Good to know you have on-line classes. Im taking a begginers jazz course here in Mexico, but after i finish this course, i would like to take some online classes with you. Im using 4ths because of Tom Quayle. i think he was one of your students? Cheers
Hi! Yes that's right. I taught Tom and introduced him to P4. When you're ready send me an email to info@leedsguitarstudio.co.uk and we can set something up.
Nice! Found this video while searching p4 tubing on a 7 string. Do you exclusively use p4 tuning now or are you able to go back and forth to guitars in standard tuning? I ask because I’m thinking about making my 7 string p4, while continuing my lessons on my 6 string in standard tuning. I feel like I’m on my own if I go p4, but not sure if it’s too much to handle to practice with 2 tunings.
@armandosinger I play in all 4ths on 6,7, and 8 strings. I'm constantly teaching people in standard tuning though so I'm able to switch back and forth. I can adapt to other tunings like 5ths easily too, partly because I started off playing violin but mostly because of the intervallic way I'm thinking about the neck. P4 is particularly satisfying on a 7 string though. I'd say give it a go on the 7. The majority of people who do don't go back. If you think about the type of music you're probably playing on a 7 string it's probably not cowboy chords and blues licks right? Not that you can't do those things in P4 but you're probably going in a different direction. Hope that helps!
@@GrahamYoung that makes a lot of sense. And it’s amazing you can go back and forth between tunings! I’ve heard that is hard from some of the p4 people. I just saw an old clip of Stanley Jordan, saying that he was playing both tunings. But he would instinctively grab the wrong chord because there are no physical cues to tell you what tuning you’re in. So he decided to stay exclusively p4. But perhaps a 7 string solves that-it’s physically different. And you’re right, I’d play differently on a 7. 7 also seems logical because all of the 7 3nps patterns (for example) are now present in every position. And all of the 7 C major scale notes are open strings. I can even imagine myself learning less common scales pretty deeply, and use that more on a 7 string, and not at all on a 6 string in standard. For example, I could do whole tone scale stuff on the 7, and not bother to learn it as deeply on the 6 tuned in standard. I’m at the point where I know the entire neck from a major scale perspective, but am about to embark on learning a ton of new things-all the interval skips, arpeggios, triads, shell chords, and tons of chord voicings. I think I’ll give p4 a go on the 7! I can get all the meat and potatoes down on the 6 standard, and go beyond that on the 7 in p4. Thanks for the encouragement!
Yeah personally for me P4 on the 7 string is the sweet spot and feels like the best implementation of the instrument. You've got 3 full octaves available in any given position which is deeply practical and lends itself to a musical way of thinking. This video demonstrates some aspects of that although there's so much more to explore. Glad you've found this helpful but bear in mind I teach P4 people from all over the world if you need any direct help. I guarantee I'll get you to where you want to be quicker than you thought possible.
@@GrahamYoungAwesome, I will seriously consider it. I need to sort out my 7 string, which is gathering dust. It’s a cheap 27” Harley Benton with an annoying tune-o-matic style bridge that won’t bring the action low enough. Need a pro to sort it out. Lessons from a world class p4 player sound like a great idea :)
Hi, I have a comprehensive harmony course in P4 but it's something only available to my private students. It's constantly expanding to include subjects like the Barry Harris method. I teach people online from all other the world. www.leedsguitarstudio.co.uk
Give it go, people who do generally don't switch back. You can get whatever PU combo you want from Kiesel H, HSH, HS. I've even seen a Vader with a single neck humbucker. It was a small uncharge as I recall.
You'd be surprised how useful it is. Aside from giving you three octaves in a single position those extra bass notes give so many more options chordally. For walking bass comping it's so much more practical than the 6 string. It all depends how you think about the neck I guess. I'm fairly atypical in that regard.
A better way to think of it is that at every place on the fretboard you can reach an extra 4th down (and a half step up if you're doing P4). That fact is much more useful than just the overall extended range.
Good to know you have on-line classes. Im taking a begginers jazz course here in Mexico, but after i finish this course, i would like to take some online classes with you. Im using 4ths because of Tom Quayle. i think he was one of your students? Cheers
Hi! Yes that's right. I taught Tom and introduced him to P4. When you're ready send me an email to info@leedsguitarstudio.co.uk and we can set something up.
