@@terrybois5945 i would estimate the standard distance a finless brown falls, unless its in a porta john in which case it could be a considerably longer distance.
Nitrogen and phosphorus are the big two limiting macronutrients in streams. Recent research has suggested though that at least phosphorus settles out in many large upstream reservoirs leaving the tailwater starved of P. If you've heard about the spread of didymo algae or "rock snot" in Western tailwaters this is a big reason why and of course the many wading boots to spread it.
Not always technical fishing or small flies. I fish the Missouri from below Holter Dam to Ft.Benton and below Holter 12-14lb tippet and large streamers work wonders....
I just fished a tailwater YTD. I try to get away with huge flies instead of them annoying sz 22-24. Lol. I feel heroic when I get them to ear sz 14 Frenchie or some.
There are two reasons tailwaters are technical. 1) The low temperature prevents aquatic insects getting bigger. So, you have to use smaller flies. 2) The hydropeaking disturbs (and many times kills) the aquatic insects and hatches. So, quickly reproducing insects like midges and opportunistic meals like worms gets more of the spotlight. 2 and a half) If the dam release is regulated and mild, the coldness of the water sets up a very regular life cycle for the aquatic insects (though they still cannot get big.) In other words, hatches are more in a regular periodic schedule. So, the trout is more attuned to its stages.
There are several dams, literally up in the Uintas, which is the highest mountain range in Utah, so yeah basically everything here is a tailwater. but I know what you mean.
Is it just me or does anyone else like to see the clouds jump in the sky behind Ben with every cut that he adds to the video? Is that what a tail water fisherman would do?
The whole thing with tailwaters being technical is so funny to me. The reason they are called technical is because they are all in places like calarado where everyone fishes but none of them know how to 😂 no doubt there is some stellar fishing in them though.
This was a good video. LOVED the graphics! And, who names fish? Allegedly, there is a big brown trout in the bottom of the Texas Hole on the San Juan named Kracken. We fished it about 6 or 7 years ago, but the rumor is that he is still there. Haunting tailwater fly fishers.
I must say that my wading staff has saved my life a few times and my vest is so righteous that if my wife ever leaves me that’s all I’ll have to wear to get caught. 🎣
So, how far downstream does a tail-water go before it becomes a "freestone" again, or is it classified as such from there on out?! Thinking in terms of stream class say, two class 1's join to form a class 2...but a class 1 joining a class 2 doesn't make it a class 3. If a tail-water joins a freestone, what is the dominate stream type then, downstream!?
I know nothing, but I would say far enough from the dam that a big rainstorm, or snowmelt can significantly impact the flow, and that water temperature fluctuates daily and seasonally with the ambient temperature.
Two tail waters near me. Both get hammered. The fish are beat up. Simply put, you won’t find me fishing them. There are some nice limestone influenced streams nearby with fewer fish, fewer anglers, and a broader array of hatches. While Sage Winston and Loomis Orvis are eurodredging these poor fish with every other overpaid wealth manager within a 200 mile radius, I’m blissfully fishing miles of river without anyone bothering me. I love tailwaters : )
Best tailwater method. Zebra midge, 6 feet of tippet tied on to your wading belt and shuffle ever so slowly quartering upstream. No rod or reel needed, the fish will be on in no time. Talk about action!
I find tailwaters to be B.S. compared to free streams. They're too tempermental for my taste. That being said, we have a famous one not too far away and it's nice to lay off the skis a couple of times in winter and go fishing. Heck, sometimes I even do ok!
Just finished dropping a brown trout in the tail waters. Good timing Ben.
How far did you drop it?
@@terrybois5945 i would estimate the standard distance a finless brown falls, unless its in a porta john in which case it could be a considerably longer distance.
So long pork chop!
What did you name your brownie?
@ Edwin the Great.
The call out on the pooping 😮
Caught me in 4k
Love how he defines tailwater as a "river under a dam"...and then at 3:46 shows anglers at a spillway fishing as water pours over the dam.
Nitrogen and phosphorus are the big two limiting macronutrients in streams. Recent research has suggested though that at least phosphorus settles out in many large upstream reservoirs leaving the tailwater starved of P. If you've heard about the spread of didymo algae or "rock snot" in Western tailwaters this is a big reason why and of course the many wading boots to spread it.
Gee's and I thought it was craft Beer!
😂, worth the wait. That poop was technical, due to all the pizza I'd been keying in on...
