TAILWATERS & the people that fish them

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2025

Комментарии • 128

  • @TheElynoir
    @TheElynoir 2 месяца назад +47

    Just finished dropping a brown trout in the tail waters. Good timing Ben.

    • @terrybois5945
      @terrybois5945 2 месяца назад

      How far did you drop it?

    • @jonathanlagasse9531
      @jonathanlagasse9531 2 месяца назад +2

      @@terrybois5945 i would estimate the standard distance a finless brown falls, unless its in a porta john in which case it could be a considerably longer distance.

    • @CatchLastCast
      @CatchLastCast 2 месяца назад +1

      So long pork chop!

    • @edjobkarjr.7650
      @edjobkarjr.7650 2 месяца назад +1

      What did you name your brownie?

    • @TheElynoir
      @TheElynoir 2 месяца назад +2

      @ Edwin the Great.

  • @grantfarrell3338
    @grantfarrell3338 2 месяца назад +17

    The call out on the pooping 😮

  • @forrestscott5314
    @forrestscott5314 2 месяца назад +4

    😂, worth the wait. That poop was technical, due to all the pizza I'd been keying in on...

  • @katemoseley4200
    @katemoseley4200 2 месяца назад +7

    Nitrogen and phosphorus are the big two limiting macronutrients in streams. Recent research has suggested though that at least phosphorus settles out in many large upstream reservoirs leaving the tailwater starved of P. If you've heard about the spread of didymo algae or "rock snot" in Western tailwaters this is a big reason why and of course the many wading boots to spread it.

    • @GeorgeSemel
      @GeorgeSemel 2 месяца назад

      Gee's and I thought it was craft Beer!

  • @Rook9696
    @Rook9696 2 месяца назад +2

    I actually did in fact finish pooping as you were wrapping this up. Good laugh.

  • @jaredtandle2596
    @jaredtandle2596 2 месяца назад +7

    Dont forget to high hole in tail waters!

  • @jl4091
    @jl4091 2 месяца назад +8

    Pretty soon,tail waters will be my only choice.I hate the winter time,but it's still better than watching TV.

    • @shanepierce401
      @shanepierce401 2 месяца назад +2

      Yep better than not fishing. You can find tail water spots with little crowds and if fish if you try.

  • @robgentry3517
    @robgentry3517 2 месяца назад +1

    Awesome video!! A lot good info while making it fun!!!

  • @robertmcmanus5875
    @robertmcmanus5875 2 месяца назад +3

    Love catching tailwater fish on patterns that "shouldn't work" as per local anglers and fly shops

  • @ajheath5123
    @ajheath5123 2 месяца назад +4

    Planting a 4 lb brown trout in a tailwater as I watched this, got to the poop joke and laughed so hard I planted a few fingerlings..

  • @MattyA_18
    @MattyA_18 2 месяца назад +1

    As a guy whose home waters are all tail waters, nailed it!

  • @graemethompson5520
    @graemethompson5520 2 месяца назад +1

    nice hat. I'm sure that was a deliberate choice for this topic. those guys are awesome!

  • @emorycarterotf
    @emorycarterotf 2 месяца назад +2

    0:50 not in east tn though😢

  • @self-taught_angler
    @self-taught_angler 2 месяца назад +1

    There are two reasons tailwaters are technical. 1) The low temperature prevents aquatic insects getting bigger. So, you have to use smaller flies. 2) The hydropeaking disturbs (and many times kills) the aquatic insects and hatches. So, quickly reproducing insects like midges and opportunistic meals like worms gets more of the spotlight. 2 and a half) If the dam release is regulated and mild, the coldness of the water sets up a very regular life cycle for the aquatic insects (though they still cannot get big.) In other words, hatches are more in a regular periodic schedule. So, the trout is more attuned to its stages.

  • @ChristopherNichols
    @ChristopherNichols 2 месяца назад +1

    Is it just me or does anyone else like to see the clouds jump in the sky behind Ben with every cut that he adds to the video? Is that what a tail water fisherman would do?

  • @chili1593
    @chili1593 2 месяца назад +2

    Hilarious and informative both thanks

  • @knutevids
    @knutevids 11 дней назад

    I recall reading early on that the reason for calling it a "tailwater" is because, from above, the reservoir looks like a mouse or other critter and the stream below the dam looks like its tail. Useless information, but whatever, there you have it.

  • @JohnOravetz
    @JohnOravetz 2 месяца назад +1

    I like tailwaters because the dam section attracts the crowds and leaves more room further down the river

  • @rogerbird7015
    @rogerbird7015 2 месяца назад +2

    This was a good video. LOVED the graphics! And, who names fish? Allegedly, there is a big brown trout in the bottom of the Texas Hole on the San Juan named Kracken. We fished it about 6 or 7 years ago, but the rumor is that he is still there. Haunting tailwater fly fishers.

