Didnt see this quirk mentioned, but the rear view mirror also has a USB-C port in case you want to install a dashcam and don't want to have wires running all over your dash.
If the car has built-in cameras, then I do think the Tesla way of using a USB drive to record to it would be the better way. But if it doesn't, then it's certainly a great idea.
The entire reason the original VW bus became so popular and beloved the world over, was the fact it was AFFORDABLE. It was a vehicle for anyone, so everyone bought one. This new Buzz won't have 1/100th the enduring popularity as the original, because only 1/10th as many people can afford it as could afford the original.
Speaking as a regretful ID.4 owner here, VW's infotainment/control software is absolute shite as well, which I can't imagine isn't also affecting the Buzz too. There's nothing like starting to drive down the road and have your center console/driver display screens lock up and stop updating, then having to pull over and turn the car off/on to reset and get them working again. It's GREAT!!!! SO happy with software update 3.2/3.3...
@@PasleyAviationPhotography just like how he likes climate controls in a screen now before it was about simple knobs no need to over complicate a simple task.
$62k for a “hippie” van is criminal. The whole point of the original VW Bus was that it was cheap and affordable. Hippies didn’t have a lot of money so it was an ideal car for them. This is literally a nostalgia trip for fanboys. I don’t think this will be a big seller.
It really is not worth 70k. Even fully loaded theses are an appliance that should not cost more than 45 k. I can tell you the resale value on evs are horrible. This will be selling for 30k on a lot 2 years from now.
It won't sell a lot. He even sales in the video it's a halo car. VW wants to get people into dealerships to look at it and then consider buying another one of their cars.
It's kinda odd how Doug has money from Cars & Bids and money from almost 5M YT subs but is still doing an ad for Turo. Wonder if he bought a lot of stock or something.
Hearing that price was the same feeling you get when you drink the cup of water on your nightstand the morning after a party night of heavy drinking but it is actually an unfinished cup of vodka.
For that money, you can buy a fully loaded gas or hybrid minivan and still have money left over for years of gas. Minivans are commonly used for road trips and this thing's range sucks in that regard.
@@bwofficial1776 The base Buzz is very well contented, on par with the fully loaded minivan equivalents. Say a top loaded Pacifica Plugin, which is a close competitor to the Buzz, costs about the same price as the base Buzz while having similar equipment, and the Pacifica has less interior volume, is slower and not nearly as cool. The range also isn’t as big of a deal as people act like it is, the Buzz DC charges quite fast.
I LOVE the OG bus, but always felt like I would never have the chance to drive a fully functional one, but like I said it’s my FAVORITE! I REALLY hope to be able to get this new one!
And it'll be even more expensive after Trump's tariffs kick in, since they're all built in Germany. Their starting price will be at least $100K in a couple of months.
It's fascinating how a van that was once popularized by '60s counterculture-when young people bought them secondhand for a few hundred dollars and used them as canvases for their art-now starts at $60K and up. In a way, the van has followed the same life path as the people who helped make it famous in the first place.
The original succeeded because it was a low cost, easy to maintain simple machine that could be purchased by just about anybody on the economic spectrum so it was naturally adopted by the counter-culture of the time. Very easy to operate, maintain and customize. This is the exact opposite of that and as a result will tank in sales
I booked a car on Turo for a road trip, there were a crazy amount of fees that brought the price of the rental way over the advertised big dollar amount price you'll see next to the vehicle on the app. We're talking 1.5x-2x the advertised price and none of the fees were penalty types like cleaning fees.
Yeah... the idea of this car was really cool 10-15 years ago when it came out. But its clear they didn't actually update anything after that. The backup camera is a joke. Had to stop watching about halfway through. Its disgusting. Basically just a car to buy and brag about having because no one wanted one. People would have wanted one a decade ago.... but yeah that ship has sailed.
I was actually extremely interested in the Buzz. I have 5 kids and currently drive a 22 Odyssey. Electric would fit our lifestyle just fine. Hearing it has the most interior space was music to my ears. The fact that it's not a boring standard minivan is great too. Unfortunately the van Id want is $89,000 Canadian. That's insanity. It doesn't even come close to doing more than my Odyssey does to justify a price even close to that. I feel a huge segment of the market is just like me VW has completely priced them out.
To be honest it feels like a lost opportunity. Some new cars have cool designs but all of them are electric and where I live it is impossible to have an electric car only. We are not there yet @@DarthVader1977
FYI the volume/climate "sliders" work as both sliders AND buttons. Many many people do not know this and do not know how to make precise adjustments, so they end up complaining, but you can simply tap on it to use it as a button.
As a car guy, this thing is super cool. That said, my family and I went on a approx. 800 mile road trip in our 2024 Sienna Hybrid, it's got something crazy like 18 cup/bottle holders and with my wife and I, my mother-in-law, and our 3 kids, those cup holders were used a lot. We packed it to the gills and still got 37mpg overall with, I think around 560 miles of range per tank. To Doug's point, I think this will be a lifestyle purchase for people that want more room than a Tesla and want the VW Bus vibe. If I had the money to afford one of these in addition to my Sienna I'd order one ASAP... but that ain't happening lol.
@BullittHilts you kinda nailed it. I'm n not surprised minivan owners aren't looking at it, it's 70,000 dollars. Most mini van people are practical people, and while this van looks sweet and cool, at 70k and 250 miles range, it's not practical.
@LosingMyMind13 we’ve got just over 5,500 miles after 5.5 months of driving. So on track for about 1,000 miles/month. It’s been a great car, we’re really happy with it. I’ve been trying to take extra good care of it. It’s our first new car purchase so I did my own oil change after the break-in period (ended up changing it at 3k miles instead of the 10k mile interval. I didn’t want the original oil in there for that long. I’m planning to change the oil every 5k miles just to avoid the chance for issues.
9:29 stop acting like us asking for physical volume nob is ridiculous, it allows you to easily feel for the button with out taking ur eyes off the road plus there’s mechanical feed back
9:17 so tremendously responsive that it ignored your first swipe. 13:50 so tremendously responsive that you pressed the button THREE times and it increased fan speed by ONE. Very nice and cool!
Drove the Buzz aswell, heard really bad feedback about the new VW touch controls before so I was expecting the worst. Only because of that I was pleasantly surprised, not saying much but compared to the rest of the market not too bad.
His first swipe was it pulling up the control first like you are supposed to. It’s so you don’t accidentally swipe it. Once the bar pulls up then you slide to adjust it
It's going to be an especially "hard sell" at this price point because of "range anxiety". After all, it's an EV, and because of the boxy body shape, it has a lot of aerodynamic drag. Even with it's 86 kW-hr battery - 23% larger than the battery in the BZ4X - it has 4% less range, and costs nearly $20,000 more. Of course, it seats 2 more people than the BZ4X, and in far more comfort thanks to the extra legroom. But where the rubber meets the road, a Sienna LE has the same number of seats, costs $25,000 less, and can go 648 miles on a full tank of gas (i.e. no range anxiety). And because of the lower up-front purchase price, a Sienna is going to cost less to license at DMV, and less to insure, saving you an additional $300~$400 per year. On the other hand, if you live somewhere like Sacramento, where there is a not-for-profit electric utility offering discounted 12¢/kW-hr overnight EV charging, the Buzz will save money on "fuel", as long as you don't go on long road trips where you have to use expensive public DC fast charging (49¢/kW-hr at Electrify America or EV-Go, for example).
