🤞🏼

  • @ericveldman6259
    @ericveldman6259 2 месяца назад +17

    This is bringing me back to the game, been poking my head up for years just to see if a marketplace had been added. Fantastic; will still have to use the boards to buy gear but this alone makes the game worth coming back to.

    • @pikipiki8725
      @pikipiki8725 2 месяца назад +5

      Hope you weren't using forum boards to trade this whole time 😭😭😭

    • @xhexogenx
      @xhexogenx 2 месяца назад +2

      @@pikipiki8725 hahaha this remind me of my forum shop circa 2014 xD

    • @AR-yr5ov
      @AR-yr5ov 2 месяца назад

      dude there's an official trade website with really good search for the gear now

    • @Lucas-GR
      @Lucas-GR 2 месяца назад +5

      BRO USED THE FORUM BOARD TO TRADE ☠☠☠☠☠☠☠

    • @KazaiTV
      @KazaiTV 2 месяца назад

      The reason is stopped playing was the god awful performance. It started with the texture streaming when the game looked like runescape and now with the awful shader compiling that just butchers the games performance.
      (I tested the program "Losless Scaling" and it works wonders, a bit buggy with Awakened Trade tho.)

  • @knicklichtjedi
    @knicklichtjedi 2 месяца назад +30

    Popular section is amazing! Market ratio hover is very useful! Gold gating to get people to play, love it!
    This feature alone makes the league for me!

    • @Asghaad
      @Asghaad 2 месяца назад +1

      this implements at minimum three gates to keep market price fixing bots at bay - first is gold, have to farm that to even be able to buy anything and made only aplicable at higher levels which would force bots to at least clear most of the campaign to be viable
      then the max limit meaning only 10 transfers at any given time which is more than enough for normal player but severely limiting any bulk buyout bot
      and lastly the transfer isnt instant but "over time"
      combine these three together and bot trade fixers would need to run HUNDREDS of leveled up bots that have to spend portion of the time farming for gold to do what tehy currently can achieve with single lvl 1 account

    • @TripleAMF
      @TripleAMF 2 месяца назад

      @@Asghaad transfer isn't over time, you will wait until someone accepts your order, if someone accepts there is no waiting, you got that wrong but close enough with the other two

    • @Asghaad
      @Asghaad 2 месяца назад

      @@TripleAMF no you are mistaken here, there is no "accepting" in the system.
      you set a rate at which you are willing to buy and the "NPC Broker" will OVER TIME pull goods from offers on the market that are within those parameters until the set amount you wanted is met - there is absolutely zero input from the seller, theyr offered goods will be automatically taken from theyr stash and delivered to the buyer
      AT 3:30 in this very video you can see that in action as the order gets slowly filled up over time one tick at the time - whether there was set testing tick rate in the demonstration or this is the expected "speed" these will be fulfilled is not yet explained but it seemed as it was starting slowly then accelerating - first tick was 10, the next was 30 (so +20 or double of the previous value) the next was 60 (so +30 and again double of the previous value) at very regular intervals - first tick at 3:31, the second at 3:36 and the last at 3:41 at exactly 5 second intervals between each other

  • @ooVIDAR
    @ooVIDAR 2 месяца назад +496

    D4: We have a new class
    POE: Hold my Chaos Orb

    • @BlackEcology
      @BlackEcology 2 месяца назад +35

      D4:
      For only:
      Ultimate Edition: $89.99
      Deluxe Edition: $59.99
      Standard Edition: $39.99

    • @phoenixspirit62
      @phoenixspirit62 2 месяца назад +9

      @@BlackEcology800% value

    • @MixMeister5000
      @MixMeister5000 2 месяца назад +22

      Poe players :
      I'm so fragile and insecure so I bash on D4 to make me feel better about myself.
      Get over it already and appreciate both games.

    • @alhtep12
      @alhtep12 2 месяца назад +5

      @@MixMeister5000 people cant play games no more

    • @spbalance
      @spbalance 2 месяца назад +3

      As if a whole new class is not a big deal for ARPGS. It's the same for PoE. GGG also do focused, extensive class reveals for PoE2 - for a reason.

  • @florianizer
    @florianizer 2 месяца назад +56

    I was about to comment on how this would trivialize early game currency rarity, but using the gold cost as a way to gatekeep it is genius. Very nice!

