The pilot was told to abort the mission early when the control room Detected the Patriot homing on his target! By the time the Patriot fired, the Su jet was already flying back evading. The Ukrainians fired late due to the short range of the Patriot in their possession. That pilot was lucky God saved him. That tells u that Ukraine is no fly zone for Russian aircraft. It's one way ticket to hell.
@@mzerk9324 it a hard place to fly with high chance you got kill every mission but it not to the point of impossible, they still manage to pull of many mission from time to time, saying that it a no fly zone it just ignorant
The fact that they defeated patriot missiles in a Su-34 is so much more amazing... The Su-34 is a heavy and big bird compared to other aircraft in use. And to go over G in one of these is crazy...
This is essentially an example of being outside the hard kill range. They were far enough out they could turn and fall back while burning hard and causing the missile to lose energy. This is both a great example of pilots defending and also of aerial denial. The missile system successfully denied access to the airspace even if it failed to get a kill while the Russian pilots did a great job defending to avoid becoming that kill.
@@ireallycant4416 flares doesn't effect radar guidance, it's chaff. I think it's the tactic they used to defend against surface to air missiles, it's the teamwork with the controller and of course the chaff made it possible to dodge it.
@@circleboi4900 Chaff does nothing to pulse doppler radars, this was all a kinematic defeat. The Su-34 is pretty maneuverable actually too, moreso then you would expect it to be because it has such a huge lift area
Те кто не понимает, почему пилот так тяжело дышит - во время маневров на высокой скорости, пилот истребителей 4+ поколения (1985-й год выпуска и моложе) может испытывать перегрузки 7G и более.... Это все равно что вес вашего тела увеличивается в 7 раз, ваша кожа с лица сползает вниз, а вместе с тем и кровь из головы отливает в конечности и если это произойдет, то пилот потеряет сознание. Подобное дыхание + напряжение тела помогают удержать кровь в голове, при этом пилоту еще нужно управлять самолетом, оценивать ситуацию вокруг и держать связь с базой..... Короче.... Пилоты истребителей это сверх люди.
The G's would've been crazy! And that, too, sustained for quite a while. One could easily hear their exhaustion near the end after pulling all those manoeuvers.
@@SL4Y3Rvне надо было вырезать. Там он говорит про боль в груди(перегрузка или G) и про боль в руке. Из-за жёсткого напряжения он так сильно держал штурвал, что это начало причинять боль
@@Petrarka0 Nope, "обороты"(oboroty) google translates as 1)revolutions and 2)rpm. But for me as Polish guy this is in this context multiple form of the word "оборот"="turnover" ->he orders him to make evasive maneuvers with maximum g-forces->because the rockets were already losing speed and had limited maneuverability due to the fact that they had already run out of fuel. The Ukrainians were in a hurry, if they had waited 30 seconds to launch, the Su-34 would not have made it(but maybe it would be able to finish its mission so...).
@@Bialy_1 ukies don't operate such advanced systems. Coalition specialists do. It takes years of training to produce adequate AA crews, not to mention they wouldn't trust the locals with access to such advanced info. Same goes for the hundreds of satellites & all other advanced systems like himars, cruise missiles, HAARM, EW, and ISR platforms. There may be upwards of 100,000 foreign mercs & naot militarians .
@@proteous8100 Is that why Russia has air superiority over the rear line and is conducting interdiction strikes on the western border? Oh wait, they're not, and keep getting shot down by Patriot.
If they could coordinate other nearby jets equipped with Kh-31P/PDs to conduct an anti-radiation strike on the Patriot site or pass the coordinates to other strike forces (Iskander, Tornado MLRS, or even Lancet teams) it would have been even better
Да, тоже было интересно глянуть 😃 Слушал запись давно, когда FB у себя опубликовал. Вот для чего нужна манёвренность Су-27, управляемый вектор тяги, скорость и высший пилотаж!
@@berkozyurek6948 im playing warthunder 11 years trust in some case its near simulation im playng with usa butt for me its far better er 77 usa its slower aim 120
God damn, imagine both 754 and 813 took imense G force while trying to evade 3 Patriot missiles. The relief must have been absolutely phenomenal. Superb work from both air control and pilots.
@@traitoR142 Tell that the to the dozens-per-month of other Russian jets, helicopters, drones, and planes that bit the dust with Patriot missiles. This guy only got lucky in the fact that he was far enough away to actually be ABLE to defend... Most are NOT so lucky. They are literally the most advanced AA missile systems on the planet. They can even shoot at ballistic missiles (moving AWAY from them, like the US shot down one of its own Minuteman III ICBM's with them a several months ago) and it can shoot down ATTACKING missiles. Here's a direct quote from the Redstone Arsenal Historical Information site: "The PATRIOT is the U.S. Army's most advanced air defense system. Capable of defeating both high performance aircraft and tactical ballistic missiles, it is the only operational air defense system that can shoot down attacking missiles."
on thing to point how, it was very accurate how the ground team manage to accurte report the 3 SAM lunches with precession. this was one hell of ride, credits deserve for the ground crew and pilots.
The Su-34 had a wingman Su-35, he was the one shouting about maneuvering as he was tracking the action too. Presumably, Su-35 fired an anti radiation missile (Kh-31) at the Patriot's radar site. Controller was giving heading, distance and altitude. Controllers wouldn't flood your radio with alerts and call you "bro", a wingman would. What probably saved the Su-34 was dropping the ordonnance on the target before going defensive.
@@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я It's released in the direction of the approximate launch, and then it detects and selects its target when it emits. Interesting theory. Sounds effective, but dangerous.
@@yoOga War is dangerous and yes, he would have locked it initially then fire and forget. It will adjust if able to see the emit, or it will hit where it was locked originally.
@@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я Kh-31 can detect at much farther than that, it is designed to detect radar source and home on it. Su-35 got the alert from the Kh-31 and the Su-34 got a RWR spike which you can clearly hear in the audio.
I saw the interview of this on TG from the crew, they were really humble and said their survival is due to the controllers. They were maneuvering so much that they lost all sense of situational awareness and they only thing that they could do was not black out and listen to what the controller was saying. In the end there, the last patriot did detonate but I think because of the angle of attack of the missile vs angle of attack of the aircraft, the damage was repaired the next day (it only caused loss of comms between the pilot and co-pilot, but they could communicate with control still and land fine).