Pretty soon,tail waters will be my only choice.I hate the winter time,but it's still better than watching TV.
Yep better than not fishing. You can find tail water spots with little crowds and if fish if you try.
How did you know?
Got me too
Same.
Love catching tailwater fish on patterns that "shouldn't work" as per local anglers and fly shops
Dont forget to high hole in tail waters!
I actually did in fact finish pooping as you were wrapping this up. Good laugh.
I like tailwaters because the dam section attracts the crowds and leaves more room further down the river
Not always technical fishing or small flies. I fish the Missouri from below Holter Dam to Ft.Benton and below Holter 12-14lb tippet and large streamers work wonders....
I just fished a tailwater YTD. I try to get away with huge flies instead of them annoying sz 22-24. Lol. I feel heroic when I get them to ear sz 14 Frenchie or some.
There are two reasons tailwaters are technical. 1) The low temperature prevents aquatic insects getting bigger. So, you have to use smaller flies. 2) The hydropeaking disturbs (and many times kills) the aquatic insects and hatches. So, quickly reproducing insects like midges and opportunistic meals like worms gets more of the spotlight. 2 and a half) If the dam release is regulated and mild, the coldness of the water sets up a very regular life cycle for the aquatic insects (though they still cannot get big.) In other words, hatches are more in a regular periodic schedule. So, the trout is more attuned to its stages.
There are several dams, literally up in the Uintas, which is the highest mountain range in Utah, so yeah basically everything here is a tailwater. but I know what you mean.
As a guy whose home waters are all tail waters, nailed it!
0:50 not in east tn though😢
Planting a 4 lb brown trout in a tailwater as I watched this, got to the poop joke and laughed so hard I planted a few fingerlings..
Awesome video!! A lot good info while making it fun!!!
Great. Now I need a video on Techy Risers.
nice hat. I'm sure that was a deliberate choice for this topic. those guys are awesome!
Hilarious and informative both thanks
well you’re up early!!
Is it just me or does anyone else like to see the clouds jump in the sky behind Ben with every cut that he adds to the video? Is that what a tail water fisherman would do?
I live 45 min from the San Juan tailwater and avoid it like the plague
Laziest trout I’ve ever caught. So lazy I just couldn’t take it anymore. Don’t even care how big when they come in like they’re near-dead. 😢
The whole thing with tailwaters being technical is so funny to me. The reason they are called technical is because they are all in places like calarado where everyone fishes but none of them know how to 😂 no doubt there is some stellar fishing in them though.
Dang...nailed me in that one 😃
5:52 bro I need privacy
This was a good video. LOVED the graphics! And, who names fish? Allegedly, there is a big brown trout in the bottom of the Texas Hole on the San Juan named Kracken. We fished it about 6 or 7 years ago, but the rumor is that he is still there. Haunting tailwater fly fishers.
I have known the owner of Spinnerfall Guides Scott Barrus for over 20 years. Best guides on the Green. I like your hat!
Dig the picture from bennett springs in missouri. You should do a video roasting pay to play trout parks.
@@randallbarron3226 it’s all pay to play in the cradle of fly fishing in England…
Looking at you Upstate NewYork!
Water managers use brawndo to ensure the fish and all aquatic life get their electrolytes that they crave for
No trout in tail waters around here, but Huge (like you) Stripers come up when generating. Fish on! (I hunted nutrients when I was younger)😂
caught me on the throne 😅😅
I literally was just finishing a poop when he said I’m probably done pooping.
Lmao 😂. But there is one tailwater in Idaho that is a notable exception
Well said..
You’re right, I am done poopin
I almost fished tail waters today, but decided to get skunked instead.
See you at Deckers
"Done pooping"....you get me
I must say that my wading staff has saved my life a few times and my vest is so righteous that if my wife ever leaves me that’s all I’ll have to wear to get caught. 🎣
Nice one bro, now you go tenkaraaaaa jajajaja just kidding, don't you dare go tenkara
Its 22 years actually
where can I get a wading staff like the one in your video? Fn Hilarious !!!!
Tailwater trout weenies doing the 20" fish on a #20 fly is one of my favorite things to make fun of people for.
And what are you making fun of?
@@jayfxdx no one cares and by no means is it an accomplishment.
