Tim Ross & Girls Gone Bible on Lustful Christians, Purity, Accepting yourself & more
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Jesus Christ loves yall if yall didint know come to Christ repent non denominational KJV
John 3:16-17
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
They can also check out Cait Taylor, Shes from the uk and very good,
1 Timothy 2:9-10
1 Peter 3:3
One cannot control the lustful thoughts of others, but modesty is mentioned throughout the Bible. Clothing that is meant to emphasize the sexual parts of the anatomy is not modest nor pleasing to God.
Yes, and what does that do with this video?
I wonder if men know that it applies to them as well.
@@Potatocheesebread In the video it appears that one of the interviewees is shocked that people are having a negative reaction to her posting videos to her profiles online wearing spandex and a sports bra to the gym. Tim responds ignorantly saying “what else are you supposed to wear to the gym?” Like modest gym attire doesn’t exist. The verses I quoted from scripture highlight modesty and I don’t think tight minimal gym attire falls within the category of modesty. Like I said in my previous comment. One cannot control the thoughts of others, but if one is emphasizing their physical traits that are universally deemed as sexual as they are heavily associated with the act of sex, you may be ignorantly causing brothers and sisters of Christ to stumble.
I look at the responses in the comments and it seems that a lot of people have taken this as a stamp of approval to not dim their sexuality which the Bible doesn’t condone. Just my thoughts.
@@Desmondenae_ I hope they do. The act of being modest is universal. It doesn’t just mean dress, it applies to all areas of life. If one is wealthy, they don’t need to show off their wealth, if one is handsome or physically gifted, they don’t need to parade around displaying their bodies, if one is extremely talented at a specific task, they do not need to boast their talents for everyone see and praise.
I am OBSESSED with Girls Gone Bible and I have to say this video was so cringy!!! The topic he persisted on.. ladies be “yourselves” wear sports bras to the gym, don’t hold back your beauty, don’t worry about being around other men’s wives. That’s their problem to deal with at home.. no no and no! And these ladies know that. You can cut the uncomfortableness with a knife!
Stay convicted ladies! YOU’RE on the right path. You guys are beyond beautiful.. even more since your modesty conviction and journey. Your soul shines now, not your lustfulness.
Yes, yes and yes to this!!!
I’m so glad you said this because I felt the exact same way. And even when he started taking about the rainbow flag…I love GGB so much and I felt like he focused on the wrong things and kept going and they look so uncomfortable.
I absolutely love Tim Ross but yea, I was a little unsure about that statement...
I agree with this comment!💯
You should watch Sadie Robertson Huff’s podcast episode with her Mom talking about modesty. No one is saying that they or any Christian for that matter (not just women) should dress provocatively. However if you watch that episode and read carefully the passages in scripture about modesty then you’ll see that it actually has literally nothing to do with how much a woman’s body is covered. It talks about making her adornment and beauty not merely outward but to be in the inner person of the heart. It’s about her not trying to draw attention to her outward appearance by wearing elaborate hair styles or EXPENSIVE clothes, and jewelry. If we wanted to take this literally we could say women can’t braid their hair because braids are mentioned or she can’t wear jewelry. No one says that though and rightfully so because that’s not what it means but this idea of not being able to wear a two piece bathing suit at the beach or having her whole body covered including her entire stomach that’s ridiculous as in these passages it literally says nothing about the coverage of her body. A bikini isn’t appropriate for the office but it’s fine for the beach. Do you think there’s some rule in scripture that men can be topless showing their six pack and buff muscles but women can’t show their stomachs even at the beach? Culture completely determines what’s lustful. In the Middle East and particularly in Islam women’s ankles are considered lustful and sensual. In parts of Africa women dress completely topless and men don’t consider breasts sexy because they are seen as functional baby feeders. We shouldn’t intend to cause lust but that’s a double standard. In the proverbs passage about adulterous seductive woman, her appearance isn’t even mentioned. If we all dressed like it was in Biblical times we’d all be in dresses, both men and women as even the men didn’t wear pants and their stomachs were covered too. The culture is what determines the dress code. Who’s to say that when God made coverings for Adam and Eve that Eve’s stomach was even covered. Another thing is that the Bible never puts the list of a man on a woman. If she’s not purposely trying to seduce him especially by her ACTIONS then him lusting isn’t her fault. We shouldn’t try to stumble anyone obviously but that goes for men and women and like he said women can stumble women but men can stumble men too. Men can stumble women too. We could all wear baggy sweaters and baggy jeans or sweats and still have people lust. Should we start wearing burkas too? Even that wouldn’t solve it. Many women who wear them in the Middle East are still raped. The lust of a man isn’t a woman’s fault unless she’s purposely trying to seduce him! Purity culture is the reason so many women are blamed when someone rapes them!
