They should start as a stateless faction, and then start conquering the region. It's just really weird that they start with אשקלון which was one of the last Canaanite cities to be conquered
If you go by the bible yes. See The Land of Canaan in the Late Bronze Age edited by Grabbe for more on the connection between Ashkelon and Israel, p59-72.
@@user-ew8wq4fj3g nah Israel deserves to be in the game because it’s an accurate re telling of history plus they’re important in the Bronze Age and beyond the collapse. Why would you not want game play with the tribes of Israel ?
Maybe make it like in imperator, where you choose your favorite patriarchs (such as Abraham, and I know in imperator is prophets, but we don’t have those yet) and they give buffs
Hey, I'm Jewish and I know a lot about Jewish and Hebrew history, culture, and more. I can help you with a lot of stuff like transliteration from Hebrew. like the names of the units and etc, weapons that were used at every certain period by the Hebrews/Israelites
I really appreciate the job done. It would be really cool if they started as a nomadic tribe in Sinai. Like that the conquest would be the main goal of the campaign. The court system could be built around the tribes. The levant is the only major area of the game without one
In biblical story telling narrative, yeah. But there are those who research a more historical approach who see a link on the Merneptah Stele and other such, between Ashkelon and Israel being destroyed in the same event.
@@NotoriusMaximusLol what? Israel didn't become a thing until the US was already a superpower. The Romans and basically all of medieval Europe got along fine without them to the point that everybody (100s of different states, people and religions across thousands of years) kept throwing them out.
Truth be told the Kingdom of Israel first description seems to have come about 200 years after the events of the game, though you can tell that the Canaanites are the proto Israelites by a few hints. For example the Canaan god of the sea Yam is literally the Hebrew word for sea. The god El is the word for god and used as description for THE god without saying his name.
As a Muslim I can only play the game with Israel so huge thanks. I cannot play with the idol gods , as its strictly forbidden to honor other gods. But I can happily play with Israel as they honored and worshiped the God of Abraham. Moses Yoshua and David were also my favourite Prophets and historical figures besides Abraham Christ and Mohamed. Huge thanks.
Yeah, same from a Christian, I don’t really like building shrines for false gods, even if it’s just a game, so if they could introduce the actual Lord that would be awesome,
@@euf3444 lol , what I used to do in Rome II is I build temples for Zeus who was the supreme God of Heaven according to the Greeks and is still called Theus today when they talk about God , and I imagined Greece being a ancient God believing nation , or I skipped the temples alltogether and still won on legendary.
@@andalusianstockmarket6284 you think building a temple to a god in a game matters ? Bro the shit people put themselves through because of imaginary men in the sky
Germany is founded in 1949 yet the germans are multiple milenias old and the german idea since the early medeival era. The republic of China is also from 1949 yet the chinese are from bronce age just like Israel
I greatly admire your efforts .. but no one should be buying the game / supporting CA’s racist agenda Modding the game to make it less racist isn’t the solution. Boycott CA
@@psycomutt The Yaweh worshipping Hebrews caused major problems from the mid 14th C BCE in Canaan. Seti I, Amenhotep III and Merneptah all had campaigns against them. By 1140 BCE, Israel came to completely dominate Canaan (Dr Eric Cline, “After 1177”)
@@renatopereira2315 Sir, there is a huge 3m high bloke of granite in the Cairo Museum that states Pharoah Merneptah fought the Yaweh worshipping Hebrews he called “ISRAEL” .. in the game period / 1207 BCE. It’s got nothing to do with modern politics but if you’re religious, the Quran records Israel’s ancient existence over 600 times
Arabstine. They have enough countries. They also come from the ARABian Peninsula, not Canaan and certainly not from Israel, Canaan, Palestine, or whatever you feel like calling it to try to steal another slice of land from another ethnic minority.
@@tuatara2418 Im sorry what ? You are familiar with Herodotus yes ? He wrote in the 5th century BC and called the region in his book "The Histories" as "Palaestina". The greeks have always referred to that land as Palestine, the Romans merely took the name over later. We are talking about a 500+ year difference between the first attested mentions of Palestine in greek texts to the Romans conquering and renaming it to Palestine. So no the romans didnt invent the term
Israel didn't exist during the Bronze edge Canaans owned the regios and they are the insistent of Palestinians, there is a reason why they don't exist in the Vanilla version
From what I researched a few months ago from what I remember there is a Stele in Sudan which mentions the Jews in some way by a well known pharoah like 200 years before the game starts.
