10 Cities EVERYONE is LEAVING in America in 2023 & 2024
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2023
- Are you thinking about buying a home in a new city? Maybe you should avoid the cities on this list like everyone else.
Today we look at the 10 Cities everyone is leaving in the United States of America. Relocating is the new normal here in the US. While doing your research for a new place to buy some real estate and start a new life, you'll find plenty of videos about where you should go, in this video, you'll find out where you shouldn't.
We have 10 cities in this list that people have been flooding out of or are about to start a mass exodus.
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10. Baltimore, MD
9. Kansa City, MO
8. Minneapolis , MN
7. Milwaukee, WI
6. Cincinnati , OH
5. Buffalo, NY
4. Pittsburgh, PA
3. St. Louis, MO
2. Cleveland, OH
1. Detroit, MI
It's laughable that the author of this video did not include San Francisco and Chicago on this list!
And Oakland
He also never mentioned how suicides get grouped into the gun violence stats which then groups into the violent crime stats in his other video.
Utah is one of the safest and low crime states in the country even with guns yet because if our low population and some suicides makes it seem like we are at war all the time when that is not true even for SLC which has problems but not terrible
Im surprised Memphis didn't make the cut
Why would he mention San Francisco and Chicago? Both cities are amazing places to live, even if they're not your cup of tea. San Francisco is going downhill a bit though. Hope they get their act (politically) together soon.
thats because the media lies about Chicago, nobodies moving and the crime has been the same for 30 years
Can't believe neither LA nor San Francisco made the list.
As a Bay Area Native, yes people are leaving. But people are still
Moving in. The housing prices are still climbing, more homes and condos are being built and while lots of business struggled during the pandemic, many are still going strong. Can’t speak to LA but San Francisco is busy. The biggest thing I notice is the lack of tourists now. The crime and homelessness has put people off traveling here it seems.
Flight from there probably peaked.
@@andraconstantin9459 As a 43 year resident, I sincerely hope you're mistaken.
The people who will suggest that this is cynical hyperbole on my part have no clue what a (relative) paradise SF was for the working and middle classes in 1980.
Or what kind of utter disdain daily confronts those people who still get their hands dirty (and bloody) for a living here today - the few who weren't run out of town on a rail during three successive waves of twenty something techie carpetbaggers, anyway.
Three and a half decades of relentlessly extractive venture capital monoculture has destroyed a once world class city, and chased off the very bedrock everyman milieu that was responsible for its rise in the first place.
As a % it never lost anything noticeable. Something like .3% but on absolute numbers its a cool higher headline number. But we have neighborhoods more populous than entire cities on this video list. Also most of the people coming in to california in general were almost double the national income. While those that left are at or below median incomes, obviously makes sense why they left.
@@chucksflavortrain I was in SF a month ago and I saw plenty of tourists.
Interesting view on Cleveland. I moved here from Cincinnati 6 years ago and love it here more. I never thought I’d be here this long but I truly enjoy my quality of life here.
As a KC resident, we are GROWING, not shrinking. I graduated from high school in the metro, and I had over 100 kids that came into my class that weren't there when I started.
but who tf gives a shit about KC
Agreed.. dude don't know what he's talking about
KC is not growing - in fact, it's population has leveled off and is maintaining at a steady pace. KC doesn't have the high tech or fortune 500 draw that other cities have - it will have to diversify it's core in order to attract more businesses or stay where it is.
There are probably two reasons the population peaked for these cities in 1950. Automation in the manufacturing industry started big time. Remember we use to be a labor-intensive work force. The second, AC which allowed expansion to the south and the big expansion to the west coast.
Yeah, and they have something else in common. What could it be? What could it be? Hmmmmm, oh yeah these cities are all run (very poorly) by democrats lol.
Third, many people move to the suburbs. Often, the city loses population, but the metro area does not.
Not to mention the Federal Highway Act happened in the 1950s which allowed people to easily commute to the city for work and live in the suburbs.
Metropolitan areas across the United States generally grow, while the cities and their core lose their tax base, not to mention that suburbs arent sustainable in their infrastructure because they want city wate, city sewer and city services while not having the same urban density.
Also keep in mind that around this time was the big push to the suburbs for the middle-class, post-World War II.
I am a Canadian who has traveled through 46 of the lower 48 states. One of the things I notice is how many building have been abandoned and left to rot. Companies and people just walk away and leave those structures behind. When you see them you begin to realize that the US has a cancer and it's growing rapidly. Abandoned buildings are a sign of that cancer. One of the largest abandoned buildings in Detroit is a post office. There isn't a single window left in it. The US Government, like so many others, just walked away and made it Detroit's problem. One way that would help some of these cities would be to force the owners of these buildings to either bring them up to grade or knock them down. This includes the building that the Government owns after seizing them for back taxes. When you get rid of these eyesores people will start to feel better about where the live and take more pride in their community. How can anyone possibly be happy to live next to what appears to be a garbage dump?
They would just quickly make all the profit they made "disappear" somewhere (safe) , & declare bankruptcy. Hard to get any new businesses start from fresh , if you imposed what you mentioned.
I agree
I 100% agree! Buildings are reused and renovated so much more often in (Western) Europe. They aren’t left to rot and become drug dens/safety hazards!
