Caleb Williams vs. Andrew Luck & Trevor Lawrence (Film Breakdown) | The QB Room
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Andrew Luck was so decisive and ahead of the play he even decisively retired before anyone could see it.
Too many Madden players out here trying to evaluate in the comments. Acting like "This guy was open"
Real life a qb doesnt see the whole field at the same time. You go through reads. So while your 3rd read may be open right away, the play isnt designed for you to look over there til youve gone through your 1st 2 progressions.
It's not about seeing the players being open. It's about being able to cerebrally evaluate how many defenders are in coverage, what kind of coverage they're in, using clues and determining the positioning of every coverage defender, and taking that all into account to calculate who is most likely to be open and move through reads almost instantly by looking at the bigger picture rather than just *see open man throw ball* When a qb is missing an open receiver it's because they didn't read the field and the defense correctly quite simply.
Go watch the film tho, you'll see Fields consistently looking at an open read and turning it down if the guy isn't Ohio state wide open. See him get to the top of his drop and panic because he reconized he late all the time and missed his read. He doesn't process at NFL speed bottom line.
@lukasseibel2065 Sometimes that's what it is. But as far as Fields goes, He just can't get through progressions in time. Couldn't in college either
@@TheJay1979 Yeah he'll never learn to do it. Seems to be an innate trait in people who can process space like that. He can't, he won't, and he won't be a starter because of it. Too bad, he's a good kid.
@@lukasseibel2065 is exactly right
Caleb is gona be great for a long long time. The tape says that. Period
Kirk Cousins is getting another contract while RG3 is not in the league. Playing on schedule is a talent as well.
Same number of playoff wins as RGIII too
@@user-ci1ju7mx4y But Kirk Cousins' career earnings total is 280 million dollars.....so far. 😐
@@Apollocreed2076 all that money and no wins. Diggs wanted to leave and now Jefferson does too
@user-ci1ju7mx4y . A lot more than the QB goes into any 1 playoff win or loss in a single elimination tournament. A team has to win consistently in regular season to even have a CHANCE to win in the playoffs. Successful teams understand this. A consistent, reliable QB is a premium. KC has a career 66.9% completion, 270 TD to 110 INT, a passer raring or 98.2 & 7 4000 yard seasons. He gets paid because he produces those types of numbers consistently for teams. What are RG3's career stats?
You think Caleb Williams can’t play on schedule??? These clips they are showing are HIGHLIGHTS.
Watch his 2022 tape when he had a decent receiver.
None of his receivers this year will go before round 4 or 5. His O Line was also Swiss cheese, hard to play in structure and on time when you have free rushers all the time.
Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels, Bo Nix, JJ McCarthy, Penix Jr… all would be amazing upcoming episodes to see y’all breakdown!! Great content on Caleb!
While i was watching the 2023 combine, QBs specifically, i noticed something that separated 1 from the rest. Stroud was awesome at making all throws, long, medium, short, slants, out routes, but most importantly, the short out routes & checkdowns. The other QBs did not look good at making those throws. Either the ball was not accurate, off time, or they threw it the same way as throwing a long bomb. That's when i said this is how you know who is NFL ready, how he handles the short throws. Great show guys!!!
That's true as well, touch goes a long way and it's not necessarily an easy thing to grasp either.
I think you nailed the difference between Justin Fields (who cannot throw on schedule) and Caleb Williams who has the ability to read defenses and make good, quick decisions.
College system in College dude
@@rmedina8171 either way, Fields isn't proving it, and Bears need to get a new QB
@@isaacilaug3651isn't proving according to who?, the Bears fired the OC for reason.
Anyone with a half of football brain knows that Justin wasn't properly developed.
@@keithhunt3498 That OC found a new job right away and justin got traded for a 6th. That tells you what the NFL thinks about him.
@@keithhunt3498thats why getsy got a job immediately and nobody wanted fields? Or are you just so much smarter than every nfl GM?
Love ❤It...
Do Us A Big Favor.
