I don't mind the Shorts, but to really learn the skill properly requires long form videos and the patience to watch them. Like this one, it's a great lesson that you can't compress into a Short. Keep it up Ben, these are great. I don't even have any more drywall to do in my house but I still like watching these for some reason.
literally looking at sanding our ceiling to smooth it out this weekend, and only an hour ago you posted this. I can't thank you enough! you are my go to person when learning to drywall!
Thanks Ben... I'm retired, but doing handyman work. I've picked-up a lot of good tips and habits from your videos. I do drywall repair which is no longer a nightmare thanks to you. I never take on a job l cant handle. I live in Florida and every blessed wall and ceiling in the state is textured. I figure it was an invention to hide lousy drywall work. It sure is hard to do patchwork and match the existing texture. When you're retired it's not as stressful, l work a few hours and come back the next day. When the job is done, it's done.
wow, thank you so much! It may seem less relevant for you to take the time to show how you really do it, not just show it for 30 seconds and say it's like that everywhere, then jump to the final results, but personally I really like being able to see you do it like that, taking the time to really analyze how you do it, the gestures, the technique, in bref simply seeing you work as if there were no camera, it's worth gold to me. I learn a lot more by seeing how it's done, than by having it explained and simply “demonstrated” to me. Thank you so much, I love this long format!
Love. I"m age 22 and have been in construction for almost 2 years. I did more drywall work before working in construction when I worked for a property management company--lots of drywall repair jobs. We learned here that some texturing has asbestos and wonder if you tested for that and if your great festool sander is good enough not to worry about toxic dust. I remember finding your channel when I was age 18 and looking for drywall tips. You were my go to drywall teacher! Thanks.
I just forgot to mention it but there have been many comments. This building was built around late 90's-2000's so it's fine. And trust me, the festool does an insane job of keeping in the dust.
@@vancouvercarpenter Yeah I saw your love for the festool sander. It is impressive. My assumption is that you would have taken care not to expose yourself to asbestos.
I had a family room with popcorn... absolutely hated it. My solution not only made it look better, but added value to the house. I covered it with 1/2x6" tongue-n-grove and painted it. Certainly not cheap, but I get so many compliments on the look. Loved it so much that I carried it into the kitchen. Also... way, way less messy of a process.
You're a silly goose. I have so many things to say, but they're really just tradesman talk, so I'll skip most. I loved seeing this. I get asked for this a lot here in mpls. I've found the vacuum sander a complete game changer. I've used mud sprayers, rollers, texture rollers, and just like this, one trowel at a time. I prefer a 16" pool float. Your cadence was fantastic. Your process for corners the same. I really dislike doing it, but this makes Such a difference for a job! Burnt out you tuber made me laugh, and I'm glad you're still finding your joy spots. Also, I really enjoy the long form, shorts are nice, but this is much more connected. I get that it's not monetarily sensible, but it's still best in my opinion😜
Man..that Festool is a game changer!! Nothing worse than that first 5 minutes of sanding a ceiling, that dust gets all over you and in your hair, and a shower becomes top priority!
Our textured ceiling turned out to be painted popcorn with asbestos (1972 or so). Glad we had it tested before sanding or scraping. Decided it didn’t look so bad (it does, but we were used to it).
I usually after sanding and before skimming the whole ceiling, go around all the lights and a/c vents and corners with mud. I use a 10” knife around lights and vents, then a 5” ton skim out corners. Great work as always!!
The perfect video that I've been looking for..This is the exact type of ceiling texture that I have..I will try your steps and see what happens..Thank you..
Awe Ben, nice video man! That led halo is something that if you haven't done it, you don't realize how money it is. I'm slightly embarrassed to say I own a maxXT 9" sander that has an led halo. I really don't know how the gearbox hasn't blown up but it has lasted so long but the LED light is incredible for showing how flat the wall, ceiling or subfloor is. I'm literally sitting down for lunch between power vacuum sanding my walls with a Mirka 6" deros to get rid of the orange peel peaks and then I'll be skim coating the main floor walls
Because I viewed the shorts, it seemed to make the long form videos suggested way more. Either way, learned a ton from you over the years so thank you.
