Stealing Home Plate Compilation

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
  • Top 5 home base steals.
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    Jose Quintero - 300 violin orchestra
    Topmass - Victory
    Pegboard Nerds - Self destruct
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  • @Lava1964
    @Lava1964 9 лет назад +131

    I umpired for 30 years. One of the most memorable plays I saw was a game-winning steal of home on an intentional walk. With a runner on third base and nobody out in the last inning of a tie game, the defensive team was planning to intentionally walk two batters to load the bases. After each pitch, however, the catcher returned the ball to the pitcher with high, arcing lobs. The gutsy runner on third base timed one of the lobs perfectly and stole home without even drawing a throw!

  • @nitpicker9406
    @nitpicker9406 9 лет назад +170

    Steal Home = Legend
    Steal From a Home = Felon.

  • @CanadaMMA
    @CanadaMMA 9 лет назад +34

    In fairness to the umpire on the first play, he did the right thing. As an official, you are trained to create an "L" between yourself and where the play will take place. You are also supposed to force your eyes ahead of the play. Had the catcher caught the ball, the call would have been correct. Once he saw the ball wasn't there, he quickly corrected himself.
    That is the way it's supposed to be done.

  • @rutgers2825
    @rutgers2825 9 лет назад +98

    Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez?

  • @jerryhamer
    @jerryhamer 9 лет назад +192

    My ex wife is the queen of stealing home. Does that count?..xD

  • @tankmaster1018
    @tankmaster1018 8 лет назад +10

    At least the first umpire changed his call to safe after he realized the catcher had missed the ball. I have a huge amount of respect for Umps who change the call when they realize they were wrong since you hardly ever see that happen. I wasn't even entirely sure you were allowed to change a call after you made it but I was clearly wrong there... It pisses me off a bit that I know now that you can change the call but there have been plays that were much more off then this one where the ump didn't change the call.

  • @footloosebacon
    @footloosebacon 8 лет назад +1

    that little grin that Charlie Manuel has as he pops his bubblegum is the most beautiful moment in baseball that I have ever seen.

  • @JohnSmith-tx3rs
    @JohnSmith-tx3rs 9 лет назад +117

    Why does that announcer find it so mind blowing that the umpire made a mistake, then corrected himself? The throw was high and the umpire was paying attention to the plate to see the tag.

    • @RogueNation.
      @RogueNation. 9 лет назад +21

      John Smith He's a dumb hypocritical jackass who probably thinks he could have done better in the moment. F him.

    • @moegerms
      @moegerms 9 лет назад +3

      Exactly what I was thinking. Through the umps peripherals Ellis looked to have caught the ball (pitch was high, glove was high, tag was made at the plate). It happens so fast you have to time to look at the glove, the ball, the runner, and the tag. Incredible steal though.

    • @CanadaMMA
      @CanadaMMA 9 лет назад +8

      John Smith
      Especially because as an umpire, you are supposed to be forcing your eyes ahead of the play like that. Had the catcher caught the ball, the call would have been correct.
      Once he realized the ball wasn't there, he corrected himself.
      It wasn't a terrible call at all. It was an umpire doing the right thing.

    • @thesocraticparadox6722
      @thesocraticparadox6722 9 лет назад +6

      yeah exactly, you can always go back and correct the call once realizing the ball is not in the fielder's possession. you want to focus all your attention on the bang-bang play, meanwhile.
      this is why some umpires will delay an "out" call for about a second or two, while they wait for the fielder to show them they have the ball.

    • @724Broncofan
      @724Broncofan 9 лет назад

      CanadaMMA Technically an umpire is suppose to make sure the ball is in the back of the glove. But yeah everything else is understandable. And the umpire is only human as well. The main thing the announcer gets wrong is what everyone gets wrong. It has to deal with biases. There are several, hindsight bias, the bias you have when going for a team, etc. This has to deal with the perfect knowledge bias. The announcer has the better view of the ball and backend of the play (meaning if the ball is out of the glove, and past the catcher), and wrongly gives that knowledge to the umpire. To criticize the announcer for this seems shortsighted to me, as all humans possess this bias at differing points in our lives regardless of whether or not we admit it. This is where I think Joey G's comment is immature and extreme, and basically everything he accused the announcer of he is guilty of being himself.