Breakdown the other Top QB prospects
Nix, Penix Jr and JJ...
Guys this was fucking amazing. Great job
Great video loved it😁
Thanks!
Ok the reason why the bears had the number pick was not because they were the worst. It was because the Panthers were. The reason why most of us in Chicago are expecting playoffs is due to the fact Caleb will have far more to work with than Justin Fields ever had. Do I expect CW to be perfect? Absolutely not. However he has tons of weapons/targets that'll get him up to speed a lot quicker. Even Andrew Luck didn't have the players that are available for CW.
This was great. Please compare other QBs in the draft vs their perceived "comps".
Love that idea!
Really good watch so far. Definitely going to share with some people who are weary of the “generational prospect” tag.
Keep up the good work and analysis gents!
Really appreciate that! Glad you enjoyed it
Is it trusting urself or trusting ur pass catchers and blocking too?
Quality Work!
Thank you!
The balls on people who think they can judge these kids is mind blowing!🧠🤯🔫
Please Breakdown
Spencer Rattler, and Pratt
I like both those guys
Justin Fields so good that teams willing to trade 4th round pick for him !! While Caleb Williams asking price is 3 1st rounds picks . 😮
Who is trading for the 1st pick in the draft? lets not act like people are looking too move up to 1st
@justmarcus33 of course they are lmao. Bears aren't giving CW away to anyone else. Just because bears didn't make the trade doesn't mean they weren't offered any and I guarantee they were.
Damn maybe Caleb Williams will be as good as DeShawn Watson
Depends on who has the hype. Cw13 has the hype.
@@justmarcus33 😂😂😂 this is just fcking stupid.
His ability to create, his ability to make all throws, his ability to navigate the pocket, and his ability to read defenses and throw accurate balls. These characteristics are why he will succeed.
Justin won the HS QB competition, not Trevor.
He also has won 10 of 38 games and thrown for more than 225 yards 6 times in the NFL. Time to move on.
Let it go champ
@@axeman03 As if being on a terrible team has nothing to do with team wins. Fields has higher career yards/att than Lawrence if you want to talk about passing yards lol
@Mrbx8gz career yards per attempt just means he's throwing the ball down field more in his offense. There's more to playing QB than just throwing for big plays. Justin struggled majorly in throwing in the middle of the field, most of his short quick game. That's a big part of NFL offenses.
@@Mrbx8gz That same "terrible team" won 2 of 4 games with undrafted Tyson Bagent under center. Stroud played great on a team that won 3 games the year prior. Great QB play elevates the team. I like Justin, but he is not in the top half of NFL QBs. Take a swing on Caleb who has better mechanics, processing, and an elite release.
People are still call Trevor Lawrence generational😂
The guy never was better Justin Fields.
Trevor won a playoff game! Justin has won 10 total in 3 years. And the Jags suck. Trevor is better
In what world is Fields better than Lawrence?
As a bears fan, there no world where JF is better than TLaw in any way shape or form
Both mediocre, end of story.
Super-casual box score reader take. Trevor Lawrence is way better than Justin Fields.
Would love to see a breakdown of Justin Fields and your opinions of why the bears moved on.
Jordan, NFL QB Coach.....has a nice ring to it. Yes?
Hey guys I love this. Would love to see one on russ and Justin fields?
Always liked Carson. His pre and post snap knowledge and footwork was always top level. Really good qb.
Awesome stuff guys.
Now should DA BEARS pick Caleb or keep Fields?
Especially considering the drafts picks Bears will get if they trade #1 pick
"You've gotta be able to create time and space"
Psychic's major: 😳
Bears better draft Caleb! We’ve been “rebuilding” since 85! There’s a chance we get a real franchise QB!!
Imagine if they set the draft on fire by taking Maye or Daniels over him. It would be worth it just to watch peoples heads explode
Da bears had awesome seasons all the way up until 91-92… minus 89.
wow bro, turn up your mics
Well, this didn't age at all. While watching this, breaking news Fields to the Steelers.
