ACDelco Oil Filter UPF63R Cut Open vs. Wix Oil Filter WL10255 Cut Open
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2022
- Oil Filter Inspection.
Is the ACDelco oil filter better than the Wix oil filter? Which one would you use? Let's open them up and see what's inside!
ACDelco UPF63R: www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....
Wix WL10255:www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....
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Please search GM Service Bulletin 19-NA-020. The design of the AC Delco filter is very specific for a reason and the can and baseplate are thicker for a second good reason. Wix makes great filters but for this application I would only use the Delco. The WIX is not sufficiently built in my estimation for the pressures of the GM 3.6L in cold temps. Please read the bulletin and make up your own mind. Thanks for the great videos.
Your Welcome AL!
Is this the correct service bulletin?
static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10181678-9999.pdf
@@WhipCityWrencher Yes! That is the correct bulletin. Thanks for posting it.
Glad you revisited the 63. Lots of rumors around about the E, F, normal
I would favor the Wix due to the better micron rating of filtration
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Thank you for your thorough comparison of these two oil filters. I started using Wix a few years ago for all filters in my three vehicles and never had any issues. It's great to see an unbiased side to side comparison. Thanks again for your time!!
You're Very Welcome,
Thanks for Watching👍
I would give the win to the wix and save $2 at that ! Nice video !
Thanks, Scotty!
Iv used both but tbh the amsoil filter I thinks the best Iv used. Thanks good video
I am taking the wix, because of the extra filtration and the children spring. But, have to admit I am disappointed in the wix in the spacing of the media.
Great video, well done!
Thank you!
Hi Jason, Your Welcome! and
thanks for your feedback!
Both are good. I would go with the Wix. Very good video with showing us the difference between both filters. TFS Merri :)
Thanks, Merri, 😊
Thanks for this look inside of another two filters. Wix looks better.
Hi Steven, Your Welcome!
Thanks great info 👍
The WIX would be my choice. Very good quality.
like the wix more oil flow& filtration. like your work mate
Thanks, Steve.
Glad you liked the video.
Wix! 50" more filter media...uh, yeah! And it cost less...not to difficult to figure out. WIX for the win🏆
I had both of those filters on hand. Now I know
Wix filters for me!
Go with Wix. Good show.
Thanks👍
They both have pluses and minuses. Delco’s base plate seems to be of better quality, but Wix has more holes. Wix also has more filter media. And, so it’s a personal preference as to which filter to use. Another great video! 👍
Thanks, Ella 👍😊
@@WhipCityWrencher, You’re Welcome! Have a Great Spring! 🌿🌷🌷🌷🌿
I was wondering what filter would go on a 2020 GMC Acadia 3.6 V6?we bought it new and the dealer changed the oil once.I have always changed my own.Plan to run Mobil 1.
@@dennisgood2108, Whip City Wrencher, Please Take Notice! Pete, You are much more knowledgeable when it comes to filters.
@@WhipCityWrencher, Please take a look at the above comment! Your input is needed with regard to filters. Thanks! 😊
After hearing how bad Fram is, as well as a few others, it seems from your tests, they are really pretty close. I’ve using Fram since I was a kid, and Im old as hell, and I’ve never had any kind of failures. So, as long as you don’t buy something from Dollar General, I think you are gonna be ok.
I was experiencing low oil pressure in my 6.0L with a SuperTech MP10060 (~PF48) and decided to give the UPF63R a shot. So far I've noticed about a 5psi improvement at idle/cruise and a 10psi improvement during acceleration. I'll keep my eye on it and see if it maintains that through the life of the oil.
Hi Nathaniel,
Thanks for Sharing!👍
Thank you for the video excellent comparison. I switched over to using Wix filters and Amsoil oil and I am very satisfied with the results.
Glad you liked the video and Thanks for sharing!👍
I mostly like the AC Delco Ultra Guard but it's not available across a a wide variety of cars. I can get all 3 versions of Purolator across the vast majority of applications and it's made in America. So, I'm mostly sticking with Purolator. I like to try various experiments with other oil filters with lower change intervals just to see what happens. From here on out I plan to send my used ones with lesser known brands to Whip City Wrenchers. Keep up the good work!