You didn't really breakdown your definition of modesty but as Christian women, we do have the responsibility of honoring our Father with how we dress and present ourselves. There has has to be a line. Do you think our Father would tell his daughters it is okay to walk around in a bra in public?
1 Timomthy 2:9 I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes.
The patterns of this world is normalizing less and less clothing in public these past 50 years, especially.
2 Romans 12 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is-his good, pleasing and perfect will.
Proverbs 11:22 Like a gold ring in a pig’s snout is a beautiful woman who shows no discretion.
Just because times have changed, people think we can walk around in bras and its normal. Its not.
Think about the context. You should watch Sadie Robertson Huff’s podcast episode with her Mom talking about modesty. No one is saying that they or any Christian for that matter (not just women) should dress provocatively. However if you watch that episode and read carefully the passages in scripture about modesty then you’ll see that it actually has literally nothing to do with how much a woman’s body is covered. It talks about making her adornment and beauty not merely outward but to be in the inner person of the heart. It’s about her not trying to draw attention to her outward appearance by wearing elaborate hair styles or EXPENSIVE clothes, and jewelry. If we wanted to take this literally we could say women can’t braid their hair because braids are mentioned or she can’t wear jewelry. No one says that though and rightfully so because that’s not what it means but this idea of not being able to wear a two piece bathing suit at the beach or having her whole body covered including her entire stomach that’s ridiculous as in these passages it literally says nothing about the coverage of her body. A bikini isn’t appropriate for the office but it’s fine for the beach. Do you think there’s some rule in scripture that men can be topless showing their six pack and buff muscles but women can’t show their stomachs even at the beach? Culture completely determines what’s lustful. In the Middle East and particularly in Islam women’s ankles are considered lustful and sensual. In parts of Africa women dress completely topless and men don’t consider breasts sexy because they are seen as functional baby feeders. We shouldn’t intend to cause lust but that’s a double standard. In the proverbs passage about adulterous seductive woman, her appearance isn’t even mentioned. If we all dressed like it was in Biblical times we’d all be in dresses, both men and women as even the men didn’t wear pants and their stomachs were covered too. The culture is what determines the dress code. Who’s to say that when God made coverings for Adam and Eve that Eve’s stomach was even covered. Another thing is that the Bible never puts the list of a man on a woman. If she’s not purposely trying to seduce him especially by her ACTIONS then him lusting isn’t her fault. We shouldn’t try to stumble anyone obviously but that goes for men and women and like he said women can stumble women but men can stumble men too. Men can stumble women too and we could all wear sweat shirts and baggy jeans or sweats and still be lusted over. Should we all wear burkas too? Even that wouldn’t solve it. Many women who wear them in the Middle East are still raped. The lust of a man isn’t a woman’s fault unless she’s purposely trying to seduce him! Purity culture is the reason so many women are blamed when someone rapes them.
“jezebel only has the power that ahab gives to her” WOW! That changes the perspective on everything! Thank you Tim! What an amazing man of God, these beautiful girls needed to hear this from you!!
Dress as if you were in front of Jesus always. I don't agree with this. Lustfulness doesn't just take down a Christian man - it takes down all men who don't live in a Godly manner and unfortunately that is the society we live in. The majority of men will look at a woman and have lustful thoughts. I think it is honorable of the girls to have a conviction and turn from their ways to honor GOD. That's the way it should be and this is why I admire them so much. They do not conform to the world.
I used to think like you but you should watch Sadie Robertson Huff’s podcast episode with her Mom talking about modesty. No one is saying that they or any Christian for that matter (not just women) should dress provocatively. However if you watch that episode and read carefully the passages in scripture about modesty then you’ll see that it actually has literally nothing to do with how much a woman’s body is covered. It talks about making her adornment and beauty not merely outward but to be in the inner person of the heart. It’s about her not trying to draw attention to her outward appearance by wearing elaborate hair styles or EXPENSIVE clothes, and jewelry. If we wanted to take this literally we could say women can’t braid their hair because braids are mentioned or she can’t wear jewelry. No one says that though and rightfully so because that’s not what it means but this idea of not being able to wear a two piece bathing suit at the beach or having her whole body covered including her entire stomach that’s ridiculous as in these passages it literally says nothing about the coverage of her body. A bikini isn’t appropriate for the office but it’s fine for the beach. Do you think there’s some rule in scripture that men can be topless showing their six pack and buff muscles but women can’t show their stomachs even at the beach? Culture completely determines what’s lustful. In the Middle East and particularly in Islam women’s ankles are considered lustful and sensual. In parts of Africa women dress completely topless and men don’t consider breasts sexy because they are seen as functional baby feeders. We shouldn’t intend to cause lust but that’s a double standard. In the proverbs passage about adulterous seductive woman, her appearance isn’t even mentioned. If we all dressed like it was in Biblical times we’d all be in dresses, both men and women as even the men didn’t wear pants and their stomachs were covered too. The culture is what determines the dress code. Who’s to say that when God made coverings for Adam and Eve that Eve’s stomach was even covered. Another thing is that the Bible never puts the list of a man on a woman. If she’s not purposely trying to seduce him especially by her ACTIONS then him lusting isn’t her fault. We shouldn’t try to stumble anyone obviously but that goes for men and women and like he said women can stumble women but men can stumble men too. Men can stumble women too and we could all wear sweat shirts and baggy jeans or sweats and still be lusted over. Should we all wear burkas too? Even that wouldn’t solve it. Many women who wear them in the Middle East are still raped. The lust of a man isn’t a woman’s fault unless she’s purposely trying to seduce him! Purity culture is the reason so many women are blamed when someone rapes them.
