Kanye may not crack the Top 10 as a pure Rapper, but he’s the GOAT Artist. Putting his controversies & antics aside - Kanye’s talent, career, influence, and legacy is unrivaled. He has the greatest discography rap has ever seen and he’s the most innovative and influential Artist of the modern era, having an unfathomable influence on multiple generations of countless Artists. As an Artist, Musician, Producer, Curator, & Performer - Kanye is THE GOAT. Someone THIS talented may never be seen again.
Something you have to consider with Pac‘ is that his career only lasted 5 years. His debut album released in 91‘ and he died in 96‘. Everything 2Pac ever put out, he produced in only 5 years, during which he had to sit out a prison sentence. So I think just for the sheer amount of quality music he released, the impact that he had and the popularity he reached in such a short time, you have to include 2Pac in a Top 10.
Seeing Black Thought on Lu's list is just awesome. That guy might be the best rapper ever from a technical and lyrical standpoint. His pen game is INSANE. Also love the 3 Stacks love because despite no solo albums, he's put together an all-time career with his work in OutKast and all of his legendary features that steal everyone's songs.
@@peamut547In terms of pure rapping ability and lyricism Black Thought is better than DOOM, but as an overall artist considering entire discography it goes to DOOM
@@Jc-ql8dp2pac is overrated if we’re talking about influence I’ll agree he’s number 1 easily but he just doesn’t have the skill set to be the Goat rapper
You are so delusional Ice Spice She isn't a Good Rapper she can't Rap at all BiA she is a way better Rapper than her No Wonder Everybody in this Generation They are so lost especially when it comes to down to music
Ghostface Killah for me has to be a top 10 rapper ever. Has two undeniable classics of his own in Ironman and Supreme Clientele, with some other albums you could consider, like Fish Scale, Apollo Kids or even 12 reasons to die or the Pretty Toney Album. He is also a big part of 3 classic albums - 36 Chambers, OB4CL, and Wu Tang Forever. Elite storyteller and lyricist, one of the best flows, and so fly with his rhymes, classic songs and verses, and also a great longevity.
Three undeniable classic. I would put Fishscale in that classic category with Supreme Clientele an Ironman. And he has a bunch of great albums with zero bad Hip Hop albums
IMO Ghostface Killah is in my top 10. He’s got an amazing solo discog, amazing features, amazing group work with multiple classics under his belt spanning 15 years (36 Chambers-Fishscale). He’s got a great rapping voice, amazing lyrics, flow, etc. he’s definitely top 10, possibly top 5 imo
Nah, i can't put no rapper inside a Top 10 that's been rehashing the same style his entire career. Like, if you listen to Only Built 4 Cuban Linx and you listen to 36 seasons he's rapping the same way, same flows, same type of bars, etc... Those albums are literally 20 years apart, lol. The only thing that changed is he has different producers supplying the beats now... That's it. And even still he doesn't really want to hop on something different to kind of pour some fresh gas into the tank... He keeps picking the boom bappy type shit.
@@zennihilator3724I totally understand, that’s maybe why Ghostface doesn’t get much mention because he didn’t have much growth after Supreme Clientele I’d say. I still think he’s a top tier mc and I guess it just comes down to personal preference because I’m a huge Wu-tang fan. Top 5 may have been an overstatement tbf
@@bigmibeatz Indeed, and not just Ghost, i think a lot of 'rap greats' from the 90s suffer from the same thing. A lot of them made it big early on in their career and then kept repackaging that formula since it worked for them at the start... but like all things in life, you can't keep doing the same thing and expect people not to find you boring after a while when the novelty starts to wear off and you become predictable as an artist, which is never a good thing... The thing is when we talk about the best rappers ever... A lot of them motherfckers can spit cold 16's all day... That's why they're greats... So then outside of pure personal preferance which is entirely subjective, we need some criteria to seperate the cream from the crop... And a couple of key factors i look at are how well can you incorporate your ability to rap and use that to make good, memorable music that's enjoyable to listen to... Like a good example of what i'm talking about is Logic... Logic can rap his ass off but very few people care about the albums he releases because he doesn't know how to make song out of rapping... It's like most his songs are freestyles he put down on paper and re-fined a little and that's it. Another thing is how versatile you are. Like, if you're in the NBA... It's great that you can shoot 45% from three, but if that's all you do on a basketball court is spot up shoot then i can't take you seriously as one of the best players in the league... Great players are great because they mastered many different styles and techniques and know how to switch it up depending on the context of their team and the game to still produce at a high level. I feel like a lot of these rappers people are naming as all-time great, if you put them on a non-traditional beat, they'd sound completely out of place... And then finally what's your discography looking like. A lot of cats can produce one legendary album and then rehash that style 5 times, but how many can produce multiple S-tier albums, reinvent themselves artistically etc. I'm talking about guys like Outkast, Kanye, Kendrick to an extent... Like, you don't even have to reinvent the wheel, just put out something that's 40 minutes long and has no skips... My favorite rappers is probably Freddie Gibbs right now, and i don't think he reinvented the wheel or anything in the rap genre (though he does rap on a large pallette of different production), but he put out like 10 projects in the last 15 years and the amount of weak songs total on those projects is probably 5%??? Like out of every 100 songs he releases like 5 maybe are mid filler type shits... The rest you can literally play through multiple times and never gets old. How many cats can say that? Come on mane...
@@zennihilator3724do you really care so much about it if it’s one of the best styles the rap world has ever presences? And no, his style did evolve into being something more of a hypeman in supreme clientele and increasing that tenfold into fishscale. He doesn’t sound like his 90s style and if he’s done so who am I to care? He’s incredible on the mic
You guys should definitely do a top 10 list of your favourite hip hop groups of all time. Would be interesting to see how you rank the likes of OutKast, Wu tang and NWA
Even though NWA has a small catalog [Two albums (efil4*****n and Straight Outta Compton), a compilation (NWA and the Posse), and an EP (100 Miles and Runnin)] if anyone is higher than them I am gonna be mad lmao
@@eliasmartin9842i personally like wu tang more and even tho they dont have any bad albums imo, outkast has an album, that each one could be considered one of the best except maybe idlewild and southerncadilacc balhs balh, and even those u could maie good arguments for
I used to listen to Pac and feel like he wasn’t that great. this year I Been revisiting him. man. ima just say. I’ll never disrespect that young Man again. Pac is. can’t even find words. he’s truly more than I could ever explain
For me a Top 10 rappers is based on Impact, Lyrics, Flow and Versatility. (Beat selection and composition falls more in best artist) My top 10 would be: *1. Eminem* - This man went out and beyond to break music records that nobody on rap did before. Yes he has 2 albums that I don't like, but he has the best trilogy of rap albums (imo), you never seen an artist this mainstream in rap who still loves the genre and respects everything about rapping this much, with some of the best rhymes schemes I've ever heard and phonetic perfect flows that sounds like it's own instrument. *2. Nas* - Nas' mind it's out of this planet. Someone who also loves rap so much, amazing catalog (even with Nastradamus), the best debut album, with verses that touched my soul and insane influence. *3. 2Pac* - Yeah, Idk what y'all smoking. If rap had a face, it would be Pac's face. One of the most powerful voices in rap, amazing discography, iconic figure in music and the best disstrack in rap. Plus 2Pac's work ethic is unmatched, this man pumped iconic rap verses and bangers like it was nothing. *4. Biggie* - Best flow in rap, two 10/10 iconic albums in music. Insane performances, and genius with imagery and painting pictures. *5. Jay-Z* - The rapper who everyone would wish to be. Amazing albums and classics, one of the best flows ever (yes I know he used flows from certain artists but he still added his own touch), and an insane talent to say a lot with less. *6. Rakim* - The man who changed the whole genre. Classic albums that still sound great till this day, amazing song concepts, really creative writing (kinda underated imo), and a true artist who loves rap. *7. Andre 3k* - (It hurts so much not having him in top 5) The 2nd best flow ever (fight me), near-flawless catalog, insane song concepts and some of the best verses in rap are from this man. *8. Kendrick* - One of the best storytellers and concept writer. Not only being a genius with rhyme schemes and voice changes but also make it so his music hits mainstream while still maintaining substance and artistry. *9. Lil Wayne* - He influenced every rapper you hear today, the best punchliner, iconic voice, insane run of albums and mixtapes, and an icon in rap. *10. MF DOOM* - The most creative writer I've ever heard, amazing influence and impact, otherworldly rhyme schemes and iconic persona. *Honorable Mentions:* Kanye West, Ghostface Killah, Mos Def, Talib Kwali, Black Thought, Common, Raekwon, Method Man, Lupe Fiasco, KRS-ONE, Busta Rhymes, Big L, Big Pun, Lauryn Hill, Q Tip, LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap and Scarface.
