Side Effects of Diaspora Wars with Christina Brown | Small Doses Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- TikToker Christina Brown (@missxtinab) joins us to break down her viral video series about race, ethnicity, and the interconnectedness of Black culture around the globe.
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This collab could be a regular thing. Y'all are the same speed, brilliant and funny. This episode was a close second to Dr. Raquel. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
As an African American l got to say not everyone in the diaspora is at war. Some of us actually get along because we want to. I have never used being African American to belittle anyone within or outside the black diaspora and l am always disappointed when l meet black people who do no matter what their culture is. Some people struggle with this mindset because they want to feel superior over other black people within this system others are operating out of hurt for what they feel has been done to them. Whatever the reason it is all detrimental to black people as a whole. By all means celebrate and be proud of who you are but when you use who you are culturally to dehumanize other black people it's not pride that you have at all but the exact opposite. Great conversation.
We're the bad guys now...they'll interact with 2 ignaorant AA and think all of us are that way...
Facts! You hit it right on the nail when you said that it's alright to feel proud and celebrate their culture, but don't diminish the Black Americans success and accomplishments because they feel inferior because of other Black American people success and accomplishments ,because it's not pride its jealousy and envy. Facts!!!
This is the Most intelligent comment on this post
Same most experiences I've had with AA are superb.....However, when we come over here I feel like AA say to themselves: "wow, now we got some field nyggas so we can finally be the house nyggas" so they try to exert this superior and if you know anything about a Jamaican you know we don't play that. So when we respond then we are rude and whatever. And for me as a Jamaican, I just step back and not be bothered with the AA....
@uniqueamerican4963 If a survey was taken by continental Africans and the rest of the diaspora you would find that we don't see ourselves as inferior to Black Americans. We are just as proud of our culture and accomplishments as you all are. However, judging by your comment, it would suggest that we have nothing of value to be proud of. Is it at all possible that you are not well-versed in the accomplishments of others in the diaspora? Does our GDP, when compared to that of the USA, automatically give famine, war, extended bellies, and flies around the mouth vibe and that we are all too busy contending with our existence that there is no time to pursue anything else in life?
We are all very aware of Black American accomplishments. We are also aware that some are ordinary people, some damn near illiterate, impoverished, homeless, and strung out on drugs. Should we pretend that we don't see this and play along with the narrative that Black Americans are superhumans?
Yes, we are the same. I had the pleasure of living a semester in Ghana as an exchange student, and every nuance, dance move, knitted brow, movement of the black-woman's hip etc. I had seen or heard in the diaspora, I saw its root in someone or something in Africa. I finally understood WHO I was.
Watching this feels like I’m back in college, sitting in the cafe having this convo with classmates.
Im loving this episode. This was a topic I didn’t know I needed. A few of my favorite pieces of Black American culture are, the food, film/TV/comedy, dancing, the music, AAVE, fashion, and haaaiiiir 😍
We’re the youngest group of the diaspora and we’re just trying to cope and create our own culture in American. Sometimes our efforts to be unapologetic Black and combat unconscious white washing may lead some of us to do things that may not always positively represent who we are, in the eyes of others in the diaspora, bc they have the privilege of rich culture and more refined ways of being.
Who is WE???? Most people who are 1st and 2nd generation from a Caribbean or African country in America coon for white people and look down on the Black people that have been in the America since the 1600’s.
Smh, we have a rich and vibrant culture...this is a problem that you put them on a pedastal and belive youre lesser..we have stop saying this nonsense out loud..so embarrassing.
@@bettycavalier rich southern AMERICAN culture. Give me a country, city, tribe your ancestors came from. You missed the point.
@@idolgray you miss the point. Yes we have our own culture, but it’s not based on a specific African country, language, tribe. Our culture is what was left after slavery. You’re embarrassing with your surface level thinking.
@@LaurenAshlei ...continue to have low self esteem and feel inferior...
