A lot of the AFK moments I can imagine aren't cheat adjustments, but just him replying in chat to cheating accusations. Everyone: "Hog is cheating" Hog: "uh... no"
7:58 I'm almost certain that hog'scheats must have a "pull onto trap option". He wasn't showing anywhere near that level of mechanical proficiency earlier in the match.
what other cheats was he using? he missed like 70% of his hooks and did not get a headshot every single time like homie claims. he legit just looks like a normal silver hog that is probably just getting carried by the actual cheater. also the "pull onto trap" trick isnt special, you just have to look at a single youtube tutorial on how to do it and it's not mechanically difficult at all.
@@plsscat i did. homie said the reason he's hacking is because he hits 100% of his hooks and his shots always hit and are always headshots. his shots did not always hit and his shots were not always headshots and he missed hooks. idk bro im just glad this guy isnt responsible for actually banning people from the game if that's his "tells" that people are cheating, missing shots and hooks.
i'm surprised no ones said this yet but the replay viewer will display the grouped players next to each other - the order of the names isn't random in that sense. basically, if we know the hanzo and orisa are grouped, that means the mercy is also grouped with them, as her name is in between the hanzo and orisa. i hope this makes sense 😭
hackers seem to fall into one of two categories. They are absolutely horrible at the game and are pretty much one pump chumps that leave the game after one season not caring about a ban. Or They are long term seasoned vets that have extended overwatch experience and barley give a hint that they are using walls or a slight aim assist with knowledge of game presence and positioning.
The crazy thing about the auto-melee at 1:35 is the Kiri isn't within melee kill range at first, but the split second she takes damage that puts here there, it melees for him. Watch her health bar on the top right; it goes from above half to super low, and then the melee happens.
It's always fun watching flats rip apart cheaters bad gameplay 😂 Also, their mercy is a deftones fan and they're pocket healing cheaters? Disgraceful 🤦♂️
they were also proper ass. Like I am a gold 3 mercy main and have better movement than them. Some of the choices they made were also not gameplay at that level.
I absolutely love when content creators use the old Pokemon Colosseum/XD music. Brings back so many memories of one the most underrated games of all time
That's the only reason this game is still fun to me. If 2 players with perfect aim can just position so badly that they still lose, there is hope for my trash aim to get something done.
I know it's easier for us to see these guys cheating in the replays but I still try to give the supports the benefit of the doubt since you can't really see where/how your teammate is aiming. Plus there's false aimbotting accusations that happen too so in the moment they probably don't know if they should believe the enemy team or not. I've had a person falsely claim I was aimbotting on Moira.
But, Moira already aimbots. She literally can't miss. Also I definitely wouldn't risk it because cheating is so easy for people to do now, so if someone is accused of cheating and I know that they've been popping off in a suspicious way, I'd definitely not damage boost them. Alot of people honestly just dgaf if their teammates are cheating. They just wanna win.
@@BackWithDaMilk I know, that's why I was taken aback when someone tried to claim I was aimbotting as Moira because her aim is kind of aimbottish on it's own. I just assumed they were making a joke or something but a few games later I went up against the same person and they said "why haven't you been banned yet???" at the beginning of the match when they saw me.
Apparently with how replays display group names, the Mercy at least knew. Because the Mercy’s displayed between the two she was grouped with them, so that player absolutely deserves flack for hardpocketing them.
I don't know how, but I noticed it only from the Hog's slower heal resource regen :D I don't even reallt play hog, but it just looked slower than what we have today (went from 8->10 resource/s regen I believe)
Define “pocketing”. If you mean “doing their job on supports” then the other DPS is also just as bad for killing the enemy team & not just sitting & throwing? This is a Diamond/Masters lobby- you are not gonna see what you see in Top 500/GM where they’re willing to “draw”. They also end up losing even with a “full pocket”.
@@ShibaInu102 You're an actual dumbass. If you have cheaters on your team, you don't heal or help them at all. If the enemy team is cool, you can always try to tie the game so niether team gets a lose. If you go out of your way to always heal, damage boost, and/or rez cheaters, you suck major ass. Quit trying to suck up to people like them.