Jezebel had NO power without AHAB! It's right there in the bible in black and white. However, most bible thumpers skip over that part. Ahab gave Jezebel her power. Ahab was the enabler.
hmm, if Ahab have power then why didn't he get the land that he so desire from Naboth? isnt he king? Also why Prophet Elijah was afraid of his life by Jezebel and not POWERFUL king Ahab?
Ahab was a king but behaves like a little boy, easily getting angry over small issues, gullible without discernment The bible said "He who doesn't have rule over his Spirit, is like a city without walls."
True power doesn't lies in title like "king" nor strength" but in character, wisdom and knowledge. Proverbs 7:26...an immoral woman can destroy many mighty men...
@estherphillip exactly! Tim's logic is flawed. Kinda feels like he is minimizing what the jezebel spirit is really capable of. Now girls going to go out and think they aren't the problem when the issue lies on both ends.
@@YasmeenCampos10 riiiiiiiighhhhhttt! exactly. I'm not denying the fact the Ahab didn't have power cause he is king over Israel BUT Jezebel had power, she didn't NEED him, but only use/wanted Ahab like most women in this modern age is doing to men...even the "high value men" which dosen't have much just money and so called society status without GODLY standards. Ahab sold his soul to Jezebel as GOD told to prophet Elijah. I don't listen to Tim cause his mind is fleshly and flawed as u mentioned. Thanks for the comment atleast few have little discernment and wisdom to see truth rather than earthly logics.
Jesus Christ loves yall if yall didint know come to Christ repent non denominational KJV
John 3:16-17
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
@@YasmeenCampos10 I replied few hours ago but it was removed. I totally agree with you...loved ur comment thank you
this video changed my life and perspective on so many things. Thank you so much. I will no longer be dimming my femininity to try and make other fellow Christians feel more comfortable. ❤
Femininity is not based on your physical appearance
@@obi348 that’s not what I’m saying but okay go off I guess
Love this whole podcast but my only two cents would be about modesty even at a gym and the reason to that is because not everyone in that gym is saved or knows God. Many might be struggling with lust for all we know I think we have to also think about our surroundings and even though we’re not struggling with it doesn’t mean the other 80% isn’t. God bless you all.
And if you overheat and pass out… so be it. We have to be respectful of others unwillingness to practice self-control.
@@missnurseeri being modest doesn’t mean you have to cover your full body🤦🏽♂️
@@missnurseerino said wear a turtle neck or anything that would make you psss out smhhh
People that sre strggling need to ask for help. Not expect everyone else to spend there time trying to help them bite struggle. Folks take that one line in the Bible and put it fast above all the many times the word says to search yourself, discipline yourself, love your neighbor as you love yourself. Do not lust. We gotta do better.
@@denabruton6991 read Matthew 5:13-16
My two favorite podcasts combining ❤️❤️❤️
Tim Ross can have his personal opinions but he shouldn't be giving those opinions as if they are fact. Telling woman, or men for that matter, that they have nothing to do with others' lust is just flat wrong. We are called not to cause others to stumble. God calls us to freedom from sin, not freedom to do what we want. Its not about you, or me, its about giving God glory and helping him on his mission in every moment.
That's funny because the existence of a God is a matter of opinion, not a fact. To take an opinion and frame it as a fact when it's an opinion is lying. Either demonstrate your claim for the existence of a God or you're promoting unproven claims.
I'm glad he pointed this out but there should always be a healthy level of Modesty for which Angela and Ari most definitely are. He said they shouldn't have to cover up their beauty or their bodies. The beauty part I agree with. The other one😕
Wow!!! I love Girls Gone Bible and now they’re are on the Basement???!!! One of my favorite episodes. I appreciate you Tim Ross for being the brother that you are. I got to send this to a few brothers and sisters.
