No help from Belichick? Without Belichick's defense last year's Patriots dont win 12 games. And as someone who's seen this entire run from the beginning I can tell u Belichick's defense was the reason they won their first couple championships. Brady was a system qb early on.
It was a mess last year. Edelman was the only reliable receiver and he dropped a huge pass in the playoffs. Sanu was useless. Josh Gordon flopped out. Brown and Brady would be 25-30 tds a year. I think he deserved 2 more years with the Patriots and they should have loaded up with him. But Cam Newton is currently available for basically nothing.
Shannon Sharpe said it best Tom Brady's calling card was that he does more with less and now that he can't do that it's he needs help. That to me would mean he's on the decline now. I wouldn't say washed up be he's definitely diminished. I also think it was time to move on for the Patriots.
Agree. If Rob wants to quibble they were a Double Dynasty which is even greater than a continuous Dynasty. No QB has a Double Dynasty. Rob is right about it having to come to an end. Patriots avoided NFL Parity for about 10 years because of Brady.
Brady been in the league for 20 but has only started 18 seasons. Sat his first season, out in 08 game 1 quarter 1 due to acl. So with Brady as the starting quarterback the had a 50/50 shot at making the superbowl which is insane
I actually agree with Rob. 9 SBs out of 20 years is obviously historic, but I wouldnt call it a dynasty either... And here's why (Stephen A. voice).... During this 20 year run, they have probably gone through 20 assistant coaches, 20 Recievers, 15 Running Backs, 40 offensive and defensive lineman, etc. The only constant has been Bill Belechick and Tom Brady. So, In my opinion, this 20 year stretch has been a testament to the greatness of Tom Brady and Bill Belechick, and their ability surround themselves with average talent, and make that average talent a Super Bowl Champion. And the main reason why I wouldnt call it a dynasty is because of what Rob Parker pointed out...there was a 10 year stretch between winning a championship. If you want to call the first 3 championship teams a dynasty, and the second 3 teams a dynasty, then maybe I would agree, but I dont consider the full 20 years a single dynasty because the 20 year stretch was more about the longevitiy of Tom and Bill. The biggest and most important thing that is important to being considered a dynasty is championships, so although NE has had an historical amount of success, the decade between championships doesnt really qualify a team as a 20 year dynasty.
Skips much worse, but he is entertaining and thats what helps him. Rob just has an unpopular opinion most of the time. There is nothing wrong with that. It doesnt matter what the opinion is, there are going to be people who strongly disagree because no community of people will all agree on a topic. You have an opinion too, and I guarantee, if you were to publically give your opinion, there will be people calling you an idiot too. Its just easy for you to talk about Rob cause you can sit back and give your opinion without thousands of people dissecting each and everything you say
It’s funny listening back on Robs takes on Tom at this time with the hindsight of how things have gone since. Rob, like so many over the years, balked up and down when pointing out the genuine lack of weapons in NE especially at the end and refusing to allow that reality into his takes on Tom’s performance in the final year with the Pats. Then we witnessed the immediate decline of the Pats without having Tom who clearly covered so many of the teams deficiencies through the years and had an all time knack for cooking a grounder meal with bargain bin groceries at his disposal for the vast majority of his career. Then when he made the move to the Bucs where he had elite weapons to throw to his stat output skyrocketed the first two seasons and he won a Super Bowl. Clearly at the end having weapons at his disposal made a big difference in what we saw him produce and it’s a shame the Pats were never willing to do that in his later years. At the end the Pats took Toms ability to continue producing well despite the tools available to him for granted just like they took his team first mentality for granted. Really was a shame how it all ended there because I’m sure he would’ve loved to have retired a Pat had he been treated better at the end of his time.
There is a difference between dynasty and brand. A dynasty can be for success over one period in time whereas a brand is for success over different periods in time. Brand examples: The Yankees, the Lakers and the Celtics. The Patriots can be called a brand if they are successful in different eras. The Bulls are not to be considered a brand as what have they done before and after Micheal.