That is factually false. Merneptah recorded a campaign against the Yaweh worshipping Hebrew / Habiru he called “ISRAEL”. There’s a 3m granite stela in the Cairo Museum !!
@@davehas12 truthfully I believe they were left out of the game by CA on purpose, I don't know maybe religious reasons? They would of had to add a mechanic which allows only one single faction to only allow 1 God.
@@davehas12 Dude making up history doesn't make it real the Jews don't show up until the iron age and for very short period otherwise the region was dominated by Canaans. Lies don't create history enforcing false data will not make them real. Free Palestine
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They should start as a stateless faction, and then start conquering the region. It's just really weird that they start with אשקלון which was one of the last Canaanite cities to be conquered
If you go by the bible yes. See The Land of Canaan in the Late Bronze Age edited by Grabbe for more on the connection between Ashkelon and Israel, p59-72.
Dropping a first 10 turns playthrough of this today to help showcase both your great work. Will totally be playing more of this. Nice work!
That's awsome! Gosh, blushing, thank you! :)
Israel deserves to be featured in the base game, it’s perfect for Joshua’s invasion of Canaan
nah, as an israeli i'd not want that. because whatever people would see in game would think that of reality and i think this would be disrespectful
@@user-ew8wq4fj3g nah Israel deserves to be in the game because it’s an accurate re telling of history plus they’re important in the Bronze Age and beyond the collapse. Why would you not want game play with the tribes of Israel ?
Should have made their only deity to be YHWH
Maybe make it like in imperator, where you choose your favorite patriarchs (such as Abraham, and I know in imperator is prophets, but we don’t have those yet) and they give buffs
Unpopular opinion. The Habiru are the Hebrews/ Israel and they should be made playable with an objective to capture Canaan.
what makes you think that explain
@@andalusianstockmarket6284 bad historiography from a history channel show, if i'm guessing his source right
Hey, I'm Jewish and I know a lot about Jewish and Hebrew history, culture, and more. I can help you with a lot of stuff like transliteration from Hebrew. like the names of the units and etc, weapons that were used at every certain period by the Hebrews/Israelites
I'd like to chat in discord or something
I really appreciate the job done. It would be really cool if they started as a nomadic tribe in Sinai. Like that the conquest would be the main goal of the campaign. The court system could be built around the tribes. The levant is the only major area of the game without one
In biblical story telling narrative, yeah. But there are those who research a more historical approach who see a link on the Merneptah Stele and other such, between Ashkelon and Israel being destroyed in the same event.
@@Kendji-the-Great That's right. It's cool you did it your way. This time period is very mythological
Just subscribed, super looking forward to getting into it
is the mechanic where the US gives them 5 billion dollars free of change each turn implement yet?
USA only existed 4000 years later.
Open a history book 9head
No because if there were no Hebrews, no US and the west
@@NotoriusMaximus *Laughs copiously in greek and latin*
@@NotoriusMaximusLol what? Israel didn't become a thing until the US was already a superpower. The Romans and basically all of medieval Europe got along fine without them to the point that everybody (100s of different states, people and religions across thousands of years) kept throwing them out.
I can not understand how they could put this out with out the Israel people
CA are racists
Truth be told the Kingdom of Israel first description seems to have come about 200 years after the events of the game, though you can tell that the Canaanites are the proto Israelites by a few hints. For example the Canaan god of the sea Yam is literally the Hebrew word for sea. The god El is the word for god and used as description for THE god without saying his name.
Its the same language because Hebrews are from Caanan, same culture different religion and tribes
False kaananites are hamites african in origin and Israelis are Semites , they are 2 different people.
Game set is in 12 century? Israel already exists, Stella of Merneptah
Fantasy mod
Abd’s puppet mode.
I recommend you take a break from social media and go outside to touch some grass ;)
@@Kendji-the-Great Dude, I'm wondering if we can kill children and women in this game, so I'll download the mod accordingly?
Is the mod on the workshop yet? What’s it called?
See link int description :)
As a Muslim I can only play the game with Israel so huge thanks. I cannot play with the idol gods , as its strictly forbidden to honor other gods.
But I can happily play with Israel as they honored and worshiped the God of Abraham. Moses Yoshua and David were also my favourite Prophets and historical figures besides Abraham Christ and Mohamed. Huge thanks.