@@GrahamYoung thanks. Will do
Nice! Found this video while searching p4 tubing on a 7 string. Do you exclusively use p4 tuning now or are you able to go back and forth to guitars in standard tuning? I ask because I’m thinking about making my 7 string p4, while continuing my lessons on my 6 string in standard tuning. I feel like I’m on my own if I go p4, but not sure if it’s too much to handle to practice with 2 tunings.
@armandosinger I play in all 4ths on 6,7, and 8 strings. I'm constantly teaching people in standard tuning though so I'm able to switch back and forth. I can adapt to other tunings like 5ths easily too, partly because I started off playing violin but mostly because of the intervallic way I'm thinking about the neck.
P4 is particularly satisfying on a 7 string though. I'd say give it a go on the 7. The majority of people who do don't go back. If you think about the type of music you're probably playing on a 7 string it's probably not cowboy chords and blues licks right? Not that you can't do those things in P4 but you're probably going in a different direction. Hope that helps!
@@GrahamYoung that makes a lot of sense. And it’s amazing you can go back and forth between tunings! I’ve heard that is hard from some of the p4 people. I just saw an old clip of Stanley Jordan, saying that he was playing both tunings. But he would instinctively grab the wrong chord because there are no physical cues to tell you what tuning you’re in. So he decided to stay exclusively p4. But perhaps a 7 string solves that-it’s physically different. And you’re right, I’d play differently on a 7. 7 also seems logical because all of the 7 3nps patterns (for example) are now present in every position. And all of the 7 C major scale notes are open strings. I can even imagine myself learning less common scales pretty deeply, and use that more on a 7 string, and not at all on a 6 string in standard. For example, I could do whole tone scale stuff on the 7, and not bother to learn it as deeply on the 6 tuned in standard. I’m at the point where I know the entire neck from a major scale perspective, but am about to embark on learning a ton of new things-all the interval skips, arpeggios, triads, shell chords, and tons of chord voicings. I think I’ll give p4 a go on the 7! I can get all the meat and potatoes down on the 6 standard, and go beyond that on the 7 in p4. Thanks for the encouragement!
Yeah personally for me P4 on the 7 string is the sweet spot and feels like the best implementation of the instrument. You've got 3 full octaves available in any given position which is deeply practical and lends itself to a musical way of thinking. This video demonstrates some aspects of that although there's so much more to explore.
Glad you've found this helpful but bear in mind I teach P4 people from all over the world if you need any direct help. I guarantee I'll get you to where you want to be quicker than you thought possible.
@@GrahamYoungAwesome, I will seriously consider it. I need to sort out my 7 string, which is gathering dust. It’s a cheap 27” Harley Benton with an annoying tune-o-matic style bridge that won’t bring the action low enough. Need a pro to sort it out. Lessons from a world class p4 player sound like a great idea :)
you had a lesson Arpeggios System Lesson Number 1, quite valuable, thou extremely fast . Loved it.
Can you please do a video on playing chords in this tuning
Hi, I have a comprehensive harmony course in P4 but it's something only available to my private students. It's constantly expanding to include subjects like the Barry Harris method. I teach people online from all other the world.
www.leedsguitarstudio.co.uk
P4 chance my way to think while playing guitar!!
It's a game changer for so many people
P4 makes a lot od sense on sevens. How did you get Kiesel to do a single coil neck pickup on a Vader?
Give it go, people who do generally don't switch back.
You can get whatever PU combo you want from Kiesel H, HSH, HS. I've even seen a Vader with a single neck humbucker. It was a small uncharge as I recall.
On a 7 string you only get 5 extra notes, B,C,C#,D,D#. I'm asking myself, is a 7 string really worth it?
You'd be surprised how useful it is. Aside from giving you three octaves in a single position those extra bass notes give so many more options chordally. For walking bass comping it's so much more practical than the 6 string. It all depends how you think about the neck I guess. I'm fairly atypical in that regard.
A better way to think of it is that at every place on the fretboard you can reach an extra 4th down (and a half step up if you're doing P4). That fact is much more useful than just the overall extended range.
7 string half scale bass, bass finger player.
What you do in your private life is up to you. I wouldn't share it on RUclips