The reason there are no mass shootings in Switzerland 2 reasons 1 everyone owns a gun. 2 it's the richest country in the world by financially educating their people. Low poverty and good mental health.
I keep saying this, and so do anti-gun control leftists in the US - it's not the availability of guns that causes violence, it's social inequality. The reason Switzerland is safe is because we have next to no poverty, and that's why we can afford to have very liberal gun laws. Although it's also beyond puzzling to me how Americans always ignore the fact that a) carrying is all but illegal in Switzerland and b) while you can use a gun for self defense in your own home, it's very restricted and you can't just shoot someone for walking on your property or because you "felt scared".
@@leosaura1993 we have the same standards in most states in America. Don’t let the media lie to you. Switzerland still has gangs and organized crimes. Where there’s organized crimes there’s a shit load of illegal guns and a shit load of people who cannot legally possess them.
@@1czechit1 that is so wrong... switzerland is a typical immigration country, just like the us. Foreigners make up to 25% of the population and a lot get the swiss pass port every year.
@@boosensinder1378 and the top countries from which people immigrate are European (not North African, middle eastern or far Asian.) For example: In 2013 there were a total of 1,937,447 permanent residents in Switzerland. The majority (1.65 million) came from Europe. And the European Court of Human Rights condemned Switzerland for its racial profiling practices. Makes you willfully wonder why they do that.
Mental health is not the big problem here. We in the US have been waging a war against drugs for how long now? Have the authorities been successful in keeping drugs off the street, and out of the hands of our youth, our schools? Have they been successful in keeping them out of the hands of the dope dealers who sell them? Now do you think those same authorities have been successful in keeping guns off the streets and out of the hands of criminals, who commit crimes? But yet, some want more gun laws, restricting gun ownership, keeping people from protecting themselves aginst those very same thugs, and criminals with the illegal drugs and guns? WOW! YOU ARE YOUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE! NOT THE POLICE.
Important detail - you can NOT buy automatic rifles in Switzerland. They are reserved for police and military. Only collectors get special permissions. I know that many guns you see in the video look like automatic ones, but that's either because they are service weapons, or they are models where full-auto mode has been disabled. I'm not sure how it's today, but back when I did my military service and finished it, I was asked if I wanted to keep the rifle (StGw 57) - yes, you could actually chose that option. BUT - it would have been modified to not have automatic mode anymore. So, just because you see someone in Switzerland holding a gun that looks like an automatic rifle doesn't necessarily mean that it is.
Automatic weapons are also banned in the United States for private ownership unless you have a special collector permit that allows you to purchase firearms manufactured prior to 1986. The special permit includes stipulations that you submit to routine inspections by the government.
@@DixonCiderBox-69 Nope. I don't really enjoy shooting (as a sport I mean) enough. Also my model was VERY outdated ("Sturmgewehr 57" which tells you when it was designed). But I have no use nor time for it anymore. I also don't belong to the people who believe that in any coming crisis or armageddon scenario this will somehow save me... so I returned it.
They also don’t have a Constitution that says the right to bear arms shall not be infringed… There government is not trying to disarm them either like in the US!!
@@sandystanley1237lol the swiss goverment gives every man a SIG 550 when entering their military service which they can convert for 100.- after service to semi and keep at home…swiss goverment doesn‘t take guns away from it‘s citizen it gives them out to them almost free. And that at least since the K31 era.
@@sandystanley1237 that's the difference you don't get: We're a militia. Everyone including our polititians is a soldier under arms. And we all agree that a mentally ill person or a person with a crime record can not legally optain a weapon. That simple.
@@baslan6025 have you ever been to Texas or Arizona? This video reminds me of both states. Very little crime or gun violence in both and both states have very liberal gun laws. Just like Switzerland fyi. Thank you Switzerland, for proving that an armed, lawful citizenry, leads to an safe, nicer society. "Laws that restrict the sale of firearms. . . do absolutely nothing but empower the assailant. For an unarmed man may be assailed with greater confidence, as opposed to an armed man who has the means to defend himself." Thomas Jefferson
Obviously since our population is over FIFTY times that of Switzerland, more shootings occur. I think that the official definition of a "Mass Shooting" may be 3 people or more. Some of that will be because of criminal gangs, which is a growing problem.
@@johnb5393number of people has no bearing, what is measured is per capita. If you compare non war related civilian mass shootings per-capita, US wins vs every country on earth combined.
Switzerland doesn't have gun licences. At 1.22 she is getting a bit confused. Switzerland doesn't have a federal criminal records checking database like the Nix system in the US. Only the police have access to criminal records information (switzerland doesn't actually check mental heath status). So you either visit or write to your local police. They issue you with a permission to purchase certificate (which is basically just a background check). This lasts 28 days or six months if it's for ammo. I think it costs 28 franks. You then go to the gun shop with this certificate and you buy your gun.
You have to look at how a nation treats it's populace and America has a very bad record of social welfare. If it spent it's money on social welfare and improving it's health care system instead of arms then maybe people would change for the better.
"We 'muricans, are just the best of the best, so the foreign ppl should follow our lead therefore it's an honor for foreign ppl to be like us" Yeah riiiight.
There's a few wrong things and half-truths in this but let's focus on one which is pretty important: The background check doesn't contain mental health and addiction checks, it's only a record extract holding your current felonies before they're written off. You also don't get those checked when applying for the "license", not a license but an acquisition permit actually just like the ATF form 4473, which is only needed for handguns and semis
Hoi Bloke, du cooler, du. Bin ein bisschen Fan von dir... Das stimmt so nicht ganz. Vielleicht nicht alle, aber einige Waffenbüros klären z.B. über "Armeeakten" ab, ob der WS Antragsteller den Militärdienst aus ethischen (schiessen/töten) Gründen verweigerte, und verweigern dann den WS. Ebenso wird abgeklärt, ob es einmal eine Einweisung oder ähnliches in die Psychiatrie gegeben hat. Ich weiss das zu 100%. Grüsse aus dem Mittelland ins Oberland, ond guet Schoss!
@@71TOXIC eh, hard to be a fan of me when I'm not doing anything than commenting a few videos about Swiss gun laws but thanks haha The Firearms Bureau don't have the legal ground to deny a WES if you didn't serve, they also don't see why you didn't serve as it is not written in their ARMADATA access. They only see if the army checked the box saying you can't have a gun, but that can be unchecked afterwards and isn't a definitive NO to buying a gun Concerning any records of you being committed or having psychological problems the Bureau doesn't have acces to that kind of infos unless the police intervened and it was marked in your file If a WES was denied to you on such grounds it was an illegal decision and you should have fought back
@@cegesh1459 well sure but 87.9% are suicides, that's hardly an internal security matter. However we have one of the lowest gun homicides rate in the world
1:20 and the criminals will give _no shits_ about any of that red tape, so it makes all of that completely irrelevant other than government monitoring and registration and control. 1:35 Anyway, it's a _culture_ issue, and no, the U.S.A. _doesn't_ trust the government, and neither should anyone, there's more than enough data in the blood of _history_ to tell you why, so the lady got it wrong, it's personal freedom *_AND_* national security, it _literally_ says it right in the *2nd Amendment* 2:07 but what happens when you're _not_ safe? Do the swiss police magically drop out the sky like _minority report_ ? didn't think so 🧐
So... i cant realy say anything about the 1. Point because its to oudlandish bs 2.point bust because the U.S.A has a bad goverment doesnt mean that the rest of the world has one. In Switzerland, the people can usually decide whether a law is enforced or rejected. Unlike in the USA where you vote for people who hopefully represent your opinion Our politicians cannot simply build a wall. Our goverment cant decied t And the 2nd ammendment is just idotik at best why would you whant to give someone unlimmted amount of guns. 3rd. Piont well everyone has to spend time in the millitary or civil protection so we know how to defdend ourself and as stated in the video we can keep the guns we get from the millitary and we dont have a racist police unlike you.
Disciplined culture combined with a year's national service, always on alert to run to action stations 24/7, a week of training every year of your life, and you have to fit your uniform through til age 60. Murkns would never commit the way the Swiss do, or did when I lived there.
@@johnmartin7599 thats not true. They have no standing army in Switzerland. Everyone has to serve part time once they turn 18. Just like the reserve or national guard here. They keep their weapons at home during their service. Once their service is done they keep the weapon as is.
Bro get out of hear with actual logic it dosent help there narrative lol it's like Australia they rave about there gun laws untill the criminals started shooting at the police and they couldn't hide the fact they have made it now so only criminals can protect themselves lol and the Aussie people have finally clued on that criminals don't follow the law lol
You can't defend yourself with firearms in Switzerland either. Not exactly the model Americans would be proud to support.
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You can't defend yourself - period - from a bullet you didn't see coming.
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@@Hedgeflexlfz What can I say, Americans are very emotional. Just see what happens if you don't stand when they play the national anthem during *domestic* games. And I'm not anti-gun. I think they make for nice entertainment whenever the US have one of their little "episodes".