  • @DEMOLITIONZ27
    @DEMOLITIONZ27 9 лет назад +57

    Calm down commentators. If the catcher did catch the ball he would have been out. Once he saw that he didn't catch it he rightfully called the runner safe.

    • @JiminysCricket
      @JiminysCricket 9 лет назад +5

      No kidding. Padres long time announcer/full time douchebag Dick Enberg at his finest.

    • @CanucksWontWin
      @CanucksWontWin 7 лет назад

      DEMOLITIONZ27 fuck you, Enberg is a legend.

    • @AR-jt2ux
      @AR-jt2ux 6 лет назад

      Did you see how emphatically he called him out?

  • @DragonSlayer-pq4rs
    @DragonSlayer-pq4rs 9 лет назад +85

    in mlb the show this is physically impossible

    • @rpsnider85
      @rpsnider85 9 лет назад +3

      Nope, i do it every time I'm at third. I get a lead, the pitcher will either throw to third or start his wind up, but in either case i break for the plate and slide to the inside and I'm safe about 65-70% of the time

    • @rpsnider85
      @rpsnider85 9 лет назад +13

      Robert Snider maybe i should make a tutorial

    • @mst25
      @mst25 9 лет назад +3

      Robert Snider Yes, please do!

    • @basegaming1389
      @basegaming1389 9 лет назад +2

      Unless u get maxed out speed w/ licensed equipment

    • @DragonSlayer-pq4rs
      @DragonSlayer-pq4rs 9 лет назад

      i couldn't even do it in mlb 12 the show and my guy was maxed out.

  • @youngatwista
    @youngatwista 8 лет назад +5

    If it weren't for the crowd, more bases would be stolen.
    You gotta look around and somethings gotta be happening if you're just standing on the mound doing nothing and the crowd gets loud. tipping off the pitcher

  • @dennisvargas7719
    @dennisvargas7719 9 лет назад +60

    stealing is bad.

  • @NateM154
    @NateM154 9 лет назад +10

    stealing home = legend.

  • @okrajoe
    @okrajoe 9 лет назад +6

    Sometimes you got to steal ALL the homes.

  • @justinchristensen5351
    @justinchristensen5351 9 лет назад +1

    What were the songs on this.I loved the video. I like the songs just dont know what they are

  • @tabithatate6215
    @tabithatate6215 9 лет назад

    I was at that Royals game. It was one of the most awesome moments in a ballpark that I've ever seen :)

  • @greyk610
    @greyk610 9 лет назад +4

    2:50 I feel like more players should try that.. I mean, it honestly didn't look that difficult. If. You have a lefty with his back turned not looking at you (because nobody would expect a steal attempt) and the bater pretty much blocking the catchers view.. If you execute it like he did then it's probably as simple as it looked.

  • @Logistyx-
    @Logistyx- 9 лет назад +10

    Ellsbury's was an actual steal of home. All the other ones were the runner advancing on a throw. They all probably count as stealing home but Ellsbury's was the best

    • @SaveHipHop100
      @SaveHipHop100 9 лет назад +1

      what are u talking about??.. the very 1st one was a steal on the pitcher. Was just like ellburys, pitcher had the ball.

    • @Logistyx-
      @Logistyx- 9 лет назад

      Alpha-Q-Up Your right my bad. I still think Ellsbury's was the best.

    • @Garfunkel-fp1ok
      @Garfunkel-fp1ok 9 лет назад +5

      The Villar one though was a perfect home plate steal, wasn't it?

    • @BigDr0p1
      @BigDr0p1 9 лет назад

      Jonathan villar was a steal

    • @BigDr0p1
      @BigDr0p1 9 лет назад +1

      No one will have a better steal at home than Jackie Robinson

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules 8 лет назад

    I witnessed someone steal home at a White Sox game - seeing the other team absolutely clueless added to the experience!

  • @shipofthesun
    @shipofthesun 8 лет назад +17

    For your future reference: being caught in a rundown and avoiding the tag is not stealing a base.

    • @rtyable
      @rtyable 8 лет назад

      Thank you!

    • @jjparks9263
      @jjparks9263 8 лет назад

      If you think about it, it is stealing the base because it was not given to you nor was it on a hit. You attempted to steal home, caught in a rundown and avoided the tag. Therefore, you stole homebase

    • @rtyable
      @rtyable 8 лет назад

      I can see where you're coming from but I don'[t see it that way. The straight attempt to steal isn't there. That's how I see it.