I normally hate over-regulation but where popcorn/textured ceilings are concerned, I’d totally support a prohibition on them in new construction. It’s basically a hack for concealing poor construction.
Thanks for another video, even though you don't like doing them anymore. It's understandable, given how much work you put into your content. If you do feel like you want to continue, what do you think about just doing timelapse videos? We can see what you do, and then you can add a voiceover about anything tricky or special. Another idea for a short is what makes for a good project owner. We're starting a reno of our home and I was going to bribe all the tradesfolk with donuts and coffee a couple times a week. Also loved the content with your daughter. And the skate videos, of course.
I really like your RUclips shorts, like you said, they are great for quick tips that don’t need a long form video, but are little nuggets of wisdom nonetheless. I usually use shorts as an entry point to a RUclipsr. I don’t like watching shorts much (although I go down the rabbit hole on occasion) but they are a nice way to find new RUclipsrs, so if I find someone I like, I’ll check out their long-from videos.
The black widow is by far the best finish you can get while sanding. I found its also good at evening out any weird layering too when sponges and regular pole sanders can't.
Great video. I find it very relaxing to watch you work. I agree completely with your least tools philosophy. I also try to do as much as I can with the 12" trowel. 👍🐬
I know you already did it in the past, but I would love a new vídeo showing all your tools you use in drywall works, Sander, vaccum, latter, drywall knives, Pans, trowel etc... would love it!
Question about painting knockdown, orange peel and popcorn ceilings. I used waterbase ceiling paint on a popcorn ceiling once and the popcorn and mud started to come off the ceiling in spots. Is that because it wasn't sealed properly and how do you seal it properly? Oil base primer? Is it the same for all 3 ceiling types I mentioned?
I removed the ceiling texture when I combined two bedrooms into one home office / lounge. I first started by sanding and boy was that a mess. I can't afford that fancy $500 sander so I had to use a regular orbital one. I later tried attaching a vacuum hose to it and that helped but it was heavy and hard to maneuver. So I tried something completely different. I took a squirt bottle full of water and detergent and sprayed it on the ceiling until it was damp. Then I used a mud trowel to just scrape it off. Slid right off. I don't know how effective that is in all situations, and it might damage the drywall on the ceiling if it gets too wet. But it saved me time and choking on dust clouds. The only problem I had was getting paint to stick to the ceiling. It was so smooth paint wouldn't stick to it. But after applying a primer first it painted just fine. Paint with primer in it was useless, wouldn't stick any better than ordinary paint. I only did this on one section of ceiling. I don't remember having to retape and mud between plywood sheets, other than where the wall was removed. I may have had to apply some mud here and there. It's been a while now.
Thank you so much for showing an alternative way to skim. The other videos are really heavy on the roller way and being a total nube that has never held a trowel, it just seemed that there should be an alternate. At 65 I've decided that I hate textured interiors, and am determined to skim my house top to bottom. Not in a hurry, 1/2 a wall here and there is fine. This is a long term project for me. Plan on starting in the closets for skills building, can I use this method to do the walls also? Just a question in general for anyone smarter on this that me. Great day all!
Haha weekend drying is the best! Glad to see you have some vanity along with the function Ben. That durasoft handle looked great on you 😶. Grwat video and i very much appreciate and agree with your skimming methodology, not that you were asking fir affirmation. Deginarely had skim job disasters early on where tge old painted stipple slowly absorbed tge skim mud moisture and would flake off later or release from the drywall. Often i have seen where back in the day ceilings not primed when the stipple was applied. So it realeases much easier. Good to gave a read on your surface with the pre skim test. Another point that i have been burned on so bad is staining. Without qyestion i prime the ceiling after skiming with either Bullseye 123 or Kilz stain blocker. Then hi hide ceiling pai t from Cloverdale. Beautytone ceiling paint is B- Rutal. What crap that the customer supplied. Turned out zebra patterned even after two coats.
You should do time lapse. Just crank the speed up and put some non copyright music in there. This way you can blast your music while we watch you crank the job out. Then just drop in to give tips and chat a little. I just enjoy watching you throw mud down, it’s helped me a lot on my home renovations.
When would you scrape the ceiling instead of sanding or skim coating multiple times? Also is that orange peel or popcorn texture? It looks an awful lot like popcorn.
