How Street Harassment Affects Female Bike Messengers | NSFWomen
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2016
- Catcalling isn't just harmless fun. These bike messengers from Philadelphia tell us how street harassment makes their jobs more dangerous.
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Catcalling sucks. Don’t yell sexual things at strangers trying to work. Pretty sad that needs to be said.
rootsm3 AAWWWW
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If are making a living by only bike couriering, you have to working at least 6 hours a day, 5 days a week. If you are working/cycling that much it is literally impossible to be overweight.
Jack mostly true unless these woman are eating more then that cycle off
It's not. I'm a messenger and even though most of us are quite thin (many too thin for "normal" standards" ) there are a couple of fat guys in my company. I don't know how they manage (I guess by eating a LOT of food and not precisely the healthy one), but they ride 300-400kms a week and they are still fat
Or they may have started overweight and have worked it all off yet.
You arent very smart. How many women have you harrased
The comments in this video is heart breaking. Can’t believe this is what people really think. It’s disgusting.
Marie Leah it is what it is dumb bitch
males hate us
So I live in San Francisco and I WISH I had the balls to be a messenger. I’ve worked as a bike mechanic since I graduated high school and I really gotta say..... keep going! You guys are fucking inspiration for me to keep riding to work everyday!
Might I recommend carrying mace/pepper spray and for a last ditch effort possibly a rape whistle to get others attention. *PS, I think what you ladies are doing is brave and sets an example for everyone that people should be more kind to the biker/bike messenger community in a whole. Be safe and ride on.
One last note, many bikers/bike messengers have started using cameras to document what happens the good and the bad it can always be helpful to show who, when, and where it happened.
Slip-on's and open toed shoes are you serious
that's what i thought too. what kind of messengers are they? There must be no deadlines because every show i've watched on bike couriers talks about how competitive the business is. Their rides show the wear and tear, the messengers look the part, and have enough nerve to zip around in traffic, not coast along enjoying the sunshine on the way.
4:46 bike to work month Larkin and Liza are not a messengers
Mark Mendoxa Really? That's the best that you could come up with? Focus on the topic of the video, okay sweetheart?
Yes really your pedaling is not efficient in slip-on's and in open toed shoes i thought they where all bike messengers that's petty bad their job to ride a bike and your making it harder for themselves and not every comment has to be focused the topic.
littlegoobie Maybe it’s just footage for the documentary? Why is it any matter?
Touching, catcalling is over stepping the mark. I see a pretty women, I think to myself "nice" and move on. To those who harangue women are just deviant predators, scum.
so, I was a messenger for a long time in SF.first and foremost as far as street harresment it is
far worse to be a woman then a man making delivery's. in my small slice of the industry I thought it was not sexist. I could be quite wrong.i hope that where you ride, you as a woman know or knew that if you can get to the spot the brothers and sisters have your back. if you didn't feel that then every messenger in your town needs to take a hard look at themselves. in SF that's a given that we all have each other's backs. bigger picture the female riders deal with more shit, and more demeaning bullshit then men. to finish I just wanted to say, and think about the fact that both male and female Messengers are dehumanized and brutalized as the normal cost of work.
signed a 15 year Frisco vet.
interesting video. I didnt know women were catcalled on their bikes till this past summer. That really blew my mind
Ikr!!!! 😲
I once reported a crime and was shocked when the policeman just laughed and mocked me. I was so shocked. It hurt more than the crime I was reporting. So I do feel for you female cyclists.
Jack Frost what dose that have to do with anything
What did u expect lmfao
I was a messenger for six years and I knew several female messengers, some were actually attractive and never, ever did I hear any of them complain about sexual harassment, and trust me, we would've.
well it happens.
@Angry Vegan Cyclist feminist are really targeted for what they are, strong and indepandant whamen that need no men except the police when they need to claim false rape
Alexis Marino no it doesn’t what is this propaganda bullshit
so because YOU don't know women who have gone through this experience (WHICH I DOUBT), that means sexism doesn't exist at all??
