Since many people don't read descriptions, ill put it here aswell: the cockpit is of a SU27 because the mod isnt well made, its just external model, and by default uses the su27 internal cockpit, dont mind it. Thank you for watching! If you want to join my discord server: discord.gg/HC9NYJ85BF
The level of professionalism and skill the Controller and Pilots showed was amazing. All around, they kept it tight and clean and the plane and its folks made it back home alive.
They panic way too much, and the yelling is not helping the radio be any more clear, examples from USAF comms during high stress situations isn't perfect but they do not yell over the radio.
@@illusions4559 Russian way of speaking is very different to yours. I'm Serbian so i don't know Russian that well but i don't feel any panic here at all, just a guy giving his best and his copilot and ground control helping him.
The missiles were defeated kineticaly. Su-34 cranked the missiles out to their maximum range and by the time they reached him they were mostly out of energy. He was basically outrunning them by the end. Good controlling and teamwork made this possible and he has a lot of friends to thank.
@@N.D.1984 Depends on the missile used. There are 4 different missiles that Patriot can fire. It's not clear which ones were fired in this instance. It's also not clear whether the systems supplied to Ukraine were Pac-2 or Pac-3.
@@lhagidutythe missile motors runs out of thrust fairly quickly, after that the missile still flys but gradually loses energy due to air resistance, especially when it has to make turns to follow aircraft maneuvers. Eventually the missile looses enough energy and speed, and the aircraft can outrun it, yes.
What a wonderful machine, and what excellent pilots and controllers! That machine is not small at all, and yet it was able to evade the best US anti-aircraft system, not one, not two, but three missiles! Another victory for the Su-34 bomber! The adrenaline of any Maverick movie falls short of these 4 minutes video!
The mission of the AA crew was to deny the airspace. They succeeded. This is mission was a failure. They may have survived, but they weren't avke to deliver their payload.
@@aaroncabatingan5238 considering how many times daily SU34's bomb, they'll just RTB and go again, you can rearm a su34 but you can't instantly get 5 new missiles from the US
You know... while im glad that god is there to protect him... It kind of also made me question... Aren't both side mostly believe in christ? Why are brothers of the same believes figthing each other? And why does god allow such horrible things to happen?
@@yumanorfolk3103 Because in words of Jeffrey Sachs, in his interview with Tucker Carlson, the Neocons in power over at U.S., said "We are the sole superpower and we can do anything", decided to stage a coup i Kiev, oust the legal president Yanukovich and kickstart an ANTI-RUSSIA state of Ukraine. This came to pass on FEBRUARY 21/22 2014 coup, "unknowns snipers" started killing both protesters and police and after the initial agreement on a new presidential election, signed and guaranteed by France, Germany and Poland with current president of Ukraine suddenly was "forgotten it ever existed" after local police pulled back from guarding the Government quarter area of Kiev and the Banderites/NeoNazis moved in swiftly ignoring all what was signed the other day. Europe stayed silent and Yanukovich suddenly found himself on the run for his life. A;; the blood spilled on Maidan was "Just as planned" in words of Jeffrey Sachs a non Christian was brought in as a president, a Khazar called Zelensky. Russian language that was legally part of the Ukrainian constitution was expunged, so was Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Moscow Patriarchate and everything from city name changes was forced, people that were still clinging to their own beliefs and morals started getting persecuted, eastern and southern parts of the country said screw this and the "Government" decided to do something about it and so we have people dying since 2014 at the hands of Ukrainian and Nazi Azov hands... until Russia decided to do something about it...
@@yumanorfolk3103russia has been trying to change the society in Ukraine by national Principe to be russian for hundreds of years. There is no christ in russia, maybe some blood god. I think it was great when you needed video games to imagine war in Europe again. Now russia makes the decision to hit apartment buildings with ordinance. The best skilled pilot is still evil, if he chooses to apply his skill in wicked ways. Plus, their bomb kits apparently sometimes malfunction, and they drop the fab inside russia. Cruel to others, cruelest to their own seems to be their motto. I think Jesus is on the side of the patriot missile.
