It wouldn’t have kept the pipe from rotting, but pipe that size and depth should have been installed with a fairly large envelope of stone around it. It should have extended to the spring line. I would wager there are as many areas of collapse as rot. I would also bet there was unacceptable deflection from day 1 of install with no bedding detail.
I never liked jobs that had multiple dirt moves but it has to be done occasionally. I had to install an 8" sewer line at 21' depth one time the deepest I ever had to install drains/sewers. Stay safe and thanks for the video.
Those 2 excavators working together is the closest I want to get to watching Ballet. It was mesmerizing and shows the skills and awareness of both operators. I don't know how much exp Tim had on machines prior to this job but he has sure learnt a lot from you I bet.
Killer Shot of both machines at the 10:36 mark, then at 19:38 at the 30ft. mark you said !! Little sketchy there on the Deep Hole it looks like....lolol.. Great job Chris !! Thanks for sharing !!
Love your videos ! I worked for a really big Road Construction company in Eastern Kentucky, They got paid by yardage . So if you wasn't a good operator you didn't last there but a couple of days. Everyday was like a road race ! My mine job was Production drill operator 6 3/4 inch holes to blow away these big Eastern Kentucky mountains. I could run everything though, I've been retired for serveral years now, is the reason I like watching your videos puts me back in the operators seat. No one ever thinks they'd miss that job, until they're gone from it for some time. It's was always fun for me out there , playing with the big Toy's. So think for all the good videos !
I agree 100% I been running heavy equipment for 20 yrs now. Everything from a mini to pc 3000 mass excavator and u really dont think u would miss being in that seat till u r laid off or just outta work. Enjoy ur retirement
Would have been interesting seeing what the original lay of the land was at the time that drain pipe was installed. Makes you wonder if it that deep originally or if fill for the present business situation continued to cover it for a level surface grade. Great content 👍
Was probably much shallower long ago. I work for a city and we've found manholes buried almost 8 feet deep. Makes you wonder sometimes what the town used to look like when they were first put in the ground.
Trey W I know in our area you will at times in certain stores see pictures from the past and when you realize on some of them where it’s at. It’s unrecognizable today from just 40 to 50 yrs ago. So that was also part of my reasoning for why that pipe would have been so deep.
It’s not uncommon for that to happen either, the store I work at is 2M higher than the old warehouse that was there before, if you look at where they sloped it’s down to the wall by the river you can still see the old parking markings on the wall
I'd bet that pipe was put in prior to the building and they dug the foundation and just spread the dirt out to save on hauling it away and now its ridiculously deep.
Looks to me like the whole system needs replacing with more permanent material as the steel piping is going to corrode through in another place over time a big job.
Stackable water would be good, but unfortunately the customer had just used cheap water. Conversion kits are all booked out until fall. Life's like that.
When you pulled up to the sink hole….You had me grabbing the arms of the chair saying “whoa…..whoa”…back up Chris….lol..🤣 I hate sink holes….They can really run deep and swallow up anything close…lol. Working holes like this, I would imagine North Carolina operators are a lot like those Virginia boys….”Hey You-all…Watch this…..🤣😂😳 We gotta see the next video on this one…lol.
Depending on how long ago this pipe was installed, they might have used a big cable backhoe like a Northwest 190D with a 6 yd. bucket--they could reach 40 '. After that, maybe Koering 1066--about the same reach and capacity. Deep sewer was always a pain, but sometimes necessary.
*What a pain in the ass for you but it was one of my favorite videos! It's not often we get to watch both of them going at the same time!! Thank you!!*
No guts no glory.... God that drove me nuts at the beginning of every show. Bigmac, that is the thing that drove me nuts about them (beside the fake drama, like before every commercial.... "Oh No...that's the end of our season". Come back from commercial and it's "oh I just flip that switch?") but every time Todd and the gang got something straightened out like equipment or ground they pick up everything, buy a bunch of new crap and then move to some new ground and produce nothing all over again. Todd's team should have been on a show called "Dirt Rush" because that's all they did was push around dirt.