That moment when you're a female runner but you don't get any harassment cause you're as flat as a board in every sense so a simple hat makes you look like a dude... kinda thankful for my board body
TheOnlyPotato I’m a runner and cyclist with the same body type you described but I’ve still been cat called and followed while running. Idk why because I honestly look like I’m dying( I’ve seen pics lol)
I like the girl messengers they're solid riders and they're always willing to share tips and information.
I once had a girl shout at the same thing to me, and ask me if I could give her a ride on my bike, and she was laughing with all her friends, I think they were tourists. I rang my bell and said "Sure, but I'm late for work," and everybody laughed. I guess it's different when a girl flirtatiously asks a gut that in a fun way.
Yeah guys and girls take it much differently.
That being said a lot of these happen to most. People pretend it's safe for men in the dark but lot's of men get hurt too and it's not always safe, just men will usually hide it more because it's manly.
Bruh.... No-one is cat calling these chicks. Honestly
hahaha the punk one certainly not
I dunno, some dudes will catcall anything remotely female that moves. And even though I most of these ladies wouldn't have a shot at winning a traditional beauty contest (beauty is in the eye of the beholder) a certain type of guy may feel less intimidated and think that because these girls seem anti-establishment with all their tats and piercings and think that they may have a better chance with them. I saw a guy catcall "hey baby!" at a skater chick the other day (she was kinda cute but too scrawny for my taste), and she had that whole grungy, punky look to her with the green hair and the nose rings and whatnot.
+AARON MORGAN Get off of this and go back to your mother's basement.
How do they manage to be fat while riding a bike 24/7?
They probably eat more than they're burning lol
Yooooooooo lmaoooooo
Yes
Yall are gay
The amount of pathetic men on this thread who think harassment is about attraction. It's about power and men asserting their dominance over women for sport and to make themselves feel manly. Trying to erase the experiences of women because it's actually embarrassing to accept that some men behave like this. Imagine if someone were to do this to your mum or sister. And no it's not flattering to be groped or catcalled or having in the back of your head, is this man a rapist.
you're well cool
Keep up the good work ladies!!
THANK YOU KRS! Also, it is nonsensical to claim that women "exaggerate" or make up stories of harrassment- think about it: WHY on Earth would anyone feel motivated to do something like that? (And brilliant job, btw, of speculating that the one girl isn't even a Cycler because of her body! DAMN.)
imagine being black 6'7 240 with dreads ... I'm a courier too and persecution happens to any minority on a bike
Yea dude people in cars are just simply bold
Sexy Vegan holy sh!t, sexy vegan! I saw you on Dr. Phil.
How is it to be black?
I read an article about how riding a bike is a way for guys to understand what it's like to be harassed as a woman. The cars are bigger than you and they can do whatever they want and you can't do anything to them.
thanks for sharing the video...very informative
I am a male in excellent shape. I was on my long run, 7 miles. A twenty something motorist yelled "Get a bra!" at me. I have muscular pectorals with very little fat, but they still bounce. So, it happens to all of us. It is the motorists feeling of insecurity and being safe in their cage.
Cagers are just mad they they have to be stuck in traffic
Damn...that's really tough for them, I had no idea how much of a problem that is. Big up for those who ride! Stay positive ❤️
13% of them have CONCERNS about being attacked by strangers. sh*t.. go into a bad part of town and 85% of people both men and women have actually been attacked and everyone is concerned about it. this trash media company took women with complaints and used that to try and paint a sweeping picture. propaganda.
@@chrishayes5755 feminism has become a man hating philosophy that’s the purpose of this propaganda. In the hood no one feels safe men or women.
I'm really curious about how they shoot some scenes in this video. The scene of a female riding bike shot from the lower view, like do they actually set the camera that low? @@ someone help me explain this please...
I've seen people use a skateboard and go alongside cyclists -- they are able to crouch low and stay steady to grab those shots. It's gnarly.
This the first time hearing of bike messaging.
was a whole movie about it with joseph gordon levitt
I crush so hard on levitt!