Yeah it’s kinda insane. 60+ k id get a Lexus or Acura. This is relying on a look entirely, the tech and materials are really cheap and VW electrics have the worst range in the industry
@@laura-ann.0726 You are right on the ball with what you're saying. The physical concept of the car is now completely outdated. They did nothing to bring the idea into 2025-its stuck in 2010 in terms of what it looks like, the design, back up cam, touch screen etc. They had to wait to release it this late because they needed the range to support it... it doesn't make any sense at all if you really pay attention to the time line and tech. Just really a stupid disappointment.
@@puccipower - The Buzz will appeal to older people who owned VW busses or Vanagons 30~40 years ago, and maybe to some young people who need the seating and cargo capacity of a minivan and are committed to EV's on principle. But as soon as Toyota or Honda comes out with an EV version of the Sienna and Odyssey, presumably with solid-state battery cells and (maybe) 500 mile range, this Buzz will disappear, unless VW brings the MSRP down to something comparable to whatever price a hypothetical Sienna EV or Odyssey EV might be priced at. Toyota could easily produce a Sienna EV now: just take the P-810 transaxle, modify it to eliminate the gasoline engine, power split device, and the small MG1 motor, take the existing Sienna inverter and modify it to eliminate the MG1 components, take the existing BZ4X battery and enlarge it to 100 kW-hr, and bingo, you have the powertrain for a Sienna EV with only a little re-engineering. Everything related to the gas engine is gone: the engine itself, the fuel tank, cat converter and muffler, and all the exhaust and EGR plumbing, so finding room for a larger battery pack shouldn't be a problem. The existing powertrain software from the BZ4X could probably be re-used with just minor modifications. Toyota has all the engineering talent it needs to do this right now; I assume they haven't because they are likely waiting for the battery companies to perfect large rectangular-form-factor solid state battery cells. We all know these are coming soon - maybe as soon as the 2027 model year - and Toyota would probably prefer to just wait for them and not have to engineer a Sienna EV now that will only get gel-electrolyte batteries for maybe 150,000 vehicles, then have to redesign the powertrain for solid state batteries in just 2 or 3 years (the Sienna sells about 58,000 units per year in the US).
You're dreaming if you think this car will depreciate like that. I wish it would, but there's no way. I'd love to pick one up used in a few years but it'll still be $$
@@EVANHIRSCHMANGit Woudnt be bad, most equivalent equipped minivans are around $50k cad. So it's not an unreasonable premium. I suspect that these will be available at a discounted pretty fast.
They F’d up with that price. The whole incentive to get the old school bus was that it was dirt cheap, easy to maintain and extremely versatile. The starting price is like $20k over what it should be.
To be fair you could say that about a lot of vehicles today, look at the Bronco or most trucks, but I definitely agree. $60k puts it way out of reach for most buyers who'd be interested in it and even the few who would spend that kind of cash are gonna be disappointed with the base model. I'd also argue electric wasn't a great move but I guess if they're going for the high price tag it probably fits those peoples lifestyles more anyway.
OVerall I agree with you, it's priced outside my consideration. But... you gotta give it 2 out of 3, it still is versatile and I bet it will be dependable by having low maintenance (kinda like the easier version of maintenance). The 2nd row cupholders is another weird omission, like my VW golf has thermos cupholders in the doors, why not here?
To be fair it's not like the VW T7 Diesel/Gas eqivalent Sold in Europe is a steal. Costs upwards of 50000€ for 130hp. Know several people driving older T6 and T6.1 VWs, back in 2017 you'd get halogen lights, 6 speed manual and 150hp diesel engine notorious for certain problems for the low low price of 55k
That's a lot of the car companies. Families are struggling financially do to housing, healthcare, childcare, etc, and somehow these companies think enough families can afford $50k+ electric vehicles that will allow them to profit. Then factor in the dealership markups and that number is now smaller.
@@cscorona1 They should have, though. If this was priced this in the 40K to 50K range, they'd be in direct competition with Sienna and Odyssey. And then, VW would dominate the minivan market with this cool, quirky vehicle.
This reminds me alot of the Chevy Astro Van from the 90's and 2000's. The square body design , short snout (hood), Short and long wheelbases the center console that you can remove (astro didn't have 1 at all). 2wd or AWD , Sliding 2nd and 3rd row bench seats. Loved the Astro Van's
@@AllahDoesNotExist ok and? do people not carry around water bottles?? also in Europe tmk most countries don't have laws against open containers in cars and they do drink more than us
@@enemyspotted2467 It's a strategic omission for parents. If there are no cup holders, you don't give your kids drinks. If your kids don't have drinks, they can't spill them in the back seat.
My 1st car was a 1966 VW Bus. I have fond memories. It had a bed in back on top of the engine bay, a kitchen area with a water reservoir and hand pump faucet. The advantage of the old bus is you could almost stand up inside it. This version has about the same interior vertical space as an SUV.
VW is about 20 0:32 years late on this. A gas powered model to follow the Eurovan in the 2000’s would have been a market leader. And no, the Routan was not a solution.
I kinda agree. Maybe base model has it and a higher end or even sport model with these ones. I like them but I also think the classic ones were more bus themed
When this was first announced in 2017, these "futuristic" headlights were a popular design. VW clearly didn't take cues at the time that Ford did for the Bronco, or what Dodge had done for years. Pretty disappointing choice not only at the time, but also given what we know 7 years later.
Agreed. The original VW bus from back in the day stood for freedom and adventure. This electric variant is already giving me battery range anxiety and I haven't even driven it yet.
If I designed this thing it would have a slightly larger turbo diesel like the Jetta had that gets high 30 something on the highway. Plus the roof would extend up like a camper and the whole vehicle would be set up so a buyer could customize it for whatever use they had. I would see if the engineers could even incorporate a slide out into the design. Build the vehicle in Vietnam to keep labor costs down and sell it for 40K they would sell a ton of them all over the world. Roll out an online VW Buzz accessory/ add on store too.
Volkswagen when they first announced it: Affordable car, for the people. That's Volkswagen. Volkswagen now: Starting at 60k but really with dealership markups and taxes 70-80k Get bent.
To put things into perspective, the closest equivalent T1 from 1964 cost $2765 ($28,214 in today's money). Granted, it had very little equipment to speak of and just 42 hp, but still. To put things further into perspective however, median family income in the US was $6,600 that year ($67,346 adjusted for inflation) - compared to $80,610 last year, so about 1.2 times greater now than back then. In the end, this is a luxury vehicle and even somewhat of a performance car, neither of which are characteristics that applied to the T1, which was a bare minimum post-war thing designed for a recovering, but still fundamentally poor country that just happened to have unexpected global appeal, just like the Beetle it's based on. The ID Buzz may share some of the design elements and the VW badge with the original, but that's where the comparison ends. Americans also missed how the more recent successors of the T1 gradually moved upmarket anyway, since the last one they got was from the early 1990s. Even a fully loaded late '90s Diesel VW bus was an expensive thing. In my neck of the woods, the fancy Multivan version was owned by the richest family around (they had inherited a successful factory). People oohed and aahed when the thing rolled past. The ID Buzz is perfectly in line with that and not even that outrageously expensive by comparison, but again, that was a car for wealthy people anyway. Worth mentioning that just like with the normal VW bus, Europe also gets not only a less powerful and shorter variant, but also stripped-down commercial versions, including a pickup truck. Those aren't cheap either, but not that far removed from typical cargo vans, starting at €48,215 excl. taxes ($51,772). A normal VW Transporter is €36,780 ($39,493), but it only comes with a 110 hp Diesel engine - compared to the 170 hp of the base model ID Buzz Cargo (although both have exactly the same amount of torque, which is likely no coincidence).
