Being caribbean in Black America Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Tonight's episode will discuss the 80s and 90s and how difficult it was being from the Caribbean and not being accepted by Black America.. We will also discuss terms like, "banana boat/African booty scratcher/ they came to steal our jobs" Not to be one sided, an alumni from Tuskegee University will educate us on how Caribbeans made Black Americans feel during the 80s and 90s.
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Next video should be about how Chinese took the Kingston port from Jamaica an how y'all being recolonizing by the Chinese Jamaica is basically DONE!!
Or a video on how Chinese are all in your neighborhoods also, and how all of u are going to spend money in their shops. Hoe about that?
@@africaine4889 Or how you all are so obsessed and envious of FBA/ADOS that you can't concentrate on how raggedy your countries are.
Italy sold they asses back in the days. Marcus died ashame of them
MY beautiful Jamaica will never be done 😔 U BA are so jealous of us; it's pitiful!!!
@@Jamaicangirl21000 My love you trolling. Nobody care about Jamaica
I find it odd that black Americans who had nothing to do with bullying Jamaicans or any caribbean feel the need to apologize to carbibeans and say were jealous but the guy in the video is telling you that he thinks he is better than you. Caribbeans are not viewed the same as black Americans there is different perspective on how they are viewed. Black Americans are given a negative stigma no matter what life you lead. They also need to come to understand us.
, I have heard *some* Black Americans denigrate some other black immigrants, particularly Haitians in the latter days, now that disdain seems to be towards Continental Africans. I'm not sure if BA as a whole realize they do this, but it's real.
@@diouranke Do black immigrants realize they say a lot of condescending, dissmissive stuff about black Americans? Chimamamnda Adichie wrote a whole article on how black immigrants move here already disliking black Americans and how they would sit around and talk about black Americans like whites in the 1950s. I mean a lot of you guys are talking about childhoood teasing from immatrue kids but it appears that caribbean parents and African parents have this constant need to tell their kids to not be like black Americans and not to marry us. Our parents would never act like marrying a carribbean is beneath us the only concern is being used for citizenship which is a real thing. I mean the guy in the video is telling everyone he is arrogant and feels superior to black Americans because they ddin't have to deal with post slavery racism because most caribbean countries are not heavily white populated and are at least 39% black or as much as 80% black. It seems like everyone who is half black American and one caribbean parent always have a story about how their caribbean family moved to the U.S. but talk down on black Americans.
@@diouranke The irony is black Americans have been called lazy since slavery so how exactly is that true? Talib Kweli mom even has a story about how a white nun questiioned if she was caribbean because that was the only way they would let another black person in their Caltholic school and they only allowed 2 black kids a year in the school. A lot of black immigrants have a rose colored view of America and because they didn't have to deal with what our parents went through being called slurs on the way to school and being arrested for walking into a white community (happened to my aunt) and because white people tend to favor black immigrants (moreso those with accents) they go around calling black Americans lazy and making it seem like the U.S. was some utopia that black Americans refused to take advantage of It's incredibly disrespectful to do that. Then saying we don't work like 9 million native black americans could never work and survive on just welfare.
@Haitian Princess No, you don't not in the U.S. mores in the U.K. Being any type of immigrant makes you look better. Malcolm X talked about how he was treated better in Europe cuz he was American and how a black person could simply but on a turban and white Americans would treat them differently and this stuff really happened a biracial partial black American pretended to be Indian so whites gave him a t.v. show Korda Panda. And black jazz musicians used to speak Arabic so whites would let them in their stores and diners. There is even a long history of caribbean and African children of diplomats being allowed into all white schools and univerisities that black Americans could never be allowed in.
@Haitian Princess Even if the black Americans never bullied the kids in New York and Florida many black immigrants already came to the U.S. with this superority complex and felt like they didnt have Jim Crow and some didnt even like being called negro or black. IF you don't know how America operates you can't move and say you simply work harder. I bet a wealthy black American can move to the caribbeans and talk crap about the black population and say if there is no racism here why aren't you guys doing better? Why aren't you guys using your resources? And when caribbeans talk about neocolonialism and crooked politiicans we could just call yall lazy too that's literally what caribbean and African immigrants do. That's how it looks to us like you are not historically or economically aware of how our coutnry functions but seem to judge a people who have a long history of being discriminated and because whites prefer you, many go along with that.