Hi Joseph, Thanks I'll take them.
I like to open used ones as well after all that's how we see how well they hold up.
Try Amsoil
Joseph Purolator like WIX filters are both owned by Mann+Hummel Germany, literally they are sister companies.
I like and i prefer Purolator but will use AC Delco jujt my Preference
I use wix XP, can go 4000 to 5000 between oil change, good for highway driving, extreme driving, heavy loads, also city driving like stop and go, I never mess with acdelco, jus parts like spark plugs, great video
Thanks for sharing👍
I use these AC Delco gold filters for my Buick...these are well made filters & are way better than the standard Delco (blue can) filters....these was basically the same filters as the old Mobil1 oil filters that was basically a Delco gold before Mobil 1 switched to Mann & Hummel for the newer filters
Why
@@kenj.8897 the new blue can AC Delco filters (E Core) is basically junk like the orange can Fram! The older Blue Delco filters was way better than the current ones .....even GM has service bulletins to use the UPK gold filters over the standard AC Delco filter on the V6 Buiick lacrosse & other models ...the black AC Delco filters (Gold) are basically the heavy duty fleet filters used by many fleet & police departments! They had these for years but wasn't widely used for general use .....as for Mobil 1 switching suppliers was the cost & Mann& Hummel probably build them for a cheaper price per unit than Delco/ Champ labs
Thanks for sharing!
@@daewooparts I am glad you brought up the information about the AC-Delco oil filters. My wife drives a 2012 Buick Enclave. I have used NAPA Gold oil filters (basically a Wix), Wix oil filters, and the last oil change I used a top of the line Purolator oil filter from another auto parts store to save me a 40 minute drive to the only NAPA in my area. I have not used an AC-Delco filter yet, but if I can find the one in the film, I will use that as well.
In case you’re wondering, yeah I changed the oil too!😜
@@kenj.8897 I have a 2011 Yukon 5.3. With the blue ac PF48 my oil pressure was around 45 psi at idle and after they went to PF48E [ecore] and it was around 32 at idle. Changed to UPF48R idle around 45 again.
I must be old. I remember wix being stuffed with grannys old woolyz! Lol sure kept old truck engine oil clean for 3,000 milez!
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Nice video Whip! I might have stumbled across something going on with FRAM's extra guard oil filters this time vs the time I told you about the FRAM Ultra Synthetic filters. I can send you photos if you'd like to check it out for yourself and maybe you could make a video out of it. :D
Sure, sounds good Ryan. Do you have my email? if not here it is Poker4me007@gmail.com
Thanks!
Most important thing is to change them every 5k miles (or less). Both appear to be good but I've been using WIX for decades without a failure and I won't change now.
Kind of a waste of money. I use full-synthetic oil (cheap Walmart stuff), change it and the filter every 10k miles. I use either Wix or OEM filters, whichever is cheaper at the time. My Prius is at half a million miles and my Taurus is approaching 300k miles.
@@nodak81 I think it depends on the engine and how you drive it. Short trips are worse on the oil because the engine barely gets warmed up and some engines have a poor PCV system which sludges up the oil quickly. Doesn't really matter what kind of oil. I have two similar GM V8s but one has AFM and the other doesn't. The AFM engine has dirtied the oil BLACK since day one. I de-activated that feature and it does better, but at the cost of 1 point something mpg. Worth it.
I miss the old Wix (NAPA) bypass valves that were at the end of the filter where that spacer was. It was always a selling point for years that it worked better than anyone else's.
I like them also.
Thanks for sharing!
@@WhipCityWrencher Some Ford aftermarket filters still have them but they are going to the bottom kind. Much cheaper to make.
I dont know which full flow filter is best.The WIX has been on my Pontiac Torrent for 60,000miles and 4 years. The Australian Jackmaster Classic will keep it clean. Started with a Frantz oil cleaner in 1963. These newer cars dont have many abrasives large enough to be removes with the full flow filter. I normally recommend changing the full flow filter every 2 years. I change the Jackmaster Classic every 6,000 miles for my driving conditions. I have Motor Guards over 50 years old. And a few Gulf Coasts. I have a lot of engines. I dont run on dirty oil in anything with an oil pump. I know its tradition to allow the oil to get dirty and drain it. I learned at a young age to never allow oil to get dirty.
