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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024
  • tep into the captivating world of IDW Sonic the Hedgehog comics as we embark on a new chapter of exploration. In this poignant video, we delve into the gripping story of one of the first "new" characters introduced in the IDW universe: Mr. Tinker. Join us as we uncover the origins of this enigmatic figure and witness his heart-wrenching transformation into Sonic's long-time nemesis, Doctor Eggman. Prepare for a journey that traverses the realms of innocence, redemption, and despair as we shed light on the tragic tale of Mr. Tinker. Don't miss this emotional exploration of the IDW Sonic comic history, where the line between hero and villain becomes blurred, leaving a profound impact on Sonic's world.
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  • @randoontheinternet5842
    @randoontheinternet5842 Год назад +588

    He’s just a mysterious as Mr. L from Paper Mario, We will never learn his true identity

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  Год назад +117

      At least with Mr. L we know his nickname is the green thunder. Mr. Tinker is truely one of the greatest enigmas of this generation

    • @shelbybayer200
      @shelbybayer200 Год назад +11

      Uh

    • @EberHeim22231
      @EberHeim22231 Год назад +10

      WELL MAYBE HE CAN STILL BE MR TINKER AND FORGETHEBHORRORSVANDVFEAR HE BROUGHT TO THE
      WORLD NO MORE EGGMAN

    • @getjinxed101
      @getjinxed101 Год назад +6

      Yeah. We'll never know.

    • @EberHeim22231
      @EberHeim22231 Год назад

      YOU KNOW MAYBE EGGMAN CAN STILL BE MR TINKER AND MAYBE
      HE CAN DO MANY UNEVIL STUFF
      SO MAYBE WE WILL KNOW ONCE
      MR TINKER IS BACK TO DOING
      GOOD SO WHAT DO YOU THINK
      WHOS GOING TO RETURN IN
      THE COMIC U'M THINKING IMPERSTOR IX FROM SONIC
      CHRONICLES BECAUSE IMPERATOR
      ix Created The Phantom Ruby And
      Started This War Before It Was Ruined And Sonic Suffered Much
      Because Of IMPERATOR IX So I
      Think IMPERATOR IX Will Return To Restore Shadow The Hedgehog To
      His Former Glory His Ultimate Lifeformer Glory Shadow The Hedgehog Will Be Reborn And Help
      IMPERATOR IX USE The Metal Virus To Turn Everyone For The Day Shadow The Hedgehog Suffered During His Last Battle Against The
      Biolizard From Sonic Adventure 2
      Into Zombots And Believe Me I
      Know Shadow Suffered a Lot Than Eggman And I Know Shadow Will
      Rule The World With Imperator Is
      Because Shadow The Hedgehog Didn't Die in Donic Adventure 2
      And I Know Why Because Shadow
      Was Rescued By One Of EGGMAN'S
      Robots And I Know Dhadow Will
      Use The Metal Virus To Infect All
      People And Rule The World Right

  • @Oceane1803
    @Oceane1803 Год назад +713

    I saw a fanmade version where Eggman regains his memories but decides to stay as Mr. Tinker and live a quiet life. And honestly, it was kinda sweet.

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  Год назад +101

      Oh I like that a lot!

    • @Oceane1803
      @Oceane1803 Год назад

      @@FantasticSamtastic ruclips.net/video/d64Q0Y7zX-I/видео.htmlsi=c-kRmGyFvoFhNaDT

    • @justalpha9138
      @justalpha9138 Год назад +27

      I saw it too, and it gives me a lot of inspiration for my ideas, not gonna lie

    • @arcticfluffyfoxy
      @arcticfluffyfoxy 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@Oceane1803link gone

    • @Oceane1803
      @Oceane1803 7 месяцев назад

      @@arcticfluffyfoxy Huh it never did that to me before. Well you can easily find it by looking it up here on youtube. It's called "If Dr. Eggman decides to stay as Mr. Tinker".

  • @highlightergod8437
    @highlightergod8437 7 месяцев назад +296

    I personally love how the comics further address this. In the metal virus, sonic confronts eggman asking him why not go back to being mr.tinker. The facial expression eggman gives is heartbreaking, because you see him remember making his inventions for people to be useful instead of destruction. He also has that grim expression that its too late to go back to that, which had me so invested in the story.