@@danialnajmuddin3729 it did have them, the pilot thought he was popping flares and chaff, and manurvering with it, but when they RTB'd all his flares were still full.
i mean it can reach quite the speed and the platform based in su30 family, but upsized enough to have two pilots side by side. regardless it's a big fighter bomber
Apparently the loads were jettisoned, thats why controller said clearance denied, it would be stupid to attempt something like this with dead weight onboard
@@N.D.1984 pretty sure fighter bomber released this audio, its definitely 3 different sources in the chatter between ground control and the 35s with KH31p covering it, literally one of the only audios etc like it released i have the entire audio clip saved its like almost 8 mins long
The Khibiny electronic countermeasure system is a Russian jamming device designed to disrupt the operation of enemy radar and other electronic systems. It is used primarily on aircraft to protect them from radar-guided missiles and other threats. The Khibiny system works by emitting jamming signals that interfere with radar and communication systems, making it harder for the enemy to track and target the aircraft. It is an advanced system that reflects Russia's focus on electronic warfare capabilities.😊
Creo que no existirá algo comparable al pánico y adrenalina al maximo que puede experimentar un piloto de combate cuando sus sistemas de advertencia le avisan del lanzamiento de un SAM y su inminente derribo; ahora dependerá de las habilidades , entrenamiento , y destrezas del piloto en poder ejecutar maniobras evasivas con alta carga G en - y + para poder evadir la persecución de los misiles. En este caso logro hacerlo con éxito pero fisiológicamente puso su cuerpo al límite y se escucha lo exhausto que queda después de tal proeza.
DEI would be drinking Coca Cola, and Saying '' Maybe there's some missiles coming towards you, i don't know, i have to watch this new show that just released on Netflix, So carry on''
After that patriot crew launch three missles they are detceted by A-50 if that anti radar didnt hit from Su- 35 probably they got Iskander on their ass.
Maaaan.... the skill of the pilots is.... wwwoooowwww. Also - keeping in mind that we're talking about Su 34 - a medium BOMBER with the basis mass (crew and loaded cannon) of 22.500 kg...
Knowing Americans, they will steal this story & include it in a Hollywood movie but switch the roles... Showing an American pilot heroically evading Russian missiles lol
The heavy breathing is what pilots have to do to keep the blood and oxygen in the brain with the G forces they have to work with, it's almost crazy how much pressure they have not to pass out, that's why pilots go through strenuous medicals before they can fly these crazy machines
So...80km is roughly 43 nautical miles. If you are at 300m (1,000ft) altitude, the MPQ-53 radar horizon on you should be around 14nm. What is interesting is that someone with ESM (Il-22 or A-50U, possibly a Krahsuka) is 'hearing' the secondary guidance channel (X-Band) come up, separate from the C-Band Patriot engagement radar. That indicates a PAC-2 GEM-T or GEM-C missile running TVM-SARH. Yet, if the Fullback's pilot has the jet at 25,000ft (UMPK typical release altitude for a 15-18nm gliding flyout) and immediately jettisons his ordnance, the Su-34 should be able, with a 20,000fpm descent rate, to get below the Patriot RS engagement cone before the Mach 4 = .73nm/min PAC-2 can complete its ~59 second time of flight to get to him. With little effort. i.e. The Hell Duck should be able to get to low level, breaking radar track, long before the Patriot can complete its intercept. And certainly before the second salvo of missiles can complete the same or longer distance. Given how much G-strain we hear, as late in the recording, something is being edited or wrongly interpreted here. Were part of the missile launches in fact PAC-3? Was the LS seriously displaced, forward from the RS?
Su-34 might not want to go below angels 20 because then it comes under fire from other shorter range defense systems including Manpads. There might be other tracking stations further out that relays information to the patriot missile. But I have no idea if Ukraine this networking technology. Also at what range does the missile start to guide itself?