Just so all you know I opened a fram ultra cartridge oil filter today and the filter media was white, had a black metal screen backing, and looked exactly like a Royal purple or napa platinum. This was found at Walmart and Wal-Mart doesn't sell royal purple or Napa platinum. It came out of a Fram ultra oil filter box. I wonder if they upgraded it looks really nice.
Thanks for sharing!
I have a Fram Ultra Cartridge oil filter video showing next month June 24th, and it's going against an Amsoil oil filter.
Filter manufacturers do it all the time. Buy from each other all the time. Napa always has factory stickered parts from OEM. I’ve seen it on fuel pump assemblies, filters, electrical components. Just slap it in a Napa box.
Thanks Pete! I would choose the Wix. I have not seen an AC Delco yet that has impressed me.
You're Welcome!
Used to haul bulk chemicals for a living and delivered to a paper company in upstate NY. There was big rolls of paper left outside of the plant in the weather. I asked the receiver what was up with that. He told me that the rolls of paper did not meet the strict requirements of Fram and autolite. The chemicals I delivered was to treat the paper in the filters, so naturally I asked where the the other paper went. YOU guessed it. I don't know where they are getting their paper from now but I have used Fram in all I own since with no problems. It doesn't seem no review looks at the makeup of the paper or the chemicals used to make it .I will still use what works for me.
I don't know ww
Thanks for Sharing!👍
The amount of filter media is the most important on disposable filters.
I think they are both good quality. I would lean on the AC filter side because that's what GM uses in new cars.
I am a GM fan and I use, and insist on AC when I can find them, which has gotten much harder lately. Wix is my new alternate, and I am dumping FRAM for my v8 engines. This filter stuff has gotten interesting lately, for an amateur engine builder like myself.
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the feedback👍
@@WhipCityWrencher I took filters for granted...now I am asking OMG what have I done? I'll be watching, thanks.
Have you checked out the Purolator Boss filters? I have a 2012 Malibu that just takes the filter element. The Boss filter holds up extremely well and it's made in the USA. They are expensive though but I guess you get what you pay for. Also I realize the price of everything has gone up but this filter went up about $5.00 from 6 months ago.
Thanks for sharing!
I take back everything I just said about the Purolator Boss filter. I just got a new one and now instead of being made in the USA it's made in South Korea. Also there was a metal strip holding the end of the pleats together that's gone.
Thanks for letting us know.
I hope you are wrong as to where it is made now.
@@WhipCityWrencher It's stamped right on the top of the filter, South Korea. Before it was as plain as day, made in USA.
@@iroc8750 Well that sucks, I wonder if they're all going to be made there? I just bought some about a month ago and they say made in the USA on the sticker.
Could be old stock though I can't decipher the date code.
After doing all the comparison videos. Whats the best filter in your opinion? Regardless of the filter price If you had a $80k racing engine which filter will you personally use ?
Thanks for the awesome videos 🙏
Thanks,
As of right now, my two favorite oil filters are the Purolator Boss and the Fram Ultra. I like a few others as well but I guess these would have to be my two favorites.
What's the cross reference for the upf63r ?
The ACDelco filters I've used have always felt extremely light, like there's nothing inside it. I kind of figure filters are like electronics, they heavier they are the higher the quality.
The ones with the felt end caps will be lighter for sure.
The AC Delco Ultra Guard Gold oil filter is much heavier than the blue can and the Wix
At 12:39 in the lower right hand corner the Wix filter media already caught a pube. Good stuff.
😂I didn't notice that. LOL
The Cadillac Escalade Calls for AC Delco PF63E which has 22psi on the by pass valve, this is what you need to check out on the Wix. Also thats why the AC delco has a stronger can.
Hi John
The Wix also has a bypass setting of 22psi. www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/PartDetails.aspx?Part=2167927
Wix is a great filter, it seems to me fewer stores are stocking Wix filters though.