I am hesitant to rely on government programs to fix urban blight. Historically, they have been the source of our problems, not the solution. Try starting a business these days. It’s pure hell!
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Visited Pittsburgh recently and it is lovely! Lots of beautiful green spaces and reasonably priced houses. I think if some of these places offered stipends for remote workers they would attract a lot of professionals looking for relaxed living.
Yes, that would be a very good idea to help out the city. I've visited Pittsburgh many times and I enjoyed each time I was there.
Thanks. Good thanks. You always have the stuff the peeps want to be aware of
Surprise to no one.
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I moved out of Milwaukee 6 years ago. I lived downtown for about 12 years and never had much of a problem. Then the crime started moving in, and I got out. The crime is getting out of control.
Not only is the crime getting out of control - So are the taxes.
Former Milwaukeean here. I left in late 2018 in October and haven't looked back since. Where I am now, I'm much happier: Year-round warm to warmish-hot climate, attractions, beaches, and a good job now while shooting for a 2nd job hoping to come soon within the next month or so.🤞🏼 Weekday rush hour and weekend traffic is terrifying and horrifying, and that can be blamed on the shitty speed limits here, but once I've gotten past that, it basically is what it is and that's just something you have to accept.
I live in Milwaukee, and it breaks my heart seeing what goes on around here. It honestly has a lot of potential to be a really cool place :(
Milwaukee is really a great city, the crime has increased because as you all know crime and the ppl who commit crime are just off the chain everywhere also many ppl don’t realize that Milwaukee is only 90 minutes from Chicago and that is another problem/ Chicago transplants have been moving to Milwaukee on and off for the last 40 years and I m not talking about the career minded type- it’s been low-income section 8 gang member type families, and with that they bring their criminal behavior with them and of course crime increases with that- but overall Milwaukee is a great place to live we have great houses, freeway traffic is decent you can get anywhere in 15 minutes, ppl are still friendly and will say excuse me in a minute- our air quality is great, we have great suburbs with some really good schools, it’s still a great place to raise children and our water quality is awesome. We also have a beautiful Lake Michigan that is so refreshing especially in the summertime and it’s not too over populated- Milwaukee a great hidden gem 💎
I graduated Parkside 1979 in May and moved to Texas one week later with a stop in California. Now I live in Asia. Low crime, no race counting, sensible government, friendly people. Did I say friendly people? Beautiful beaches, coconuts, palm trees, with only downside of typhoons, earthquakes, volcanos, but that's okay because no place is perfect.
Amazing. Thx for the facts and for putting this together and posting it.
Waaaw guys you did your homework...no doubts about that. Thanks for the eyeopen3r here!!!great report
My dad was born in St. Paul, but lived most of his life in Chicago. In 1973 he moved to Minneapolis. I remained in Chicago because I had a good job there, but I would drive up to see him every few months, and fell in love with that city. He lived in a nice neighborhood near Lake Calhoun, and I often thought of relocating there myself.
I eventually got out of Chicago, but I'm so glad that Minneapolis wasn't the place that I decided to move to.
Where do you live now?
The area by Lake Calhoun is too close to the Uptown problem that started with George Floyd
@@KC-dr3cg In 1973 the areas surrounding the lake were all beautiful, clean and quiet neighborhoods.
minne is such a downgrade in weather compared to chi!! i’m from chicago too and everyone left to go south!
@@anna4660the weather is pretty much the same. Chicago winter blows!
Glad you brought up Cleveland’s infrastructure problem - doesn’t get much attention but is a serious issue. Most homes in the city are about 100 years old, and the majority of Cleveland is broke so many houses are rotting with residents in them
File the reports.
They have a rail system. The city of Columbus doesn't even have one so there's that.
Look at these beautiful homes on the water,
Usually a home on the water or canal are a fortune,
I was so sad to see ( not on this list) San Fransisco,I was there in the 80s ,I couldn't believe seeing the state of it on you tube,
I had always wanted to visit there again,
Why would the councillors just sit back and watch it fall around them,
@@justinedse8435Clevelander here, Cleveland has some things that the rest of Ohio doesn't have. A metro system which is pretty important for a city. Our airport is getting flights to Europe. CLE has potential but it definitely needs better leadership.
This narrator is an uninformed nasty sob. I don't know why he even makes videos. This one was mostly negative. It's like he has an aversion to saying anything nice about the cities on the list. His voice was obnoxious as hell also.
In 1975 as a new employee, I asked a coworker why we had Cleveland Telephone Books in our office? His answer was our company closed its Cleveland Office as it was losing money. All the work stuff from Cleveland was moved elsewhere.
Don’t toss them as you won’t be getting another one
Should update the list with Portland, Seattle and CHICAGO
None of those cities are dying.
It’s dying cities, not cities you personally don’t like.
As a person who likes to travel and study trends heres something i’ve noticed in the past few years, heres where people from specific states are moving to in large numbers:
New York➡️Florida
California➡️Texas
California➡️Idaho
Ohio➡️South Carolina
Florida➡️Colorado
Illinois➡️Tennessee
Illinois➡️Florida
Louisiana➡️Texas
Massachusetts ➡️ New Hampshire & Maine
Florida↔️Florida
@@casanovafrankenstein8538 😂
@@CloverPickingHarp Hmm I wonder why? Mass. is a pretty nice place besides taxes, looking for more peace and quiet maybe?