Is that still happening ? Here in the U.K. I am beginning to see some really good discounts on nearly new cars. e.g 25% off for a 1 year old car with 5000 miles on the clock. There again that was the norm pre covid. Full price for the people who must have a new car. ones that sales staff had daily driven for six months for people who wanted a discount.
@idris1446 I didn't copy anything I've been hyped about this car for YEARS. I own several vintage Volkswagens but this was a huge disappointment to me as a fan of the original. Bad range so you can't road trip and the price puts it beyond the "affordable car for the people" they promised.
VW Vans were always very close to Mercedes in price, nothing new The EQV starts at 58k€, V Class 54k, ID. Buzz 50k, Multivan 55k Very different specs, similar pricing
@@martini380 America doesn’t really like minivans, they prefer big SUVs. It’s why they’d rather have an Escalade over an Alphard. It’s just mindset and local car culture in America.
@@robertbigler7743 Just today junked a ICE 2008 Toyota Tundra due to catastrophic underbody rust. The cars that make it to 31 years are a vanishingly small fraction.
I have had one opportunity to drive a 70s VW microbus and that was one of the things I loved most about it. I so want to drive another one. It’s such a unique experience.
So cool to see the new ORIS disappearing hitch system out on vehicles after all the work we spent developing it! Thanks for featuring it in your video! Many new applications are in the works!
The hitch on the Ascent is behind a cover which is nice but with this you don't have to detach and reattach anything or lose the panel so that's nice. Is there a limit though on how much a retractable hitch can tow and the tongue weight?
Here in Europe we have several versions of the ID-Buzz, including the 340hp version. It's the GTX. You tested one of the cheapest versions last time. In the European version there are two folding tables with cup holders on the backrests of the front seats. Strange that they are missing in America.
Compare the Mercedes Vito to the Mercedes Metris here in the states. Nobody in the states seems to want anything past "cup folder" and maybe a couple of USB ports in their mini vans.
I was actually kind of interested in this as a practical daily, fun camping vehicle, etc. but not at $61k base! If it started in the low 30s I'd really consider it.... but not at SIXY THOUSAND DOLLARS!
I saw one out in the wild last week, I had forgotten about the ID Buzz and first time watching this video. It's cool looking van inside and out. The USB-C ports everywhere, especially in the doors is VERY well thought-out. Kind of like US Mini-vans telling you how many cupholders you have. My Honda has 12, and the modern Odyssey has 17 - when including the 2nd-middle seat down. The ID Buzz lacking Cup-holders for the 2nd row passengers is a MAJOR oversight. They should have put it in the door, anywhere. Even a Subaru has 19 holders. The sliding door looks beautiful, but there's a small speaker where the cup holder should be. So the ID Buzz has 4 cup holders? Looks like it may hold 2 more in the 3rd row (lower sides). VW should have omitted the middle seat of the middle row; it's fairly useless anyway; it could have been the cup holder/armrest console. PS: 1st row console removal is common on some mini-vans.
In Europe we get the AWD version now. And yes we only had a RWD 204 hp version until now. Here in Norway we see the ID Buzz all the time, because it's craftsmen like carpenters, plumbers etc. that use them. Here in Norway there is 0 tax on cheaper electric vehicles (some years ago there was 0 tax on ALL electric vehicles), and apparantly as a two-seater it is very usable as a van for craftsmen with the big cargo space. So that's probably a reason we had the "cheap" version until now.
@@lofimiata I still recall a large part of Doug's Hyundai Kona review was him questioning who would want such a small car. Very strange considering he later bought a Mercedes A class.
The cargo version is mainly aimed towards handymen, plumper, electricians, etc. The limited range could be a problem in the north-american urban sprawl.
Minivans are waHAay cool. They are the luxury configuration .. I have a 2016 Grand Caravan and loaded late model, full size Lexus. We take the Grand Caravan everywhere.. across town, across the state, and have taken it across the country.
The main issue people had with the temp and volume sliders was that in early VW EVs they were not backlit. You could literally not see them in the dark which is pretty bad for a touch sensitive UI element.
The low range and lack of cup holders will hurt US sales more than they think. Love the look and that VW went deep on the styling and interesting bits but that thing screams road trip , of which it can’t deliver.
Cool & at $60k+, it’s going to flop like nothing we’ve ever seen. Give us a gas version. For $60k+, I’ll get an uber decked out AWD Sienna w/ a much better range.
Yep. Crappy range, completely unserviceable for the owner. Who are we kidding. This thing is an appliance on wheels. That interior is not going to age well either.
As an employee, I've been saying this forever. The Current Tiguan R-Line should have adaptive dampers and the same engine as the GTI. Atleast a tune vw
Tiguan R w/ the Golf R Turbo I4, DSG and 4Motion AWD briefly existed for the previous generation, probably only available in euro markets. also there’s a T-ROC R as well one size smaller :)
I own one, have done for 1,5 years already. It's the jack of all trades car in my opinion. But I also live in a country that heavily favors EV's over ICE vehicles, and we have an charging infrastructure that actually works
That blade runner glass roof seems like a huge gamble - how well will that hold up to the elements & normal wear? Can't be very good for thermal efficiency and climate control either - plus no cargo rack.
@@pjonesmoody Efficiency that almost no one can afford? lol That gadget is expensive to make and actually uses a lot of energy to manufacture as well. It doesn't even seem to work properly.
Very cool, unfortunately with a low range of 231-234 miles is pretty subpar for today's standards. Not to mention it is likely only be charged up to 80% most of the time, that is less than 200 miles of usable range at any given moment.
Btw, there is no way in hell ANYONE will get one of these for $60k for a while. I guarantee there will be at least a $20,000 ADM on top of that, especially when it’s first released.
I have seen other reviews of this vehicle and in cold weather the range was only slightly above 80 miles. this car weighs almost 7000 lbs. looks really cool i would love to have one with an ls swap
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Didnt see this quirk mentioned, but the rear view mirror also has a USB-C port in case you want to install a dashcam and don't want to have wires running all over your dash.
@@omgBenton That's awesome! Would have loved that on my car.
Why not just include a dashcam in the mirror
@dtouw guess they didn't want the price to get too high 🤣
Brilliant! Hope that starts to permeate the market as a standard feature.
If the car has built-in cameras, then I do think the Tesla way of using a USB drive to record to it would be the better way. But if it doesn't, then it's certainly a great idea.
The entire reason the original VW bus became so popular and beloved the world over, was the fact it was AFFORDABLE. It was a vehicle for anyone, so everyone bought one. This new Buzz won't have 1/100th the enduring popularity as the original, because only 1/10th as many people can afford it as could afford the original.
true
Yet they will sell everyone they can make.
@@TotallyJoel and lose money on each one they sell 😂
non of these hippies bought it new.
AFFORDABLE. after it was used.
Wait till he sells them.
