Amazing coaching job done by Erik Spoelstra. I’m glad to see him finally being recognized as one of the all time greatest coaches. Only the best coaches can lead a team that only has 1 star and a collection of role players to multiple finals.
i love spoelstra too, but he aint out there making shots. let us give vincent, martin, love, and robinson their due credit too for stepping up and hitting their shots
@@Nequetrefi11 100%, but what other coach could possibly pull this off? No one else could. It’s a combination of a great coach and the grittiest misfits in the league
@@CyaSpaceCowboyCarlisle, Larry Brown, Pop, and Nurse are the coaches that come to mind. I don't know if they could have done what Spo is doing now though It's unprecedented. There are very few coaches that add "star" value at their position. Spo is very high on that list.
Where was all this energy when the Miami Heat was struggling throughout the regular season you guys are just president of the moment. No bandwagon heat fans.😂😂
Last year, the Heat beat the Hawks and Sixers rather easily. They took the Celtics to a game 7, which was still a very close game. The Heat's role players have come back better and more confident this time. They've beaten the Bucks (championship favorites), Knicks, and now the Celtics. They could have beaten any team in the east. I was skeptical about them beating them, but by the way the role players have been playing, I'm getting more confident about them matching up with Denver. Denver might have the offense, but Miami plays very solid, disciplined defense.
Yea they tried push the lakers vs celtics but denver vs miami bout to be a good series. It’ll actually go 7 games and to me the way Miami play i wouldnt be surprised if they beat Denver. Miami just got that grit, will, discipline, poise
@@brianthomas8874 we don’t know that tho, I mean every team they’ve played are better than them and they beat them down bad, not one game went 7 games
@@brianthomas8874 as some who rooting for the nuggets in terrified of the heat team. Maybe I'm wrong but this finals will be really be good series really hope the nuggets can win one they look focused
@@ztb19971ify The Knicks don't have a true superstar, Ginnias missed 2 games and Boston are certified chokers with a rookie head coach. The Lakers are a very good defensive team and Denver is cooking them. Miami doesn't have enough firepower to beat Denver.
I’ve never seen a team punked this bad. It’s like the pampered private school team getting ran off the court by the inner city team in high school hoops.
Do people forget that Lowry struss herro and Vincent were also hurt last year and still took Celtics to wire in game 7 and probably should have been in the finals
As a lifelong Bucks fan, i was worried when we were paired with the Heat. We’ve only beaten them in only one series in the 3 times we’ve faced them. Butler is just a whole different beast in the postseason. He doesn’t flash much during the regular season (or at least the media refuses to cover them) but he lights up when playoffs happen.
I love this Heat team so much but on paper, this team is crazy. Vincent, Martin, Struss, Robinson Love, Lowry, Zeller then you got Jimmy & Bam The Heat embody the culture of hard work and never taking a play off which is sorely missed nowadays
@@JayCity10 he doesn’t quite fit in my tiered narrative as well 😂 but seriously, if that’s true, i’d put him on the bench because you’re getting so much production from the undrafteds
@@JayCity10 I remember when herro got hurt and the news said that he could be back by the finals and thinking to myself “well the heat won’t have to worry about that”
Funny how the Celtics are supposed to be so much more superior than this heat team. Same group of guys who took the Celtics to 7 games last year and was a 3pt shot away from a finals
That’s while Jimmy had a bad shoulder, Kyles hips gave out and Bam was struggling for consistency all playoffs nobody likes to mention those things when they talk about the series. Celtics were healthy, had a better coach at the time(compared to now) and it still went to 7 games. Now that Heat are healthy, playing to their abilities it’s not even close.
Both teams are loaded with post season experience and vets, but Coach Spo will get his flowers. I'm glad that he's finally getting the respect he deserves. He has his teams ready for war and makes adjustments on the fly.
Miami has always been a destination, but I can not help to think about what this is going to do for their future. What Spoelstra and their coaching staff have done is beyond incredible and masterful. The Heat will only get better in the next few years. There will be so many veteran players who will want to play for the Heat and Spoelstra. The one requirement will be the willingness to buy into hard work and the culture. The majority of the current and past Heat coaches are former Heat players.
Miami doesn’t attract superstars all the time simply because of the expectations set by the organization. Players would love to come to Miami to set up for retirement no taxes etc. But that’s not what the Heat are about.
yeah miami an destination thats for sure, the climate the clubs but to stay there you'd need an iron will look no further then jimmy yelling at max on the bench, not everyone built for that ultra competitive enviorment with plenty off distractions
Tatum quietly having a horrific series not being talked about. 3 straight turnovers game one late in crunch time. Then 6/18 shooting in a must win game 3? Dude hasn’t made a basket in the 4th q of the series yet.
This series is personal to us. We couldn't get over what happen last year. But now this year we're taking the life out of the Celtics. But jobs not finished still got a lot of work to do
@Slywerk bro I have been telling people that Knicks team has an elite defense. their problem is thibs is not and offensive coach, he's basically going to run brunson into the dirt just like he did rose.
I really can't pick a winner in a Nuggets-Heat matchup. They're both really good, a great offence against a great defence, a great duo in Denver, a great playoff superstar in Miami, both teams with great supporting casts. I really can't wait for these finals.
I actually feel bad for Joe Mazzulla. He's still only 34. He's younger than Steph. He should be coaching a franchise like Orlando. Not Boston or LA. Too inexperienced.
Yep, he is not ready for this and everyone knew it. wether they wanted to admit it or not. He is not ready to be a head coach for an nba team. He still needs to work his way up
David Blatt had what experience? He made a deep playoff run and got fired for Lue who put them over and got them a chip. This guy had a talented team and went deep. Players want to start bricking 3s instead of penetrating, that’s on them not the coaches. He didn’t expect his too guys to combine 1/14 from 3.
@@introvertedextrovertedtraver Nah man. It's one thing to brick all your shots. It's another thing entirely to just quit. No defense whatsoever. Literally nobody running until the bench players came on.
As bad as the Boston Celtics were we have to admit that. That there was a large portion of time between the third and fourth quarter where the heat could not miss. To keep a 30 point lead throughout 2 quarters basically. That's demoralizing.