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  7 месяцев назад +49

      Yes! I did two videos covering that and that was one of my favourite moments. I love that they acknowledge Mr. Tinker and that Eggman even has a moment of reflection

    • @EvenFlow391
      @EvenFlow391 7 месяцев назад +24

      I do really hope to see some continuation of that guilt. Eggman still wants to "change the world", but how does he really want to do that? It would be the first time, as the smartest person in the world, couldn't answer a question. He NEEDS to have a response, either through his own ego or a genuine need to find a greater means of impact.
      I hope they use Belle's continuing dynamic with Eggman as a means of answering that question, but it could also be a means of introducing Sage into the IDW verse, as "Eggman's proper answer" to the question, and both Sage and Belle get to explore what it means of being the progeny of the same person's multi-faceted answer to how they wanted to change the world and leave a legacy.

    • @coreynugget6646
      @coreynugget6646 6 месяцев назад +1

      N

    • @bromomento5913
      @bromomento5913 6 месяцев назад +1

      Holy shit. Literally Jonkler

  • @agentclank8183
    @agentclank8183 7 месяцев назад +209

    “What kind of monster would program you with emotions only to prey on them?!” I love that line, really separates the evil doctor from the good hearted Mr.Tinker.

  • @vanndymaywho1910
    @vanndymaywho1910 6 месяцев назад +38

    I really like one detail that’s in both Eggman and Tinker is his ability to think ahead, Eggman often plans to make doomsday devices and bases far in advance but…
    What Tinker did when he felt himself reverting back into his old personality he used the little time he had to write a heartfelt goodbye letter to his daughter Belle which I thought was really sweet, it’s the same trait but just different intentions and I love that.

  • @MidoriNatsume
    @MidoriNatsume Год назад +336

    Poor Mr Tinker, he was the victim of the worst enemy of comic characters: The Status Quo.
    But if IDW will try to go has hard as Archie went, we might find some shenanigans like Robotnik and Tinker being separated into 2 beings, kinda like Majin-Buu from DBZ.

    • @weepnwallow
      @weepnwallow Год назад +47

      or, what if there is a scene where eggman is about to do something unforgivable, and in his mind he has a fight with mr tinker? thatd be a cool concept, showing eggman if he had an "angel" on his shoulder?

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  Год назад +49

      That would be cool to see the Mr. Tinker personality fighting through a subconscious. I hope we see more of him one day tbh

    • @damonkatumaru
      @damonkatumaru Год назад +13

      I think my idea of splitting timelines might mean there might be a Mr. Tinker somewhere in the timelines.
      It also means Cannon Events are also here as well. Which leads to the idea if there's a rip in the timelines -- Ohhh boy~

    • @brainstormsurge154
      @brainstormsurge154 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@damonkatumaru If he ended up becoming kind of like a Dr. Light from Megaman that would be kind of cool.

    • @joshuakim5240
      @joshuakim5240 5 дней назад

      Either that or, due to the comics referencing the games, Eggman slowly has the Mr. Tinker side of him show up more and more if Sage gets adapted into the comics, with some future run-ins with Belle, constantly reminding him that at no point did anything ever force him to be evil. It was shown that he misses his time as Mr. Tinker but simply thinks that he's too beyond redemption to ever go back that life but that isn't really true since his choice to remain a villain solidifies that it's always a choice. Perhaps something SO evil shows up that has Eggman finally realize this and finally choose to be good out of a desire to be so rather than simple circumstance. Slowly, of course, since he's a stubborn dude who needs a ton of convincing.

  • @apoole54
    @apoole54 7 месяцев назад +148

    I love how it wasn’t like the torture that brought him back to being egg man it was metal sonic

  • @PercyTheWolf
    @PercyTheWolf Год назад +98

    Mr Tinker being the total opposite of Eggman & a nice guy in general was a fun concept,
    Good Vid

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  Год назад +10

      Thank you! I really thought Mr. Tinker's character was really interesting

    • @PercyTheWolf
      @PercyTheWolf Год назад +5

      @@FantasticSamtastic your videos are always focused and on point

    • @PercyTheWolf
      @PercyTheWolf Год назад +4

      I like that

  • @Nyghtking
    @Nyghtking 6 месяцев назад +139

    If i remember correctly, Eggman even says at one point that he misses being Mr Tinker, how people liked him, how his inventions helped people, how people wanted to be around him, but believes he can never go back to that life, despite liking it better.