@@delali-dz I spent half an hour looking at TG channels lookiNg for it but there's so much spam of the Kursk/Niu York right now that it's impossible even with the search function. Sorry! You might be able to find it in RUclips (the interview of the tank crew that held against a column by themselves as the only tank [w/ inf&arty sup] is available in youtube so I assume this one will be too).
@@maksimluzin1121 I can't recall what variant Ukraine has. Based on the Kalibrs and Geran interception by Patriot Missiles they're PAC-2 (vicinity detonation) variant. Otherwise if it's not the PAC-2 we would not be getting photos of Kalibr warheads pushed off-course by a Patriot. The above theory means that the Patriot technically 'hit' the aircraft, and didn't miss per say (as its not designed to detonate on impact) but Aircraft's angle and velocity meant the damage was minimal. If the aircraft was not as fast as it was, or not at the angle that it was, this would be a differnt video.
@@fidel4023 , Any air defense system (ADS) has own probability for target interception. Less than 1.0 for all of them. The Ru ADS have the probability between 0.85-0.95, but not 1.0. This is why Any ADS send Two missiles, at least, for any One Valuable target.
@@akm6019какие-то кадры разрешают рассекретить, какие-то увидите только по окончанию боевых действий. Там просто есть элемент испытания средств подтверждения и поражения цели.
It is worth mentioning that the pilot had also disobeyed the order to abort the mission and had actually launched the guided bomb before he started to egress
@@Crimsenreign13 yep, although it does not follow from the record (the pilot obviously decided that it would be better to ask for forgiveness than permission)) - it was disclosed later
I bet this guy has become as a legend in Russia as is in the United States this one USAF F-16 pilot in the Gulf War that evaded six SAMs, some SA-6's and some SA-3's, all kinematically, without flares/chaff. Maybe some ECM was involved, but I can't find it literature thay mentions it. Considering that the Patriot PAC-3 CRI is much more advanced then the export-only version of the SA-6 that the Iraqis had in the Gulf War, I think that we can lower the limit to three. Politics aside, this was impressive.
@@IgrikShit We all care. Those American / German / French / UK / ... taxpayers are all collectively depleting the Russian army. If not, they are sure to invade other, European countries. But i guess you are too dumb to understand.
@@IgrikShit Not really. It is paid for under lend lease. Ukraine is gonna be an American puppet state after this conflict is over and they will have the rights to most of Ukraine's farmland. Really a strategic failure on Putin's part. His paranoia directly caused the exact thing he was paranoid about to manifest itself.
This proves that aircraft maneuverability is still extremely important despite what a lot of "experts" say. Same like they said the guns are obsolete in Vietnam, remember that? And it also destroys the notion of the Patriots superiority. I mean it already was highly doubtful after the Kinzhal incident and the misfires in SA but whatever.
So a GBAD with missiles that are over three decades out of date of which 1/3 malfunction, which managed to stop a modern airframe from completing it's tactical mission and incurred tens of millions of dollars of losses to the enemy via frame damage, maintenance time and jettisoned munitions, while Russian GBAD keeps getting taken out by FPVs and MLRS, doesn't mean NIM-104 is a better system?
If they weren't pilots, they would have died too. and if they had been on a World War II plane, they would have died too. your comment is as obvious as the two examples above (without negativity)
@@yujinhikita5611agreed, unless you have the ability to see the exact position and heading of the missiles a lot of luck is required to survive 3 missiles in a row
Yeah. If the ground control told him of the missile launches even just 5 seconds later than they did, he wouldn’t have bled enough energy from the missiles to survive.
cold analysis: they can realize the best missile ever made, but still great pilot + great aircraft are above all. And I know su34 it's a bomber, not properly a fighter jet, but it's a great aircraft in terms of maneuvering despite its weight. And by the way this is the best video I saw about this episode, I could feel so much adrenaline, so sick!
No, Stroke 3 dodged 6 SAM's and had malfunctioning countermeasures. Also, the Su-34 took some shrapnel and lost its crew communication system, while Stroke 3 wasn't hit. Nowhere near the same level.
@@StefanBlagojevic Brother they shot down a single first generation stealth plane by sheer luck while it had it's bomb bay doors open. Stealth isn't perfect, but it sure as hell works.
I want to add some context: Firstly, if the Russian air controller hadn't spotted and notified the Su-34 as soon as he did, the Su-34 would likely have been killed. How do we know this? The Su-34 had its crew communication system damaged by shrapnel, the missile was close enough to "tickle" the plane but not close enough to kill it. Being that close to cause damage suggests that the missile, if it had even a little more energy near the target, would have maneuvered closer to the plane for a more catastrophic result. I also see some people claim that because the Patriot failed to kill the Su-34 since it's a "bomber" (implying it is fat and slow) that indicates that the Patriot is somehow worse. Let's clear something up, the Su-34 is not a "bomber" strictly speaking, it is a "fighter bomber". For comparison, the F-16 has a maximum take-off weight of 19,187 kg, the Su-27 has about 30,450 kg, the F-15 has about 30,844 kg, and the Su-34 has about 45,100 kg. For further comparison, the F-15 has a maximum speed of Mach 2.5 and the Su-34 has a maximum speed of Mach 1.8. The Su-34 is not some kind of propeller-driven behemoth that flies at only several hundred kilometers per hour, it is a supersonic, maneuverable aircraft that is also designed to accommodate heavy combat loads. Furthermore, the air controllers say the Patriot is at least 80km away from the aircraft. Now let's get rid of our propaganda and bias, and see what factual, real conclusions we can draw from this. 1) The Patriot engaged the Su-34 at the edge of the "kinematic envelope", meaning the range at which if a target is far enough away and maneuvers, the kill is unlikely. we know this by the fact that the Patriot exploded close enough for the pilot to see the explosion and also close enough to damage the crew communication system, but also not close enough to destroy the plane. 2) The Russian air controller (potentially AWACS crew) reacted very quickly and was most likely the deciding factor in saving the aircraft. 3) The Patriot successfully denied the combat operations of the Russian aircraft, as evidenced by the Russian air controller denying combat clearance and then guiding the Su-34 away from the combat zone, and the Su-34 most likely jettisoning its combat load to more effectively escape the missile (standard practice to make an aircraft more maneuverable and faster when evading missiles). So, what factors led to the Su-34 surviving? 1. Patriot launching a few seconds too soon. 2. Russian air controller responding and directing the Su-34 away from the combat zone quickly. 3. The Russian pilot following air controller instructions, and pushing himself to the limit with his speed and maneuvering to kinematically defeat the missiles. 4. Luck that the shrapnel that did hit the plane didn't hit anything critical and only damaged the communications.