@@kane_howe138 2Pac has some of the most impactful lyrics in rap. And what's genius about it is that, even tho lyrically I don't place him above Lupe Fiasco or Aesop Rock, Having the talent to make powerful lyrics that can connect with people and make millions feel your emotions it's a different type of skill. Not to mention, this man was recording and working like in 3 songs a day. The fact that he was able to constantly put out bangers after bangers and still have so much material with substance, emotion and vulnerability it's insane. Plus if we talk about impact, almost nobody it's as iconic as 2Pac in rap, and if we talk about flow, voice and performance, Pac was able to use everything in his arsenal to perfectly display his emotions in a way that I haven't seen other rapper do it like him.
I'm surprised you guys are just now doing this. Can't wait to give this a listen. You’ve done brackets, tier lists but never a formal Top 10. Great stuff
Jay Z overrated and drake be making Rnb and pop music. He is not a real MC. Everyone else you can make an argument for, but personally, I don't have Wayne
@@KnowledgeNation-vj2jkhe's not overrated they even talked about that in the vid, He's so hated on for apparently being " overrated when no one overrates him
My Top 10 Hip-Hop Artists of all Time.. 1. MF DOOM 2. Kanye West 3. André 3000 4. Nas 5. Jay-Z 6. Eminem 7. Kendrick Lamar 8. The Notorious B.I.G. 9. Black Thought 10. Ghostface Killah
Kendrick is the greatest to me because he can do super lyrical MF DOOM level technical raps like Black Friday and then poetry like Sing About Me or Complexion. Also he knows how to use his voice. He knows how to layer his voice like no other. Also the greatest hip hop performer all time (Grammys 2016)
@@ClydeCyrus lmao what????? As if doom didn’t rap “Close but no crills, toast for po' ills, post no bills Coast to coast, Joe Shmoes flows ill, go chill Not supposed to overdose, No-dose pills Off pride tikes now talk wide though scar meat Off sides like how Worf rides with Starfleet” What’s the difference between that and “It's seven figures and retainer for the case nowadays, I'm talking Hiiigher power, every other hour since Eddie Bauer Since stash boxes and lead showers, breaking the padlock And the dead coward dying a thousand deaths, entire lion Surround itself with bears, watch it nigga, you share a profit, ah! This is what they want, I'm the one This is vintage from 1990 - somethin' I'm the son of the pioneer that got you niggas on” “D-Bo, all of it one year, Mississippi to California It gets annoying, niggas wanna deploy him And bitches wanna adore him, but industry shit ain't for him Probably thinking it's for him, only one me Swallowed the key and kicking the door in, never leasing my foreign Mr. Valevictorian studied the game before them Listen to you with boredom, baby rappers, abort them” Black Friday wasn’t meant to be a concept song, it was supposed to be all over the place. You’re acting like Kendrick (one of the greatest modern writers in hip hop) was sitting there and couldnt think of anything lol and wrote filler, nah he just wrote what came to mind.
I don't get the time factor that people consider for Kendrick, Ok he is relatively new to the game when compared to Nas or MF DOOM. But put Biggie and Pac on their top 3-5 when unfortunately they also don't have the longest career... For me Time factor really don't count much..
Yup, can't use time factor but then turn around and put Biggie inside the Top 5 when he literally released less overall music than Kendrick... Either longevity matters or it doesn't for everyone, can't pick and choose.
Wayne is #1. Sold 1 mil in a week, twice.. Changed mixtape culture. Face tats/appearance. Gang influence, drug influence. Changed writing culture with similes/metaphors. Nobody touching Wayne verse for verse. Real ones will always know.. hip hop is rooted in the streets. And nobody captivated this element more than Weezy. The alien, the wizard, the mf GOAT 🐐
@@goodspeed9914 just pointing out the clear influences and direct effects he had on the genre. Part of his upbringing, part of a lot of others’ too. You know how to separate the two?
Not feeling the 2pac slander from buddy on the left but the video was entertaining. Take those 10 on your list and see how they stack up against Pac in a Verzus. Nobody prior to the 2000s didn’t consider Pac a lyricist.
He genuinely doesn't rock with 2Pac its not the first time, and because he doesn't connect with him he uses naive, ignorant statements that are easily debunked. Furthermore, he hasn't stepped foot outside the country to see 2Pac's "musical impact" is enormous. Also without 2Pac Kendrick doesn't exist. Kendrick sighted 2Pac as the reason why he showcases vulnerability in his music.
It would be interesting to do a separate top 10 video for each component that you considered. For example, skill, impact, etc. Then see how the holistic overall top 10 list pans out based on each component list.
Putting tech N9ne or Lupe fiasco or anybody above Tupac is just shows you the hatred that you have for black people. Because you know that's our choice so you want to down him
One of the best lists I've seen on the internet yet. Nas, Jay and Big deserve the spot. I would slid in Common as well. He got one of the best discographies of all time, annihilated Ice Cube, Got love anthems, Can freestyle effortlessly, Great Storytelling, 1st rapper in Hip Hop to win a Grammy, Emmy and Oscar and also known as Chi-Town Nas and also got one of the best voices in Hip Hop. Common is in my top 5 though. Would like to see a top 20 list with Lupe, AZ, Kool G Rap, Scarface, Pharoahe.
It's truly beautiful to be part on a deep dive into this topic. Here is my personal top 10 that has formed over the past 23 years since I started listening to rap music, or better to say music in general. Here we go: 2Pac Nas Eminem Masta Ace Jay-Z Guru André 3000 Kendrick Lamar Kanye West DMX
I'd put Thought at 1 personally, Nas 2nd. Both were amazing in the 90s and have revitalised their careers in the 2020s. I find it so insane that both have been able to do that decades into their careers.