How can you miss when you are one the teams loaded with most shooters and the céltics decide to go triple team on Butler? They got easy shot every time. Thank god for the Céltics that herro is injured
@@BLACKSTA361 you sound dumb…respectfully lmao. That’s a 20ppg scorer and he was playing well before he got injured. Y’all wanna downplay him because y’all don’t wanna believe this team could be even greater than they’re looking rn 😂😂
Jimmy’s numbers don’t say he had a great game, but the Celtics started to go all in on doubling him, and he showed that he’s a good enough play maker that that won’t work. He led the team in assists and all the role players went off. That’s what happens when a star draws two or three defenders and can pass the ball
Really thought this was gonna be fun playoff with all the stars in it the nuggets and heat have looked like the most talented and well coached team in this playoffs
If you guys don't hold players accountable, especially the "mvp"... things not going to change, with or without Doc. (but yeah I don't want Doc coaching my team.. he is or)
I think it's crazy to consider firing a head coach after having a great 1st season and getting your team to the conference finals. Crazy. Can we put some blame on the PLAYERS?
The coach is suppose to run plays & schemes to get players easy shots! Joey had them playing street ball! 1 on 1 take turns scoring. it was the Celtics natural talent that got them to the conf. Finals. the coach was not ready! He was pushed into a position! Whoever hired him she got fired! No offense plays or schemes when it mattered! The players weren’t prepared! That’s the coach’s fault.
Its actually sad to see Max Kellerman buried on some small scale show like this. ESPN fumbled the bag when they caved to SAS in getting Max off First Take. Aside from Mad Dog Wednesday's, First Take is a total dud. I used to love watching Max and SAS on First Take.
The media has done everything it can to shove Lakers-Celtics down our throats, so I think there's a lot more people who'd prefer a Nuggets-Heat finals than Max thinks. The anti-media finals, and I'm here for it.
I agree. As a Heat fan is so frustrating to see the media talking about others teams all season and underestimate Miami. Idc about the ratings and the storylines in the finals, I just want to see my favorite team win lol
They lost and got their butts whooped, but they also quit. I was telling myself that they need to lose the game by 15 with the starters to get any momentum, but then they just took all the starters out. They already lost by then, but still keep your starters in the playoff scenario and let them try to get some momentum.
Yeah, ya'll crapped the bed in that Series. You weren't supossed to lose the series after being up 3-2 with the closeout game at home...SMH. This is coming from a KNICKS fan.
Did Jay watch the Suns against the Mavs last year?? 😂😂😂😂 He has "never" seen a team fold??? Luka took the soul of the entire Suns organization inside their own arena 😭😭😂😂😂
Imagine a Championship run from the 8th seed... Bucks-Knicks-Celtics-Nuggets. That would be ridiculously great. Beating the top 3 favourites and a young team with a bright future in the League to win it all on the run to a championship. I still think Nuggets in 5 but still a legacy post season for Butler and Bam.
Nugs in 5? The Heat ran through the #1 and #2 seeds like it was practice, and you’re still doubting their ability to hold their own against Denver? Even if they don’t win, it won’t be a breeze for Denver!
NBA doesn't look so rigged with the Nuggets and Heat up 3-0. The league would want Lakers vs Celtics in the finals for the storyline alone viewership alone would likely be double what the Nuggets vs Heat will be.
Jays take on playing through the embarrassment is moronic The 2010’s Chicago bulls championship window exploded because their franchise guy played late in the 4th of game he had no business being in
Apples and oranges. The nuance is: Rose was LITERALLY coming off of injury. Thibs was moronic for having the “we need to get him back in game shape”. You can’t compare a dude coming off a major knee injury, being thrust into a meaningless regular season game to what Jay said lmao.
I think firing Joe would be way out of pocket. Celtics still got the #2 seed and made it to the conf finals despite having to rewire the whole team after a system had already been put in place. Give the guy another year. Give Time Lord the chance to really integrate himself as a consistent starter. All things considered, the future is still bright for this team. And frankly, the Celtics' stars have looked terrible; a lot of, if not most of the blame, should be on them.
They took the soul of both the Bucks and C’s, the 2 consensus favorites to win it all and the 2 elites of the East. Also looking likely that they’ll be partially responsible for 2 head coaches getting the axe in Budz and Mazzulla. This is easily among the best runs in NBA history.
You media people are going to have to wait for another time frame to give Jason Tatum the crown from LeBron. We know all you guys wanted that to happen, but it’s time for real basketball where the best team wins. That’s what this Miami Heat team is about. Trusting in each other because basketball is a team sport and it’s only right that the best TEAM win. Heat will win it all. 🔥🔥🔥🏀🏀🏀
I also thought that was crazy. Almost the entire 4th they sat. In a critical PLAYOFF GAME!!! 😄 That's the plan?? You have no fight. Forfeit, just roll over now and say no more.
If the Celtics had Ime Udoka as the head coach I believe he would have made a great difference, with that being said it still mostly comes down to the players and by the way this is no excuse for sure I'm just saying. Before this series started I was 50/50 thinking this series could go either way but I didn't expext this series to be this one sided. The work ethic of the Heat is overcoming the Celtics for sure so far. And talking about head coaches, Eric Spo has been one of the best coaches in the league for years. The Boston current head coach is a rookie and still has a lot developing to do. Jimmy is a selfless superstar who could take over at times when needed. One thing for sure nobody thought that the Heat would be one game away from making the finals. And for Denver everyone knows Denver is very good but nobody cares about that NBA market outside of that city or that state so because of that some ppl are not excited about Denver making the finals so these fans are casuals. The Nuggets organizations gets the same treatment like that former great team playing organization like the Spurs when they use to have Duncan, Ginobli and Parker.
Lol Miami took it easy on Celtics in the last few minutes. It would've been a 40 plus game if they kept playing hard 😂. They even gave the Celtics free buckets towards the end of the game.
In over 40 years of watching NBA basketball, I've never seen a team have their hearts ripped out like Celtics did in Game 3. The players and the coach looked shell shocked and resigned to their fate. Like a totally deflated balloon. While it was clear that the Heat was the better team in the first two games of this ECF, to see how the Celtics collapsed and how the Heat totally dominated them in the crucial game 3 was still shocking.