no confirmation that shrapnel damaged communication. more likely from over G. and we don’t know the altitude of the su34 so the kinematic envelope is also unknown.
its very unlikely that shrapnel would damage communications and thats about it. More likely over G's would. You can calculate how much time and kilometers they gained onto the missile. so 80km isnt the very limit. They were evading a missile for 4 minutes at max speed you would travel about 130km... and they still were near the missile. In 4 minutes patriot at max would travel 264km. Ofc they were not hitting max speed majority of the time, but patriot missiles are clearly in killzone at 80km range. When their max is 80 miles and without fuel they can travel about 100 miles which is 160km - 80km isnt the end of kinetic envelope, its actually a high probability killzone launch. The su34 was saved thanks to awacs and good and well trained pilots and great reaction, communication. Otherwise if any one of these things went wrong or were lacking, su34 would have been shot down.
Patriot is not the best . Atleast for fighter / manavurable objects . It was first meant for an anti ballistic missile role . But some modifications made it for anti aircraft too . Still not best tho
@@Akuma-kg6hgThats Not the Most relevant point about Patriot, it is designed to fight odds at big altitude, once the SU 34 descend a lot and enough far is almost impossible for the Patriot‘s own radar to Follower properly the SU Thats all.
there is a reason attack aircraft built based on su 27 at least su 34 is very maneuverable as attack air craft not sure any other attack aircraft vs 3 patriot awesome video bro
If the controller hadn't seen the launch as soon as he did, the su34'd be shot down. A patriot missile at max range barely defeated only due to the instant reaction time from the pilot and controller sure says something about the quality on both sides here.
If that pilot didn’t have ground control telling him exactly when the patriot launched, or if they had told him even just a few seconds later than they did, this title would be veeeery different.
"over 350 other Russian fixed-wing pilots" - Your numbers are an absolute lie. As for your assumptions. It’s obvious that Russians are not idiots and use safety systems all the time. Likewise, for this reason, you will not see the Ukrainians using a static air defense system near the front line, because otherwise it will be quickly destroyed. This is a game of tactics, not just weapon technical characteristics of the weapon.
Gotta give credit to the Russians they may not have the best military, but what matters is that they’re learning from their past mistakes and applying new and refining existing strategies to survive in modern warfare
The SU 34 is being used as the vehicle to drop fab 1500 and fab 3000, Russian modified glide bombs from far enough distance away from the threat of air defence. These Fabs are bieng released from up to 10 to 35 km from its target.
"The bomb, although planning, in fact, flies along a ballistic trajectory. I know that FAB-250 - FAB-1500 fly at a range of about 60-70 kilometers. FAB-3000 - it all depends on the height and speed of the bomb drop. I think it is within about 50-60 kilometers, because it is heavier, its ballistic coefficients are slightly different," the agency interlocutor explained. At the same time, he separately stressed that the bomb is capable of flying "at least" 50-60 kilometers, since otherwise combat aircraft would fall into the range of Ukrainian air defense.
I don't know know who told the pilot to come left at 2.05 and then gave him the optimal heading of 120 to evade the missiles my guess another pilot flying cover he gave him the seconds he needed to go on living he was calm and precise no shouting very professional.
i like the idea of this video, but gotta say you choose one of the most complicated ways to identify whose talking. Should of just used different colors, or better yet, just put the identity next to the text.
That's misunderstanding due to mistake in translation in the end. The ground control asked 853 are u on 754. What was mean is the change radar on other frequency because after 3 missile their common communication link was damaged and ground console did not hear them. However some people translated it like 853 is the 754 with u, because they were thinking that numbers is the planes I'd for this mission
The animation is incorrect. The meaning of the maneuver just before the impact of a rocket with an active GOS is that the plane turns from the rocket at the ground above the very surface of the earth at 90 degrees from the rocket. Because of this, the signature of the aircraft begins to merge with the signature of the waves reflected from the ground.
Stealth could make them avoid being spotted in the first place. The biggest problem with stealth is it can be defeated. It's not magic, there are means to see stealth jets.
@@Levon_RnDstealth doesn’t mean invisible, u’ll just appear smaller on the radar but one mistake and they’ll be able to lock on u just like how F117 was defeated in serbia from a 60s missile
It was so intense that when ground control started to repeatedly shout "Maneuver!" I started to maneuver my own ass in the chair!
aaahahaha
😂
Маневрируй, маневрируй!!
HAHAHAHA
same here :lmfao
Amazing job by the pilots and control.
Indeed
Su-34 got shut down by STRONG PATRIOT MISSILE today ruclips.net/video/Vtvbf8sfLeQ/видео.htmlsi=SAv8dVJnirv9bAvD
The pilot was told to abort the mission early when the control room Detected the Patriot homing on his target! By the time the Patriot fired, the Su jet was already flying back evading. The Ukrainians fired late due to the short range of the Patriot in their possession. That pilot was lucky God saved him. That tells u that Ukraine is no fly zone for Russian aircraft. It's one way ticket to hell.
@@mzerk9324Ukrainians do not operate these systems
@@mzerk9324 it a hard place to fly with high chance you got kill every mission but it not to the point of impossible, they still manage to pull of many mission from time to time, saying that it a no fly zone it just ignorant
Any Maverick movie falls far short of the adrenaline level of this 4-minute short!
I agree.