Speaking as a regretful ID.4 owner here, VW's infotainment/control software is absolute shite as well, which I can't imagine isn't also affecting the Buzz too.
There's nothing like starting to drive down the road and have your center console/driver display screens lock up and stop updating, then having to pull over and turn the car off/on to reset and get them working again. It's GREAT!!!! SO happy with software update 3.2/3.3...
The lack of cars and bids ad is uncanny. Hearing doug talk about turo might be even stranger after all this time
it feels like ages he mentioned turo in his reviews.
Doug talks about whoever pays him more. He is the pretty woman of car reviewers.
@@PasleyAviationPhotography just like how he likes climate controls in a screen now before it was about simple knobs no need to over complicate a simple task.
this is a press car owned by VW USA
Muscle memory triggered the Cars and bids segment in my head and it crashed when I heard Turo
$62k for a “hippie” van is criminal. The whole point of the original VW Bus was that it was cheap and affordable. Hippies didn’t have a lot of money so it was an ideal car for them. This is literally a nostalgia trip for fanboys. I don’t think this will be a big seller.
broke: id buzz is for 'hippies'
woke: id buzz is for burning man attendees
It really is not worth 70k. Even fully loaded theses are an appliance that should not cost more than 45 k. I can tell you the resale value on evs are horrible. This will be selling for 30k on a lot 2 years from now.
It won't sell a lot. He even sales in the video it's a halo car. VW wants to get people into dealerships to look at it and then consider buying another one of their cars.
Don’t worry, it’s an EV, so you’ll be able to get a used one next year for $24K.
I agree its too expensive,, not accessible to regular people to buy,,,should be like only like 28k to 35k,,,IMO,,,the price will hinder the sales!
Only OGs know doug used to make videos about cars borrowed from turo.
And BMW from Temecula
@@mahimmustakim6859 nooooooo lie
CNC too
Exactly. I thot i was in 2019 or sumthin 😂
It's kinda odd how Doug has money from Cars & Bids and money from almost 5M YT subs but is still doing an ad for Turo. Wonder if he bought a lot of stock or something.
Hearing that price was the same feeling you get when you drink the cup of water on your nightstand the morning after a party night of heavy drinking but it is actually an unfinished cup of vodka.
Or a piss cup.
Don't forget dealer markups: Over/under what will these actually cost when they get to dealers and the FOMO crowd lines up??
For that money, you can buy a fully loaded gas or hybrid minivan and still have money left over for years of gas. Minivans are commonly used for road trips and this thing's range sucks in that regard.
@@bwofficial1776 The base Buzz is very well contented, on par with the fully loaded minivan equivalents. Say a top loaded Pacifica Plugin, which is a close competitor to the Buzz, costs about the same price as the base Buzz while having similar equipment, and the Pacifica has less interior volume, is slower and not nearly as cool. The range also isn’t as big of a deal as people act like it is, the Buzz DC charges quite fast.
That's why VW is failing in Europe, the prices are just insane and no one buys their car even though they are good cars
i can't believe the industry finally beat doug into submission on the sliders vs. knobs issue. GIVE US KNOBS!!!
Yea, the fact that people are totally cool accepting "not that bad" for literally NO BENEFIT blows my mind. Especially for something this expensive.
Doug is in the pocket of Big Slider. It's the only reasonable answer
@MatthewUrso 🤣🤣🤣
@@MatthewUrso lol
I have an ID.4 and really love the sliders. Actually, easier to use while driving than a knob.
I always say over my dead body I'll never get a mini van! But I love this! And I'll be more than happy to own one!
Wasted opportunity, borderline CRIMINAL to not give it round headlights.
Good point! I was thinking about the 23 window skylights...
It's the modern version great looks - and they did the trick already with the new beetle....can´t even imagine how it would like?
nahh
I'm wondering why it has the word LIGHT on the ..... light?
Heck even the new Land Cruiser has round headlights as an option. Toyota does what VWdont.
Doug, You need to add more categories to your list just for electric vehicles like: charge time, range, actual distance...
Maybe add hands-free voice call quality? Does it sound like you're standing under Niagra Falls?
Ya, he didn't talk about the drive train. Thumbs down on this video.
There's enough of those reviews out there. Dough does Dough reviews.
@@havardstle3788 Who's Dough and does he make Donuts?
@@dannydaw59yes he did, he actually talks about it twice.
I never thought I would hear Doug shout out to Turo again... It feels like an old school Doug video....
Feeling nostalgic right now
Does it smell like a Volkswagen? Old Volkswagen owners will remember that distinct clean new Volkswagen smell.
I LOVE the OG bus, but always felt like I would never have the chance to drive a fully functional one, but like I said it’s my FAVORITE! I REALLY hope to be able to get this new one!
love the closing quote "probably too expensive for anyone who wants one to actually get one"
And it'll be even more expensive after Trump's tariffs kick in, since they're all built in Germany. Their starting price will be at least $100K in a couple of months.
It's fascinating how a van that was once popularized by '60s counterculture-when young people bought them secondhand for a few hundred dollars and used them as canvases for their art-now starts at $60K and up. In a way, the van has followed the same life path as the people who helped make it famous in the first place.
total boomer design. yes.
lol true. But the original wasn’t all that cheap new anyway
Nailed it. I’ll add- They missed on a van when the entire western US is in peak “van life” mode. So dumb.
@@KDubs107 very accurate observation!
shows how insane these auto makers have gotten. nobody can afford these cars.
The original succeeded because it was a low cost, easy to maintain simple machine that could be purchased by just about anybody on the economic spectrum so it was naturally adopted by the counter-culture of the time. Very easy to operate, maintain and customize. This is the exact opposite of that and as a result will tank in sales
Transport for the masses is thing of the past with EVs
Thats romantization of the past. Most people did not even have a car back then, maybe a very old beetle or sth
let us make simple cars again.
They are rare here in Germany. So the failed with selling. "Volks" wagen doesn't mean Volkswagen anymore
I booked a car on Turo for a road trip, there were a crazy amount of fees that brought the price of the rental way over the advertised big dollar amount price you'll see next to the vehicle on the app.
We're talking 1.5x-2x the advertised price and none of the fees were penalty types like cleaning fees.
More nostalgia for the rich. Well done Volkswagen... I bet they will sell a lot of them, at least 100 for sure!
i want one for a DD. i guess i might wait til someone wrecks one, lol
It’s sad no one has bothered to make a cheap electric car.
Yeah... the idea of this car was really cool 10-15 years ago when it came out. But its clear they didn't actually update anything after that. The backup camera is a joke. Had to stop watching about halfway through. Its disgusting. Basically just a car to buy and brag about having because no one wanted one. People would have wanted one a decade ago.... but yeah that ship has sailed.
Oh man, really? The back camera sucks? That was my main reason to buy this van!
@@undefined69695 I mean a brand new Tesla Model 3 for $29k a month or so ago is pretty cheap
I was actually extremely interested in the Buzz. I have 5 kids and currently drive a 22 Odyssey. Electric would fit our lifestyle just fine. Hearing it has the most interior space was music to my ears. The fact that it's not a boring standard minivan is great too. Unfortunately the van Id want is $89,000 Canadian. That's insanity. It doesn't even come close to doing more than my Odyssey does to justify a price even close to that. I feel a huge segment of the market is just like me VW has completely priced them out.
crappy range for such a big vehicle. Load it with anything heavy and it's barely getting to the edge of town and back.