Ant had a better list. I don't understand how Luca can argue for Kanye on his list then count out 2Pac for technical ability. 2Pac is undeniably the most influential and referenced rapper of all time, some of the best content matter, some of the best songwriting, dude can ride a beat, one of the best flows, some of the deepest songs (So Many Tears, Death Around the Corner etc.), probably the most emotive rapper, a fantastic 3 album run, arguably the best double album in rap, diverse song types (party songs, diss songs, gangsta songs, conscious songs, emotionally moving songs etc.), finally he even has the sales. He's the #8 best selling rapper ever and is still doing more streams than rappers operating today. 2Pac is arguably the GOAT.
Pac is most iconic but no u can't tell his most influential. And I can't stand putting pac over Kendrick and Black thought. But both lists are very similar to each other and they're predictable.
This is a great video. Not one explanation was similar to the other, on either side. Each argument was clearly thought out and distinct from the next. You can tell that you two are very knowledgeable in the rap space.
Here’s my list: 1. Jay-Z 2. 2Pac 3. Lil Wayne 4. Biggie 5. Eminem 6. Nas 7. Andre 3000 8. Rakim 9. Kendrick 10. Kanye Excellent video guys 💯. Lu not having Wayne or Pac is a MAJOR L though 😂
@@HistoricutuberWell that’s the thing, it’s not just about influence. For me 2Pac the most iconic rapper of all time, and if we’re taking about influence he’s definitely number 1. But in technical ability Nas, Biggie, Kendrick, MF DOOM etc are better
@@hecatrice2064 Stop this cap. 2pac had consistent and good rhymes theoughout his entire discogrphy. Certainly a far better lyricist then jay z and jayz is great no doubt
PAC not being top 10 is always baffling to me and makes me look at folks sideways. The lyricism knock is a very narrow viewing of what lyricism is and I find it hilarious who they let slide with that ( Kanye, Wayne bad era). Also even if that’s the case all other boxes PAC has in spades. Ultimately everyone list is there list. Love the hip hop debates at the end of the day.
He has Kanye at number 10 who from what we know from interviews doesn’t write his raps but doesn’t have Pac(who writes his raps)in the top 10 because he “lacks” lyrically is crazy to me. In general not everyone who has technical skills on the mic is always a better musical artist or even a overall lyricist tbh. Pac arguably has the greatest three album run in rap history. He is arguably the most quoted rapper, he is very diverse in subject matter and lyrics, he arguably has more classic hits then every artist on this list except for Kanye probably.
10.) Kanye West (should be top 5, doesn’t write all his raps) 9.) Andre3K 8.) Big L (might be a personal bias) 7.) Lil’ Wayne 6.) Nas 5.) Biggie 4.) Eminem 3.) Pac 2.) Kendrick 1.) JayZ
Barely any one was writing raps like 2Pac with that level of vulnerability. He purposely didn’t want to be the over lyrical because he knew the message could be felt how it was, but he could spit when he wanted, not to mention he has one of the most iconic deliveries, he could rap soft and thoughtful and then at rapid force when he wanted. “They say pussy and paper is poetry, power and pistols” That’s just the opening line
"Some dudes use big words to make their similies curve but my simplest shit be more pivotal." - Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick cited 2Pac also as the reason he feels comfortable being vulnerable in his music.
My top 10: 10. Andre 3k - The face of the greatest duo of all time 9. Rakim - Grandfather of Rap 8. MF Doom - King of the underground 7. Kendrick Lamar - Modern Legend 6. Kanye West - Biggest influencer 5. Tupac - most energy and has the anthems 4. Biggie - Best flow and Cadance 3. Eminem - Best 3 album run of all time and word poet 2. Nas - Created Illmatic. 1. Jay Z - Billion-dollar rapper, greatest legacy of all time
I agree with Luca about the 2pac take. He as an amazing discography but he's not top 10 best lyricist or rapping abilities but I love his passion for the game, you can almost hear it when it raps
Wrapping abilities more than lyrics you guys are wrong about that. And it was an artistic choice he did that for clarity he wanted people to feel what he's saying. So he beats everybody else and saying real poetic things and he connects with the artists and listeners more by speaking in regular understandable terms. That's rap that's not rap isn't just lyricism
One thing I'd like to see included more in these convos is live performances. I know it's hard because some rappers we will never get the chance to see, but seeing Black Thought live at a jazzfest just opened my eyes to what a hip hop concert could be.
Can you please do a breakdown on the different sub genres of rap? It would be nice to get some examples of artists in each field and some basic definitions to relate better to some of the concepts described in the videos
Been waiting for this video for the longest time! Everyone has their own ways of defending their own list and I believe you guys did a good job in yours! All the ones mentioned(including honorable mentions) are definitely in most people’s list. Let’s all learn to appreciate everyone’s opinions and be civil. Personally I would have Em at one.
kendrick released the greatest hip hop album of all time in 2015, and debatably the greatest album of all time. He is the GOAT and there's no doubt. Ppl just hesitant to say it cause he doesn't have one foot in the grave. I say this and he's not even my favourite rapper.
Everybody gotta have Tupac on their top ten? I wasn't hip with a dude who was screaming thug life and promoting peace on one song , then black crime on another 😭 "he was spitting real shit!" Look where it got him. His ego got him killed. Anything anybody says is just spoken from feelings. And not facts
@@phonymex3340they all do the same s*** and talk about the same thing you can't make a list without people talking about black crime or all this other s*** him being versatile is a plus he tried to do things that these are other artists didn't even try to tackle.. you just looking at things wrong because you're an idiot
1. Nas 2. Andre 3K 3. Notorious B.I.G 4. Jay-Z 5. MF DOOM 6. Kendrick Lamar 7. Eminem 8. Black Thought 9. Rakim 10. Q-Tip while the number one is set in stone for me, numbers 2-4 can be switched around in any order depending on the day. Its really damn close. I do feel like Kanye is the greatest hiphop artist of all time, but as a rapper he is not top 10 for me. HM: Lupe Fiasco 2Pac Ghostface Killah Big Boi
1. Nas 2. 2Pac 3. Ghostface Killah (switchable with 2 spot) 4. MF DOOM 5. Black Thought 6. Lupe Fiasco 7. Kendrick Lamar 8. billy woods 9. Rakim 10. Aesop Rock Overall for me taking a bunch of different things into account.
my top 10 gotta be, 2pac DMX krs one rakim Nas twista Kanye west kendrick lamar Ludacris Redman keep in mind this is just my personal list, In my opinion there is no best because everyone's goat comes from their own personal love for certain artists, I love all of hip hop but like everyone else I have my own favs 😁
1. Nas 2. Jay-Z 3. Biggie 4. André 3000 5. Black Thought 6. MF DOOM 7. Kendrick Lamar 8. Eminem 9. 2Pac 10. Kanye West I have changed this list because I think my list was a bit misplaced
NO WRONG!!!!! Here is the true Top 10: 1.Nas 2. 2Pac 3. Biggie 4. Andre 3000 5. Knedrick Lamar 6. Eminem 7. Lil Wayne 8. Black Thought 9. Rakim 10. Jay-Z (Overatted+Stole Biggie Lyrics)
@@charlieyork5439 this was an old list. my new list is completely different now. Here is my new list: 1. Nas 2. Biggie Smalls 3. MF DOOM 4. Eminem 5. Tupac Shakur 6. Lil Wayne 7. Jay-Z 8. Kendrick Lamar 9. Black Thought 10. Rakim
My new list 1. Nas 2. Jay-Z 3. Biggie 4. André 3000 5. 2Pac 6. Kendrick Lamar 7. Black Thought 8. Eminem 9. Rakim 10. Ye I know it’s near identical to Lu’s list but I genuinely think these are the greatest of all time.
my favorite rapper of all time is eminem, but without a doubt, no question, objectively, the best rapper of all time is Nas. I can't even say its close, Illmatic is the best rap album of all time, and one of the greatest albums ever in general. His music hasn't dipped in quality whatsoever imo, 30 years in the game and still going strong.