Kayshawn doesn't even addreas Max when Max is the one who gives the lead in question🤦🏿♂️ The few times he addresses Max is usually something in opposition to him.
It’s time to admit that the Heat are the more talented team. Boston may have more *potential* but the Miami players are executing and producing under pressure. That’s talent.
Undrafted in the NBA is NOT the same as undrafted in the NFL..there’s only 2 rounds in the draft, it’s hard to get drafted. That’s why NBA is statistically the hardest pro league to make it to. Just cuz you didn’t get drafted don’t mean you’re not good
Keep in Mind that Jimmy Butler and Erik Spoelstra had that on court tiff ... that shows you that the culture runs true when you have a coach willing to go after the best player of the team. Jimmy may be who he is but he also gained much more respect for spo after that and it shows. 30 other teams would have crumbled after that. this team along with the nuggets are built different.
A DEN v MIA Finals will not get the viewership the NBA wants as 'casual fans' won't tune in to watch.. They may just wait for highlights. BUT.. for hoop heads.. This is going to be an EPIC Finals.. Both respective Stars vying for their first Chip.. I'm going to go with DEN in 7 as I see both teams splitting their initial away games (1-1) then holding homecourt for the rest of the series.
lol @ these guys mentioning how its gonna be disappointing that its not gonna be celtics vs lakers for banner 18. Celtics have won 1 chip since the cold war, they're not all that. Heat and Nuggets have been the 2 best teams in these playoffs and if they really love basketball they should be excited about the matchup.
They humiliated Udoke and Nia publicly and never mentioned the other woman’s name once! Again this was a consensual adult relationship 🤷🏽♂️. Should’ve been handled internally
Agreed Tatum and Brown should have played the last quarter. Even if they brought it back within 15, it wouldn't have broken their spirits as much. You need to play through thst pain. JT cannot say he's humbly one of the best players in the league, and then sit during the fourth quarter. You always have to fight. Delighted that Miami won. They deserve to advance. Excited to see Denver vs Miami.
Would be about the same. He hopped back over to cleveland because dwade was getting old and he needed more help lile he always did his whole career. LBJ would be about at the same spot behind Jordan still.
Past is the past, better question would be why wouldn't KD go down to Miami. When everyone around you plays defense, you're free to be the offensive tip of the spear. He coulda had it all, but the LeBron effect, superstars fear the shadow. Not Jimmy tho.
And this is why jay williams isn’t the guy. Benching your starters in the 4th quarter in an eastern conference finals game, is embarrassing. They didn’t deserve to be on the court.
They’re talking all of this malarkey like the Heat didn’t beat the number 1 seed. Also, that group also have a championship. Who are bigger stars, Giannias/Middleton of Tatum/Brown? I don’t know why I listen to these people! 👎🏾
Benching Brown, Tatum and Smart was insane tbh. How are they gonna learn if you bench when they're getting punched? Last year's Finals by Goldenstate wasn't enough. I'm a Heat fan and I was mortified by that bull right there. Leave them IN.
^ Plus there’s been too many times players have suffered injuries playing in garbage time. They were down 30 going into the fourth, let them play for a while then bench them
I've never heard Keyshawn Johnson say anything about sports that the average sports fan couldn't think of. He has the most basic takes of any "analyst" I've ever heard.
The Celtic fans expect extraordinary. They're one of two teams that have won 17 championships each in NBA history. They, like the Lakers, should win titles in bunches. When you don't win a title in either of these organizations, your season is a failure. Period.
When you look at this Celtics team since Tatum & Brown got there, they’ve been consistently good over the years. Their talent combined with a good roster will always make them one of the best regular season teams in the NBA. However after the game last night, Shaq made a comment that they can be a little “too cool” at times. This is why I feel like they’ll always lose to a team with a little bit more grit than them.
the “too cool” thing definitely applies… sometimes it really does look like they’re trying to do a little extra instead of making the proper play for the situation
I think we can all see that Jason Taytum is just Paul George. Hes the second guy you want on your team following the alpha. Dude isn't that alpha right now. The moment he is defended well he just shrinks from the moment. Shoulders always slumped, head down, etc... compare thay to Jimmy on the other side. The Celtics won't win a title if hes their number one guy.
For clarity, I am not saying Jason Taytum isn't a great basketball player. All I am saying is that he doesn't seem to have the personality of an alpha. But to be honest, that probably makes him a much nicer person.
I for once disagree with Key. It’s like the 1980 Miracle on ice USA hockey team-victory is more than just talent. It takes tact, discipline, determination, tenacity and many other attributes that aren’t necessarily correlated with talent
If Miami win the chip then it will be the one of the greatest underdog story yet and my man Jimmy gets his first ring and deservingly so and not to mention all these undrafted homies along side him. But under the underhand if the nuggets win the chip not only will Jokic win his first and also deservingly so. But it also cements the notion that Joel Embid not only didn’t deserve his mvp award but will just be a sorta dark stain on his career
Finally someone in Key questioning wether the Celtics ACTUALLY have the more talented roster. That’s the kind of questions I’d like to see. Just because everyone was wrong about the undrafted players doesn’t make them worse hoopers then the blue chips. Talent has different facets and sometimes the underdogs are proven to be the better players.
Im a celtic fans. Outside of butler/bam and Jt/jb. Heat have a better roster rt now but if we had a better coach that could be half as good as spo it maybe more closer in comparison. JOE wont call timeouts or call plays or play his good bench players. Losing is hard to stomach with an incompetent coach
@@MrShishi I feel that. Coaching matters. But the narrative is blaming the coach. So the Bucs problem was the coach? Then it was Tibs? He was the problem? Now it’s Joe? See the pattern? It’s not recognizing the talent the Heat have because the experts are wrong about the talent so they are searching for answers. My thesis is simple. The Heat players are just better.
Shouldn't the national media be talking about *THEIR* Lakers this morning? Is LeBron the GOAT? Are they getting Kyrie? Blah blah blah.. 😂 Bye, Felicia. LeOver in 4.