@@andoletube Exaggerate much?
Sienna hybrid probably your jam. Maybe there'll be a PHEV version someday
To be honest it feels like a lost opportunity. Some new cars have cool designs but all of them are electric and where I live it is impossible to have an electric car only. We are not there yet @@DarthVader1977
@@davec8921 Too ugly and I don't like Toyotas. Would just stick with the Odyssey.
70k USD 100k CAD…..Doug you gotta start calling out these crazy prices on cars.
Doug have expensive cars.
Also he sale's "car & bids" for profit.
24:50
Did you even watch the video dude?
DominikWegner
What cars you bought new ???
@@idris1446 he doen not sell any new cars !
FYI the volume/climate "sliders" work as both sliders AND buttons. Many many people do not know this and do not know how to make precise adjustments, so they end up complaining, but you can simply tap on it to use it as a button.
Knobs are still 10x better, sliders are an ordeal.
As a car guy, this thing is super cool. That said, my family and I went on a approx. 800 mile road trip in our 2024 Sienna Hybrid, it's got something crazy like 18 cup/bottle holders and with my wife and I, my mother-in-law, and our 3 kids, those cup holders were used a lot. We packed it to the gills and still got 37mpg overall with, I think around 560 miles of range per tank.
To Doug's point, I think this will be a lifestyle purchase for people that want more room than a Tesla and want the VW Bus vibe. If I had the money to afford one of these in addition to my Sienna I'd order one ASAP... but that ain't happening lol.
@@BullittHilts Unfortunately most european markets don't have these awesome family vans like Odyssey, Sienna or Pacifica.
@BullittHilts you kinda nailed it. I'm n not surprised minivan owners aren't looking at it, it's 70,000 dollars. Most mini van people are practical people, and while this van looks sweet and cool, at 70k and 250 miles range, it's not practical.
$50 says that some RUclipsr will buy the VW Bus & put a lift kit on it for off-roading. 😂
how many miles have u got on the sienna? how do u like it so far? 560 miles per full tank is awesome!
@LosingMyMind13 we’ve got just over 5,500 miles after 5.5 months of driving. So on track for about 1,000 miles/month. It’s been a great car, we’re really happy with it.
I’ve been trying to take extra good care of it. It’s our first new car purchase so I did my own oil change after the break-in period (ended up changing it at 3k miles instead of the 10k mile interval. I didn’t want the original oil in there for that long. I’m planning to change the oil every 5k miles just to avoid the chance for issues.
9:29 stop acting like us asking for physical volume nob is ridiculous, it allows you to easily feel for the button with out taking ur eyes off the road plus there’s mechanical feed back
I remeber him complaining about it in the new gti right? Or am I remembering that wrong
Even iPhones have mechanical volume buttons!
Exactly. When there are buttons and knobs you can operate things without (or at least very minimal) time spent taking your eyes off the road.
Plus more accurate for those who care.
You have volume control on your steering wheel
9:17 so tremendously responsive that it ignored your first swipe. 13:50 so tremendously responsive that you pressed the button THREE times and it increased fan speed by ONE. Very nice and cool!
@@Bacender it's a quirk and feature, you just don't get it
Doug is nowadays a car salesman.
Drove the Buzz aswell, heard really bad feedback about the new VW touch controls before so I was expecting the worst. Only because of that I was pleasantly surprised, not saying much but compared to the rest of the market not too bad.
His first swipe was it pulling up the control first like you are supposed to. It’s so you don’t accidentally swipe it. Once the bar pulls up then you slide to adjust it
@longbrake0060 Cool. Buttons and knobs don’t do that. They just work when you interact with them.
I saw two around town and they look AMAZING. Such fun cars and from this video they look extremely practical.
It’s entirely too expensive. They wouldn’t be able to keep them on the lots at $40k. I bet they’ll have a hard time selling them at $60k+
It's going to be an especially "hard sell" at this price point because of "range anxiety". After all, it's an EV, and because of the boxy body shape, it has a lot of aerodynamic drag. Even with it's 86 kW-hr battery - 23% larger than the battery in the BZ4X - it has 4% less range, and costs nearly $20,000 more. Of course, it seats 2 more people than the BZ4X, and in far more comfort thanks to the extra legroom. But where the rubber meets the road, a Sienna LE has the same number of seats, costs $25,000 less, and can go 648 miles on a full tank of gas (i.e. no range anxiety). And because of the lower up-front purchase price, a Sienna is going to cost less to license at DMV, and less to insure, saving you an additional $300~$400 per year. On the other hand, if you live somewhere like Sacramento, where there is a not-for-profit electric utility offering discounted 12¢/kW-hr overnight EV charging, the Buzz will save money on "fuel", as long as you don't go on long road trips where you have to use expensive public DC fast charging (49¢/kW-hr at Electrify America or EV-Go, for example).
@@laura-ann.0726 that and ev in the USA just don't sell. even teslas are starting fall off a cliff sales wise.
Yeah it’s kinda insane. 60+ k id get a Lexus or Acura. This is relying on a look entirely, the tech and materials are really cheap and VW electrics have the worst range in the industry
@@laura-ann.0726 You are right on the ball with what you're saying. The physical concept of the car is now completely outdated. They did nothing to bring the idea into 2025-its stuck in 2010 in terms of what it looks like, the design, back up cam, touch screen etc. They had to wait to release it this late because they needed the range to support it... it doesn't make any sense at all if you really pay attention to the time line and tech. Just really a stupid disappointment.
@@puccipower - The Buzz will appeal to older people who owned VW busses or Vanagons 30~40 years ago, and maybe to some young people who need the seating and cargo capacity of a minivan and are committed to EV's on principle. But as soon as Toyota or Honda comes out with an EV version of the Sienna and Odyssey, presumably with solid-state battery cells and (maybe) 500 mile range, this Buzz will disappear, unless VW brings the MSRP down to something comparable to whatever price a hypothetical Sienna EV or Odyssey EV might be priced at. Toyota could easily produce a Sienna EV now: just take the P-810 transaxle, modify it to eliminate the gasoline engine, power split device, and the small MG1 motor, take the existing Sienna inverter and modify it to eliminate the MG1 components, take the existing BZ4X battery and enlarge it to 100 kW-hr, and bingo, you have the powertrain for a Sienna EV with only a little re-engineering. Everything related to the gas engine is gone: the engine itself, the fuel tank, cat converter and muffler, and all the exhaust and EGR plumbing, so finding room for a larger battery pack shouldn't be a problem. The existing powertrain software from the BZ4X could probably be re-used with just minor modifications. Toyota has all the engineering talent it needs to do this right now; I assume they haven't because they are likely waiting for the battery companies to perfect large rectangular-form-factor solid state battery cells. We all know these are coming soon - maybe as soon as the 2027 model year - and Toyota would probably prefer to just wait for them and not have to engineer a Sienna EV now that will only get gel-electrolyte batteries for maybe 150,000 vehicles, then have to redesign the powertrain for solid state batteries in just 2 or 3 years (the Sienna sells about 58,000 units per year in the US).
Finally a VW matching the depreciation of a Bentley
to be fair, bentleys are vws now so it tracks
Likely not. Since a lot of ppl like this vehicle but can't afford it, used prices will hold fairly high
@@blackvr4ttIf they can't afford the new one why would they pay up for a used one?