Premium Rush
ekborowiecki but all the actual bike messaging is pretty much the same
You poor poor summer child.
Thanks for the video. I did not know this! Here in Germany / Munich we have a lot of women cycling, but I wish more would hit the road and ride.
ARSCH GUCK
That shit happens to all cyclists.
Please provide caption in English (Brazil).
this isn't funny but when she said fondled I chuckled
Everybody wants to be a victim and wear it like a fucking badge.
WOAH! Things they can do to you more easily than a man? Are you implying women aren't equal to men?!? Not even 30 seconds into this video, how dare you!
This is crazy, so far I haven’t had this experience while cycling but it’s a fear that’s in the the back of my head, which is BULLSHIT! No human should have to live like this, wish more was being done about women’s safety & cyclists safety in general!
Yeah (I am a man) that kind of harassment & physical violation is bull shit. I don't do that to women. Honestly it will only end when other men see it & throw down & call guys out on it. Then these guys who never learned their manners will not want to act that way. Guarentee they fear being confronted about it.
I love women I don't like seeing women being touched in wrong places i feel bad for my women
I think it's inhumane how this occurs to women, I actually know some of the female messengers in the city. I just never knew how rough they have it. I am very open-minded, and I respect all types of human-beings. I just know that the cops WILL not do anything at all, they're worthless and unlawful. You need to take actions onto your own hands. I would've got my U-lock, swung at the guy's hand, and then sprint fast as hell out of there. Maybe it will do something, but it could land you in trouble and not them, right? What a world we live in... How pitiful. No human male should never treat women like a sex object... How pathetic. I tell some of my buds that catcalling is harassment, and it's never okay. I guess they will have to find out the hard way at this new generation of time. The next person who catcalls, I am the one who will call them out on it! Rather it's street thugs, construction workers, hell, it could be anyone. I'll catch 'em.
This doesn't seem legit lol. Like they are wayyyy too out of shape to be bike messengers
It does seem weird, but actually cycling isn't an effective weight loss method if not combined it with a diet plan and good rest periods. I imagine as a bike messenger the wages are extremely low and your busy 24/7 leaving little time for proper rest. Maintaining a lightweight road bike is very costly, thus making it difficult to afford healthier foods and the time to prepare them. Eating cheap carbohydrates all day long might be all they can afford to do what they do. Regardless these ladies must have terrific health, strength, and stamina. They would be able to ride harder/longer than most of the people watching this video. Good job gals, keep it up.
But counter intuitive surely? Every pound on the saddle is an extra pound to carry.
I think the thicker one, if she keeps rolling this job and cuts out a few things from her diet, she could slim up real quick...
You can be over average in terms of weigh and still be very fit to bike and even swim. Excess fat affects running more than biking.
Sam Vander Linda Um, no maintaining a lightweight bike is not costly.. Spending 200 bucks a year on a bottom bracket, a chain or 2, and a cassette, is nothing.. you could find 200 bucks a year on the ground if you had to..
80% of the women in this video have 100% not been catcalled in their entire life.
And you know this how?
LadyBeritanavatarius he's going off by their looks
LadyBeritanavatarius my bet is, and this is going off your looks, that you’ve never been catcalled either. Haha 😆
LadyBeritanavatarius cause they look like you
+July Smith. Go back to your mother's basement.
Women dont have to feel that fear either! Americans have the 2nd Amendment to guarantee the right to have a firearm for self protection. Get a pistol, learn to shoot strait and you become equal to anyone.
Oh no poor 1st world American women
Kaley Hepp really pushing suicide?
American women are the single most entitled group of people on Earth. Women have it all here. Idk why so many complain
It dosnt matter. Women shouldnt be subjected to this shit. what if it was you? hmmm??? how would you feel being harassed while trying to work everyday? you should be defending these women and show support.