"You can't defend yourself - period - from a bullet you didn't see coming." You don't see the bullet you see the shooter and that is enough how do you think Police officers react?
"Except you don't see the shooter because he is in hiding." Ah so all mass shooters are ninjas and hide in shadow hmm? They don't randomly walk around in plain sight because there isn't anyone to challenge them? "How do you think so many Police officers get shot?" By challenging criminals. What happens when you don't challenge criminals? "Also American cops kill way too many innocent civilians, it's a really fucked up country." I have studied the statistics on fatal police shootings and the vast majority of ruled justified. Therefore the targets that are killed are killed because of their own fault. Either stupidity or criminality take your pick.
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@@1911GreaterThanALL Also your cops are fat as hell.
There is a fundamental difference that was missed in this propaganda. For the Swiss, the government allows them to have firearms. In the US, we recognize the right to bear arms is a God given right simply acknowledged by the constitution. The "report" alson doesnt bring up a wide array of other differences.
Nothing to do with God sonny. There is no mention of God in the Constitution or the Amendments. The other reasons being that compared to the US, Switzerland is a paradise.
We here in the US also have the highest number of Class 3 NFA Firearms ownership which yes, does require a higher degree of background checks with fingerprinting and a facial photo for obtaining Machine Guns, Silencers, and Short Barreled Rifles and Shotguns. Now the new eForm NFA system speeds up approvals for post-first time approvals of persons for those firearms, example, my first wait was 239 days, the second was 39 days, then 5 days for two, then 9 hours for my last. We no keep our photos digital and fingerprints on EFT file. While the use of Semi-Auto Military type rifles in crimes in the US is extremely low, legally transferred Class 3 NFA firearms have been used in only a handful of crimes since the NFA passed in 1934. Still, criminals have no problem obtaining such firearms from stolen Police & Military stocks as well as the fact 3D printing & low scale machining can now produce Military Grade Firearms (illicitly).
Well actually the background checks we do have mostly only go through the fbi database which has a lot of issues and errors. We need better more extensive background checks like also going through police departments of where you’ve lived, and seeing if you have a history of mental illness. Plus background checks aren’t required in all states. That makes it easier to buy a gun in one state less heavily regulated and bring it to a states that is. Plus measures like making sure each gun is registered and having mandatory training don’t seem like such a bad deal to me. Also gun violence data shows that countries that have gun control like Japan , the uk , Australia, Switzerland,etc all have vastly reduced rates of gun violence than the us. The logic is simple the easier it is to do something the more that thing will happen. With better gun control laws it will make it harder to obtain a gun so mass shooting /gun violence will inevitably happen less. Plus with mass shooting a lot of them have legally purchased their guns so obviously our current gun control laws aren’t good enough.
@@notgiven3971 yup the FBI database is screwed but that is their problem and not an excuse to curb the right to bear arms, fix your system, Secondly that does cover mental illness so if it worked properly we don’t need to add that in it is already done, and if it REALLY worked well it does check your local crime history etc and local sheriffs are the ones to issue carry permits anyway. Lastly yes Japan has less firearm homicides then the USA but that doesn’t factor in the difference in the US, also within the USA states with more firearm homicides are specifically those with harsher gun laws (like a stupendous percent of gun crimes happens in the inner city) So no I will not be registering any guns for our lovely friends at the goverment. (It is worth saying I live in CA and am so done with the ineffective gun laws (we still have school shootings,) that I am moving out in part for that reason.)
@@johngalt5166 How can you just disregard literally all of the countries that have effective gun control and thus much lower rates of gun violence. I mean for fucks sake we have a higher rate of domestic gun violence than Somalia and Syria. www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/03/24/980838151/gun-violence-deaths-how-the-u-s-compares-to-the-rest-of-the-world gun control works in countries like ths UK Australia, japan, Switzerland and there's nothing to say it won't work in the US human beings aren't that different as a whole. I mean the US has a stupider population as a whole compared to other countries. (We are ranked 28th highest iq country in the world overall and 13th education which as an American isn't surprising to me) Which further supports gun control to keep guns away from idiots who don't follow safety procedures www.forbes.com/sites/duncanmadden/2019/01/11/ranked-the-25-smartest-countries-in-the-world/?sh=7a6689ce163f That's like saying if we can't get rid of all mass shootings it's not right to try to stop most of them? that makes no sense. This is a human problem and it has human solutions. Gun control does work in California compared to other states that's why California has one of the lowest rates of gun violence compared to other states www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/21/states-most-and-least-gun-violence-see-where-your-state-stacks-up/359395002/ Plus licensing wouldn't infringe on your right to bear arms it would just make it so you would have to tell the government how many gun you have, training and psych evals. It wouldn't stop a good responsible citizen from bearing arms but stop crazy and/or idiots from obtaining them I mean look at switzerland almost every one of their citizens have a gun and they still have low gun violence due to better gun control laws. www.businessinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-rates-of-gun-deaths-2018-2 The data overwhelmingly shows that better gun control policies like those in other countries and states with better gun control like in california all have lower rates of gun violence overall. Does that means it's zero no , but I'd say having common sense gun laws is worth it if it means saving lives. (Plus having national gun control laws would make it harder for people to smuggle guns across sate borders thus also lowering gun violence)
@@notgiven3971 that BusinessInsider article is full of shit though, and the gun control in Switzerland is not overwhelmingly different from the US one. In fact in many regards Switzerland is more lenient federally (and even more when you look at California and the likes)
@@SwissBloke www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/12/4/9850572/gun-control-us-japan-switzerland-uk-canada www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/02/swiss-guns/553448/ Switzerland has more stringent gun control laws when it comes to always mandatory background checks when buying guns unlike some states in the us, outright ban of fully automatic guns,need a license which is only valid for one weapon ,check the peerson purchasing if they have a history of mental illness etc.. Gun control is a no brainer the logic is simple. The harder it is to do something the less that thing will happen. Gun control works in many other countries along with switzerland, like Uk,Japan,and Australia. They all have much lower rates of gun violence and that's because they have proper gun control laws. I mean just look at australia they're mass shootings gave plumeted ever since they enacted gun control laws., along with gun homicides/suicides as well. fortune.com/2018/02/20/australia-gun-control-success/ www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2019/mar/20/strict-firearm-laws-reduce-gun-deaths-heres-the-evidence www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback
It's not just a personal freedom it's also a right enshrined under the Second Amendment. Furthermore unlike Switzerland the United States is comprised of 50 States and territories that have their own individual set of laws governing the right to keep and bear arms. It's a little more different in the United States than Switzerland. And we law abiding Americans take our gun rights very seriously we can't say much for the criminal enterprises out there Lurking in the shadows
@petergaskin1811 if you believe in the Second Amendment and for which it stands then you have been blessed and anointed by the Constitution of the United States. You must hold and preserve for future generations yet to be born.
This is so american. did you know that your countrie is/was a sister repuplik to switzerland. that the USA has 50 states and switzerland dosent. Is simply not true we have 26kantons (states for those who dont understand what kantons are) beter said 24full and 2half. This is just some fackts dont take me word for word. I dindt whant to disprove his arguments.
@@ssilent8202 Obviously the real problem are the people using the guns. So you need regulations that help keep guns out of the hands of those that shouldn't have them. And maybe limit the type of guns people can get.
@@bellissimo4520 i disagree on the second part. I believe all military arms and weapons systems available to the us armed forces should also be legal for the private citizen to purchase, own, and use.
The major difference between Switzerland and the US is, that Switzerland has a more homogenous population (not regarding passport, but with regards to common values) with less conflicts between the citizens. In addition, the per capita income is much higher than in the US. As a result, gun violence does not happen so often.
Sorry to correct you, but the per capita income is actually higher in the USA than in Switzerland. We also have poor people over here. The main difference is education, (although it also worsens nowadays…). The respect for each other, empathy and the ability of critical thinking. In the USA rules a dominance of hatred, of disrespect and the conviction only his own way of life is “the right one” There will always everywhere be some criminal people, in Switzerland too, but when Billionaires and Corporations grip most of the money and less fortunate people are left to their own, the chances for them trying to get a part of the cake by criminal ways are so much higher ! Also all those children left alone watching violent movies and playing similar video games because their parents don’t have (don’t want to take?) the time to educate them the right way, are so much more candidates to maybe one day unleash their accumulated frustrations through an AR15 at school… As long as guys like Trump preach hate, the NRA successfully prevents stricter gun laws and Money always comes first, I’m afraid things may only worsen…
By homogeneous, you meant to say white. Actually Switzerland is a calm country no matter what colour you happen to be. Mostly because it's just a beautiful place, not some third-world s=hole full of yahoos shouting about the Holy Second Amendment.