When you get a new trowel, do you grind down the edges? I've always done that, but I'm not technically any form of a real drywaller. I, for the most part, only do repair work. Just asking.
Thanks yet again for another really good video. I watch them more than once to pick up everything I can. I have a question. Can that Festool sander be used with a standard shop vac or does it rely on their vacuum system?
@@vancouvercarpenterthis is the true answer. I use the old planex with a RIGID shop vac and I have to use duct tape to connect them. Plus the shop vac hose doesn’t maneuver easily like the festool hose. I think I am going to upgrade the hose but now I have to figure out how to adapt it to connect to the shop vac.
yes, it applies to jobs of any size. but if you arent a skilled ceiling skimmer you will have more luck with skimming blades and paint roller to apply the mud.
Thanks for the video! Is there any scenario where you'd prefer to scrape the popcorn fully, first? Or, you will always prefer a skim coat method? Thank you!
Ceiling texture (particularly painted) is the worst design choice in the history of residential building. I had a get rid of painted plaster texture that looked like a wavy surface with a border around the edge. $2,500 to get that covered in one room.
Yes, I am in the same spot and got a quote of $2500 for removal and paint work. I decided to do it myself so far in one month I scraped off that BS thing started skim coating and I feel skim coating is not that easy thing to do it myself 😮
@@skhawar03 Bold project to take on yourself. I would have torn out the drywall and re-hung the ceiling myself if I didn't have loose-fill insulation from the '50s sitting on top of those ceiling panels. Scraping was not possible and I was not about to buy a sander myself. $2,500 was only for removal and skim coat but thankfully it is flat and I took on the paining myself.
Popcorn,particularly painted, is the worst thing. Spray knockdown is alright, although some people hate it. I personally hate a flat ceiling. The thing that makes any material good or bad is the amount of work it will take to renovate it in 15 years. Stomp is right up there, but you can decide to leave the texture the way it is and just paint. Try that with popcorn and 1/4 will be on the ground or on the bottom of your shoe.
Hey Ben Thanks for the great advise and great videos. Could I ask a question ... I know this might be a tough question to answer, but what are a few things I could look to correct if I am often getting bubbles in my mud when skimming. Thanks again. :))
Ben, I am literally tackling this this winter in my basement. What is your opinion on hanging new drywall over top, or is that not an acceptable method?
I am working on a popcorn ceiling in my house. I removed all the popcorn and am just smoothing it out. In some areas, the white layer is coming off when I sand. The drywall hasn't ripped but it looks like paper. Is this something I should BIN to avoid bubbles? I know I should if ripped.
@vancouvercarpenter will do. I am in the beginning of a project and I just came across your shorts. The short videos....not your underwear. HA! But seriously thanks for the reply. I will check them out
Ben is the best drywaller, taper, skimmer, etc on the RUclipss! If I post the link to his playlist, this comment won’t show up, but check out his playlists on every phase of drywalling and finishing.
9:45 why not just use some EasySand quickset with glue? As a terrible DIYer I've begun to use quickset for almost everything just because I don't have to wait AGES for it to dry. Still gotta wait, but with some fans it's hours and not days!
Perhaps i did not hear it, but the skimcoat is done with a "finisher" mud or a joint compound? In the netherlands we either have joint compound (powdered or ready mix) and/ or a finisher (powder and ready mix). Only concrete is than done with regular powdered version. Can anyone elaborate?
we have a few different options at the store in both premixed and powder. i usually use the 3plus. its regional too. different parts of america have different vendors and regulations etc.
A question I woild have about this video is: why not roll it? Don't you think it would be faster? Roll the mud and skimm it? Other question nothing to do with that: Do the contracttor and homw owners use to compare your price and time to get it done with the french plasterers? They use to be cheaper and finish everything in a day (most of them make a poor job, but their prices are always a way lower).
Not sure what it’s like in the us, but textured ceilings over here are often artex- containing asbestos fibres. Sorry to be a safety queen but really worth testing before you sand it.
You are a trip Ben 😉 However, I do worry about your shoulders-you are self-employed, so not getting compensation would be a bad situation. Thank you for the video.