I was a bike msgr in the 90s and had lit cigarette thrown at my head, nasty comments, and worst was loser who slapped my backside from a moving car which wasn't funny and caused me injury. Back then we had to wear spandex company uniforms which didn't help the situation. Also got called "juice queen" because I did a lot of runs one day and accused of *ing the dispatcher. Guys who worked with me & some of the other couriers were my brothers though and they looked out for me. We used to ride with krypto locks on our bars and had the bar part on a bungee cord thing that we used to defend ourselves if need arose....could dent a car or a head ....jk
Having a son is immoral atp they made this world a nightmare
oh man, don't bother to call the police. you philly ladies are solid. we, as couriers have to deal with this on our own. not that we should . as a dude who spent well over a decade in the industry I can not begin to tell how many times I have had issues with the public.that being said, what my sister riders had and have to deal with is another level.it is one thing for people to try to fight you for doing your job, that is very
fucked up people. it is a whole other thing for someone to abuse you in the style or fashion of all sexual predator for being a woman who dares to ride in public. stay strong sisters!
This is why I love mace and knuckle rings.
Unless people are jumping in front of their bike
They're not being affected in the least
Yeah because words don’t have meanings or any impact on the people they are directed at, having your arse groped randomly whilst you ride won’t have any kind of effect on you, you fucking idiot.
this is my absolute favorite youtube series
Elizabeth Tran yo I knew an Elizabeth Tran in highschool. Fuckkk she was mad sweet. Elizabeth is that you???? 😚😙
So sad.... I'm a boy and i can't think like that...
First before I blaber on super much respect to all lady messengers and lady rider's and all rider's !
Ok I work as bike security 2 day's a week and there's like a hand full of messengers and one is a lady young girl bless her 2 weeks ago she came to and told me some A-hole was harassing her and try to grab her I jump on my bike told her show me the soms a beach and yeah I found his A I'm just going to say I haven't seen him yet since.
On my off days I work as a messenger also and yeah there's a few girls flying and making those delivery and man those girl's can ride.
Much love and respect to all lady messengers !
I cannot begin to testify just how unfair it is for women whether it be in the workforce or the type of activities we choose to do in the constitution of our freedoms. I worked in a bicycle shop and was the only female on board and the guys back then made my work life really unpleasant implying that a female does not belong in a place such as cycling. I know one thing for sure I definitely need to testify the truth about many matters among men vs. Women or the rich vs. Poor; just how difficult it is for the two and ongoing discriminations...I should write a book about just how abusive and unconstitutional USA is toward women and the poor.
If you worked 5 jobs one day while the male did 10 to 15 that same day of course he's going to get payed more than you. *Facepalm*
To me, personally I feel they're experiencing what use guys experience with other perverted guys. There's women out there on social media who portray themselves as sexual objects. Go on most social media and you'll see half naked women. It's those types of women who mess it up for the other women, same thing as perverted men they're talking about messes it up for the good guys out there. I'm not saying that touching anyone unwanted is okay. Just stating it happens on both sides.
This is why many messenger companies don't hire females unless there tough and manly. They whine and cry about the most petty things. Why did this film feature the most unattractive women to showcase ? I don't believe a word they said about being harrassed...too fat and and one had too many tattoos... yuck!
Cedric Bethea every kind of woman gets harassed, men do it for fun, it's got nothing to do with being attractive, it's to exert dominance. In the UK if a bike company were to not hire females, they would find themselves on the end of a discrimination claim.
KRS Me wearing a short skirt is still not asking for it. Me being totally naked at a festival is still not asking for it. My nature state that I was born with is not asking for a grope. Just USE YOUR WORDS. And you will often be pleasantly surprised, and/or gain respect for women who keep strong boundaries. Be ok with rejection, it's not personal. We just deserve to be safe in our own skin.
1:09 that's just straight up road rage
great video ! :D
Sad much power to you ladies
I get this everyday
can't imagine that much harassment.... dont get it here in New Zealand :)
These percentages are really now tho...
I highly doubt these women get catcalled smh
nice Kreutzberg Cap greeting from Berlin
Bike messengers shouldn't be fat
Smileyfacedkiller she won't be for long
My Body my business, lol
Smileyfacedkiller stfu
Wait what?