Tim, thank you. Thank you for speaking on toxic modesty culture of women and how it can be so soul crushing at times. THANK YOU!!!
Jesus Christ loves yall if yall didint know come to Christ repent non denominational KJV
John 3:16-17
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Toxic modesty. Lol
Jezebel is not absolved. Massive L of a take from the big homie frfr. Ahab is the SIMP spirit nothing healthy or positive about that. Swing and a miss big bruh. Not possible to be more Ahabs than Jezebels due to population and men being significantly fewer so again you failed but keep preaching
Thank you bruh for saying this
Agree! People should watch Sadie Robertson Huff’s podcast episode with her Mom talking about modesty. No one is saying that they or any Christian for that matter (not just women) should dress provocatively. However if you watch that episode and read carefully the passages in scripture about modesty then you’ll see that it actually has literally nothing to do with how much a woman’s body is covered. It talks about making her adornment and beauty not merely outward but to be in the inner person of the heart. It’s about her not trying to draw attention to her outward appearance by wearing elaborate hair styles or EXPENSIVE clothes, and jewelry. If we wanted to take this literally we could say women can’t braid their hair because braids are mentioned or she can’t wear jewelry. No one says that though and rightfully so because that’s not what it means but this idea of not being able to wear a two piece bathing suit at the beach or having her whole body covered including her entire stomach that’s ridiculous as in these passages it literally says nothing about the coverage of her body. A bikini isn’t appropriate for the office but it’s fine for the beach. Do you think there’s some rule in scripture that men can be topless showing their six pack and buff muscles but women can’t show their stomachs even at the beach? Culture completely determines what’s lustful. In the Middle East and particularly in Islam women’s ankles are considered lustful and sensual. In parts of Africa women dress completely topless and men don’t consider breasts sexy because they are seen as functional baby feeders. We shouldn’t intend to cause lust but that’s a double standard. In the proverbs passage about adulterous seductive woman, her appearance isn’t even mentioned. If we all dressed like it was in Biblical times we’d all be in dresses, both men and women as even the men didn’t wear pants and their stomachs were covered too. The culture is what determines the dress code. Who’s to say that when God made coverings for Adam and Eve that Eve’s stomach was even covered. Another thing is that the Bible never puts the list of a man on a woman. If she’s not purposely trying to seduce him especially by her ACTIONS then him lusting isn’t her fault. We shouldn’t try to stumble anyone obviously but that goes for men and women and like he said women can stumble women but men can stumble men too. Men can stumble women too and we could all wear sweat shirts and baggy jeans or sweats and still be lusted over. Should we all wear burkas too? Even that wouldn’t solve it. Many women who wear them in the Middle East are still raped. The lust of a man isn’t a woman’s fault unless she’s purposely trying to seduce him! Purity culture is the reason so many women are blamed when someone rapes them.
I would have loved to hear from the guests a lot more on this episode. 😊
Bro, low key made it awkward when he tried to pretend he wasn't attracted to them. 😂😅
Agreed. It was extra.. they're gorgeous girls, he has nothing to prove by pretending he doesn't find them attractive. Just made for awkward energy.
I really needed this, loved the podcast and talks on purity. Keep making more videos like this👍
A man once said to me that a woman could make herself look the ugliest imaginable, like a one-eyed cyclops, but a man can STILL look past ALL of that and STILL find her beautiful! A woman CAN’T hide what men were designed by God to see. Men were born innately with that gift. Period.
Jesus Christ loves yall if yall didint know come to Christ repent non denominational KJV
John 3:16-17
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
You're not responsible for the ones determined to lust; You're responsible for the ones trying not to lust.
Yesterday, I watched a GGB video, but it I've been watching their content since and it is such a blessing knowing them, they are doing something great, i have been a fluctuating Christian for years now and after that video I received conviction and God spoke to me,and i prayed for the grace of God to be on them to protect their anointing.
As for modesty, I feel like the more they grow deeper in faith the Lord, they'll develop a disciplined dress sense.
Wake up guys! What are we doing here? So GGB was talking about modesty like its the most important thing for them and then they ended up posting a post on IG that wasn’t aligned with what they were preaching, and being the Godly woman that they are, they removed the post and now Im hearing all these men say that they should just “be themselves” “don’t change you” “You shouldn’t have taken down that post”. If we don’t change ourselves to be Godly then our default is SIN. So you’re condoning us to be okay with our sin? We have to change ourselves to be like Jesus! Do you think Jesus would approve of that post? I really don’t understand. Instead of applauding them for doing the right thing/wanting to dress more modest clearly talked about in the bible and “which is truly beautiful” we are saying “it’s 2024 and it’s godly to dress that way and pose that way”!?! Btw I support GGB and when they posted that I was not tempted, not aroused, etc. I just felt like they’re not walking by what they’re preaching thats all. And I fully respect their decision because that was the “Godly” thing to do. No matter if we’re in 2024 or 2054 we should go by the Gospel because thats were the truth is. Please point out if Im not seeing something clearly, but I really feel like this needed to be said.