Also Massachusetts moving down here in Florida too. So many people moving here its insane , we have about 8-10 of some of the fastesst growing cities in the USA right now. Traffic gets worse every year, we already see this. Hope it slows down, im trying to be able to afford a house in my own home-state that isnt in the middle of a farm town or some raggedy area
A couple of reasons why the 1950 census peaked the rust belt cities were twofold: 1) WWII ended in 1945 and by '47 most GIs were home. GIs got skilled manufacturing jobs in those cities. Three years of making babies, the Boomer generation was counted in 1950. Crime was not an issue. 2) Serious decline began in ernest when manufacturing jobs got shipped overseas. (Politics also killed these rust belt cities.) And that's when the down cyclical pattern you mentioned continues to this day.
Thank you I agree
Manufacturers seemed to think it is okay to export jobs and whole factories and continue to sell the same goods and services to the same towns that they just plundered and abandoned.That won't be happening much longer.
Well now (Sept 2023) you could add San Francisco to that list. It is definitely going downhill fast. Major corporations are leaving, including tech. Crime has spread from just the sketchy areas, to just about every place in the city. Same with homeless encampments. Real estate values are about to crash---commercial/office real estate is already down by over 50%. Over half of the people say that they want to leave.
So long as the state's GDP remains number 1 in the country SF will just keep attracting people with higher education and higher salaries to afford what others cannot. We keep talking about how many people are leaving CA yet, fail to acknowledge the number of people that moved to CA in the same year. cities like LA, San Diego and SF are still considerd "desirable" cities due to their diversity, fortune 500 presence and location.
Unfortunately, the gentrification of these lead cities are simply pushing out residents that can no longer afford to live there.
I will have to move away from Pittsburgh soon for work and wow its a bummer. Easily the safest city I have ever lived in.
Interstate highway construction also contributed to core city population declines. Look at metro area populations and they have grown or held steady. People moved to the suburbs when interstates shortened the commutes.
Baltimore is actually really nice. The bad parts are really bad but definitely not a reflection of what’s going on here. There’s so many new buildings and gentrification going on.
Dayton, Ohio (not on the list) is making a comeback!! When I was in Dayton between 2016 and 2021, downtown is starting to hop again.
There is a lot of good things happening downtown, the new townhomes on Monument, the renewal of the fireblocks area, the new lofts St. Clair and Delco the renovation of the arcade and the restoration of the high rise at 4th and Ludlow.
Being born, raised, and lived in Cincinnati for most of my life… I’m not surprised that my home city is on this list. Fortunately, I moved to Sioux Falls, SD to be closer to my kid and grandkids and couldn’t be happier!!
If you were really from Cincinnati, you would call it 'Cincinahna.'
What happened to Gateway computers. Obviously their business was eclipsed by Dell and the internet... but the techies who built PCs there didn’t all move did they?
@@tommak6516 That's how my five year old pronounces it.
@@randymillhouse791 Many people that live there pronounce it like that, especially those with southern accents. Does your five year old have a southern accent?
@@tommak6516 No, he has a PhD.
Actually, people ARE moving into Detroit, but the downtown district. There are numerous high-rise swanky condo/ apts going up, and many are sold or rented before the buildings are finished. The city has a ways to go but deserves props for the
MANY good projects going on in and on the out skirts of downtown.
😂😂whatever man, humans don't live 1000 years. I heard the old " people are moving into Detroit crap" in 2007....was there last summer, some new buildings, but no critical mass towards success, plenty of overgrown lots still, and lots of abandoned buildings to tear down still
@@pavelow235 As someone who lives in midtown I can say your wrong. The city has had a influx of outsiders moving in because its cheap to live here. A lot of people from other cities like NYC and Pittsburgh have been coming in and buying property because cost expenses are much higher in other bigger cities. Detroit is very empty but the crime is really over blown
@@tayrulez Yep and you just make up your own definition of "successful" no point in discussion than. FYI, my definition of a "successful" city is comparing a city to other cities worldwide, quality of life, crime rate, quality of healthcare....etc, etc, etc....and Detroit is not in anyway whatsoever climbing the chain of more successful cities.....more precisely if Detroit is indeed rising as you describe, the other cities are RISING FASTER....🤷♂🤷♂
@@pavelow235 I didn't say it was successful lol i said its improving compared to other cities in the USA. It isn't a Chicago or NYC but its a solid city with a better surrounding area. The US in general is lacking compared to the outside world just look at how most US cities are developed, most are all dependent on driving. But Detroit is in a much better state than it was in 2008 but in no way did I say its a success right now it just has a lot of potential still. But its still got another 10 years atleast but at its current state its nice but empty.
@@tayrulez They won’t understand because They are so bias against the city of Detroit. It’s basically a meme to make fun of Detroit. I can agree that Detroit has made a lot of progress since the early late 2000s. Population still declining but I can see somewhere in the future that reversing.
I'm a Cleveland native and returned after traveling the world. Currently I live closer to Toledo, but spend about 10 days a month in the Cleveland area. It's very nice. Never had any issues with crime. The people are great. Downtown, the Flats and near West Side suburbs are trendy. Outlying suburbs are building up and very safe for families. I travel quite a bit and prefer Cleveland over many other cities. So much for stats.
We all know that stats lie and are skewed
Sounds like you're due to become a stat. Good luck.