Always go back to the old videos and let them play while working or just doing stuff around the house thanks Chris I dig and our main reason for loving your videos is the soil the dirt the clay red clay we don't have that congrats on all these new and extremely awesome adventures the past year wow young man we are so extremely Proud of you Chris new trucks couple machines especially your newest machine always grow thumbs up my friends
I do excavation (Tuff Excavation). Love watching your videos almost daily. Off today because of rain in central Texas. It will likely hit you today or tomorrow
Same here. I live on a plantation in north Louisiana. We have the full complement of construction equipment. I learn about situations we don't encounter here. Plus I see techniques we might use. One thing I notice is how rapidly they get slop in their buckets. Despite modern machines calling for grease every 50 hours, we grease with each fuel fill. And more often when working in mud or water. We use the keg size pneumatic grease system from Lincoln with a 50' reel. So the grease is done before the fueling. Another thing I notice here is that they do not buy progressive link thumbs. That changes everything more than simple digging.
So if they’re already collapsing and rusting away. would it be in their best interest and cheaper to just replace all of it. put brand new pipe down and not so damn deep
thecouchtripper I was thinking maybe to get the right slope for it drain for the distance it has to travel. But you can always put a water pump station in the middle somewhere. but I’m not there and it’s hard to judge just by watching the videos.
Freedom flight : Already posed this question in the previous video of this job. I can only assume Chris and John have mentioned this to the customer already. With that in mind, I'd have to assume they've done their level best to convince the customer that the pipe surely is rusted and collapsed (I mean for fucks sake they ain't gonna find a GD hibernating bear 30' deep in that pipe). So if all of this is in fact true, and a customer still threw money at me and asked me to DIG... I would look him square in eye and say, "Yes sir boss". ...smh...
The customer must be penny wise and pound foolish. The pipe is going to continue to corrode and they're going to have to continue to bring people out to fix it. If they just bit the bullet and replaced it all with concrete or plastic you wouldn't have to worry about it for a long time. Longer than the metal pipe that's in the ground now anyways.
The pipe is so deep because there's a grade required to get the water flowing; it's on a constant grade. I've seen a 60'' concrete storm drain with maybe 2' of cover at each end, but 53 feet deep in the middle where it went through a hill; drain was 3/4 mile long.
May be just me from loading my equipment. Anyone else bother to watch the backend of the dumptruck to see when it starts to sag? (balancing the load on the trailer)
Just looking at the dump truck. doesn't look like it has the power to pull that 220. Chris you mad squabbles with those Vators, especially the yanmar . Yanmar acrobatix! great videos!
Jay west. Probably the best financial solution as the original pipe is knackered . by the look of the downward slope from the buildings to the pond It doesn't need to be anywhere near as deep as the original pipe . Not being involved in the job or having to finance it just my opinion . I have full confidence Chris will come up with cost effective fix .Meanwhile I will sit back watch and enjoy the show .
that dirt is amazing - zero rocks. can't imagine that here in the northeast. and now I'm thinking...just keep digging, just keep digging, just keep digging, just keep digging...
Chris, in the movie 'Finding Nemo', Dory has her just keep swimming song. Well if you replace the word 'swimming' with 'digging', then that would be the background music to this video. lol. Good video!
That there is a money pit. I hope you didn't give them a flat rate. You were almost better off digging a new hole and laying a new pipe. No water no sinkholes. Oh invest the profits from this job into a proper pump.Otherwise great job, always interesting jobs.
Often wonder if the workers who put these machines together ever watch these videos. Seems like they would beam with pride watching their machines do the jobs they were meant to do. I would.
With all of the bad sections of pipe it won't be long before the rest of it is in the same condition. It might cost a lot more money but they'd be money ahead to abandon that drainage system and start over with a new one. Just my opinion.
Heading toward it being cheaper to lay a new pipe 6ft down? I have no idea how deep ribbed pipe can go, but there is a lot of push down there just from ground water pressure.
Everybody keeps telling him, " Use trench boxes!". He's around 25'-30' down to the pipe. Volvo 220 only has a dig depth of about 21'. The 250 is only gonna be about 2' deeper than that. He has to lay back the sides and work his way down to be able to dig deep enough efficiently. He knows what he's doing. If they replace the pipes and then have to have a man in there, then he can maybe get some trench boxes. And renting a bigger machine ain't gonna cut it either. A rental doesn't pay for the machines he already owns.
KJ Typically you do use trench boxes. Even if you have to bench down first. You dig out inside the boxes and push them down as you go. And if your working by a road, you don’t bench first. You go as deep as you can then start to bench on the outside of the box and continue digging inside and pushing the boxes down.