Here is a TRUE history lesson of the origin of hip hop.
"Kool Herc went on Maury Polvich show to take a lie detector test' and the test results came back "YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER"
it is very clear hip hop and rap music is African Americans culture and music created and originated by African Americans not carribeans or kool herc. he moved to america at age 12 in 1967. around the time hip hop was bubbling up. you telling me he brought hip hop culture or music with him. Herc didn't create or originate nothing in hip hop including extending / juggling, looping break beats or the merry go round the made up name he created for it. he leaarned all of that from african american DJ's. he just wants to be in the history books. he used to tell the truth early on. He said he used to attend disco parties and the djs were playing break beats while the people there were breakin and yes that was the term used in 1970 for break dancing. being done before herc. he wasnt the first to do anything in hip hop including his merry go round technique. Disco DJ's at disco clubs and parties would extend the breakdown of records for as long as 20 minutes at times to get the kids to get funky or break dance. That is what break dance means to dance on the breakdowns, DJ's would loop the break from turntable to turntable while the kids got funky on the dance floor break dancing. soul train was started in the late 60s in chicago as traveling record hops by Don Cornelius, where he traveled around to different venues putting on his dance record hops. the show went live on tv in 1970 were young kids dance to the latest funk soul rnb music. the soul train line literally was the DJ playing extended beats of records while the soul train dancers would do the latest dance crazes like poppin pop lockin robot breakin and hundreds more dance crazes. that was watched by millions. this was the early foundation of hip hop which included james brown who used to dance to extended breakdowns of the beat for as long as 30 minutes in his shows. Some may say pigmeat markums here comes the judge, is not a hip hop record but it has every element and the black spades and others around those neighborhoods who are the real founders of pretty much every element of hip hop culture said that is who they were copying when they would battle snap (rap) to music at block parties and just on the street corners in the neighborhood. block parties, toasting, sound systems, rapping, breakin, graffiti, and every other element of hip hop was created and influenced here in America by African American's. Not the Caribbeans. U-roy and other Jamaican Artists and toasters said they got their music culture from our music and DJ's so how could they have originated it. in fact, ska, rocksteady, and reggae music was directly inspired by African American music and culture. Many of the early pioneers of ska and rock steady which became reggae music said they were copying and inspired by African American music, and culture. FBA (Foundational Black Americans) originated and created hip hop period. not kool herc or carribeans. Herc did not create the extended breakbeat. So that is out. he didnt create the merry go round technique, he just put a name to what he was copying. African Americans created most of the worlds most popular music genras and subcultures. that is a fact. so stop with the ambiguity and if you are trying to truly get to the truth, then tell the truth and stop leaving it open for interpretation. African Americans created hip hop and rap period. Rap literally goes all the way back to slavery in the usa. kool herc and other carribeans here contributed and participated like the rest of the early pioneers. but they didnt start nothing accept maybe grandmaster flash with some of his techinlogical inventions and theories around turntabalism, but that is not the creation of turntabalism, deejaying or hip hop, but an elevation. a contribution of one element of the art form.
if Jamaicans were listening to African Americans DJ's (Deejays) and were inspired to copy it, they couldn't have done it first, thus they didn't create it. dancehall which started in the late 70s was a speed up more rhythmic reggae inspired music form which was inspired by ska, which was literally inspired by African American music and DJs. see how the ball goes around. you people at this point ( And I'm talking to some of the people in your comments and just in general about these debates and responding to some of the statements you made in your videos), are down right disrespecting African Americans and their long and arduous creation of the culture. let me again explain it to yah, in my fake Jamaican accent. i love my Jamaica seestas and brudas but this gotta stop.