Cleveland is terrible. Instead of the 10 try staying an extra 5 days. I live in Cleveland daily and it’s hell.
Cleveland is a declining dying garbage dump of a city. It’s outer ring suburbs are building up into more urban communities because people want walkability and things close by but without Cleveland’s urban decay and violent crime. You would be better off spending your time in Toledo since it is starting to turn itself around.
Naw bruh crime in Cleveland is going crazy. Places that used to be suburbs get worse every year. Maple heights, Euclid, Warrensville, pretty much any city with heights attached to it is getting wild.
Cincinnati is a very nice town. I live downtown and moved here 2 years ago after living in San Francisco for 30 years. Every town has problems. But I find the people here to be above average friendly and that counts for a lot.
Here was my response to this video. Look up Pburgh and then Cbus city boundary size. "This list is laughable. Some of these cities have extremely small city boundaries that make comparing peers unfair. Case in point, look up city boundaries of Houston, and Columbus and then say compare that to Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. Seriously, just look. It almost makes this entire video a joke."
The problem with Baltimore and most east coast towns is that the living is dense and there are too many ppl struggling in close proximity to each other
Baltimore is fine I live here. It’s flourishing.
@@robertlenning332 and I respect your opinion, but Baltimore in my opinion is a crime riddled city with a terrible mayor and a corrupt government and with that being said, it’s not a good place to raise children and the schools are terrible, just my opinion
Baltimore and the surrounding areas are full of miserable people. I rather live in the south than here
Nonsense. I have lived in Philadelphia and New Jersey for 40 something years. Population density doesn’t mean anything. It’s poverty and lack of opportunity.
@@alisarumrum2062 America in general is behind, schools are gd awful everywhere. The USA is so far behind everybody.
Always a great day when Briggs uploads a new video
Thanks
@Derek Ray Facts, dude. And I find that to be a blessing.
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Yeah, got my Briggs fix today, I'll be alright now.
@@nicolejennings8389 Yup, been here 13 years now after 6 other states I've been happiest here.
Mmmmm..perfect timing 😊
Fascinating insights! Understanding migration patterns sheds light on societal dynamics. Thanks for sharing this valuable information.
I'm surprised Chicago wasn't on the list. People say it's a dangerous city and never to go there
It is only the south side that is dangerous the rest of Chicago is prosperous and booming. Don’t listen to paranoid scardy cats.
Depends on where you go or what you do. Southside?... Yes, but the rest of Chicago is pretty nice.
Every city has its BS, so don't allow that to steer you away
I am leaving Milwaukee in one month and I cannot be happier
Originally from Metro Detroit. Makes me sad what the city of Detroit has become over the years. Not just Detroit , but also places like Dearborn , Dearborn Heights , Inkster , Westland have become. I do sort of miss it there , but I can’t see ever going back. Too many changes , and not for the better.
I'm from Westland, the city has indeed become a lot worse over the past few years.
Born and raised in so cal and i finally left in April of 2020 to arkansas. Life has been better ever since.
Detroit has made significant progress in both economy and quality living. Job opportunities are relatively better than that of other cities mentioned in this video such as buffalo due to its automobile industry. The surrounding suburbs of detroit such as Ferndale and Royal oak are pretty good places to raise a family.
As long as Michigan allows the Insurance Industry to use business practices used by organized crime, there’s no hope of Michigan cities overcoming blight.
Michigan is trash
I agree Detroit is pretty underrated, slowly making a comeback
Yall need to buy up Detroit.
Detroit is hella underrated. That's why the people never leave. They have probably top 10 best suburbs in America. Their metro area is almost 4 Million people. By far the biggest population area on the list you'd think. If you want out of Detroit a few years. Just live 25 outside of it.
I'm a Milwaukee resident, and it really makes me sad seeing what a mess the city is with all the crime. It's honestly a really cool city with a lot of potential, and I would really like to see things turn around for it.
Then again, Madison is also on a downward spiral given there's rising crime happening here.
The first thing to do is vote out every elected official and replace them with competent people. Milwaukee is a corrupt mess.
Need some fresh ideas to revitalize Milwaukee? Kick your lib+ards to the curb and vote conservative. The last time you had a republican mayor was 1949, isn't it about time for a change?
Crime rising means one thing desperation do to capitalism
I grew up there in the 70's and 80's. Actually a good place to grow up. It is a great city with a lot to offer.
I've lived in two of the cities mentioned here; Buffalo and Kansas City. He's spot on in his description of both.
Great! More space in the Twin Cities for me and my family when we move there next year.
Been living in NOLA for 10 months…And for those wanting to move here: DON’T🛑✋🏼Looking forward to moving back to Braselton GA soon🙏🏼
You get what you tolerate, go soft on crime you get more of it....
So Republican states are soft on crime? It's almost as if law enforcement is a bandaid, and the root cause of crime is actually related to poverty.
Thanks!
Thank you.
HelL.A., Portland, and Seattle will be added to the list next, no doubt.
I'm in heaven in a small town in the USA.
A lot of U.S. cities peaked in 1950 and then shrank due to the flight to the newfangled suburbs. The the construction of highways to facilitate quicker commutes locked in the trend. Work downtown but skidaddle out of there at quitting time. Bigger houses, lots and yards. And two car garages!