Thank god the bears have the 1st overall pick, because who ever they pick, probably isn't the guy and now no one else has to worry about accidentally drafting what ever bust they do.
wrong
Caleb williams has atrocious ball secured. The moment he scrambles out the pocket he has 1 hand on the ball everytime.
That’s the one bad thing he will have to do - take care of the ball he has huge hands so he should be able to tuck it strong
@@rhdtv2002 average nfl hands. 9 3/4. But still gotta not hold it away from his body like he do. It's coming out the largest hands in the league holding it like that.
Mahomes does it too, it’s a bad habit
@E09154 1) stop comparing anyone to the 1 of 1. He is not him. 2 mahomes doesn't hold the ball with one ha d when he surrounded by defenders. Caleb let college football in fumbles last year mahomes has never lead the league in fumbles.
@@gilbertlloyd8691 He still holds the ball out when he runs, the only reason Mahomes doesn’t have more fumbles because he takes less hits than Williams. It’s a bad habit even for Mahomes but i mentioned him because a lot of QBS in the NFL do it.
I stopped watching when he mentioned Tony Romo 💀
Bucking the history, sure hope Bears can actually develop CW as a franchise QB. Maybe... It could happen, we tell ourselves...
The bears probably have the best supporting cast for a #1 pick ever. If they somehow fail Caleb I'll lose all hope.
They have someone who revived the career of Geno Smith. They’ll be fine
Trevor Lawrence in his third year through 21 touchdowns and had 21 turnovers yet people keep calling this clown of franchise quarterback maybe it's his blonde hair and his blue eyes
Something no one is talking about is the credibility of his film. He has ultimate arm talent that’s obvious, but a BUNCH of his production came off broken coverages. He started the year off going ballistic against bad defenses. The volume of big plays got significantly smaller once the competition caught up to him. He started losing to mid at best defenses.
What his tape again.
Every QB look good in a structured play 😂😂
Andrew Luck lived up to the hype until he retired early. Trevor Lawrence was the best QB from his class, but he's still been kind of disappointing. I'm not convinced Caleb Williams is as good as people say he is.
Why bring up a mediocre qb in Trevor Lawerance? I sure hope Caleb is not an average qb with all the hype
He was labeled as "the next big thing" like CW is.
Mediocre ?
Absolutely no comparison, CW has not played one second in the NFL and people are comparing him to guys who have paid their dues ! And these Defensive players don’t give two craps on who you were in college . They will put the hurt and try to knock out the hero ball .
Andrew Luck really had the chance to be something special
This dude really said, "Tony Romo was a magician back there, he could create time and space." Stopped the video after that and knew not to watch this channel again lol.
Arizona state defense is atrocious sheesh
If Caleb was 6'5 230 he would be QB 2 since 2012.
Ive learned to never rate College tapes on QBs of draft for past decades and have my reasons knowing College is a tier or 2 below NFL in the QB Position. Th only thing you need to see for a young rookie QB is the guy being able to focus thru out game of the need to have No Fear of the Pocket. Fear in these QBs shows the ball being thrown away or even running away from an expecting rush of being hit while throwing. This is it and what fans need for their favored choice of the draft.
Washington should trade up to get their guy
Kliff going there makes things real interesting...
i honestly think they are going to, they will offer Chicago something i think
Don't know if you guys'll ever come back & read my comments here but an Excellent Idea For A Video that might even get the attention of *other RUclips channels* of the big names would be a split-screen showing Justin Fields doing in the NFL what Caleb has so far only done in college. This off-season is gonna be the only window in which such a thing can be relevant.
It would gain you all kinds of attention & therefore likely grow your channel - if you can handle the negative rhetoric that would come with it. Now that I've spoken before looking I'm gonna check out your other stuff. For all I know you've already done this & I'm wrong about such a video getting attention. _D-OH!_ 🤬
I think he's a much better prospect than Trevor Lawrence. Not sure about Andrew Luck, I wasn't that into football when he was coming out.