Oreillys is probably the only place I can get them where I live.
Thanks for your feedback!
@@WhipCityWrencher Same here -- O'Reilly often have the filters I need in Microgard, but not Wix. Another great review Whip. 👏
@@chriscosby2459 Thank You!
@@WhipCityWrencher wasn't wix bought out by NAPA auto parts ? Now they are called NAPA GOLD filters. That's what NAPA told me
@@raymonddelisle6601 Wix makes the Napa brand oil filters but they are now owned by Mann & Hummel.
Hi Whip.Seems both of these filters went the full 12 rounds without a knockout.I would be happy with both but would buy the cheaper.
There is another youtuber who has a chanel called ( fortnine).He posted a very interesting video a few days ago where he does a pressurised test on paper cellulose vs synthetic vs steel media.They are motorcycle oil filters but should be similar to car filters.Very interesting results.I would love to get your educated opinion on his results.
Cheers from Aust.
Cool video, I like the machine they have, I wish I knew how to make one.
I can't say I agree with his results, A micron rating of each filter he used may be revealing.
Hey Whip, have you noticed that Wix filters seem to have lots of metallic debris from threading the end cap center threads? Might just be the ones I’m getting but mine come from rock auto too. If you take a paper towel and press it into the threads and twist it and then look at the paper towel I always get grey particles and sometimes small slivers if you look close! I’m switching to AC Delco for my filters now. Interested to hear your thoughts. Keep up the great videos!
Thank You!
I haven't noticed any particles on the Wix filter threads but I haven't been looking either.
Thanks for the heads up!👍 I'll try and pay more attention to the threads on all of them.
My last oil change I notice a piece of thread material on the wix filter also. Kinda disturbing. There seems to be a quality issue on the wix filters made overseas.
I wouldn't buy bicycle chain from RockAuto you're asking for it you are asking for trouble. Certain parts might be okay but not that oil filter my friends better stop screwing around RockAuto and their oil filters especially just my opinion you know how opinions are LOL is it worth saving $2 a filter get another hundred thousand miles less from your engine
Where does everyone get the AC Delco Ultragold filters from ? They are a hit and miss on Amazon. I just seem to find them randomly on the internet.
Try Rockauto.
Good Video ,,hey can I use one of these with full synthetic and if I do should I change it around 3-5 K
Thanks
Thanks!
Yes you can👍
By the time you factor in the cost of shipping with these filters on rockauto you can still buy them cheaper at O'Reilly
True, You need to buy a bunch of them to offset the shipping cost.
Wix!
WOW very interesting super kool ,1st class great info.,, AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.
Thank You John!
Glad you enjoyed it.
Hi friend
What about the can thickness. GM has bulletin for "17" and newer 3.6 because of higher pressure. That's why the can is beefier. Supposably a higher pressure bypass valve. Why isn't it explained ??
I measured the can thickness, nothing outrageous there.
I like the AC Delco Gold filter better.
Thanks for your feedback!
I agree with you . Ac Delco has a thicker filter media means you need less filter . Wix is thinner that's why it has more media. Ac Delco has a thicker gasket ,thicker canister, thicker base, bigger metal core . I think the Delco Gold is better quality, heavy duty, and race built compared to the Wix. Well worth the couple of dollars more. Why not see which one is stronger under high pressure . The Delco would win hands down.
WIX FOR THE WIN.
I choose the acdelco, made in USA.
Thanks for your feedback!
US product but made in CHINA
How do the K&N filters compare?
Here are a couple K&N filter videos, and I have some more (try a google search) plus a couple HP versions coming up. Thanks! ruclips.net/video/Ckrwlz6bnzc/видео.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher ruclips.net/video/ikcVXD0k2NQ/видео.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
Unless I missed it the media wasn't viewed under a microscope. Might have been more telling.
Sorry,
This video was made prior to my getting a microscope.
mmm comes down to price
You paid wholesale for Wix..they run $7.99 ea.at O'Reilly Auto Parts
O'Reilly's oil filters are expensive, best to buy a bunch at RockAuto to offset the shipping.