You ain’t cool tell you’ve landed a 32” on a #32
I love fishing tailwaters with eggs and leeches and being looked at like I'm crazy
Yeah I abuse tailwater trout
Love me some 1/2 size tippet 😂
So, how far downstream does a tail-water go before it becomes a "freestone" again, or is it classified as such from there on out?!
Thinking in terms of stream class say, two class 1's join to form a class 2...but a class 1 joining a class 2 doesn't make it a class 3.
If a tail-water joins a freestone, what is the dominate stream type then, downstream!?
I know nothing, but I would say far enough from the dam that a big rainstorm, or snowmelt can significantly impact the flow, and that water temperature fluctuates daily and seasonally with the ambient temperature.
As soon as it leaves the state park
Just got back from the dam
Two tail waters near me. Both get hammered. The fish are beat up. Simply put, you won’t find me fishing them. There are some nice limestone influenced streams nearby with fewer fish, fewer anglers, and a broader array of hatches.
While Sage Winston and Loomis Orvis are eurodredging these poor fish with every other overpaid wealth manager within a 200 mile radius, I’m blissfully fishing miles of river without anyone bothering me.
I love tailwaters : )
In Colorado.
I live on a a tail water in Wyoming. Most of the people that fish here are from Colorado. Why don’t you have enough in Colorado
That's what defines wyoming tailwaters haha
5:52 why are you personally attacking me?
I live in Utah. I can’t think of a stream within 3 hours of me that is not a tailwater. It’s about the only thing we have.
You'r probably done pooping by now 🤣
I fish tail waters with one fly.
I'm going to start carrying a bug seine, so I can figure out what nutrients are.
I feel like tailwater trout fight harder!
Nutrients, just like in that beer you are holding.
Hahahahaha!!! Thank you.
i get it... you name fish
Best tailwater method. Zebra midge, 6 feet of tippet tied on to your wading belt and shuffle ever so slowly quartering upstream. No rod or reel needed, the fish will be on in no time. Talk about action!
Kinda true
This is why I only fish freestone streams like below flaming gorge. Huge stoneflies and no pressured fish. Tailwaters suck.
Below the gorge is a tail water,
Not done pooping yet, onto the next one
Tailwater discharge isn't always same temp, obviously warmer water in summer, I assume u were just being to vague when u said they stay at same temp
Nutrients are primarily phosphate, nitrate, and potassium.
Its what the bugs that the fish eat feed on. Lots of nutrients = lots of bugs = lots of fish.
But not in that order. It's NPK, not PNK.
@@fishfoolishness4222bugs don’t actually eat nutrients…nutrients support plants at the base of the food chain
@@anisenkrill6179 What brand of vest would you recommend?
@ I stand corrected
Probably done pooping lmao. Dude I was to lol
Tailwater fishermen are universally either old and stuck up or young and nerdy. And that includes everyone watching this who fishes them
Your right. And we do count the wraps on our size 24 midges.
It’s all we have in Utah. Better than watching RUclips videos.
@@davidwing9452 Logan River? (I think it's a freestone, but correct me if I'm wrong)
Not sure about the headwaters, but I know their are 3 dams on the Logan.
Thanks! Never actually been there, so wasn't sure lol
I fish it all I fish all forms of fishing I'm not an idiot that just says I'm a fly fisherman I'm proudly a fisherman
How'd you know I was literally poopin?
Tailwaters in the winter. A midge hater's worst nightmare.
I was pooping!!! You know your audience lol
Hate to break it to you but I’m pooping in freestones
The picture of the Nutria when you say nutrient 😂😂😂.
Just got done pooping too. Ben's got a type
Nitrogen and phosphorus! NPK!
I’ve always thought that anglers who fish tailwaters but rail against dams were a bit hypocritical.
I find tailwaters to be B.S. compared to free streams. They're too tempermental for my taste. That being said, we have a famous one not too far away and it's nice to lay off the skis a couple of times in winter and go fishing. Heck, sometimes I even do ok!
What? No sponsors today?
Tailwaters are a lot easier for us mobility lacking fisherman
Funny these Texans call any water below a dam a, "tailwater." What do you call water below a dam that is not a tailwater? TAKE A SIP please!
🤣 Fun!
This video made me need to poop
lol
🤣👍🏼
A1
Bawhahaha... South Holston
Scummy ponds and the people who fish them.
Lots of broad generalizations from this guy
Hate to break it to you big guy but there isn’t a trout on the planet that’s “smart”. They’re fish.