Pat4Clippers the flip flopping jinx. FOH. Thought you said the Lakers were winning it all? After you said the Warriors were going to win it all. After you said the Celtics were going to win it all. Lmao 🤣
Joe Mazzula was in an impossible situation. Please win a championship in your first year after getting the job a week before training camp. This core has had the same issues under 3 coaches, I blame the players. His combativeness with the media didn't help but now Brad has justification.
Wild that Vegas had Celtics -6.0 (when i placed my bet), after losing 2 straight at home and coming to Miami. If you didn’t get in on that Miami bet you missed out on free money.😂
The 1st min and a half of the show is all you needed. Leave them on the court and let them be embarrassed, don’t put the guys that haven’t played all season in to bail them off. Fire this coach immediately he’s lost the room. Sincerely a Heat Fan.
Amazing coaching job done by Erik Spoelstra. I’m glad to see him finally being recognized as one of the all time greatest coaches. Only the best coaches can lead a team that only has 1 star and a collection of role players to multiple finals.
i love spoelstra too, but he aint out there making shots. let us give vincent, martin, love, and robinson their due credit too for stepping up and hitting their shots
@@Nequetrefi11 🎉
@@Nequetrefi11 100%, but what other coach could possibly pull this off? No one else could. It’s a combination of a great coach and the grittiest misfits in the league
@@CyaSpaceCowboyCarlisle, Larry Brown, Pop, and Nurse are the coaches that come to mind. I don't know if they could have done what Spo is doing now though It's unprecedented. There are very few coaches that add "star" value at their position. Spo is very high on that list.
Where was all this energy when the Miami Heat was struggling throughout the regular season you guys are just president of the moment. No bandwagon heat fans.😂😂
Last year, the Heat beat the Hawks and Sixers rather easily. They took the Celtics to a game 7, which was still a very close game. The Heat's role players have come back better and more confident this time. They've beaten the Bucks (championship favorites), Knicks, and now the Celtics. They could have beaten any team in the east. I was skeptical about them beating them, but by the way the role players have been playing, I'm getting more confident about them matching up with Denver. Denver might have the offense, but Miami plays very solid, disciplined defense.
Yea they tried push the lakers vs celtics but denver vs miami bout to be a good series. It’ll actually go 7 games and to me the way Miami play i wouldnt be surprised if they beat Denver. Miami just got that grit, will, discipline, poise
They beat the Bucks with Giannis out for 2 3/4 games. The Lakers would destroy them, but now it'll be Nuggets vs. Heat, so about even.
I feel it would be close but no one can stop Jokic so I’m thinking Denver in 6
@@mrtudeethasakhon3136 No one cab stop Jimmy either especially with denvers defense
@@dmitryowens you can delete this message and pick up the dust pan for the sweeping y’all about to experience
Miami is giving 2011 Mavericks vibes. One superstar with a bunch of dawgs & vets + great coaching
Ironically the Mavs have given us a lot of strife over the years, but it's somewhat similar yes.
More like the Miami bubble experience. The result will be the same. They will lose to a better more complete team.
@@brianthomas8874 we don’t know that tho, I mean every team they’ve played are better than them and they beat them down bad, not one game went 7 games
@@brianthomas8874 as some who rooting for the nuggets in terrified of the heat team. Maybe I'm wrong but this finals will be really be good series really hope the nuggets can win one they look focused
@@ztb19971ify The Knicks don't have a true superstar, Ginnias missed 2 games and Boston are certified chokers with a rookie head coach. The Lakers are a very good defensive team and Denver is cooking them. Miami doesn't have enough firepower to beat Denver.
I’ve never seen a team punked this bad. It’s like the pampered private school team getting ran off the court by the inner city team in high school hoops.
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Accurate
Wild lol
That makes sense
Yea Tatum is a prime example of a spoiled Duke Blue Devil.... Frontrunning like a hoe
Glad Jimmy is getting the love that he deserves
Do people forget that Lowry struss herro and Vincent were also hurt last year and still took Celtics to wire in game 7 and probably should have been in the finals
And jimmy and Martin were ailing that series
Good point man. Last year I was shocked Jimmy was doing it again. Guess they were better than too
People don't know bc media doesn't give us that pass like every other team
As a lifelong Bucks fan, i was worried when we were paired with the Heat. We’ve only beaten them in only one series in the 3 times we’ve faced them. Butler is just a whole different beast in the postseason. He doesn’t flash much during the regular season (or at least the media refuses to cover them) but he lights up when playoffs happen.
Respect
He still plays great during the regular season, just not to THIS insane standard. He made All NBA 2nd Team for a reason. 🤷
Yep Coach Bud n Greek Freak 1-3 v Heat since 2015
I love this Heat team so much but on paper, this team is crazy.
Vincent, Martin, Struss, Robinson
Love, Lowry, Zeller
then you got Jimmy & Bam
The Heat embody the culture of hard work and never taking a play off which is sorely missed nowadays
And it’s paying off, hard work pays off.
Not to mention that Tyler Herro may return aswell.
@@JayCity10 he doesn’t quite fit in my tiered narrative as well 😂 but seriously, if that’s true, i’d put him on the bench because you’re getting so much production from the undrafteds
@MrHugePlaya they ugly bc the undrafted players are producing hold this 🧂
@@JayCity10 I remember when herro got hurt and the news said that he could be back by the finals and thinking to myself “well the heat won’t have to worry about that”
Funny how the Celtics are supposed to be so much more superior than this heat team. Same group of guys who took the Celtics to 7 games last year and was a 3pt shot away from a finals
That’s while Jimmy had a bad shoulder, Kyles hips gave out and Bam was struggling for consistency all playoffs nobody likes to mention those things when they talk about the series. Celtics were healthy, had a better coach at the time(compared to now) and it still went to 7 games. Now that Heat are healthy, playing to their abilities it’s not even close.
@@tjayk9127 celtics didn’t have a better coach, Spo is THE best in the Nba
@@tjayk9127 and having dedmon and pj tucker we’re a disability offensively if they weren’t scoring or rebounding
@@aseesahsan9395 better coach read
Miami did fall off record wise though. From 1st to 8th after losing their play in game at home against Atlanta. Expectations weren’t high
Both teams are loaded with post season experience and vets, but Coach Spo will get his flowers. I'm glad that he's finally getting the respect he deserves. He has his teams ready for war and makes adjustments on the fly.
yeah definitely a coaching mismatch. ime udoka would've done better.
