I mean, unless you already have good mechanics, that's your very ticket to bronze or even iron. I've lost over 100 games in a row (if we exclude auto-winned ones) before starting making some positive impact, because i suck at qiyana
I agree, this applies to bronze and Iron as well. From experience with my clients what I have seen is that till High Plat mechanical Issues with Qiyana specifically are the Nr. 1 Reason why they are stuck and this is at the same time the easiest thing to fix in my Opinion.
tiamat gives 0 bonus ad (20 ad which is the two long sword) and the active/passive isnt that game changer, pickaxe gives 25ad bonus for the same price which buff q aa r and e damage
The stats are better as Blankpag said, Tiamat can be good if proking electro is hard because of enemy stealth or mobility because you can E Tiamat Q or if its a prio heavy Matchup where you need to heavy contest. Overall I would say brutalizer is the better choice because of stats.
Yes totally, Opportunity is great especially because it got buffed. You basically have to decide between the additional lehtality and MS from Opportunity, compared to the Active of Youmus plus bonus MS out of combat. Its personal prefernce.
why did you build youmuu's instead of opportunity? i don't know which one to build so I usually go for opportunity because it gives more lethality. is there a reason you went youmuu's?
It's personal preference. Youmus makes it easier to roam around the map and get onto carries because of the movement speed and opportunity gives you slightly more damage.
Just drag your focus to the enemy adc mid and play for sidelanes also kill waves that way the enemy tank can't split push and since your in Gras they can't kill either.
Yes of course! Hubris is a great Item stat wise, It's just more expensive compared to Youmus/Opportunity and also only good if you are snowballing already.
at 4:38 u said you have to get really clean at cancelling ur aa animations; how do u do this exactly in that situation? I usually can do it once i get my hydra and use the passive to aa cancel, but im unsure how you mean to do it before then
If you watch closely I used AA E Q. You can do the EQ in the middle of your autoattack animation to cancel it but still get the damage through. That way you safe some time and the combo is faster.
@@EdoQiyana ahhh ok thats what i thought thanks, i havent played this game in a minute , i have the muscle memory still but i dont know what im consciously doing lol
How did you decide not to gank top/bot during laning after you realise you're ahead of Yone? As a new midlaner, I almost always throw my lead when I leave lane or my team flames me for being afk mid. Thank you!
you have to ignore your team and mute them right when the Game starts, the only thing you should be focused on is your own Improvement and Gameplay. I influenced the Map a lot even by not going bot and I did get a kill onto the Xerath. I decided not wasting too much time on roams and getting many high quality resets into Objectives is much better. You can also decide to go bot but I felt like with my Botlane that felt weak and them having ezreal E + Exhaust and Xerath E it will be very hard to do something.
@@EdoQiyana Awesome. I appreciate it. I'm a support main learning mid and your qiyana gameplay inspires me to learn the champ. Looking forward to more of your content. gg
The Champ that's more fun to you. Power Wise Qiyana is the strongest Assasin by far, if you don't enjoy her it doesnt make sense playing since you will run out of energy to play her really fast.
@EdoQiyana I play for a long time qiyana but I don't see my self being good at her nor improving at her I tried today zed and he feels way more strong and fun so idk if I should continue with qiyana or become an otp zed
Play the Champion you enjoy most, don't depend that on your succes with the champion. If you really put your mind to it you can achieve anything, just keep working on yourself. Pick what you enjoy --> Get good at it it's that simple. If you need help with anything hit me a DM in discord I'm always happy helping you. (for free)
@@06lom1 You clearly don't get the point of the Video so let me elaborate. You see what I do different and I explain everything I do. Even if you only adjust 1 single thing I explained in this Video it is already helpful to you. You don't have to be Masters to climb out of your elo but you need to have the right mindset and approach when it comes to league and seeing your mistakes is the first step to it.