    • @clarkecorvo2692
      @clarkecorvo2692 2 месяца назад +18

      "early game currency rarity" whats that even supposed to mean?
      god i hate parrots 😮‍💨

    • @megadeth116
      @megadeth116 2 месяца назад +2

      mostly to keep out easy access for bots

    • @Maususak
      @Maususak 2 месяца назад

      how? its like poe trade lol

    • @Zaonnn
      @Zaonnn 2 месяца назад +10

      @@clarkecorvo2692 i think that's supposed to mean to keep early game currency as rare drop in early game (alchemy orb is massive in league start for example)

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Zaonnn alchemy orb really isn't massive though? You can't trade it for anything as the very early uniques are priced in chaos. Most builds don't care about the skill gems it unlocks until they get more sockets, which by then alchs are worthelss anyway. And alching random items is bad, you want items with good sockets then craft a resist on it (you can craft on normal items) or use essences for resists/life.

  • @notskrub7013
    @notskrub7013 2 месяца назад +2

    FINALLY. Now we just need a gear trading section. Instead of seeing the perfect item on trade site, but the guy is afk or just non-responsive, you would just buy it from the AH and get the item in your inventory. The other player gets the currency straight to his stash tab while he's afk, making money literally offline, and I get to have my perfect gear piece without having to wait potentially hours.
    Add like a 5 minute delay to the auction house, and a counter of how many people tried to purchase your item within those 5 minutes, so that if you accidentally misprice something, it doesn't get immediately bought by a bot or camper and you have time to fix it.

  • @ofsoundmind28
    @ofsoundmind28 2 месяца назад +63

    Bro. This is the one feature that if they take it away, it would be soul crushing for me. I exchange currency EVERY league, and dealing with bots on trade is beyond painful.

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 2 месяца назад

      The bots are fine, if anything they're the only thing that's kept the economy moving for the past few years

    • @Sol0666
      @Sol0666 2 месяца назад +35

      Not the bots are the painful part, its the real players who never invite.

    • @AlucardNoir
      @AlucardNoir 2 месяца назад +1

      This will only be soul crushing if it's good. We still need to use it in-game to test it.

    • @AlucardNoir
      @AlucardNoir 2 месяца назад +12

      ​@@Sol0666those aren't players they're price fixers.

    • @syahidirhassan4846
      @syahidirhassan4846 2 месяца назад +13

      I rather get bots while trading than an actual ppl that never reply lol... At least with bot tjey reply to u straight away and things would've proceed smoothly...

  • @Posuajants
    @Posuajants 2 месяца назад +1

    Hi Mark Roberts, I love you for implementing the currency exchange market. My sanity salutes you

  • @PoseidonPTH
    @PoseidonPTH 2 месяца назад +233

    What ascendancy is best for a currency exchange market build?

    • @ardeof
      @ardeof 2 месяца назад +144

      Templar, for some reason not wearing pants means better conversion ratios.

    • @latincristo
      @latincristo 2 месяца назад +4

      Cast on death ek berzerker

    • @skrecu2
      @skrecu2 2 месяца назад +8

      trickster

    • @Seriously_Bro.
      @Seriously_Bro. 2 месяца назад +10

      Racist

    • @AzEsmNoob
      @AzEsmNoob 2 месяца назад +3

      Scammer or hideout warrior

  • @Krelin01
    @Krelin01 2 месяца назад +5

    i cant express how long me and friends where hoping/waiting for such a feature. from the bottom of my gamer heart i thank you very very much GGG. pls keep this as a permanent feature. its such a gamechanger that will allow us to focus more on playing the game or interact with other mechanics rather than spend half the day on the trading website and whispering people who will never respond or intentionally price manipulating.
    You Guys are rockin and rollin, greetings from germany! piece

  • @Bodwaizer
    @Bodwaizer 2 месяца назад +168

    Oh hi Mark!

    • @Ghostiar
      @Ghostiar 2 месяца назад

      anyway how's your sex life

  • @KingTUMMAN
    @KingTUMMAN 2 месяца назад

    Can't say how much I love that Medieval art on the UI background, so well crafted.