Yes I understand where you're coming from. I've observed the same thing about them. I do hope and pray for their continual growth and conviction cause it'll be a beautiful thing to see.
You're absolutely right, and I'll take it a step further and say that confusion is a tool of the enemy to cloud our minds from godly wisdom. It's popular in culture to twist standards according to how much you like a person. God doesn't do that though, his standards are consistent, This is why it's more important than ever for Christians to prioritize being led by the Spirit according to the word, not by what people (even well meaning people) tell them is ok. The Spirit is faithful to convict us when we need to make a change. GGB are clearly experiencing conviction and doing their best to live in a way that pleases God. I applaud and support them in this.
I love this conversation so much! I loved how you called them your little sisters and when she yelled that's my brother, I started tearing up. Having brothers and sisters in Christ is so powerful and healthy. I am praying and working on experiencing this type of fellowship. I'll check out their podcast. Thank You!
Jesus Christ loves yall if yall didint know come to Christ repent non denominational KJV
John 3:16-17
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Great stuff!!!
I could sense the love and the Holy spirit in these testimoies. 😢. I love it. Thank you Father for loving us .
This was so good.. Where's the rest 😢
. I cannot pinpoint the exact scripture but I’m pretty certain the Bible speaks about how women should dress which is modest . Pretty sure modesty isn’t wearing a sports bra at the gym. But it’s much deeper than that and no I do not think you guys have a jezebel spirit that’s crazy people are saying that .
Same goes both ways. Christian men go shirtless at gyms or beaches. They will purposely show off abs or their arms at the gym. While I understand your point, men do the same thing and imo are worse at times because they act as if it’s not an issue.
I agree just a sports bra on at the gym is crazy
You haven't seen their personal insta accounts.
A lustful man will understand undress a woman with a potato sack 🤦🏾♀️ . What you're basically saying is that if you are a blessing over a woman at the gym with a sports bra you definitely can't go anywhere where women are wearing a bathing suit.
Context. You should watch Sadie Robertson Huff’s podcast episode with her Mom talking about modesty. No one is saying that they or any Christian for that matter (not just women) should dress provocatively. However if you watch that episode and read carefully the passages in scripture about modesty then you’ll see that it actually has literally nothing to do with how much a woman’s body is covered. It talks about making her adornment and beauty not merely outward but to be in the inner person of the heart. It’s about her not trying to draw attention to her outward appearance by wearing elaborate hair styles or EXPENSIVE clothes, and jewelry. If we wanted to take this literally we could say women can’t braid their hair because braids are mentioned or she can’t wear jewelry. No one says that though and rightfully so because that’s not what it means but this idea of not being able to wear a two piece bathing suit at the beach or having her whole body covered including her entire stomach that’s ridiculous as in these passages it literally says nothing about the coverage of her body. A bikini isn’t appropriate for the office but it’s fine for the beach. Do you think there’s some rule in scripture that men can be topless showing their six pack and buff muscles but women can’t show their stomachs even at the beach? Culture completely determines what’s lustful. In the Middle East and particularly in Islam women’s ankles are considered lustful and sensual. In parts of Africa women dress completely topless and men don’t consider breasts sexy because they are seen as functional baby feeders. We shouldn’t intend to cause lust but that’s a double standard. In the proverbs passage about adulterous seductive woman, her appearance isn’t even mentioned. If we all dressed like it was in Biblical times we’d all be in dresses, both men and women as even the men didn’t wear pants and their stomachs were covered too. The culture is what determines the dress code. Who’s to say that when God made coverings for Adam and Eve that Eve’s stomach was even covered. Another thing is that the Bible never puts the list of a man on a woman. If she’s not purposely trying to seduce him especially by her ACTIONS then him lusting isn’t her fault. We shouldn’t try to stumble anyone obviously but that goes for men and women and like he said women can stumble women but men can stumble men too. Men can stumble women too and we could all wear sweat shirts and baggy jeans or sweats and still be lusted over. Should we all wear burkas too? Even that wouldn’t solve it. Many women who wear them in the Middle East are still raped. The lust of a man isn’t a woman’s fault unless she’s purposely trying to seduce him! Purity culture is the reason so many women are blamed when someone rapes them.
this was so uncomfortable to watch. he literally invited these women to tell them they're beautiful and men lust after them ad its not their fault. what in the world. and they go on to further discuss sports bras in the gym as being acceptable? as a Christian women, no this is not acceptable. MODESTY is acceptable. Christ calls us to be APART from the world. to be DIFFERENT and not of the world and Tim Ross over and over again, tries to justify wordly things. pathetic.