@@EdoQiyana i got the point. the problem is that such videos in 99% is a game from ahead. no games where your botlane is 1/8 at 10min. or your jungler afk farm while their did 3 successfull ganks on each lane. or their pick is just better in mid/late. or you play against fucking smurf that came here for some reasons and you cant even touch minions. you know, games, where you arent 10/0 200/20 and everything is going great and your mechanical skill is good enough to obliterate literally any opponent on your lane and avoid/doublekill if enemy jungler ganks because you are few divisions higher that your opponent. such videos is funny to see, but in therms of learning... well, ye. you explain what you do but silver player wont do the same. thats because they are in silver. if they could play like a master they wouldnt be in silver, right?
That doesnt make any sense, all I hear is my team this my team that. I sense 0 self reflection in the few words you typed. Also check the other comments and how much it actually helps people to watch me play in their elo. Assuming it doesnt help you doesnt mean its the same for everyone. Never a good Idea to reflect things that don't help you to the whole player base, thats not how it works. They are silver because they dont do what I do, if you were to compare your game to mine you would see so many difference that you can work on. I am not winning this much because my jungler or my botlane is better, I win because I am better and thats the only truth. Also I had many games in the past where my entire team ints even in Diamond and I manage to win so what you say might be right for this specific game but not at all for me generally, the luck is the same for everyone its just how good you are at improving yourself. Thats what makes you climb and as long as you keep the mindset you currently have you will be stuck forever.
Hey! It gives you aditional Ability Haste for your Basic Abilities which is great for utilizing you stealth (Grass W) a lot. Especially later on Qiyana always likes to use Gras into Gras permanently to find an Angle and get a nice Ult in Dragon/Baron Pit.
People are complaining about the "ethics" of "educational smirfing", but this is quite literally what our sorry silver/gold asses need, to compare ourselves. Just do the most dumb basic analysis: - if we take out all of your kills, red team would be winning. -The game took 30 minutes and your team was really tryharding to lose this game (a.k.a. teemo afk top). -You're a MS / GM player In my opinion, this probably means you need to play for 2 players or more, in terms of value/worthiness, which means you need to dominate every champion situation, giving Qiyana's playstyle of baiting and punishing. No other champion has this level of commitment* in my opinion. Maybe Im wrong.
This right here is exactly what I preach and what I try to implement with my clients as well. Teaching People to be good enough so they can make up for at least 2 Teammates that are feeding and then simply not inting and abusing enemy mistakes is already enough to have a 60-70% WR. This means you need to be very fluent with the Champion and that's basically what Riot designed it to be. A champion that scales with a Player's Skill mechanically and hollistically. Glad you see that!
You outplayed hard but seriously this game is the reason why qiyana is not the pick to get out of low elo, just pick a champ which can run down mid when your 20 kills ahead and force a end, you could have lost this game if your team decided not to listen to 1 of the 2 calls they actually followed.
Hey! I think Qiyana is a decent Champion to pick up at any rank. The Reasoning behind it is the following: She has very good and clear reference points meaning what you want to do in the Game can be understood easily. The only thing which is hard in that case is her Combos and skirmishes since there are endless possibilities of how you can play them. Summarizing I would say she is not the worst champion to pick up but also not the very best compared to more simple champions like ekko, naafiri etc. BUT the fun aspect is very relevant as well since the more fun you have the easier it is to out in the hours and work for it. And Qiyana is for most people the best and most fun champion to play. And for those reason I think she is one of the best chanpions to learn. Hope that makes sense :)
instructions unclear, i am bronze now
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wish you luck :)
I didn't expect to see you here:) , appreciate it 🙏
Thanks a lot you too!
I mean, unless you already have good mechanics, that's your very ticket to bronze or even iron. I've lost over 100 games in a row (if we exclude auto-winned ones) before starting making some positive impact, because i suck at qiyana
I agree, this applies to bronze and Iron as well.
From experience with my clients what I have seen is that till High Plat mechanical Issues with Qiyana specifically are the Nr. 1 Reason why they are stuck and this is at the same time the easiest thing to fix in my Opinion.
your videos helped me improve so much!
I am learning so much from watching this kind of commentating over your gameplay. I really enjoy this format.
More to come into the future, for now I am locked in on my ranked Journey.
Ahh new edo video!!!!!!!!!