1:44 "Whereas in the United States, it's more based on a personal freedom. They have a firearm to protect their own personal liberties because they don't trust the government in certain cases." Yeah? Got a problem with that former police madam? Seriously if she supports gun control I doubt she was a nice cop.
I think the key sentence is, that we are issued guns to defend the COUNTRY and we will..... You are making a point to owning a gun AGAINST the governement. We do have a trust in our people, our neigbours and our own freedom. This doesnt neccecary mean to shoot somebody for tresspassing and to claim it was in self defence. We have our arms to defend our country against any foreign threat, not as an excuse to just shoot some tresspasser
@@bouncinbetty2032 1:30 "Arin Zimmerman, a former police officer in Colorado who now lives in Zurick says the Swiss model guns and sensible gun control laws can go hand in hand." Yeah nice job on you being stupid and rude calling me retard when she just said she agreed with gun control.
@@michaeltrachsel6046 One of the biggest arguments for the right to bear arms is for the security for a FREE state. In other words to fight a tyrannical government. It's not just about fighting the bad guys across the waters. Of course there's nothing wrong with this. I'm an innocent individual who is entitled to freedom and just because someone has a suit and tie or a badge doesn't give even them a right to violate it.
It isn't the gun laws and ownership that stop shootings. It is our laws allow for plea barginning, where other countries dont allow plea barginning. And the family morals have gone to the way side .
No. Cause Swiss isn't part of a open border organization which has the former members of the east block in it. Members who don't have Millions of backmarket soviet military arms. Alone Germany has many million illegal guns.
Demonrats also letting in millions of illegal immigrants, with certain percentage of those illegal immigrants being in Mexican drug cartels. The U.S.' problem is way more complex than they think it is. They (foreigners) should come here and learn about all of the little details before judging, because their judgement is almost always wrong, since they base their judgement on what leftist Demonrat propaganda media gives them, and not what it is in reality. Look at the Demonrat big city ghettos, where MOST criminal shootings happen in the U.S. today, and those Demonrat politicians are always strict with gun laws in their local area.
gun laws have little effect on guns used illegally. what America needs to learn from europe is self control. its only since the mid nineties that mass shootings have become endemic. which coincidentally is when we started to get violent first person shooting games. There are too many in America unable to differentiate between real life and game life.
And its only been sinecure the mid 90s the us government has been trying to take away guns lol if you honestly can't see the government wants this to happen to take away the guns lol they they will have no resistance to there tyranny
The majority of Europeans can't own firearms. If they are allowed to they are unreasonably expensive. Not only that but Europe has had two world wars. What people need to take into consideration is that the government has completely ruined the country. Notice not 30 years ago you were allowed to take your shotgun to school. You could have it in your truck because people would go hunting after school. What's changed since then? Medicine and agriculture. All of this has been designed by the US government.
It has fuck all to do with laws. Switzerland is very peaceful. People are happy and kind. They don't really want to kill eachother. Fix the culture. You can own a gun here and you can buy ammunition and keep it at home. The idea you can't keep ammo at home in Switzerland is a myth! You cannot keep government issued ammunition at home, but you can buy ammunition from a gun shop and keep it at home as long as its safely stored. In theory there is nothing stopping people from commiting gun crimes here, but people just don't want to do that.
Not anymore. The ones who refuse to carry a weapon due to personal convictions, who aren’t physically able, but also the “Rambo” style guys, must either pay a tax or serve in what’s called Civil Protection (to be engaged in natural disasters, big event support, medical care and so on…)
You seem to have a slightly inacurate picture of switzerland. While there aren't any particulary "famous" gangs, it's not like they don't exist at all. Drugs are a problem and there's quite the active black market. And no immigration? About 30% of switzerlands permanent residents are non-citizen.
@@getlost3346 Both. Why? Off the top of my mind, whenever I hear about a school shooting in the US, the description of the perpetrator tends to be male, middle-class, white. So, the idea that immigration is somehow at the core of the gun violence problem strikes me as just racism.
@@Bird_Dog00 Why do I hear about gang rapes in USA and Europe always have migrants involved? Actually, more shooting in the USA are not school shooting but ethnic gangs over drug turf. Chicago, NYC, LA. Both US/Canada and Europe can do better without migrants. When I arrived in the USA back in 1970 from Eastern Europe, it was a much better place.
@@chrisfloyd7316 They weren't dumb enough to attack Americans in the past because behind every blade of grass was a well-armed patriot. Take the guns away and cut military funding and who do you will invade first?
@@ludzip You have military bases and nukes all around the globe... how could you think someone would even think of "invading" you... The US practically only border with Canada and Mexico... please, don't be ridiculous. Even the Alaska/Russia border is pretty much a joke.
@@SHAMSHAM1090 Respectfully, I disagree. You can't have large amounts of troops with beards because it compromises the effectiveness of your NBC gear. If enough troops go down from an NBC attack it will severly degrade that units combat effectiveness. Not to mention the impact on morale. Those that have a religious exception are pretty much rolling the dice with their lives, if they maintain said beard in a potential NBC environment.
So if the government dosnt think your for to own a gun they deny your application. That's a little concerning that the government gets to decide who has guns.
Nope. Not at all worrying that the G-man gets to decide who gets a gun or that they train people to use them. In fact that it why the Swiss have in may 2019 decided to tighten gun laws even further. Why? Because nut jobs aren't in charge.
@@dirgeslatki3637 and that's why gun crime will go up suckers hahaa. Live in Chicago and the criminals love people without guns haha. Also go to the south side. They dont give a rat's ass about gun laws. You will get murdered if there is a sticker on the wall. Pussies giving up their freedoms to crazy dems and libs and sjw. Good luck swiss. When you start hearing gunshots every night you will wish you didnt give up your rights....lmao pussies.
We live in the only direct democracy, we vote for almost everyone in government and have the right to oppose every law the government decides to introduce and even change existing laws if you get enough people to support the cause. Swiss people think of themself as part of the government, in the US on the other hand, the government seems like a seperate institution. Also if the government would decide to become a tyranny, the biggest part of the military consists of Militia. Normal people who have normal jobs and only are drafted into service for training and during crisis. The military wouldn't support a roque government.
@@dirgeslatki3637 Yeah, I live in Switzerland, I could have taken my gun home after service, but I didn't. Why, because I realized that I have mental issues and the government realized that too. Because, if they haven't done that, I would have killed myself. We have a good government, which is in a tug of war with your idiotic American government/CIA. In other words screw you, you probably rightwing, gunloving trumpvoter!
Well no. Some guns are permit-less (bolt-actions, hunting rifles, break-actions), handguns and semis are shall-issue, select-fires and explosives launchers are may-issue. The last ones are the only ones the "government" can deny your application if they feel like it, but that would be the same in the US with the ATF form 4
Same as US. We dont have swiss living here. Some of Our populations are viloent. Like blacks in Chicago shooting up thier own people. Most people are not like that
This alone shows and proves that having easy access and availability to guns and having a high gun ownership rate is not the problem. It's the culture and society that's the problem.
Sounds like NY. I live upstate and it took me 10 months for a pistol permit. It was a bunch of hurdles(7 references, 120$ fingerprint fee, 3 page application including why I want one, detective interviewed 2 x-gfs, had to go to nysp barracks and interview w detective, mental health and medication releases, and then finally sent over to a Judge for review and approval) and it honestly stops a lot of people from getting pistol permits in nys because it's such a long daunting process. I get wanting to make sure people are fit but it goes beyond that to the point where it's unconstitutional
Definitely not like new york. We just need a clean criminal record, send it to the police and wait a few days for them to process it. Costs $50, and we dont have to specify what we want. No barrel length restrictions, no magazine restrictions, no mandatory waiting periods. BUT: carrying other than for transport, unless you have a carry permit, for which you need to prove unusual safety concerns, or occupatial necessity, is illegal
@@monster2slayer We actually have restrictions about the length of a gun and also magazines. If you have a gun with a folding butt stock, so that the length is lower than 60cm, you need a collector permit. Same for magazines with a capacity above 20 (pistol) and 10 (rifle) round.
@@agentorange1291 yeah, its totally restrictive to have to send in form B instead of form A for the same price. /s Its a bureaucratic sharade that has no real world implications
I guess you don't want to mention the Racial-Ethnic demographics of the Swiss population in any fair comparision. Let me help you; German - 65%, French - 18%, Italian - 12%. See any correlation there? Like comparing apples to orangutans.
This video is stupid. Switzerland doesn't have gun laws much different than the US. What they do have that is different are regulations regarding the government issued full-auto battle rifles issued to the militia that we don't have here in the US.
Switzerland is social democratic country with universal healthcare and social security. If Bernie Sanders moved to Switzerland he would be regarded as right wing.
