Breaker Swipes $1 MILLION DOLLARS in Sports Card Boxes?
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024
- Blowout Cards, a large supplier of sports card boxes, has sued breaker Platinum Card Breaks for $945k plus interest, alleging that between October 2023 and February 2024 Platinum didn't pay Blowout for the wax it was getting from Blowout. We talk about that and more on today's cards on the table.
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Breakers have killed the hobby. They are nothing more than the same resellers who use bots to buy the hottest concert tickets, Jordan, Nike shoe releases and sporting event tickets. I feel a lot of breakers aren't in it for the love of it they want the 1/1 or whoever is hot in the sporting world currently
Was just going post something similar.
It's not like it's hard to find product. Why anyone would pay anyone else to open cards for them in 2024 is silly.
Open your own stuff or buy the singles you're trying to "pull" thru these breaks. I'm guessing for every 1 you make out ok on you lose enough on the others to just buy the damn card
Its impossible to find product here in Tacoma WA tho tbh
@@fazejmo1953Yea its hard to find product to rip yourself slot I mean I haven't got any 23-24 optic,Revolution or select basketball.this yr I wasn't gonna go to my LCS for retail product priced 2x of cost..they need to limit what they sell people man I had no issue in the 90s as a kid
I understand that may be the case, and also that there has to be some trepidation to buy anything high end or high chase online with the CT scan concerns.
You think breakers have burner accounts that would automatically/inevitably put them in team spots like Houston Texans, San Antonio Spurs, Kansa City Chiefs, Pittsburg Pirates, Cincinnati Reds, and maybe any other teams popular enough to reserve for themselves?
Agree with T-Pott! The parallels are out of control.
The parallels keep things interesting for me. I don’t want to go back in time to when all you could reasonably expect to get is base, base, and just base.
Parallels are the illusion of scarcity. When there’s 20 versions of a to 299 it’s not scarce overall. Long term these cards won’t hold up
I would like to add that I feel a lot of breakers have their friends in the chat bidding up spots or buying them out completely hoping some sucker will outbid them. Breakers are used car salesman that sell you something for 10x what it’s worth
Not even a breaker, but 10X what it's worth is a HUGE stretch. They often go 0.5-1.5X the cost of the box. Where did you do your math?
@@Kybonebetter question is… where did you do your math?
It doesn't matter, there the same as a reseller all in it for profit and really don't care about the hobby. Now all of them aren't like that and I'm not saying it that way. But some breakers ruin it for some people and it puts a bad taste in your mouth towards breakers.
Damn a million in sealed wax? That’s almost $20k in hits after opened.
😂 finally someone with a sense of humor, not complaining like their "BAA" needs to be herd along with the 10,000 other sheep
Underrated
1 million in wax 5 years ago was 100k in wax for the exact same boxes and the boxes were better 5 years ago lol
Can’t stand breakers. They seem to get preferential cards. Debt needs to be paid.
It really is. Think about it, breakers place in the market initially was access to hobby at a lower point of entry. Since the value/ inflation has gotten arguably 4 times worse and most of their margins on top of that for single teams are sick. I’ve completely reserved myself to singles.
@@tylerseger6718Agree! Breaks used to be great ways to get cheaper rookies. I bought into several cheap breaks when DK Metcalf (sometimes Seahawks fan) and Cooper Kupp (Eastern WA) were rookies. If I had chased other rookies, I probably wouldn't have been so lucky.
Today...prices are more than the cards you could possibly get. It isn't even close to gambling now, because I would bet that 1 in 1,000 teams breaks even.
Its call Karma for these distributors. Don't feel sorry for them. They made tens of millions extra selling to these breakers.
And Trump seems to be a terrible guy... it's almost like media/press ehich highlights the 5% or less bad can scue your view 🤔
@@comicscentral8585what did tbe distributors do wrong exactly buddy?
Doesn't platinum card breaks have a history of stealing cards during breaks?
Yep, the big one was the Fields NT redemption. Then "found" it in the trash.
They are scumbags. First video I ever watched was bad vibes from the get go. Why anybody trusts them is beyond me... people don't use common sense.
Teapot had me rolling 🤣🤣
Great episode guys 👏🏼👏🏼
No surprise it’s platinum card breaks 🤦🏽
Best episode yet. T-Pott was fired up!
you know your guilty when the comments are turned off
Breakers have absolutely DESTROYED this hobby............