The rhythmic rhyming of vocals of African American toasting (Jive Talking) influenced the development of toasting in Jamaica and development of the dancehall style
In the late 1950s deejay toasting (In Jamaica) was developed by Count Matchuki. He conceived the idea from listening to disc jockeys on American radio stations. He would do African American jive over the music while selecting and playing R&B music. Deejays like Count Machuki working for producers would play the latest hits on traveling sound systems (African American inspired mobile Dj systems) at parties and add their toasts or vocals to the music. These toasts consisted of comedy, boastful commentaries, half-sung rhymes, rhythmic chants, squeals, screams and rhymed storytelling, which was inspired by African American minstral shows and stage shows (Of course they added their own flare making it their own style) but that's my point. Creativity comes from inspiration. They were inspired by African American Deejaying and Music Culture but they then made it their own. That's like how everything else is created
Later in the 1960s toasting deejays included U-Roy and Dennis Alcapone, the latter known for mixing gangster talk with humor in his toasting. In the early 1970s, toasting deejays included I-Roy (his nickname is in homage to U-Roy) and Dillinger, the latter known for his humorous toasting style. In the early 1970s Big Youth became popular. In the late 1970s, Trinity followed and they all said they were inspired by and emulating African American music and culture with their own flair.
This all comes back around full circle to African American Culture and music. Not saying we created everything but out of shear necessity we created our own cultures and music, as well as many other American traditions. sometimes we get credit for it but in the broader scheme of things it is hidden from American society and thus hidden from the world as a form of deliberate oppression and deliberate cultural appropriation. This goes on a lot. We don't get the credit for a lot of our contributions to the world. and really it's by design. These historians know the truth about it but African Americans are discredited in place of other people.
This has to stop. Go read a book on the inventions and innovations that African Americans have contributed to the world and you will literally be shocked beyond belief.
how can you be the root of hip hop music when hip hop music is literally African American music. disco, r&b ,funk ,jazz, and anything else you wanna mix in there that we created. Herc already said it was alread bubbling up and he was inspired by other DJ's and what he was hearing and seeing. if he wasnt the first to juggle break beats, didnt create or the music that was inspiring it, he wasnt the first throwing parties in the park. wasnt the first throwing house partys, how could he have invented it. This is a stupid argument. he came over here and seen African Americans are lit. and got inspired like everyone else in the world. hes not the creator. one of the early pioneers yes. creator no.
Herc literally does not even know how to dj. Look at what he is doing in his video explaining the merry go round technique which is just beat juggling and looping or extending the beat. It literally does not match up to how cross fading works. He is a huge fraud and liar. That is why you see no video of him dj'ing and your telling me this guy created extended break beat juggling and looping and hip hop. This is blasphemy in its highest form and literally the text book definition of cultural appropriation, and it is being deliberately and blindly spread around the world, stealing the real credit from the real African American pioneers and creators.
Pete DJ Jones and DJ Flowers were some of the first to isolate the instrument break beat and extend and loop it, The get down. And that was influenced by James Brown shouting out get down and him dancing to the breakdowns and getting funky. That was the first DJ'S doing what Kool Herc named his merry go round technique. He didnt create it.
Rappers Delight literally copied that song by the Jubilaires' in this video Go Listen To Rappers Delight' it Sounds Just Like the jubilairs rapping in the 40s. They just changed the words' it is the same exact cadence' That cadence is the exact cadence and rapping flow of all hip hop in the 70s and 80s the foundation of hip hop' the black spades the true founders of hip hop culture said they were mimicking them and Pigmeat Markum during their snap battles which is basically battle rapping or cracking on each other over a beat and sometimes without a beat' So No! Kool Herc or Caribbeans did not create or inspire hip hop. It was actually the other way around. African American culture and music inspired Carribean culture. Was he and other Caribbeans early contributors and pioneers, yes. They contributed, but founding fathers no....
LOL "YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER"
They are laughing at us. You need more than just one "African American" perspective.... I notice this trend among other forums. THIS WAS APART OF THE PLAN..and you fell for it and embrace it to elevate yourself above AA... Maybe you came through the basement door. You all refuse to let it go because it fuels yoyr obession to be anything other than black. God Bless you... and again your WELCOME ... with love from my ancestors who made it possible for you
Stfu yall don't make nothing possible for us
@@ForeignBlasianLA yeah america wasnt racist lmaoo yall could of just came over at any time look what happen to the Haitians in Texas but sure did nothing
@@NOLUCKMVCK You do know caribbeans in the U.K. were notoroious bullies of African kids who were the new comers in the U.K. in the 80s and 90s. What you guys think is a U.S. think happens everywhere. Bahamians were known to not like Haitians immigrants and bully the in school. I can't say why black people do this stuff to each other but to make is seem like only AAs so this is a complete lie.