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Putting Lil Xan at number 1 was definitely a brave decision
The right decision*
@@NFRPodcastbruh😂😊
@@NFRPodcastMe when I lie
Where are these Fantano viewers come from?
@@moc-king-bird His basement. Why do you ask?
Not surprised to see Ice Spice as Ant's number 1.
Kanye may not crack the Top 10 as a pure Rapper, but he’s the GOAT Artist.
Putting his controversies & antics aside - Kanye’s talent, career, influence, and legacy is unrivaled. He has the greatest discography rap has ever seen and he’s the most innovative and influential Artist of the modern era, having an unfathomable influence on multiple generations of countless Artists.
As an Artist, Musician, Producer, Curator, & Performer - Kanye is THE GOAT. Someone THIS talented may never be seen again.
I agree. But this is a rapper list. so i didnt quite understand Ye being in both top 10s. Its their opinion i guess...cool video regardless.
@@btorres5x Nah ye is crazy as a rapper. tracks like no more parties in LA, roses, and New Day speak for themselves
agree, greatest hiphop artist
this isnt a lyracist list@@btorres5x
Ye > MJ @@Zaay_
I love this duo. Charisma and delivery is on point
Fake
@@jordielguay2231 its entertainment. the internet has you believe that everything gotta be sincere
@@whatistau u said lil xan top 1 and change it fake
@@jordielguay2231 ok xd
400th like btw respond or gay
Surprising to see Tom MacDonald take the #1 spot, but I guess it’s acceptable.
shame they put him at 1 and put lil xan at 2. should be reversed imo
@@nazzy260 NAV and NF were both snubbed though.
I was also surprised to see Nick cannon at number 5, he seems more like a 6 or 7
Jack Harlow not top 3 crazy to me
@@christiangonzalez6338 Jackman > Illmatic in terms of beats, effort, and lyricism 🤷🏽♂️
It’s good to see Nav finally get the credit that he deserves.
He top 50
@@oscarcastanos2929 when you only know 50 rappers
Thank god it is Nas and NOT NAV.
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@@Austin-nx4yni love nav he is as good as nas what you talking bout
Something you have to consider with Pac‘ is that his career only lasted 5 years. His debut album released in 91‘ and he died in 96‘. Everything 2Pac ever put out, he produced in only 5 years, during which he had to sit out a prison sentence. So I think just for the sheer amount of quality music he released, the impact that he had and the popularity he reached in such a short time, you have to include 2Pac in a Top 10.
Agreed, not the first spot but he definitely deserves a spot
Not including Tupac in the top is criminal
I love to visit an alternate universe where he survived and see what kind of bangers he released and who he collabed with
"you have to include a dude who pretended to be thug and dissed people for no reason, you HAVE to" 💀💀💀 no tf I don't 😂
@@phonymex3340L take
Yeah the number 1 is undeniable. Pure talent, skill, delivery, lyricism, discography, you name it
Smokepurpp is a different breed
No, He si #2. #1 is Submarine Man.
Seeing Black Thought on Lu's list is just awesome. That guy might be the best rapper ever from a technical and lyrical standpoint. His pen game is INSANE. Also love the 3 Stacks love because despite no solo albums, he's put together an all-time career with his work in OutKast and all of his legendary features that steal everyone's songs.
Should be on everyones list
It just felt weird to have him above DOOM. I agree that Thought deserves a mention but above DOOM is pretty crazy to me…
@@peamut547
How?
@@peamut547In terms of pure rapping ability and lyricism Black Thought is better than DOOM, but as an overall artist considering entire discography it goes to DOOM
3k is the best rapper of all time period. imo
Holy shit this what we been wanted for years
Its time!!!!
I’m so happy to see Flo Rida as # 1. He’s so severely underrated is criminal. Thank you guys !
Seeing Nas getting love warms my heart. Great lists guys.
Exactly. Especially as before 2020s it was somewhat rare online to see nas getting so much love
@@t-4579Well he’s still dropping heat so it’s only fair.
Nas , Pac , Rakim
@@vic9303 true but even if he didnt he still shoudve receivedthe love before
@@Jc-ql8dp2pac is overrated if we’re talking about influence I’ll agree he’s number 1 easily but he just doesn’t have the skill set to be the Goat rapper
“This is why Ice Spice is the greatest rapper of all time!” -Ant probably
😂😂
You are so delusional Ice Spice She isn't a Good Rapper she can't Rap at all BiA she is a way better Rapper than her No Wonder Everybody in this Generation They are so lost especially when it comes to down to music
@@Blackwoman12345brother, it s a joke
@@piyushmatta2363 with all due Respect I'am A Grown woman okay stop Addressing me As Bro Okay Look at my name
@@Blackwoman12345it’s a joke, nice try tho
I gotta agree with y’all’s number 1 choice, Nav truly is the goat 🔥
We got that one right!!
Nas is that guy I can't be mad if anyone put him in their number one spot even though I'm a Pac fan
@johnrockyryan NO NAV. Not Nas.
@@johnrockyryanBeing a Pac fan means nothing for having Nas as the true goat
Ghostface Killah for me has to be a top 10 rapper ever.
Has two undeniable classics of his own in Ironman and Supreme Clientele, with some other albums you could consider, like Fish Scale, Apollo Kids or even 12 reasons to die or the Pretty Toney Album.
He is also a big part of 3 classic albums - 36 Chambers, OB4CL, and Wu Tang Forever.
Elite storyteller and lyricist, one of the best flows, and so fly with his rhymes, classic songs and verses, and also a great longevity.
I always go back n forth between Ghostface, Black Thought, & Rakim for my 10 slot
Three undeniable classic. I would put Fishscale in that classic category with Supreme Clientele an Ironman. And he has a bunch of great albums with zero bad Hip Hop albums
And some of the greatest beats ive ever heard are on supreme clientelle and Ironman
Ghostface is easily in the top 5-10. I don't get how he doesn't make these lists.
Ghostface is incredible bro
shout out to these guys for putting Pitbull at #1, rlly deserved🔥🔥🔥🔥
Not having 2Pac on your top 10 rappers list is actually insane. The best west coast rapper
Kendrick’s ten times better
@@vlop6411 2pac teached Kendrick. Kendrick not even close. Even though he is great, no doubt.
exactly what im saying his tripping😵💫
Not even close
Tired of seeing Tupac Shmeat Riders commenting since his death 🤦🤦🤦 overrated.