@@seiichii Again, then the other DPS would be no better, correct? How dare he continue to kill the non-cheaters & keep trying to win >:0! They’re legit just doing their job as supports, and as the intro paragraph says, only the tank was properly “called out” according to the senders of this VOD. You cannot just assume everyone else on the team is “just as bad”, especially when I’ve seen other Flats video where you can tell the difference between hard pocketing & just playing the game. As mentioned before, this is a Dia/Masters lobby- you’re not going to get people who are willing to “draw” as you would in higher lobbies. You can claim they’re “just as bad” that’s your opinions, but in my opinion it’s a very biased look on what’s going on. [Edit]- I won’t continue on this topic, agree to disagree with anyone who does disagree with me. Have a great day to everyone tho! 😌
Played again for the first time in ages for the comp weekend, already playing counter watch. So fun. It’s some of the most miserable gaming I’ve ever had
So, this isn't Overwatch but there's a video titled "This DBD Cheater Keeps Getting Banned" from a channel called "Kaiffy" if you want to see how badly some cheaters can get with how brazen they can be, please watch that, what you see in that video will make the cheats you encounter in Overwatch look like child's play compared to what they do in DBD.
8:25 If the hog (or any competent player) were actually playing, he could've gotten the Hanzo here. But instead he completely whiffs because as soon as he hooks the Hanzo into range, the auto-melee kicks in.
I played against a widow the other day that looked super suspicious the first time she killed me. I was all "Oh dang I got shooted" then the killcam came up and she got 1 right before me and maybe 1 after, I don't remember, but I was like woah that didn't look normal. She crouched on each shot and the snap up to the headshots looked really unnatural, and she did it a few more times throughout the match. But then I also saw her follow one of those up by hitting and being hit by a headshot at the same time and panic firing at like 15% charge and missing until like the 4th shot, and we won so idk.
My version of "The Hog is actually fucking terrible" is "Wow, this Roadhog looks worse than me... and I don't play Roadhog." And I'm like mid-silver on tank 🤣
Somebody really needs to tell Flats that when characters in this game load back in after death, there is often a short (albeit around two seconds) period of time, where the model is loaded but the player doesn't have full control yet. Every single time he says "oh the player's AFK in spawn" I can't stop thinking about it.. because in the reply viewer, it's not gunna show exactly what the player sees, just what the game was doing. I'm not saying players don't AFK in spawn/cheat etc, far far from it.. hell, I played this game far too long to never see that happen, but it's really getting on my nerves how often people throw that around like it's some kind of concrete evidence for cheating or otherwise. Obviously AFK moments outside of spawn, after first moving in spawn, etc, are all blatant.. but I just can't unsee this. It's a fact of how the game works.
Am I the only one who noticed that widows skin, that’s a rare skin u can only get for preording overwatch on release or for switch release this man cares about that account
Damn that tracer was doing the Gods work by distracting those idiots real hard. 😂😂 This was so satisfying to watch seeing 2 dumb cheaters lose the game despite all of that. I really want to see how these players play without hacks. Bet that would be so funny
yo i had a supposed gm player in gold on console that did that little circle thing around people heads before shooting called hacks then he said "ohhhh I'm gm"
Just started playing CoD, can someone explain why even when I lose in CoD, I feel a million times better then when I win in OW? Been playing OW since beta and this is just mind boggling to me.
And yet...my account got a suspension notification today after not playing for a month and all I do is call cheaters out on the forum. This game is hopeless at this point
This is really great evidence that mechanical "ability" only goes so far in overwatch honestly. Put some cheaters that suck in a room full of people who can actually play the game and this is what happens i guess haha
Its crazy cause i pride myself on spotting cheaters... but that first fight? I wouldnt have thought they were cheating. I would just assume they have very jerky aim, or maybe on controller. The cheats are getting better and that's scary.
As someone who very rarely plays (and usually hates himself while doing it) Why exactly does Flats hate Mauga? When I play him, he's tough, yeah, but he's not super broken. I play him cus I love dakka and sustain.