Literally a savant.
Miami has always been a destination, but I can not help to think about what this is going to do for their future. What Spoelstra and their coaching staff have done is beyond incredible and masterful. The Heat will only get better in the next few years. There will be so many veteran players who will want to play for the Heat and Spoelstra. The one requirement will be the willingness to buy into hard work and the culture. The majority of the current and past Heat coaches are former Heat players.
Miami doesn’t attract superstars all the time simply because of the expectations set by the organization. Players would love to come to Miami to set up for retirement no taxes etc. But that’s not what the Heat are about.
If Luka goes there he will become skinny for real. :)
yeah miami an destination thats for sure, the climate the clubs but to stay there you'd need an iron will look no further then jimmy yelling at max on the bench, not everyone built for that ultra competitive enviorment with plenty off distractions
@@kowaikokoroTrue, but the psychopaths that are built for it, are more than welcomed here.
Plus the rewards here are totally worth it.
Can you describe the culture?
Tatum quietly having a horrific series not being talked about. 3 straight turnovers game one late in crunch time. Then 6/18 shooting in a must win game 3? Dude hasn’t made a basket in the 4th q of the series yet.
Nah everyone crapped on Tatum for Gm 1 and 2, this Gm was just so embarrassing that we have to talk about EVERYBODY now
@@reaper_is_unavailable I mean he's supposed to be a first team all nba guy and he's been terrible this series
This series is personal to us. We couldn't get over what happen last year. But now this year we're taking the life out of the Celtics. But jobs not finished still got a lot of work to do
Facts butler out for blood
5 games left
Who is "us"? You ain't on the team.
You locked in😂😂😂. Why you sound like u at a press conference 🤣🤣. Good luck to y'all
Bro said “we”
Barring a miracle we're going to have an awesome NBA finals and idc who wins it. Butler or Jokic will add to their legacies.
@Slywerk bro I have been telling people that Knicks team has an elite defense. their problem is thibs is not and offensive coach, he's basically going to run brunson into the dirt just like he did rose.
Yes. A "no narrative" finals!🙌🏾. Just good clean basketball with players that really wanna win! (Im not being sarcastic fyi)
FACTS
@MrHugePlaya Jimmy and the heat took out the best in the West what you talking about they had the hardest path as the 8th seed
I really can't pick a winner in a Nuggets-Heat matchup. They're both really good, a great offence against a great defence, a great duo in Denver, a great playoff superstar in Miami, both teams with great supporting casts. I really can't wait for these finals.
Thank you for not saying nuggets or Heat in whatever amount of games. Let’s just enjoy the finals
We Heat fans know is going to be very hard, we don't disrespect any team, but we belive in Jimmy.
Denver is going to beat them easily
@@caro198426 in Jimmy we trust
@@princedejour2686 whatever ya say
I actually feel bad for Joe Mazzulla. He's still only 34. He's younger than Steph. He should be coaching a franchise like Orlando. Not Boston or LA. Too inexperienced.
Yep, he is not ready for this and everyone knew it. wether they wanted to admit it or not. He is not ready to be a head coach for an nba team. He still needs to work his way up
I don't - he's a cocky douche who needs to be humbled.
David Blatt had what experience? He made a deep playoff run and got fired for Lue who put them over and got them a chip. This guy had a talented team and went deep. Players want to start bricking 3s instead of penetrating, that’s on them not the coaches. He didn’t expect his too guys to combine 1/14 from 3.
@@introvertedextrovertedtraver Nah man. It's one thing to brick all your shots. It's another thing entirely to just quit. No defense whatsoever. Literally nobody running until the bench players came on.
They can always bring back Doc Rivers to coach them lol
As bad as the Boston Celtics were we have to admit that. That there was a large portion of time between the third and fourth quarter where the heat could not miss. To keep a 30 point lead throughout 2 quarters basically. That's demoralizing.
How can you miss when you are one the teams loaded with most shooters and the céltics decide to go triple team on Butler? They got easy shot every time. Thank god for the Céltics that herro is injured
That what I’m saying it’s not like Miami wasn’t lights out
@@davidaznarrozas2127 herro is extremely overrated. Heat not getting past celtics or bucks with herro. Clearly not as talented. Should be trafed
@@BLACKSTA361 you sound dumb…respectfully lmao. That’s a 20ppg scorer and he was playing well before he got injured. Y’all wanna downplay him because y’all don’t wanna believe this team could be even greater than they’re looking rn 😂😂
The fact that the heat were "UNDERDOGS" AT HOME AFTER 2 (NOT TOO CLOSE) WINS!?!?.
KEEP SLEEPING ON THESE FLORIDA BOYS. CATCH A HEAT STROKE. 🔥
You can be the better team and not be the most talented team. If the team does not have the right chemistry, talent means absolutely nothing.
Jimmy’s numbers don’t say he had a great game, but the Celtics started to go all in on doubling him, and he showed that he’s a good enough play maker that that won’t work. He led the team in assists and all the role players went off. That’s what happens when a star draws two or three defenders and can pass the ball
They doubled him 3 plays all game😂
He is not qualified to be a head coach. He beat Doc River and took them to the eastern final. He is qualified than Doc river you dumb
@Slywerk yet jimmy is still up 3-0 😅
Crazy how round 1 Kings vs Warriors has been the best series in these playoffs.
Really thought this was gonna be fun playoff with all the stars in it the nuggets and heat have looked like the most talented and well coached team in this playoffs
Indeed
Dudes thinking they're steph hurt the playoffs this year.
Agreed
@@chrismiller755 😂😂😂 The LeFuckU3 is double edged sword
The al horford and Jimmy side by side timeout funny asf 😅
As a Sixers fan, Watching the Heat put Boston down 3-0 , the same Boston team that beat us , justifies the firing of Doc Rivers honestly.
No fraud mvp and stripper guy Harden gave up on doc and let my guy Tatum go off for 51 😂 he’s not even that good
no you can’t blame doc for that. you forget? james harden is on your team😂😂😂😂
The players were also to blame in your case. I hate seeing your MVP walking back on defense and being soft on offense
If you guys don't hold players accountable, especially the "mvp"... things not going to change, with or without Doc. (but yeah I don't want Doc coaching my team.. he is or)
Definitely the players and not the coach. They quit.