IMO Ghostface Killah is in my top 10. He’s got an amazing solo discog, amazing features, amazing group work with multiple classics under his belt spanning 15 years (36 Chambers-Fishscale). He’s got a great rapping voice, amazing lyrics, flow, etc. he’s definitely top 10, possibly top 5 imo
Nah, i can't put no rapper inside a Top 10 that's been rehashing the same style his entire career. Like, if you listen to Only Built 4 Cuban Linx and you listen to 36 seasons he's rapping the same way, same flows, same type of bars, etc... Those albums are literally 20 years apart, lol. The only thing that changed is he has different producers supplying the beats now... That's it. And even still he doesn't really want to hop on something different to kind of pour some fresh gas into the tank... He keeps picking the boom bappy type shit.
@@zennihilator3724I totally understand, that’s maybe why Ghostface doesn’t get much mention because he didn’t have much growth after Supreme Clientele I’d say. I still think he’s a top tier mc and I guess it just comes down to personal preference because I’m a huge Wu-tang fan. Top 5 may have been an overstatement tbf
@@bigmibeatz Indeed, and not just Ghost, i think a lot of 'rap greats' from the 90s suffer from the same thing. A lot of them made it big early on in their career and then kept repackaging that formula since it worked for them at the start... but like all things in life, you can't keep doing the same thing and expect people not to find you boring after a while when the novelty starts to wear off and you become predictable as an artist, which is never a good thing...
The thing is when we talk about the best rappers ever... A lot of them motherfckers can spit cold 16's all day... That's why they're greats... So then outside of pure personal preferance which is entirely subjective, we need some criteria to seperate the cream from the crop... And a couple of key factors i look at are how well can you incorporate your ability to rap and use that to make good, memorable music that's enjoyable to listen to... Like a good example of what i'm talking about is Logic... Logic can rap his ass off but very few people care about the albums he releases because he doesn't know how to make song out of rapping... It's like most his songs are freestyles he put down on paper and re-fined a little and that's it.
Another thing is how versatile you are. Like, if you're in the NBA... It's great that you can shoot 45% from three, but if that's all you do on a basketball court is spot up shoot then i can't take you seriously as one of the best players in the league... Great players are great because they mastered many different styles and techniques and know how to switch it up depending on the context of their team and the game to still produce at a high level. I feel like a lot of these rappers people are naming as all-time great, if you put them on a non-traditional beat, they'd sound completely out of place...
And then finally what's your discography looking like. A lot of cats can produce one legendary album and then rehash that style 5 times, but how many can produce multiple S-tier albums, reinvent themselves artistically etc. I'm talking about guys like Outkast, Kanye, Kendrick to an extent... Like, you don't even have to reinvent the wheel, just put out something that's 40 minutes long and has no skips...
My favorite rappers is probably Freddie Gibbs right now, and i don't think he reinvented the wheel or anything in the rap genre (though he does rap on a large pallette of different production), but he put out like 10 projects in the last 15 years and the amount of weak songs total on those projects is probably 5%??? Like out of every 100 songs he releases like 5 maybe are mid filler type shits... The rest you can literally play through multiple times and never gets old. How many cats can say that? Come on mane...
@@zennihilator3724do you really care so much about it if it’s one of the best styles the rap world has ever presences? And no, his style did evolve into being something more of a hypeman in supreme clientele and increasing that tenfold into fishscale. He doesn’t sound like his 90s style and if he’s done so who am I to care? He’s incredible on the mic
How did you like him on the KDOT album
Take a drink everytime anthony says "not only that"
And when Lu says "apart from that"
He said this the SECOND I read this comment
You guys should definitely do a top 10 list of your favourite hip hop groups of all time. Would be interesting to see how you rank the likes of OutKast, Wu tang and NWA
Even though NWA has a small catalog [Two albums (efil4*****n and Straight Outta Compton), a compilation (NWA and the Posse), and an EP (100 Miles and Runnin)] if anyone is higher than them I am gonna be mad lmao
@@tacocat7822 Really? Outkast is 100% the best hiphop group of all time imo.
There’s gotta be Clipse in there they’re so underrated for what they did I feel
@@eliasmartin9842i personally like wu tang more and even tho they dont have any bad albums imo, outkast has an album, that each one could be considered one of the best except maybe idlewild and southerncadilacc balhs balh, and even those u could maie good arguments
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I used to listen to Pac and feel like he wasn’t that great. this year I Been revisiting him. man. ima just say. I’ll never disrespect that young Man again. Pac is. can’t even find words. he’s truly more than I could ever explain
Damn not that deep 😭 he was screaming thug life every chance he got. Had a huge ego for someone that was a dancer first 💀
@@phonymex3340He was realest rapper in history. Better than your favorite rapper forsure 💯 hatin ass dude 😅
No one will ever top Nas' career as a rapper
Tupac clears 💯
@@arth9197 No he does not. Not even close.
@@arth9197no he isn’t close and I love pac
@@arth9197pac ain't top 10
@@loganlund6801 yea you're a hater fr. Try and name 10 better than Pac!? U can't 😅
Number 1 was absolutely the right choice, he is by far and away the greatest to ever do it. It ain't hard to tell.
lmao
Idk about that
Only because Biggie died so young. Imagine 30 years of him, Nas wouldn't be able to hold a candle.
@@PrincipalSkinner3190Yet when they were competing in the 90s and 0s nas just had better and more consistent albums 🤷♂️
@@dimiyh Biggie only released one album when he was alive, what u talkin about lol. He also died before 2000 🤣
These guys delivery is amazing. I love you can feel the passion in every single word said in this podcast.
Agree
Really happy to see Comethazine battling it out for the number 2 spot and getting his well deserved props 😊
😂
I had to see a shrink after listening to that junk
For me a Top 10 rappers is based on Impact, Lyrics, Flow and Versatility. (Beat selection and composition falls more in best artist) My top 10 would be:
*1. Eminem* - This man went out and beyond to break music records that nobody on rap did before. Yes he has 2 albums that I don't like, but he has the best trilogy of rap albums (imo), you never seen an artist this mainstream in rap who still loves the genre and respects everything about rapping this much, with some of the best rhymes schemes I've ever heard and phonetic perfect flows that sounds like it's own instrument.
*2. Nas* - Nas' mind it's out of this planet. Someone who also loves rap so much, amazing catalog (even with Nastradamus), the best debut album, with verses that touched my soul and insane influence.
*3. 2Pac* - Yeah, Idk what y'all smoking. If rap had a face, it would be Pac's face. One of the most powerful voices in rap, amazing discography, iconic figure in music and the best disstrack in rap. Plus 2Pac's work ethic is unmatched, this man pumped iconic rap verses and bangers like it was nothing.
*4. Biggie* - Best flow in rap, two 10/10 iconic albums in music. Insane performances, and genius with imagery and painting pictures.
*5. Jay-Z* - The rapper who everyone would wish to be. Amazing albums and classics, one of the best flows ever (yes I know he used flows from certain artists but he still added his own touch), and an insane talent to say a lot with less.
*6. Rakim* - The man who changed the whole genre. Classic albums that still sound great till this day, amazing song concepts, really creative writing (kinda underated imo), and a true artist who loves rap.
*7. Andre 3k* - (It hurts so much not having him in top 5) The 2nd best flow ever (fight me), near-flawless catalog, insane song concepts and some of the best verses in rap are from this man.
*8. Kendrick* - One of the best storytellers and concept writer. Not only being a genius with rhyme schemes and voice changes but also make it so his music hits mainstream while still maintaining substance and artistry.