Beautiful people. It doesn’t matter what part of the world we come from, we are one people.
Thank you
No we’re not, it’s obvious… If we were the same there’d be no diaspora war…
No we’re not
@@lordschild673we didn’t create the diaspora war
@@crunchking9931 prove it
MLK and Medger Evers Afro American Civil Rights leaders who gave their lives for their people to enjoy the Civil Rights that we have in the USA. Caribbeans ain't gave me a damn thang I don't owe them NOTHING!!! PERIOD!!!
We are not discrediting all of the great leaders who have made an impact in our movement. But everyone in the movement has played a significant role whether they had the same platform or not. However what we need to focus on is how do we continue to make strides and impact in our communities.
@@LiveAtTheBarbershop That was Afro Americans who ended Jim Crow. It was Afro American Civil Rights leaders that Made the Civil Rights Act of 1964 a reality. It was Afro American Civil rights leaders that made the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 a reality. HBCU schools where any Black person regardless of Tribe or National origin could have gone to to get an education. Laws, Government programs. Grants, Affirmative action. etc etc. Afro Americans gave their lives in this country so that no Black person would ever have to sit on the back of the bus, drink from a colored only fountain, or walk down the street with their head down when passing a YT. I don't owe no Black Foreigners anything they did not sacrafice themselves like my ancestors during the Civil Rights Movement period. They came here in Mass numbers after the Civil Rights Movement was over after we ended the Jim Crow Apartheid system in this country.
It is clear that you hate foreigners even though we are all from the mother land. Civil Rights fighters like Malcom X and W.E.B. Du Bois had Caribbean heritage?
Brother take the time out and read the title. It clearly says “Being Caribbean in Black America’. It is our story on what we experienced. Now don’t get it twisted Caribbeans were intertwined in Black America moving toward a change. It’s funny how whites don’t have this within their race/conversation. It killls you to hear that another black man/woman that looks like you but just comes from another part of the world helped to bring us all to where we are now. Note this Harry Belafonte help the fund so many things that Martin Luther King needed to get the movement going so do your research on where Harry Belafonte‘s people are from as well go without him Martin Luther King would still be locked up sometime in jail he helped define the civil rights movement and that’s just one individual we talking about we can go down the long list the music that you listen to salt and pepper special ed KRS one, queen Latifah we can go down the line keep going so if you want to talk we can talk give me your information and we can get you on the show but I don’t see the separation that you keep bringing up
with these discussions cause white America don’t have the same discussion white America not discussion or arguing all holes from Ireland from walls from England or who’s originally American neither one of us originally from here yeah you’re born here with your ancestors enough from here so you’re fighting for a block that you don’t even control.
@@LiveAtTheBarbershop I don't hate foreigners I'm just keeping it real. Caribbeans and Africans talk mad shyt to Afro Americans dogging us out like we owe them something I don't owe you NOTHING!!! PERIOD!!! Address the Anti Black American sentiment coming from Immigrant groups Calling us Akatas and Yankees y'all live to be divisive but take no accountability for your actions. Malcom X Father was a Black American and WEB Dubois Mother was Black American. They were not of full Caribbean lineage and they were both born in the USA.
@@LiveAtTheBarbershop Hip-hop is not from the Caribbean. Kool Herc was a Jamaican Immigrant who immigrated to the USA at 12 years of age. He immersed himself into Afro American Culture and began Mixing the Music of African Americans. He used African American Cultural Art Forms of Soul and Funk Music especially the Music of James Brown to extend the Breaks which eventually led to Hip-hop. Nothing about Hip-hop Culturally is from the Caribbean. Hip-hop is derived from the African American Cultural Art Forms of Soul and Funk Music.
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I am 70 years old a black Israelite America. I never had a problem with my Haitian or Jamaican or any west Indian. Brother we all need to come together as one
You might not have that problem but every on this panel had a story.
