I always go -45 to 45 instead of 0 to 90 to avoid that last wobble. Less stress on the machine and much smoother operation. So instead of starting with my bucket in front of the tracks, I'd start with placing my bucket 45 degrees towards the direction which I want my tracks to turn. Try that and see the difference.
Correct. You can also alternate between front and rear turns instead of 2x turns at the same end. If you practice your timing and lever control there are no delays between movements and as you complete 1x turn & put one end down, you can use the already pressurized hydraulic circuit and small momentum you still have to continue the slew motion in the same direction and do the second turn at the other end of the machine. (For 180* turns.) Another 2 considerations that can come in handy are, 1) If you apply just a small amount of downward pressure with the bucket, you can sprag (spin/turn) the tracks a complete 360* with relative ease. (Surface material characteristics permitting, of course.) 2) When tracking/tramming try time your turns where possible on a section of ground that has a slight 'hump' in it, you want to have the weight of the machine sitting mainly on the track rollers with the idler and drive fairly well weightless. *That incorrectly demonstrated jump turn does have some practical uses though. It is a handy/essential skill for tasks like pipelaying and/or trenching. (NOT for beginners, practice with imaginary pipes/trenches first. Ignore this at your own peril.) Understanding that moment where it transitioned from both track frames on the ground to just one is also a very handy skill to develop. It gives you the ability to maintain a good level of control over the machine for situations that requires the operator to 'limp' it, if it has suffered a final drive failure/issue or if you have cracked/snapped a chain link on one track. (Also handy if you can lay the track out straight and position the digger back on it, instead of just jacking the track frame and having to manovoure the track in under the machine. *Also handy when the crest of your bench collapses while your loading and you have to catch yourself I'm the back of the truck, (with one track now sitting in mid air....) prop yourself back up to the required angle/attitude and manovoure the machine back onto the bench again so both tracks are over the ground again. LoL. Happens....)
From Elko, Nv. Working in Tonapah and Goldfield, Nv. Ran loaders and haul trucks. Very minimal experience on an excavator. Started new job this week and really getting comfortable on the controls. However the guy training looks like he's doing a damn ballet with these machines and I want to get more like him with time. He's dozing right now and I'm sitting over looking the valley in Goldfield on drill pads we're making and learning how to do this and was able to try with much ease thanks to this video! Thanks guys!
if you have questions about the machines then you should ask the experienced guys you work with. don't try something new just cause you saw a guy do it
I was taught to put the bucket just right of the track on the side you want to turn and to only take some weight off the machine not lift the track, it works great for me and doesn’t tear up the ground (I work on a lot of finish graded dirt) and out mechanic/operator says it’s way less stressful on the tracks and machine as a whole
I swing turn all day on my job so I dont mess up dozer work when im tracking around the job. I think its okay for your tracks if you dont do 90 degrees like this dude did. If youre just doing little 45 degree turns to find a straight line, it ends up being way faster, hardly messes up the grading, and only uses the flat part of the tracks.
I’m liking these videos we have 3 doosan excavators and I just put myself down to be a back up operator and I have no real experience in them this is good for me to learn the basics
i work also doosan dx245 and dx170(wheeler), cool excevators, remember dont rush yourself with time you will get expirience and better feeling with machine:) time is most important with excevator job.
Everyone says this is hard on the tracks/under carriage. So with that in mind, if you don't care about tearing up the ground it's best to just turn normal? I always just did a jump turn to get me turned quicker, never really thought about it being hard on the under carriage before.
Easier way, point the bucket the direction you want to go. If you want to rotate tracks 90°, take it in 2 parts and less chance of getting that last little flop feeling with the carbody. Start out like the video, tracks and bucket parallel with each other, now point the bucket 45° over tracks in which direction you want to go and place bucket on ground and rotate tracks until parallel with bucket (using the same technique as in the video, opposite swing and travel) and repeat these steps until the tracks are rotated the direction you want to travel. (you are literally bringing the tracks around to the bucket in every rotation, just take in smaller movements to avoid tearing up the ground with a complete 90° rotation in one movement)
any new operators that practice this do it in a flat area like the video. trying this in the mud or on a heavy grade it's possible to kick a track off if you aren't careful.
soo true i work in heavy grade terrain its so much harder to do this moves and also i have now a stone crusher on my doosan dx245NHD, its 3.5tons heavy so its a lot more harder and dangerous to operate.
Hello Heavy Metal learning, Looking for being a trainee operator via visa sponsorship? I'm in the construction industry in Nigeria, I design and produce construction drawings and equally supervise the production of buildings. I can drive, however, I want to be an expert in operating heavy machines e.g excavator. Thank you.