Also, why would any distributor allow breakers to operate on credit or delayed payments?
Why does any business take credit card payments?
It's the only way lol.
Can't we just get back to like Topps, Fleer, UpperDeck, packs at the grocery checkout, local comic book store or card shop, grab a few packs as a kid or adult wtvr, pay a normal price, go home rip em and maybe you get something cool or your favorite player, and you're happy 😮 and sure if you get some CRAZY rare card grade it keep it flip it up to you... and that's kinda it 💯🤘But also NOT print 100 bazillion copies of everything....that would be AWESOME to me 👌🔥
17:15
Doug’s classic reaction. 😆❤️
A similar situation happened in Montreal recently over 1 Millions CAD
T-Pott the GOAT for that parallel rant! He doesn’t miss when he goes off like that.
What software are you using to shoot these episodes?
MS Paint
@@RobbieDigglers3rdEyereally?? How do you know?
Never front … not even to your best friend…. Not even to a customer who keeps coming back to purchase…. A honest loyal man that asks for help , only needs to get fronted one time. If he comes back with more money then you expected him to make and wants to purchases more off you then maybe “MAYBE” front him a couple more boxes to flip and then STOP. Especially to a box breaker, that’s a high risk. LOYALTY POINTS THAT YOU CAN EARN OFF EACH PURCHASE IS A-LOT BETTER THEN A PAYMENT PLAN
You guys are killing the hobby!! Making it impossible for true collectors. INCLUDING YOU SIR!
YOU ARE KILLING YOURSELF COMMENTING ABOUT KILLING ON VIDEOS
STOP FUCKING COMPLAINING LIKE A WOMAN AND BE A MAN
BE A FUCKING MAN AND STOP TAKING MIRROR SELFIES
@@Kybone Don't be a pecker head, he's not wrong about G-off
it's easier to be a collector now, more than ever
False.
I just popped over on Platinum. He still has simps acting tough in his chat. "People say crap on the internet but wouldn't say it to your face." What does that have to do with anything? Does that make the facts less true? Fake tough guys.
I actually agree with the old man. Keep Bowman pure. If you want to put peanut variations in the product, fine, put it in Topps. Topps is fun and different. Bowman is pure, no gimmicks.
I'm gonna do it. My biggest card purchase ever a 25/25 Black Velocity Rookie card of Alphonso Davies. Top card.
Platinum is a special kind of corrupt.
T pot 100000% correct
T-Pott, I'm with ya!! If it isn't broke don't fix it!! Plus now breakers, stores, etc can just weigh the box to find those packs.
Card collecting is about individual collectors and hobby shops not breakers
I love teapot, my favorite part of the show
Me too ! 😂
I suspect he re-cellophanes product too. I watched them cut the wrap and the seal on some NT product. The seal looks already cut, just hard to see through the cellophane. He's been caught skimming already. I wouldn't doubt that opens and repacks product. When was the last time you saw a HUGE hit from them, never!!
G - all you had to do is be an honest breaker and things would have gone well for you!
Been watching the virtual since covid and cant wait for the next one🙏
I agree with tpot too many parallels to begin with.
Great Show!!! Tea Pot cracked 😂 me up big time with that comment about the Hot dog insert card.
Ohtani cards connected to this will go into a “Special” Ohtani Box at the cool price every baseline hobbyists can enjoy for $8500 a box! Then You can break with Platinum Card Breaks for 8 spot box break at 5k a spot 😂😂
..awesome panel, I feel like i'm watching sportscenter!...
I've never understood buying into breaks.. people say it's because they can't afford to buy boxes, but yet they over pay for packs and get into a lot of breaks lol. Second why would you want to watch someone else open your packs??? That makes no sense at all. 3rd if you are going to buy into breaks just have them send you the packs to open yourself.
Breakers have ruined it for the hobby and eBay sellers. Now they have breakers delight boxes. Good luck getting a huge hit if you buy hobby or jumbo boxes.
Breakers retail scalpers including some hobby shops and Topps have ruined the hobby
😂😂😂😂😂 they are cool! Hotdog parallel is the best.
Game used UFO patches - T-pott 😂😂
I can’t wait to see your budding popcorn parallel Pc 😂. Yo
Arena Club -- Trying to figure out which Brady jersey was white with red letters 🤔 Could be wrong, but feel like there were no red letters until he got to Tampa Bay, years later...