Bro my heart was pounding.😢😅
Well said. And not even to mention it was 4 missiles... the 4th died shortly after the third
@@TruthPrevail777same
Tal cual !!!!😅
The fact that they defeated patriot missiles in a Su-34 is so much more amazing... The Su-34 is a heavy and big bird compared to other aircraft in use. And to go over G in one of these is crazy...
good thing it's got beefy engines if I'm not mistaken
Несмотря на то, что СУ-34 тяжелый, он все равно достаточно манёвренный
@@thestranger7679 That is what makes Sukhoi planes so good and sexy
the launch distance was pretty far. He got lucky they spotted them so early
This is essentially an example of being outside the hard kill range. They were far enough out they could turn and fall back while burning hard and causing the missile to lose energy. This is both a great example of pilots defending and also of aerial denial. The missile system successfully denied access to the airspace even if it failed to get a kill while the Russian pilots did a great job defending to avoid becoming that kill.
Crazy how a bomber managed to dodge 3 patriot missile barrage
Flares a lot of flares
@@ireallycant4416 flares doesn't effect radar guidance, it's chaff. I think it's the tactic they used to defend against surface to air missiles, it's the teamwork with the controller and of course the chaff made it possible to dodge it.
@@circleboi4900 yep chaff
@@circleboi4900 Chaff does nothing to pulse doppler radars, this was all a kinematic defeat. The Su-34 is pretty maneuverable actually too, moreso then you would expect it to be because it has such a huge lift area
@@signs80chaff does affect pulse Doppler if used correctly when notching it allows you to evade missiles that have anti notching technology.
Everyone gangsta until RITA say «скорость предельная»
lol good one
that su34 was going in a dive with afterburner, i can imagine why the comp went nuts with skorost predelnaya.. ))
а таймкод можно, а то я не могу никак услышать
@@simplysity46741:54
Maneuverability is not needed today they said
One of my friends is such a fanboy of the US that believe me, he said manoeuvrability is useless
Heeee because not have
Same how Americans geniuses convinced themselves in Vietnam era that aircraft guns are no longer needed,
Russians always prove American geniuses wrong
Completely underrated comment!
@@Me-hg2rg I know many like this unfortunately...
Те кто не понимает, почему пилот так тяжело дышит - во время маневров на высокой скорости, пилот истребителей 4+ поколения (1985-й год выпуска и моложе) может испытывать перегрузки 7G и более.... Это все равно что вес вашего тела увеличивается в 7 раз, ваша кожа с лица сползает вниз, а вместе с тем и кровь из головы отливает в конечности и если это произойдет, то пилот потеряет сознание. Подобное дыхание + напряжение тела помогают удержать кровь в голове, при этом пилоту еще нужно управлять самолетом, оценивать ситуацию вокруг и держать связь с базой..... Короче.... Пилоты истребителей это сверх люди.
The G's would've been crazy! And that, too, sustained for quite a while. One could easily hear their exhaustion near the end after pulling all those manoeuvers.
@@nilnull5457 True, I did cut the last 1-2min incase you haven't heard the entire audio; it is linked in the description
Yes they were breathing hard from the maneuver
@@SL4Y3Rvshut down today Su-34 piloted FSB, BY STRONG PATRIOT MISSILE. ruclips.net/video/Vtvbf8sfLeQ/видео.htmlsi=SAv8dVJnirv9bAvD
@@SL4Y3Rvне надо было вырезать. Там он говорит про боль в груди(перегрузка или G) и про боль в руке. Из-за жёсткого напряжения он так сильно держал штурвал, что это начало причинять боль
That was one hell of a workout for the pilot. Max RPM and hard manoeuvres. Hat off to the pilot and tracking crew on this one.
Woah that "maximum speed" gives an idea how mad that might have been. wtf
For context its mean "overspeed" warning from "bitchin betty"
@@Petrarka0 there is no bitching betty in russian planes, its rita
@@czapla1900 There would be angry babushka for sure.
@@Petrarka0 Nope, "обороты"(oboroty) google translates as 1)revolutions and 2)rpm.
But for me as Polish guy this is in this context multiple form of the word "оборот"="turnover" ->he orders him to make evasive maneuvers with maximum g-forces->because the rockets were already losing speed and had limited maneuverability due to the fact that they had already run out of fuel.
The Ukrainians were in a hurry, if they had waited 30 seconds to launch, the Su-34 would not have made it(but maybe it would be able to finish its mission so...).
@@Bialy_1 ukies don't operate such advanced systems. Coalition specialists do.
It takes years of training to produce adequate AA crews, not to mention they wouldn't trust the locals with access to such advanced info.
Same goes for the hundreds of satellites & all other advanced systems like himars, cruise missiles, HAARM, EW, and ISR platforms. There may be upwards of 100,000 foreign mercs & naot militarians .
And ignorant haters say SU-34 is garbage...just proved them wrong. Seems the other way around. Btw, that patriot got iskander prize afterwards.
2 NIM-104 launchers have been destroyed in Ukraine, of which 0 were destroyed by Iskander.
@@ArchOfficial Lies, majority of US-made patriot SAM AA systems were destroyed by Iskander-M strikes.
@@proteous8100 Is that why Russia has air superiority over the rear line and is conducting interdiction strikes on the western border?
Oh wait, they're not, and keep getting shot down by Patriot.
only reason they were able to evade is because they detected the missile launch and ended up at the max range of the missile
“It's not the plane, it's the pilot"
Props to the AWACS for the early warning and guidance
If they could coordinate other nearby jets equipped with Kh-31P/PDs to conduct an anti-radiation strike on the Patriot site or pass the coordinates to other strike forces (Iskander, Tornado MLRS, or even Lancet teams) it would have been even better
@jackyzou630 they may have done so, it's not like it's just one guy in the back of this plane
The aerial warfare is probably the most underlook aspect of the russo ukrainian war
its the most secretive one...involving insane amounts of MIC-money thats on the line...
@@simonschneider5913mic?
@@jamesgoldring1052 "military industrial complex".
@@simonschneider5913 oh ya never seen the initialism before
Mb bro
@@jamesgoldring1052 it was you asking...so...idk what youre going for now..
This is so well made! May your subscribers be many and the haters be few
Appreciate the kind words
@@SL4Y3Rv Hey I'm not a hater but... Could you please increase the font size? It seems the video was made for ants bro 😅
@julienckjm7430 you're not wrong 😂
Dude...that has to be one of the scariest experiences ever.
You can literally see death approaching from your six.
Спасибо что сделал этот ролик. Я слушал его ранее. Но ты хорошо все нарисовал. Еще мне интересно было почитать коментарии иностранцев. Быть добру
А я подумал, что это запись с украинского монитора!😂
Да, автору ролика респект!