@LiveAtTheBarbershop - these FBA'S don't like Jamaicans or west Indians .they are very racist people.
Indigenous Black American from Jersey. We never had issues I grew up around Jamaicans Puerto Ricans I only knew one Haitian in school. But I'm from the newer generation in the 2000s 90s baby. So that ethnic tension was a lot more prevalent in the 70s and 80s. We all into the indigenous knowledge so all that colonized fuckary is absent among us. Let's keep pushing for positivity and no slander on the Aboriginal Americans (misnamed African Americans) of the now USA we put in pain and paved the ways for us to live in coexistence through cultivating our Indigenous Mainland American culture (Hip Hop) in the NYC area with later assistance our neighbors of Caribbean descent. Let's keep it cool 😎
You are delusional
Most of these west Indian Imitate black Americans until this day
In what way? Just asking..
What are you talking about
@@washonmontgomery946 how are we imitating u fam, black Americans have taken alot of stuff from Caribbean without even knowing
@@dominicpersaud1155 Ska music rock steady reggae dance hall toasting dub plate come from black Americans
@@dominicpersaud1155 imitating means act like
No black Americans claimed to be Jamaican bull crap
Right yall claim to be Native Americans lol
@@BurnerBoy-mw7tx nah we claim to be aboriginal that's different. And if you studied history you'd know the difference.
@@roybabineaux5353 Jews, isrealites, African American now aborginal. Disgrace to the ancestors
@@roybabineaux5353 says the person who denies their African ancestors be quiet you confused person
@@BurnerBoy-mw7txwhat difference does it make yall got dropped of in islands yall do t even know your own history
Caribbeans really over estimate their presence in America. First, most Black Americans who are Descendants of North American/US Slavery and have been here for over 400 plus years in the USA do not engage, talk to, nor have relationships with Caribbeans. That's a fact. The Black Caribbean population is small compared to us, and Black Americans live all over the USA including states and cities with no Black Caribbean presence, especially in smal towns and rural communities in the Deep South outside of Florida. So, to make a generalizing assessment of a group of people who don't even know you is not sound logical thinking at all. We do not typically share the same spaces. Either you are non present or your numbers are so low that you are not recognized as a significant population. That is like that in many American cities, small towns, and rural communities. Next, you do have your distinct cultures, histories, and traditions that are separate from Black Americans who are Descendants of North American/US Slavery. Furthermore, anyone who is Black could be called African Booty scratcher as a child because Black Americans called each other that when roasting each other. This has been explained numerous times to Caribbeans, but they still put this false narrative out that it only targeted foreign Black people.
Just nuts 🤣
You are cursed
It was Marcus Garvey who inspired black Americans, go check the life of Malcolm X.
A Jamaican inspiring a half Grenadian, in Malcolm X
You need to stop, it was Booker T Washington who inspired Garvey, know your history first before spewing nonsense. Garvey was cool but not as cool as you think.
Yes Marcus Garvey admired Book T Washington ,you get your facts right me boy,WE Dubois contributed to getting him deported ,calling him an ugly black man stab him in the back
Furthermore Martin Luther king Jr said Garvey was the first man to inspire black bride ,tell me It ain't true.
Correction the first black man to mobilize millions
WE Dubois help get rid of Marcus Garvey say it ain't true.
From which heritage was the man who arranged a trustfund for MLK'S children ?????????
Black Americans are separating now so y'all tethers can go do you.
Black American men and women can't get along with each other.
We gave u malcom x and farrakhan
@@realtalk7.77 Who raised Farrakhan? Elijah Muhammad, and Malcolm father was FBA,try again.And plus they was within FBA culture not no fleeing tethers
Malcom x hates fbas
2 pac too
Yall not revolutionaries like malcom the tether
Yall are cowards and assimilated with the white americans.@@litebeingimmortal7375
But no one here was nasty, they just spoke of their experience. I believe the people who’s catching feelings already have an axe to grind. I’m sure most of you who are beefing actually speaking from second hand information and had no real experience with foreign blacks.