Andrey Gvamotey sure, just saying, as a bike messenger.myself, speed is how you make money. Being fat slows you down
The women are just taking it and whining about it. If I was a in their place and treated like that I would confront those men, do something about it, probably beat them up. Make sure they would never want to mess with me again. These women need to toughen up and probably take some self defense classes.
old vid however woman can as much if not more then us men and are equals as well as valued just as we are. sad world, why can't we just all be happy pursue dreams and be kind .
Just...bike away
How a person rides a bicycle all day long and still be fat?unbelievable . doesn't deserve harassment tho.
ffs what a load of bollocks
nope a load of tough ovaries
6:13 men ruining our dreams
Nice comedy video
why dont these videos have tons more views?? incredibly done and fascinating
I was riding my bike the other day and some bro in Chevrolet Tahoe that was full of frat boys yelled at me, asking me to show him my dick... I'm gonna go make a RUclips video and cry about it. People yell at you because you're on a bike and its funny to yell shit at us cyclist. Heres another absolutely true story, I was cruising down the street and a Jetta full of girls drove by honking and making noise and waving at me. Funny, I didn't find that offensive though
Glad to see women bike messengers out there Good for you😀👍. However you should get some pepper spray, they have them to go on handle bars, some side mirrors might help too so you can see these 🐷 behind you, it also helps with idiot drivers who might hit you from behind, either way be safe Girls and God Bless you😀❤️🙏
Women are so strong
The fact that so many comments cant believe that these women are harassed cause they're "ugly" is so disgusting. So your subjective opinion about a woman's beauty dictates facts now? Yeah.. okay...
I' am really confused by the overweight messenger. WTF How is this even possible!? That film is some stupid shit to me :/
bike messenger is a pretty blue collar job, when the rubber hits the road. you sweat, it's more dirty then you think, you are always working on your bike, and it's way more dangerous then you think. also the pay is shit for the most part. as a dude that spent a long time in the industry, I have always been in fear for my life, at least once a week more probably every day. male Messengers get harassed all the fucking time. street violence is normal. that being said, female riders have in my experience a hell of a worse time on the road. I am not trying to belabor a point that should be obvious, but the women in the biz, as I see it, experience more street violence, and more sexual harassment then any man that rides a bicycle for 8 or 10 hours a day. if you, bro, don't think that is true then go ahead, put on a skirt and play in traffic for 8 hours a day for, idk maybe 3 months.
Every profession has +++'s and -----"s. If the positives dont blow away the negatives then change profession.
It would be nice to see a video that focuses on some of the positive aspects of this unique occupation
This video has a mix but her channel is almost all positive. ruclips.net/video/o8QCjcYhR88/видео.html
Wow~ so cool~👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
WTF
These comments, my god.. It's incredible just how bullshit we men are.
I like how one of the chicks was using straps on a FUCKING CRUISER. don't use straps if you don't used fixed XD
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Loved this! you girls are brave and badass! I notice strange things happening around me everytime I ride my bike, so it's something triggering for sexist guys apparently
there jealous that they cant ride a bike like you all do. and the authorities they just dont know how to deal with stuff like this. but yea even being a young black male. i have also been harssed in the treets by ped motorist ect
those who are female riders u guys just skid infront of them if u get harrassed :D
from a guy but not representing all guys i am sorry... we are not all pigs...
always the ones with purple hair XD
Ok so they go to the highway with a bike good luck 🤗
Wow~👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
ME AND THE BOYS BEING BIKE COURIERS
Answer: it does but it shouldn’t. These are just sensitive women. Just fucking ride a bike and ignore it
I think a lot of this is people being derogitory because they are messengers and happen to use female specific names because they happen to be women.
Christ, I have had instances of female receptionists making unusuan comments when I was a messnger.
I recall one who asked where I had been after having broken my elbow upon explaining this she explained that she has broken "bones" but not her own ...wink wink. OMG I am so traumatizes...NOT!
Hell, as a make messenger, the more receptionists made leud or sexual comments to me the better!
Hell yeah, grab my ass!
Guess guys are just different.