*9. Lil Wayne* - He influenced every rapper you hear today, the best punchliner, iconic voice, insane run of albums and mixtapes, and an icon in rap.
*10. MF DOOM* - The most creative writer I've ever heard, amazing influence and impact, otherworldly rhyme schemes and iconic persona.
*Honorable Mentions:* Kanye West, Ghostface Killah, Mos Def, Talib Kwali, Black Thought, Common, Raekwon, Method Man, Lupe Fiasco, KRS-ONE, Busta Rhymes, Big L, Big Pun, Lauryn Hill, Q Tip, LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap and Scarface.
How you gonna say lyricism is a main factor then have 2pac in your list? In terms of lyricism he isn’t even a top 15 rapper
@@kane_howe138 2Pac has some of the most impactful lyrics in rap. And what's genius about it is that, even tho lyrically I don't place him above Lupe Fiasco or Aesop Rock, Having the talent to make powerful lyrics that can connect with people and make millions feel your emotions it's a different type of skill.
Not to mention, this man was recording and working like in 3 songs a day. The fact that he was able to constantly put out bangers after bangers and still have so much material with substance, emotion and vulnerability it's insane.
Plus if we talk about impact, almost nobody it's as iconic as 2Pac in rap, and if we talk about flow, voice and performance, Pac was able to use everything in his arsenal to perfectly display his emotions in a way that I haven't seen other rapper do it like him.
The best list i ever seen. I have same TOP5
@@SpiderJAAMyou could say all that abt kanye
@@07W Kanye would be "best hip hop artist" to me, people remember Kanye's production and album creation more than his rapping.
Not having 2pac in the top 10 is insane to me ngl
I'm surprised you guys are just now doing this. Can't wait to give this a listen. You’ve done brackets, tier lists but never a formal Top 10. Great stuff
They did a formal top 10 hip hop albums
Pac wasn't lyrical, he was poetic. He gave all of his songs a certain atmosphere.
He had some of the most dense rhyme schemes of his era
Luca not even having Pac top 10 is insane. He has zero credibility at this point.
@@thsu8its his list bro not everybody dick rides pac
@@thsu8it really isnt that insane
@@thsu8 yeah that was crazy but not everyone feels Tupac like you, me or Anthony you know but still that was fucking crazy
if tom mcdonald isn’t top 3 i’m unsubscribing
Chill hes #1 on both our lists
Great lists and great video! Its good to see guys like Black Thought, Rakim, and Andre get that recognition
That big kid in the white, his list was ass. Good thing it's his own opinion, cause got DAMN! 😭🚮
Drake, Pac, Wayne, Hov, BIG, Nas, Andre 3000, DMX, Snoop Dogg & Eminem !!!! Top 10 all time Hip Hop contributed guys
Jay Z overrated and drake be making Rnb and pop music. He is not a real MC. Everyone else you can make an argument for, but personally, I don't have Wayne
You just discover "rap" music this morning and listen to a generic rap playlist or sum 😭😭😭😭
@@KnowledgeNation-vj2jkhe's not overrated they even talked about that in the vid, He's so hated on for apparently being " overrated when no one overrates him
FANTASTIC VIDEO❤ Keep up the grind nfr! You guys are gonna become a iconic music podcast in the future💯
The only thing we all agree is the fact that Emine owns the best 3 run album of all time
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My Top 10 Hip-Hop Artists of all Time..
1. MF DOOM
2. Kanye West
3. André 3000
4. Nas
5. Jay-Z
6. Eminem
7. Kendrick Lamar
8. The Notorious B.I.G.
9. Black Thought
10. Ghostface Killah
Kendrick is the greatest to me because he can do super lyrical MF DOOM level technical raps like Black Friday and then poetry like Sing About Me or Complexion. Also he knows how to use his voice. He knows how to layer his voice like no other. Also the greatest hip hop performer all time (Grammys 2016)
he’s so diverse and unique with all of his work. one of the best artists to grace modern music
@@yungshmoney definitely bro, he’s a true artist in every sense of the word. He had a vision from day one.
Black Friday is nowhere DOOM level, most of that verse is filler
@@ClydeCyrus lmao what????? As if doom didn’t rap “Close but no crills, toast for po' ills, post no bills
Coast to coast, Joe Shmoes flows ill, go chill
Not supposed to overdose, No-dose pills
Off pride tikes now talk wide though scar meat
Off sides like how Worf rides with Starfleet”
What’s the difference between that and
“It's seven figures and retainer for the case nowadays, I'm talking
Hiiigher power, every other hour since Eddie Bauer
Since stash boxes and lead showers, breaking the padlock
And the dead coward dying a thousand deaths, entire lion
Surround itself with bears, watch it nigga, you share a profit, ah!
This is what they want, I'm the one
This is vintage from 1990 - somethin'
I'm the son of the pioneer that got you niggas on”
“D-Bo, all of it one year, Mississippi to California
It gets annoying, niggas wanna deploy him
And bitches wanna adore him, but industry shit ain't for him
Probably thinking it's for him, only one me
Swallowed the key and kicking the door in, never leasing my foreign
Mr. Valevictorian studied the game before them
Listen to you with boredom, baby rappers, abort them”
Black Friday wasn’t meant to be a concept song, it was supposed to be all over the place. You’re acting like Kendrick (one of the greatest modern writers in hip hop) was sitting there and couldnt think of anything lol and wrote filler, nah he just wrote what came to mind.
@@ClydeCyrusong that verse is filler he was flowing crazy but you can’t name any insane bars on that joint
I don't get the time factor that people consider for Kendrick, Ok he is relatively new to the game when compared to Nas or MF DOOM. But put Biggie and Pac on their top 3-5 when unfortunately they also don't have the longest career... For me Time factor really don't count much..
Yup, can't use time factor but then turn around and put Biggie inside the Top 5 when he literally released less overall music than Kendrick... Either longevity matters or it doesn't for everyone, can't pick and choose.
Wayne is #1. Sold 1 mil in a week, twice.. Changed mixtape culture. Face tats/appearance. Gang influence, drug influence. Changed writing culture with similes/metaphors. Nobody touching Wayne verse for verse. Real ones will always know.. hip hop is rooted in the streets. And nobody captivated this element more than Weezy. The alien, the wizard, the mf GOAT 🐐
Gang and drug influences are things you cherish in rap?
@@goodspeed9914hhaha facts
@@goodspeed9914 just pointing out the clear influences and direct effects he had on the genre. Part of his upbringing, part of a lot of others’ too. You know how to separate the two?
Not feeling the 2pac slander from buddy on the left but the video was entertaining.
Take those 10 on your list and see how they stack up against Pac in a Verzus. Nobody prior to the 2000s didn’t consider Pac a lyricist.
He genuinely doesn't rock with 2Pac its not the first time, and because he doesn't connect with him he uses naive, ignorant statements that are easily debunked. Furthermore, he hasn't stepped foot outside the country to see 2Pac's "musical impact" is enormous. Also without 2Pac Kendrick doesn't exist. Kendrick sighted 2Pac as the reason why he showcases vulnerability in his music.