Got it! My brothers in Christ, Do NOT enable the jezebel spirits! Unfollow and Focus on God and Check your bros!!! Good word Tim 👏🏽
The balance between freedom and modesty is linked together through the Love of God realized. Freedom is great, but we cannot openly do something we know would cause someone to stumble. I don't perceive that GGW takes a "I'll wear what I want and don't care" attitude (which I think is not right), they have the right disposition in their hearts (based on what I know of them). So "on balance" I think they have the right disposition to live in freedom, because they are keenly aware of others motivated by their love of God and love for others.
I really appreciated the part about how the church should speak about the warning signs, instead of just saying you're bad when you end up in the ditch.
My question is does the same advice apply to men? Men walk around in tanks, low cut shorts and shirts, or sometimes go shirtless. How do you respond?
Absolutely
Yes, men need to dress modestly as well. I've had to focus on keeping my eyes up with some things I've seen men wear lol. Also, a shirtless man can inspire lust for sure.
I don’t agree with him, you DO have to hide your bodies , remember purity !!!!! And modesty … this guy is wayyy to liberal
He's OD
@@simpledollarinvesting 🤣🤣🤣😂
Yes, practice modesty. That’s agreed upon. I believe his point is even if you dress modestly as a man or woman, and someone is still struggling with lust towards you, then that is not on the person who is dressing modestly.
He’s not saying it’s ok to dress inappropriately or be justified in dressing inappropriately. He’s saying it’s a matter of the person who is struggling with lust and is not taking proper measures to not fall into that sin.
There is a place for modesty and there a place for dealing with lust.... Talking about one doesn't replace the other. Both together are the whole counsel of the Lord on this matter
Mmm as a Pentecostal yea we should, but what happens when we’re out in public and see someone (man or woman) dressed indecent? Does the responsibility to prevent lustful thoughts fall on the person, or us? I get your point and agree, but everyone is on a different path to modesty. Let’s get to the root of the issue and address it. That was the point of that conversation.
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I don’t agree with this guy, he is lustful towards you sisters, this is why he doesn’t want you to hide your beauty as the Bible teaches to dress modestly, please run away for your life!
1 Timothy 2:9-10
Proverbs 7:10
Romans 12:2
Matthew 18:6-7
Romans 14:13
1 Peter 3:3-4
1 Corinthians 13:19-20
Proverbs 31:30
Proverbs 11:22
Matthew 5:27-28
Romans 2:8
In love and peace brother and sisters that you may receive His Word with open, earnest hearts and turn away from the world and its wicked away. In Christ’s name, Amen
Sayyyyyy that again Tim women should not have to shrink back to make others feel safe ok! How I feel walking out my door daily and don’t go into any stores much less a church because it comes down to me being threat to a church brother smh! So many times I e been told I can’t do certain ministries because of my beauty can make men fall 🤦🏾♀️ sickening ppl have to get over themselves and let God work in pretty ppl too in all aspects of ministry and their life. Speak on that Jezebel vs Ahab spirits more
I love how he said that. There’s a time to make ourselves small for ppl in field ministry but the way that the Spirit delivered that… it ministered to me
Romans 14:13: Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister.
I am confused. So, dressing immodestly is not the woman's fault? Doesn't this verse imply that we should not cause our brother or sister to fall. IF you have control over it, I am sure. But in a small way you do.
Any one can help me understand this?
Feminism and selfishness is causing women in the church to encourage each other in immodest dress, being thirst traps etc. It's all on men and wimen take zero responsibility.
It may help you to read the whole chapter for context
Trying to be sexy is lustful. Always ask them about their motives and why they are behaving and displaying themselves in a certain way. If it’s to draw attention to themselves or self idolization, then we need to go to god about it, before it grows.
I’m not saying we don’t struggle in our flesh/sinful nature, but at least be honest and take accountability and not lie to your followers saying males are the ones to blame for paying attention to you trying to look sexy. If you are constantly looking at the other gender to be your problems, I promise it’s probably your own issue.
I’m not going to call anyone out or put anything on a person. But I would definitely feel a certain type of way if my wife was going to the gym in only a sports bra. There’s other ways to be comfortable but staying modest and respectful to others.
Ladies just be careful with men that are not your husbands or father. May God continually guide and keep you❤. Also avoid any form of flattery from men that are not your husbands or father. May God help us all❤
Amen!
There is a time and a place for everything. It’s not just about modesty with what you wear. It’s about inviting attention from the other gender. We all do this, and we need to declare war on it not validate it. We all can be attracted to others, but we need to find our love and validation through Christ and our spouses only. It’s not black and white. Men need to combat lust for sure and no one causes someone to sin entirely, but women also need to combat their own temptations as well.