  • @Gullideggel93
    @Gullideggel93 2 месяца назад +7

    Finally I don't have to waste hours trying to buy currency from people that don't react to trade requests.
    Thank you GGG! Huge time saver.

    • @АлександрБаженов-з4к
      @АлександрБаженов-з4к 2 месяца назад

      Это не только экономия времени, но и куча удобств, предоставляемых игрокам. Обожаю GGG за это!! Ты можешь играть в свое удовольствие и не потратить реальных денег, но когда ты возжелаешь более комфортной игры и покупаешь монеты, то понимаешь, что поступаешь правильно! А игроки что играют в POE на постоянной основе могут поддержать разработчиков и прикупить для своих персонажей новых вещей. !!!!
      Это будет особенно хорошо в новой части POE, когда объединят игроков на PC и консолях и сделают общий рынок! Помянем всех ботоводов! Даешь свободный рынок и минимум инфляции!!! Даешь divine orb за 20 chaos !!!!!!!!!

  • @Patraquashe
    @Patraquashe 2 месяца назад +1

    This will be such a massive QoL update. Fishing for Essences and stuff like that on trade can be a real chore. This will mitigate that significantly. Super hyped for league start on Friday!

  • @MMadous
    @MMadous 2 месяца назад +8

    I cannot express to you how happy this makes me. Closed beta player here, been wanting this for YEAAAARS. Thank you, GGG.

  • @jamesallen4103
    @jamesallen4103 2 месяца назад +1

    Every time I quit PoE it's because I find myself sitting idle in my hideout flipping through 15 internet browser tabs trying to set up trades instead of playing the game. Thank you GGG for adding this much requested feature! I'm back for Kalguur!

  • @TalkativeTri
    @TalkativeTri 2 месяца назад +44

    Truly amazing. I cannot believe it'll be in game soon.

    • @awemowe2830
      @awemowe2830 2 месяца назад +1

      traitor.
      get out of here. stick to your PoE2 fanboy shilling

    • @ArcticRoflWolf
      @ArcticRoflWolf 2 месяца назад

      🤡

    • @jigsawnq
      @jigsawnq 2 месяца назад +1

      So positive. Eewwwwww

    • @TalkativeTri
      @TalkativeTri 2 месяца назад

      @@jigsawnq that buy order limit tho

    • @VerrashGAMES
      @VerrashGAMES 2 месяца назад

      @@TalkativeTri Isn't this Selling offers limit ? that u can for example set 10 different items to sell ? You can buy whathever and whenever you want right ? imagine how many players will sett 300 different selling offers at a time with their 800 divines worth and market will become more trashy than trade site becuase in game with new trade market u don't need any programs to sell anything.

  • @SephirothsBIade
    @SephirothsBIade 2 месяца назад +2

    I love the amount of effort GGG puts into quality of life improvements.
    Thank you for making it easier to enjoy the game I love

  • @OmegaStyler
    @OmegaStyler 2 месяца назад +6

    WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  • @GeoffCoope
    @GeoffCoope 2 месяца назад +1

    Trading currency was always a massive put off for me. At lower levels or just reaching maps and you need just 6 regrets to unbrick your character (because you messed up), but spending an hour on the trade site trying to get somebody willing to respond and trade was a nightmare. This looks like it will completely solve that barrier. Not only that but special orbs that you need can be easily obtained without having to re-spec an atlas just to farm them (solo casual players rejoice). It's a great idea. At low levels, just sell Alts and get Chaos, use Chaos for item trades and keep the build progression smooth and fun with more time in game and less time spent on whispers.

  • @gaahinalover
    @gaahinalover 2 месяца назад +7

    this is already a million times better than the normal way of exchanging things. now I might actually be able to enjoy buying and selling to support myself

    • @fred6907
      @fred6907 2 месяца назад

      Next thing would be to implement this when trading actual items, and not just currency.