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6:30 why brutalizer and not tiamat? (genuine question)
tiamat gives 0 bonus ad (20 ad which is the two long sword) and the active/passive isnt that game changer, pickaxe gives 25ad bonus for the same price which buff q aa r and e damage
The stats are better as Blankpag said, Tiamat can be good if proking electro is hard because of enemy stealth or mobility because you can E Tiamat Q or if its a prio heavy Matchup where you need to heavy contest. Overall I would say brutalizer is the better choice because of stats.
your spot on!
Bro, why don't you place this 1:15 ward closer to river, so you can control both enemy raptors and corridor to river?
It doesn't make a difference. I see Voli anyway and I know where he is going to path. If I place the ward at River I don't know where he is starting.
i build opportunity instead of youmus, is that okay or youmus is a better item for qiyana?
Yes totally, Opportunity is great especially because it got buffed.
You basically have to decide between the additional lehtality and MS from Opportunity, compared to the Active of Youmus plus bonus MS out of combat. Its personal prefernce.
why did you build youmuu's instead of opportunity? i don't know which one to build so I usually go for opportunity because it gives more lethality. is there a reason you went youmuu's?
It's personal preference. Youmus makes it easier to roam around the map and get onto carries because of the movement speed and opportunity gives you slightly more damage.
@@EdoQiyana makes sense, thank you bro
No worries mate.
qiyana is a good carry but for me it gets harder when a tank enemy is as strong as im its just unfair
Just drag your focus to the enemy adc mid and play for sidelanes also kill waves that way the enemy tank can't split push and since your in Gras they can't kill either.
I just watched your qiyana guide, and I was wondering. Is it still viable to go hubris after profane instead of youmus?
Yes of course! Hubris is a great Item stat wise, It's just more expensive compared to Youmus/Opportunity and also only good if you are snowballing already.
at 4:38 u said you have to get really clean at cancelling ur aa animations; how do u do this exactly in that situation? I usually can do it once i get my hydra and use the passive to aa cancel, but im unsure how you mean to do it before then
If you watch closely I used AA E Q. You can do the EQ in the middle of your autoattack animation to cancel it but still get the damage through. That way you safe some time and the combo is faster.
@@EdoQiyana ahhh ok thats what i thought thanks, i havent played this game in a minute , i have the muscle memory still but i dont know what im consciously doing lol
Having the muscle memory down is a very important first step since you can now focus on everything else.
How did you decide not to gank top/bot during laning after you realise you're ahead of Yone? As a new midlaner, I almost always throw my lead when I leave lane or my team flames me for being afk mid. Thank you!
you have to ignore your team and mute them right when the Game starts, the only thing you should be focused on is your own Improvement and Gameplay.
I influenced the Map a lot even by not going bot and I did get a kill onto the Xerath. I decided not wasting too much time on roams and getting many high quality resets into Objectives is much better. You can also decide to go bot but I felt like with my Botlane that felt weak and them having ezreal E + Exhaust and Xerath E it will be very hard to do something.
@@EdoQiyana Awesome. I appreciate it. I'm a support main learning mid and your qiyana gameplay inspires me to learn the champ. Looking forward to more of your content. gg
@@thatflaneur More to come mate, join my DC too. Great People there, that can help. discord.gg/cxSmH7My5y
is qiyana or zed better to climb with
The Champ that's more fun to you. Power Wise Qiyana is the strongest Assasin by far, if you don't enjoy her it doesnt make sense playing since you will run out of energy to play her really fast.
@EdoQiyana I play for a long time qiyana but I don't see my self being good at her nor improving at her I tried today zed and he feels way more strong and fun so idk if I should continue with qiyana or become an otp zed
Play the Champion you enjoy most, don't depend that on your succes with the champion.
If you really put your mind to it you can achieve anything, just keep working on yourself.
Pick what you enjoy --> Get good at it it's that simple. If you need help with anything hit me a DM in discord I'm always happy helping you. (for free)
edo when do you stream at twitch always when im looking you never streaming xD
I wish I could be streaming but my internet is currently horrible...
how to get out from silver if you are smurf
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@@EdoQiyana i mean, name of video should be "why being master (or whatever your real elo is) is your ticket out of silver"
@@06lom1 You clearly don't get the point of the Video so let me elaborate. You see what I do different and I explain everything I do. Even if you only adjust 1 single thing I explained in this Video it is already helpful to you. You don't have to be Masters to climb out of your elo but you need to have the right mindset and approach when it comes to league and seeing your mistakes is the first step to it.