That Pat Riley stat was mindblowing!
I think it's crazy to consider firing a head coach after having a great 1st season and getting your team to the conference finals. Crazy. Can we put some blame on the PLAYERS?
Tatum went 6/18 in a must win last night and it was hardly mentioned once in this 20 minute conversation.
The coach is suppose to run plays & schemes to get players easy shots! Joey had them playing street ball! 1 on 1 take turns scoring. it was the Celtics natural talent that got them to the conf. Finals. the coach was not ready! He was pushed into a position! Whoever hired him she got fired! No offense plays or schemes when it mattered! The players weren’t prepared! That’s the coach’s fault.
I'm excited for the finals. A #1 Seed vs a play-in team? Now that's a storyline.
David vs Goliath
The celtics bench had more heart and confidence than they starters lol
Its actually sad to see Max Kellerman buried on some small scale show like this. ESPN fumbled the bag when they caved to SAS in getting Max off First Take. Aside from Mad Dog Wednesday's, First Take is a total dud. I used to love watching Max and SAS on First Take.
I like this show. Actual basketball commentary. Not those crazy yelling debates.
i think max prefers it ngl
The media has done everything it can to shove Lakers-Celtics down our throats, so I think there's a lot more people who'd prefer a Nuggets-Heat finals than Max thinks. The anti-media finals, and I'm here for it.
I agree. As a Heat fan is so frustrating to see the media talking about others teams all season and underestimate Miami. Idc about the ratings and the storylines in the finals, I just want to see my favorite team win lol
Lakers Celtics doesn't even hold any weight anymore. They just want big cities and storylines.
Being in 1/4 of every NBA finals is an insane stat my god…
They didn’t quit.. they just got out played and got there azz whoop 😂😂😂
And then as soon as they realized they were getting out played .....they quit 😅
They lost and got their butts whooped, but they also quit. I was telling myself that they need to lose the game by 15 with the starters to get any momentum, but then they just took all the starters out. They already lost by then, but still keep your starters in the playoff scenario and let them try to get some momentum.
As a Celtics fan congrats to the heat, Celtics played with zero heart and absolutely quit, BIG changes better be coming next year ( Joe mazzula)
Bro they quit by the 3rd quarter lol
1/14 from three between brown and Tatum? They checked out
As a Sixers fan I’m both horrified we lost to these dudes and elated that Celtics fans get to feel what we felt after game 6-7
becuz your team is full of punks
Yeah, ya'll crapped the bed in that Series. You weren't supossed to lose the series after being up 3-2 with the closeout game at home...SMH. This is coming from a KNICKS fan.
@@michaelsherron5750 I felt disrespected by that game 7. God, is there any fanbase worse than Boston?
Honestly i would be more horrified if i was a celtics fan. Last night’s was one of the most pitiful playoff games ive ever seen in my life.
Did Jay watch the Suns against the Mavs last year?? 😂😂😂😂 He has "never" seen a team fold??? Luka took the soul of the entire Suns organization inside their own arena 😭😭😂😂😂
Imagine a Championship run from the 8th seed... Bucks-Knicks-Celtics-Nuggets. That would be ridiculously great. Beating the top 3 favourites and a young team with a bright future in the League to win it all on the run to a championship. I still think Nuggets in 5 but still a legacy post season for Butler and Bam.
Nugs in 5? The Heat ran through the #1 and #2 seeds like it was practice, and you’re still doubting their ability to hold their own against Denver? Even if they don’t win, it won’t be a breeze for Denver!
@@jccanteen Gonna be interesting. Something spiritual may happen again...
NBA doesn't look so rigged with the Nuggets and Heat up 3-0. The league would want Lakers vs Celtics in the finals for the storyline alone viewership alone would likely be double what the Nuggets vs Heat will be.
Jays take on playing through the embarrassment is moronic
The 2010’s Chicago bulls championship window exploded because their franchise guy played late in the 4th of game he had no business being in
I'm a heat fan and you're correct. It's a good call from mozzarella no point playing the starter 4th quarter down 30.
Apples and oranges. The nuance is: Rose was LITERALLY coming off of injury. Thibs was moronic for having the “we need to get him back in game shape”. You can’t compare a dude coming off a major knee injury, being thrust into a meaningless regular season game to what Jay said lmao.
Nuggets v Heat might one of the most competitive finals in the last 10 years based on the play styles, and narratives/storyline
I think firing Joe would be way out of pocket. Celtics still got the #2 seed and made it to the conf finals despite having to rewire the whole team after a system had already been put in place. Give the guy another year. Give Time Lord the chance to really integrate himself as a consistent starter. All things considered, the future is still bright for this team. And frankly, the Celtics' stars have looked terrible; a lot of, if not most of the blame, should be on them.
They took the soul of both the Bucks and C’s, the 2 consensus favorites to win it all and the 2 elites of the East. Also looking likely that they’ll be partially responsible for 2 head coaches getting the axe in Budz and Mazzulla.
This is easily among the best runs in NBA history.
At least Bucks can say that Giannis was injured. Celtics don't even have no excuses, in fact Heat is missing 2 players.
Heat couldn't miss last night. They were like Omar Little from The wire, *"Even if I miss, I can't miss".*
They hitting everything with that shotgun while whistling
@@nicholsdeshan *The Cheese Stands Alone*
Miami been shutting down the mouths of the doubters. Mad respect for my fav Coach Spo, and MJ's long lost son, Jimmy ❤🔥
People like Max are one of the problems with sports media
Ime Udoka is surely missed I’ll tell you that
Well we’re happy to have him in Houston. We need him more than y’all
@@cowboyschad5x778 yeah we need structure
You media people are going to have to wait for another time frame to give Jason Tatum the crown from LeBron. We know all you guys wanted that to happen, but it’s time for real basketball where the best team wins. That’s what this Miami Heat team is about. Trusting in each other because basketball is a team sport and it’s only right that the best TEAM win.
Heat will win it all. 🔥🔥🔥🏀🏀🏀
J Will needs to brush up on his Mortal Kombat characters.