    • @gaahinalover
      @gaahinalover 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, I hate how the current system works and love the design of the one they made for currencies here. They need to go all the way. I hate how with the current system if you search for something specific, it only highlights what you look for but doesn't remove everything else. for things that there's tons of items in the same category you can easily shift through 50 pages only to find like 3 items available highlighted. I also hate the restriction where you can't trade with the same person twice over a period of time, and one person has pretty much cornered the entire market. I play on Playstation5, and have trouble buying just about anything cause virtually everything is always owned by a single player, makes getting currencies I need super hard, especially for things that used to only cost a few chaos, being sold for a dozen or more divines

  • @regal-27
    @regal-27 2 месяца назад +1

    This is so nice for trying to turn divines into chaos or stuff like oils and catalysts that were an absolute nightmare before. So happy to see this.

  • @marmitasemcarne
    @marmitasemcarne 2 месяца назад +5

    This is so beautiful I'm literally in tears

  • @Horse_Footed
    @Horse_Footed 2 месяца назад +1

    GGG has been the best company around for years now. So cool to see Mark take over in Chris's shoes. He's doing an amazing job and game has gotten better and better over the last few leagues. The leagues themselves have been so-so in my opinion, but the overall game feels soooo much better. Excited for the future

  • @IGanjaI
    @IGanjaI 2 месяца назад +16

    I have been wanting this in PoE for 10 Years now, Im am soooo freaking pumped for this feature.

    • @nicholasestes4028
      @nicholasestes4028 2 месяца назад +1

      I think it's time to move on lmao...

    • @OwnedGamer96
      @OwnedGamer96 2 месяца назад

      Move on to what, D4? LE where the devs can't fix shit in many months? Lol​@@nicholasestes4028

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ 2 месяца назад

      @@nicholasestes4028 they having fun bro, time for you to move on if you don't like the game.

  • @InnocenceExorcist
    @InnocenceExorcist 2 месяца назад +1

    We finally have game devs that play their own game and implementing features that the previous old guard fought so hard against. A true W right here.

  • @BeeegDuck
    @BeeegDuck 2 месяца назад +2

    This is the most important QoL in all leagues for me. Thanks.

    • @Fayzon11
      @Fayzon11 2 месяца назад

      Shame its going to suck 😔

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ 2 месяца назад

      @@Fayzon11 It literally can't suck but sure. Can't trade gold which means you have to actually play the game to trade. Most importantly though you don't get the gold back if you cancel a trade order and you can't just rug pull people or sit idle with fake ratios trying to deflate the value of a currency so you can buy it up at lower than actual value.

    • @Fayzon11
      @Fayzon11 2 месяца назад

      @@YuYuYuna_ My concern is with the "recommended" ratios themselves. Who knows what that ratio is based on. We should be able to just see all the active sell orders and purchase from them directly. Race to the best price before its gone.

    • @Buggolious
      @Buggolious 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Fayzon11 if that's your only concern then don't worry

  • @RamiGB
    @RamiGB 2 месяца назад

    From a technical point of view It would be fantastic of GGG devs release a forum/blog post about how this was implemented onto your own engine, the approach and the planning etc... A lot of people who play PoE are engineers and they might appreciate the read up even if they have an idea on how this has been done. Anyways, thank you GGG team for the marvelous work.

  • @michaeldoucet-morokael
    @michaeldoucet-morokael 2 месяца назад +3

    I only hope they expand on this to include items as some point.

  • @nightcatarts
    @nightcatarts 2 месяца назад

    Bulk transfer of currency through inventory/stash with one click is such a great addition. It's the simple little things that impact the enjoyment in the biggest ways I think.
    I also like the addition of the currency market, but as SSF not sure I'll ever be using it.

  • @ncgeronimo
    @ncgeronimo 2 месяца назад +3

    The price fixing potential is there for niche stackable items where the price is high but the supply is low. You could probably trade between people to set a favorable price for an item then wait for the market to match the price you set so the group can capitalize.
    Interesting if this will be the case. Still excited for this change and how it will change the game.

    • @crazy338866
      @crazy338866 2 месяца назад

      At least there is risk involved with that. Old system became the mess that it is now because there is almost no risk to price fixing.

    • @bonesnaps
      @bonesnaps 2 месяца назад

      At least the market supply will be higher than usual, since people can actually play the game and run maps instead of sitting in hideouts waiting for AFK traders!

  • @mayaarcana
    @mayaarcana 2 месяца назад

    This is amazing! I've wanted this for so long. Something that would be nice is to see your own gold balance somewhere in the UI in the Currency Exchange Market

  • @Skoshtwo
    @Skoshtwo 2 месяца назад +3

    Thank you Last Epoch for being the only ARPG game that comes up with quality of life mechanics.