@@EdoQiyana i got the point. the problem is that such videos in 99% is a game from ahead. no games where your botlane is 1/8 at 10min. or your jungler afk farm while their did 3 successfull ganks on each lane. or their pick is just better in mid/late. or you play against fucking smurf that came here for some reasons and you cant even touch minions. you know, games, where you arent 10/0 200/20 and everything is going great and your mechanical skill is good enough to obliterate literally any opponent on your lane and avoid/doublekill if enemy jungler ganks because you are few divisions higher that your opponent. such videos is funny to see, but in therms of learning... well, ye. you explain what you do but silver player wont do the same. thats because they are in silver. if they could play like a master they wouldnt be in silver, right?
That doesnt make any sense, all I hear is my team this my team that. I sense 0 self reflection in the few words you typed. Also check the other comments and how much it actually helps people to watch me play in their elo. Assuming it doesnt help you doesnt mean its the same for everyone. Never a good Idea to reflect things that don't help you to the whole player base, thats not how it works. They are silver because they dont do what I do, if you were to compare your game to mine you would see so many difference that you can work on. I am not winning this much because my jungler or my botlane is better, I win because I am better and thats the only truth. Also I had many games in the past where my entire team ints even in Diamond and I manage to win so what you say might be right for this specific game but not at all for me generally, the luck is the same for everyone its just how good you are at improving yourself. Thats what makes you climb and as long as you keep the mindset you currently have you will be stuck forever.
why is shojin good on qiyana
Hey! It gives you aditional Ability Haste for your Basic Abilities which is great for utilizing you stealth (Grass W) a lot. Especially later on Qiyana always likes to use Gras into Gras permanently to find an Angle and get a nice Ult in Dragon/Baron Pit.
People are complaining about the "ethics" of "educational smirfing", but this is quite literally what our sorry silver/gold asses need, to compare ourselves.
Just do the most dumb basic analysis:
- if we take out all of your kills, red team would be winning. -The game took 30 minutes and your team was really tryharding to lose this game (a.k.a. teemo afk top).
-You're a MS / GM player
In my opinion, this probably means you need to play for 2 players or more, in terms of value/worthiness, which means you need to dominate every champion situation, giving Qiyana's playstyle of baiting and punishing. No other champion has this level of commitment* in my opinion. Maybe Im wrong.
This right here is exactly what I preach and what I try to implement with my clients as well. Teaching People to be good enough so they can make up for at least 2 Teammates that are feeding and then simply not inting and abusing enemy mistakes is already enough to have a 60-70% WR.
This means you need to be very fluent with the Champion and that's basically what Riot designed it to be.
A champion that scales with a Player's Skill mechanically and hollistically.
Glad you see that!
dont think u should play qiyana if ur silver
Hey! Can you explain why you think that Qiyana shouldn't be played in Silver?
Now thats a weird thing to say
maybe he has a good reasoning for it, sadly didnt respond.
peak? gold 4?
EUW Masters 350LP
You outplayed hard but seriously this game is the reason why qiyana is not the pick to get out of low elo, just pick a champ which can run down mid when your 20 kills ahead and force a end, you could have lost this game if your team decided not to listen to 1 of the 2 calls they actually followed.
Hey! I think Qiyana is a decent Champion to pick up at any rank. The Reasoning behind it is the following:
She has very good and clear reference points meaning what you want to do in the Game can be understood easily. The only thing which is hard in that case is her Combos and skirmishes since there are endless possibilities of how you can play them. Summarizing I would say she is not the worst champion to pick up but also not the very best compared to more simple champions like ekko, naafiri etc.
BUT the fun aspect is very relevant as well since the more fun you have the easier it is to out in the hours and work for it. And Qiyana is for most people the best and most fun champion to play. And for those reason I think she is one of the best chanpions to learn. Hope that makes sense :)
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