LOL
I also thought that was crazy. Almost the entire 4th they sat. In a critical PLAYOFF GAME!!! 😄 That's the plan?? You have no fight. Forfeit, just roll over now and say no more.
If the Celtics had Ime Udoka as the head coach I believe he would have made a great difference, with that being said it still mostly comes down to the players and by the way this is no excuse for sure I'm just saying.
Before this series started I was 50/50 thinking this series could go either way but I didn't expext this series to be this one sided. The work ethic of the Heat is overcoming the Celtics for sure so far.
And talking about head coaches, Eric Spo has been one of the best coaches in the league for years. The Boston current head coach is a rookie and still has a lot developing to do.
Jimmy is a selfless superstar who could take over at times when needed.
One thing for sure nobody thought that the Heat would be one game away from making the finals.
And for Denver everyone knows Denver is very good but nobody cares about that NBA market outside of that city or that state so because of that some ppl are not excited about Denver making the finals so these fans are casuals. The Nuggets organizations gets the same treatment like that former great team playing organization like the Spurs when they use to have Duncan, Ginobli and Parker.
Analytics don't tell the whole story. There is no column for hunger, for will to win, for killer instinct on that paper.
Lol Miami took it easy on Celtics in the last few minutes. It would've been a 40 plus game if they kept playing hard 😂. They even gave the Celtics free buckets towards the end of the game.
people keep saying undrafted but the ball don't lie. Those cats can ball.
In over 40 years of watching NBA basketball, I've never seen a team have their hearts ripped out like Celtics did in Game 3. The players and the coach looked shell shocked and resigned to their fate. Like a totally deflated balloon. While it was clear that the Heat was the better team in the first two games of this ECF, to see how the Celtics collapsed and how the Heat totally dominated them in the crucial game 3 was still shocking.
Kayshawn doesn't even addreas Max when Max is the one who gives the lead in question🤦🏿♂️ The few times he addresses Max is usually something in opposition to him.
It’s time to admit that the Heat are the more talented team. Boston may have more *potential* but the Miami players are executing and producing under pressure. That’s talent.
Undrafted in the NBA is NOT the same as undrafted in the NFL..there’s only 2 rounds in the draft, it’s hard to get drafted. That’s why NBA is statistically the hardest pro league to make it to. Just cuz you didn’t get drafted don’t mean you’re not good
Tatum only got 51 because 76ers didnt give an effort, just like the Celtics last night, souls were taken last game 6. Embiid was nowhere to be found!
Keep in Mind that Jimmy Butler and Erik Spoelstra had that on court tiff ... that shows you that the culture runs true when you have a coach willing to go after the best player of the team. Jimmy may be who he is but he also gained much more respect for spo after that and it shows. 30 other teams would have crumbled after that. this team along with the nuggets are built different.
Jimmy is a 3rd option masquerading as a star player,nobody wants to see these nobodies in the finals
A DEN v MIA Finals will not get the viewership the NBA wants as 'casual fans' won't tune in to watch.. They may just wait for highlights.
BUT.. for hoop heads.. This is going to be an EPIC Finals.. Both respective Stars vying for their first Chip.. I'm going to go with DEN in 7 as I see both teams splitting their initial away games (1-1) then holding homecourt for the rest of the series.
True no body cares about nugs or heat,every player is boring and jimmy is a 3rd option masquerading as a 1st option
@@718Fresh2Death Is that how you feel or how you think the casuals feel?
lol @ these guys mentioning how its gonna be disappointing that its not gonna be celtics vs lakers for banner 18. Celtics have won 1 chip since the cold war, they're not all that. Heat and Nuggets have been the 2 best teams in these playoffs and if they really love basketball they should be excited about the matchup.
"Get Over Here!" 😂😂😂
They humiliated Udoke and Nia publicly and never mentioned the other woman’s name once! Again this was a consensual adult relationship 🤷🏽♂️. Should’ve been handled internally
Agreed Tatum and Brown should have played the last quarter. Even if they brought it back within 15, it wouldn't have broken their spirits as much. You need to play through thst pain. JT cannot say he's humbly one of the best players in the league, and then sit during the fourth quarter. You always have to fight.
Delighted that Miami won. They deserve to advance. Excited to see Denver vs Miami.
Tatum isn't even the best player on his own team - Jaylen Brown is.
@@dmitryowens after last night's game, I can't tell who is better or worse. Brown is underrated though.
shiiiii thank you so much espn for this long ahh videos man kjm is da best
Jimmy Butler is taking revenge on the Celtics for not allowing him to dish-out even a harder beatdown of the Philadelphia 76ers 😊
English please
@@MentLeee right, comment don’t even make sense
@@MentLeee How’s the update? 😬
@@robdoms45123 I get it now thanks lol
Best story about Jimmy beautiful story tell 🔥 🔥 🔥
Imagine what LBJ’s career could have been if he had stuck with franchise like Miami.
Would be about the same. He hopped back over to cleveland because dwade was getting old and he needed more help lile he always did his whole career. LBJ would be about at the same spot behind Jordan still.
@@Maddenlegend4ever generational hater
Past is the past, better question would be why wouldn't KD go down to Miami. When everyone around you plays defense, you're free to be the offensive tip of the spear. He coulda had it all, but the LeBron effect, superstars fear the shadow. Not Jimmy tho.
He ran away, like always😆
@@accacc841 and thank god he did that 2014 heat team was GARBAGE
And this is why jay williams isn’t the guy. Benching your starters in the 4th quarter in an eastern conference finals game, is embarrassing. They didn’t deserve to be on the court.
I said it once that I thought that clipboard incident was a bigger deal than we realize.
They’re talking all of this malarkey like the Heat didn’t beat the number 1 seed. Also, that group also have a championship. Who are bigger stars, Giannias/Middleton of Tatum/Brown? I don’t know why I listen to these people! 👎🏾
Benching Brown, Tatum and Smart was insane tbh. How are they gonna learn if you bench when they're getting punched? Last year's Finals by Goldenstate wasn't enough. I'm a Heat fan and I was mortified by that bull right there. Leave them IN.