Oh bull! Portland, LA, San Francisco, Chicago and NY are definitely in the top 10!
Would love a “city to move to if you are a first time homebuyer and looking to leave a high cost of living place”
You’ve kinda done it before, but city specific and updated.
Love watching your stuff.
Yes
Second this.
I would love this too!
Nick Johnson rate’s Greenville SC pretty high.
He kinda did in this video. Look into the real estate in one of the cities he mentioned.
Got out of St. Louis last March! So glad about it!😁
I live in FL. I can say this list tracks because I know so many people originally from those cities. I hope they don't bring the crime with them.
Chicago needs to be on this list
When your grandpa utters the phrase "there goes the neighborhood" ... it's probably a good time to move - WW
depends on the grandpa hopefully its not because the colors are moving in 😂
@@terejosh13 colorEDs!
I grew up in Toronto and when the opportunity to leave came, I jumped for it.
Hi Briggs. Thanks for the video. I'm here for the narration as well as the info and you always come through. Have a great day.
Just moved to Cincinnati 4 months ago and tbh it really seems to be on the up and up. Of course it has its areas that you probably dont want to be and maybe more than most cities but theyre also really easy to avoid. I expected it to be a place i stay for a few years before moving on but honestly i love it here. At least compared to where i was before cincinnati is an amazing place to be. I do however recommend living here for a bit to learn the area before buying a home
Everyone I have ever met from Cincinnati loves it there! Seriously, every one without exception.
Cincinnati is awesome. I've been here 8 years and don't want to move. I've lived all over the country, and the quality of life in the Queen City is exceptional.
Ahh I was looking for a Cincy comment! I’ve been considering moving there. And the few times I’ve been, everybody was so nice 😊
I’ve been in Cincinnati for a long time now. I’m originally from Toronto, Canada. I’ve traveled to a few other states before and a couple other countries abroad; from my point of view Cincinnati is absolutely BORING. There’s nothing here, there’s not much to do, not many places to go. Even the locals I’ve talked to agree with all that. It is just extremely BORING IN CINCINNATI. I’m planning to move to Dallas, TX where they actually have more than enough of everything. The jobs and pay in cincy is terrible, so many people are suffering. Not only are people moving out of cities, millions have been moving OUT OF THE U.S in the past few years.
@dee-exotica well yeah it's boring and seems like pay is low to you, you came from Toronto. I came from bumfuck west virginia. Also cincinnati has just about anything you could think of to do, aside from a beach or an nba team. It's a great little city
As someone from Cleveland I'd say this is true
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Left Milwaukee 20 years ago, never looked back.
Really surprised Memphis didn’t make this list. We’re doing better than I thought.
I love your sense of humor
I appreciate the Kiss reference!!
I live in Louisville Kentucky, about an hour and a half down river from Cincinnati. I fell out laughin when he said, "Cincinnati is where you move when you can't afford Columbus and Cleveland scares you"
My Great grandmother came from Cincinnati Ohio I can imagine the changes that have taken place since then!!
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You know it's gonna be good when Detroit is selected for the thumbnail
not if your from detroit because its constantly bashing your hometown
@@anakinskyogre1037 from metro Detroit, born and raised. I pray for the best but I doubt it will get better any time in the near future.
So everyone is leaving the Midwest is what I’m getting from this.
As a Canadian I visited Baltimore and DC last year. I Loved Baltimore, the harbour area especially. City has so much character and history. Going to Buffalo this year and hopefully Boston next.
Bmore food is good. But taxes are crazy and crime is horrible. Bmore used to be amazing with the defense companies but they moved to DC and VA
@beats4life971 it definitely has that side to it, but I loved what I saw. Even an orioles fan now after watching a game at camden yards. I was super surprised how much I liked it. Funny enough me and my gf are just in the middle of watching the show The Wire.
@@channing76 they are winning now. 🙌 all those years of losing.
Ye I hit 🎯 right on the target
Between 1950 and 2023 there was a HUGE movement out of cities. In 2022, 55% of people are suburban, only 25% urban.. That big change started in the 1950s with the post-WW2 car culture in the US. Different cities were affected differently, but it is not caused by specific problems in individual cities. In 1950 there were no supermarkets. US society has changed.
That huge movement was primarily in the older northern very dense cities as the middle class wanted more living space and more freedom of movement which is something most of these older cities of the Northeast and the industrial Midwest could not offer. So the suburbs were it and they took off in rapid growth.
@@r.pres.4121 A lot of it was racism too; that's a big part of why the suburbs became so universal in our country.
@@emlmm88 It was much more classism which UNlike racism is logical and justified. People who can escape poverty have had residences away from the city at least since ancient Romans bough villas to get some time away from Rome. No one sane wants to live among poors, especially other poors so when people succeed economically they escape. For example there is nothing in NYC that isn't much better in a suburb of quality so since the 1800s when light rail transport enabled escape the New Jersey and other suburbs grew as fast as Americans could afford to move there. City life is inherently EXPENSIVE, LIMITING and stressful. One must be rich to afford decent urban property.
I was born in KC, grew up in Baltimore, moved to Cleveland, then went to college in Fairfield IA. That town keeps growing
Looking forward to seeing Florida join this list in the near future.