@@WinchesterDelta1 What you say makes sense, but my understanding, limited as it is, was that the Su-34 were being restricted to frontal use as BAI platforms and not going deep because the UMPK is not the 60-70km capable system (from 45,000ft) that they wanted it to be and without an added propulsor, the VKS were not interested in risking their equivalent to our F-15E, crossing the FLOC. There should not be any MPAD on the Russian side of the line. We know that the Ukrainians use the MPQ-64 Sentinel radar which is a small, X-Band, FAAD system, designed to gapfill at low level, for NASAM and Stinger. But does it have integration with the Patriot site? I dunno. It's only got about 15-20nm of range on a good day and IBCS was only approved for full rate production last year. Poland has this capability, with the British CAMM missile. But not Ukraine. As for lockon range...Only PAC-3 has the active seeker and it's Ka band which is not as longranging as X-Band. But it must be pretty good as it's designed to engage ballistic targets closing at up to 2 miles per second. That would actually suggest better than the AMRAAM seeker which is ~12nm. PAC-3 is a lot bigger missile, so it likely has the volume, antenna area and electrical power to push a powerful beam. What seems strange is that the Ukrainians would risk the Patriot batteries so close to the front but not the NASAMS. NASAMS, with the AMRAAM-ER, will reach 20,000ft and is also a pretty zippy missile, albeit over shorter ranges. It is also substantively cheap. Being little more than a universal box launcher on a truck (far more suitable for use than a trailer mounted TEL, if you are that close to Iskander and Smerch...) So if you fly right up to FLOC or FSCL and release the UMPK from there... You could get bit. MPQ-53 is a very powerful radar. MPQ-65 is almost 50% more so than the 53. It would be very hard to mistake one for the other or for the MPQ-64. And the AMRAAM seeker is unique again (very high power X-Band set-on), so you're left wondering, is this a close-in missile being given guidance from a very far away engagement radar? If so, where is the SAP-14 carrying escort jammer Su-34? Where are the Su-35 Weasels with Kh-31? It's even been stated that the Buk-M3 is being used against Patriots themselves. There are solutions to this problem but, 'as described' the narrative doesn't make sense for the depth of penetration or nature of the PAC-2/Fullback intercept geometry at the opening of the engagement.
My understanding is that the SU-34 was jumped by the oldest trick in the IADS book - Patriot was holding off emissions, until the aircraft was declared in the kill zone by the EWR command center. That would be the best explanation for the complex evasions, instead of just hitting the throttles and gently turning away. And if you closely inspect this channel - the recreation, is cinematic at best. Dodging 6 SAMs in a Viper still sounds more impressive :D
Did you try to copy the range of the launches? I believe they first called out 80km on the first missile. Also, doesn't make sense for the Su-34 to be in afterburner on the way to combat, additionally, according to the controller it wasn't in max rpm until he instructed the pilot to do so.
that was interesting... I wonder how things play out in real life. I also a 3D map of the path of the missile and the jet would be cool. A recreation of F-4 Wild Weasels and Vietcong would be cool.
@@TOx1CC yeah sure. I want a recreation video of F4 phantoms Wild Weasel squadron vs Vietcong SAM missiles from the Vietnam War. That's a cool story. This video reminded me of that.
I hope after that Russian Air Force will begin working on upgrading the Su-34s engines and EW systems. They are working on installing AL-41F1S into Su-30SM and so this upgrade isn't impossible for SU-34.
Me gustaría saber la identidad de éstos grandiosos pilotos del SU 34, para felicitarlos por su gran trabajo, solo en la Madre Rusia se producen estos grandiosos peleadores.
I think he had more speed than you see on this simulation and did even more aggressive maneuvers. The higher the speed of the aircraft the higher the G's.
Why the pilot maneuvers so early left and right loosing energy with the missile so far? shouldn't it be safer to go away straight down as fast as possible to make missile loose energy in denser atmosphere? and get defensive only if missile gets near him?
@@ThePretender1 That's why I edited it that way, but irl I don't know if he was just catching his breath or actually manoeuvering, we'll never know for sure until video recording
Because it can regain it's speed and the missile can't. You want to defend as early as possible. How earlier you defend how more the incoming missile has to correct.
Not at these distance you only need descend to unlock the Patriot station, the misile seeker only IS acurate in short range, IS the station at first Who guided the missile.
Not ground crew, but an AWACS AN-50. They know the general location of the patriots missile launcher, hence easier to lock at specific area for any missile launch signal.
Man that was something! Skilled pilot. The su34 is a bit of a bargain when you think about it, it's used mainly as a bomber, can escort itself and dodge missiles all for about 30 million bucks
Since many people don't read descriptions, ill put it here aswell:
the cockpit is of a SU27 because the mod isnt well made, its just external model, and by default uses the su27 internal cockpit, dont mind it.
Thank you for watching!
If you want to join my discord server: discord.gg/HC9NYJ85BF
Go talk to Spino or CH. Both are excellent modders. Maybe they can set you up with an accurate cockpit.
Yeah i came just to comment about the incorrect cockpit, nvm
Fantastic recreation!! I heard the audio before but seeing brings everything to life!! Great pilot....very happy they survived!!
The cockpit thing breaks the immersion, great video though
And btw at the end, "Victor da normal ?" Means Victor u ok?
the fact that he could survive 3 sam's with a fighter/bomber is impressive
It's Sukhoi's jet.