Так точно!
Да, тоже было интересно глянуть 😃 Слушал запись давно, когда FB у себя опубликовал. Вот для чего нужна манёвренность Су-27, управляемый вектор тяги, скорость и высший пилотаж!
Жаль что террорист выжил
@@Sa300dvideo но это су-34
doing these maneuvers at max speed in warthunder would disintegrate the plane into atoms
Wt has shit fm and modeling
Warthunder is only an arcade game, not a simulation.
@@berkozyurek6948 im playing warthunder 11 years trust in some case its near simulation im playng with usa butt for me its far better er 77 usa its slower aim 120
@@berkozyurek6948Its sort of simcade
@todorsavic9296 rvv ad Germany mains attack the d point attention to the designated grid square doing a loop can help get you on your opponents tail
God damn, imagine both 754 and 813 took imense G force while trying to evade 3 Patriot missiles. The relief must have been absolutely phenomenal. Superb work from both air control and pilots.
The two-seater cabin of the Su-34 is surrounded by a shell of titanium armor 17 mm thick, the mass of armor protection is almost one and a half tons
sorry to tell you but it would still get shot down by missiles, the same thing would happen to the a-10
these patriot missiles are no joke, props to the pilots.
One got shot down by air defence units
@@MS-wz9jmmisinformation
Honestly they don't seem overly impressive. Against an inferior power sure, against a like power ? Average.
@@traitoR142 Tell that the to the dozens-per-month of other Russian jets, helicopters, drones, and planes that bit the dust with Patriot missiles. This guy only got lucky in the fact that he was far enough away to actually be ABLE to defend... Most are NOT so lucky.
They are literally the most advanced AA missile systems on the planet. They can even shoot at ballistic missiles (moving AWAY from them, like the US shot down one of its own Minuteman III ICBM's with them a several months ago) and it can shoot down ATTACKING missiles. Here's a direct quote from the Redstone Arsenal Historical Information site:
"The PATRIOT is the U.S. Army's most advanced air defense system. Capable of defeating both high performance aircraft and tactical ballistic missiles, it is the only operational air defense system that can shoot down attacking missiles."
@@traitoR142you're a little dense if you think this isn't impressive. It's not a game. There's so much that went into this.
Вспотел пока смотрел
on thing to point how, it was very accurate how the ground team manage to accurte report the 3 SAM lunches with precession.
this was one hell of ride, credits deserve for the ground crew and pilots.
It was not a ground crew, but an AWACS A-50
@@ghertil9235 AWACS OP we need hypersonic AA missiles with 1.000km+ range to defeat those.
@@DzinkyDzinkone got reckless and went south of Crimea and got taken down lmao, but yeah they’re very useful
@@profinneupane6883cool story bro
i heard one of the missile got downed by another russian sam aswell
The Su-34 had a wingman Su-35, he was the one shouting about maneuvering as he was tracking the action too. Presumably, Su-35 fired an anti radiation missile (Kh-31) at the Patriot's radar site. Controller was giving heading, distance and altitude. Controllers wouldn't flood your radio with alerts and call you "bro", a wingman would. What probably saved the Su-34 was dropping the ordonnance on the target before going defensive.
How can a fighter's radar detect a launch at a distance of 80 kilometers? The missile shape is small. Is this possible?
@@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я It's released in the direction of the approximate launch, and then it detects and selects its target when it emits. Interesting theory. Sounds effective, but dangerous.
@@yoOga War is dangerous and yes, he would have locked it initially then fire and forget. It will adjust if able to see the emit, or it will hit where it was locked originally.
@@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я Air ground control can see it and would have given a heads up to the unit
@@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я Kh-31 can detect at much farther than that, it is designed to detect radar source and home on it. Su-35 got the alert from the Kh-31 and the Su-34 got a RWR spike which you can clearly hear in the audio.
The madness and cold calculation of Russian pilots is amazing! The deepest respect for talent and courage!
great video mate, i always wondered how the geographical situation looked after hearing only the audio - well done thanks
Thank you brother
I saw the interview of this on TG from the crew, they were really humble and said their survival is due to the controllers.
They were maneuvering so much that they lost all sense of situational awareness and they only thing that they could do was not black out and listen to what the controller was saying.
In the end there, the last patriot did detonate but I think because of the angle of attack of the missile vs angle of attack of the aircraft, the damage was repaired the next day (it only caused loss of comms between the pilot and co-pilot, but they could communicate with control still and land fine).
can u link the interview pls!
The ground-to-air missiles are usually self-detonating if they miss an aircraft or at the end of their trajectory (max range).
@@delali-dz I spent half an hour looking at TG channels lookiNg for it but there's so much spam of the Kursk/Niu York right now that it's impossible even with the search function. Sorry! You might be able to find it in RUclips (the interview of the tank crew that held against a column by themselves as the only tank [w/ inf&arty sup] is available in youtube so I assume this one will be too).
@@maksimluzin1121 I can't recall what variant Ukraine has. Based on the Kalibrs and Geran interception by Patriot Missiles they're PAC-2 (vicinity detonation) variant. Otherwise if it's not the PAC-2 we would not be getting photos of Kalibr warheads pushed off-course by a Patriot.
The above theory means that the Patriot technically 'hit' the aircraft, and didn't miss per say (as its not designed to detonate on impact) but Aircraft's angle and velocity meant the damage was minimal. If the aircraft was not as fast as it was, or not at the angle that it was, this would be a differnt video.
@@fidel4023 , Any air defense system (ADS) has own probability for target interception. Less than 1.0 for all of them. The Ru ADS have the probability between 0.85-0.95, but not 1.0. This is why Any ADS send Two missiles, at least, for any One Valuable target.
3:25 buddy saw the grim reaper and said "nah i'd win"
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После вылета ракет, по позиции пуска патриота прилетел подарок, но он увернуться не сумел.
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хотелось бы увидеть доказательства
@@ОлегШелухин-ь8эони обнаружили патриот по его пуску, туда прилетело что то уверен, ну я не видел доказательств тоже
@@akm6019какие-то кадры разрешают рассекретить, какие-то увидите только по окончанию боевых действий. Там просто есть элемент испытания средств подтверждения и поражения цели.