Chris, I’m not busting your chops, just giving you my opinion of being in this business for over 30 years. In saying that, if they want you to leave an open excavation that deep for 2 months you are opening yourself to some serious liability. With a few boxes you can lay some road plate on top and walk away. You can even undercut below the invert and rip rap to the invert, making the box Become the pipe temporarily. Just the way we have did it before.
And the academy award for best choreography by 2 excavators goes to letsdig18.
Letsdid18 plus !lol
It wouldn’t have kept the pipe from rotting, but pipe that size and depth should have been installed with a fairly large envelope of stone around it. It should have extended to the spring line. I would wager there are as many areas of collapse as rot. I would also bet there was unacceptable deflection from day 1 of install with no bedding detail.
A new Olympic sport: synchronised Volvo excavating! That’s one heck of a hole. Cheers from Australia. Jeff
I never liked jobs that had multiple dirt moves but it has to be done occasionally. I had to install an 8" sewer line at 21' depth one time the deepest I ever had to install drains/sewers. Stay safe and thanks for the video.
If it fits, It ships!
Now lets see you squeeze the 250 on the Tag for a bit of off road hauling.
Those 2 excavators working together is the closest I want to get to watching Ballet. It was mesmerizing and shows the skills and awareness of both operators. I don't know how much exp Tim had on machines prior to this job but he has sure learnt a lot from you I bet.
Really cool with both machines working together. It’s always a pain when you have to dig down as far as the excavator will reach
Damn thats a lot of digging bet you wish you had a 50 ton machine, that make quick work of it.
50 ton would be nice but imagine the pain moving that thing around, if only there was a more modular system lets you detach both tracks quick and easy
Watching two huge machines work together like that is just mesmerizing! That's a wonderful commercial shot for Volvo.
13:00 Olympic synchronized digging team!!! A thing of beauty. Why can't I get the words, "Tonka toys", outta my head? Darn you all to heck!
What’s next Chris? Re-dig the Panama Canal?
Killer Shot of both machines at the 10:36 mark, then at 19:38 at the 30ft. mark you said !! Little sketchy there on the Deep Hole it looks like....lolol.. Great job Chris !! Thanks for sharing !!
Two excavators moving mud reminds me of that synchronized swimming in the Olympics.
Your synchronization is amazing to watch!
Love your videos ! I worked for a really big Road Construction company in Eastern Kentucky, They got paid by yardage . So if you wasn't a good operator you didn't last there but a couple of days. Everyday was like a road race ! My mine job was Production drill operator 6 3/4 inch holes to blow away these big Eastern Kentucky mountains. I could run everything though, I've been retired for serveral years now, is the reason I like watching your videos puts me back in the operators seat. No one ever thinks they'd miss that job, until they're gone from it for some time. It's was always fun for me out there , playing with the big Toy's. So think for all the good videos !
I agree 100% I been running heavy equipment for 20 yrs now. Everything from a mini to pc 3000 mass excavator and u really dont think u would miss being in that seat till u r laid off or just outta work. Enjoy ur retirement
Would have been interesting seeing what the original lay of the land was at the time that drain pipe was installed.
Makes you wonder if it that deep originally or if fill for the present business situation continued to cover it for a level surface grade. Great content 👍
I was thinking the same!
Was probably much shallower long ago. I work for a city and we've found manholes buried almost 8 feet deep. Makes you wonder sometimes what the town used to look like when they were first put in the ground.
Trey W I know in our area you will at times in certain stores see pictures from the past and when you realize on some of them where it’s at. It’s unrecognizable today from just 40 to 50 yrs ago. So that was also part of my reasoning for why that pipe would have been so deep.
Mabe it needs fall
It’s not uncommon for that to happen either, the store I work at is 2M higher than the old warehouse that was there before, if you look at where they sloped it’s down to the wall by the river you can still see the old parking markings on the wall
Rent a few trench boxes will save you a ton of dirt you don’t have to move.
Stay safe!
I rather dig more dirt then work with trench boxes, cant stand those things
@@ExeQtd they are very complex. Smh
Trench boxes after benching OMG. Itsyour life or their money.
JESUS! That is turning into a MAJOR project fast!