Imagine the G-Force he's taking in while thinking, communicating, and maneuvering
With the SU-34? Probably 7G
You could hear the grunting in his voice every time he maneuvered.😮
@@burnedbacon3989 7g is the airframe design limit, but pilots can take the airframe beyond limits in dire situations
@@chiefdenis if he disables the g-limiter, sure
@@burnedbacon3989are you a SU-34 Pilot?
The level of professionalism and skill the Controller and Pilots showed was amazing. All around, they kept it tight and clean and the plane and its folks made it back home alive.
They panic way too much, and the yelling is not helping the radio be any more clear, examples from USAF comms during high stress situations isn't perfect but they do not yell over the radio.
@@illusions4559 If you would speak russian you would understand that they are speaking very clear and the loudness isnt changing anything
@@illusions4559 you would be shitting yourself if a rfucking patriot was coming for you wise tf up
@@illusions4559 Russian way of speaking is very different to yours. I'm Serbian so i don't know Russian that well but i don't feel any panic here at all, just a guy giving his best and his copilot and ground control helping him.
@@illusions4559 Ameri cope as usual.
For rest of his life he is gonna remember this hour written in his logbook.
The missiles were defeated kineticaly. Su-34 cranked the missiles out to their maximum range and by the time they reached him they were mostly out of energy. He was basically outrunning them by the end. Good controlling and teamwork made this possible and he has a lot of friends to thank.
What's the range of these missiles?
@@N.D.1984 patriot have a 💩💩💩 missile system
@@N.D.1984 Depends on the missile used. There are 4 different missiles that Patriot can fire. It's not clear which ones were fired in this instance. It's also not clear whether the systems supplied to Ukraine were Pac-2 or Pac-3.
So you saying you can outrun them? Wouldnt that be too easy? Is maneuvering play into this escape? Maybe patriot been fired from too far?
@@lhagidutythe missile motors runs out of thrust fairly quickly, after that the missile still flys but gradually loses energy due to air resistance, especially when it has to make turns to follow aircraft maneuvers. Eventually the missile looses enough energy and speed, and the aircraft can outrun it, yes.
What a wonderful machine, and what excellent pilots and controllers! That machine is not small at all, and yet it was able to evade the best US anti-aircraft system, not one, not two, but three missiles! Another victory for the Su-34 bomber! The adrenaline of any Maverick movie falls short of these 4 minutes video!
@@marioq70 thank you brother!
The mission of the AA crew was to deny the airspace. They succeeded.
This is mission was a failure. They may have survived, but they weren't avke to deliver their payload.
@@aaroncabatingan5238 considering how many times daily SU34's bomb, they'll just RTB and go again, you can rearm a su34 but you can't instantly get 5 new missiles from the US
5 missiles were launched. 3 at the beginning and then 2 more during
😂😂😂😂
🤡💩.
Eres fan de top gum? 😂@@aaroncabatingan5238
Su-34 is freaking gorgeous..absolutely perfect proportions and lines
Yeah sculpture for me.
"Haha, suck my legs!"
What a intense and emotional exchange. Russian pilots really excel at flying.
You serious lol? Flying into the ground?
@@pretty00lights you mean those 10000 american aircrafts lost in vietnam to rice farmers?
@@pretty00lightsyeah we serious
@@pretty00lights The reality might be much more different than what you see on your media.
"... come on brother..."
That is a powerful and revealing statement by the controller.
Incredible hearing the clean communication between the aircrew and ground operators.
Wonderful recreation of the incident. And hats off to the fighter crew and the controller.
Это не истребитель, а фронтовой бомбардировщик
3:59 Jesus Christ... " COME ON BROTHER, EVADE, MANOUVER!!!" Them Russian pilots had a great guardian angel that day.☦
You know... while im glad that god is there to protect him... It kind of also made me question... Aren't both side mostly believe in christ? Why are brothers of the same believes figthing each other? And why does god allow such horrible things to happen?