@@davedavids57 if America didn’t spend all its time and effort protecting little Switzerland and others we could be picky like y’all but we’re an empire and the fruits of it far outweigh you thinking your special for getting your boo-boo checked out thinking it’s free, when when you paying with your manhood and a million smaller opportunities
It's not true, Switzerland is actually a melting pot of ethnicities. We got people from very different countries here. We have very good social security and health care. I think this is the reason why there is very low violence crime here.
@@Summercamp1sland and we still take care of them lmao. Btw we got way way more ppl then french italians and germans in here. Im half vietnamese for example and alot of my friends are african or turkish aswell sooo
@@Lilimutz in Switzerland it’s not like other European nations trust me it isn’t like the uk with actual grooming gangs of middle eastern men grooming girls and if you call them grooming gangs you get arrested
The amount of stupidity in these comments is unbelievable. A lot of Swiss men own guns because they are allowed to keep them after their military service but they don‘t have the ammo for it at home. Also unlike in the US Swiss people don‘t treat guns as if they‘re holy and an absolute need. We don‘t need guns and it‘s no problem for us if we don‘t have any. The video kind of shows that topic from the American perspective and I can assure you that you wouldn‘t have gotten that many pro gun points if you wouldn’t only have asked someone who sells weapons for a living or works for the military…
@@davedavids57 that’s hilarious since in America with enough money you can get full auto machine guns like a Pkm where in most European nations your lucky if you can get a hunting rifle or a handgun
@@Summercamp1sland A civilian in the United States can only own a machine gun if it was added to the ATF registry before 1986. That's why they are incredibly expensive. If it wasn't registered before 1986 you can't own it. Most European countries allow civilians to own newly produced machine guns with the proper paperwork. In Switzerland it's fairly easy, however in most EU Countries you will need to have had a firearm licence for a long time and have a special reason (normally you collect that type of weapon) but it's possible. Not one of the 50 countries in Europe bans hunting rifles, only 7 countries restrict hand guns (and even then it is possible but extremely hard). Every country in Europe allows some form of Semi Automatic guns. No country has the ATF restrictions on open bolt, length, receiver dimensions, bolt dimensions the US does. In the US you can be arrested for drilling a hole in a receiver. Europe also doesn't have the severe importation restrictions the US has which means if the US Government don't deem the gun of enough sporting value it can't be imported. The only way being to cut it up and import the bits, and then combine them with at least 60% US made parts. Even then some countries like China have total bans on even parts importation. Here in Czechia I can import a gun from any country on Earth bar North Korea, Russia, Burma or Iran and even then I can just get those guns on the second hand market from nearby countries. I love my open bolt IWI Uzi, Norinco AK, Kalashnikov concern AK103, Original down converted M56 as well as my M4 with the military receiver. All of that you can't own.
@@davedavids57 also I like how you said “all of that you can’t own” when I own multiple of those also I don’t see how your actually trying to make an argument that Europe has better gun rights then America you are crazy it’s also incredibly how you leave out how in many nations of the eu while you can theoretically get these weapons you need multiple licenses and permits which the government can decline for no reason if they wish and they limit the amount of guns and ammo you can obtain
It's not as simple as that. If you'd take a state with the a simmilar ammount of citizens as switzerland in comparison, you'd still have a lot more dead school kids. Why? Because it simply doesent happen in switzerland.
@@mariusk.7723 Apparently there isn't one state in the US that has the similar amount of citizens as switzerland. In fact school shooting rarely happens in the US despite the fact that it has one of the largest population in the world. The larger the population the more poverty, the more poverty the more crimes.
@@mardukdemigod1523 rarely happens? The US had 288 school shootings in 2018, second to that is Mexico with EIGHT school shootings. And thats just school shootings not including all the other shootings they got going. So it doesent *rarely* happen, it does more than enywhere else in the world. And as I sayd, thats only the shootings where little kids die. The reason is not the amount of citizens, it's about education, respect and common sense. All three of those arent really strenghts of the American society.
@@mariusk.7723 Lol 288 is not just year 2018 alone, it's 2009 to 2018! Therefore it is still extremely RARE Considering that it is the fourth largest country and 3rd of the highest population in the world. Use your brain. In Fact most of the Countries with highest numbers of gun violence belongs to the Top 10 of the most densely populated Countries in the world!
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The reason there are no mass shootings in Switzerland 2 reasons 1 everyone owns a gun. 2 it's the richest country in the world by financially educating their people. Low poverty and good mental health.
I keep saying this, and so do anti-gun control leftists in the US - it's not the availability of guns that causes violence, it's social inequality. The reason Switzerland is safe is because we have next to no poverty, and that's why we can afford to have very liberal gun laws.
Although it's also beyond puzzling to me how Americans always ignore the fact that a) carrying is all but illegal in Switzerland and b) while you can use a gun for self defense in your own home, it's very restricted and you can't just shoot someone for walking on your property or because you "felt scared".
@@spacehamsterZH well here in the USA whoever shoots first wins! & losing isn’t an option!
Bullshit
as they said in the report you can not just buy a gun there is back ground check for mental health issues violence or addiction of any form.
@@leosaura1993 we have the same standards in most states in America. Don’t let the media lie to you. Switzerland still has gangs and organized crimes. Where there’s organized crimes there’s a shit load of illegal guns and a shit load of people who cannot legally possess them.
Good mental health and reducing crime which America lacks.
its also a homogenous society without was immigration, racial divisions. The society is different.
@@1czechit1 Man you people are obsessed with race
@@1czechit1 that is so wrong... switzerland is a typical immigration country, just like the us. Foreigners make up to 25% of the population and a lot get the swiss pass port every year.
@@boosensinder1378 and the top countries from which people immigrate are European (not North African, middle eastern or far Asian.) For example: In 2013 there were a total of 1,937,447 permanent residents in Switzerland. The majority (1.65 million) came from Europe. And the European Court of Human Rights condemned Switzerland for its racial profiling practices. Makes you willfully wonder why they do that.
Mental health is not the big problem here. We in the US have been waging a war against drugs for how long now? Have the authorities been successful in keeping drugs off the street, and out of the hands of our youth, our schools? Have they been successful in keeping them out of the hands of the dope dealers who sell them? Now do you think those same authorities have been successful in keeping guns off the streets and out of the hands of criminals, who commit crimes? But yet, some want more gun laws, restricting gun ownership, keeping people from protecting themselves aginst those very same thugs, and criminals with the illegal drugs and guns? WOW! YOU ARE YOUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE! NOT THE POLICE.
Important detail - you can NOT buy automatic rifles in Switzerland. They are reserved for police and military. Only collectors get special permissions. I know that many guns you see in the video look like automatic ones, but that's either because they are service weapons, or they are models where full-auto mode has been disabled.
I'm not sure how it's today, but back when I did my military service and finished it, I was asked if I wanted to keep the rifle (StGw 57) - yes, you could actually chose that option. BUT - it would have been modified to not have automatic mode anymore.
So, just because you see someone in Switzerland holding a gun that looks like an automatic rifle doesn't necessarily mean that it is.
Automatic weapons are also banned in the United States for private ownership unless you have a special collector permit that allows you to purchase firearms manufactured prior to 1986. The special permit includes stipulations that you submit to routine inspections by the government.
@@jackyack7850in california maybe, everywhere else its completely legal to own full auto weapons.
@@winzyl9546 you have no clue what you are talking about.
Did you keep your military rifle?
@@DixonCiderBox-69 Nope. I don't really enjoy shooting (as a sport I mean) enough. Also my model was VERY outdated ("Sturmgewehr 57" which tells you when it was designed). But I have no use nor time for it anymore.
I also don't belong to the people who believe that in any coming crisis or armageddon scenario this will somehow save me... so I returned it.
absolutely unpossible bünzlisch
Bünzlig, wenn schon...
They also don’t have a Constitution that says the right to bear arms shall not be infringed… There government is not trying to disarm them either like in the US!!
For now
And it comes with stipulations. They treat it as a privilege where we treat as an inalienable right.
@@sandystanley1237lol the swiss goverment gives every man a SIG 550 when entering their military service which they can convert for 100.- after service to semi and keep at home…swiss goverment doesn‘t take guns away from it‘s citizen it gives them out to them almost free.
And that at least since the K31 era.
Which American Government has tried to disarm you. Specifics please and dates. I'll wait.
@@sandystanley1237 that's the difference you don't get: We're a militia. Everyone including our polititians is a soldier under arms. And we all agree that a mentally ill person or a person with a crime record can not legally optain a weapon. That simple.
At 1:18 the store owner laughing is exaclty how all swiss laugh at this American video
Then at 1:22 and we laugh at your super safe countryman with his finger on the trigger pointing the barrel across the counter.
@@denbeighFinger isn't on the trigger and the gun isn't pointing across the counter. You need some glasses.
@@baslan6025 have you ever been to Texas or Arizona? This video reminds me of both states. Very little crime or gun violence in both and both states have very liberal gun laws. Just like Switzerland fyi. Thank you Switzerland, for proving that an armed, lawful citizenry, leads to an safe, nicer society.