His pocket presence and his footwork NEEED to be worked on ASAP
I also think if you watch his important games or bigger games he creates his own pressure
His movement in the pocket is literally his best skill set. Wtf are you watching?
@@Ryan-wx1bi he creates his own pressure, whether he evades it or not. Watch any of the games against better defenses and you’ll see his struggles in the pocket.
Justin Who...? Beardown Caleb Williams is Coming Baby...wish Justin the Best...But Caleb Williams will be the Bears QB
😂😂 "hey our brothers are NFL QBs so listen up..." 😂
JFC is ther ANYONE not involved in a podcast?
My cousin was a practice squad QB in the NFL. I think I need to start a podcast now
As a Qb coach, I love Caleb's creative ability. However, he has a ton of red flags in his game. Just too many easy reads that go unnoticed or worse ignored.
After studying many of his games, it is frustrating to see how many easy chain movers are missed because he forces the deep throw or decides to play catch me if you can football.
He is the prime example of a high risk high reward draftee indeed.
The Bears have quite a decision on their hands.
It's not much of a decision, frankly. It's already been made.
It’s a simple decision for Chicago. As a coach you should be aware his read may take him away from a guy or not look his way when he’s open in his progression at that moment. You’re being silly and trying to create a way to find faults.
If your a qb coach and see a ton of red flags on his game. Which you mentioned 1. Which Caleb had to go for big plays to stay in games. Then your not much of a coach. Caleb is the best qb I've watched on tape in my lifetime
Michael penix jr is the most ready to step into the bears and perform day 1…
Jayden Daniels isnt better than Caleb. Caleb had no weapons and a bad Oline. Bears better draft him.
Wait is rice tan and brooks not getting drafted? lol go research I know it requires reading but google google all time ncaa qb stats you will find Caleb only twice on the list mahomes Daniel’s all over the list also mahomes is 6”2 Daniel’s is bigger too Caleb the tiny bust is not generational he isn’t even the best qb in the draft lol media don’t research anymore it’s about this guy said this and everyone goes along with it. Mark my words whom ever drafts Caleb isn’t winning
@GwWelsh-jh9ij whoever goes to the bears is. They are set up. Plus, ur partly right-you and I are just two couch analysts, and don't know shit. The bears are picking Caleb because he is better. He is Jalen Hurts with Aaron Rodgers accuracy, and Josh Allen's arm.
@@GwWelsh-jh9ijthe bears are doing a lot of finger crossing on this one. From everything ive seen it screams bust but maybe im wrong. I actually was wrong on andrew luck and sam bradford been pretty accurate ever since.
They are
@@pathunt6858what makes it scream bust 😭
I knew Carson would question Caleb’s game presnap. He isn’t that good when you see how he processes the field pre snap and why he typically snaps from shotgun. He’s a play maker but like Carson said, “you can’t just make plays”
His game does not transfer to the NFL and although I think he has the talent, I think he needs more development when it comes to pre snap reads. He never even snaps from under center which shows more of how he can’t read the field pre snap.
If anyone can logically point to how I’m wrong then please do as I want to understand more about being a QB but his play making ability will last only so long in the league. Joe Burrow was absolutely one of the best I’ve ever seen in terms of being nfl ready and haven’t seen anyone since have that. As in, Caleb is not the guy he’s perceived to be.
Jayden Daniel’s has proved he can process the field, get through his reads, make plays when he needs to, and played against defenses that would have collapsed Caleb’s game.
Dude the guy is not special on the field. He missed the WIDE OPEN receiver twice on the same route. 😂 then barely threw it in bound. Not impressed!
Williams makes 9 amazing plays and then one bad one and fans focus on his 1 bad one lmao. 40 tds to 5 INTs. Bears are going to instantly be better having this kid (CW).