@@vancouvercarpenter Gotcha. That's fair. My question was on your corner bead removal video and asked on those smaller half walls, do you fill the top of the corner bead flat across, thus creating a built up corner where the horizontal part of the half wall meets the vertical wall? If so, then you float the back part of your knife/trowel in order to build it up flat? Sounds challenging to get the mud consistent all the way down the top of the half wall, no?
Why skim vs remove? I have scraped popcorn off of a few ceilings and I feel like that is a much easier job for a DIYer than trying my hand at skimming.
I like when the videos perform half decently. I would love to say I am detached from the video performance but it can really help when you feel like people are receptive to what I am putting g out there. It’s actually been pretty good lately.
Yes! I forgot to mention it. If it has asbestos or you are unsure just do two skim coats without sanding. Maybe prime it with an oil based paint first if it is unprimed.
My cousin hired someone to redo his popcorn ceiling. The guy sanded for one day and then he realized that the texture was made of asbestos. By that point the house was an ecological disaster and they had to hire hazmat experts to clean up.
I've always thought textured walls look sleazy, but I can see the argument for a textured ceiling. Since imperfections that would never be noticed on a wall can stand out like a sore thumb on a ceiling, and any work on a ceiling involves ladders, scaffolding, stilts, etc., it makes what would otherwise be the most tedious part of the job quick and easy. But, if one must texture a ceiling, it's best to use a texture (stipple, comb swirl, knockdown, etc.) that will be easy to skim if anyone ever wants to get rid of it.
I don't mind the Shorts, but to really learn the skill properly requires long form videos and the patience to watch them. Like this one, it's a great lesson that you can't compress into a Short. Keep it up Ben, these are great. I don't even have any more drywall to do in my house but I still like watching these for some reason.
literally looking at sanding our ceiling to smooth it out this weekend, and only an hour ago you posted this. I can't thank you enough! you are my go to person when learning to drywall!
Thanks Ben...
I'm retired, but doing handyman work. I've picked-up a lot of good tips and habits from your videos. I do drywall repair which is no longer a nightmare thanks to you. I never take on a job l cant handle. I live in Florida and every blessed wall and ceiling in the state is textured. I figure it was an invention to hide lousy drywall work. It sure is hard to do patchwork and match the existing texture. When you're retired it's not as stressful, l work a few hours and come back the next day. When the job is done, it's done.
wow, thank you so much! It may seem less relevant for you to take the time to show how you really do it, not just show it for 30 seconds and say it's like that everywhere, then jump to the final results, but personally I really like being able to see you do it like that, taking the time to really analyze how you do it, the gestures, the technique, in bref simply seeing you work as if there were no camera, it's worth gold to me. I learn a lot more by seeing how it's done, than by having it explained and simply “demonstrated” to me. Thank you so much, I love this long format!
The closeups showing what should left for sanding, and why, are gold for us learning how to manage our time. Thank you!
Thank You Ben. Always enjoy your commentary explaining what you are doing for us novice drywallers. Keep Up The Good Work.
primed the ceiling too, wow, id love to paint after you've been through a house, i really would. Great channel, glad i found it.
Love. I"m age 22 and have been in construction for almost 2 years. I did more drywall work before working in construction when I worked for a property management company--lots of drywall repair jobs. We learned here that some texturing has asbestos and wonder if you tested for that and if your great festool sander is good enough not to worry about toxic dust. I remember finding your channel when I was age 18 and looking for drywall tips. You were my go to drywall teacher! Thanks.
I just forgot to mention it but there have been many comments. This building was built around late 90's-2000's so it's fine. And trust me, the festool does an insane job of keeping in the dust.
@@vancouvercarpenter Yeah I saw your love for the festool sander. It is impressive. My assumption is that you would have taken care not to expose yourself to asbestos.
I had a family room with popcorn... absolutely hated it. My solution not only made it look better, but added value to the house. I covered it with 1/2x6" tongue-n-grove and painted it. Certainly not cheap, but I get so many compliments on the look. Loved it so much that I carried it into the kitchen. Also... way, way less messy of a process.
You're a silly goose. I have so many things to say, but they're really just tradesman talk, so I'll skip most.