@@yumanorfolk3103 Because in words of Jeffrey Sachs, in his interview with Tucker Carlson, the Neocons in power over at U.S., said "We are the sole superpower and we can do anything", decided to stage a coup i Kiev, oust the legal president Yanukovich and kickstart an ANTI-RUSSIA state of Ukraine. This came to pass on FEBRUARY 21/22 2014 coup, "unknowns snipers" started killing both protesters and police and after the initial agreement on a new presidential election, signed and guaranteed by France, Germany and Poland with current president of Ukraine suddenly was "forgotten it ever existed" after local police pulled back from guarding the Government quarter area of Kiev and the Banderites/NeoNazis moved in swiftly ignoring all what was signed the other day. Europe stayed silent and Yanukovich suddenly found himself on the run for his life. A;; the blood spilled on Maidan was "Just as planned" in words of Jeffrey Sachs a non Christian was brought in as a president, a Khazar called Zelensky. Russian language that was legally part of the Ukrainian constitution was expunged, so was Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Moscow Patriarchate and everything from city name changes was forced, people that were still clinging to their own beliefs and morals started getting persecuted, eastern and southern parts of the country said screw this and the "Government" decided to do something about it and so we have people dying since 2014 at the hands of Ukrainian and Nazi Azov hands... until Russia decided to do something about it...
@@yumanorfolk3103because we humans have free will and god dont interferes with our free will, only give us choices which are up on us to take or not
@@yumanorfolk3103nations are not men. You don't know His plan.
@@yumanorfolk3103russia has been trying to change the society in Ukraine by national Principe to be russian for hundreds of years. There is no christ in russia, maybe some blood god. I think it was great when you needed video games to imagine war in Europe again. Now russia makes the decision to hit apartment buildings with ordinance. The best skilled pilot is still evil, if he chooses to apply his skill in wicked ways. Plus, their bomb kits apparently sometimes malfunction, and they drop the fab inside russia. Cruel to others, cruelest to their own seems to be their motto. I think Jesus is on the side of the patriot missile.
Russian pilots displayed hardcore skills I wouldn't mess with them
Now the seat by seat desighn makes sense.
Its for the pilots to "hi five" when returning safe home !
INTENSE! Some great communications between those guys
Reminds me of that U.S. pilot who dodged 6 SAM launches over Bagdad during the Gulf War. The rockets were far less advanced back then.
And it was a f-16 as well, a very manouvrable fighter
This however was a su-34, a fighter bomber
6 SAM launches while f-16 doesn't pop up flares and chaff only relies on maneuver but what kind of model SAM do Iraq deployed ?
@@danialnajmuddin3729 Soviet anti-air missiles from the 60-70s
@@danialnajmuddin3729 sa 2s
@@danialnajmuddin3729 it did have them, the pilot thought he was popping flares and chaff, and manurvering with it, but when they RTB'd all his flares were still full.
Keep working, our flying brothers. Good luck, come back safely.
Keep in mind that the plane is a slow bomber, not an agile fighter. Makes it even more impressive.
i mean it can reach quite the speed and the platform based in su30 family, but upsized enough to have two pilots side by side. regardless it's a big fighter bomber
It's over mach 2 capable, hardly a slow bomber, its more comparable to an f-15 than a bomber. It sacrifices some mobility for size but not much.
Bro was hauling @ss and pulling major Gs - much respect.
You made it out there alive Sky-King.
This dude is going to have nightmares for a month
The real Su-34 carried payloads while maneuvering. It was even harder
Not true. They were instructed to abort. Which means automatic weapons dump.
Really? So even more bad@$$ then.
Apparently the loads were jettisoned, thats why controller said clearance denied, it would be stupid to attempt something like this with dead weight onboard
@@chiefdenis Груз не был сброшен куда попало. Задание было отменено до того как они сбросили груз.
This was in tandem with the cover fighter a SU35S which lobbed a anti radar back at them, NASAMS and patriots were working on them.
where did u get this info ?
Sources please
@@N.D.1984 pretty sure fighter bomber released this audio, its definitely 3 different sources in the chatter between ground control and the 35s with KH31p covering it, literally one of the only audios etc like it released i have the entire audio clip saved its like almost 8 mins long
@@Corefailure24 yeah, fighterbomber, who released original video, mentioned that in the telegram
@@Corefailure24 how you know it? They talk about an S-35?
That incident is some Ace Combat type shit
Can't wait for this to be re used in the next CoD game
lmao
It probably be "usa plane evade 3 s-500 missiles.
This game give american war crimes to Russia and russian acts of heroism to USA.
@@trololoevhighway of death moment fr
@@trololoev It's pure propaganda really, I would be surprised if people did not know this but then again, it's aimed at young americans
@RubberFacee 🤣🤣
"Evading missiles"
Games: 0_0
Simulator: 💀
Real life: 🔥💀🔥
Agree.