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John 3:16-17
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
You talk to found people different than you talk to lost people.
A found person needs maintenance.
A lost person needs good news…. Whewww🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾That’s good 😊
Christians need love to.
I agree with him
Love that point of the Ahab spirit
The "Jesus is my stripper" Pastor x Girls Gone Bible?? This is my favorite so far.
I think the point he's making is SELF CONTROL! Check yourself Ahab.
Cool cat! I dig this oak.
EXXXXXACTLY!!!!! geez… I tell my daughters the same thing. Don’t hide how beautiful who you. God made you that way! Don’t ever switch up.
Love the podcast, Love Tim Ross..has helped me sooooooooo much...this isn't meant to be divisive at all
wear something over the sports bra..pretty sure that's a undergarment(i could def be wrong), we should try our best to look out for each other. it's not just "your problem" what we wear can be a detriment to the body of Christ. I used to not care either and look it at as a "your problem not mine kinda thing" but i don't think it's right anymore tbh and i doubt that's what Tim meant anyways...
but i felt the need to say this cause i would feel fake if i didn't lol
I was the same way, and now have changed the same way as you. Coming to understand and KNOW Jesus, Holy Spirit and my convictions. Not only for men but truly for women too. Straight women. There’s such a lustful spirit of perversion in the world now like crazy. I’m a young in shape girl and I make sure now to look out. Because I’ve seen the perverted bad side and worked through it with the Lord firstly, my husband, and my community of believers
My biggest struggle has been an addiction to pornography and sex. It’s existed since I was around 11-12
I am doing so much better now that I’ve awaken in the last year or so…at almost 30..the fight to over come this is brutal.
My main focus and battle now is getting aligned with gods word.
I respect embracing beauty. But if helping others is what your really about. You should realize skin tight leggings and cleavage is not modesty. It is a stumbling block for the ones like my self that are genuinely trying to do better and especially the ones that have not awaken yet to this spiritual battle.
These are good girls and the guy seems to mean well, but for them to hold this platform you would think they would be less fleshly and more spiritual.
I was raped at like 8 and have struggled since. You shouldn’t say it’s there problem if your acting as if your some helper. You dont know what people went threw growing up to make them think and act the way they do.
So many people have my same story but are so ashamed of them selves… what your saying is not helping their shame.
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Is the full pod gonna be available on the RUclips site though?
Probably not
It’s likely on the B-Side app
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"Christians are weird" 😂 yup! I totally relate. I came to christianity at 37 and it's hard to find your place among those who have grown up in the church.
I grew up in the church, I am still a Christian and I have to agree 😂
@@loveflowsfromife Lol. I appreciate your sense of humor about this!
It's about time!! Love these girls
You are truly making everyone rise higher by your voice! PRAISE GOD!! Love you all. Changing my life
I disagree with what T.R tells these women regarding not shying back from their beauty . It’s not biblically sound advice . in fact the Bible tells us that we should not do something that may make somebody else stumble. Therefore I feel the best advice to give would be to take it to god in prayer , if the holy spirit does not personally convict you on a matter ( e.g a matter that is not clearly defined in the Bible ) then I believe it’s ok . But if he does , then you should obey the H.S. Especially these 2 women with such a great influence .
Can I take your comment and ask why someone’s beauty would cause another to stumble in their belief and faith in Jesus?
@@maraburton2629 I don’t think beauty itself is a stumbling block. The issue is how it’s displayed. The Bible is quite clear on how Christian women should present themselves, and if people have a problem with those instructions, as well as any other scriptures that outline how women should conduct themselves, maybe they should take it up with the Author.
I think the issue is that we're talking past God. God's idea of beauty is NOT the same as man's idea of beauty. God created beauty and wants it to be shown but what He finds beautiful in His children is not wrapped up in physical looks and adornments. That's man's idea of beauty. God said in 1 Tim 2:10 Godly-professing women are to adorn themselves in good works. That's what He finds beautiful. Show that off and let the light of God shine through. Don't let physical beauty be the focus when it should be God.
I'll be honest, I think us men need to set the example for modesty. We can't expect the ladies to carry the entire burden of being modest in their appearance when men have their own part in how they carry themselves. We must ALSO hold ourselves accountable on a personal and peer level when we hear our brothers saying certain things or looking at women a certain way! "[28] But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. [29] If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell." Matthew 5:28-29 NKJV
One thing, Tim finna say what needs to be said. Glad someone addressed the Ahab spirit.
They are so pretty & saved 🙌🏾👑👑 thank God ❤
Hey where is the full video?