^ Plus there’s been too many times players have suffered injuries playing in garbage time. They were down 30 going into the fourth, let them play for a while then bench them
whats a crazy stat is miami heat havent won a game against Denver since 2020 lol
Why would anyone younger than 50 give two shits about Lakers Vs Celtics? Seriously.
LeBron. That's about it lol. I wanted Heat to win and the west I didnt care but I thought the lakers would be a bit better than this
The Scorpion "Come Over Here " Reference 😂👏👏👏👏
I've never heard Keyshawn Johnson say anything about sports that the average sports fan couldn't think of. He has the most basic takes of any "analyst" I've ever heard.
Jay Will with that Mortal Kombat reference, even tho that was Scorpion (“get over here”)
Joe Schmo, Joe Blow, and Joe Mazzulla are synonyms to each other. They all describe ordinary or average. Boston needs extraordinary.
The Celtic fans expect extraordinary. They're one of two teams that have won 17 championships each in NBA history. They, like the Lakers, should win titles in bunches. When you don't win a title in either of these organizations, your season is a failure. Period.
That one play when brown slips and wants the foul call sums up this series so far
When you look at this Celtics team since Tatum & Brown got there, they’ve been consistently good over the years. Their talent combined with a good roster will always make them one of the best regular season teams in the NBA. However after the game last night, Shaq made a comment that they can be a little “too cool” at times. This is why I feel like they’ll always lose to a team with a little bit more grit than them.
the “too cool” thing definitely applies… sometimes it really does look like they’re trying to do a little extra instead of making the proper play for the situation
Tatum is another Paul George
@@StayTru101 Perfect comparison. Both have the “too cool” mentality.
They shouldn't have poked the bear
I bet Boston execs. must be saying "Man whoever higher up wanna do dirty to Ime Udoka is to blame for this"
Jwill they didn’t want to play fam. Stop it
I feel like the return of Doc Rivers in Celtic green is on the horizon.
I’m good gimme nick nurse
The only scenario Miami would loose a 3-0 lead is if Doc Rivers would coach the Heat.
@@Ryandupont0896 Lmao
i don't think the celtics need a doctor or a nurse. they will need a therapist after this heat series.
I disagree with Max wholeheartedly, I think most people would rather see Heat vs Denver 🤷
I think we can all see that Jason Taytum is just Paul George. Hes the second guy you want on your team following the alpha. Dude isn't that alpha right now. The moment he is defended well he just shrinks from the moment. Shoulders always slumped, head down, etc... compare thay to Jimmy on the other side. The Celtics won't win a title if hes their number one guy.
Don’t compare pg to Tatum, pg plays through injuries, Tatum just shrinks
Tatum = overrated. Same with Embiid. They don't have Jordan, Bird or Mamba mentality.
For clarity, I am not saying Jason Taytum isn't a great basketball player. All I am saying is that he doesn't seem to have the personality of an alpha. But to be honest, that probably makes him a much nicer person.
I for once disagree with Key. It’s like the 1980 Miracle on ice USA hockey team-victory is more than just talent. It takes tact, discipline, determination, tenacity and many other attributes that aren’t necessarily correlated with talent
When I see “took their souls” I think of something else 😅😂
How jay gon say he never seen a team quit when suns did twice in 2 years😂😂
This series is over
Still no credit to Miami Heat, all the talk is about Celtics quitting as if the Heat had nothing to do with it. LOL!!
Heat fans. This is a GREAT spot to be in, but let’s not for a second forget that JOBS NOT DONE. Heatnation stand TF UP. 🏀🔥🫡
Jimmy treated Celtics like he did Rachel Nichols in the Bubble Hotel Room 🫣
They getting fucked😭
If Miami win the chip then it will be the one of the greatest underdog story yet and my man Jimmy gets his first ring and deservingly so and not to mention all these undrafted homies along side him. But under the underhand if the nuggets win the chip not only will Jokic win his first and also deservingly so. But it also cements the notion that Joel Embid not only didn’t deserve his mvp award but will just be a sorta dark stain on his career
Finally someone in Key questioning wether the Celtics ACTUALLY have the more talented roster. That’s the kind of questions I’d like to see.
Just because everyone was wrong about the undrafted players doesn’t make them worse hoopers then the blue chips. Talent has different facets and sometimes the underdogs are proven to be the better players.
Im a celtic fans. Outside of butler/bam and Jt/jb. Heat have a better roster rt now but if we had a better coach that could be half as good as spo it maybe more closer in comparison. JOE wont call timeouts or call plays or play his good bench players. Losing is hard to stomach with an incompetent coach
@@MrShishi I feel that. Coaching matters. But the narrative is blaming the coach. So the Bucs problem was the coach? Then it was Tibs? He was the problem? Now it’s Joe? See the pattern? It’s not recognizing the talent the Heat have because the experts are wrong about the talent so they are searching for answers.
My thesis is simple. The Heat players are just better.
What’s crazy about the potential of both the ECF and WCF ending in sweeps is that it’s the Celtics and Lakers!
Shouldn't the national media be talking about *THEIR* Lakers this morning? Is LeBron the GOAT? Are they getting Kyrie? Blah blah blah.. 😂 Bye, Felicia. LeOver in 4.
Pat4Clippers the flip flopping jinx. FOH. Thought you said the Lakers were winning it all? After you said the Warriors were going to win it all. After you said the Celtics were going to win it all. Lmao 🤣
If this was KD or Steph would we be blaming the coach? 🤷🏾♂️
I love Jay's take. Let em play let em be embarassed. So that next year they come in hungry. I dont see ferocity in the celtics
Shoutout to max
Joe Mazzula was in an impossible situation. Please win a championship in your first year after getting the job a week before training camp. This core has had the same issues under 3 coaches, I blame the players. His combativeness with the media didn't help but now Brad has justification.
Wild that Vegas had Celtics -6.0 (when i placed my bet), after losing 2 straight at home and coming to Miami.
If you didn’t get in on that Miami bet you missed out on free money.😂
I would not prefer to see the lakers, celtics. At all. That is not fair to say at all.
The 1st min and a half of the show is all you needed. Leave them on the court and let them be embarrassed, don’t put the guys that haven’t played all season in to bail them off. Fire this coach immediately he’s lost the room. Sincerely a Heat Fan.