Damn for a second I thought that was a $1M story about a Christmas Stollen bread :P
Teapots rant was a joy to behold. Love Teapot
T-Pott, tell us how you really feel about the parallels 😀
Not interested in these new parallels, but it makes sense. I'd be ok with it, if it replaced some other parallels, as opposed to adding them to the already ridiculous list of parallels. TPott makes a good point, though about being able to weigh the difference. I also get his point about this being Bowman, but being in Bowman Draft bothers me less.
Arena club, where 98% come back at the floor.
Do Breakers have any of the Topp's Fanatics guidelines to abide by?? It seems like the local shops have to fall in line but then this happens?? This goes along with the Gambling business...
Greed and no morals
I used to Break with them, they were good at the start but when i had to start messaging (Multiple Times)them that my cards had not been shipped for months at a time and they would tell me that they forgot to ship. After that i stopped Breaking with them.
You guys went from SUPER positive & would call out the tubers who called out the bs!! And now you done Hulk hogan and NWO'd the industry 🦸♂️
T-Pott is 100% correct in my opinion these parallels are getting silly now.
Are you ever going to have cards graded at Cards HQ?
This is rich, when crooks call out other crooks 😂
Those parallels are meant for big league or topps flagships
Or kinda more like topps opening
Good information Jeff
It’s STOLEN, not STOLLEN.
Stollen is a German fruit bread.
You knew what he meant my friend
Breakers didnt ruin the hobby...the manufacturers did. When I was a kid you could buy a box of cards for under 20 bucks. Now that might get you ONE PACK. The manufacturers have RUINED the hobby with short prints 1/1 parallels expensive wax and chase cards. People arnt collecting because of who is on the card, they are chasing to make a quick buck and flip for a profit. If it wasnt for these massive chases there wouldnt even be breakers. Bring back the art of collecting for collecting sake. If nobody bought these over hyped and under manufactured quantity of cards maybe the card companies would stop making boxes cost thousands of dollars and you could get something actually at a reasonable price and not have to sell a kidney to get players you want, not players to sell.
Your an idiot breakers single handedly changed the pricing if boxes. Just a few years ago boxes of NT were still only $500 direct from panini but breakers were making THOUSANDS like 15k a case breaking it so then panini was like o snap let's start selling some ourselves so they started doing FOTL then they are like why don't we just raise our prices closer to what the new retail is. But it was 100% because of breakers
T-Pott is easily the best thing about these 😂
I have never opened a box of cards in my life. Only buy singles from the flea market in my area and Ebay. Would be cool to win a box in the giveaway soon! Good luck everyone.
I have to agree with T-Pot I don't like it just the look makes the card look cheap. Keep up the great work T-Pot big fan. Help me out a lot since I'm a beginner in collecting cards.
these idiots are giving away boxes on credit?? LMAO
Wouldn't expect nothing less from platinum
I joined a break last night for some Bowman Debut and was having a good time until they changed breakers. The guy that came on had a horrible attitude (having bad day probably) but just took the mood from a 50 to a 1. Getting angry with the chat because spots were selling for $30-40 a spin (2 jumbo draft boxes). Telling the chat they need to be over $60+ a team and at one point stopped the $1 bidding in middle of the spins to $60 min bid. Like wtf. Think his name was Tizzy on Ontopps Breaks. All the guys there are so nice but this guy was a jerk. First off, $60+ a team x30 teams is $1800/2 $900 a box? The greed is real both from breakers and the product itself. It’s a rich man’s hobby now
The hobby is not really booming rn. These guys are full of crap. I run a hobby shop, sales are way way down.
Product cost too much. Now they have “breakers delight” boxes. Good luck getting a great pull when all of them are going in those boxes
This is breaking summed up to me. Shady folks taking advantage as long as given the opportunity
People complaining and still a 530 dollar box of 2024 draft goes out of stock
Breaking is about all I can afford to do anymore besides buying singles; and I’m not poor by any stretch. Stuff like s1-update, Hoops, Donruss, Elite, etc i Can do but it’s almost not worth it the way I collect. I collect PC teams/players, I don’t sell/trade. Boxes got nuts, cheaper to break, Fanatics got what they wanted. But the guy at Platinum is one of never give a dime too, seems like a POS
Platinum breaks is a crapstain on the hobby. Having them fail will help everyone.