I'm not sure what is gained by these comparisons. For instance, some think the extra thick base plate is somehow a sign of higher quality. If you're buying your filter by weight, it's significant. Otherwise, it's just an indication that the folks making the A/C Delco filter are wasting money and passing along the excessive cost in the form of a higher retail price. There is no advantage to being overweight. If people want to make an informed decision on real filter quality, they need to find actual filtration testing results. Things like the number and size of particles allowed to pass through the element is the most important item, followed by restriction and bypass performance. A filters reason for being is all about the filtration, not what the parts look like or how much they weigh.
If I can find the micron ratings I do state the numbers in the video and also what the filter media is made of. These videos are to show you what's in your oil filter, you can decide if the parts are good or not. Sure I give my opinion sometimes, everyone has one. After all, showing these videos might keep manufacturers on their toes. Manufacturers do watch these videos. Check out Fram's website and see what it says. (They state it doesn't make for a good video) but I bet it makes them think twice if they want to cheapen their oil filters. Chances are the oil filter that you use or want to use will eventually show up in one of these videos. Have a good day! www.fram.com/technical-information/
Performance goes further than simply filtering. My assumption is that they all filter fine in a lab for a few minutes at low pressures at 20 deg C. Testing performance would be great but also very expensive. A few questions I have when filter shopping: Is the wall thick enough that it doesn't collapse on removal? Will anti drain-back leak over time or at cold or hot temperatures? Will the media get bypassed when I start the car a -30 or so (lousy flow)? Will the seam rip with a cold start? Will the glue hold when cruising up a hill mid-summer in California? Will the gasoline built-up in the oil over many short trips leach the plasticizers out of the materials making them prone to inflexibility, embitterment, cracking? And how would that affect performance after many thermal and pressure cycles? Will the base-plate be rigid enough to allow the anti drain-back design to function even if grossly over-torqued at a lube shop?
Inspection is second-best but still valuable.
How did you check the AC Delco and WIX filtration micron rating?
I go by what they post, on various websites.
@@WhipCityWrencher can you let me know the links of the sources?
@@forestcrown516 Wix www.wixfilters.com/
Acdelco www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=10943140&cc=3308737&pt=5340&jsn=629
Never been a fan of AC Delco filters.
If you own a GM product, use what is recommended….simple as that. AC Delco is a very good filter.
Amsoil is the best oil … they pair it with wix Xp. Filters
WIX
Wix
I used to go with the factory recommended which is the AC Delco so I got the gold from RockAuto last time well I just went on three days ago and they didn't have the AC Delco hold so I ordered the wicks which I see your videos posted 3 months ago but it's no longer $4 I paid almost $8 it was $7.89 from RockAuto I have a 2012 Chevy Impala with a 3.6 right off the bat I started comparing them I feel that just by touch the AC Delco gold was a better filter but then I decided to do some research and I found your video but I'm pretty amazed on the price difference from 3 months ago to 3 days ago I'm really not 100% sure which one I pick but I did blow the first engine using a mobile one and mobile one oil which I no longer use or recommend I could use some help here especially after seeing your video and the price that you paid that's a big increase I wonder why??? But you can go on their site at RockAuto and see what I'm talking about and I wonder why they don't carry the AC Delco gold anymore and my main thing is they see Delco is made in the USA the wix is not made in North Carolina it's just packaged there it's made in Mexico so are you truly getting better quality from Mexico???? Maybe you or somebody can answer these questions I'm almost afraid to put the wicks on I think I might even send it back after watching your video I feel like I got ripped off compared to three months ago what you paid from RockAuto and compared what I paid three days ago from RockAuto????!!!!!! I do appreciate any reply... Much love to all 🕊️❤️🕊️
Stick with the Delco Gold you will be fine .
You didn’t put the media under the microscope !
This is an older video and I didn't have a microscope back then. Sorry.
L only use Wix
Oh, look. Another coil spring.
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Sloppy glue, less filter media, cheap plastic bypass in the leaf spring, no silicone anti-drainback and more expensive for a supposed premium ACDelco? No thanks.
Thanks for your feedback!
AC Delco got bought out by Fram, ever since they got bought out by Fram their quality has gone down.
DELCO----MADE IN CHINA