Sukhoi: you're missile are my dancing partners
That's piloting. - Septimus Pyecroft
This is the very best graphical representation on YT right now! Thank you!
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It is worth mentioning that the pilot had also disobeyed the order to abort the mission and had actually launched the guided bomb before he started to egress
Para aminorar el
Peso excesivo de las bombas sino no hubiera podido maniobrar
Did he actually? I missed that
@@Crimsenreign13 yep, although it does not follow from the record (the pilot obviously decided that it would be better to ask for forgiveness than permission)) - it was disclosed later
That probably saved his life. HE wouldn't be able to maneuver or go as fast with the payload onboard.
Sergey really did survive huh...
Just like top gun but ruski version. Big ups to you for putting all this together!
Haha thank you bro, glad you liked it
the missiles in top gun 2 were so unrealistic compared to real ones
@----870 "the missile knows where it is"
is that a wingo reference?
only its actually real
I bet this guy has become as a legend in Russia as is in the United States this one USAF F-16 pilot in the Gulf War that evaded six SAMs, some SA-6's and some SA-3's, all kinematically, without flares/chaff. Maybe some ECM was involved, but I can't find it literature thay mentions it. Considering that the Patriot PAC-3 CRI is much more advanced then the export-only version of the SA-6 that the Iraqis had in the Gulf War, I think that we can lower the limit to three. Politics aside, this was impressive.
This is not an isolated incident, but unfortunately everyday life in war. It's just that this time it's on the net.
In that incident it was SA2 even older then SA6. In other instances when SA6 was used, the F16 s went down
@@flotr6465 looks like we were both wrong. They were SA-3's AND SA-6's, not only SA-2's and not only SA-3's.
Я из России, про этот случай узнал из этого канала на YT только сейчас.
Darüber weiß niemand auser piloten und stützpunkt. Die tun ihr job🇷🇺🤝♥️
Ukraine = - 9,900,000 dollars.
Russia = - 9400 tons of fuel.
It's American taxpayers' money, so who cares.
@@IgrikShit We all care. Those American / German / French / UK / ... taxpayers are all collectively depleting the Russian army. If not, they are sure to invade other, European countries. But i guess you are too dumb to understand.
@@IgrikShit Not really. It is paid for under lend lease. Ukraine is gonna be an American puppet state after this conflict is over and they will have the rights to most of Ukraine's farmland. Really a strategic failure on Putin's part. His paranoia directly caused the exact thing he was paranoid about to manifest itself.
9,4 tons or 9400kg
And they got tonnes of it to spare
This proves that aircraft maneuverability is still extremely important despite what a lot of "experts" say. Same like they said the guns are obsolete in Vietnam, remember that? And it also destroys the notion of the Patriots superiority. I mean it already was highly doubtful after the Kinzhal incident and the misfires in SA but whatever.
Love the video man. Very well done.
To be fair Ukraine dont have the newest patriots the US has but the pilots did very good no doubt especially in a su 34.
maneuverability is needed even in close combat. The chance for medium-range missiles is 50 percent. If you miss, you can engage in close combat.
Who is here after videos of patriot getting destroyed by iskander
So a GBAD with missiles that are over three decades out of date of which 1/3 malfunction, which managed to stop a modern airframe from completing it's tactical mission and incurred tens of millions of dollars of losses to the enemy via frame damage, maintenance time and jettisoned munitions, while Russian GBAD keeps getting taken out by FPVs and MLRS, doesn't mean NIM-104 is a better system?
if they reacted a few seconds too slow or had too much altitude or didn't manurver enough it would have spelled their doom.
If they weren't pilots, they would have died too. and if they had been on a World War II plane, they would have died too. your comment is as obvious as the two examples above (without negativity)
@@snr_kvas all im saying is they got lucky
@@yujinhikita5611agreed, unless you have the ability to see the exact position and heading of the missiles a lot of luck is required to survive 3 missiles in a row
Yeah. If the ground control told him of the missile launches even just 5 seconds later than they did, he wouldn’t have bled enough energy from the missiles to survive.
@devendoffiinng7004 in the world of aviation 5 seconds is huge if the ground control responded 0.5 seconds later they could have died
I was very impressed that they could get away with such a big plane
They fired them too early so pilot was able to leave the kill zone...
@@Bialy_1 too early? They were 80 km...40 km within the effective patriot range. Any closer and the patriot let's then hit the target
@@Crimsenreign13 thats the problem with older patriot missiles.
Is anyone else exhausted after listening and watching this ??
Better than any movie I’ve ever seen
@@mhariga50 Many great people
guys the breathing is not just adrenalien, its to combat G forces as all pilots do when they're doing crazy maneuvers. look up "hick maneuver"
I always found this one of the most beautiful planes.
Amazing video! This needs to get adapted into a Movie short o at least a well made DCS video
I’m a ground guy but this helped me understand the situation a hell of a lot more. Thank you!
Viva Rusia, sus Valientes soldados y todos sus Profesionales equipos. Rusia, nacion fuerte y unida. Nunca sera vencida!
The evasion action is incredible and how the maneuvers produce immense pressure on the pilot (G-Force) that makes him appear agitated.
whos here after war thunder trailer?
hearing the pilots intense heavy breathing and ground control emotions and then the relief at the end, wow that was something !
That gave me shivers, people fighting for dear life, also incredible that they managed to evade it.
cold analysis: they can realize the best missile ever made, but still great pilot + great aircraft are above all. And I know su34 it's a bomber, not properly a fighter jet, but it's a great aircraft in terms of maneuvering despite its weight. And by the way this is the best video I saw about this episode, I could feel so much adrenaline, so sick!
It should be noted that this is the help of a A-50 AWACS aircraft. SU-34 dosent have the airborne early warning suites the SU-35 has
There's a few terminology things.. Egress right is probably better translated as, break right. "Work denied" would be just "abort"
Maximum speed!!!!... those turbo jet engines did their maximum performance when most needed ....... incredible!!
"Closing in , 80, 50 , 30" I'm changing my underpants
The audio makes it even more stressing than Stroke's 3 video in Irak.