It would be interesting to do a separate top 10 video for each component that you considered. For example, skill, impact, etc. Then see how the holistic overall top 10 list pans out based on each component list.
fire idea
Big W for Ant having Wayne in the top 10 🤝
Should be top 3
Overrated
@@phonymex3340underrated**
My favorites:
1. Eminem
2. Tech N9ne
3. Kendrick Lamar
4. Lupe Fiasco
5. Jadakiss
Honorable mentions: Lil Wayne, Beastie Boys, Tupac, Nas, Andre 3000, Rakim, Scarface
Very respectable🫡 Haven’t heard much Jada or Lue though
@@Lyricallistener-ws6cyCheck Lupe out I wish we had Em x Lupe collab would be fire for sure. I would recommend you Prisoner 1 & 2 by him
@@pozeraczstivow6348 thx he’s definitely on my list of artists to listen to
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Putting tech N9ne or Lupe fiasco or anybody above Tupac is just shows you the hatred that you have for black people. Because you know that's our choice so you want to down him
Would love to see a top 10 greatest producers list in the near future. Cheers from Saskatchewan much love my Canadian brethren!
I loved Lu's breakdown of Rakim
One of the best lists I've seen on the internet yet. Nas, Jay and Big deserve the spot. I would slid in Common as well. He got one of the best discographies of all time, annihilated Ice Cube, Got love anthems, Can freestyle effortlessly, Great Storytelling, 1st rapper in Hip Hop to win a Grammy, Emmy and Oscar and also known as Chi-Town Nas and also got one of the best voices in Hip Hop. Common is in my top 5 though. Would like to see a top 20 list with Lupe, AZ, Kool G Rap, Scarface, Pharoahe.
Common is really good!
I would also want to MOSt DEFinantely see a top 20 list
Common is not no damn top 10 rapper
@@worlddomination2888 Then you got to listen to some good music buddy.
It's truly beautiful to be part on a deep dive into this topic.
Here is my personal top 10 that has formed over the past 23 years since I started listening to rap music, or better to say music in general.
Here we go:
2Pac
Nas
Eminem
Masta Ace
Jay-Z
Guru
André 3000
Kendrick Lamar
Kanye West
DMX
For me, No. 1 will always be a three-way tie between Ghostface, DOOM and Nas.
Tupac should be 1 in my opinion everything he did for the culture and how revolutionary he was as well,
Nas has been the clear goat for over a decade now. He's lapping the competition at this point
Let’s run up that top 50 list boys
Carti at number 1 is completely valid. Subbed
Do a top 10 hip hop producers of all time next
I'd put Thought at 1 personally, Nas 2nd. Both were amazing in the 90s and have revitalised their careers in the 2020s. I find it so insane that both have been able to do that decades into their careers.
tbh I’ve never been that big of a Logic fan but I will give my props to Lu for his hot take on him cracking the top three
Ant had a better list. I don't understand how Luca can argue for Kanye on his list then count out 2Pac for technical ability.
2Pac is undeniably the most influential and referenced rapper of all time, some of the best content matter, some of the best songwriting, dude can ride a beat, one of the best flows, some of the deepest songs (So Many Tears, Death Around the Corner etc.), probably the most emotive rapper, a fantastic 3 album run, arguably the best double album in rap, diverse song types (party songs, diss songs, gangsta songs, conscious songs, emotionally moving songs etc.), finally he even has the sales. He's the #8 best selling rapper ever and is still doing more streams than rappers operating today. 2Pac is arguably the GOAT.
Pac is most iconic but no u can't tell his most influential. And I can't stand putting pac over Kendrick and Black thought.
But both lists are very similar to each other and they're predictable.
@@mahkamsaeedu sound stupid asf pac Is the most influential and greatest rapper of all time
Wow ant calling Nas mid was unexpected
This is a great video. Not one explanation was similar to the other, on either side. Each argument was clearly thought out and distinct from the next. You can tell that you two are very knowledgeable in the rap space.
Good list, my list gotta be
Kendrick Lamar
Nas
Andre 300k
Eminem
Biggie
2 Pac
Jay-Z
Lil Wayne
Black Thought
Jadakiss
One sentence describes Nas the best: Pac was like Jesus, Nas wrote the bible
Cole world
Here’s my list:
1. Jay-Z
2. 2Pac
3. Lil Wayne
4. Biggie
5. Eminem
6. Nas
7. Andre 3000
8. Rakim
9. Kendrick
10. Kanye
Excellent video guys 💯. Lu not having Wayne or Pac is a MAJOR L though 😂
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Nas at 6 is a joke made by a joker
not having 2pac is a crime against humanity lol
Explain kid
@@phonymex3340 I dont have to explain. Im over 30. I know Pacs influence
@@HistoricutuberWell that’s the thing, it’s not just about influence. For me 2Pac the most iconic rapper of all time, and if we’re taking about influence he’s definitely number 1.
But in technical ability Nas, Biggie, Kendrick, MF DOOM etc are better
@@hecatrice2064
Stop this cap. 2pac had consistent and good rhymes theoughout his entire discogrphy. Certainly a far better lyricist then jay z and jayz is great no doubt
He knows that blacks Love Tupac so he's got a kind of down our goat
PAC not being top 10 is always baffling to me and makes me look at folks sideways. The lyricism knock is a very narrow viewing of what lyricism is and I find it hilarious who they let slide with that ( Kanye, Wayne bad era).
Also even if that’s the case all other boxes PAC has in spades.
Ultimately everyone list is there list. Love the hip hop debates at the end of the day.
2Pac is overrated
PAC is the most overrated artist of all time. You guys are like xxxtentacion and juice world fans but 30 years older 😂
@@47thChromosome lmfao I’m Juice and XXX age not PAC’s age group. This is a silly lazy comp.
He has Kanye at number 10 who from what we know from interviews doesn’t write his raps but doesn’t have Pac(who writes his raps)in the top 10 because he “lacks” lyrically is crazy to me.
In general not everyone who has technical skills on the mic is always a better musical artist or even a overall lyricist tbh. Pac arguably has the greatest three album run in rap history. He is arguably the most quoted rapper, he is very diverse in subject matter and lyrics, he arguably has more classic hits then every artist on this list except for Kanye probably.
41:19
Ant on Andre 3000: “Catalog speaks for itself”
The catalog:
😂😂😂
10.) Kanye West (should be top 5, doesn’t write all his raps)
9.) Andre3K
8.) Big L (might be a personal bias)
7.) Lil’ Wayne
6.) Nas
5.) Biggie
4.) Eminem
3.) Pac
2.) Kendrick
1.) JayZ
Perfect list ngl
Great video boys💪🏻 Now y’all should do a top 10 favorite rappers video!
Yo didn’t expect the list to go like this, made me appreciate you guys more fr
Barely any one was writing raps like 2Pac with that level of vulnerability. He purposely didn’t want to be the over lyrical because he knew the message could be felt how it was, but he could spit when he wanted, not to mention he has one of the most iconic deliveries, he could rap soft and thoughtful and then at rapid force when he wanted.
“They say pussy and paper is poetry, power and pistols”
That’s just the opening line
"Some dudes use big words to make their similies curve but my simplest shit be more pivotal." - Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick cited 2Pac also as the reason he feels comfortable being vulnerable in his music.
@@koolkai4299 yes🔥 I was just listening to that song a day ago. That’s a great line. Definitely, 2Pac inspired people to be more honest.