I'd bet that pipe was put in prior to the building and they dug the foundation and just spread the dirt out to save on hauling it away and now its ridiculously deep.
was thinking the same thing it was probably a dumpsite for clay or i guess sandy clay whatever the material is
Wow.
How's that for understatement.
This is getting very interesting.
Thanks.
yes i understatement too
Be safe keep up the good work like your videos
It's great they had your experience to do this work on this project
When you boomed down into that sink hole my jaw hit my phone. 😂😂😂 I didn't think that hole was that deep. Sweet video I really enjoy the content.
As bad that piece of pipe looks that company should go ahead and get y'all to run all new pipe.
Looks to me like the whole system needs replacing with more permanent material as the steel piping is going to corrode through in another place over time a big job.
Way to much over burden for culvert pipe
It's a shame you can't get a heaping bucket full of water. It would go quicker if you could.
Lol that would be something if you could dig water like dirt!
you can , but just in the winter
Stackable water would be good, but unfortunately the customer had just used cheap water. Conversion kits are all booked out until fall. Life's like that.
With 20ft of water you might need to rent in some serious pumping gear if that comes back all the time.
Full load +++ . I imagine the previous contractor faced the same problems . A difficult set of problems to be faced with . Nice video !
Great video Chris thanks for sharing have a great day and stay safe out there
If you are a good boy I hear heaven has dry dirt!
...and filled with Cat equipment!
When you pulled up to the sink hole….You had me grabbing the arms of the chair saying “whoa…..whoa”…back up Chris….lol..🤣 I hate sink holes….They can really run deep and swallow up anything close…lol. Working holes like this, I would imagine North Carolina operators are a lot like those Virginia boys….”Hey You-all…Watch this…..🤣😂😳 We gotta see the next video on this one…lol.
Chris, you've taught Tim well, he's matching you scoop for scoop.
What a mess! I can't even imagine digging all that just to "check" on stuff underground.
The zeros on somebody’s checkbook are starting to run like a gas pump bout now.
Stephen Keefer these big distribution centers can afford it, not even a dent in the wallet
Oh ! Then by all means dig away dig away !
As an old boss used to say just gotta keep moving the decimal point its only one litte dot
you'd think just putting in a whole new drain would of already been cheaper....
Must have taken months to install the system initially. Wonder how big a machine or machines they used?
A big machine, unless they back filled after ?
A drag line LMAO!
Depending on how long ago this pipe was installed, they might have used a big cable backhoe like a Northwest 190D with a 6 yd. bucket--they could reach 40 '. After that, maybe Koering 1066--about the same reach and capacity. Deep sewer was always a pain, but sometimes necessary.
Chris, your efficiency of motion is incredible.
Woah, that's a deep hole. Almost to China. Those conditions are starting to look a little dangerous. Stay safe.
The problem is obviously with Chinese pipe since you have dug well beyond halfway there.
I can't be the only one who read that as "two excavators tickling the stinkhole" can I?
Oh I was? Nvm.
@@alexmaclean1 no, your boyfriend got excited too.
*What a pain in the ass for you but it was one of my favorite videos! It's not often we get to watch both of them going at the same time!! Thank you!!*
Tell Volvo you need a 750 to demo 🤣
The 220 and 160 digging in sync looked awesome
I swear those old pipes look like the creatures in the movie tremors.
I hope that inspector lady that found your mud pit that time does not find this hole.. she might not ever be seen again .
is there a follow up video to this project? thanks
“Hey,Todd! We reached bedrock in the glory hole!” screams Jack.
You said glory hole. He,he
Hoffman style
"Hey Todd, theres still no gold and we're even more poor. Better try your hand at singing"
@@smalldoseofmeful "Naw let's buy another brand new wash plant put ourselves even deeper in the hole, but we'll get double the amount of gold."
No guts no glory.... God that drove me nuts at the beginning of every show.
Bigmac, that is the thing that drove me nuts about them (beside the fake drama, like before every commercial.... "Oh No...that's the end of our season". Come back from commercial and it's "oh I just flip that switch?") but every time Todd and the gang got something straightened out like equipment or ground they pick up everything, buy a bunch of new crap and then move to some new ground and produce nothing all over again. Todd's team should have been on a show called "Dirt Rush" because that's all they did was push around dirt.