Notice all of the 10 cities are basically in the so called "rust belt" of America, and the common denominator is they were the giants of heavy industry starting from the late 1800's until the mid to late 1960's. A great number of their former populations were migrants from the southern states and rural areas during the WWII retooling of consumer goods factories to the military war effort. I was born & raised in Cleveland and about time I graduated from high school in 1981, the majority of those decent paying factory jobs had relocated to the southern states, Mexico and overseas. The next plague came in the mid 1980's as the crack epidemic abruptly decimated individuals, families and neighborhoods. Cleveland never recovered. I left in 1996 and have only returned to visit family. As a former truck driver i have worked every city mentioned and can attest that they all have suffered significantly from the same circumstances. There are other towns not mentioned that were smaller and harder hit like Youngstown, Ohio, Flint-Saginaw, MI, and many outlying communities surrounding all the cities mentioned in the video. In my opinion they'll never recover and will remain a fraction of their industrial apex. America's reign as an industrial powerhouse was over in the late seventies and has become a consumer and service nation that has nothing much to offer save its military and that's even waning. Seven years, nine months, five days and two deployments with an honorable leads me to this assessment. America has seen its better days, like people like to see the skyline of my hometown (Cleveland) in their rearview mirrors.
It only came to an end because they chose for it to end. Unions also don't help.
They’d need to bring new jobs back in tech and even then, no one wants to live there now especially the way it looks so old and run down. Most are going back south now. Reverse migration.
Mostly yes, but Minneapolis is defintely not in the Rust Belt.
I'm surprised Chicago didn't make this list.
Just like KC and Houston it's making a come back
Because thousands of latinos are coming here after they cross the border illegally. Just check the demographics of Chicago and you'll understand. Ghetto is also growing like a cancer
@@VegitoBlue202 Chicago is NOT making a comeback. What are you talking about. I live in Minneapolis and every day people from Chicago flock here in the thousands
love the videos. very informative. thanks much.
I just love how he says why does anyone live there. Like if the people that live there have a choice.
One reason Detroit population peaked in 1950s is geography in conjunction with Interstate Highway System. Detroit and SE Michigan is bounded by water and that water is international waters. Other large Midwestern cities have interstate ring roads for pass thru traffic. That wasn't possible in Detroit. There sre 3 interstates that meet downtown (94, 75, 96) plus other non-interstate freeways. My father's family lost their home to eminent domain in early 1950s in order to build Interstate 94. As such large swaths of land and many neighborhoods were torn down to make these highways. Also there was then little land left over for new factories and office buildings. For example, GM Tech Center had to be built outside of Detroit in 1950s in neighboring city of Warren. Thus the tax base transferred outside the City of Detroit. I'm not disputing your video, but you give no historical context to any of these 10 cities. You don't give a larger perspective of entire metro regions. For example, Detroit and 60+ suburbs in Wayne, Macomb and Oakland counties. If you compare metro areas and regional economies as a whole, for example 4.5 million people versus about 600,000+ people for central city, the videos would be more informative and helpful. But it's easier just to focus on central cities in a vacuum for click-bait videos.
Shocked that San Francisco & Chicago did not make your list.
Should add Portland, OR to this list. I’ve lived here off and on for the last 25 years & I’ve never heard of so many people planning to leave.
Business as well. I’ve never witnessed a city at the beginning of the end but Portland is one for sure.
Portland's crime rate is not even in the same ballpark as these places mentioned, yet the perceived notion that Portland is a violent place keeps many people away. It definitely has a homeless problem and an uptick in crime but it is still way less violent than it is perceived.
Lolol, meanwhile homes in PTown still sell like hot cakes for 600k. 😂😂
This whole Portland narrative is so, so, so overblown is sad. It is literally NOTHING like any of the cities mentioned.
That's sad
Some businesses have left, yes, like Standard Insurance. But who likes insurance companies anyway? While people are leaving, there still are plenty of good things here. Just don't go downtown unless you need to.
Portland has problems like any big city but it's mostly in the downtown space. I moved here summer 2000. I've lived in SW, inner NE, north and now SE Portland. It's been good. Housing including rent is expensive. Likely the main reason people would leave the city. Crime is a definite concern. The entire metro area is expensive. I'm not trying to dismiss the problems but most of Portland is just fine and there is a lot of good here. Portland will remain a generally healthy city. Those who are most negative about Portland probably include lots of Republicans. It's a blue city.
Hey Brig's love your show. Can you please make one about Miami FL
I loved your video and I always love watching videos about different city statistics. I am really surprised Pittsburgh was on this list! I understand the population has declined due to the pandemic as well as people wanting to try other places. Pittsburgh is one of the best cities I have ever been to. I go there all the time and the city is clean, the crime is low in the downtown district. There are definitely areas of Pittsburgh that you want to stay out of but most of downtown is actually very safe and is super vibrant with plenty of shops and restaurants to walk around. Pittsburgh is also home to one of the best city skylines in the world! The three rivers are filled with new activities such as tubing and boat tours. The city was once a dirty disgusting area with the steel mills, but now the city is becoming one of the greenest in the country! The rivers have been cleaned up tremendously and the culture is super diverse with tons of different types of food to try! I am confused to why you said Pittsburgh does not attract job opportunities. Pittsburgh is also one of the best cities in the country for offering jobs to young people and offering housing with the affordable economy. I think tourists are realizing how underrated Pittsburgh really is and how it is actually one of the best cities to live and visit in the country. The sports are great and the downtown area makes a great place to bike, run, and enjoy a nice evening. It is a shame that Pittsburgh Intl Airport lost its hub, but the new 2025 Pittsburgh airport will give tourists a thumbs up for the city. I am deeply confused to why this city was on this list, but I enjoyed the video. Thanks!