"Laws that restrict the sale of firearms. . . do absolutely nothing but empower the assailant. For an unarmed man may be assailed with greater confidence, as opposed to an armed man who has the means to defend himself."
Thomas Jefferson
Switzerland isn’t the only country with high gun ownership and gun rights with no mass shootings.
The Philippines does the same.
Austria, Czechia, Estonia and increasingly most of Eastern Europe as they have all relaxed their laws.
Well, we also are 8 milions people vs. 330 milions in USA...
We have less gun crimes and mass shooting.. but we had in the past.
Also Norway.
Obviously since our population is over FIFTY times that of Switzerland, more shootings occur. I think that the official definition of a "Mass Shooting" may be 3 people or more. Some of that will be because of criminal gangs, which is a growing problem.
@@johnb5393number of people has no bearing, what is measured is per capita. If you compare non war related civilian mass shootings per-capita, US wins vs every country on earth combined.
Switzerland doesn't have gun licences. At 1.22 she is getting a bit confused. Switzerland doesn't have a federal criminal records checking database like the Nix system in the US. Only the police have access to criminal records information (switzerland doesn't actually check mental heath status). So you either visit or write to your local police. They issue you with a permission to purchase certificate (which is basically just a background check). This lasts 28 days or six months if it's for ammo. I think it costs 28 franks. You then go to the gun shop with this certificate and you buy your gun.
Swiss is a small country with almost no immigration, not a great comparison to the US.
yeah. Only 20% of the population.
So immigration is causing white kids to schools?
You have to look at how a nation treats it's populace and America has a very bad record of social welfare. If it spent it's money on social welfare and improving it's health care system instead of arms then maybe people would change for the better.
You can still buy a K31 and K11. Just when you are older than 18.
Nope , you have to write it down on a contract with the gun shop
IN the U.S. only people 18 and older can legally purchase long guns, 21 and up for handguns.
As in rare she actually 0 mass shootings since 2001 and that's the only one they have had
as a texan i saw all swiss are honorary texans
As a Swiss guy living in the us we are vastly simular, only diffrence is the language, size, and food
Cringe
"We 'muricans, are just the best of the best, so the foreign ppl should follow our lead therefore it's an honor for foreign ppl to be like us" Yeah riiiight.
Wait til you see the Philippines
I grew up in Texas and I never saw this shit
nothing to do with everyone growing up questioning their race or sexual orientation.
They dont have the mental health issues we do.
Not true, but we have a high living standard, a working social system with healthcare and good schools.
And no minorities that scoff at law and order.
I'm from Switzerland. Switzerland has one of the highest suicide and depression rates.
Americans are also known to be obnoxious and highly entitled characters.
Swiss on the other hand, well, far more reserved and humble.
We’re entitled because we know what is entitled to us
@@ssilent8202what is entitled to you?
Well, they don't have the FBI or CIA for one...
You don't know what they have nor will you ever know.
Are you sure just we dont call it FBI or CIA doesnt mean it doesnt exist
Yes they do, the have FIS and SIS.
Don't count suicides and self defense cases and violence by illegally obtained firearms as gun violence?
There's a few wrong things and half-truths in this but let's focus on one which is pretty important:
The background check doesn't contain mental health and addiction checks, it's only a record extract holding your current felonies before they're written off. You also don't get those checked when applying for the "license", not a license but an acquisition permit actually just like the ATF form 4473, which is only needed for handguns and semis
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Das stimmt so nicht ganz. Vielleicht nicht alle, aber einige Waffenbüros klären z.B. über "Armeeakten" ab, ob der WS Antragsteller den Militärdienst aus ethischen (schiessen/töten) Gründen verweigerte, und verweigern dann den WS. Ebenso wird abgeklärt, ob es einmal eine Einweisung oder ähnliches in die Psychiatrie gegeben hat. Ich weiss das zu 100%.
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@@71TOXIC eh, hard to be a fan of me when I'm not doing anything than commenting a few videos about Swiss gun laws but thanks haha
The Firearms Bureau don't have the legal ground to deny a WES if you didn't serve, they also don't see why you didn't serve as it is not written in their ARMADATA access. They only see if the army checked the box saying you can't have a gun, but that can be unchecked afterwards and isn't a definitive NO to buying a gun
Concerning any records of you being committed or having psychological problems the Bureau doesn't have acces to that kind of infos unless the police intervened and it was marked in your file
If a WES was denied to you on such grounds it was an illegal decision and you should have fought back
@@SwissBloke manchmal ist weniger eben mehr...
Den Rest lassen wir mal einfach so stehen.
E Gruess!
True but it should. Switzerland has also the higest death rates with guns in all of western Europe
@@cegesh1459 well sure but 87.9% are suicides, that's hardly an internal security matter. However we have one of the lowest gun homicides rate in the world
1:20 and the criminals will give _no shits_ about any of that red tape, so it makes all of that completely irrelevant other than government monitoring and registration and control.
1:35 Anyway, it's a _culture_ issue, and no, the U.S.A. _doesn't_ trust the government, and neither should anyone, there's more than enough data in the blood of _history_ to tell you why, so the lady got it wrong, it's personal freedom *_AND_* national security, it _literally_ says it right in the *2nd Amendment*
2:07 but what happens when you're _not_ safe? Do the swiss police magically drop out the sky like _minority report_ ? didn't think so 🧐
You get what you vote for.
So... i cant realy say anything about the 1. Point because its to oudlandish bs 2.point bust because the U.S.A has a bad goverment doesnt mean that the rest of the world has one. In Switzerland, the people can usually decide whether a law is enforced or rejected. Unlike in the USA where you vote for people who hopefully represent your opinion Our politicians cannot simply build a wall. Our goverment cant decied t And the 2nd ammendment is just idotik at best why would you whant to give someone unlimmted amount of guns.
3rd. Piont well everyone has to spend time in the millitary or civil protection so we know how to defdend ourself and as stated in the video we can keep the guns we get from the millitary and we dont have a racist police unlike you.
Criminals also give no shts about laws, so why dont we just abolish all laws. Lets unleash *real freedom* lets see what happens.
Comparing gun laws to a country with only 8m people is ridiculous
And yet, every country combined vs US. US still has the highest non war related mass shootings per-capita.
Disciplined culture combined with a year's national service, always on alert to run to action stations 24/7, a week of training every year of your life, and you have to fit your uniform through til age 60. Murkns would never commit the way the Swiss do, or did when I lived there.
Full auto rifles are legal to own, that's nice.
They are not
yes they are however you need another license. They're banned in the US@@cantthinkofabettername7016
They get to keep thier Army issue guns after they finish thier term of service but they are modified to fire semi auto only.
Fully auto are allowed to collectors only.
Pass a test, get through an exam, have a safe place for the guns and then you may have one.
@@johnmartin7599 thats not true. They have no standing army in Switzerland. Everyone has to serve part time once they turn 18. Just like the reserve or national guard here. They keep their weapons at home during their service. Once their service is done they keep the weapon as is.
The entire country of Switzerland is the same population as New York City. Just for perspective.
Bro get out of hear with actual logic it dosent help there narrative lol it's like Australia they rave about there gun laws untill the criminals started shooting at the police and they couldn't hide the fact they have made it now so only criminals can protect themselves lol and the Aussie people have finally clued on that criminals don't follow the law lol
You can't defend yourself with firearms in Switzerland either. Not exactly the model Americans would be proud to support.
You can't defend yourself - period - from a bullet you didn't see coming.
@@Hedgeflexlfz What can I say, Americans are very emotional.
Just see what happens if you don't stand when they play the national anthem during *domestic* games.
And I'm not anti-gun. I think they make for nice entertainment whenever the US have one of their little "episodes".
"You can't defend yourself - period - from a bullet you didn't see coming."
You don't see the bullet you see the shooter and that is enough how do you think Police officers react?
"Except you don't see the shooter because he is in hiding."
Ah so all mass shooters are ninjas and hide in shadow hmm? They don't randomly walk around in plain sight because there isn't anyone to challenge them?
"How do you think so many Police officers get shot?"
By challenging criminals. What happens when you don't challenge criminals?
"Also American cops kill way too many innocent civilians, it's a really fucked up country."
I have studied the statistics on fatal police shootings and the vast majority of ruled justified. Therefore the targets that are killed are killed because of their own fault. Either stupidity or criminality take your pick.
@@1911GreaterThanALL Also your cops are fat as hell.
They don’t see gun ownership differently, they see their government differently. We see ours as it is.
There is a fundamental difference that was missed in this propaganda. For the Swiss, the government allows them to have firearms. In the US, we recognize the right to bear arms is a God given right simply acknowledged by the constitution. The "report" alson doesnt bring up a wide array of other differences.
Nothing to do with God sonny. There is no mention of God in the Constitution or the Amendments. The other reasons being that compared to the US, Switzerland is a paradise.