Again why are we putting it on WOMEN to make men manage THIER LUST, women can dress modestly and should BUT ITS UP TO MEN TO MANAGE THEIR LUST!!!
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Is this a part 1? I need more! lol it was so good!!
T shirt works at the gym. I wear a long tank or tee or tie my sweatshirt around my waist to cover my rear. Or I wear old school baggy sweatpants.
Who cares? You should be able to work out however you please. Christian or not. It's a gym, not church. You people really need to chill.
For some odd reason this episode has a very bad delay on B side
Or am I the only one having problems 🤔👀
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I pray for discernment for GGB, to realise how wrong he was for this whole discussion. I also pray that he may be enlightened and take back his statements, but from the episode it seems he will just ignore any negative comments, because appatently we can’t judge and call each other higher as christians😒
I am glad you spoke to them about not shrinking back. I know they always shame themselves so often about their appearance. They are literally just beautiful women. Sure they enhance their natural beauty but other people’s reactions to them are their own reactions to beauty. That’s not something those girls need to take full ownership over
ugh good topic. As worship leaders how would I address a member posting super sexy photos??
I'd read through some of these good comments, write diwn the verse on Timothy and write down the verses about not doing things just to please ourselves but out of love help a brother out. I talk about being our brothers keeper from Genesis. From a secular perspective, talk about not being thirst traps. Just some ideas.
The collab I have been praying for!!
About the Jezzebel spirit. He's right about the King giving her power is exactly what Jezzebel does she seduces, manipulates and controls her victims. Ahab did what many men do and have done in allowing a Jezzebel to run a muck in his kingdom.
Me starting the video then rushing to download Bside app🤣😝
God HATED Jezabel that dogs ate her 😢
I love you girls!!!! My sisters ❤️❤️❤️ you are so genuine and I see Jesus in you both!
You’re not only beautiful but honestly it’s how you are inside that makes you both! Can’t wait to meet you in heaven. Love you. Keep going! We love to please God. Not people. Xo 😘 get it girls!!!!!!
12:01 truth
Whenever I watch this, I focus more on the main content and less or not at all in the comments. Gotta guard the mind too from the distractions.
Keep up the pod Sir!
Johnny Chang next
This hit me so hard, I love these women they introduced me to Jesus and I'm so grateful. I love the way you speak with so much love and boldness x easy subscribe x
This is so timely because I really need clarity right now. Now I'm going to pray this prayer fully reassured that I have an audience with the audience. Thank you pst Steven
~13:00 Ok. Serious talk.
Emy Moore (@savednotsoft) posted an ig photo dump with her boyfriend (not husband)
There was a valentines spread on a BED. Valentines gifts on a hotel bed.
This is absolutely sinful!!!! Comments were lovingly calling this out. Other stupid comments were like “why y’all hating”
And Emy never ever addressed it. She just moved on & the photo’s still up & she acts like she saintly. This is something to side eye. How could she ignore everyone’s loving rebukes, that’s just so disingenuous & it’s promoting sin, she has many young girls looking up to her.
Thoughts? Serious topic.
Bc she’s still active & going on preaching engagements around the country, without addressing her sin. It’s heartbreaking!
She needs to be told, if she doesn’t listen to humble normies, fellow Christian influencers should tell her!!! It’s all about Jesus, don’t coddle people living compromising sinful lives, love them & reprove rhem
lol people talking about modesty are so weird
12:35 I was like I need to go back and say sorry to the person I called a Jezebel because it definitely was there Ahab. 😂😂😂 I'm serious and joking at the same time but real talk though the whole picture needs to be examined. Smh
“There are way more Ahabs than Jezebels”
Thank you. I was told by my ex husband that I was being sexually suggestive by sharing my workout videos with form-fitting workout clothes. SMH
This is so sweet. They seem to enjoy being taken care of by a "big brother" for real. They just gained a firt time follower!
This was good to me & I learned from it
My faves in one video 🤯 screaminhgggg
This is beautiful. I’m ready!
Tim, we miss you at Gateway church and we love what you are doing with @TheBasementPodcast and the B-side app. I love everything about you brother I AM GETTING MY FEET WET. ❤😊
Also to piggyback on the 45 mph analogy…. Because I am an architect. We know there is a sign that gives warning, some will ignore it. So we have guardrails at the potential accident which is made to put you back on course depending on the vehicle (some will just sit there for a while until someone helps) or you will be put back on course and forced to slow down and then regroup and keep going…
Exodus 20:15
Thou shalt not steal.
Dope collab
Ahab spirit is for sure the medias
My three favs in one video🥹‼️
Love how he makes it plain
facts
I can't subscribe to the b side app
Please you guys should work on it
Thank you Tim and ladies ! Truth spittin
Where can we watch the full podcast 😭😭🥹🥹