As a Clevelander I will second what you are saying. Was very surprised PIT ended up on this list; I love visiting. The downtown area is always clean, we found amazing beer and the people are very nice (as long as it isnt't a browns/steelers Sunday). I think unfortunately northern cities will never have the draw southern, younger cities have.
I love Pittsburgh. It is unique. Of course I dont live there but these vids skew things. I love visiting and its Skyline views from Mt Washington are the best views in any city I have been to. History, Museums, Sports, Food.....it is awesome.
I hate Pittsburgh. It’s high in crime. I know so many people who died here from gun violence. The ppl where I live in west Mifflin are extremely racist. I’m one of the only black people around here and they treat me horrible. I would not recommend Pittsburgh for black families.
@@viviandarkbloom100 Pittsburgh is One of the most friendly cities I've been in as well!💯 Now if you ever want to see an unfriendly city, Seattle Washington could be a top contender for that arena these days! Never seen so many miserable people on a daily basis, in my entire life! Say hello to most of them and they roll their eyes at you Seattle is definitely a city in full decay!🤮
Here was my response to this video. Look up Pburgh and then Cbus city boundary size. "This list is laughable. Some of these cities have extremely small city boundaries that make comparing peers unfair. Case in point, look up city boundaries of Houston, and Columbus and then say compare that to Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. Seriously, just look. It almost makes this entire video a joke."
The trend for the big cities losing population started in the 1950s it seems. Some of this trend can be attributed to families moving into the suburbs.
You mean white flight
Because whites did not want to live with African American families that were starting to gain wealth, so they moved into the suburbs and then started red lining the cities.
@@JamesJohnson-ir8qs something wrong with that?
@@JamesJohnson-ir8qs what you call white flight was caused by corporate plan. Divided families by forcing relocation. I'm 5 miles from downtown Pittsburgh PA & woke up this morning to my cars back window & my dining room window shot out. It's a hate crime in my opinion but I'm white & all my black neighbors enjoy calling me cracker etc. The popo say there's no evidence so I should sit here & let them shoot me too. It's OK I'm 75yo, a widow and my 16yo dog died leaving me utterly alone. My daughter won't help me get another dog bc "it will just die"
Happy mother's day
It was called white flight my friend. The reverse is happening. Suburbanites=gentrification once again moving people of color to the outskirts.
I actually expected Chicago to be on the list.
L.A. and S.F. too.
So great
Surprised Memphis and New Orleans aren’t on the list
There are two factors to consider before predicting a decline of Kansas City: 1) how much undeveloped and underdeveloped land is within the city limits, 2) the school systems that cover the city. The city encompasses 319 square miles, and much of that north of the Missouri River and southeast of Independence is only now starting to be developed. Kansas City is building its own captive suburbs and has room to add at least 20k-30k new single family homes in the next 10-20 years. The KCMO school district has had rough times for years but doesn’t cover the “Northland” (everything north of the River); the school districts up north are generally good and crime is much lower. For the KC metro area when you’re talking about high crime you’re mainly talking about KC’s East Side & the Hickman Mills area - the Northland and far southern neighborhoods aren’t bad. Downtown is having a continued renaissance and many of the suburbs are some of the nicest in the country. We do need to do a better job of attracting & keeping young people but we have a generally good, diversified economy (not decimated like STL or Cleveland) and we are more affordable than the hot “it” cities like Austin, Denver & Nashville. You can actually afford to buy a home & raise a family here!
Coca-Cola and Panasonic breaking ground or coming to the metro
@@ItsOva417 that's what I'm talking about with metro KC. Unlike a few others on the list the city and metro population isn't shrinking, its growing and the metro economy is fairly good. There isn't a mass exodus of people moving south and west like you see in Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, etc. People are moving farther out into the suburbs to get away from crime, but they aren't leaving the KC metro area in huge numbers. I think Minneapolis is going through the same thing - crime and some other factors are causing people to move farther out into the suburbs but the Twin Cities Metro Area seems fairly stable. Milwaukee seems to be the same - crime in the urban center driving people further into the burbs. Metro St. Louis has been flat to negative growth, and there is just a different atmosphere there compared to Kansas City. But its not the same as California, the Chicagoland/northern Illinois, New York or the New England states where large numbers are moving out to escape crime, high taxes and deteriorating infrastructure and conditions. Honestly, "city of" statistics are interesting and have their place but it's always wise to look at metro statistics to know how an area is really doing; people vote with their feet and often its a move of 5 miles rather than 500.
At least the people there are friendly.
Kansas City is gonna be like Atlanta
Rapid growth in the suburbs and stagnate growth in the city
KC and Atlanta is similar in that
I doing see KC losing people tbh
@@erikberg8098 I'm movin from the south to Kansas City
It's expensive down here and the climate sucks
I used to commute to Detroit in the 1990's to 2000. I feel safer there than in Portland, Oregon, where I live close to now. The city is so sprawled out and the older homes are so large it's easier/cost effective to tear down and start afresh. It has been going through a tear down/rebuild in many neighborhoods - it will just take a bit more time. Everytime I travel back I am impressed with all the improvements - especially around Henry Ford Hospital where I used to work. I wouldn't live in the city (I am a country girl who likes horses and chickens around) so I had to commute over 30 miles to work one way.