Be alright card companies made retail cheaper and available and versions of good cards everybody could afford instead of catering to breakers
Breakers are the main cause wax prices are still too high compared to singles. It's not fair that I have 2 lcs that get a small amount of total product compared to an a** hat like the one at platinum. Stop buying in breaks and let them eat that money. They don't want to hold onto it at all. There is no reason for the cost of this hobby for new cards except that there are more people who don't know what they are doing or that are too lazy to buy stuff themselves. We keep empowering breakers and they now control the industry.
I’m not sure if it’s the most significant from a $$ standpoint. $500-$1k would hurt the average consumer a lot more than $1m hurts blowout cards. I’m not saying blowout is a billion $$ company but if you can extend $1m credit to 1 customer you will make it!!
In Platinum's case I think it's a mixture of their antics catching up to them and bigger breakers entering the market. Years ago Platinum was one of the only, if not THE only, breakers opening high-end. Industries change and companies come and go.
It only takes a few breakers to give breaking a bad name. Then all of a sudden breakers are blamed for everything. I break for fun and hardly make anything ... I don't drive box prices up as I get boxes at the same price as everyone else. I cant even imagine a company letting another company run up 1Million in debt. In the end there are plenty of good breakers out there just need to find one :) or just not break 👍
Gotta love the greed
Like #1 to you!!! More Box Battles Please!!!
Platinum isn't paying any default judgement either way. Next headline is platinum files bankruptcy.
It’s great that Fanatics fest is back in NYC. There nothing that big here in NYC other than comic con.
T-POT IS THE BEST!!! 💪
LOWER THE PRICES ON THESE BOXES AND WE WILL START BUYING AGAIN!!!
Imagine a game used relic of chewed up bubblegum or spit out sunflower seeds 😅
T-Pott is the GOAT!!!
Rather than some cheap parallels, Topps should have made a white elephant card for Christmas - trade the card for anything in the Topps Vault.
Doug ain't going nowhere without his cowboy hat
Second hand card market is so volatile i stopped collecting cards for the following reasons.
- kurts card cleaner who knows how many second hand cards are out there with this stuff on them
- ct scanning sealed products alot of people forget this is a thing now and it is definitely getting used in the secondhand market
- Beckett scandal putting a bad stamp on grading.
- card collecting has shifted to more a slot machine in a foil pack.
- no value for many anymore unless its a chase.
- breakers constantly stealing and scamming people
- fakes are getting better and better everyday
- scalpers msrp is a thing of the past for card collecting
Let'ssss go T-Pott!!!!! Wooooooo!! 🤠
I’m not a fan of “Let’s Go!” social media breakers in general, it’s not at all as bad a those repackaging mystery box “pass the trash” sellers, but the way many of the breakers present themselves seems kind of sleazy or douchey.
I bought into a few breaks from eBay sellers who sold spots by player names both a direct buy by name as well as the randomizer assignment without problems, as they broadcast the break… but it felt kinda uninspired for my tastes. Oddly, some of these sellers charge shipping up front when no players get pulled and nothing is sent.
Vegas🎉🎉🎉
Who wrote "STOLLEN"? I watch often.... TY.
More T-pott quick edits. King T-pottius
Most breakers have ruined the hobby because how are you supposed to teach your kids what the hobbies really like when you got breakers that are raising the prices on everything you can't teach your kids anything about it
Are retail cards reject from the hobby version?, most of my card purchases are retail, and most of these cards are all over the place, some too low some too high some not even close to being centred, worst of all you do get a lot of bent tips,
$17 tall boy parallels anyone??🎉😂
Make sure you leave some money in the budget to come to the west coast card show
$1M Stollen??? C'mon Geoff, I know you have autocorrect lol scary situation giving the honest breakers a bad name
I was just going to post something about that. First thing I noticed lol.
When the Monster turns on its Creator!
dont trust disturbers' either heard they ct scan boxes too but i know group breakers do reason they get some many big hits.
You’re a mean one , Mr T-Pot lmao
Didnt T-Pot buy an Olajuwon Credentials out from under me awhile back???
There a bunch of crooks, im one of the ones that never recieved product from them from a few breaks. I hope they het what they have coming to them. And i dont break anymore because ive seen more then them do it espically woth big wemby hits. Im done i will not break with anyone ever agin.
21:40 😂😂😂
Its bad business when u are a owner of a sports card shop and they will give 1st choice of cases to breakers with no lic than a brick n mortar atore pathetic in all honesty.
I dont mind the breakers i blame the distributors