I'm half and half, It's painful because it's true. It's not isolated. They are catching feelings because it's true and it's a contradiction to many channels that calling black immigrants anti-black. This should disturb black Americans how everyone else can see it. 🫠
Divide and conquer game set in motion by "Massa" whether the plantation was cotton or cane sugar.
Not by Massa. Of our own doing.
Black americans doing@@benjaminsmith2287
Ignorance is bliss, prejudice means to pre judge people you don't even know.
I'm a Trini born breed living in the US for the past 25 years. AA, BA, MS and working on a PhD and will never lose my accent. CNN didn't have to tell me I had one of the sexist accents in the world. TRINI TO THE BONE!
Who u told u Trinis have the sexiest accent in the world? LOL... idk about that one.
@@lateiro6845what’s better? The AAVE ???🤪😊
@@BurnerBoy-mw7tx what the hell is AAVE? LOL
@@lateiro6845 🤪🤪🤪
Trini accents are horrible, sing songy accents
Oh i forgot our music is second to none.
I just don't like when black Americans call me foreigner.
Were u born in America?
Are u
If you are one....then
That’s what you are
Will that make you pack your bags for home?
We don't like when you people call us Akata or Yankees
Thx God, I'm from Haitian decent, and was born in America, but raised all my life in Canada, now Back in the USA working as a Control Systems Engineer in the USA. At the very least, I skipped all that colorism/racism/bullying as a kid. I had other problems. People didn't like me, because I played Yu-Gi-Oh and watched Anime.
Note I did have white people asking me to pronounce Robert, Roger, Raymond and laughing. Because we turn R to Ws.
@@tbk01🇭🇹 Ayiti!
I’m happy the true colors finally showin lol
👏
@@realtomorrow3907 I always knew most hate us. And we pay them no mind
@@rocsteadyh.o.g4247 you hate us too!! so don’t act like you’re the victim.
black foreigners were not welcomed here by black natives, we were insulted, demoralized and made fun of, so who the phuque is gonna show love for a people who don’t love nobody??
Afro Americans never looked in the mirror all these years, yet they contend that everybody hates them, how so??
First of all I don’t think it’s hate, but more fear and distrust. talk to the African and Haitian cab drivers how many times they were robbed at gun point by yankee boys, how many times innocent people going about their way were jumped by americans, how many time we heard “go back to your banana boat” and the multiple insults thrown over the years.
The fact that you didn’t welcome us and show us love, we still try to reach out to you brothers and sisters in friendship, but you still pored it on with the bullsh!t. so don’t play the victim now.
In all honesty we really need to have an honest discussion on this issue and bury the phuq en hatchet and move on, instead of prolonging this phuqery.
both afro Americans and Caribbeans are intertwined nowadays, we have children together, we share communities and cultural expressions, so let’s move on and heal before the enemy find us fighting amongst ourselves like they found our ancestors in the 14th century. United we stand divided we fall. Peace.
I'm still trying to get a plane ticket to Black America I found Haiti Jamaica Trinidad and Virgin Island but no Black America is there even a flag or passport?
No. Black americans have no land, flag, language or property. They stayed happyslaves
Being Americanized is not the same as being of the same ethnic group or lineage. You are just an Americanized Caribbean descent Black person. You can't crowbar yourself into the same lineage and ethnic group. You are confusing ethnicity and lineage with nationality and race. If your lineage goes back to a Caribbean country, then that is your lineage and ethnicity. Being born in America doesn't make you the same lineage as a Black American whose family goes back hundreds of years and has a distinct culture and history of our own. It makes you an Americanized Caribbean. It makes you a US citizen. It makes you American. But, not of our lineage. And, you folks make it very clear you are your own distinct lineages and heritages and that's fine. So, what is up with the complaining?
Where would black Americans be without the help of Malcolm X Stokeley Carmichael, Harry Belafonte, Marcus Garvey.
You guys had to learn to be brave through Sidney Poitier
All of Caribbean heritage
@@juniorjohnson7020 Malcom x was a American
@@juniorjohnson7020Garvey had to come to the States to get his movement started because his own people didn’t believe in him in Jamaica!! Black Americans have consistently held the line and that way a lot y’all are over here
@@brucearmstead364you guys marginalise Caribbeans we taught you not to fear Europeans through Garvey ,Poitier,Malcolm X whose mother was Grenadian.