    • @trustmeits610pm2
      @trustmeits610pm2 6 месяцев назад +56

      The original Eggman VS Sonic was kind of an environmentalism message. That's why Sonic saving animals from being/powering robots is such a big part of the games.
      Eggman represents all the cleverness and ingenuity of mankind, but also its hubris and greed.
      For all his faults, Eggman remains a human being. Even at his worst, he's not wholly evil. He can't be. No human is. He's not a demon. There *is* good in him, it's just eclipsed by his arrogance and selfishness. His eventual fatalistic attitude towards being a villain (while also regretting it) is also a very human thing.
      Eggman believes he is beyond forgiveness. That his crimes are so terrible that he can never turn back from the path he is on. In his mind, he doesn't *deserve* to be Mr. Tinker. Trapped between his guilt and his pride, he marches onward towards a tragic destiny he cannot escape.

    • @The_wheels_turn_ever_forward
      @The_wheels_turn_ever_forward 6 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@trustmeits610pm2*roaring applause*

    • @Unknown-jk7rs
      @Unknown-jk7rs 25 дней назад +3

      ​@@trustmeits610pm2 beautiful.

  • @esteban8471
    @esteban8471 8 месяцев назад +179

    My reaction to meeting Mr. Tinker: Eggman with amnesia as a good guy? Pfffffft. Okay, sure.
    My reaction to Mr. Tinker's "death": Nooooooo! Don't get your memories back, please! Someone save this man before it's too late! Please!

    • @duel-chip5
      @duel-chip5 26 дней назад +2

      sorry life isn't fair

  • @Fnaffan777
    @Fnaffan777 9 месяцев назад +42

    I really like Mr Tinker, it’s a damn shame that he didn’t last for long even if it had to happen.

  • @neogokiMK00
    @neogokiMK00 Год назад +100

    Mr Tinker reminds me of Dr Kintobor, the Archie Comic's form of Eggman before he turned evil/crazy.
    If it where set in that universe I would suspect that Eggman's original personality had returned.

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  Год назад +17

      Oh that's actually a really cool thought!

    • @ktm6612
      @ktm6612 9 месяцев назад +7

      I believe that Kintobor is more of a creation from the sonic bible (which served as the basis for Fleetway Sonic)

    • @prosecutorwalton
      @prosecutorwalton 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ktm6612 Yea, that's true.

  • @AxisTheCreator21
    @AxisTheCreator21 6 месяцев назад +46

    This makes me think that before Robotnik ever became evil and power hungry, he actually was an innocent carpenter (Maybe Mr. Tinker was his company or work name). But for whatever reason, he became who he is today. Him getting beaten and possibly concussed likely gave him amnesia, and he only had the memories prior to becoming evil.

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  6 месяцев назад +11

      I do think it would be very interesting if Mr.Tinker was his original personality!

    • @AxisTheCreator21
      @AxisTheCreator21 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@FantasticSamtastic indeed

  • @lilylunamoonyt
    @lilylunamoonyt 7 месяцев назад +42

    hot take: starline looks like a donald duck character

    • @chrisk6637
      @chrisk6637 7 месяцев назад +5

      A hot take is a opinion and not a fact

    • @lilylunamoonyt
      @lilylunamoonyt 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@chrisk6637 that's why it's a hot take, it's my opinion

    • @notatallfunctional
      @notatallfunctional 7 месяцев назад +2

      Well the Sonic artstyle is already similar to the old Disney cartoon style, so it makes sense that he looks like that.