  • @Bac_choi
    @Bac_choi 2 месяца назад +4

    well you’re up early!!

  • @emorycarterotf
    @emorycarterotf 2 месяца назад +3

    5:52 bro I need privacy

  • @michaeldavid6284
    @michaeldavid6284 2 месяца назад +5

    Love how he defines tailwater as a "river under a dam"...and then at 3:46 shows anglers at a spillway fishing as water pours over the dam.

  • @Bonneville_Brute
    @Bonneville_Brute 2 месяца назад +1

    There are several dams, literally up in the Uintas, which is the highest mountain range in Utah, so yeah basically everything here is a tailwater. but I know what you mean.

  • @highthai7
    @highthai7 2 месяца назад +1

    Great. Now I need a video on Techy Risers.

  • @randallbarron3226
    @randallbarron3226 2 месяца назад +1

    Dig the picture from bennett springs in missouri. You should do a video roasting pay to play trout parks.

    • @flyguy2021
      @flyguy2021 2 месяца назад

      @@randallbarron3226 it’s all pay to play in the cradle of fly fishing in England…

  • @gonefishing321
    @gonefishing321 2 месяца назад +1

    The whole thing with tailwaters being technical is so funny to me. The reason they are called technical is because they are all in places like calarado where everyone fishes but none of them know how to 😂 no doubt there is some stellar fishing in them though.

  • @russellowen4543
    @russellowen4543 Месяц назад

    Not always technical fishing or small flies. I fish the Missouri from below Holter Dam to Ft.Benton and below Holter 12-14lb tippet and large streamers work wonders....

  • @charlieboutin3341
    @charlieboutin3341 2 месяца назад +1

    No trout in tail waters around here, but Huge (like you) Stripers come up when generating. Fish on! (I hunted nutrients when I was younger)😂

  • @mikecress5168
    @mikecress5168 2 месяца назад +1

    Dang...nailed me in that one 😃

  • @johnberry9812
    @johnberry9812 2 месяца назад +14

    How did you know?

  • @ryanthecox1
    @ryanthecox1 2 месяца назад +1

    I must say that my wading staff has saved my life a few times and my vest is so righteous that if my wife ever leaves me that’s all I’ll have to wear to get caught. 🎣

  • @davidwing9452
    @davidwing9452 2 месяца назад

    I have known the owner of Spinnerfall Guides Scott Barrus for over 20 years. Best guides on the Green. I like your hat!

  • @bssaassin1900
    @bssaassin1900 2 месяца назад +2

    Water managers use brawndo to ensure the fish and all aquatic life get their electrolytes that they crave for

  • @phreddymacc
    @phreddymacc 2 месяца назад +1

    I literally was just finishing a poop when he said I’m probably done pooping.

  • @joeg5414
    @joeg5414 2 месяца назад +3

    I live 45 min from the San Juan tailwater and avoid it like the plague

    • @tommyrq180
      @tommyrq180 2 месяца назад

      Laziest trout I’ve ever caught. So lazy I just couldn’t take it anymore. Don’t even care how big when they come in like they’re near-dead. 😢

  • @mattstout856
    @mattstout856 2 месяца назад +1

    Looking at you Upstate NewYork!

  • @brianchasecook20
    @brianchasecook20 2 месяца назад +1

    Lmao 😂. But there is one tailwater in Idaho that is a notable exception

  • @BryconerFreelanceGuide
    @BryconerFreelanceGuide 2 месяца назад +1

    Nice one bro, now you go tenkaraaaaa jajajaja just kidding, don't you dare go tenkara

  • @MO-vr1jg
    @MO-vr1jg 2 месяца назад +1

    Well said..

  • @roycekelley2801
    @roycekelley2801 2 месяца назад +2

    You’re right, I am done poopin

  • @FlyGuy1810-j3t
    @FlyGuy1810-j3t 2 месяца назад +2

    Tailwater fishermen are universally either old and stuck up or young and nerdy. And that includes everyone watching this who fishes them

    • @Flyfish9111
      @Flyfish9111 2 месяца назад +2

      Your right. And we do count the wraps on our size 24 midges.

    • @davidwing9452
      @davidwing9452 2 месяца назад

      It’s all we have in Utah. Better than watching RUclips videos.

    • @FlyGuy1810-j3t
      @FlyGuy1810-j3t 2 месяца назад

      ​@@davidwing9452 Logan River? (I think it's a freestone, but correct me if I'm wrong)

    • @davidwing9452
      @davidwing9452 2 месяца назад +1

      Not sure about the headwaters, but I know their are 3 dams on the Logan.