The fact he realised he was RAGE hacking and turned it down to try and be discreet 😂
Yeah I had a rage hacker that I called out and then suddenly he couldn’t hit a shot
A lot of the AFK moments I can imagine aren't cheat adjustments, but just him replying in chat to cheating accusations.
Everyone: "Hog is cheating"
Hog: "uh... no"
Or team chat to his duo
NUH UH
@@SalviAlmighty Uh huh! I Saw!
Some of the afk moments are clearly hack adjustments because after he moved from being afk his hacks were stronger
To be fair, more times than not, they are adjusting their cheats, that's been shown more than genuinely being AFK to speak in chat.
One of the things I love about Flats is that he puts his chat in their place
wisdom saga :3
7:58 I'm almost certain that hog'scheats must have a "pull onto trap option". He wasn't showing anywhere near that level of mechanical proficiency earlier in the match.
what other cheats was he using? he missed like 70% of his hooks and did not get a headshot every single time like homie claims. he legit just looks like a normal silver hog that is probably just getting carried by the actual cheater. also the "pull onto trap" trick isnt special, you just have to look at a single youtube tutorial on how to do it and it's not mechanically difficult at all.
@@Sacrifice117delusional
@@lightfireplay1516 you okay buddy? mommy didnt put you down for a nap earlier?
@@Sacrifice117 you thought you ate with this LMFAOO
@@plsscat i did. homie said the reason he's hacking is because he hits 100% of his hooks and his shots always hit and are always headshots. his shots did not always hit and his shots were not always headshots and he missed hooks. idk bro im just glad this guy isnt responsible for actually banning people from the game if that's his "tells" that people are cheating, missing shots and hooks.
i'm surprised no ones said this yet but the replay viewer will display the grouped players next to each other - the order of the names isn't random in that sense. basically, if we know the hanzo and orisa are grouped, that means the mercy is also grouped with them, as her name is in between the hanzo and orisa. i hope this makes sense 😭
Imagine being a duo of cheats and still losing.
Cheating on hog is crazy 😂
AND having a mercy pocket 😭
You love to see it happen
That’s OW. Losing when you have an advantage. Crying when you are winning
just imagined this
11:27 HAHAAAAAA
Beautiful mimic of Mauga
I want this to be the sub sound
Bro that made me CACKLE at 2am
pocketing cheaters is one of the most disgusting things
And should result in a ban like your using cheats as you are actively choosing to support them
17:00 its like they heard mauga ult and immediately assumed they were in it and gave up. then panic ult when they realised theyre alive
i assume he wanted to pull the mauga out of his ult Lol idk if that is possible
@@Altwoox nah wherever mauga goes his ult goes haha have u seen the clips of him ulting on a petal platform and then dropping off the map? lol
@@puppyri0t i mean, he thought that orisa ult can pull the mauga out of the cage
@@Altwoox yep.. we were on the same page the whole time ! just brought up a little fun reference, some trivia if you will…
Man that tracer clutched out distracting the ash so hard.
a mercy player pocketing a cheater with a deaftones song as a name….wow
I’m sorry but….was that the mirrorwatch main menu….?
This a reupload I’m pretty sure
cass mag grenade as well lol
You can actually change the main menu background right now.
isnt there an event atm with alot of previous gamemodes?
@@puppyri0t yeah but this video is comp, so cass shouldn't have mag grenade in comp
OH THIS IS A RE-UPLOAD
This is from April
flats had me thinking i was having insane deja vu LOL
He has the widow pre order skin its probably his main account
hackers seem to fall into one of two categories.
They are absolutely horrible at the game and are pretty much one pump chumps that leave the game after one season not caring about a ban.
Or
They are long term seasoned vets that have extended overwatch experience and barley give a hint that they are using walls or a slight aim assist with knowledge of game presence and positioning.
Wall of text fails on the first word.