Greatest Dynasties 1. Patriots-I hate them 2. LOMBARDI'S PACKERS- 5 championships in 8 years with 6 championship appearances 3. San Francisco- 5 championships with 2 different quarterbacks 4. Pittsburgh- 4 championships in 6 years 5. Dallas- 3 championships in 4 years
#6. Joe Gibbs Redskins- 3 championships with 3 QBs & 4 super bowl appearances. My definition of dynasty- 3 or more championships within atleast a 10 year period & your teams were mostly in the running even during the years you didn't win it.
lets be careful with our words, the patriots are a team. was it the whole team who didn't want brady. so man up and call it like it is, billy boy didn't want tom.
Washed up Brady just went to a no playoffs for 13 years Tampa Bay organisation, threw for 40 TDs, then drilled through Brees, Rodgers and Mahomes on route to a Super Bowl championship and Super Bowl MVP. Rob Parker's takes are so bad that I'm starting to think that it's performance art.
Rob is such a hater of Tom Brady. He's being saying he was washed up 7yrs ago. Anyone knows football can see he is still in the top 6 quarterbacks in NFL. Like Rob but he does this for entertainment. He won't admit it but it's o.k it's radio.
kwabena donkor Oh I can stop. I have stopped. When I see Blob Parker’s name I skip to the comments. There is no point wasting my time listening to this jackass vomiting the same tired old Brady hate he’s been living off of for God knows how long. It’s his cornball lame schtick and is not even remotely interesting anymore. Same old same old lame BS. This sad clown is not fit to clean the mud off Brady’s cleats. Down deep, RP is a shallow, grubbing little weasel. And he knows it.
And now we see how well that deal paid off for Tampa. Super Bowl, an MVP level second season and Tom had to carry the injury plagued third year to even get to a postseason. For a team that hsndt even been to a postseason for over a decade I’m sure they feel thst every penny was well spent
@@Matt-cr4vvexactly 💯. They'll remember every bit of that Brady era in Tampa as short as it was. It'll be like a special moment in time in the history of a mostly disappointing franchise.
Neither is to blame,it was time to move on...but I'll tell you this I believe Belichick will win 2 more Bowls (eventually)then he'll retire Bucs will be a playoff team but that's it
Who's fault?! Ugh. Things end!they had 20 years! It ended! What u think...Brady at QB when he's 55 and the winning continues?! Gotta blame someone? Blame aging and time! Not on bill or Brady. Chris is the worst talkinghead there is. Rob only reason I watch...worst talking heads to me r CHRIS....Nick....McIntyre....those gotta b top three to me
If the Patriots aren't a dynasty, then I guess Jordan's Bulls was just a good run, and the Yankees had a few decent years.
@Baller Fresh he big hatin' lol
tuck rule on raiders started the cheating
How can U say Tom is washed up.
He had no receivers
No help from Belichick or the organization last year. 🤦♂️🤮
Right. If he does badly in Tampa Bay, then I'll gladly admit he is washed up. 1 more year.
Look at his numbers, watch the tape and try again
No help from Belichick? Without Belichick's defense last year's Patriots dont win 12 games. And as someone who's seen this entire run from the beginning I can tell u Belichick's defense was the reason they won their first couple championships. Brady was a system qb early on.
It was a mess last year. Edelman was the only reliable receiver and he dropped a huge pass in the playoffs. Sanu was useless. Josh Gordon flopped out. Brown and Brady would be 25-30 tds a year. I think he deserved 2 more years with the Patriots and they should have loaded up with him. But Cam Newton is currently available for basically nothing.
Shannon Sharpe said it best Tom Brady's calling card was that he does more with less and now that he can't do that it's he needs help. That to me would mean he's on the decline now. I wouldn't say washed up be he's definitely diminished. I also think it was time to move on for the Patriots.
Rob is wrong. They won 3, lost 2, won 2, lost 1, won 1. That's a dynasty. Went to the Super Bowl 9 out of 20 seasons.
Agree. If Rob wants to quibble they were a Double Dynasty which is even greater than a continuous Dynasty. No QB has a Double Dynasty. Rob is right about it having to come to an end. Patriots avoided NFL Parity for about 10 years because of Brady.