I loved seeing this. I get asked for this a lot here in mpls. I've found the vacuum sander a complete game changer. I've used mud sprayers, rollers, texture rollers, and just like this, one trowel at a time. I prefer a 16" pool float. Your cadence was fantastic. Your process for corners the same.
I really dislike doing it, but this makes Such a difference for a job!
Burnt out you tuber made me laugh, and I'm glad you're still finding your joy spots.
Also, I really enjoy the long form, shorts are nice, but this is much more connected. I get that it's not monetarily sensible, but it's still best in my opinion😜
Thank you! Actually long form pays way better but like I said, if I'm not doing Shorts as well I'm getting buried.
Man..that Festool is a game changer!!
Nothing worse than that first 5 minutes of sanding a ceiling, that dust gets all over you and in your hair, and a shower becomes top priority!
Our textured ceiling turned out to be painted popcorn with asbestos (1972 or so). Glad we had it tested before sanding or scraping. Decided it didn’t look so bad (it does, but we were used to it).
I usually after sanding and before skimming the whole ceiling, go around all the lights and a/c vents and corners with mud. I use a 10” knife around lights and vents, then a 5” ton skim out corners. Great work as always!!
That's a good system.
The perfect video that I've been looking for..This is the exact type of ceiling texture that I have..I will try your steps and see what happens..Thank you..
Awe Ben, nice video man! That led halo is something that if you haven't done it, you don't realize how money it is. I'm slightly embarrassed to say I own a maxXT 9" sander that has an led halo. I really don't know how the gearbox hasn't blown up but it has lasted so long but the LED light is incredible for showing how flat the wall, ceiling or subfloor is.
I'm literally sitting down for lunch between power vacuum sanding my walls with a Mirka 6" deros to get rid of the orange peel peaks and then I'll be skim coating the main floor walls
As always Ben…an awesome job. Nobody does it better!
You are doing a nice job! I ran a lot of plaster on ceilings over the years and it takes a lot of troweling to get that glass smooth finish!
Thanks!
You are really good at t his. I found you in the nick of time. I have a house full of mixed textures that need to be skimmed.
Thank you so much!!
Because I viewed the shorts, it seemed to make the long form videos suggested way more. Either way, learned a ton from you over the years so thank you.
I did the Vancouver Carpenter method (no planex) and it turned out so good. Plus some glue in the first skim
Love your sander.! If you are doing a lot of work they are vital when it is by the square foot or square yard bid!
I normally hate over-regulation but where popcorn/textured ceilings are concerned, I’d totally support a prohibition on them in new construction. It’s basically a hack for concealing poor construction.
We don't do a lot of texture on the east coast of Canada. I hate texture personally but to each their own lol
Thanks for another video, even though you don't like doing them anymore. It's understandable, given how much work you put into your content.
If you do feel like you want to continue, what do you think about just doing timelapse videos? We can see what you do, and then you can add a voiceover about anything tricky or special. Another idea for a short is what makes for a good project owner. We're starting a reno of our home and I was going to bribe all the tradesfolk with donuts and coffee a couple times a week.
Also loved the content with your daughter. And the skate videos, of course.
Time lapse and voiceover is actually more work than videos like this believe it or not. It's less on site filming but it's way more time in editing.
I really like your RUclips shorts, like you said, they are great for quick tips that don’t need a long form video, but are little nuggets of wisdom nonetheless. I usually use shorts as an entry point to a RUclipsr. I don’t like watching shorts much (although I go down the rabbit hole on occasion) but they are a nice way to find new RUclipsrs, so if I find someone I like, I’ll check out their long-from videos.
The black widow is by far the best finish you can get while sanding. I found its also good at evening out any weird layering too when sponges and regular pole sanders can't.
Great video. I find it very relaxing to watch you work. I agree completely with your least tools philosophy. I also try to do as much as I can with the 12" trowel. 👍🐬
Always great to see your work.. Thank you, Ben, for sharing the voyage! 🤠👍
5:41 that was a slick catch of falling mud
I know you already did it in the past, but I would love a new vídeo showing all your tools you use in drywall works, Sander, vaccum, latter, drywall knives, Pans, trowel etc... would love it!
Great work as always, keep it up!