    • @FlyGuy1810-j3t
      @FlyGuy1810-j3t 2 месяца назад

      Thanks! Never actually been there, so wasn't sure lol

  • @caleshtcincredibles
    @caleshtcincredibles 2 месяца назад +1

    caught me on the throne 😅😅

  • @puristonthefly3308
    @puristonthefly3308 2 месяца назад +1

    Tailwater trout weenies doing the 20" fish on a #20 fly is one of my favorite things to make fun of people for.

    • @jayfxdx
      @jayfxdx 2 месяца назад

      And what are you making fun of?

    • @puristonthefly3308
      @puristonthefly3308 2 месяца назад

      @@jayfxdx no one cares and by no means is it an accomplishment.

    • @gemstatefisherman3409
      @gemstatefisherman3409 2 месяца назад +1

      You ain’t cool tell you’ve landed a 32” on a #32

  • @derekrush3116
    @derekrush3116 2 месяца назад +1

    I almost fished tail waters today, but decided to get skunked instead.

  • @murky912
    @murky912 2 месяца назад +1

    "Done pooping"....you get me

  • @shanepierce401
    @shanepierce401 2 месяца назад +1

    See you at Deckers

  • @paulkasputis5978
    @paulkasputis5978 2 месяца назад +3

    I fish tail waters with one fly.

  • @danebono7667
    @danebono7667 2 месяца назад +1

    Tailwaters in the winter. A midge hater's worst nightmare.

  • @DougLyons-d8t
    @DougLyons-d8t 2 месяца назад

    Two tail waters near me. Both get hammered. The fish are beat up. Simply put, you won’t find me fishing them. There are some nice limestone influenced streams nearby with fewer fish, fewer anglers, and a broader array of hatches.
    While Sage Winston and Loomis Orvis are eurodredging these poor fish with every other overpaid wealth manager within a 200 mile radius, I’m blissfully fishing miles of river without anyone bothering me.
    I love tailwaters : )

  • @wydryfly
    @wydryfly 2 месяца назад

    where can I get a wading staff like the one in your video? Fn Hilarious !!!!

  • @wawywawo
    @wawywawo 2 месяца назад

    Love me some 1/2 size tippet 😂

  • @mk9326
    @mk9326 2 месяца назад +1

    5:52 why are you personally attacking me?

  • @electrontube
    @electrontube 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm going to start carrying a bug seine, so I can figure out what nutrients are.

  • @tprfk
    @tprfk 2 месяца назад +1

    Its 22 years actually

  • @tinoyb9294
    @tinoyb9294 2 месяца назад +1

    In Colorado.

  • @davidwing9452
    @davidwing9452 2 месяца назад

    I live in Utah. I can’t think of a stream within 3 hours of me that is not a tailwater. It’s about the only thing we have.

  • @claytonballerine2280
    @claytonballerine2280 2 месяца назад

    I love fishing tailwaters with eggs and leeches and being looked at like I'm crazy

  • @Fuzzball13
    @Fuzzball13 2 месяца назад +6

    I live on a a tail water in Wyoming. Most of the people that fish here are from Colorado. Why don’t you have enough in Colorado

    • @Trutta_Fanatic
      @Trutta_Fanatic 2 месяца назад

      That's what defines wyoming tailwaters haha

  • @69adrummer
    @69adrummer 2 месяца назад +2

    So, how far downstream does a tail-water go before it becomes a "freestone" again, or is it classified as such from there on out?!
    Thinking in terms of stream class say, two class 1's join to form a class 2...but a class 1 joining a class 2 doesn't make it a class 3.
    If a tail-water joins a freestone, what is the dominate stream type then, downstream!?

    • @spencerthomason6558
      @spencerthomason6558 2 месяца назад

      I know nothing, but I would say far enough from the dam that a big rainstorm, or snowmelt can significantly impact the flow, and that water temperature fluctuates daily and seasonally with the ambient temperature.

    • @jreilly2413
      @jreilly2413 2 месяца назад

      As soon as it leaves the state park

  • @fecalp00
    @fecalp00 2 месяца назад +1

    The picture of the Nutria when you say nutrient 😂😂😂.

    • @fecalp00
      @fecalp00 2 месяца назад

      Just got done pooping too. Ben's got a type

  • @gideon7359
    @gideon7359 2 месяца назад

    I’ve always thought that anglers who fish tailwaters but rail against dams were a bit hypocritical.

  • @DreadyEDDY710
    @DreadyEDDY710 2 месяца назад

    Not done pooping yet, onto the next one

  • @jeffodabear
    @jeffodabear 2 месяца назад +1

    How'd you know I was literally poopin?

  • @collinvall5094
    @collinvall5094 2 месяца назад

    Just got back from the dam

  • @MrSofthackle
    @MrSofthackle 2 месяца назад +7

    Nutrients are primarily phosphate, nitrate, and potassium.