    • @lilylunamoonyt
      @lilylunamoonyt 7 месяцев назад

      @@notatallfunctional fair point, and a fact that I did not know, cool

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  7 месяцев назад +2

      I never thought of that before, but that's all I see now

  • @comicbookreviewer4856
    @comicbookreviewer4856 Год назад +85

    Looking back with Sonic the Hedgehog I kinda now see Eggaman as a dark reflection to Sonic as Sonic has friends Eggman has Orbot and Cubot as his only two real friends Well Sonic moved past his childhood and became the hero needed and got the love he wanted well Eggman never moved past what happen to Maria and his Grandfather and became the villain and never got the love from his grandfather also Mr Tinker is what Eggman might've been had he never been too misguided

  • @tomcurl8034
    @tomcurl8034 7 месяцев назад +11

    It is better that he was there for a short time then if he was never there at all, and in that short time, he made belle and she may not be able to bring her father back, but she can sure live up to who he tried to be in his brief time as Mr. Tinker

  • @rowan4327
    @rowan4327 Год назад +47

    Great video. Short and to the point, good research, editing and music, and clear voice work. 5/5
    Mr. Tinker is a very interesting take on the "good Eggman". I wonder how he would act if swapped into the position of other good Eggman like Dr. Kintobor from Fleetway or Dr. Kintobor from Archie. Unlike those two, who still seem to have Eggman's drive to "change the world", Mr. Tinker seemed to just be helpful on the small scale. Perhaps this would change if he had greater access to resources however.

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  Год назад +6

      Thanks I appreciate it! It would be really cool to see more Mr. Tinker one day

  • @destroyerkitty9434
    @destroyerkitty9434 Год назад +20

    Good to see you cover this continuity! The Archie content is an awesome and detailed learning experience, and this is an entertaining re-look at stuff I know well. Keep on the fantastic comic content!

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I really enjoy the Archie content I make but I wanted to change it up with some IDW. I had a really good time

  • @tinygoblinlvl.3151
    @tinygoblinlvl.3151 6 месяцев назад +7

    Mr. Tinkerer is just Eggman without a degree

  • @SpeedBlitz-lk5bf
    @SpeedBlitz-lk5bf 2 месяца назад +7

    Eggman had a very great life until Dr Starline brought him back

  • @JoshuaNorth-yc5bx
    @JoshuaNorth-yc5bx 6 месяцев назад +6

    2:44 honestly this moment gives me a shiver up my spine. What if Mr. Tinker is less of just the product of eggman's amnesia, but rather a glimpse at who he was (in this timeline at least) before all the destruction? Perhaps eggman land *was* just an amusement park at one point, something simple. Like this is his inner self, that even with something as benign as an amusement park, we can see it in that shadowy silhouette, that it all starts small. Like they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions

  • @lucyarmy8879
    @lucyarmy8879 6 месяцев назад +2

    Even when later he get his memory back, he was... Nostalgic, because he knew that he was happy with that. Life

  • @fbisecretinvestigation6522
    @fbisecretinvestigation6522 Год назад +15

    Totally out of subject, but I really liked your video on dr finitevus. Made me discovered a great character, one of my favorites of the Sonic media tbh. Keep on the good work bro

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  Год назад +1

      Thanks I really appreciate it! I hope you enjoy the videos going forwards!

  • @101mystic101
    @101mystic101 5 месяцев назад +4

    Eggman's poor wooden daughter needs closure or at least get Eggman to actual express some guilt abandoning her! Her story so far is just heart breaking![

  • @Gaster_021
    @Gaster_021 7 месяцев назад +3

    The version of Eggman that was truly appreciated by the citizens of their world

  • @robtheone2689
    @robtheone2689 Месяц назад +2

    3:00 I haven't even finished the video and I've only just gotten a single look at this puppet character, but they are so goddamn cute, and i want to know everything about them.

  • @SonicChaocc
    @SonicChaocc 6 месяцев назад +2

    Kinda weird that all it took to make Dr. Robotnik evil again was to touch Metal Sonic. But then again touching the best Sonic rival would make you want to defeat that darn hedgehog.

  • @JDPSTFO
    @JDPSTFO 6 месяцев назад +3

    So thats where that eggman wearing pink clothes that i saw on one of lytheros moded dbz fighter videos came from

  • @lordofvillains9412
    @lordofvillains9412 6 месяцев назад +1

    mr.tinker is a homage to doctor Ivo kintobor the kindly persona of the villain before he became Robotnik/eggman.from fleetway and the promo comic for the first game

  • @randoapplebigcheese6169
    @randoapplebigcheese6169 6 месяцев назад

    Awww his love of his son brings back his memories, thats wholesome

  • @bibigon1349
    @bibigon1349 6 месяцев назад +2

    you never disappoint, cool videos eggain and eggain

  • @Aibadenshi
    @Aibadenshi 4 месяца назад +2

    It`s would be neat to bring him back as a split personality in a robot/clone body.