Recently, I was walking down town and a group of 3 girls and 1 guy were walking the same direction but I was hurrying to my graveyard shift. I forget what they were saying but they were drunk and had these sticks of bread. One girl whacked my ass with bread and I laughed, it was funny and they were cute when it dawned on me how ,if I wanted too, I could make up some ridiculous claim that I was sexually harrassed and shit. I thought, what if I were a girl and these were men? They could get in shit for that.
I dunno. I am not female but I think people have become so worried about being perceived as being too agressive that no one can flirt or hit on anyone without second guessing if they will get targetted as being a creep. No wonder its difficult to meet people . The thing is that if some chick iis into you and you flirt with them its cool and they love it but should you happen to do it and they aren't interested you are now some sick disturbed weirdo. No wonder guys don't try anymore.
I think society has become a bit too overly libtarded and super sensitive.
I shall now be ready to get a bunch of lefty hate, let it begin...
schlooonginator dude you are completely simplistic in your comparison. what if a bunch of men grabbed you up, and were physically stronger and faster than you so you were actually in danger. That is the male to female dynamic, completely different.
Men matters too, but i guess it's just a matter of fact that its MUCH more safer to be a male messenger than a female. And most of the times male messengers are ignored cause its normal but its rare to see female being messengers. And also the risk is higher for female, but that doesnt mean male messengers arent harrassed, but at the same time if its a female imagine if they came across a group of men they can be easily dragged away, but if its a male they'll more likely ignore you
Shite you have to put up with that ladies
What is this feminist carp???
danny carp is a fish, idiot!
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Wow, you're a cyclist in a major city probably not going faster than 25 mph and you experienced harassment from drivers? iv'e never heard of that before...Also, how do you ride your bike all day and still be obese? makes no sense
Chin up,no,one of the other ones.
wtf don't associate bicycling community to that weird, mental illness feminism stuff
even though men are more likely to be physically assaulted? I get that verbal harassment needs to stop, but when women say "I feel so unsafe because I'm a women, a guy could physically harm me more easily because of my gender" I'm just like naaaaaaah
Okay here's the real problem women like to be one person during the day and one person during the night you want to be able to sit on the web cams and sell yourself to men all night long and collect that money and beg for men to buy you things on your websites to see you naked and then when men treat you the same way out in public you complain about it I'm not saying it all women I'm just saying it most women in the majority of women get treated very wrong because of this practice now if you women did a better job of policing each other then there wouldn't be this problem you'd have room or respect in public you need to step up a plate and start putting these women out of business from doing this practice it's not the men's fault it's the woman's fault because they're the ones on the web cams website selling themselves and saying putting up things ain't go buy this for me on Amazon if you really like me to get free stuff so you have no right to complain until you address your own groups attention in society step up the plate clean your house then you can complain otherwise quit whining about being groped in public that's why you're treated the way you were treated the cops know it everybody knows it the majority of women want to be this sexual animal on the internet without having to put up with the groping during the day you can't have both
It's hard for me to empathize. But when that chick said "i don't even want to ride anymore" that struck home for some reason. And i remember the times i talked myself out of riding because of all the vicious farm dogs where i live that constantly chase me. It's really disheartening. I'm sure its a similar feeling. The part i cant empathize with is why sexual harassment is at all threatening, but i suppose its all relative.
And how dare you suggest that not riding a bike is the answer lol. Ride or Die!
Sorry but nobody would ever harass these kind of females. The only thing I believe is the spitting thing and thats not cool
These ladies are SO TOUGH that they can't handle a few words being spoken to them.
3:10 5 jobs a day? LOL. Even 10 is laughable. In Canada we're doing 40+ a day average, through winter too. 40 drops, so that's 80+ stops in 8hrs.
4:10 Yes, we do worry about assaults. Just because you can fight doesn't mean you'll win or that you'll walk away unscathed even if you do fend them off. Especially in cities like Philly etc. I wouldn't fuck around in North Phil or Kensington area if i didn't have to. Do they really think we just walk around like superman all day?
males☕