    • @jjparks9263
      @jjparks9263 8 лет назад

      Understandable, but in the books, it's counted as a steal

    • @shipofthesun
      @shipofthesun 8 лет назад

      +Howard Barnett Screw it, I looked it up.
      "If he is picked off a base, but makes it to the next base, whether directly, or by successfully surviving a run down play, he also gets credit for a stolen base
      Note: as unfair as this is, the steal is charged to the catcher. i.e., his percentage of runners thrown out goes down, even though he was not involved on that play
      If he is picked off a base, and is thrown out trying to advance then he is charged with caught stealing
      Note: Similarly to the above example, the catcher here gets credit for the CS."
      BUT
      "On a double steal if one runner gets credit for a steal, award the other runner a stolen base as well
      Reasoning: This is giving the baserunners the benefit of the doubt. If a throw to third base is not in time, the assumption is that the catcher threw to the base he had the best chance of getting, therefore the runner stealing second would have been safe if the throw went there as well
      If one runner is thrown out, then do not give the other runner anything. His advance is treated like a fielder’s choice."
      So, runner goes from 3rd, avoids the rundown, stolen base. Double steal, other runner gets thrown out and you score, fielder's choice.

  • @taxitalknyc7600
    @taxitalknyc7600 9 лет назад

    0:15
    GREAT producer right there !! Wow !! Cool - can I get a job at that station ???

  • @pirat3d
    @pirat3d 8 лет назад +9

    Jacoby Ellsbury just did it again today but playing for the Yankees

    • @patkelly7844
      @patkelly7844 8 лет назад +2

      Reason i came to watch this video lol

    • @seanp9161
      @seanp9161 8 лет назад +1

      +P kells12 me too XD

  • @rtyable
    @rtyable 8 лет назад

    I can't find video of it but Jason Kendall's walk off steal of home when Fransisco Rodriguez dropped the throw back from the catcher in 05 was awesome

  • @jeremyrowe8224
    @jeremyrowe8224 8 лет назад

    Aaron Hill had a great straight steal of home Jays vs Yankees back when he played for toronto. Not sure you can find it on youtube though but it was at the end of a close game.

  • @carlmoore3215
    @carlmoore3215 8 лет назад

    Sept. 21, 1964: Chico Ruiz steals home for game's only run as Cincinnati Reds beat Philadelphia Phillies to start Phillies' well-known 10 game losing streak to tumble out of 1st place. Phillies had won on Sept. 20 but lost 2 games just before that, and one of those 2 losses also had a steal of home against Phillies.

  • @XaviRonaldo0
    @XaviRonaldo0 9 лет назад +2

    that Ellsbury one was crazy. How the hell do you steal home on the pitch?

  • @giovanejr8352
    @giovanejr8352 8 лет назад +3

    That is why baseball is so fucking awesome ^^

  • @tward93
    @tward93 9 лет назад

    A video so nice, I watched it twice!

  • @345Taco
    @345Taco 8 лет назад +1

    Aaron Hill was the other guy who stole home off Pettite (in Toronto)

  • @djkilabeat
    @djkilabeat 9 лет назад

    Cabby! My favorite player and favorite Padre. Such a shame we DFA'd him. Could've used him this year, too.

    • @theswagatron
      @theswagatron 9 лет назад

      Ernesto Arce i was a fan of him too until he abused steroids twice and got arrested lol.

  • @WTFweretheythinking1
    @WTFweretheythinking1 9 лет назад

    Sweet Video dude!

  • @josephallan8791
    @josephallan8791 6 лет назад

    That indians and royals double pickle i would vote in the top 10 of infield oddities and aswome demonstration of skill in baseball history. Even though one side has to lose you could see what professionals are made up. I made it to catcher in my jr. College team and it takes some bad skill to operate a high speed infield like that. That was spectacular!!!

  • @Coleburgess09
    @Coleburgess09 8 лет назад

    Something pretty cool about the harper steal is that the only reason he was on base is because Cole Hammels beaned him as a "welcome to the show" kind of thing and I think bryce got him back...