  • @jonesmatthew191
    @jonesmatthew191 2 месяца назад

    The gold cost fee from only playing is genius to prevent bots from using bad actor tactics !!! I hope this goes well ! Thank you so much PATH OF EXILE !

  • @near--zero
    @near--zero 2 месяца назад +2

    Amazing, I love all of this. Have not been this stoked for a new league.
    Now the cherry on the sundae will be the POE 2 next character reveal being the templar, just to throw more mud on blizz xD

  • @gunz300
    @gunz300 2 месяца назад +1

    Best feature ever. You guys are amazing! I wonder how many people return to trade leagues from SSF just because of reduced trade friction?

  • @fullmetalarchitect
    @fullmetalarchitect 2 месяца назад +6

    Can you imagine ANY other ARPG putting this level of time and thought into their updates? I love this game.

  • @justin-michaelemmanuel8770
    @justin-michaelemmanuel8770 2 месяца назад +1

    My first leauge was Incursion, i've put 1.3k hours into poe since then (laughable numbers compared to some hardcore dudes for sure) I really enjoy this game, its probably my favorite game of all time and one I always come back too. I haven't played much the last few leagues because I started to just get tired of the trading system. poe is absolutely a time commitment and and when you have limited time to play, I cant tell you how frustrating it is to waste that time you could be mapping or bossing or crafting, waiting for someone to reply to your trade whisper. Im SO GLAD GGG has made this change! I think this is absolutely a step in the right direction, I will be more than happy to give them full feedback on how to improve it after a couple weeks of play. This combined with the RTS/time based element of the new league has set the stage for this league to be best poe has seen in years! Super stoked! Thanks GGG!!!!

  • @InfoRanker
    @InfoRanker 2 месяца назад +6

    This is one of the greatest changes in a long time. Hopefully we can expand on this and include gear as well one day.

    • @REIwAlexY
      @REIwAlexY 2 месяца назад

      wont happen without MASSIVE costs

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 2 месяца назад +4

      gear opens the gates to a lot of flipping and market abuse, which is already possible but its so tedious that most players don't care to do it. If it became this easy to do then the game can quickly turn into camping the auction house 24/7 as the only way to get decent gear/currency gains. Last epoch gets around this by linking items to account, PoE has no such restrictions. The gold cost on these items would have to be insane, like 1hr of efficient map farming to trade for 1 item, so to gear out a character with all gear/gems/jewels etc it would be a 50+ hr gold grind. Otherwise the potential for market abuse is too high

    • @xRetroCritic
      @xRetroCritic 2 месяца назад +2

      Probably not gear, but I'd like unstackable stuff like beasts and maps to be tradable on the market.

    • @c-tothefourth4879
      @c-tothefourth4879 2 месяца назад

      @@MyNameIsSaloit’s already confirmed for Poe 2. Useless comment 😂

    • @c-tothefourth4879
      @c-tothefourth4879 2 месяца назад

      @@xRetroCriticgear will happen eventually

  • @hitlord
    @hitlord 2 месяца назад

    This is going to revolutionize the game, seriously.
    We haven't been asking for this for ages for nothing. We are in the future boys.

  • @BejeweledBlitzBoy
    @BejeweledBlitzBoy 2 месяца назад +11

    Is the gold cost only dependant on stack size of input item?
    For example, in video it shows 1000 fusings -> 500 chaos costing 112k gold. Will the gold cost be the same for other way, 500 chaos -> 1000 fusings also 112k gold? or will it be half and be 56k gold?
    Because if it works like this then it might over inflate Divine Orb value, as buying 1500 alterations for 1 Div cost 500 gold, while 1500 alterations for 150chaos will cost 75k gold?