Oh, The Swiss doesn’t have 2A, I, we, in USA do!
The USA already has the same purchasing laws, the government doesn’t follow through apparently.
Except if you buy at a Gun Show.
We here in the US also have the highest number of Class 3 NFA Firearms ownership which yes, does require a higher degree of background checks with fingerprinting and a facial photo for obtaining Machine Guns, Silencers, and Short Barreled Rifles and Shotguns. Now the new eForm NFA system speeds up approvals for post-first time approvals of persons for those firearms, example, my first wait was 239 days, the second was 39 days, then 5 days for two, then 9 hours for my last. We no keep our photos digital and fingerprints on EFT file. While the use of Semi-Auto Military type rifles in crimes in the US is extremely low, legally transferred Class 3 NFA firearms have been used in only a handful of crimes since the NFA passed in 1934. Still, criminals have no problem obtaining such firearms from stolen Police & Military stocks as well as the fact 3D printing & low scale machining can now produce Military Grade Firearms (illicitly).
We already have background checks lol, this does not provide any solutions.
Well actually the background checks we do have mostly only go through the fbi database which has a lot of issues and errors. We need better more extensive background checks like also going through police departments of where you’ve lived, and seeing if you have a history of mental illness.
Plus background checks aren’t required in all states. That makes it easier to buy a gun in one state less heavily regulated and bring it to a states that is.
Plus measures like making sure each gun is registered and having mandatory training don’t seem like such a bad deal to me.
Also gun violence data shows that countries that have gun control like Japan , the uk , Australia, Switzerland,etc all have vastly reduced rates of gun violence than the us.
The logic is simple the easier it is to do something the more that thing will happen.
With better gun control laws it will make it harder to obtain a gun so mass shooting /gun violence will inevitably happen less.
Plus with mass shooting a lot of them have legally purchased their guns so obviously our current gun control laws aren’t good enough.
@@notgiven3971 yup the FBI database is screwed but that is their problem and not an excuse to curb the right to bear arms, fix your system, Secondly that does cover mental illness so if it worked properly we don’t need to add that in it is already done, and if it REALLY worked well it does check your local crime history etc and local sheriffs are the ones to issue carry permits anyway.
Lastly yes Japan has less firearm homicides then the USA but that doesn’t factor in the difference in the US, also within the USA states with more firearm homicides are specifically those with harsher gun laws (like a stupendous percent of gun crimes happens in the inner city) So no I will not be registering any guns for our lovely friends at the goverment. (It is worth saying I live in CA and am so done with the ineffective gun laws (we still have school shootings,) that I am moving out in part for that reason.)
@@johngalt5166 How can you just disregard literally all of the countries that have effective gun control and thus much lower rates of gun violence.
I mean for fucks sake we have a higher rate of domestic gun violence than Somalia and Syria.
www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/03/24/980838151/gun-violence-deaths-how-the-u-s-compares-to-the-rest-of-the-world
gun control works in countries like ths UK Australia, japan, Switzerland and there's nothing to say it won't work in the US human beings aren't that different as a whole.
I mean the US has a stupider population as a whole compared to other countries. (We are ranked 28th highest iq country in the world overall and 13th education which as an American isn't surprising to me)
Which further supports gun control to keep guns away from idiots who don't follow safety procedures
www.forbes.com/sites/duncanmadden/2019/01/11/ranked-the-25-smartest-countries-in-the-world/?sh=7a6689ce163f
That's like saying if we can't get rid of all mass shootings it's not right to try to stop most of them? that makes no sense. This is a human problem and it has human solutions.
Gun control does work in California compared to other states that's why California has one of the lowest rates of gun violence compared to other states
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/21/states-most-and-least-gun-violence-see-where-your-state-stacks-up/359395002/
Plus licensing wouldn't infringe on your right to bear arms it would just make it so you would have to tell the government how many gun you have, training and psych evals.
It wouldn't stop a good responsible citizen from bearing arms but stop crazy and/or idiots from obtaining them
I mean look at switzerland almost every one of their citizens have a gun and they still have low gun violence due to better gun control laws.
www.businessinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-rates-of-gun-deaths-2018-2
The data overwhelmingly shows that better gun control policies like those in other countries and states with better gun control like in california all have lower rates of gun violence overall.
Does that means it's zero no , but I'd say having common sense gun laws is worth it if it means saving lives.
(Plus having national gun control laws would make it harder for people to smuggle guns across sate borders thus also lowering gun violence)
@@notgiven3971 that BusinessInsider article is full of shit though, and the gun control in Switzerland is not overwhelmingly different from the US one.
In fact in many regards Switzerland is more lenient federally (and even more when you look at California and the likes)
@@SwissBloke
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/12/4/9850572/gun-control-us-japan-switzerland-uk-canada
www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/02/swiss-guns/553448/
Switzerland has more stringent gun control laws when it comes to always mandatory background checks when buying guns unlike some states in the us, outright ban of fully automatic guns,need a license which is only valid for one weapon ,check the peerson purchasing if they have a history of mental illness etc..
Gun control is a no brainer the logic is simple. The harder it is to do something the less that thing will happen.
Gun control works in many other countries along with switzerland, like Uk,Japan,and Australia.
They all have much lower rates of gun violence and that's because they have proper gun control laws.
I mean just look at australia they're mass shootings gave plumeted ever since they enacted gun control laws., along with gun homicides/suicides as well.
fortune.com/2018/02/20/australia-gun-control-success/
www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2019/mar/20/strict-firearm-laws-reduce-gun-deaths-heres-the-evidence
www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback
It's not just a personal freedom it's also a right enshrined under the Second Amendment. Furthermore unlike Switzerland the United States is comprised of 50 States and territories that have their own individual set of laws governing the right to keep and bear arms. It's a little more different in the United States than Switzerland. And we law abiding Americans take our gun rights very seriously we can't say much for the criminal enterprises out there Lurking in the shadows
I love it "enshrined". Getting a bit Biblical there bro.
@petergaskin1811 if you believe in the Second Amendment and for which it stands then you have been blessed and anointed by the Constitution of the United States. You must hold and preserve for future generations yet to be born.
Well all of our 26 Kantons also have individual laws…
This is so american. did you know that your countrie is/was a sister repuplik to switzerland. that the USA has 50 states and switzerland dosent. Is simply not true we have 26kantons (states for those who dont understand what kantons are) beter said 24full and 2half. This is just some fackts dont take me word for word. I dindt whant to disprove his arguments.
@@petergaskin1811as a swiss i need to say our country has that to BUT we dont press it in to the entire political thing.
So maybe guns aren't the problem...
Them not being regulated is, obviously.
@@bellissimo4520maybe a lack of regulation also isn’t the problem
@@ssilent8202 Obviously the real problem are the people using the guns. So you need regulations that help keep guns out of the hands of those that shouldn't have them. And maybe limit the type of guns people can get.
Or regulate the people who misuse the gun, like felons or people who skirt the laws.
@@bellissimo4520 i disagree on the second part. I believe all military arms and weapons systems available to the us armed forces should also be legal for the private citizen to purchase, own, and use.
The major difference between Switzerland and the US is, that Switzerland has a more homogenous population (not regarding passport, but with regards to common values) with less conflicts between the citizens. In addition, the per capita income is much higher than in the US. As a result, gun violence does not happen so often.
Sorry to correct you, but the per capita income is actually higher in the USA than in Switzerland.
We also have poor people over here. The main difference is education, (although it also worsens nowadays…). The respect for each other, empathy and the ability of critical thinking.
In the USA rules a dominance of hatred, of disrespect and the conviction only his own way of life is “the right one”
There will always everywhere be some criminal people, in Switzerland too, but when Billionaires and Corporations grip most of the money and less fortunate people are left to their own, the chances for them trying to get a part of the cake by criminal ways are so much higher !
Also all those children left alone watching violent movies and playing similar video games because their parents don’t have (don’t want to take?) the time to educate them the right way, are so much more candidates to maybe one day unleash their accumulated frustrations through an AR15 at school…
As long as guys like Trump preach hate, the NRA successfully prevents stricter gun laws and Money always comes first, I’m afraid things may only worsen…
By homogeneous, you meant to say white. Actually Switzerland is a calm country no matter what colour you happen to be. Mostly because it's just a beautiful place, not some third-world s=hole full of yahoos shouting about the Holy Second Amendment.
1:44
"Whereas in the United States, it's more based on a personal freedom. They have a firearm to protect their own personal liberties because they don't trust the government in certain cases."
Yeah? Got a problem with that former police madam?
Seriously if she supports gun control I doubt she was a nice cop.
You are an idiot.
I think the key sentence is, that we are issued guns to defend the COUNTRY and we will.....
You are making a point to owning a gun AGAINST the governement.
We do have a trust in our people, our neigbours and our own freedom. This doesnt neccecary mean to shoot somebody for tresspassing and to claim it was in self defence.