Brady been in the league for 20 but has only started 18 seasons. Sat his first season, out in 08 game 1 quarter 1 due to acl. So with Brady as the starting quarterback the had a 50/50 shot at making the superbowl which is insane
I actually agree with Rob. 9 SBs out of 20 years is obviously historic, but I wouldnt call it a dynasty either... And here's why (Stephen A. voice).... During this 20 year run, they have probably gone through 20 assistant coaches, 20 Recievers, 15 Running Backs, 40 offensive and defensive lineman, etc. The only constant has been Bill Belechick and Tom Brady. So, In my opinion, this 20 year stretch has been a testament to the greatness of Tom Brady and Bill Belechick, and their ability surround themselves with average talent, and make that average talent a Super Bowl Champion. And the main reason why I wouldnt call it a dynasty is because of what Rob Parker pointed out...there was a 10 year stretch between winning a championship. If you want to call the first 3 championship teams a dynasty, and the second 3 teams a dynasty, then maybe I would agree, but I dont consider the full 20 years a single dynasty because the 20 year stretch was more about the longevitiy of Tom and Bill. The biggest and most important thing that is important to being considered a dynasty is championships, so although NE has had an historical amount of success, the decade between championships doesnt really qualify a team as a 20 year dynasty.
The Patriots are a dynasty. To argue otherwise is semantics.
I can't believe they pay Rob Parker. Hes worse than Skip and that'd sad
Na skip is worse
Skips much worse, but he is entertaining and thats what helps him. Rob just has an unpopular opinion most of the time. There is nothing wrong with that. It doesnt matter what the opinion is, there are going to be people who strongly disagree because no community of people will all agree on a topic. You have an opinion too, and I guarantee, if you were to publically give your opinion, there will be people calling you an idiot too. Its just easy for you to talk about Rob cause you can sit back and give your opinion without thousands of people dissecting each and everything you say
How chris works w this dude everyday is unbeknownst to me!
The Patriots and Tom Brady needed to move on, what's the Biggie
It's funny how he says Tom Brady is washed up. But when the Patriots had Antonio Brown everyone thought it was not fair.
they played Miami
I LIVE IN TAMPA FL LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
You'll love Brady almost as much as we do up in Boston!
Sheesh Rob was roasting Brady in this one. 😭😭😭😭 But to be fair I think Tampa could make the playoffs.
Love listening to these old takes now it's 7/08/2021 lol
I hope rob parker has the descency to kiss the ring when the bucs led by Tom Brady win a super bowl!
Rob Parker has officially turned into a cornball
It’s funny listening back on Robs takes on Tom at this time with the hindsight of how things have gone since. Rob, like so many over the years, balked up and down when pointing out the genuine lack of weapons in NE especially at the end and refusing to allow that reality into his takes on Tom’s performance in the final year with the Pats. Then we witnessed the immediate decline of the Pats without having Tom who clearly covered so many of the teams deficiencies through the years and had an all time knack for cooking a grounder meal with bargain bin groceries at his disposal for the vast majority of his career. Then when he made the move to the Bucs where he had elite weapons to throw to his stat output skyrocketed the first two seasons and he won a Super Bowl. Clearly at the end having weapons at his disposal made a big difference in what we saw him produce and it’s a shame the Pats were never willing to do that in his later years. At the end the Pats took Toms ability to continue producing well despite the tools available to him for granted just like they took his team first mentality for granted. Really was a shame how it all ended there because I’m sure he would’ve loved to have retired a Pat had he been treated better at the end of his time.
I can see Chris's point on the Patriots and Spurs they really are going to be done for a while.
Why was this about Mike? Get some digs in?
There is a difference between dynasty and brand.
A dynasty can be for success over one period in time whereas a brand is for success over different periods in time.
Brand examples: The Yankees, the Lakers and the Celtics.
The Patriots can be called a brand if they are successful in different eras.
The Bulls are not to be considered a brand as what have they done before and after Micheal.
Greatest Dynasties
1. Patriots-I hate them
2. LOMBARDI'S PACKERS- 5 championships in 8 years with 6 championship appearances
3. San Francisco- 5 championships with 2 different quarterbacks
4. Pittsburgh- 4 championships in 6 years
5. Dallas- 3 championships in 4 years
#6. Joe Gibbs Redskins- 3 championships with 3 QBs & 4 super bowl appearances.