I agree I’m seeing avg and bad footwork bad at reading I seen rice get open several times this year he held the ball and rolled out same with taj dude had weapons didn’t capitalize to play hero ball nfl will eat him alive you got to understand one thing Washington,Chicago,and New England have bad o lines. You need Daniel’s not another hold the ball and especially his scrambling ability in nfl won’t hold. Fields and Daniels scrambling worked but fields had same issues held ball and misses open players Daniel’s already had two great wr and can hit the middle left and right at mid long and short passes
@@bryantlawson6270 Hey man, I understand what you’re saying. At the same time Justine was out in a bad situation that went downhill faster than a stock market crash 📉 and no one gave him any sympathy or cared enough to truly help with his development. JF is on a better spot now. CW needs to come out the gate on fire 🔥
IDK, dude on the left just gives me the wrong vibe. Cant quite put me my finger on why. Perhaps its "when i talk to rookies all the time i make sure i tell them "generic low thought or effort buzzline"
But it was Arizona ST.... Why not show the 2023 ND game or the other 5 ranked teams USC lost too. I hate these highlight reals because they are always against subpar teams... CW is not good with talented teams...
I just don't see the difference between Justin and Caleb. Justin held the ball too long, and so did Caleb. I'm the NFL. Good D will trample him. Don't get me wrong, he will have some big plays, no doubt, but so did Justin. The main thing an NFL qb needs is quick progression and getting the ball out.
If you don't see the difference between Justin and Caleb then you don't know ball
If CW comes t Chicago he's not coming to a trash team.
If history is to be believed, he has like an 80% chance of being a bust. Who does and doesn't make it as a QB is such a crapshoot
Lol where tf did you come up with that number?
24 QBs selected #1 overall. You think 19 of then have been busts? Lol
Bradshaw, Aikman, Manning, Manning, Luck, Elway,, Stafford,, Bledsoe, Vick, Carson Palmer, Plunkett, Cam Newton.
There's half, just for fun
I was actually surprised to see but since 1970 there have been 27 QBs taken. 7 were outright busts and 2 still need more time to determine (Bryce young and Trevor Lawrence). 4 were HOFers and the rest, 14, were solid if not borderline HOFers. I put Eli Manning and Matt Stafford in this list.
The tape says Caleb will be great fir a long long time
Lucky was 🗑️
Caleb Williams don't be the next Patrick Mahomes be the best Caleb Williams
Williams < Daniels
Please learn football and stop watching people on TV give hot takes
lol you actually comparing them to this bust lol Caleb on his best day couldn’t beat out both on there worse day gtfo that’s hilarious
Jayden Daniels > Caleb Williams
Full cap
Nothing impresses me about CW he misses all the structured play and likes to get out of the pocket, extend the play, and routes are extended and now it’s free ball. This is Justin fields 2.0 but smaller physically and mentally. Go look at Jayden Daniels a better QB who’s a better pocket passer and can mobile when he needs to be.
That’s his highlights. If you watch his games he plays very well in the pocket
Doesn't he have something like a 70% completion percent when in the pocket? This "can't play within structure" thing people keep on saying really makes me think that they've just seen some highlights, but not any actual drives.
I watched both his Notre dames games both this year and last year. He consistently misses open routes then extends the play and eventually gives it to the player who was open during his route. Same strengths and weaknesses of Justin Fields but smaller physically and from all these rumors a big ego as well. Usually big egos also crack easy as well. Too me JD shows better QB ability. I only watch one game of his, but he showed better poise in the pocket. Doesn’t panic or has the need to scramble out, because he reads the defense well and knows the routes well. He’s the better structured QB.
@@edl6026bruh u watched his worse game in his college career. Got to have more variety to say stuff like like
Everybody keeps using 1 game and QB always miss open guys. CW completion was higher this year than Heisman year with less talent. Not one of the USC players will be drafted in the top 3 RDS.
CALEB IS A BUST BRYCE YOUNG 2 .0 - ANYONE LOOKS GOOD SURROUNDED BY 5 STAR ATHLETES JUST LIKE BRYCE YOUNG - HE IS NOT A WINNER PENIX JR IS BEST QB FACTS
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