Stokeley Carmichael Trinidadian.
This is so stupid. I couldn't watch after 5 minutes.
Can I ask why did you find it stupid?
How so,I could relate coming from a west indian background and what they are talking about is very true.
I’m Panamanian also a West Indian and it ain’t stupid at all this was real shit they talked about.
when will people from other countries understand being born here didn't make you exempt from being called a African booty scratcher growing up in bk ny you didn't think about where a person was from you just got the joke off. kids not from the us got the joke off 2nd gene kids got the joke off. I grantee the people saying that can't even remember the person who called them that and where they from. yall just put it on AA. when we was called it to
They are going to believe that because it defeats their agenda
But who cares
I'm African American and i have been called an African Booty snatcher' Eddie Murphy made that joke in his standup and it went world wide'
Gaslighting
The reason why the rest of the world including Africa and the Caribbean has such a negative view of AA those descendants of American slavery is because you don’t control your image and how it’s presented to the world. What we learn about AA is the violence and that y’all are poor and only care about music and dancing. Similarly, how we tend to think Africans are poor and booty scratchers. This whole conversation imo is ignorant because we really have work to do in the community and we’re all losing in all front, Chinese moving in Africa and the Caribbean and the Clintons claiming Haiti, were really focus on the wrong front.
@JD really? That’s not the reason
You guys willing fed into these stereotypes about black Americans so you can assume you were better if you assimilate with the WS… if that’s the case we should believe you are scammers, broke, who only love dancing and don’t own any developed parts of your countries… ijs
What we learn about Africa is poverty and kids with Flys on them what we learn about Jamaica is marijuana addicts and criminal gangs in Kingston you don't control you images either lol
Africans do not control their image either. Actually what I keep saying in other parts of the word in Europe depending on the country caribbeans or Africans are called the criminal blacks and black Americans are better received.
@@AJ-pc5lnif that's the case why are Caribbean looked upon with more respect in the world including America, you come to uk they don't respect you for nothing but your music and dance.
You think we don't see bad images of you either ,poor excuse.find another
Lots of American people still think the other islands are located in Jamaica. People will ask me is Barbados in Jamaica etc.
I haven't found that more than they only know of Jamaica. Any type of accent that they hear is English spoken with a Caribbean accent they assume "Jamaican." Yet, to my ears, a Jamaican sounds much different than a Bajan or Trini. However, a Bajan and Trini isn't as different. Have to hear them speak for a bit before I'm hearing a difference.
Miramar as a neighborhood is very down right now.
NOT all Caribbean islands/countries are majority African. Trinidadians are ONLY 36% African as opposed to Jamaicans, who are 92% African.
Yeah, Trinis are something like 38 percent Indo-Trii and look like Indians. Jamaica has some Indians too and some Chinese but I don't know if they refer to them as that. I know Trinis call people red and such, but I think that's more the complexion/shade.
Your not black your carribean black is a ethnic group a social construct created in the usa
No it was not you can find "black" in many west african languages that predate america furthermore carribean is part of the americas the slaves in jamaica were called the same sht as the slaves in north carolina and seconfmd why you even fight for the right to be called a dam color in the first place, i am african american not a color
Caribbean contribute to the civil right movement, Harry Belafonte Malcolm X, Stokeley Carmichael, Sidney Poitier
@@juniorjohnson7020but y’all have none of these movements back home. Plus you have no allegiance to black Americans just trying to rock us to sleep. So your people can come to eat
@@BenjaminG27 They keep saying the same crazy weird shit to me. People like that are dangerous to everyone with our skin tone!
USA is constantly changing the definition of its AFrica-descent (mostly) people.
Y'all jealous of americaing people
We never said that I think you need to go back and watch
Typical African American can’t sit and listen
Black Americans were too chicken in the movie business, it was Sidney poitier who broke through for black American,he's Bahamas Caribbean.