We have our arms to defend our country against any foreign threat, not as an excuse to just shoot some tresspasser
@@bouncinbetty2032 1:30 "Arin Zimmerman, a former police officer in Colorado who now lives in Zurick says the Swiss model guns and sensible gun control laws can go hand in hand."
Yeah nice job on you being stupid and rude calling me retard when she just said she agreed with gun control.
@@thewaterdrop123 Back it up with an argument or don't say anything at all.
@@michaeltrachsel6046 One of the biggest arguments for the right to bear arms is for the security for a FREE state. In other words to fight a tyrannical government. It's not just about fighting the bad guys across the waters.
Of course there's nothing wrong with this. I'm an innocent individual who is entitled to freedom and just because someone has a suit and tie or a badge doesn't give even them a right to violate it.
God given freedom, not a gov. right here in US.
Best regards from Switzerland !
Hmmmm. Sell everything i own besides my firearms. Put it all in crypto. Gain Swiss citizenship. Move.
The cold never bothered me anyway 😂
Bad plan boss.
U can't carry ur guns herr
It isn't the gun laws and ownership that stop shootings. It is our laws allow for plea barginning, where other countries dont allow plea barginning. And the family morals have gone to the way side .
Be careful who you vote for.
I don’t think the Swiss have the problem of gun smuggling like America does.
No. Cause Swiss isn't part of a open border organization which has the former members of the east block in it. Members who don't have Millions of backmarket soviet military arms. Alone Germany has many million illegal guns.
Gun smuggeling is everywhere. This is about about the gun culture in Switzerland vs in USA, not smuggeling.
thewaterdrop123 yeah bit germany still doesnt have massshootings
Demonrats also letting in millions of illegal immigrants, with certain percentage of those illegal immigrants being in Mexican drug cartels. The U.S.' problem is way more complex than they think it is. They (foreigners) should come here and learn about all of the little details before judging, because their judgement is almost always wrong, since they base their judgement on what leftist Demonrat propaganda media gives them, and not what it is in reality. Look at the Demonrat big city ghettos, where MOST criminal shootings happen in the U.S. today, and those Demonrat politicians are always strict with gun laws in their local area.
@@thewaterdrop123 There no borders btwn Swiss ans Europe (France, Germany, Italy,…) ? And That includes east country ?
America's diversity is its weakness.
Switzerland is a very diverse country. Over 30% of it's population aren't Swiss Nationals. With huge numbers from the middle East.
Swiss isnt an ethnicity, its all a mix of german, italian, portugese and french, that live in the mountains.
Always has been.
It’s not a right in Switzerland
gun laws have little effect on guns used illegally. what America needs to learn from europe is self control. its only since the mid nineties that mass shootings have become endemic. which coincidentally is when we started to get violent first person shooting games. There are too many in America unable to differentiate between real life and game life.
And its only been sinecure the mid 90s the us government has been trying to take away guns lol if you honestly can't see the government wants this to happen to take away the guns lol they they will have no resistance to there tyranny
The majority of Europeans can't own firearms. If they are allowed to they are unreasonably expensive. Not only that but Europe has had two world wars. What people need to take into consideration is that the government has completely ruined the country. Notice not 30 years ago you were allowed to take your shotgun to school. You could have it in your truck because people would go hunting after school. What's changed since then? Medicine and agriculture. All of this has been designed by the US government.
LOL just shut up you imbecile.
The same “viOlEnT viDeO gAmEs” are sold in Europe and those countries too you absolute buffoon.
Few illegal guns in Switzerland.
I’m moving to Switzerland
It has fuck all to do with laws. Switzerland is very peaceful. People are happy and kind. They don't really want to kill eachother. Fix the culture. You can own a gun here and you can buy ammunition and keep it at home. The idea you can't keep ammo at home in Switzerland is a myth! You cannot keep government issued ammunition at home, but you can buy ammunition from a gun shop and keep it at home as long as its safely stored. In theory there is nothing stopping people from commiting gun crimes here, but people just don't want to do that.
Isn't every citizen required to do military service?
Not anymore. The ones who refuse to carry a weapon due to personal convictions, who aren’t physically able, but also the “Rambo” style guys, must either pay a tax or serve in what’s called Civil Protection (to be engaged in natural disasters, big event support, medical care and so on…)
@Crottedenez1000 Thanks for that information. That, too, would be a good model to follow in the US.
Aren't you? I thought that was the raison d'être of the Second Amendment, well-regulated militia and all.
No gangs, no drugs, no immigration. Is that a factor?
You seem to have a slightly inacurate picture of switzerland.
While there aren't any particulary "famous" gangs, it's not like they don't exist at all.
Drugs are a problem and there's quite the active black market.
And no immigration? About 30% of switzerlands permanent residents are non-citizen.
@Bird_Dog00 non citizens? Are they Europeans or non Europeans
@@getlost3346 Both. Why?
Off the top of my mind, whenever I hear about a school shooting in the US, the description of the perpetrator tends to be male, middle-class, white.
So, the idea that immigration is somehow at the core of the gun violence problem strikes me as just racism.
@@Bird_Dog00 Why do I hear about gang rapes in USA and Europe always have migrants involved? Actually, more shooting in the USA are not school shooting but ethnic gangs over drug turf. Chicago, NYC, LA.
Both US/Canada and Europe can do better without migrants. When I arrived in the USA back in 1970 from Eastern Europe, it was a much better place.
no drugs? lol
cocaine is very popular here
It is a matter of national sucrity in America to have guns, I have no idea why she can't see that.
No one in the military would attack citizens and no nation on earth would be dumb enough to attack US soil
@@chrisfloyd7316 They weren't dumb enough to attack Americans in the past because behind every blade of grass was a well-armed patriot. Take the guns away and cut military funding and who do you will invade first?
@@KHH595 nobody. You know why? Cause America is to fucking far away to be invaded.
@@thewaterdrop123 bro we’re not in the 1600s anymore sorry to break it to you
@@ludzip You have military bases and nukes all around the globe... how could you think someone would even think of "invading" you... The US practically only border with Canada and Mexico... please, don't be ridiculous. Even the Alaska/Russia border is pretty much a joke.
absolutely unpossible
The US should allow beards in the military
They do.
@ not broadly, which is why when you see those marches, you only see the ones that were given religious exception.
It should be across the board
@@SHAMSHAM1090 Respectfully, I disagree. You can't have large amounts of troops with beards because it compromises the effectiveness of your NBC gear. If enough troops go down from an NBC attack it will severly degrade that units combat effectiveness. Not to mention the impact on morale. Those that have a religious exception are pretty much rolling the dice with their lives, if they maintain said beard in a potential NBC environment.
You can’t jus walk into a gun store and buy a guy so easily in America people! There are plenty of regulations, in fact there are too many!!!
So if the government dosnt think your for to own a gun they deny your application. That's a little concerning that the government gets to decide who has guns.
Nope. Not at all worrying that the G-man gets to decide who gets a gun or that they train people to use them. In fact that it why the Swiss have in may 2019 decided to tighten gun laws even further. Why? Because nut jobs aren't in charge.
@@dirgeslatki3637 and that's why gun crime will go up suckers hahaa. Live in Chicago and the criminals love people without guns haha. Also go to the south side. They dont give a rat's ass about gun laws. You will get murdered if there is a sticker on the wall.
Pussies giving up their freedoms to crazy dems and libs and sjw. Good luck swiss.
When you start hearing gunshots every night you will wish you didnt give up your rights....lmao pussies.
We live in the only direct democracy, we vote for almost everyone in government and have the right to oppose every law the government decides to introduce and even change existing laws if you get enough people to support the cause.
Swiss people think of themself as part of the government, in the US on the other hand, the government seems like a seperate institution.
Also if the government would decide to become a tyranny, the biggest part of the military consists of Militia. Normal people who have normal jobs and only are drafted into service for training and during crisis. The military wouldn't support a roque government.
@@dirgeslatki3637 Yeah, I live in Switzerland, I could have taken my gun home after service, but I didn't.
Why, because I realized that I have mental issues and the government realized that too.
Because, if they haven't done that, I would have killed myself. We have a good government, which is in a tug of war with your idiotic American government/CIA. In other words screw you, you probably rightwing, gunloving trumpvoter!
Well no. Some guns are permit-less (bolt-actions, hunting rifles, break-actions), handguns and semis are shall-issue, select-fires and explosives launchers are may-issue. The last ones are the only ones the "government" can deny your application if they feel like it, but that would be the same in the US with the ATF form 4
Incredible you think the difference is gun issues and not small homogenous wealthy population issues.
Same as US.
We dont have swiss living here.
Some of Our populations are viloent. Like blacks in Chicago shooting up thier own people. Most people are not like that
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fun fact. Switzerland is homogenous population. This is the main reason they have low gun violence.
For "homogeneous" substitute happy.
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Why do they have blankets?