No, Stroke 3 dodged 6 SAM's and had malfunctioning countermeasures. Also, the Su-34 took some shrapnel and lost its crew communication system, while Stroke 3 wasn't hit. Nowhere near the same level.
@@Lukyanbut f 16 is one or not the most manoeuvrable fighter. Its apple to orange
@@Lukyan IMAGINE comparing sam to patriot
is it that bad of a system lmao
@@George_Washington_ mate patriot is a sam system lol??
@@Aexgamer48 its bit modern Iraqis used ones from 1960s to 1970s do different things.
wow my heart rate is racing just watching this
thanks for ur work on it !
I give those pilots some insane credit, the adrenaline must've been something else!
I didn't know A-50U AWACS can track Patriot missiles! 😱😱😱
Modern awacs can track most things if they're not stealthy
@@Aaron-ru6ld I'm not worried about stealthy, as Serbia already gave an answer to that myth with their Soviet made 1960's Anti Aircraft tech.
@@StefanBlagojevic Brother they shot down a single first generation stealth plane by sheer luck while it had it's bomb bay doors open. Stealth isn't perfect, but it sure as hell works.
@@Aaron-ru6ld Not sheer luck, they had observers tracking it since takeoff. Otherwise they'd not have been able to even detect it.
Most AWACS can burn through stealth.
bro even right after the Maneuver had time to say " thank you for watching"
@@gorkie6998 Worth it for people like you who appreciate it
I want to add some context:
Firstly, if the Russian air controller hadn't spotted and notified the Su-34 as soon as he did, the Su-34 would likely have been killed. How do we know this? The Su-34 had its crew communication system damaged by shrapnel, the missile was close enough to "tickle" the plane but not close enough to kill it. Being that close to cause damage suggests that the missile, if it had even a little more energy near the target, would have maneuvered closer to the plane for a more catastrophic result.
I also see some people claim that because the Patriot failed to kill the Su-34 since it's a "bomber" (implying it is fat and slow) that indicates that the Patriot is somehow worse. Let's clear something up, the Su-34 is not a "bomber" strictly speaking, it is a "fighter bomber". For comparison, the F-16 has a maximum take-off weight of 19,187 kg, the Su-27 has about 30,450 kg, the F-15 has about 30,844 kg, and the Su-34 has about 45,100 kg. For further comparison, the F-15 has a maximum speed of Mach 2.5 and the Su-34 has a maximum speed of Mach 1.8. The Su-34 is not some kind of propeller-driven behemoth that flies at only several hundred kilometers per hour, it is a supersonic, maneuverable aircraft that is also designed to accommodate heavy combat loads. Furthermore, the air controllers say the Patriot is at least 80km away from the aircraft.
Now let's get rid of our propaganda and bias, and see what factual, real conclusions we can draw from this.
1) The Patriot engaged the Su-34 at the edge of the "kinematic envelope", meaning the range at which if a target is far enough away and maneuvers, the kill is unlikely. we know this by the fact that the Patriot exploded close enough for the pilot to see the explosion and also close enough to damage the crew communication system, but also not close enough to destroy the plane.
2) The Russian air controller (potentially AWACS crew) reacted very quickly and was most likely the deciding factor in saving the aircraft.
3) The Patriot successfully denied the combat operations of the Russian aircraft, as evidenced by the Russian air controller denying combat clearance and then guiding the Su-34 away from the combat zone, and the Su-34 most likely jettisoning its combat load to more effectively escape the missile (standard practice to make an aircraft more maneuverable and faster when evading missiles).
So, what factors led to the Su-34 surviving?
1. Patriot launching a few seconds too soon.
2. Russian air controller responding and directing the Su-34 away from the combat zone quickly.
3. The Russian pilot following air controller instructions, and pushing himself to the limit with his speed and maneuvering to kinematically defeat the missiles.
4. Luck that the shrapnel that did hit the plane didn't hit anything critical and only damaged the communications.
You know they critize the very concept of Su-34 because Americans are doing just fine with F-16 and F-18 doing most of the ground attack missions.
no confirmation that shrapnel damaged communication. more likely from over G. and we don’t know the altitude of the su34 so the kinematic envelope is also unknown.
well patriot is kinda garbage but for sure is dangerous for an aircraft like Su-34 which is 50%+ heavier than f-16
another questions is which type of Patriot Ukraine have and which missile did they use
its very unlikely that shrapnel would damage communications and thats about it. More likely over G's would.
You can calculate how much time and kilometers they gained onto the missile. so 80km isnt the very limit. They were evading a missile for 4 minutes at max speed you would travel about 130km... and they still were near the missile. In 4 minutes patriot at max would travel 264km. Ofc they were not hitting max speed majority of the time, but patriot missiles are clearly in killzone at 80km range. When their max is 80 miles and without fuel they can travel about 100 miles which is 160km - 80km isnt the end of kinetic envelope, its actually a high probability killzone launch. The su34 was saved thanks to awacs and good and well trained pilots and great reaction, communication. Otherwise if any one of these things went wrong or were lacking, su34 would have been shot down.
Patriot missions are 4 million each and the plane is 34 millions… already paying for itself
Every month there's something just crazy coming out from Ukraine, this was certainly one of the more interesting ones, thanks for the animation o/
Пэтриот смог сбить только борт который вез украинских пленых на обмен. Видео крутое где пэтриот поражается искандером))))
Damn Russians can really fly those shovels!
"supermaneuverability is not needed today"
* inhales copium *
even the best air defense can be evaded
Isn't that the point of air defense?
To deter enemy from operating in one's airspace.
@nicolaswirtzs-400 is not considered the best air defense anymore after lots of failed intercepts
Patriot is not the best . Atleast for fighter / manavurable objects . It was first meant for an anti ballistic missile role . But some modifications made it for anti aircraft too . Still not best tho
@@Akuma-kg6hgThats Not the Most relevant point about Patriot, it is designed to fight odds at big altitude, once the SU 34 descend a lot and enough far is almost impossible for the Patriot‘s own radar to Follower properly the SU Thats all.
@@ScottNguyenRCAC sometimes you physically cannot shoot them down
You can feel the pilot struggle 😮
Incoming "muh Russian propaganda" allegations
This is why we stay away from Reddit
What propaganda? You can clearly see everything on this REAL LIFE VIDEO.. illustration.