It's Actually Scary knowing there are seasoned players using Wall hacks
28:41 I low key hope this mercy get banned too…good god. Way to pocket the most obvious cheater
Overwatch: Haven’t played in over a year
Flats: Watch every day
The crazy thing about the auto-melee at 1:35 is the Kiri isn't within melee kill range at first, but the split second she takes damage that puts here there, it melees for him. Watch her health bar on the top right; it goes from above half to super low, and then the melee happens.
love the pipboy sound effect for switching to the other botter
11:20 That imitation is so good you can tell how much he's played against him.
It's always fun watching flats rip apart cheaters bad gameplay 😂
Also, their mercy is a deftones fan and they're pocket healing cheaters? Disgraceful 🤦♂️
they were also proper ass. Like I am a gold 3 mercy main and have better movement than them. Some of the choices they made were also not gameplay at that level.
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Bro … I don’t think I’ve seen so many missed hooks. What is he with no cheats?
I can't imagine him hitting the the broadside of a barn from 5 feet away without cheats
That HAHA was beautiful hahah
I absolutely love when content creators use the old Pokemon Colosseum/XD music. Brings back so many memories of one the most underrated games of all time
That's the only reason this game is still fun to me. If 2 players with perfect aim can just position so badly that they still lose, there is hope for my trash aim to get something done.
Even with trash aim you can still get somewhere.
I'm total ass with my aim but Winton and Rein are like my best characters
There is so much cheating in OW2 its insane. Qp cheating is out of control.
I know it's easier for us to see these guys cheating in the replays but I still try to give the supports the benefit of the doubt since you can't really see where/how your teammate is aiming. Plus there's false aimbotting accusations that happen too so in the moment they probably don't know if they should believe the enemy team or not. I've had a person falsely claim I was aimbotting on Moira.
How do you even aim to on Moira she only has her orbs and that purple sucky thing ( idk what it’s called just ignore my strange words)
But, Moira already aimbots. She literally can't miss. Also I definitely wouldn't risk it because cheating is so easy for people to do now, so if someone is accused of cheating and I know that they've been popping off in a suspicious way, I'd definitely not damage boost them. Alot of people honestly just dgaf if their teammates are cheating. They just wanna win.
@@BackWithDaMilk I know, that's why I was taken aback when someone tried to claim I was aimbotting as Moira because her aim is kind of aimbottish on it's own. I just assumed they were making a joke or something but a few games later I went up against the same person and they said "why haven't you been banned yet???" at the beginning of the match when they saw me.
@@Pocket_Sora That's crazy 😭
Apparently with how replays display group names, the Mercy at least knew. Because the Mercy’s displayed between the two she was grouped with them, so that player absolutely deserves flack for hardpocketing them.
26:53 you can see a little lock onto the soj before she even comes around the corner
I'm pretty sure this is old since Hanzo has 250HP and can't one shot
The background menu still has the mythic mercy skin. This hella old.
Yeah pretty sure the cass has old mag nade too
You guys are probably right but the background can be changed fyi
@@TroyButtsoupBarnes42 the background cant be changed anymore they removed that feature
I don't know how, but I noticed it only from the Hog's slower heal resource regen :D I don't even reallt play hog, but it just looked slower than what we have today (went from 8->10 resource/s regen I believe)
Is this an old replay or custom game? 10:20 That moment sounds like the old cass magnetic grenade explosion to me.
i think the worst part of this whole vod is the fact that their supps were literally pocketing them, those two are just as bad as the cheaters i fear
Define “pocketing”. If you mean “doing their job on supports” then the other DPS is also just as bad for killing the enemy team & not just sitting & throwing? This is a Diamond/Masters lobby- you are not gonna see what you see in Top 500/GM where they’re willing to “draw”. They also end up losing even with a “full pocket”.
@@ShibaInu102 You're an actual dumbass. If you have cheaters on your team, you don't heal or help them at all. If the enemy team is cool, you can always try to tie the game so niether team gets a lose. If you go out of your way to always heal, damage boost, and/or rez cheaters, you suck major ass. Quit trying to suck up to people like them.