I never get anywhere near a 90 degree, most of the time would be 30-45. Get to where you can do it while tracking have your bucket back up in a swift but smooth motion . & Don't do it in a long reach good way to get 🔥
Exactly what I thought ! I mean why are u even lifting it off the ground then right ? To avoid ground contact to turn easily without the weight of the machine being on the track but I'm not expert idk what I'm even sayin
build a berm on either side of the pipe if possible and lift over it without touching the pipe. if that's not possible then you have to straddle it which is a pretty advanced technique
I work as a drilling machine driver. I have a certificate and more than 10 years of experience. I want to immigrate to a foreign country in order to work, live and settle.
@@beaubath2537 I was trying to think of an easy way to describe what they are doing lol. Just move the swing stick toward the track that's moving forward. Sounds simple but ive never run an excavator.
@@joeyj1617 that's totally fair! Excavators are weird pieces of kit to get to used and can be rough as guts! Also a little scary and daunting. I certainly not afraid to say I don't miss them although I'd happily run one again. I'm more a loader/wiggle wagon fan. But each to their own hopefully one day you'll get some seat time in an esky!
I always go -45 to 45 instead of 0 to 90 to avoid that last wobble. Less stress on the machine and much smoother operation. So instead of starting with my bucket in front of the tracks, I'd start with placing my bucket 45 degrees towards the direction which I want my tracks to turn. Try that and see the difference.
Correct. You can also alternate between front and rear turns instead of 2x turns at the same end. If you practice your timing and lever control there are no delays between movements and as you complete 1x turn & put one end down, you can use the already pressurized hydraulic circuit and small momentum you still have to continue the slew motion in the same direction and do the second turn at the other end of the machine. (For 180* turns.)
Another 2 considerations that can come in handy are,
1) If you apply just a small amount of downward pressure with the bucket, you can sprag (spin/turn) the tracks a complete 360* with relative ease. (Surface material characteristics permitting, of course.)
2) When tracking/tramming try time your turns where possible on a section of ground that has a slight 'hump' in it, you want to have the weight of the machine sitting mainly on the track rollers with the idler and drive fairly well weightless.
*That incorrectly demonstrated jump turn does have some practical uses though.
It is a handy/essential skill for tasks like pipelaying and/or trenching. (NOT for beginners, practice with imaginary pipes/trenches first. Ignore this at your own peril.)
Understanding that moment where it transitioned from both track frames on the ground to just one is also a very handy skill to develop. It gives you the ability to maintain a good level of control over the machine for situations that requires the operator to 'limp' it, if it has suffered a final drive failure/issue or if you have cracked/snapped a chain link on one track. (Also handy if you can lay the track out straight and position the digger back on it, instead of just jacking the track frame and having to manovoure the track in under the machine. *Also handy when the crest of your bench collapses while your loading and you have to catch yourself I'm the back of the truck, (with one track now sitting in mid air....) prop yourself back up to the required angle/attitude and manovoure the machine back onto the bench again so both tracks are over the ground again. LoL. Happens....)
Absolutely useless knowledge to me, but I love reading comments with people sharing tips and tricks or just straight up facts from experience.
Hey if i want to do 45 turn i need yo put the bucket on 45? And if i want to do a 90 turn i need to put the bucket on the front?
Hiii. if i want to do 45 turn i need yo put the bucket on 45? And if i want to do a 90 turn i need to put the bucket on the front?
I do the same thing
From Elko, Nv. Working in Tonapah and Goldfield, Nv. Ran loaders and haul trucks. Very minimal experience on an excavator.
Started new job this week and really getting comfortable on the controls. However the guy training looks like he's doing a damn ballet with these machines and I want to get more like him with time.
He's dozing right now and I'm sitting over looking the valley in Goldfield on drill pads we're making and learning how to do this and was able to try with much ease thanks to this video!
Thanks guys!
if you have questions about the machines then you should ask the experienced guys you work with. don't try something new just cause you saw a guy do it
Your videos are great. I just taught myself jump turns on a small Takeuchi 280fr I'm doing some clearing with. Man I love excavators.
Mate!!! I have been looking for this video EVERYWHERE. Been trying to learn this on site but can never remember the right joystick turns. Cheers mate
I was taught to put the bucket just right of the track on the side you want to turn and to only take some weight off the machine not lift the track, it works great for me and doesn’t tear up the ground (I work on a lot of finish graded dirt) and out mechanic/operator says it’s way less stressful on the tracks and machine as a whole
Bullshit. You don't work on finish graded dirt cause I you work on finish graded dirt the foreman is going to kill you
Every machine and job is circumstional. if it works and doesn't cause too much stress on the machine and doesn't make a mess then it works.
Whoever taught you knows what he’s saying.
I swing turn all day on my job so I dont mess up dozer work when im tracking around the job. I think its okay for your tracks if you dont do 90 degrees like this dude did. If youre just doing little 45 degree turns to find a straight line, it ends up being way faster, hardly messes up the grading, and only uses the flat part of the tracks.
I’m liking these videos we have 3 doosan excavators and I just put myself down to be a back up operator and I have no real experience in them this is good for me to learn the basics
i work also doosan dx245 and dx170(wheeler), cool excevators, remember dont rush yourself with time you will get expirience and better feeling with machine:) time is most important with excevator job.