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 4 месяца назад +4

    For some reason Mr Tinker reminds me of Simon Petrikov. Though maybe the more accurate comparison would be Professor Yana

  • @changvasejarik62
    @changvasejarik62 2 месяца назад +2

    Is it wrong that I now want to see the sonic version of animal farm?
    Is it even worse I’d want to see Ken P. adapt the story?

  • @antionelong699
    @antionelong699 2 месяца назад +1

    Man I miss mr tinker

  • @EthanBryant-n9g
    @EthanBryant-n9g 6 месяцев назад +2

    Dr.Starline looks like a ducktails character

  • @Chrome.Seraph
    @Chrome.Seraph Год назад +9

    I have a random question about IDW's Sonic the Comic. Where is Mighty the Armadillo? I've only read the IDW comics and way way WAY back on the day the UK Sonic the Comic of the 90s. Mighty used to be the leader of the Chaotix Crew in the UK comics but IDW only has Victor, Charmy and Espio. I understand Mighty isn't really a member of the Chaotix but even as a separate thing, where is he?

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  Год назад +4

      so completely off my head I think Mighty has only shown up in a minor role in a side story with Amy. He for sure has a much smaller role in the IDW comics than his presence in some other media.

    • @qmchale5130
      @qmchale5130 Год назад +2

      IDW may not use Mighty on account of him being a "classic era" character. Sega, for some reason, doesn't want to use classic characters in modern storylines, which is weird.

    • @gustavomartins364
      @gustavomartins364 Год назад

      ​@@qmchale5130He is dead.

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 6 месяцев назад +1

      Mighty is a complicated story. He was from a totally different game attached to a popcorn machine (yes, really) before being added in as one of the playable characters in Knuckles' Chaotix. Fleetway adapted the Chaotix into their Sonic comic, and they included Mighty. When Sonic Heroes brought the Chaotix back, it chose to focus on the three original characters from that game (with Heavy and Bomb being exclusded because lol. lmao.) due to the game's focus on three hero teams. Mighty was left to rot after that until Sonic Mania Plus, where he was brought back for the game's Encore Mode.

  • @ronybakale5310
    @ronybakale5310 7 месяцев назад +4

    3:32 that's a platypus? I assume that it was duck

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah apparently he's a platypus

    • @VoodooVDO
      @VoodooVDO 5 месяцев назад +1

      Does he own a fedora?

    • @Draedon126
      @Draedon126 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@VoodooVDOPERRY THE PLATYPU-

  • @purpisfulnanogetic4251
    @purpisfulnanogetic4251 6 месяцев назад

    Oh huh. This reminds me of a my little pony / sonic xover with eggman running away from mobius and slowly becoming a pony who created tinker toys, married and had a child, and wanted to stay with the ponies as he was accepted as his own.

  • @Mothlord03
    @Mothlord03 Год назад +7

    Starline is a platypus?? I assumed he was a duck (i don't read the comics tbf)

    • @anthonyguarino4242
      @anthonyguarino4242 Год назад +8

      Curse you, Starline the Platypus!

    • @notatallfunctional
      @notatallfunctional 7 месяцев назад +2

      He doesn’t even have a platypus tail

    • @Mothlord03
      @Mothlord03 7 месяцев назад

      @@notatallfunctional I never thought about that at the time

  • @GenesisZennox
    @GenesisZennox 6 месяцев назад

    I would love to see eggman entire fleet again lol

  • @trent7258
    @trent7258 Год назад +5

    Let’s gooo

    • @FantasticSamtastic
      @FantasticSamtastic  Год назад

      The real MVP showing up to this video before I even remembered it came out lol

  • @gtcproductions4097
    @gtcproductions4097 6 месяцев назад

    4:11 That’s funny

  • @SparklingJam
    @SparklingJam 8 месяцев назад +1

    Eggain

  • @Skyfish93
    @Skyfish93 5 месяцев назад

    0:10;
    "Aha-ahaha- ONE!"