@stan2kay Aka "i can t affford it"
You're dreaming if you think this car will depreciate like that. I wish it would, but there's no way. I'd love to pick one up used in a few years but it'll still be $$
The starting price announcement of $80k CAD is devastating because I’ve been waiting YEARS for this to come out to buy one.
even at 60k CAD its not worth
@@EVANHIRSCHMANGit Woudnt be bad, most equivalent equipped minivans are around $50k cad. So it's not an unreasonable premium.
I suspect that these will be available at a discounted pretty fast.
All those years you could have saved up and bought one cash. ….But nope. 😂
@@gelu88 ah yeah you might be right tbh but I’d starting is 80k I don’t think it will hit 60k even with discounts. I’m used to usd prices
@@CentristRNtf kind of drugs are you on
Doug DeMuro: the guy who calls a cargo attachment point a twistie
They F’d up with that price. The whole incentive to get the old school bus was that it was dirt cheap, easy to maintain and extremely versatile. The starting price is like $20k over what it should be.
To be fair you could say that about a lot of vehicles today, look at the Bronco or most trucks, but I definitely agree. $60k puts it way out of reach for most buyers who'd be interested in it and even the few who would spend that kind of cash are gonna be disappointed with the base model. I'd also argue electric wasn't a great move but I guess if they're going for the high price tag it probably fits those peoples lifestyles more anyway.
OVerall I agree with you, it's priced outside my consideration. But... you gotta give it 2 out of 3, it still is versatile and I bet it will be dependable by having low maintenance (kinda like the easier version of maintenance).
The 2nd row cupholders is another weird omission, like my VW golf has thermos cupholders in the doors, why not here?
The Volkswagen Polo is more than 20k and thats the entry model for FAU-VÉ
Pathetic capabilities and price, that's why the world especially developed markets needs to see flood of chinese EVs asap.
I paid $1200 for my 1965 VW Bus.
This is a miss.
VW: "No one is buying our cars!"
Also VW: "Let's price a family minivan at 60k"
So out of touch.
With very small range.
To be fair it's not like the VW T7 Diesel/Gas eqivalent Sold in Europe is a steal. Costs upwards of 50000€ for 130hp. Know several people driving older T6 and T6.1 VWs, back in 2017 you'd get halogen lights, 6 speed manual and 150hp diesel engine notorious for certain problems for the low low price of 55k
That's a lot of the car companies. Families are struggling financially do to housing, healthcare, childcare, etc, and somehow these companies think enough families can afford $50k+ electric vehicles that will allow them to profit. Then factor in the dealership markups and that number is now smaller.
This isn’t a “family minivan”, it’s an eccentric EV. VW didn’t design this thing to pull people away from a Sienna purchase.
@@cscorona1 They should have, though. If this was priced this in the 40K to 50K range, they'd be in direct competition with Sienna and Odyssey. And then, VW would dominate the minivan market with this cool, quirky vehicle.
I watch every new Doug video when I try to take a nap after work. 60% of the time, it works all of the time.
This reminds me alot of the Chevy Astro Van from the 90's and 2000's. The square body design , short snout (hood), Short and long wheelbases the center console that you can remove (astro didn't have 1 at all). 2wd or AWD , Sliding 2nd and 3rd row bench seats. Loved the Astro Van's
The cupholders for the 2nd row are an accesory option, part number 1T3061129. Feels like these should be included...
Does nobody at volkswagen have kids? Subaru ran an ad campaign for the Ascent centered on the fact it has something like 15 cupholders.
@@enemyspotted2467drive through drinking is almost non-existant in Europe
@@AllahDoesNotExist ok and? do people not carry around water bottles?? also in Europe tmk most countries don't have laws against open containers in cars and they do drink more than us
CUpholders are in the sliding door bottom pocket
@@enemyspotted2467 It's a strategic omission for parents. If there are no cup holders, you don't give your kids drinks. If your kids don't have drinks, they can't spill them in the back seat.
If only VW also gave us (USA) the utility/work Variant
We have it in EU. :)
there is. it is called cargo
Look up chicken tax
Most US van buyers are buying to carry people or for Van life, not for work.
@@username65585 No reason it couldn't be made here, as the ID.4 is. But iirc the SWB has a smaller battery/range, which is a nonstarter in 'Murica.
My 1st car was a 1966 VW Bus. I have fond memories. It had a bed in back on top of the engine bay, a kitchen area with a water reservoir and hand pump faucet. The advantage of the old bus is you could almost stand up inside it. This version has about the same interior vertical space as an SUV.
Had the same vehicle. Took me from TN to Key West. Time of my life. 😂
this is what it looks like when you slap a mullet on a PT Cruiser
I would love one of these to haul my kids a round but $70k!!!!
Pricing the regular Joe's out of a decent family vehicle. For this price you might as well get a luxury suv/truck
around*
Buy 2 Model Ys instead.
Exactly. Who will buy these?
Person that love EVs & have money to buy it.
VW is about 20 0:32 years late on this. A gas powered model to follow the Eurovan in the 2000’s would have been a market leader. And no, the Routan was not a solution.
This is exactly how I picture a VW Bus being designed in a 2000s movie about the future. It’s really well done!
My parents had a VW camper when I was a kid in the 70's it was awesome. Wish I had that VW today.
they really missed a shot with those headlights. should've gone with the classic round lights like the original.
I kinda agree. Maybe base model has it and a higher end or even sport model with these ones. I like them but I also think the classic ones were more bus themed
It really needs round headlights 🙁
When this was first announced in 2017, these "futuristic" headlights were a popular design. VW clearly didn't take cues at the time that Ford did for the Bronco, or what Dodge had done for years. Pretty disappointing choice not only at the time, but also given what we know 7 years later.
The initial prototype was quite good. Like the New Beetle, actually. What a disappointment!
Check out the Morris JE van in the UK. 1.2 tonnes and made fully out of reclaimed carbon fibre. Round headlights like the original ;)
Not making this a hybrid is a HUGE mistake.
Agreed. The original VW bus from back in the day stood for freedom and adventure. This electric variant is already giving me battery range anxiety and I haven't even driven it yet.
They probably didn't have the space to make this hybrid...
If I designed this thing it would have a slightly larger turbo diesel like the Jetta had that gets high 30 something on the highway. Plus the roof would extend up like a camper and the whole vehicle would be set up so a buyer could customize it for whatever use they had. I would see if the engineers could even incorporate a slide out into the design. Build the vehicle in Vietnam to keep labor costs down and sell it for 40K they would sell a ton of them all over the world. Roll out an online VW Buzz accessory/ add on store too.
You are so right!
German manufacturers were never really big on hybrids.
3 minutes into the video i realized there’s no point in watching the rest because there’s no way in hell id pay 60 racks for this
Which car have you bought that Doug has reviewed? I watch it mostly for entertainment and in the background
Right, just buy a T1 or T2 Bus... and have a real VW Bus.
Yeah this things gonna flop so hard 😂
Yeah Sienna mops the floor with this car
Agreed. It's priced so high for what it is that it’s not even worth considering.
Volkswagen when they first announced it:
Affordable car, for the people. That's Volkswagen.
Volkswagen now: Starting at 60k but really with dealership markups and taxes 70-80k
Get bent.
ya, friggin nazis….