Dude this helped me alot i just became a certified operator and this was really helpful
I love this tips, as a brand new in this game.
Terima kasih mr
Everyone says this is hard on the tracks/under carriage. So with that in mind, if you don't care about tearing up the ground it's best to just turn normal? I always just did a jump turn to get me turned quicker, never really thought about it being hard on the under carriage before.
He says it’s not great on the tracks, is it better than just forcing a rotation when on asphalt?
Easier way, point the bucket the direction you want to go. If you want to rotate tracks 90°, take it in 2 parts and less chance of getting that last little flop feeling with the carbody. Start out like the video, tracks and bucket parallel with each other, now point the bucket 45° over tracks in which direction you want to go and place bucket on ground and rotate tracks until parallel with bucket (using the same technique as in the video, opposite swing and travel) and repeat these steps until the tracks are rotated the direction you want to travel. (you are literally bringing the tracks around to the bucket in every rotation, just take in smaller movements to avoid tearing up the ground with a complete 90° rotation in one movement)
Excellent tip...thanks for sharing!
nice trips
any new operators that practice this do it in a flat area like the video. trying this in the mud or on a heavy grade it's possible to kick a track off if you aren't careful.
soo true i work in heavy grade terrain its so much harder to do this moves and also i have now a stone crusher on my doosan dx245NHD, its 3.5tons heavy so its a lot more harder and dangerous to operate.
Please have a video on how to load an excavator on a trailer. (Include proper binding) Thanks.
That's a great idea....we'll try to put one together. Thanks for the comment!
Thank you for beautiful channel
Thanks teacher 👍
Thank you👷♂️👷♂️👷♂️
Thanks so much sir, for spending time to enlighten me on this training. May God bless you and your family in Jesus mighty Name,Amen.
Thanks!
Hello Heavy Metal learning,
Looking for being a trainee operator via visa sponsorship? I'm in the construction industry in Nigeria, I design and produce construction drawings and equally supervise the production of buildings. I can drive, however, I want to be an expert in operating heavy machines e.g excavator.
Thank you.
up down down square triangle, b, b left , r1,r2
good vid and great tip
Thanks!
Thanks mate
I always go 30 degrees, is it professional to do that?
Thanks bro
I never get anywhere near a 90 degree, most of the time would be 30-45. Get to where you can do it while tracking have your bucket back up in a swift but smooth motion . & Don't do it in a long reach good way to get 🔥
Good
How to raise the track then?
Isn't it easier on the tracks since they are off the ground?
Exactly what I thought ! I mean why are u even lifting it off the ground then right ? To avoid ground contact to turn easily without the weight of the machine being on the track but I'm not expert idk what I'm even sayin
Thanks 👍
You're welcome!
Could you please do a video? How to jump turn over a pipe.
build a berm on either side of the pipe if possible and lift over it without touching the pipe. if that's not possible then you have to straddle it which is a pretty advanced technique
The excavator i work i turn the machine using 1 track since the machine doesnt have as much power as it did before
Would be awesome if you made a lot of quick tips rather than long videos
Zrób tak na mini koparce gdzie nie ma pedałów do jazdy,tylko drążki.
I work as a drilling machine driver. I have a certificate and more than 10 years of experience. I want to immigrate to a foreign country in order to work, live and settle.
Three controls at once? Three arms? Two tracks in opposite direction plus boom. Impossible
Never knew it had a name
Here in Nigeria, we know it as Jack-turn.
I know your here smitty
SMITTY!!!!!
We called it pivot easy pezy
Easiest way to crack your swing circle and boom specially for large excavators.
Never seen that happen, but I guess it would be possible.
No need to lift that high, just take the weight off. Also depends on material type and how soft it is
Did it alot. But tried not to.
Ruff as guts on the tracks
Not sure what this means...but this might be my favorite new saying!
Haha it's an Aussie slang word for to ruff on the machine running gear
Hindi lengvaj
So you want to swing the machine in the direction of the track that's going forward.
Yep!
@@beaubath2537 I was trying to think of an easy way to describe what they are doing lol. Just move the swing stick toward the track that's moving forward. Sounds simple but ive never run an excavator.
@@joeyj1617 that's totally fair! Excavators are weird pieces of kit to get to used and can be rough as guts! Also a little scary and daunting. I certainly not afraid to say I don't miss them although I'd happily run one again. I'm more a loader/wiggle wagon fan. But each to their own hopefully one day you'll get some seat time in an esky!
@@beaubath2537 ive always liked heavy equipment. I use a 30 ton crane at work and I love it. I want to operate anything I can get my hands on lol.
Yeah...never said it that way but that’s a good way to explain it!
Please don't listen to this man.
Hollow dear, please could you justify your statement?
Don’t do this, you don’t ever see professional operators do this in the field
Wrong wrong wrong look like a rookie tryna teach class 🤣