    • @shrimpmuzics7524
      @shrimpmuzics7524 2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, i was thinking this could be an issue with this system as too. since there is a gold tax per item, people are going to want trade more with items that have higher value like divs. Less trades means less gold tax. The value of other things might increase in proportion to this tho. Since less people are going to want to trade with chaos orbs now, we might see weird trading offers like chaos for alterations being traded off at a 1 to 1 ratio with this system. What im afraid of is if the poe trade site still allows currency trades, people might avoid the currency market system altogether

    • @shrimpmuzics7524
      @shrimpmuzics7524 2 месяца назад +1

      Its strange tho since later in the video it shows him placing an order for 300 transmutes for 50 chaos orbs at a 1500 gold tax fee. Maybe the trading fee decreases as you upgrade your town? who knows...

    • @AxonZshow
      @AxonZshow 2 месяца назад

      I suspect each item will have an unlisted price per item traded. I suspect that the tax for trading 1 div would be much higher than 1 chaos, and further still from 1 alch

    • @brunoscotto4549
      @brunoscotto4549 2 месяца назад

      Just so you know, from 10 way maven we saw boss looting 12K gold per boss, you can expect the same from the map so I'll say something like 100K/map to half a million for a single T16 depending on how juice you run it.

  • @saxensaxen.point.zer0980
    @saxensaxen.point.zer0980 2 месяца назад

    Such a fresh attitude, the player is in center of all changes

  • @honza2018
    @honza2018 2 месяца назад +7

    Amazing stuff!!! Thank you! Can´t wait!

  • @pikachu2003
    @pikachu2003 2 месяца назад +1

    Console and China POE already had a smaller scale TB but the inhibiting factor was no instant buyout. This is the fix for it! Hopefully the next iteration will include items!

  • @ebon227
    @ebon227 2 месяца назад +6

    I was all time playing diablo and I do not know how I not discovered this game. It is WAAAAY better than any diablo.

    • @nicholasestes4028
      @nicholasestes4028 2 месяца назад

      And you prob smoking dope lmao.

    • @ebon227
      @ebon227 2 месяца назад +1

      @@nicholasestes4028 no I am 16 years old, played mosty console games before, including diablo 3 then diablo 4 :D

  • @TheSittingElch
    @TheSittingElch 2 месяца назад +1

    Huuuuge Change !!! Thanks for pushing the game in the right direction since years

  • @CaptainLance9
    @CaptainLance9 2 месяца назад +25

    please go core O>O

  • @noizy514
    @noizy514 2 месяца назад +2

    I am so happy. Interacting with trade is what puts me off the game every league.

    • @fred6907
      @fred6907 2 месяца назад

      Same, trying to put together a build is such hassle when you have to use the god awful 3rd party trade system. People rarely respond, and you have to constantly teleport back to attend to people waiting in line.

  • @taborevan
    @taborevan 2 месяца назад +3

    ty ggg please keep this forever

  • @ArnoldsKtm
    @ArnoldsKtm 2 месяца назад +1

    bless you mark

  • @n91312
    @n91312 2 месяца назад +8

    Bring it to standard bruh we waited 10 years for this

  • @TheUbberman
    @TheUbberman 2 месяца назад +1

    After all these years... we finally have it.
    Comfortable in-game player trade market! (atleast for currencies)

  • @MushroomGirlDethcapp
    @MushroomGirlDethcapp 2 месяца назад +4

    thankies for also giving controller inputs for the currency movement

  • @G.m1nwo0
    @G.m1nwo0 2 месяца назад

    One of the most important changes in PoE imo!
    Great work GGG!
    Buy low amounts of currency was suck a pain and we (players) was almost forced to buy more quantity to get the trade happen.

  • @LeeroyLeone
    @LeeroyLeone 2 месяца назад +12

    Cool stuff!

  • @untitled8027
    @untitled8027 2 месяца назад

    I am so excited. I have wanted this for so long. Thank you to everyone at GGG who helped make this happen.

  • @xxPageProxx
    @xxPageProxx 2 месяца назад +3

    Bravo! This is game changing

  • @sijmister
    @sijmister 2 месяца назад

    The really great thing about this is it will finally make it easy to trade in currencies other than chaos/divs/fusings. We'll hopefully actually be able to trade scours->chromes, whetstones->regrets, whatever permutations you can think of that would have been a PITA with the already terrible trade even with the super liquid currencies.

  • @mistalt7782
    @mistalt7782 2 месяца назад +3

    fantastic update cant wait to play

  • @v1kort
    @v1kort 2 месяца назад

    The market not only has a place in future leagues... We've needed it for many past years!😒👏👍

  • @supacopper4790
    @supacopper4790 2 месяца назад +3

    Those who put up the offer can no longer stay idle and ignoring when someone ask for the trade.
    Great feature!