  • @OffOliverClose
    @OffOliverClose 9 лет назад

    at 1:55 you see some dirt come up. was he tagged or does it have to be more contact than that?
    good call or bad call?

    • @apparatus9709
      @apparatus9709 9 лет назад

      Sorry this is late but the dirt came up because escobar planted his cleet into the ground when he took off and he must be tagged by the catcher who barely whiffed him

  • @mariahbeth1
    @mariahbeth1 9 лет назад

    Nice background music !

  • @HeadBanger368
    @HeadBanger368 9 лет назад

    They make it look so easy!

  • @JiminysCricket
    @JiminysCricket 9 лет назад +2

    I've always thought Dick Enberg was a tool. The way he went on about the umpire calling the Padres' runner out by mistake only adds to my feelings. Umpires make mistakes, that's the whole human element of baseball Dick. Then, when he realizes his mistake and calls him safe, Enberg ridicules him even more.
    Yes, I hate Dick Enberg!

  • @scottybbadd
    @scottybbadd 9 лет назад

    The best steal of home I ever saw wasn't listed. Elvis Andrus vs San Diego. He did it off a right handed pitcher

  • @natep0611
    @natep0611 7 лет назад

    Great video! ...WOW

  • @ScottCheatham
    @ScottCheatham 8 лет назад

    This could be 'modern day' steals of home. The best I've ever seen was Glenn Brummer of the St. Louis Cardinals stealing home on Gary Lavelle against the San Francisco Giants in '82.

  • @bt10ant
    @bt10ant 8 лет назад +1

    Can you repost a version without the music? Thanks.

  • @shoukatsukai
    @shoukatsukai 9 лет назад +7

    Greg Gibson, the home plate umpire...

    • @qazwsx2426
      @qazwsx2426 8 лет назад

      IS MOTIONING TO BOTH PLAYERS...

    • @shoukatsukai
      @shoukatsukai 8 лет назад

      qazwsx And the Dodgers celebrating in their dugout...

  • @aldavolt
    @aldavolt 9 лет назад

    The speed deprived Mike Sweeney stole home on Pettite. Pettite was notorious for not keeping an eye on the guy at third.

  • @nuraman00
    @nuraman00 9 лет назад

    Good clip.
    What dates were each of these games?

    • @ndrewdomingo
      @ndrewdomingo 9 лет назад

      1st steal was sometime during the 2013 season

  • @BennyK14
    @BennyK14 9 лет назад +2

    ...Greg Gibson... The home plate umpire...

  • @taxitalknyc7600
    @taxitalknyc7600 9 лет назад +1

    02:03 Great call NOT !! OUT - Tagged the foot !!!

  • @GRONKOSAURUS
    @GRONKOSAURUS 9 лет назад +2

    Can't wait till Billy Hamilton does this

  • @Pablo123456x
    @Pablo123456x 6 лет назад +1

    All of them were homies stealing it.
    No surprise there.

  • @activatebpm
    @activatebpm Год назад

    On the first one, did that call stand? The guy that stole home stood as safe after the initial call of out? If that's how it went, what about Armando Galarraga's perfect game? Couldn't they have switched that call?

  • @Johneday5
    @Johneday5 8 лет назад

    What song is that called? Please respond.

  • @AbsoluteWrestlingFed
    @AbsoluteWrestlingFed 9 лет назад

    Ellsbury's was the only good one. Is not too difficult to steal home when the pitcher is sleeping or when the play is somewhere else, but doing a straight steal is impressive.

  • @jonahconner1111
    @jonahconner1111 9 лет назад

    Nice mullet Harper

  • @ColeLeaman
    @ColeLeaman 8 лет назад

    This was posted on my birthday

  • @alanpeel1981
    @alanpeel1981 7 лет назад

    2:59 - This is why you never throw behind runners, kids.

  • @nakedfaves
    @nakedfaves 9 лет назад +1

    So the umpire in the first clip didn't see the catcher miss the ball. He was just presuming that the catcher had the ball because the tag did beat the runner.

  • @cbb1302001
    @cbb1302001 9 лет назад

    Song at 3:20? Can someone help me out? It sounds so familiar, but I cant remember the name

  • @Austin101123
    @Austin101123 8 лет назад +2

    Gotta add a second jacoby ellsbury steal now :)
    But this time *for* the yankees :(

  • @thesocraticparadox6722
    @thesocraticparadox6722 9 лет назад

    Funny how the announcer in the first one is so quick to give the umpire crap (when the umpire actually didn't do anything wrong), but he doesn't point out how the catcher moped and sat on the ground for a couple seconds, which allowed the next, winning, run to cross the plate.