My definition of dynasty- 3 or more championships within atleast a 10 year period & your teams were mostly in the running even during the years you didn't win it.
Can't b 1 dynasty when it's two different teams 10 years apart with all different players.
Right on Lee.
Ahhh this aged like a fine carton of milk left on the counter for a week.
xxx Rob Parker!!! Patriots, Tom Brady is the king.
lets be careful with our words, the patriots are a team. was it the whole team who didn't want brady. so man up and call it like it is, billy boy didn't want tom.
I'm blaming Gisele Bundchen
She wears the pants..
She does make more money than Tom................
@Frank Black so is your English..haha
Rob.....c'mon man. the same team leaders for 20 yrs....is a damn Dynasty. I'm not a Pats fan....but I'm being realistic here.
Bill Belichick's ego believes he deserves all the praise. 🐍🐊🐛🐲🐉
Washed up Brady just went to a no playoffs for 13 years Tampa Bay organisation, threw for 40 TDs, then drilled through Brees, Rodgers and Mahomes on route to a Super Bowl championship and Super Bowl MVP. Rob Parker's takes are so bad that I'm starting to think that it's performance art.
it IS a dynasty ROB and IN those 10 they went to 2 SBs - *UOH! a n d had an unD season.
Rob is such a hater of Tom Brady. He's being saying he was washed up 7yrs ago. Anyone knows football can see he is still in the top 6 quarterbacks in NFL. Like Rob but he does this for entertainment. He won't admit it but it's o.k it's radio.
Tom had an ankle injury and no receivers, so washed up? You will eat those words. Again.
Rob is right that's not no 20year dynasty that's b.s
The Patriots was a dynasty...
Not the greatest dynasty of current recent times. F,C Barcelona topped them, or even Real Madrid in recent champions league final wins.
@@DANNY10MADRID who??? kickball?
@@jbloun911 Who? In a sport that is the king of sport, not rugby for sissies like the nfl.
Rob Parker is a pure Tom Brady and the New England Patriots hater.
He ain't the only there are plenty of us out here lol
Blame father time that dude is undefeated on another note ppl hate Rob but they can't stop listening to him lmao
kwabena donkor Oh I can stop. I have stopped. When I see Blob Parker’s name I skip to the comments. There is no point wasting my time listening to this jackass vomiting the same tired old Brady hate he’s been living off of for God knows how long. It’s his cornball lame schtick and is not even remotely interesting anymore. Same old same old lame BS. This sad clown is not fit to clean the mud off Brady’s cleats. Down deep, RP is a shallow, grubbing little weasel. And he knows it.
Thts not a dynasty can't be a dynasty if u ant win 10yrs
Rob Parker hates Tom Brady lol....
always wrong. thats why they are always yelling. dont make it true because you screaming. have to turn down both volumes just to tolerate these guys
Rob, it was a dynasty
Good God teach this guy how to speak
Like I've said along, you can find any dude off the street and do the same things any of these clowns can do.
He is old he should have retired and then he goes and signs a 60 million dollars contract for a 42 year old man
And now we see how well that deal paid off for Tampa. Super Bowl, an MVP level second season and Tom had to carry the injury plagued third year to even get to a postseason. For a team that hsndt even been to a postseason for over a decade I’m sure they feel thst every penny was well spent
@@Matt-cr4vvexactly 💯. They'll remember every bit of that Brady era in Tampa as short as it was. It'll be like a special moment in time in the history of a mostly disappointing franchise.
Who's fault is it the dynasties over?? Easy. Father Time. Nothing lasts forever.
Neither is to blame,it was time to move on...but I'll tell you this I believe Belichick will win 2 more Bowls (eventually)then he'll retire Bucs will be a playoff team but that's it
Who's fault?! Ugh. Things end!they had 20 years! It ended! What u think...Brady at QB when he's 55 and the winning continues?! Gotta blame someone? Blame aging and time! Not on bill or Brady. Chris is the worst talkinghead there is. Rob only reason I watch...worst talking heads to me r CHRIS....Nick....McIntyre....those gotta b top three to me
Excellent response Lee.