I moved from Portland Oregon to the Midwest and extremely happier
I spent 5 years living there. I was up Jefferson just past the Belle Isle Bridge and right before Grosse Pointe. I still work for the a company out of the city, but once the pandemic hit I found myself moving back to Missouri where my family is located. Having said that .. I love Detroit.
@@vicek6271 My husband and I will most likely move back to the Carolinas when my daughter finishes HS. She can't handle the humidity (I hate it too, but I will manage).
why is Portland so unsafe? genuinely curious, what caused the crime increase in your opinion?
@@BogartWestern There has been a spike in homicides since 2020/ Covid. But it's decreasing a little now, and Portland is still one of the safer cities in the US. Visible homelessness gives an impression of an unsafe city in a few neighborhoods, and while there is a lot of property crime (auto theft especially) there isn't a high violent crime rate here. The city is hiring lots of police right now, and expanding Portland Street Response which started a couple years ago dispatching social service workers to 911 calls that don't need a police response.
Memphis, TN should be on this list! I have lived in Memphis for almost 40 years and it has steadily gone downhill!
To be honest it's pretty easy to figure out why certain cities in the US struggle so much with drugs and corruption. Alot of these cities on this list sit on major highways that connect both East/West and North/South. I've lived in Baltimore my whole life and being a port city with both I-70 and I-95 creates a major hub for drugs. Same goes for St. Louis which sits on the Mississippi and is a connecting point for Chicago and other midwest cities.
Always Great As Usual
As a metro-Buffalo resident it's not so much the crime rate driving people away, it is instead the high NY taxes and the bail reform laws. Do a crime and don't worry about doing the time. Now by law, new buildings are not allowed to have gas stoves installed.
Also surprised Chicago didn't make the list!
I first saw Baltimore when I was six years old and we moved from New Jersey to Crofton (in Anne Arundel County, 15 min due west of Annapolis), and... there's no change. As an old boss used to say "if you're not moving forward, you're moving backwards). They have added the Inner Harbor and Camden Yards (two stadiums) to no overall visible difference. It's still dirty and a classless place to live. The 'burbs do not rate as highly the 'burbs in the DC metro area - I lived just off of 40 West for a bit a few years ago.
Briggs I go to Buffalo New York a lot for concerts etc. and I have never felt unsafe. Never! I don’t know where you’re getting your statistics but I love that city. People are awesome. You say they’re rude, just because they tell it like it is like a lot of New Yorkers, you can’t handle it because in California people are kind of like, go with the flow, don’t rock the boat. Well, it’s one of the most down to earth city with real people. Real not phonies like in California
This couldnt be more accurate his idea of Buffalo is of how it was in 2000. Blo now is growing, lowered crime, if you applied for 1 job here youd get 3! Very dated take along with being the city of good neighbors and plenty to do. He has family in Bflo and just hates on it cuz it gets cold in the winter. news flash so does everywhere else thats on the east coast lmao. Its 90's here in the summer lolll
I agree with you sir, but I also remember all the folks from back east moving here., California used to be a conservative state.
Buffalo has zero crime. When you’re able to say “the shooting” and everyone knows which one you’re talking about, that means there’s no crime.
It the certain areas in city of Buffalo that has high crime rate and we the third poorest big city in America. There is some progress happening here but it moving slow.
@@mrbear716 Believe it or not Buffalo doesn't make the list anymore for poorest major cities, besides from a few years ago and beyond. If thats not progress idk what is, its been said in one of mayor's press conferences too
This is crazy! Living in the west, all I've seen is population increase in every city. It is strange for me to hear about places sometimes halving their population since 1950!
With the transition of populations from the downtown corridors to rural neighborhoods and the boom of highway/interstate use since the 1950s, this actually doesn't surprise me. People don't need to live downtown to work downtown, so they move to surrounding neighborhoods and commute to/from work. I'd be interested to see this list done with metro areas instead of just the cities themselves.
That's where a lot of that population came from.
I wouldn’t get to cocky, California has been losing population since 2019. And Portland is starting to look worse than Detroit. At least Detroit is making some kind of a comeback.
Btw, it’s the south (mainly Florida and Texas) that’s currently on the rise.
I wish a more informed and far less greedy voter would move to Florida and Texas.
@@tylerkriesel8590::: Lol, Portland is NOTHING like Detroit. It's like 4 totally blocks, then everyone else is running around to their 650k moderate homes. 😅
Haha. I love the opening
Many, many cities in the USA are crime ridden and so mismanaged. How very sad. It will take decades for any of these cities to ever recover and come back. But it is possible these cities may just keep falling into the pit of hell. How far our once great country has fallen! 😢
Stop voting democrap
Glad Las Vegas isn't on the list, I am planning to move there next year.
Having been to Baltimore before, I can attest to seeing the reasons why people want to leave
I know many people are starting to leave Fayetteville, Arkansas, including myself. It’s getting way too overcrowded and expensive.
OMG! I love Scott Baio
Thanks Briggs, you are the best ❤ Great updates.