@@ShibaInu102 if they know they're cheating and they're WILLINGLY pocketing them, they're a POS
@@seiichii Again, then the other DPS would be no better, correct? How dare he continue to kill the non-cheaters & keep trying to win >:0! They’re legit just doing their job as supports, and as the intro paragraph says, only the tank was properly “called out” according to the senders of this VOD. You cannot just assume everyone else on the team is “just as bad”, especially when I’ve seen other Flats video where you can tell the difference between hard pocketing & just playing the game.
As mentioned before, this is a Dia/Masters lobby- you’re not going to get people who are willing to “draw” as you would in higher lobbies. You can claim they’re “just as bad” that’s your opinions, but in my opinion it’s a very biased look on what’s going on.
[Edit]- I won’t continue on this topic, agree to disagree with anyone who does disagree with me. Have a great day to everyone tho! 😌
@@ShibaInu102 lmao k. flats even says fuck the mercy at the end too but im not trying to write a whole thesis
New flats video on my birthday, lets go
I’m a day late I think but happy belated birthday
Played again for the first time in ages for the comp weekend, already playing counter watch. So fun. It’s some of the most miserable gaming I’ve ever had
I'd love to see you watch these with some of the friends you play with
my first thought "how bad was the duo, and how good was the enemy team" lol
I love how the Hog kept needing to heal after literally every engagement. Bro couldn't even fight a Kiri without needing to take a breather
AAAA YOU’RE ON 200 NOW, THE MEGA REFRESHES IN LIKE HALF A SECOND YOURE SO LUCKY THE PASSIVE EXISTS YOU WENT IN WITH 100 LESS HP LIKE AHHHH
17:19 I'd imagine this ult was to double dip on golden mode as well as to get a bigger hitbox so sombra can safely escape
These people are so bad that a bronze players can kill them
Old Cass magnetic grenade?? How old is this video lmao
can't get through ur vids without like 6 long ads, insane
talked about the hanzo skin.... but the widow skin? that's pre-order for OW1 or a $700 USD skin code on ebay! ????
i am going to use "he has the manual skill of an avocado" in my league matches now
11:19 it’s a bit of both 😂
So, this isn't Overwatch but there's a video titled "This DBD Cheater Keeps Getting Banned" from a channel called "Kaiffy" if you want to see how badly some cheaters can get with how brazen they can be, please watch that, what you see in that video will make the cheats you encounter in Overwatch look like child's play compared to what they do in DBD.
8:25 If the hog (or any competent player) were actually playing, he could've gotten the Hanzo here. But instead he completely whiffs because as soon as he hooks the Hanzo into range, the auto-melee kicks in.
The pokemon colosseum music goes hard
Man I really need FLats "HA HA" as soundboard
make it your sub sound for a day :D
id love a video of you solo queue bronze,silver,gold would be great to see how it goes
i, for one, also get occupied by staring at the people in the walls
my favorite quote bwhahaah 21:30
16:15
Please, Flats, even us Silver players aren't this bad
I played against a widow the other day that looked super suspicious the first time she killed me. I was all "Oh dang I got shooted" then the killcam came up and she got 1 right before me and maybe 1 after, I don't remember, but I was like woah that didn't look normal. She crouched on each shot and the snap up to the headshots looked really unnatural, and she did it a few more times throughout the match. But then I also saw her follow one of those up by hitting and being hit by a headshot at the same time and panic firing at like 15% charge and missing until like the 4th shot, and we won so idk.
That's an insult to Deer everywhere
confirmed flats is the mauga voice actor
My version of "The Hog is actually fucking terrible" is "Wow, this Roadhog looks worse than me... and I don't play Roadhog."
And I'm like mid-silver on tank 🤣
Kinda messed up how Kephrii gets shit on for calling people cheaters when literally all the top content creators have this kinda series.
18:20 it's an auto rail gun that's why he didn't fire when mauga wasn't low
Somebody really needs to tell Flats that when characters in this game load back in after death, there is often a short (albeit around two seconds) period of time, where the model is loaded but the player doesn't have full control yet. Every single time he says "oh the player's AFK in spawn" I can't stop thinking about it.. because in the reply viewer, it's not gunna show exactly what the player sees, just what the game was doing.