Nice work. Fitting tribute to some brave guys!!
thank you!!
tribute to nazis?
@@hopeyouhavinganiceday nah this is a tribute to the Russian pilots not the ‘Bandera-boys’ learn your history..
@@hopeyouhavinganiceday no, i dont see any ukrainian flag
You missed the last segment of the audio. Viktor had his own comment to make.
true
where can i find it?
SUCK OUR LEGS *******
Aplausos para ese piloto. Increíble su capacidad.
The Khibiny electronic countermeasure system is a Russian jamming device designed to disrupt the operation of enemy radar and other electronic systems. It is used primarily on aircraft to protect them from radar-guided missiles and other threats. The Khibiny system works by emitting jamming signals that interfere with radar and communication systems, making it harder for the enemy to track and target the aircraft. It is an advanced system that reflects Russia's focus on electronic warfare capabilities.😊
Creo que no existirá algo comparable al pánico y adrenalina al maximo que puede experimentar un piloto de combate cuando sus sistemas de advertencia le avisan del lanzamiento de un SAM y su inminente derribo; ahora dependerá de las habilidades , entrenamiento , y destrezas del piloto en poder ejecutar maniobras evasivas con alta carga G en - y + para poder evadir la persecución de los misiles. En este caso logro hacerlo con éxito pero fisiológicamente puso su cuerpo al límite y se escucha lo exhausto que queda después de tal proeza.
y el su-35s dandole animos nombrado 813 que ataco la bateria patriot
That pilot is fortunate he doesn’t have DEI controllers
Hahahaha
DEI would be drinking Coca Cola, and Saying '' Maybe there's some missiles coming towards you, i don't know, i have to watch this new show that just released on Netflix, So carry on''
After that patriot crew launch three missles they are detceted by A-50 if that anti radar didnt hit from Su- 35 probably they got Iskander on their ass.
Следующее видео Патриот против F16
один ф-16 уже проиграл
That's piloting. - Septimus Pyecroft
"just noch bro" They said 💀
What a Beast!
Russians are heroes of the civilised world!!!
russians aren't civilised
Professional, skilled, bit of luck of course Patriot missiles are hard to defend, but great evading and getting home alive 💪
The pilots have a wonderful story for their grandkids.😊
thats intense
Fact his plane is predominantly a bomber aircraft ... He did an amazing job.
Lqbt kid hahah russia is losing
Meanwhile russia:
but russia actually loses, they were born as cannon fodder only to feed ukrainian forest
Glory to the aerospace forces!
Heavy breathing. To many damn gees
That fat jet is impressive.
Maaaan.... the skill of the pilots is.... wwwoooowwww.
Also - keeping in mind that we're talking about Su 34 - a medium BOMBER with the basis mass (crew and loaded cannon) of 22.500 kg...
This is the model that apparently has a mini kitchen on board....and still evading like a boss.
glory to those who said ground based control and interception is useless
Great job, thanks. But if you could have showed the explosions of the messiles it could have been more susbence.
Thanks a lot.
Knowing Americans, they will steal this story & include it in a Hollywood movie but switch the roles... Showing an American pilot heroically evading Russian missiles lol
That already happened 60 years ago in Vietnam
Why the cockpit is just like su 27 or something
@@shadowhawk9158 read description, su34 mod is just a vismod, uses the su27 base SFM
Read brother damn
Great Pilots!
a tac view overlay would be a great addition to this!
The heavy breathing is what pilots have to do to keep the blood and oxygen in the brain with the G forces they have to work with, it's almost crazy how much pressure they have not to pass out, that's why pilots go through strenuous medicals before they can fly these crazy machines
So...80km is roughly 43 nautical miles. If you are at 300m (1,000ft) altitude, the MPQ-53 radar horizon on you should be around 14nm.
What is interesting is that someone with ESM (Il-22 or A-50U, possibly a Krahsuka) is 'hearing' the secondary guidance channel (X-Band) come up, separate from the C-Band Patriot engagement radar. That indicates a PAC-2 GEM-T or GEM-C missile running TVM-SARH.
Yet, if the Fullback's pilot has the jet at 25,000ft (UMPK typical release altitude for a 15-18nm gliding flyout) and immediately jettisons his ordnance, the Su-34 should be able, with a 20,000fpm descent rate, to get below the Patriot RS engagement cone before the Mach 4 = .73nm/min PAC-2 can complete its ~59 second time of flight to get to him. With little effort.
i.e. The Hell Duck should be able to get to low level, breaking radar track, long before the Patriot can complete its intercept. And certainly before the second salvo of missiles can complete the same or longer distance.