  • @michaelmehicani1453
    @michaelmehicani1453 9 лет назад +3

    1:41 what's the guy in the yellow doing?

    • @gordlawson11
      @gordlawson11 9 лет назад +1

      Michael Mehicani ummmm... wiping something off his friends hand, smelling it, then licking it off his hand with a huge smile?
      good catch!

    • @SOLOHeyman
      @SOLOHeyman 6 лет назад

      lol, that whole trio is goofy looking.

  • @jdspreest
    @jdspreest 6 лет назад

    Greg Gibson motioned both the players safe on that play..except he fucked up the first call initially LOL

  • @swordfish00007
    @swordfish00007 8 лет назад

    great vid

  • @ZomBHLow
    @ZomBHLow 8 лет назад

    The second steal is a prime example of a diversion you'd learn in little league. If you're on Offense (On base) you'd steal 2nd because you know if they try to throw to tag you out the better on 3rd is taking home. And if you're on defense you just let the guy steal second so that doesn't happen. Simple mistake that could easily be avoided.

  • @depaola63
    @depaola63 8 лет назад +1

    I think the great Rod Carew has the MLB record ..for season..(7x) and career (23x!) Also he was one of the greatest hitters ever!

    • @zkiiffs9
      @zkiiffs9 8 лет назад +1

      Cobb has both. 8 in 1912, and 54 for his career.

    • @vinrabideaux3602
      @vinrabideaux3602 8 лет назад

      +Nicky Depaola Carew had 17 steals of home in his career. Nobody in his era or since has come very close (I think Molitor had 10), but it was much more common earlier in the century.

    • @depaola63
      @depaola63 8 лет назад

      +Vin Rabideaux ...Thanks for that stat!

  • @randycable3806
    @randycable3806 8 лет назад

    Ellsbury stealing home was even bigger because it was a playoff game.That's a lot of balls for a rookie to try that one.The kid could fly tho.

  • @1234Peacekeeper
    @1234Peacekeeper 9 лет назад

    Anyone else notice that they're all kids? One was 19 y.o. anorher a rookie Elsbury did it his 2nd full season. All youngsters whit the guts to go for it!

  • @Shindler39
    @Shindler39 7 лет назад

    Villar at 2:15 is totally outstanding!

  • @NYOBXVOCAj
    @NYOBXVOCAj 8 лет назад

    Escobar got wheels 😂😂

  • @inbetweenthestitches1108
    @inbetweenthestitches1108 9 лет назад

    What s the song in the background

  • @alienresearchfederation9567
    @alienresearchfederation9567 8 лет назад

    What's it called

  • @JessCharlesSmith
    @JessCharlesSmith 9 лет назад

    thats awsome

  • @itsallagame2013
    @itsallagame2013 6 лет назад

    Home Plate Stolen = When your pitcher is eating shit.

  • @robertbrunner3258
    @robertbrunner3258 9 лет назад

    What is that song called

  • @Beltran15x
    @Beltran15x 9 лет назад +1

    Leave it to the Padres broadcast to get mad about an easy mistake that was immediately corrected.

  • @robertyancey5712
    @robertyancey5712 6 лет назад

    Stealing home plate, the drag bunt, stealing bases, playing small ball.. ALL LOST ARTS IN BASEBALL...

  • @JoshDone
    @JoshDone 9 лет назад

    A stealing home compilation without Jackie Robinson? Wait, what?!

  • @jaydenstrudel
    @jaydenstrudel 9 лет назад

    if theres a part 2, donaldsons home steal should be in there

  • @Brandon-uq1gr
    @Brandon-uq1gr 8 лет назад

    If you update this list have Billy Hamilton on there when he steals second third then home

  • @qbaker20
    @qbaker20 8 лет назад

    Greg Gibson, the home plate umpire, doesn't have his best moment on that first one.

  • @teddytaylor3373
    @teddytaylor3373 9 лет назад

    Has someone ever get hit by the pitch while stealing home

  • @JacobCruzMedranda
    @JacobCruzMedranda 9 лет назад

    Ellsbury just ellsBURIED him

  • @chrisyarbrough6352
    @chrisyarbrough6352 9 лет назад

    Background song?