Question about painting knockdown, orange peel and popcorn ceilings. I used waterbase ceiling paint on a popcorn ceiling once and the popcorn and mud started to come off the ceiling in spots. Is that because it wasn't sealed properly and how do you seal it properly? Oil base primer? Is it the same for all 3 ceiling types I mentioned?
Knockdown and orange peel should be fine to paint with waterbase. Oil or shellac for popcorn.
@@vancouvercarpenter Thx !!!
I removed the ceiling texture when I combined two bedrooms into one home office / lounge. I first started by sanding and boy was that a mess. I can't afford that fancy $500 sander so I had to use a regular orbital one. I later tried attaching a vacuum hose to it and that helped but it was heavy and hard to maneuver. So I tried something completely different. I took a squirt bottle full of water and detergent and sprayed it on the ceiling until it was damp. Then I used a mud trowel to just scrape it off. Slid right off. I don't know how effective that is in all situations, and it might damage the drywall on the ceiling if it gets too wet. But it saved me time and choking on dust clouds. The only problem I had was getting paint to stick to the ceiling. It was so smooth paint wouldn't stick to it. But after applying a primer first it painted just fine. Paint with primer in it was useless, wouldn't stick any better than ordinary paint. I only did this on one section of ceiling. I don't remember having to retape and mud between plywood sheets, other than where the wall was removed. I may have had to apply some mud here and there. It's been a while now.
Thank you so much for showing an alternative way to skim. The other videos are really heavy on the roller way and being a total nube that has never held a trowel, it just seemed that there should be an alternate. At 65 I've decided that I hate textured interiors, and am determined to skim my house top to bottom. Not in a hurry, 1/2 a wall here and there is fine. This is a long term project for me. Plan on starting in the closets for skills building, can I use this method to do the walls also? Just a question in general for anyone smarter on this that me. Great day all!
Yes it will work for walls.
Good to see you back. Job well done
Great job, good tips. I’m actually doing a job kind of like this right now. What kind of primer do you use ? Thank you for all your help
Haha weekend drying is the best! Glad to see you have some vanity along with the function Ben. That durasoft handle looked great on you 😶.
Grwat video and i very much appreciate and agree with your skimming methodology, not that you were asking fir affirmation. Deginarely had skim job disasters early on where tge old painted stipple slowly absorbed tge skim mud moisture and would flake off later or release from the drywall. Often i have seen where back in the day ceilings not primed when the stipple was applied. So it realeases much easier. Good to gave a read on your surface with the pre skim test.
Another point that i have been burned on so bad is staining. Without qyestion i prime the ceiling after skiming with either Bullseye 123 or Kilz stain blocker. Then hi hide ceiling pai t from Cloverdale. Beautytone ceiling paint is B- Rutal. What crap that the customer supplied. Turned out zebra patterned even after two coats.
Thanks. I've learned so much from you. Thank you.
"Feather those edges" ...wised mantra.
Beautiful work! Great video
Thanks for sharing. Keep it coming brother!
The harness for the planex is so worth saving your shoulders
You should do time lapse. Just crank the speed up and put some non copyright music in there. This way you can blast your music while we watch you crank the job out. Then just drop in to give tips and chat a little. I just enjoy watching you throw mud down, it’s helped me a lot on my home renovations.
Can I just skim coat over if the ceiling is textured and oil base paint or do I need to prime it first
do you prime before skimming a textured wall?
Oh good, I’m glad you made a video about this!!
When would you scrape the ceiling instead of sanding or skim coating multiple times? Also is that orange peel or popcorn texture? It looks an awful lot like popcorn.
When you get a new trowel, do you grind down the edges? I've always done that, but I'm not technically any form of a real drywaller. I, for the most part, only do repair work. Just asking.
Thanks yet again for another really good video. I watch them more than once to pick up everything I can. I have a question. Can that Festool sander be used with a standard shop vac or does it rely on their vacuum system?
I'm not sure. you might struggle finding the right adapters but you might be able to make it work.
@@vancouvercarpenterthis is the true answer. I use the old planex with a RIGID shop vac and I have to use duct tape to connect them. Plus the shop vac hose doesn’t maneuver easily like the festool hose. I think I am going to upgrade the hose but now I have to figure out how to adapt it to connect to the shop vac.