To put things into perspective, the closest equivalent T1 from 1964 cost $2765 ($28,214 in today's money). Granted, it had very little equipment to speak of and just 42 hp, but still. To put things further into perspective however, median family income in the US was $6,600 that year ($67,346 adjusted for inflation) - compared to $80,610 last year, so about 1.2 times greater now than back then.
In the end, this is a luxury vehicle and even somewhat of a performance car, neither of which are characteristics that applied to the T1, which was a bare minimum post-war thing designed for a recovering, but still fundamentally poor country that just happened to have unexpected global appeal, just like the Beetle it's based on. The ID Buzz may share some of the design elements and the VW badge with the original, but that's where the comparison ends. Americans also missed how the more recent successors of the T1 gradually moved upmarket anyway, since the last one they got was from the early 1990s. Even a fully loaded late '90s Diesel VW bus was an expensive thing. In my neck of the woods, the fancy Multivan version was owned by the richest family around (they had inherited a successful factory). People oohed and aahed when the thing rolled past. The ID Buzz is perfectly in line with that and not even that outrageously expensive by comparison, but again, that was a car for wealthy people anyway.
Worth mentioning that just like with the normal VW bus, Europe also gets not only a less powerful and shorter variant, but also stripped-down commercial versions, including a pickup truck. Those aren't cheap either, but not that far removed from typical cargo vans, starting at €48,215 excl. taxes ($51,772). A normal VW Transporter is €36,780 ($39,493), but it only comes with a 110 hp Diesel engine - compared to the 170 hp of the base model ID Buzz Cargo (although both have exactly the same amount of torque, which is likely no coincidence).
Is that still happening ? Here in the U.K. I am beginning to see some really good discounts on nearly new cars. e.g 25% off for a 1 year old car with 5000 miles on the clock. There again that was the norm pre covid. Full price for the people who must have a new car. ones that sales staff had daily driven for six months for people who wanted a discount.
Are you copy this from Wiki/ Reddit.
@idris1446 I didn't copy anything I've been hyped about this car for YEARS. I own several vintage Volkswagens but this was a huge disappointment to me as a fan of the original. Bad range so you can't road trip and the price puts it beyond the "affordable car for the people" they promised.
Low range, high price. Volkswagen should try again.
I dont think they will. Currently VW has some "issues"
VW Vans were always very close to Mercedes in price, nothing new
The EQV starts at 58k€, V Class 54k, ID. Buzz 50k, Multivan 55k
Very different specs, similar pricing
@@martini380 America doesn’t really like minivans, they prefer big SUVs.
It’s why they’d rather have an Escalade over an Alphard. It’s just mindset and local car culture in America.
@@martini380 any Tesla better ? cheaper ?
Wait till he sells them for less now
I see a good bunch of these in Norway. I'd take the Buzz over the Cybertruck any day.
I learned to drive a 93 Oldsmobile Silhouette, so saying this thing has a long dash is cute.
Yep! And I wonder how many of these VW_EV's will still be running when they're 31 years old?
@@robertbigler7743 Just today junked a ICE 2008 Toyota Tundra due to catastrophic underbody rust. The cars that make it to 31 years are a vanishingly small fraction.
Awesome review! I don't remember the last time Dough was so excited for a new car, let alone a minivan.
When the driver's seat is almost sitting on the front wheels (VW Bus tradition) then the Turns around corners and curvs feel the way Doug explained it
I have had one opportunity to drive a 70s VW microbus and that was one of the things I loved most about it. I so want to drive another one. It’s such a unique experience.
70K, electric, small market = LOT ROT!
Ad ends at 1:38.
@@DarthVader1977 good looking out
Nah I'm watching the ad
Ad ends at 27:18.
@@VideoAmericanStyle Well, that too 😉.
So cool to see the new ORIS disappearing hitch system out on vehicles after all the work we spent developing it! Thanks for featuring it in your video! Many new applications are in the works!
The hitch on the Ascent is behind a cover which is nice but with this you don't have to detach and reattach anything or lose the panel so that's nice. Is there a limit though on how much a retractable hitch can tow and the tongue weight?
Here in Europe we have several versions of the ID-Buzz, including the 340hp version. It's the GTX. You tested one of the cheapest versions last time. In the European version there are two folding tables with cup holders on the backrests of the front seats. Strange that they are missing in America.
Compare the Mercedes Vito to the Mercedes Metris here in the states. Nobody in the states seems to want anything past "cup folder" and maybe a couple of USB ports in their mini vans.
12:42 Hey Doug, pass me the cup holder box.
I was actually kind of interested in this as a practical daily, fun camping vehicle, etc. but not at $61k base! If it started in the low 30s I'd really consider it.... but not at SIXY THOUSAND DOLLARS!
They aren't trying to sell to poor people.
I saw one out in the wild last week, I had forgotten about the ID Buzz and first time watching this video. It's cool looking van inside and out. The USB-C ports everywhere, especially in the doors is VERY well thought-out. Kind of like US Mini-vans telling you how many cupholders you have. My Honda has 12, and the modern Odyssey has 17 - when including the 2nd-middle seat down. The ID Buzz lacking Cup-holders for the 2nd row passengers is a MAJOR oversight. They should have put it in the door, anywhere. Even a Subaru has 19 holders.
The sliding door looks beautiful, but there's a small speaker where the cup holder should be. So the ID Buzz has 4 cup holders? Looks like it may hold 2 more in the 3rd row (lower sides).
VW should have omitted the middle seat of the middle row; it's fairly useless anyway; it could have been the cup holder/armrest console.
PS: 1st row console removal is common on some mini-vans.
In Europe we get the AWD version now. And yes we only had a RWD 204 hp version until now. Here in Norway we see the ID Buzz all the time, because it's craftsmen like carpenters, plumbers etc. that use them. Here in Norway there is 0 tax on cheaper electric vehicles (some years ago there was 0 tax on ALL electric vehicles), and apparantly as a two-seater it is very usable as a van for craftsmen with the big cargo space. So that's probably a reason we had the "cheap" version until now.
Really? Interesting. What is the price over there? The price in USD is not going to sell. At all.
I would much rather have one of the Euro versions! I would love a 2 seater, I bet it would be great for camping.
Depreciation has entered the chat 😂😂😂
At least VW finally made a vehicle that will LEGITIMATELY pass emissions tests. 😛
My first car at age 16 was a 1970 Type II in blue and white w/black interior. I called it the magic bus.
The short wheelbase cargo variant would be awesome. Too bad that's the exact opposite of what we get in the States...
In Europe we get all models. Cargo, short, long, all ranges. He makes it sound like we only get the short wheelbase. It's you guys that get less.
Yeah too many Americans want something giant.
Yeah short wheelbase would be so much more interesting, esp if they lowered the price 20k lol
@@lofimiata I still recall a large part of Doug's Hyundai Kona review was him questioning who would want such a small car. Very strange considering he later bought a Mercedes A class.
The cargo version is mainly aimed towards handymen, plumper, electricians, etc. The limited range could be a problem in the north-american urban sprawl.
center console: reminds me of the Pontiac Aztec cooler
Correction, it was not Volkswagen swho invented the bus, it was a Dutch Volkswagen importer, Ben Pon who had the idea!
Minivans are waHAay cool. They are the luxury configuration .. I have a 2016 Grand Caravan and loaded late model, full size Lexus. We take the Grand Caravan everywhere.. across town, across the state, and have taken it across the country.