Because it's chilly?
@@SwissBloke lol
Mental health? In the Netherlands a officer killed his family.
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That's not Switzerland. Very flat, your Netherlands.
This alone shows and proves that having easy access and availability to guns and having a high gun ownership rate is not the problem. It's the culture and society that's the problem.
Not easy access. Well regulated access.
cool at the end that's the shooting range i shot at when i was age 9 to 12 and 14-16
great people there
One-sided view by the Press of course on several subjects they don’t understand: Guns, Rights & Liberties.
Sounds like NY. I live upstate and it took me 10 months for a pistol permit. It was a bunch of hurdles(7 references, 120$ fingerprint fee, 3 page application including why I want one, detective interviewed 2 x-gfs, had to go to nysp barracks and interview w detective, mental health and medication releases, and then finally sent over to a Judge for review and approval) and it honestly stops a lot of people from getting pistol permits in nys because it's such a long daunting process. I get wanting to make sure people are fit but it goes beyond that to the point where it's unconstitutional
Definitely not like new york. We just need a clean criminal record, send it to the police and wait a few days for them to process it. Costs $50, and we dont have to specify what we want. No barrel length restrictions, no magazine restrictions, no mandatory waiting periods.
BUT: carrying other than for transport, unless you have a carry permit, for which you need to prove unusual safety concerns, or occupatial necessity, is illegal
@@monster2slayer fuck NY. Bunch of commies
@@monster2slayer We actually have restrictions about the length of a gun and also magazines. If you have a gun with a folding butt stock, so that the length is lower than 60cm, you need a collector permit. Same for magazines with a capacity above 20 (pistol) and 10 (rifle) round.
@@agentorange1291 yeah, its totally restrictive to have to send in form B instead of form A for the same price. /s
Its a bureaucratic sharade that has no real world implications
You can bypass that by going to the another state and buy there instead.
Guns dont kill people freedom does
What does their migration situation look like.
Strict. Strict. Strict. But allowed where necessary on either side.
@petergaskin1811 Here is loose, loose, loose. One way.
I guess you don't want to mention the Racial-Ethnic demographics of the Swiss population in any fair comparision. Let me help you; German - 65%, French - 18%, Italian - 12%. See any correlation there? Like comparing apples to orangutans.
It's almost as if... The guns aren't the problem? Hmm...
Meh. I'm still keeping mine, aquiring more, and registering jack shit.
This video is stupid. Switzerland doesn't have gun laws much different than the US. What they do have that is different are regulations regarding the government issued full-auto battle rifles issued to the militia that we don't have here in the US.
Having all the money in the world. Where do they go?
I don't give a fk what they do there. My rights are nonnegotiable.
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Switzerland is social democratic country with universal healthcare and social security. If Bernie Sanders moved to Switzerland he would be regarded as right wing.
@@davedavids57 if America didn’t spend all its time and effort protecting little Switzerland and others we could be picky like y’all but we’re an empire and the fruits of it far outweigh you thinking your special for getting your boo-boo checked out thinking it’s free, when when you paying with your manhood and a million smaller opportunities
@@davedavids57 Switzerland is proxy state of our massive colony (nato) and its will fall before any of the nifty fifty does.
@@davedavids57 xd what a bs
2nd amendment, its there for a reason.
So Switzerland's gun laws are like Canada's...... mass shootings are also very rare here too
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What?… they are nothing like Canadas.
No theyre not even close to Canada's laws. Nice try though
Just compare the ethnicities!
30% of the Swiss population isn't from Switzerland. With around 6% Muslim.
A store who provided me a safety gun on telegram is called Hickok45 thy sell different types of guns
Nothing
Wish i could afford to move there. Go Sweden s...
Switzerland isn’t a melting pot of ethnicities
It's not true, Switzerland is actually a melting pot of ethnicities. We got people from very different countries here.
We have very good social security and health care. I think this is the reason why there is very low violence crime here.
@@jialiangou1075 no you have 3 white ethnicities Germans Italians and French not people from all over the world who hate your country but won’t leave
@@Summercamp1sland and we still take care of them lmao.
Btw we got way way more ppl then french italians and germans in here.
Im half vietnamese for example and alot of my friends are african or turkish aswell sooo
@@Lilimutz in Switzerland it’s not like other European nations trust me it isn’t like the uk with actual grooming gangs of middle eastern men grooming girls and if you call them grooming gangs you get arrested
Over 30% of the Swiss population aren't Swiss and 6% is Muslim.
The amount of stupidity in these comments is unbelievable. A lot of Swiss men own guns because they are allowed to keep them after their military service but they don‘t have the ammo for it at home. Also unlike in the US Swiss people don‘t treat guns as if they‘re holy and an absolute need. We don‘t need guns and it‘s no problem for us if we don‘t have any. The video kind of shows that topic from the American perspective and I can assure you that you wouldn‘t have gotten that many pro gun points if you wouldn’t only have asked someone who sells weapons for a living or works for the military…
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To be fair if that was true how come you can only get a fraction of the guns you can in Europe. With all your ATF and Federal importation rules?
@@davedavids57 that’s hilarious since in America with enough money you can get full auto machine guns like a Pkm where in most European nations your lucky if you can get a hunting rifle or a handgun
@@Summercamp1sland A civilian in the United States can only own a machine gun if it was added to the ATF registry before 1986. That's why they are incredibly expensive. If it wasn't registered before 1986 you can't own it.
Most European countries allow civilians to own newly produced machine guns with the proper paperwork. In Switzerland it's fairly easy, however in most EU Countries you will need to have had a firearm licence for a long time and have a special reason (normally you collect that type of weapon) but it's possible.
Not one of the 50 countries in Europe bans hunting rifles, only 7 countries restrict hand guns (and even then it is possible but extremely hard).
Every country in Europe allows some form of Semi Automatic guns. No country has the ATF restrictions on open bolt, length, receiver dimensions, bolt dimensions the US does. In the US you can be arrested for drilling a hole in a receiver.
Europe also doesn't have the severe importation restrictions the US has which means if the US Government don't deem the gun of enough sporting value it can't be imported. The only way being to cut it up and import the bits, and then combine them with at least 60% US made parts. Even then some countries like China have total bans on even parts importation. Here in Czechia I can import a gun from any country on Earth bar North Korea, Russia, Burma or Iran and even then I can just get those guns on the second hand market from nearby countries.
I love my open bolt IWI Uzi, Norinco AK, Kalashnikov concern AK103, Original down converted M56 as well as my M4 with the military receiver. All of that you can't own.
@@davedavids57 false you can own one still if you pay the taxes for the licenses required which are incredible easy to get with said money
@@davedavids57 also I like how you said “all of that you can’t own” when I own multiple of those also I don’t see how your actually trying to make an argument that Europe has better gun rights then America you are crazy it’s also incredibly how you leave out how in many nations of the eu while you can theoretically get these weapons you need multiple licenses and permits which the government can decline for no reason if they wish and they limit the amount of guns and ammo you can obtain
What a worthless report.
You wanna know something else?
Switzerland's gun ownership per 100 citizens is less than a fourth of the US : )
But the number of people that own firearms is virtually the same. Americans just tend to have more per person
You should also check how many rifles and even assault rifles switzerland has per capita...
In Switzerland we DON'T have street gangs and ghettos, nor abuse of drugs!
And most of immigrants DON'T have access to guns!
Think about it.
we don't have abuse of drugs..?
Lots of regulation
Not really though
Bro, what do you mean? You can literally buy guns.
Nope
"Few Mass Shootings"
-Because Switzerland also has a very few population. As simple as that.
England and frances population is less than 100 mill. But still, there are bombings and shootings
It's not as simple as that. If you'd take a state with the a simmilar ammount of citizens as switzerland in comparison, you'd still have a lot more dead school kids. Why? Because it simply doesent happen in switzerland.
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Apparently there isn't one state in the US that has the similar amount of citizens as switzerland. In fact school shooting rarely happens in the US despite the fact that it has one of the largest population in the world. The larger the population the more poverty, the more poverty the more crimes.
@@mardukdemigod1523 rarely happens? The US had 288 school shootings in 2018, second to that is Mexico with EIGHT school shootings. And thats just school shootings not including all the other shootings they got going. So it doesent *rarely* happen, it does more than enywhere else in the world. And as I sayd, thats only the shootings where little kids die. The reason is not the amount of citizens, it's about education, respect and common sense. All three of those arent really strenghts of the American society.
@@mariusk.7723
Lol 288 is not just year 2018 alone, it's 2009 to 2018! Therefore it is still extremely RARE Considering that it is the fourth largest country and 3rd of the highest population in the world. Use your brain. In Fact most of the Countries with highest numbers of gun violence belongs to the Top 10 of the most densely populated Countries in the world!
Probably not a lot of antidepressants and single parent families over there
Well Switzerland does not have alot of people with alot of mellon in their skin.