Given how much G-strain we hear, as late in the recording, something is being edited or wrongly interpreted here. Were part of the missile launches in fact PAC-3?
Was the LS seriously displaced, forward from the RS?
@@xyz-hj6ul the video is not accurate, take it more as a cinematic from the recording
Su-34 might not want to go below angels 20 because then it comes under fire from other shorter range defense systems including Manpads.
There might be other tracking stations further out that relays information to the patriot missile. But I have no idea if Ukraine this networking technology.
Also at what range does the missile start to guide itself?
@@WinchesterDelta1
What you say makes sense, but my understanding, limited as it is, was that the Su-34 were being restricted to frontal use as BAI platforms and not going deep because the UMPK is not the 60-70km capable system (from 45,000ft) that they wanted it to be and without an added propulsor, the VKS were not interested in risking their equivalent to our F-15E, crossing the FLOC.
There should not be any MPAD on the Russian side of the line.
We know that the Ukrainians use the MPQ-64 Sentinel radar which is a small, X-Band, FAAD system, designed to gapfill at low level, for NASAM and Stinger. But does it have integration with the Patriot site? I dunno. It's only got about 15-20nm of range on a good day and IBCS was only approved for full rate production last year.
Poland has this capability, with the British CAMM missile. But not Ukraine.
As for lockon range...Only PAC-3 has the active seeker and it's Ka band which is not as longranging as X-Band. But it must be pretty good as it's designed to engage ballistic targets closing at up to 2 miles per second. That would actually suggest better than the AMRAAM seeker which is ~12nm. PAC-3 is a lot bigger missile, so it likely has the volume, antenna area and electrical power to push a powerful beam.
What seems strange is that the Ukrainians would risk the Patriot batteries so close to the front but not the NASAMS. NASAMS, with the AMRAAM-ER, will reach 20,000ft and is also a pretty zippy missile, albeit over shorter ranges. It is also substantively cheap. Being little more than a universal box launcher on a truck (far more suitable for use than a trailer mounted TEL, if you are that close to Iskander and Smerch...)
So if you fly right up to FLOC or FSCL and release the UMPK from there... You could get bit.
MPQ-53 is a very powerful radar. MPQ-65 is almost 50% more so than the 53. It would be very hard to mistake one for the other or for the MPQ-64. And the AMRAAM seeker is unique again (very high power X-Band set-on), so you're left wondering, is this a close-in missile being given guidance from a very far away engagement radar?
If so, where is the SAP-14 carrying escort jammer Su-34? Where are the Su-35 Weasels with Kh-31? It's even been stated that the Buk-M3 is being used against Patriots themselves.
There are solutions to this problem but, 'as described' the narrative doesn't make sense for the depth of penetration or nature of the PAC-2/Fullback intercept geometry at the opening of the engagement.
Yeah! Hell Duck sounds great!
My understanding is that the SU-34 was jumped by the oldest trick in the IADS book - Patriot was holding off emissions, until the aircraft was declared in the kill zone by the EWR command center. That would be the best explanation for the complex evasions, instead of just hitting the throttles and gently turning away. And if you closely inspect this channel - the recreation, is cinematic at best. Dodging 6 SAMs in a Viper still sounds more impressive :D
Great recreation. From pilot audio, seems like lot of G forces has been exerted on pilot(s). Is SU34 capable of high G pulls, like 9G?
It is a fighter bomber, so it would be able to pull a decent amount of G-force.
my phone can do 5G
7-8 max
Su-34 IS Really an agile Aircraft for its "gabarit" , I has seen it in solo fight display at Moscow Russian century air show in 2012 !#!
Did you try to copy the range of the launches? I believe they first called out 80km on the first missile. Also, doesn't make sense for the Su-34 to be in afterburner on the way to combat, additionally, according to the controller it wasn't in max rpm until he instructed the pilot to do so.
@@Lukyan no, it's meant to be a cinematic more than 1:1
@@TOx1CC your cinematic 144p is worth a shit
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Range was 60km
Would've been even better with just the cockpit view
Why?
@@Overneed-Belkan-Witch more immersive
@@wdaswwqads no
Cockpit view is not closer to realism as the Su-34 cockpit has pilots sitting side by side.
Nice! Just stumble onto this.