Great video and work. Would you recommend skim coating for larger textured ceilings (i.e. several floors in a home)?
yes, it applies to jobs of any size. but if you arent a skilled ceiling skimmer you will have more luck with skimming blades and paint roller to apply the mud.
yes it still works.
Thanks for the video! Is there any scenario where you'd prefer to scrape the popcorn fully, first? Or, you will always prefer a skim coat method? Thank you!
Yes. If it's unpainted popcorn with no asbestos.
Ceiling texture (particularly painted) is the worst design choice in the history of residential building. I had a get rid of painted plaster texture that looked like a wavy surface with a border around the edge. $2,500 to get that covered in one room.
Yes, I am in the same spot and got a quote of $2500 for removal and paint work. I decided to do it myself so far in one month I scraped off that BS thing started skim coating and I feel skim coating is not that easy thing to do it myself 😮
@@skhawar03 Bold project to take on yourself. I would have torn out the drywall and re-hung the ceiling myself if I didn't have loose-fill insulation from the '50s sitting on top of those ceiling panels. Scraping was not possible and I was not about to buy a sander myself. $2,500 was only for removal and skim coat but thankfully it is flat and I took on the paining myself.
Popcorn,particularly painted, is the worst thing. Spray knockdown is alright, although some people hate it. I personally hate a flat ceiling. The thing that makes any material good or bad is the amount of work it will take to renovate it in 15 years. Stomp is right up there, but you can decide to leave the texture the way it is and just paint. Try that with popcorn and 1/4 will be on the ground or on the bottom of your shoe.
Any concerns with ACM in older textured ceilings?
Yes. I forgot to mention it.
As a side question, are there any primers you recommend?
Sherwin Williams multi surface primer
@ thanks!
Hey Ben
Thanks for the great advise and great videos.
Could I ask a question ...
I know this might be a tough question to answer, but what are a few things I could look to correct if I am often getting bubbles in my mud when skimming.
Thanks again. :))
There is no good solution. It's a painted wall thing. I have a couple videos. Search bubbles in drywall mud.
Ben, I am literally tackling this this winter in my basement. What is your opinion on hanging new drywall over top, or is that not an acceptable method?
Have you done a video on repairing an old joint crack? If not, could you do one?
Lots of them.
I am working on a popcorn ceiling in my house. I removed all the popcorn and am just smoothing it out. In some areas, the white layer is coming off when I sand. The drywall hasn't ripped but it looks like paper. Is this something I should BIN to avoid bubbles? I know I should if ripped.
Try painting a test area with regular primer.
I'm a big fan of doing 2 coats and 1 skim. I don't do a lot of texture skimming however.
How about a video on having to put a drywall patch in an existing wall that has been finished. Painted and all. How does one tape and mud THAT?
I'm pretty sure I have hundreds of those. Just search back a little.
@vancouvercarpenter will do. I am in the beginning of a project and I just came across your shorts. The short videos....not your underwear. HA! But seriously thanks for the reply. I will check them out
Is there any courses that are put together already to go through step by step on how to drywall?
Ben is the best drywaller, taper, skimmer, etc on the RUclipss!
If I post the link to his playlist, this comment won’t show up, but check out his playlists on every phase of drywalling and finishing.
Short is sweet. 😀
steps to take painted knockdown texture walls to smooth finish then paint again walls?
Just do two skim coats over it. Should come out nice.
@vancouvercarpenter two skim coats? Do I sand the painted knockdown first? Or just skim it sand skim sand paint? Thank you
What brand and type drywall mud did you use?
CGC Lite line. It's an all purpose light.
@@vancouvercarpenter Do you recommend it for a first-timer?
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9:45 why not just use some EasySand quickset with glue?
As a terrible DIYer I've begun to use quickset for almost everything just because I don't have to wait AGES for it to dry. Still gotta wait, but with some fans it's hours and not days!
Nice chunk @ 25:15
Looks great
The angled sanding head link doesn't look like the one you used in the video :(
I think I just chose the closest available brand.
Thanks
Here's my pro tips for dealing with popcorn ceilings:
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Perhaps i did not hear it, but the skimcoat is done with a "finisher" mud or a joint compound? In the netherlands we either have joint compound (powdered or ready mix) and/ or a finisher (powder and ready mix). Only concrete is than done with regular powdered version. Can anyone elaborate?
we have a few different options at the store in both premixed and powder. i usually use the 3plus. its regional too. different parts of america have different vendors and regulations etc.