I'm not saying players don't AFK in spawn/cheat etc, far far from it.. hell, I played this game far too long to never see that happen, but it's really getting on my nerves how often people throw that around like it's some kind of concrete evidence for cheating or otherwise.
Obviously AFK moments outside of spawn, after first moving in spawn, etc, are all blatant.. but I just can't unsee this. It's a fact of how the game works.
Look at the cheaters in comments claiming that pocketing a cheater on your team is your job, what a jabroni take.
14:48 You can tell this wasn’t recent do to the hinder not being a flash bang.
I ran into this same Hanzo in a qp match last season I was on tracer bro he hit me after every blink
28:25 I’d rate that Bob, Bob out of Bob
10:32 Feel good, sha sha ba da sha ba da ca.
mannnn i was hoping that surely they're not that bad and won't ult at 13:23 because there's a literal bap lamp above them but nope ...
im surprised flats hasn't tried out space marine 2
It's fascinating that the cheater didn't go Mauga.
no way the dps cheaters account had the Noire widow skin isnt it like worth rly big money?
I never seen that hanzo skin what was the crowdfunding thing flats was talking about?
hanzo has a crowdfunding skin? i tlooks cool!! are there others?
Ethical Mauga.
I think blizzard needs to have compensation points when you’re matched against cheaters and lose. It’s really crumby that they don’t have this system.
Am I the only one who noticed that widows skin, that’s a rare skin u can only get for preording overwatch on release or for switch release this man cares about that account
Damn that tracer was doing the Gods work by distracting those idiots real hard. 😂😂 This was so satisfying to watch seeing 2 dumb cheaters lose the game despite all of that. I really want to see how these players play without hacks. Bet that would be so funny
Watching this makes me feel better about my rank😂
4:11 *sees the Hanzo* they gonna know I'm seeing him so let just shoot a Sonic arrow 🤡. Dude who u think ur fooling ?
I hate cheaters they fr need to fix this shit so badly
yo i had a supposed gm player in gold on console that did that little circle thing around people heads before shooting called hacks then he said "ohhhh I'm gm"
Cheat, hack, bot... Mauga arrives all the same.
this is so painfully disgusting to watch ngl, i knew they were bad but jesus christ. they move and act like they have no brainpower whatsoever.
Cheaters who buy in-game items probably think “I’m giving them my money. Surely they won’t ban me, right?”
And I imagine they were mad at their teammates after.
Isn't that also the console pre-order skin for widow?
Just started playing CoD, can someone explain why even when I lose in CoD, I feel a million times better then when I win in OW? Been playing OW since beta and this is just mind boggling to me.
Ow is in its tf2 phase 😂😂
Wow this was during season 10 jeez
That Mercy was on the dps cheater for like 90% of the game, really makes me think they were actually a trio but idk
9:30
Why ain’t that Orb moving?
Ngl wish Flats would use the function keys to swap pov’s 😬
OH MY GOD IT KNOWS WHAT A MEGA IS HOLY SHIT
And yet...my account got a suspension notification today after not playing for a month and all I do is call cheaters out on the forum. This game is hopeless at this point
As a orisa main , this made me sad
If that Orisa is Silver without cheats then Ive gotta be a GM level player
This is really great evidence that mechanical "ability" only goes so far in overwatch honestly. Put some cheaters that suck in a room full of people who can actually play the game and this is what happens i guess haha
As a hog main this shit is too funny
Having cheats and still getting consistently rolled by the squishy hero’s is crazy
Its crazy cause i pride myself on spotting cheaters... but that first fight? I wouldnt have thought they were cheating. I would just assume they have very jerky aim, or maybe on controller. The cheats are getting better and that's scary.
As someone who very rarely plays (and usually hates himself while doing it)
Why exactly does Flats hate Mauga? When I play him, he's tough, yeah, but he's not super broken. I play him cus I love dakka and sustain.
Honestly i was waiting for them to start going all in with the hacks because i genuinely felt bad for them since they are so shit
Flats, saying the tank is a silver player is an offense to any silver players out there