@@DDOD25 you have no idea how much of a sore loser Americans can be
Maybe you are just mad cos America getting down
@@DDOD25I think he's stating the obvious trolls that always comes that shows any Russian perspective
Молодцы ребята! Низкий поклон!
The stress in the breathing. That was insane. The need for discipline during that time was peak.
And also the effect of G force.
there is a reason attack aircraft built based on su 27
at least su 34 is very maneuverable as attack air craft
not sure any other attack aircraft vs 3 patriot
awesome video bro
Thank you!
@@SL4Y3Rv ur welcome bro
hopefully the war end soon
@@supriadiramlan5545amen
Amazing. Thanks for illustration 😮
If the controller hadn't seen the launch as soon as he did, the su34'd be shot down. A patriot missile at max range barely defeated only due to the instant reaction time from the pilot and controller sure says something about the quality on both sides here.
not ground controller but AWACS
That pilot is one hell of a guy
Yeah....so, anyone with even the slightest understanding of how the Patriot works will know that it didn't dodge a Patriot.
Reality isn't like WT.....
The best ASMR
3:23 you can hear the explosion of the missile. It was right behind them!
War thunder moments
Amazing piloting skills for sure!
Real life top gun.
If that pilot didn’t have ground control telling him exactly when the patriot launched, or if they had told him even just a few seconds later than they did, this title would be veeeery different.
A-50 AWAKS
Too many ifs...
@@barraberson really just one “if” that over 350 other Russian fixed-wing pilots didn’t have that lead to them dying.
"over 350 other Russian fixed-wing pilots" - Your numbers are an absolute lie. As for your assumptions. It’s obvious that Russians are not idiots and use safety systems all the time. Likewise, for this reason, you will not see the Ukrainians using a static air defense system near the front line, because otherwise it will be quickly destroyed. This is a game of tactics, not just weapon technical characteristics of the weapon.
@@devendoffing7004 I see nowadays ukro bots can make up any number from thin air.
Its all fun and games until you find a match!
@nicolaswirtz Ukraine
@nicolaswirtz ukraine didnt exist back then
@@Vjecni Strictly Speaking, as an INDEPENDENT nation? No. But as an Ethnicity, Culture, and an Autonomous Republic (Ukrainian SSR), Yes.
great pilot skills and also GCI
the fuck you mean CGI
@@irinaluchianova3015 He meant Ground-controlled interception or GCI. Please use your eyes little bro
It was an AWACS. not gci
@@irinaluchianova3015lmaooooo
@@jollyroger8671 i dont think so bc there is a patriot long range SAM battery
so a powerfull GCI radar can dedtect and track the patriot missiles
Gotta give credit to the Russians they may not have the best military, but what matters is that they’re learning from their past mistakes and applying new and refining existing strategies to survive in modern warfare
They have the best military now I guess
@@Akella1986 They have the second best military in Russia. After Ukrainian Army. But they are learning.
@@DDOD25lol, then why has Ukraine been fighting for a year not with its own weapons, but with the weapons of its patrons?
@@DDOD25Yeah Russian Telegram channels show otherwise and with photo and video proof lol.
Alot of dead Ukrainians in their Bulge offensive.
@@DDOD25 Bro, stop smoking weed))
it sounds like a ground station or AWACs is guiding them instead of the pilots using onboard systems to evade
Great pilots.
The SU 34 is being used as the vehicle to drop fab 1500 and fab 3000, Russian modified glide bombs from far enough distance away from the threat of air defence. These Fabs are bieng released from up to 10 to 35 km from its target.
"The bomb, although planning, in fact, flies along a ballistic trajectory. I know that FAB-250 - FAB-1500 fly at a range of about 60-70 kilometers. FAB-3000 - it all depends on the height and speed of the bomb drop. I think it is within about 50-60 kilometers, because it is heavier, its ballistic coefficients are slightly different," the agency interlocutor explained.
At the same time, he separately stressed that the bomb is capable of flying "at least" 50-60 kilometers, since otherwise combat aircraft would fall into the range of Ukrainian air defense.
Good video, what a shame it was made for ants.
Bro could you increase the font size ??
Thanks for the animation. It's far more clear in this way.
Военлёты крутые ребята! победа будет за РФ! всем мир!
I don't know know who told the pilot to come left at 2.05 and then gave him the optimal heading of 120 to evade the missiles my guess another pilot flying cover
he gave him the seconds he needed to go on living he was calm and precise no shouting very professional.
i like the idea of this video, but gotta say you choose one of the most complicated ways to identify whose talking. Should of just used different colors, or better yet, just put the identity next to the text.
Appreciate it. I get that, just the translation isn't mine and borrowed from Command T; his translation was the neatest one I found.
That's a very skilled SU-34 pilot, reminds me of that F-18 pilot.
you mean the f16 "stroke 3" pilot?
amazing!!!
I have seen multiple people reacting on this and they agreed on the second plane - probably a SU-35 (813) missing in your description.
That's misunderstanding due to mistake in translation in the end. The ground control asked 853 are u on 754. What was mean is the change radar on other frequency because after 3 missile their common communication link was damaged and ground console did not hear them. However some people translated it like 853 is the 754 with u, because they were thinking that numbers is the planes I'd for this mission
Could you please make the red text even less legible? I can still manage to read it, next time make it completely unreadable
The animation is incorrect. The meaning of the maneuver just before the impact of a rocket with an active GOS is that the plane turns from the rocket at the ground above the very surface of the earth at 90 degrees from the rocket. Because of this, the signature of the aircraft begins to merge with the signature of the waves reflected from the ground.
warthunder trailer was so fire they had to remake it irl
Controller is A-50 (AEW&C)
And this is the reason why maneuverability is a much more important characteristic to them than stealth.
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@@linsen8890 wow what a comment, give me something harder
@@pavlematovic2116 It's the only comment your stupidity deserves.
Stealth could make them avoid being spotted in the first place. The biggest problem with stealth is it can be defeated. It's not magic, there are means to see stealth jets.
@@Levon_RnDstealth doesn’t mean invisible, u’ll just appear smaller on the radar but one mistake and they’ll be able to lock on u just like how F117 was defeated in serbia from a 60s missile
Ace Combat moment when AWACS warns you of incoming missiles/laser beams