Kid buu at 7 is insane
My top 10
1 Eminem
2 MF DOOM
3 Andre 3k
4 2pac
5 Tech N9ne
6 Big L
7 Biggie
8 Nas
9 Cole
10 JID
Yes, I wanna see your guys’ top 50 🔥
My top 10:
10. Andre 3k - The face of the greatest duo of all time
9. Rakim - Grandfather of Rap
8. MF Doom - King of the underground
7. Kendrick Lamar - Modern Legend
6. Kanye West - Biggest influencer
5. Tupac - most energy and has the anthems
4. Biggie - Best flow and Cadance
3. Eminem - Best 3 album run of all time and word poet
2. Nas - Created Illmatic.
1. Jay Z - Billion-dollar rapper, greatest legacy of all time
@astrodrell007 hov has been talked abt since the 2000s as a top 5 rapper
Yo Nas did way more than that and he is number one
I agree with Luca about the 2pac take. He as an amazing discography but he's not top 10 best lyricist or rapping abilities but I love his passion for the game, you can almost hear it when it raps
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Nah he's a hypocrite. Kanye doesn't even write his own bars yet luc still puts him in his top ten yet leaves Pac off? That's complete bs
Wrapping abilities more than lyrics you guys are wrong about that. And it was an artistic choice he did that for clarity he wanted people to feel what he's saying. So he beats everybody else and saying real poetic things and he connects with the artists and listeners more by speaking in regular understandable terms. That's rap that's not rap isn't just lyricism
Would love to see a top 50 list from you guys
they did.
One thing I'd like to see included more in these convos is live performances. I know it's hard because some rappers we will never get the chance to see, but seeing Black Thought live at a jazzfest just opened my eyes to what a hip hop concert could be.
Man Ice cube, Rakim, and KRS-One felt like they should be locks for this kind of list although its tough to choose lol Great video as always.
Having Drake for every spot in the top 10 is a bit odd
1. Kendrick Lamar
2. 2pac
3. Nas
4. Jay-Z
5. The Notorious B.I.G.
6. Eminem
7. Ice Cube
8. Lil Wayne
9. André 3000
10. MF Doom
😂😂😂 Kendrick Lamar being at highest retarded
Couldn’t agree more with Nas
But not to have Lupe even as honorable mention is craazy
Can you please do a breakdown on the different sub genres of rap? It would be nice to get some examples of artists in each field and some basic definitions to relate better to some of the concepts described in the videos
Been waiting for this video for the longest time! Everyone has their own ways of defending their own list and I believe you guys did a good job in yours! All the ones mentioned(including honorable mentions) are definitely in most people’s list. Let’s all learn to appreciate everyone’s opinions and be civil. Personally I would have Em at one.
kendrick released the greatest hip hop album of all time in 2015, and debatably the greatest album of all time. He is the GOAT and there's no doubt. Ppl just hesitant to say it cause he doesn't have one foot in the grave. I say this and he's not even my favourite rapper.
I can say this video sure took an unexpected twist when ant placed ice spice in first place
Kanye at 10 is the greatest insult to hip hop accepting an apology letter to all kanye enjoyers
Need the top 50 video. Lou it is indeed criminal to not have Tupac Shakur in your top 10.
Everybody gotta have Tupac on their top ten? I wasn't hip with a dude who was screaming thug life and promoting peace on one song , then black crime on another 😭 "he was spitting real shit!" Look where it got him. His ego got him killed. Anything anybody says is just spoken from feelings. And not facts
@@phonymex3340they all do the same s*** and talk about the same thing you can't make a list without people talking about black crime or all this other s*** him being versatile is a plus he tried to do things that these are other artists didn't even try to tackle.. you just looking at things wrong because you're an idiot
1. Nas
2. Andre 3K
3. Notorious B.I.G
4. Jay-Z
5. MF DOOM
6. Kendrick Lamar
7. Eminem
8. Black Thought
9. Rakim
10. Q-Tip
while the number one is set in stone for me, numbers 2-4 can be switched around in any order depending on the day. Its really damn close. I do feel like Kanye is the greatest hiphop artist of all time, but as a rapper he is not top 10 for me.
HM:
Lupe Fiasco
2Pac
Ghostface Killah
Big Boi
10. Q-Tip
9. Raekwon
8. Andre 3k
7. Kanye
6. Kendrick
5. Eminem
4. Biggie
3. Tupac
2. Jay-Z
1. Nas
1. Nas
2. 2Pac
3. Ghostface Killah (switchable with 2 spot)
4. MF DOOM
5. Black Thought
6. Lupe Fiasco
7. Kendrick Lamar
8. billy woods
9. Rakim
10. Aesop Rock
Overall for me taking a bunch of different things into account.
my top 10 gotta be,
2pac
DMX
krs one
rakim
Nas
twista
Kanye west
kendrick lamar
Ludacris
Redman
keep in mind this is just my personal list, In my opinion there is no best because everyone's goat comes from their own personal love for certain artists, I love all of hip hop but like everyone else I have my own favs 😁
lil wayne better be here
I immediately knew Ant's list was screwed the second he put DOOM in 10.
ants list is better
The way Ant explained about Em and made Luka shut up was absolutely thrilling to hear.
Luca’s hate on Em in clearly biased.
Ant putting ice spice at number 1 was a surprise tbh
Love Lu for mentioning Rakim. Shid, Rakim should’ve been top 5. Most of these rappers don’t exist without what Rakim did.
1. Nas
2. Jay-Z
3. Biggie
4. André 3000
5. Black Thought
6. MF DOOM
7. Kendrick Lamar
8. Eminem
9. 2Pac
10. Kanye West
I have changed this list because I think my list was a bit misplaced
NO WRONG!!!!!
Here is the true Top 10:
1.Nas
2. 2Pac
3. Biggie
4. Andre 3000
5. Knedrick Lamar
6. Eminem
7. Lil Wayne
8. Black Thought
9. Rakim
10. Jay-Z (Overatted+Stole Biggie Lyrics)
Decent list but I would switch some of those placements.
@@charlieyork5439 this was an old list. my new list is completely different now.
Here is my new list:
1. Nas
2. Biggie Smalls
3. MF DOOM
4. Eminem
5. Tupac Shakur
6. Lil Wayne
7. Jay-Z
8. Kendrick Lamar
9. Black Thought
10. Rakim
Decent list
My new list
1. Nas
2. Jay-Z
3. Biggie
4. André 3000
5. 2Pac
6. Kendrick Lamar
7. Black Thought
8. Eminem
9. Rakim
10. Ye
I know it’s near identical to Lu’s list but I genuinely think these are the greatest of all time.
Ants Tupac argument is legendary
1. Eminem
2. Nas
3. 2 Pac
4. Biggie
5. Jay-Z
Do a top 10 hiphop artists of all time list
Yea would like to see this
my favorite rapper of all time is eminem, but without a doubt, no question, objectively, the best rapper of all time is Nas. I can't even say its close, Illmatic is the best rap album of all time, and one of the greatest albums ever in general. His music hasn't dipped in quality whatsoever imo, 30 years in the game and still going strong.
Wow it's so rare for em funs to be practical respect 🙏
Nod is overrated and so is Eminem Tupac's better and you know it
Lucas list is good but Tupac not being in there is criminal
Anthony’s list is fire
For me:
1.Nas
2.2pac
3.Eminen
4.Jay Z
5.Kendrick
6.Ande 3K
7.Biggie
8.Black Thought
9.MF DOOM
10.Lil Wayne