    • @crazy338866
      @crazy338866 2 месяца назад

      Yup. Now price fixers have to do it the riskier way by buying up all the cheaper stock to re-sell it at a higher price.

    • @Peter_Tissot
      @Peter_Tissot 2 месяца назад

      no, the best part is those that want to buy, is no longer spamming 40 people to do the trade, and only trade with 1 and ignores the other 39 sellers that are slower to reply!

  • @anime0dude
    @anime0dude 2 месяца назад +1

    the best part about this is casual / free to play players no longer need to buy a stash tab or create a forum post to sell things good job ggg

    • @algorithman2129
      @algorithman2129 2 месяца назад

      I think that is a unintended consequence (from GGG's point of view) 😁

    • @Buggolious
      @Buggolious 2 месяца назад

      @@algorithman2129 very intended

  • @snowpea809
    @snowpea809 2 месяца назад +3

    Great Explanation video.

  • @Mooo105
    @Mooo105 2 месяца назад

    Really glad to see how many different things are on the market (essences, tattoos, oils etc) and not "just" ordinary currency. This will make some otherwise annoying atlas strats a lot more fun when you can liquidate instantly.

  • @marcusr.hansen5361
    @marcusr.hansen5361 2 месяца назад +9

    Can't wait for the new league!

  • @Thundares
    @Thundares 2 месяца назад

    I am going to engage just to show how much I appreciate this. Trading currency was such a pain that even made me rage quit some leagues.

  • @TCBabcock
    @TCBabcock 2 месяца назад +4

    Awesome. Can't wait.

  • @WitherAndrot
    @WitherAndrot 2 месяца назад

    As a gamer I have immesurable amount of admiration and appreciation for GGG developers. Thank you so much and I can't wait to start playing 3.25!

  • @TFDwarlson
    @TFDwarlson 2 месяца назад +2

    What if there are more items to be received than what can fit in the inventory? Will multiple trips have to be made to the stash?

    • @theburgundynetwork3432
      @theburgundynetwork3432 2 месяца назад +1

      That's very likely. Shouldn't be much of a problem, just place this dude close to your stash.

    • @Joey_Shepard
      @Joey_Shepard 2 месяца назад +3

      Yes? That's why they said it's a good idea to have this guy in your hideout and assumingly near your stash.

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ 2 месяца назад

      You can add the guy to your hideout so this isn't an issue. just right click to fill as much as you can, deposit, and do it again.

  • @Idham24
    @Idham24 2 месяца назад

    This is a brilliant idea to make it available only during Settlers league instead of becoming core to check the feedback from players first

  • @Fireincairo
    @Fireincairo 2 месяца назад +4

    This is great but can we finally get something similar for items? Part of the reason I stopped playing the game is because of how tedious and time consuming trading for items is. You can waste hours messaging people who don’t reply. I’ve tried to get back into playing the game several times, but gave up because of this.

  • @crolas3681
    @crolas3681 2 месяца назад

    introducing the gold as a free so you have to play is a briliant adition to deter bots aswell very nice!

  • @olliestar100
    @olliestar100 2 месяца назад +3

    we need this in Standard too

  • @Lennji
    @Lennji 2 месяца назад

    This is a GODSEND, FINALLY!!! No need to suffer from tens of people not responding to my messages because I want to buy just a few regret orbs.... This feature should stay in the game forever.

  • @Schmidteren
    @Schmidteren 2 месяца назад +5

    YES!!!!!!!

  • @shadydrow9638
    @shadydrow9638 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so much! This is the best change we could ask for! Go GGG!

  • @daneonate5714
    @daneonate5714 2 месяца назад +2

    love u mark

  • @descuddlebat
    @descuddlebat 2 месяца назад

    I don't even play trade, I'm just happy to see one of my favorite games having a healthy impact on another one of my favorite games

  • @yuan3234
    @yuan3234 2 месяца назад +2

    Lets go!!

  • @VatelFak
    @VatelFak 2 месяца назад +1

    And with this.. PoE is a Titan of the industry.