Now that's some diggin ! Looked like synchronized digging for awhile! Lol. For all the things u do and encounter I think Tim has been a good fit !
Greatest Line Ever..."But that's what a 30 foot deep hole looks like." that made me laugh!! Awesome Video...Again!!
Anyone that's ever been married knows what a 30 foot deep hole looks like.
that digs so much better than the cable operated version a few weeks ago.
In many of your videos, which I enjoy thoroughly I wonder if you can somehow vid the final result. Like the 1acre dam that you did.
Always go back to the old videos and let them play while working or just doing stuff around the house thanks Chris I dig and our main reason for loving your videos is the soil the dirt the clay red clay we don't have that congrats on all these new and extremely awesome adventures the past year wow young man we are so extremely Proud of you Chris new trucks couple machines especially your newest machine always grow thumbs up my friends
Enjoy your shows watch them all time
2 excavators tackeling the sinkhole, a lot of digging Chris...👌👍😎.
Don't know if you review all the other subscribers comments but they are almost as entertaining as the video.
Looks like it’s gonna be a big job
Chris is the best operator ever!!! Still need a response about Bradyhill...lol
ENJOYED WATCHING THE VIDEO CHRIS 😊
If you were to replace the whole pipes? Is this the deepest spot or does it just get deeper?😕
The 290 would have been great on this project
Looks like you do a good job working with and training Tim . You seem like a good boss .
wow that pipe was deep. amazing what heavy machines will do
Very cool. Imagine doing that job with a CAT 6015B though!
I am positive that I seen a Chinaman stick his head out of the bottom of the hole .lol 👍 great dig
Chris do they make trailers wide enough to hold the complete tracks?
Explain why using feet incase you slide is better, just curious never operated machines before
Chris, any idea how long that pipe has been down there? Did you hit moo too gai pan?
Need a big ole water jet to hurry that mud down to the lake. Clear out the existing pipe and clean up the uphill section!! Geterdone!!
What was the resolution to this? Can't seem to find a followup video.
I do excavation (Tuff Excavation). Love watching your videos almost daily. Off today because of rain in central Texas. It will likely hit you today or tomorrow
Same here. I live on a plantation in north Louisiana. We have the full complement of construction equipment. I learn about situations we don't encounter here. Plus I see techniques we might use. One thing I notice is how rapidly they get slop in their buckets. Despite modern machines calling for grease every 50 hours, we grease with each fuel fill. And more often when working in mud or water. We use the keg size pneumatic grease system from Lincoln with a 50' reel. So the grease is done before the fueling. Another thing I notice here is that they do not buy progressive link thumbs. That changes everything more than simple digging.
Synchronized excavating should be an Olympic sport. Only thing missing is music & Speedos
Mrs. Elite Earthworks dont think I wanna see Timmy in a speedo and cowboy boots....😂🤣
So if they’re already collapsing and rusting away. would it be in their best interest and cheaper to just replace all of it. put brand new pipe down and not so damn deep
thecouchtripper I was thinking maybe to get the right slope for it drain for the distance it has to travel. But you can always put a water pump station in the middle somewhere. but I’m not there and it’s hard to judge just by watching the videos.
Freedom flight : Already posed this question in the previous video of this job. I can only assume Chris and John have mentioned this to the customer already. With that in mind, I'd have to assume they've done their level best to convince the customer that the pipe surely is rusted and collapsed (I mean for fucks sake they ain't gonna find a GD hibernating bear 30' deep in that pipe). So if all of this is in fact true, and a customer still threw money at me and asked me to DIG... I would look him square in eye and say, "Yes sir boss". ...smh...
The customer must be penny wise and pound foolish. The pipe is going to continue to corrode and they're going to have to continue to bring people out to fix it. If they just bit the bullet and replaced it all with concrete or plastic you wouldn't have to worry about it for a long time. Longer than the metal pipe that's in the ground now anyways.
The pipe is so deep because there's a grade required to get the water flowing; it's on a constant grade. I've seen a 60'' concrete storm drain with maybe 2' of cover at each end, but 53 feet deep in the middle where it went through a hill; drain was 3/4 mile long.
Alan Ferkinhoff Job security for Chris, if they don’t want to listen then it’s literally going to be a money pit and every scoop is gold
May be just me from loading my equipment.