If you’re planning on buying one, you better get one soon before the Tariffs kick in……… 😂
The main issue people had with the temp and volume sliders was that in early VW EVs they were not backlit. You could literally not see them in the dark which is pretty bad for a touch sensitive UI element.
The “buzz” on this died 3 years ago. It took too long to get it to the US and the price is ridiculous. Maybe they should make a diesel version.
The EPA just loves to screech when you try to bring diesel anything to the USA that's not a big truck.
Yep and it looks aged already.
EVERY CAR should have that tow hitch design.
~ The Return of Turo ~
The low range and lack of cup holders will hurt US sales more than they think. Love the look and that VW went deep on the styling and interesting bits but that thing screams road trip , of which it can’t deliver.
Kids don't use "cup holders" they use water bottles. And there's ample room for those.
BS. My kids use the cup holders on every long trip. Not every drink has a cap.
7 passengers and 4 cup holders? I’d pass for that reason alone.
@@dazedhavoc Wow. Even my Sienna has 13 cupholders.
VW is amazing. They took forever to bring this to the US and screwed up the basics like controls and cupholders, not to mention the price.
Doug’s the kinda guy that puts a Turo commercial right inside his video! Dang it! 😩… I’m paying for YT premium and still getting commercials… DOUG. 😂
13:19 - you can see the cupholder in the door ;-)
Angle of camera doesn't help but if that's a cup holder it's the worst design for one ever
You had me until you said the price! $60k is just obnoxious.
Cool & at $60k+, it’s going to flop like nothing we’ve ever seen. Give us a gas version. For $60k+, I’ll get an uber decked out AWD Sienna w/ a much better range.
"Give us a gas version," cried the obstinate conservative.
@@willtrola3074 lighten up, putz. Sending Play-Doh your way.
@@willtrola3074 lighten up, putz. Sending Play-doh your way. 45/47
@@davidcamacho3513 You're jewish
I'm kinda happy that I will get the swb version of this car without the rear windows, because of that rear button :D
This is hardly the successor to the original VW van.
Yep. Crappy range, completely unserviceable for the owner. Who are we kidding. This thing is an appliance on wheels. That interior is not going to age well either.
Womp womp
Volkswagen needs to give us a Tiguan R with 315 horsepower.
Nah they need give us the TDI undercover like last decade 🤫
That’s basically a Golf R on steroids
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As an employee, I've been saying this forever. The Current Tiguan R-Line should have adaptive dampers and the same engine as the GTI. Atleast a tune vw
Tiguan R w/ the Golf R Turbo I4, DSG and 4Motion AWD briefly existed for the previous generation, probably only available in euro markets. also there’s a T-ROC R as well one size smaller :)
Probably a cool design exercise, but pricing from 60K?? It's a Vw Van, plus it's electric.
People love throwing 60k on SUVs why not on a Buzz?
@@anton_grahn A $60k SUV is nicer, more reliable, can tow, and has double the range.
As someone who learned stick shift on an '83 Vanagon, I look forward to time in the Buzz.
That's a silly price for that car. Once the novelty wears off, buyer's remorse will set in.
Nope! Love that has the retro-future look but it lacks the stuff to make it nearly worth $35000 let alone in the starting price if mid-60k.
Come on, 35 grand would be absurd for this much car. Nobody, not even the Chinese with all of the slave labor in the world, could make it that cheap.
Doug is the kind of guy that wakes up the entire family to let them know that he's going to bed.
Dead meme only used by this channel’s most pathetic and lowest IQ viewers. Grow up. You aren’t interesting nor humorous.
This car and the Kia Carnival might be the start of luxury minivans
70k for THAT?? 20k too $$.
It’s an EV so it needs to sell at a 50% discount relative to ice vehicles. Maybe $25k?
That phone charger is going to cook your phone lol. I wish people would test the phone heater, I mean charging
I'd just plug it in. Wireless charging roasts your battery, especially in cars where the mount isn't perfect and it just throws more power at it.
And if you put your key there, take some pliers with you😅
Who is buying this is the exact right question. This will sell poorly, and VW will soon realize the answer is "no one"
Rich liberals in California with time and money to wastw
People love throwing 60k on SUVs why not on a Buzz?
I suspect, the average buyer will be around 60 years old, white and freshly retired 😂
I own one, have done for 1,5 years already. It's the jack of all trades car in my opinion. But I also live in a country that heavily favors EV's over ICE vehicles, and we have an charging infrastructure that actually works
I don't think I'd ever get this over my Discovery 3. For a start it couldn't tow my trailer :) We also have horses and muddy fields haha.
Noone noticed that clip under the screen so far, thats dougs great eye for such details!
Skip to 3:50 and save yourself the time of watching any other part of the video. It's 61k base. Not no, but never for a Volkswagen.
@@justinanglin3693 61k base and it has rear drum brakes right?
@@markrzepecki9006 Yep and yep.
Yikes
Presenting the all new 2025 Volkswagen Dead On Arrival
"Really practical", starting at $61k hoookay dude
He addressed the ridiculous pricing, despite it being "really practical".
Practical if you're rich? 🤷
@@SS-rw9kd And then he gave it an absurd "value" score of 6. It's more like a 2.
i will never get used to a giant ipad just being glued onto the dash and have that just control everything
Thank you Doug. Interesting to see this vehicle.
That blade runner glass roof seems like a huge gamble - how well will that hold up to the elements & normal wear? Can't be very good for thermal efficiency and climate control either - plus no cargo rack.
It's an unfortunate part of the EV revolution. I guess they are transitioning us to the cockpit environment of flying cars.
@@cbotten106 Funny thing is nobody will buy this thing to speak of
My understanding is that it helps boost the greenhouse effect in winter climates. Heating the interior takes so much energy, more than AC in summer.
@@pjonesmoody Efficiency that almost no one can afford? lol That gadget is expensive to make and actually uses a lot of energy to manufacture as well. It doesn't even seem to work properly.
Very cool, unfortunately with a low range of 231-234 miles is pretty subpar for today's standards. Not to mention it is likely only be charged up to 80% most of the time, that is less than 200 miles of usable range at any given moment.
60k for an electric van? What is going on hahahaha
Volkswagen is going on. VW North America doesn't really know what to do.
Btw, there is no way in hell ANYONE will get one of these for $60k for a while. I guarantee there will be at least a $20,000 ADM on top of that, especially when it’s first released.
And then people will buy it used, 3years old, for 30.000 less
Got me with the cable clip. Every car should have that these days.
2:50 swiper stop swiping
25:58 - No sir. Bigger is Better. If we’re going to spend that level of money, we want cargo space and utilitiy value.
smaller van smaller price is what people with common sense would think
Price is absolutely out of control. Should be $35K for that plastic box.
If you can't afford a product, then it is not meant for you.
Ya...... I own several cars. A 2017 R35, 2014 Shelby GT500, 2016 M6 Comp, 2014 Raptor, 2017 F150. Next will be a McLaren 765. Nice try though, kid.
@@mrufo2297 I too strive for validation from strangers I assume to be children on the internet.
@@mrufo2297then you should know what kind of crap $35k buys you nowadays.
I have seen other reviews of this vehicle and in cold weather the range was only slightly above 80 miles.
this car weighs almost 7000 lbs. looks really cool i would love to have one with an ls swap