So stop mocking Caribbeans
Have a 🪑 we’ve been here 400 years and gave them a safe place to immigrate too. Meanwhile y’all was bowing to the Queen and dancing for Parliament and some still trying to decide if they want to be independent. Keep it up and we’ll start an anti-tourism protest to the Caribbean for hate speech and see what will happen overnight. Don’t get mad just do better by your people. Move out of the UK, Canada, and USA by the millions to make change and increase the economy since everybody said they love who they are and where they are from. 🧢 I bet y’all won’t. 🤣
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@@foreverfly3113we've been here for eons 💯🦬🗿 we not from Africa
That Trinidadian guy is a NASTY LIAR! If he left Trinidad in 1988, Trinidad was already far developed. There were already lots of paved roads, highways and biways in Trinidad, because Trinidad has the world's largest lake of asphalt. It is ALWAYS some Trinidadian to put his country down.
This looks like a family reunion
Tariq nashid is doing this right now
can you send the link please
We are all black/ Africans
This sounds messed up and not going to lie. These are stories about how bad they treated me in high school at the beginning of the podcast. I laugh because any immigrant to a new countries want to go through that no matter if they're black, white , or whatever, being a new person's always going to be strange. But other than cracking jokes and occasionally bullying that is really all Africans Americans really dated to Caribbean folk and honestly the Haitians got at the worst and let's not forget other Caribbean people participated in Haitian jump date down in South Florida. But I always crack up because when I listened to the Caribbeans and Africans talk about the issues in the UK they went to war with each other and really fought to Immigrant black groups then not mess with each other so I find that more interesting that it's a natural pattern when two groups of people r4c classified and put next to each other lesson actually going to happen
Just go home, then you wouldn't have any problems
I'm half and half. I was born here to an American and I am not laughing. This is how I got treated by everyone including family. Now I'm messed up for avoiding them and I am the one who thinks they are n****s but we arrived here on slaveships. 🫠
First, Black people in the United States should drop the term 'Black American' and pick an African (Bantu) name for the (collective) group, e.g., Maboma ('many villages' < Kiswahili). The "Black American" term does nothing to denote that the associated person is of African origin. In fact, the term "Black American" sounds like someone who is classified as an appendage culturally , ethnically and philosophically to the American, the name that the white colonizers, who founded the eventual United States, gave themselves. Second, develop an Africa linkage/engagement plan. Just thinking out the box!
Thank you for your comment
We are not of East African Bantu orgin so that does not even make sense. We come from Igbo, Mende, Mandinak Wolof, Bubu, Fang, please stop trying to be fake woke without doing the research on the actual tribes black Americans come from. We are not from Somalia, Ethiopia, Tanzania, Kenya, Burundi etc We come from West African countries mainly and those countries were not around while the slave trade was happening.
@@jasminepearls1047we are not from africa
The minority of African & Caribbean names are European names tho
@@jasminepearls1047 Bantu is the language family from most of where the Diaspora Africans originated. i did not mean to imply East Afrika as a source. For instance, you are familiar w/ candied yams as an African dish in the US. The word 'yam' comes from the word nyami (Ewondo word coming from Cameroon) which means 'to eat'. Ewondo is a Bantu language.
Look at the thumbnail and the pictures they chose to put up for black America if that's not envy idk what is lol wow
that not envy at all
I caught that too, they ain't slick with that photo.
Dominican Puerto Rican Cubans only NYC blacks created hip hop NYC
Stop disrespecting Ethnic Black Americans. You foreigners didn't create one element of hip hop. Stop the ethnocide of black American people
No they didn't, this lie has to stop. The music, rap, graffiti, break dancing all came outside of New York.
Carver Ranches lmao……..
Caribbean person*
This is a very long overdue, very needed conversation. Respect to the panel for facilitating this!🫡✊🏾👊🏾
The cover art of this video is very tether-ishh
This is sad really
I would never like or associate with BA 🤢🤢🤢 YUCK
You need a hug sweetheart. Too much hate in your heart..
This is that jealous envy talk. You immigrants foreigners have a deep seeded inferiority complex against Black Americans
That's not right, iam west indian myself but damn.you forgot martin luther king fought for us to be in this country.
Thank you so much sister same here I would forever hate them for how they treated me when I was in Middle School and high School they have no manners and no self control
Yet in america if we so yuck get the fk out because if it wasnt for us you would still be in jamaica and im quite curious why you arent.