Skim coat is done with ready-mix. All Purpose lite.
@@vancouvercarpenter thnx for the reply, deeply appreciate it!❤
Ben, is that a Street Dogs tee?
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@@vancouvercarpenter OI! :)
A question I woild have about this video is: why not roll it? Don't you think it would be faster? Roll the mud and skimm it?
Other question nothing to do with that: Do the contracttor and homw owners use to compare your price and time to get it done with the french plasterers? They use to be cheaper and finish everything in a day (most of them make a poor job, but their prices are always a way lower).
Just got done skimming
Not sure what it’s like in the us, but textured ceilings over here are often artex- containing asbestos fibres. Sorry to be a safety queen but really worth testing before you sand it.
100%, gotta be certain before sanding. He knows he just forgot to mention.
US quit using any and all asbestos products in 1978-79. Any projects after 83' are safe from asbestos.
This place was not old enough to be asbestos but yes, I should have mentioned it.
Can someone tell me when Ben means by "hot" mud?
Quick set like 20 or 90 minute mud
You are a trip Ben 😉 However, I do worry about your shoulders-you are self-employed, so not getting
compensation would be a bad situation.
Thank you for the video.
I’ll be okay. I do lots of different types of work. It’s not this every day.
@ That’s good to know my friend 💙
Sad u didn't answer my question on one of your shorts :(
I'm not reading the comments on shorts. They are mostly too toxic. Not good for my mental health.
@@vancouvercarpenter Gotcha. That's fair. My question was on your corner bead removal video and asked on those smaller half walls, do you fill the top of the corner bead flat across, thus creating a built up corner where the horizontal part of the half wall meets the vertical wall? If so, then you float the back part of your knife/trowel in order to build it up flat? Sounds challenging to get the mud consistent all the way down the top of the half wall, no?
Why skim vs remove? I have scraped popcorn off of a few ceilings and I feel like that is a much easier job for a DIYer than trying my hand at skimming.
when texture is painted, it is usually a royal pain to scrape it off.
It's orange peel, not popcorn. Why can't people understand the difference. They are totally different.
It's painted though. Super hard to scrape off.
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Popcorn properly called stipple. Prior to the advent use of texture which is loosely described as soft drywall compound
I know you no longer enjoy this, but we appreciate it anyway
I like when the videos perform half decently. I would love to say I am detached from the video performance but it can really help when you feel like people are receptive to what I am putting g out there. It’s actually been pretty good lately.
dont sand tho if its old/untested for asbestos!
Yes! I forgot to mention it. If it has asbestos or you are unsure just do two skim coats without sanding. Maybe prime it with an oil based paint first if it is unprimed.
My cousin hired someone to redo his popcorn ceiling. The guy sanded for one day and then he realized that the texture was made of asbestos. By that point the house was an ecological disaster and they had to hire hazmat experts to clean up.
I’m sure that wasn’t the first time.
don't forget that some popcorn ceilings have asbestos in them
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Our entire house has popcorn. Ugh….
Thanks, eh.
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Long form is better
I'm working on it. I've just been busy.
Who even likes or wants textured walls at this point
Every, fckng, one in The Netherlands!
Unless it a customer built home, the builders usually do them by default and then up charge for smooth ceilings, calling it an upgrade.
it is a regional thing. in some places smooth finish is premium. and in some, texture is the premium. like the southwest, colorado area, etc.
😂 Everything in the US and many parts of Canada is textured as well.
I've always thought textured walls look sleazy, but I can see the argument for a textured ceiling. Since imperfections that would never be noticed on a wall can stand out like a sore thumb on a ceiling, and any work on a ceiling involves ladders, scaffolding, stilts, etc., it makes what would otherwise be the most tedious part of the job quick and easy. But, if one must texture a ceiling, it's best to use a texture (stipple, comb swirl, knockdown, etc.) that will be easy to skim if anyone ever wants to get rid of it.
Huge fan @vancouvercarpenter
Mine has 9% asbestos so Im not scraping it.