Anyone else bother to watch the backend of the dumptruck to see when it starts to sag?
(balancing the load on the trailer)
Time for a 700 excavator!! lol
How do they get a pipe in there that deep to begin with? Boring machine?
Just looking at the dump truck. doesn't look like it has the power to pull that 220. Chris you mad squabbles with those Vators, especially the yanmar . Yanmar acrobatix! great videos!
"Excavator Ballet" 16:23/30:44
The Master Operator Chris LD18 G.
Do u know how many gallons each bucket holds? Just curious
Did you guys ever finish this job
Is that pipe just for draining the parking lot? Why so deep? Abandon it and lay in new.
Jay west. Probably the best financial solution as the original pipe is knackered . by the look of the downward slope from the buildings to the pond It doesn't need to be anywhere near as deep as the original pipe . Not being involved in the job or having to finance it just my opinion . I have full confidence Chris will come up with cost effective fix .Meanwhile I will sit back watch and enjoy the show .
that dirt is amazing - zero rocks. can't imagine that here in the northeast.
and now I'm thinking...just keep digging, just keep digging, just keep digging, just keep digging...
Synchronized excavators new X game sport.
Looks like this could become very interesting!
11:30 screw synchronized swimming. This should be a sport.
Amazing machines! Thanks for sharing!
Chris is there a part two to this
Talk about playing in a sandbox and then some! Dam Bertha!
Chris, in the movie 'Finding Nemo', Dory has her just keep swimming song. Well if you replace the word 'swimming' with 'digging', then that would be the background music to this video. lol. Good video!
That there is a money pit. I hope you didn't give them a flat rate. You were almost better off digging a new hole and laying a new pipe. No water no sinkholes. Oh invest the profits from this job into a proper pump.Otherwise great job, always interesting jobs.
With as much dirt you have to move I'd say your other 220 might be needed to help speed things up. So far so good though.
Thanks for the video.
Haha!! I didn’t click on this video because I thought you were testing out those new Volvo’s you looked at a couple videos ago! Nice thumbnail
Often wonder if the workers who put these machines together ever watch these videos. Seems like they would beam with pride watching their machines do the jobs they were meant to do. I would.
With all of the bad sections of pipe it won't be long before the rest of it is in the same condition. It might cost a lot more money but they'd be money ahead to abandon that drainage system and start over with a new one. Just my opinion.
Two excavators, one digging deep handing muck off to the other. Kinda like two stages to orbit - NASA excavation.
That would be like a min ex in the bucket of a big ass one.
Heading toward it being cheaper to lay a new pipe 6ft down? I have no idea how deep ribbed pipe can go, but there is a lot of push down there just from ground water pressure.
28:28: Well, There’s your problem, it’s that new fangled expander hose
Wonder how much of the operational cost is Diesel related...
It's starting to look like the Sarlacc pit from Star Wars.
Why not bring out the 250 for this much dirt?
Everybody keeps telling him, " Use trench boxes!". He's around 25'-30' down to the pipe. Volvo 220 only has a dig depth of about 21'. The 250 is only gonna be about 2' deeper than that. He has to lay back the sides and work his way down to be able to dig deep enough efficiently. He knows what he's doing. If they replace the pipes and then have to have a man in there, then he can maybe get some trench boxes. And renting a bigger machine ain't gonna cut it either. A rental doesn't pay for the machines he already owns.
KJ Typically you do use trench boxes. Even if you have to bench down first. You dig out inside the boxes and push them down as you go. And if your working by a road, you don’t bench first. You go as deep as you can then start to bench on the outside of the box and continue digging inside and pushing the boxes down.
dont nobody want to pay to rent boxes for the 2 months its going to take for them to make a decision on what to do.
Chris, I’m not busting your chops, just giving you my opinion of being in this business for over 30 years. In saying that, if they want you to leave an open excavation that deep for 2 months you are opening yourself to some serious liability. With a few boxes you can lay some road plate on top and walk away. You can even undercut below the invert and rip rap to the invert, making the box Become the pipe temporarily. Just the way we have did it before.
@@howlandexcavating I guess things are different down here because people leave stuff like this open all the time and don't even tape it off!
Syncronized volvos!!
Now that's one hell ofa ladle! :D
I know you said it was a deep hole, but at 19:46 that home makes the excavator look like a toy model 😨