Commenting for the algorithm.
Thanks!!
Nos muestran lo capasitados que estan tanto los pilostos como demas personal, para estas situaciones, wow.
I was about to ask about the cockpit, gold thing you pinned an explanation
Не думал что буду смотреть третью мировую войну в прямом эфире каждый день
that was interesting... I wonder how things play out in real life. I also a 3D map of the path of the missile and the jet would be cool. A recreation of F-4 Wild Weasels and Vietcong would be cool.
@@amirsadeghi9888 I got an F4 video I didn't release, if you'd like I'll drop i
@@TOx1CC yeah sure. I want a recreation video of F4 phantoms Wild Weasel squadron vs Vietcong SAM missiles from the Vietnam War. That's a cool story. This video reminded me of that.
@@amirsadeghi9888 its not really SAM focused but ill release it!
Or a thud. Damn cowboys both sides of that war lol. The Vietnamese loved to play with those radars
amazing aircraft!!!
Beautiful, well done!
@@lazaarclubb6981 thank you!
awesome!
I wouldn't stress myself. Just eject from the jet lol.
great recreation! wanted to do this by myself but i gave up,i really was waiting for someone to make this
Dang !!! SU 34 Duckling evaded two Patriot missile?
three or more irl
The Ghost of Kiev must have been on siesta in St Tropez.
Me encantó este video, muchas gracias..
👍
Woooo brave pilots
Awesome recording.
Thanks!
wasn't he supposedly flying very low? why is this high?
Such a beautiful bird!
the ''Duck'' made it ... dont even need the video to be honest just the heavy breathing is enough
I hope after that Russian Air Force will begin working on upgrading the Su-34s engines and EW systems. They are working on installing AL-41F1S into Su-30SM and so this upgrade isn't impossible for SU-34.
Me gustaría saber la identidad de éstos grandiosos pilotos del SU 34, para felicitarlos por su gran trabajo, solo en la Madre Rusia se producen estos grandiosos peleadores.
Are lame questions allowed?:D Is this the same toxic as is sometimes appearing and helping GS ( Growling Sidewinder ) in his videos?
Bravo băieți!
I think he had more speed than you see on this simulation and did even more aggressive maneuvers. The higher the speed of the aircraft the higher the G's.
Why the pilot maneuvers so early left and right loosing energy with the missile so far? shouldn't it be safer to go away straight down as fast as possible to make missile loose energy in denser atmosphere? and get defensive only if missile gets near him?
for cinematic purposes, its not meant to be 1:1
@@TOx1CC but in the audio looks like he's pulling all the G's you showed in the video.
@@ThePretender1 That's why I edited it that way, but irl I don't know if he was just catching his breath or actually manoeuvering, we'll never know for sure until video recording
Because it can regain it's speed and the missile can't. You want to defend as early as possible. How earlier you defend how more the incoming missile has to correct.
Not at these distance you only need descend to unlock the Patriot station, the misile seeker only IS acurate in short range, IS the station at first Who guided the missile.
I also felt the adrenaline, perhaps one percent of that experienced by those..
The sitting duck(as per western lobbies) against the best in the galaxy (according to the very same western lobbies)! Guess who won(actually)?
Absolutely the plane we see is a su34 but the cockpit we are seeing is su27 cockpit but it is ok.🇷🇺
Afterwards, the pilots took turns to visit the galley and swig a tot of count Pushkin Voda, know how close they had come to meeting St. Peter.
wow that goes into hollywood story
Can someone explain how the ground crew knew that Patriot was tracking that plane?
Not ground crew, but an AWACS AN-50. They know the general location of the patriots missile launcher, hence easier to lock at specific area for any missile launch signal.
Some say it was pair of su 34 with su 35 as cover .su 35 the one giving all this numbers
Спасибо!
SU34 should bea twin seater side by side right ?
correct! read description
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Suka means b i t ch at the end
The decal is sick
Isn't that a Russian Navy color scheme on the Su-34?
Cool, shame about the 27 cockpit tho
@@iota515 yeah can't do much with that mod, it's just external visual
take my left at 1800 km/h
Man that was something! Skilled pilot. The su34 is a bit of a bargain when you think about it, it's used mainly as a bomber, can escort itself and dodge missiles all for about 30 million bucks
I'm not expert but droping to 500 meter would have confused the missile guidance system
They dropped to 300 meters I think irl if im not mistaken
Bro is pulling Gs for real 🥸