Yeah, same from a Christian, I don’t really like building shrines for false gods, even if it’s just a game, so if they could introduce the actual Lord that would be awesome,
@@euf3444 lol , what I used to do in Rome II is I build temples for Zeus who was the supreme God of Heaven according to the Greeks and is still called Theus today when they talk about God , and I imagined Greece being a ancient God believing nation , or I skipped the temples alltogether and still won on legendary.
@@andalusianstockmarket6284 legendary + no temples seems tough as fuck ngl
@@andalusianstockmarket6284 you think building a temple to a god in a game matters ? Bro the shit people put themselves through because of imaginary men in the sky
@@renatopereira2315whats you obsession if people have this belief then fuck off you Anti theists are such annoying 5 year olds
Israel founded in 1948
Israel was a nation during this time 💀
Climb back onto your camel and get lost.
Germany is founded in 1949 yet the germans are multiple milenias old and the german idea since the early medeival era. The republic of China is also from 1949 yet the chinese are from bronce age just like Israel
The modern state, yes. But the Jews were a real ancient tribe
Oh ffs
Merneptah recorded a campaign against “ISRAEL”
There’s a 3m block of granite in the Cairo Museum !!
Israwhat?
Yes, that thing, yes.
We need the "liar and thief" trait for the jews.
Whats the point of this, isnt there already El?
If you watch enough you'll see El is taken into account ;)
El is the generic Amorite word for god.
Sometime they employed it for their Chief Deity
I greatly admire your efforts .. but no one should be buying the game / supporting CA’s racist agenda
Modding the game to make it less racist isn’t the solution.
Boycott CA
more like boycott Israel !
And also the game is historically correct, no modern nationalist fan fiction needed
Israel would be a small tribe in this time period though? They wouldn't be a major player in the region until much later.
@@psycomutt The Yaweh worshipping Hebrews caused major problems from the mid 14th C BCE in Canaan.
Seti I, Amenhotep III and Merneptah all had campaigns against them.
By 1140 BCE, Israel came to completely dominate Canaan (Dr Eric Cline, “After 1177”)
@@renatopereira2315 Sir, there is a huge 3m high bloke of granite in the Cairo Museum that states Pharoah Merneptah fought the Yaweh worshipping Hebrews he called “ISRAEL” .. in the game period / 1207 BCE.
It’s got nothing to do with modern politics but if you’re religious, the Quran records Israel’s ancient existence over 600 times
@@davehas12 Bro just quoted the quran as historical proof
They had to mod it cos it didnt exist in real life 🤣
someones in denail
@@Byz_enjoyer go study history
@@AbdullahAburob24 i think you need to, youve been blinded too much by islamic propaganda
Read your trash Quran and you will see name Israel. In fact Muslim scam you have name Izrail taken from Jews.
@@AbdullahAburob24 Yeah? show us your historical resources please, ABDOOOOOOOL. :)
Meh.
Palestine
Palestine was a name created by the Romans as a way to govern,
How could it be Palestine? The Romans renamed it from Judea much later.
Arabstine. They have enough countries. They also come from the ARABian Peninsula, not Canaan and certainly not from Israel, Canaan, Palestine, or whatever you feel like calling it to try to steal another slice of land from another ethnic minority.
@@tuatara2418 cause, it’s how they think, you can’t argue with them
@@tuatara2418 Im sorry what ? You are familiar with Herodotus yes ? He wrote in the 5th century BC and called the region in his book "The Histories" as "Palaestina".
The greeks have always referred to that land as Palestine, the Romans merely took the name over later. We are talking about a 500+ year difference between the first attested mentions of Palestine in greek texts to the Romans conquering and renaming it to Palestine. So no the romans didnt invent the term
Israel didn't exist during the Bronze edge Canaans owned the regios and they are the insistent of Palestinians, there is a reason why they don't exist in the Vanilla version
From what I researched a few months ago from what I remember there is a Stele in Sudan which mentions the Jews in some way by a well known pharoah like 200 years before the game starts.
Palestinians are Arabs, Arabs came from the ARABian Peninsula.
That is factually false.
Merneptah recorded a campaign against the Yaweh worshipping Hebrew / Habiru he called “ISRAEL”. There’s a 3m granite stela in the Cairo Museum !!
@@davehas12 truthfully I believe they were left out of the game by CA on purpose, I don't know maybe religious reasons? They would of had to add a mechanic which allows only one single faction to only allow 1 God.
@@davehas12 Dude making up history doesn't make it real the Jews don't show up until the iron age and for very short period otherwise the region was dominated by Canaans.
Lies don't create history enforcing false data will not make them real.
Free Palestine