  • @SparkytehUnicorn
    @SparkytehUnicorn 8 лет назад +3

    I would like baseball if I didn't have to sit there twiddling my thumbs for three hours to see stuff like this.

  • @ThisIsSrsBsnsMan
    @ThisIsSrsBsnsMan 9 лет назад

    What was the song at 3:20?

  • @taxitalknyc7600
    @taxitalknyc7600 9 лет назад +2

    02:05 OUT !! TWICE !! HORRIBLE CALL !!

    • @TheoneandonlyEETFUK
      @TheoneandonlyEETFUK 9 лет назад +3

      NOOOO.

    • @henryk8675309
      @henryk8675309 9 лет назад +7

      Taxi Talk NYC He missed him both times. Even the catcher knew he missed him, which is why his hand went to his glove to throw him out. Also notice the catcher doesn't even contest it.

    • @jasonbrown8838
      @jasonbrown8838 9 лет назад +1

      That first one took major balls to do that

    • @run95111
      @run95111 9 лет назад

      Taxi Talk NYC
      great call as many would call him out. He missed him both times the catcher didn't even protest. Watch it again at 1:55

  • @monday5264897
    @monday5264897 9 лет назад

    Guard the plate, dammit.

  • @maxime2320
    @maxime2320 9 лет назад

    Escobar's is awesome!!!

  • @CrociatoAzzurro
    @CrociatoAzzurro 9 лет назад

    I've wondered why in a rundown when a Catcher is involved they don't flip off their mask.

  • @allyvosky1415
    @allyvosky1415 9 лет назад

    Harper is a great baseball player for someone straight out of Highschool! Not even college...

  • @jdspreest
    @jdspreest 8 лет назад

    what's funny is that the ump called Cabrera out without realizing the catcher didn't even have the fucken ball LOL suddenly he sees it and calls him safe, trying not to look like a damn fool..

    • @jdspreest
      @jdspreest 8 лет назад

      but the biggest fool had to be the pitcher (Jansen?)..what the fuck was he doing?

  • @MrDabba100
    @MrDabba100 9 лет назад +1

    Ok in all honesty the pickle with Alicdes Escobar, he got tagged by the catcher.

    • @nicklilley6618
      @nicklilley6618 9 лет назад +1

      No he didn't in all honesty

    • @Kira-zi1qp
      @Kira-zi1qp 9 лет назад

      Clearly missed the tag

    • @jacksonkeller3494
      @jacksonkeller3494 9 лет назад +1

      At least spell his name right :P

    • @murphyp2
      @murphyp2 9 лет назад

      David Abbatangelo Royals fan here, and throughout the broadcast they showed multiple replays indicating Gomes missed him. That said, Esky wasn't credited with a stolen base, on the play. They scored it as Gordon getting a steal and Esky advancing on the throw.

  • @skullmanwizard
    @skullmanwizard 9 лет назад

    sick move by escobar.

  • @DisappearingBoy2010
    @DisappearingBoy2010 9 лет назад

    How can the top 5 all be in the last 3 years?

  • @mrjimi1
    @mrjimi1 8 лет назад

    I got nothing against Harper or Escobar, both of those plays were awesome examples of what makes them good players. However, they feel out of place in a stealing home list (hardly call 5 a compilation), even though they may technically be steals.

  • @faustoandressanches771
    @faustoandressanches771 8 лет назад

    Que Estilo de juegos tan bueno...

  • @ThatBoyGui
    @ThatBoyGui 9 лет назад

    I was at that Dodger game...

  • @danmcgruer1870
    @danmcgruer1870 9 лет назад

    Escobar should have been called out. He was clearly tagged on the foot trying to avoid the tag

  • @CBrazzyTV
    @CBrazzyTV 9 лет назад

    What the song

  • @jonbower194
    @jonbower194 4 года назад

    Escobar was tagged out, you can see the glove deflect on the second view.

  • @katyhand7914
    @katyhand7914 9 лет назад

    Music?

  • @CoolAsFreya
    @CoolAsFreya 7 лет назад

    this is even more impossible in softball because you can't steal until the ball leaves the pitchers hand