    • @fishfoolishness4222
      @fishfoolishness4222 2 месяца назад

      Its what the bugs that the fish eat feed on. Lots of nutrients = lots of bugs = lots of fish.

    • @anisenkrill6179
      @anisenkrill6179 2 месяца назад

      But not in that order. It's NPK, not PNK.

    • @flyguy2021
      @flyguy2021 2 месяца назад

      @@fishfoolishness4222bugs don’t actually eat nutrients…nutrients support plants at the base of the food chain

    • @VailDog540
      @VailDog540 2 месяца назад

      @@anisenkrill6179 What brand of vest would you recommend?

    • @fishfoolishness4222
      @fishfoolishness4222 2 месяца назад +1

      @ I stand corrected

  • @dankochanek8056
    @dankochanek8056 2 месяца назад

    Nutrients, just like in that beer you are holding.

  • @Bouncing22
    @Bouncing22 2 месяца назад

    I feel like tailwater trout fight harder!

  • @BatchMcGehee
    @BatchMcGehee 2 месяца назад +1

    You'r probably done pooping by now 🤣

  • @MichaelKuczynski-u7o
    @MichaelKuczynski-u7o 2 месяца назад +1

    Kinda true

  • @OscarOverlanding
    @OscarOverlanding 2 месяца назад +1

    Hahahahaha!!! Thank you.

  • @slipperysnake9603
    @slipperysnake9603 2 месяца назад +1

    Hate to break it to you but I’m pooping in freestones

  • @RoryLynott
    @RoryLynott Месяц назад

    Best tailwater method. Zebra midge, 6 feet of tippet tied on to your wading belt and shuffle ever so slowly quartering upstream. No rod or reel needed, the fish will be on in no time. Talk about action!

  • @seribas
    @seribas 2 месяца назад

    Probably done pooping lmao. Dude I was to lol

  • @jacobdavis3737
    @jacobdavis3737 2 месяца назад +1

    This is why I only fish freestone streams like below flaming gorge. Huge stoneflies and no pressured fish. Tailwaters suck.

  • @peterp1523
    @peterp1523 2 месяца назад +1

    i get it... you name fish

  • @Aartnak
    @Aartnak 2 месяца назад

    I was pooping!!! You know your audience lol

  • @racing2khaos
    @racing2khaos 2 месяца назад +1

    I just fished a tailwater YTD. I try to get away with huge flies instead of them annoying sz 22-24. Lol. I feel heroic when I get them to ear sz 14 Frenchie or some.

  • @sgrahammd
    @sgrahammd 2 месяца назад +1

    What? No sponsors today?

  • @flytyryguy
    @flytyryguy 2 месяца назад

    Tailwater discharge isn't always same temp, obviously warmer water in summer, I assume u were just being to vague when u said they stay at same temp

  • @reedkraemer3812
    @reedkraemer3812 Месяц назад

    Nitrogen and phosphorus! NPK!

  • @Hancock-r2v
    @Hancock-r2v 2 месяца назад

    I fish it all I fish all forms of fishing I'm not an idiot that just says I'm a fly fisherman I'm proudly a fisherman

  • @djuengst2000
    @djuengst2000 2 месяца назад +1

    lol

  • @rodc4334
    @rodc4334 2 месяца назад

    🤣 Fun!

  • @shanepierce401
    @shanepierce401 2 месяца назад +2

    This video made me need to poop

  • @rustyknott-W.D
    @rustyknott-W.D 2 месяца назад

    I find tailwaters to be B.S. compared to free streams. They're too tempermental for my taste. That being said, we have a famous one not too far away and it's nice to lay off the skis a couple of times in winter and go fishing. Heck, sometimes I even do ok!

  • @kristiharris9658
    @kristiharris9658 2 месяца назад

    Tailwaters are a lot easier for us mobility lacking fisherman

  • @Texasflycaster
    @Texasflycaster 2 месяца назад +1

    Funny these Texans call any water below a dam a, "tailwater." What do you call water below a dam that is not a tailwater? TAKE A SIP please!

  • @barbless_hook78
    @barbless_hook78 2 месяца назад +1

    🤣👍🏼

  • @Train411
    @Train411 2 месяца назад +1

    A1

  • @patricksavageiii
    @patricksavageiii 2 месяца назад

    Bawhahaha... South Holston

  • @davidsimcox7984
    @davidsimcox7984 2 месяца назад

    Scummy ponds and the people who fish them.

  • @flytyryguy
    @flytyryguy 2 месяца назад

    Lots of broad generalizations from this guy

  • @spotburningsucks4043
    @spotburningsucks4043 2 месяца назад +1

    Hate to break it to you big guy but there isn’t a trout on the planet that’s “smart”. They’re fish.