This was a great conversation. I am a supporter of both your platforms to see you both together 👩🏽🍳🤌🏽. As a black American I have found myself intentionally reaching out to more people in the diaspora and having intentional conversations. Half my friends are black and from Africa and it has increased my desire to to engage with more people in the diaspora. Thank you for sharing 🤎
Bring her back! I love her energy.
I love this conversation. This series is hitting for me.
For me, Southeast Asians and Asian indigenous people are erased from larger AAPI media and representation. So many nuanced experiences, colonization and genocide history yet lumped into “Asian”. The idea of measuring diversity against whiteness is so universal.
Exactly. That has got to stop.
Happy Born day to The Honorable El Malik Shabazz aka Malcolm X. Thank you queen for this episode. Big up!!!
I would love to join in on the diaspora discussion as an AA with a Jamaican boyfriend. It’s insane how ignorant we are of history and how so many people have ignorant views of AAs
You must live in the degenerate immigrant hub of NYC/ south Florida to be dating a immigrant 😂
They actually starting bringing in Jamaican migrants to work in the south because African Americans were boycotting low wages. They tried to undermine the efforts of black Americans who refused slave wages and so they perpetuated the black Americans are lazy stereotypes to Jamaicans and other caribbeans and when they went back to the caribben they went around telling other caribbeans that we were lazy and didn't want to work even thought AAs the 1960s I believe were working for 1 or 2 dollars a day hard labor. Shirley Chisolm, a Bajan immigrant and politician wrote about how they gave caribbean immigrants housing that they refused to give black Americans.
This was such a great conversation and I really loved and appreciated the big sis/lil sis energy 💕 Shout out to Amanda supporting Christina's work and effort.
I LOVE this entire channel. You give us knowledge, laughter, empowerment, and TRUTH! This episode was AMAZING! I am a “PK,” and at 41 years old I have really been struggling with my spirituality lately. I feel SO connected to everything that I’ve been taught is “demonic.”Thank you for shedding light on this. Keep going, we need this! Love you🫶🏽🖤
Christina: “I just don’t like things that don’t make sense”
Amanda: what’s your sign?
C: Scorpio
Me (internally as a Scorpio): I say that line DAILY.
I feel like this is very Virgo thinking as well. I literally say this daily. There has to be a phobia or term for us people who’s ultimate pet peeve is shyt that don’t make sense. Lol what is the word for us?
i find myself continually coming back to this episode. this one was such a gem in all ways.
I’m only 13 mins in and the brooklyn argument on the st next to the taco truck with the cuba Jamaican was so ACCURATE!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ugh loving the episode so far
I love Christina's videos on TikTok. Her explanations are very common sense based & easily understood! This collab feels right and on the same wavelength.
Love this discussion and love y’all! Def need another episode with you two! 🙏🏾
Also, side note, Jamaicans also make rice and peas with pigeon peas. However, we call it rice and “gungo” peas. I think that the rice and peas made with kidney beans have just been commercialized for Jamaica international, so everyone outside of Jamaica is only accustomed to that.
Love from NY! ❤️ (I’m Jamaican though lol 🇯🇲)
Perfect collaboration!!
Ran over from TikTok immediately 😭❤️ you guys have such fire chemistry! Loving this chat
Amanda your Trini sterotype of Christina was on point🇹🇹...and thank you giving her fair warning about Jamaican men 😄
I follow Christina and I love this conversation. 💞
I love that my two favorite people found each other
This is such an intellectual conversation. I love it. Best Diaspora conversation
Dope interview. Glad y’all connected.
One of my favorite things about Black American Culture is the known message of someone wearing a bonnet. They're either about to get there hair done, they're protecting their done hair for an occasion, or they don't think you need to see it 😂
Most black people do that shit
I love this conversation but unfortunately the folks who need to hear it are not present.
This was great ladies I throughly enjoyed this conversation and hope there is a part tew
Ooohhhh. I share a lot of these religious comparisons during my tours in New Orleans. Voodoo is a major part of the conversation. All of this - food, music, dance, culture, phenotypes, etc. are major parts of my tours. I'm very much enjoying this conversation. Ooohhh!!! Amanda just said "Legacy" as I was typing and my company is called Legacy Tours. 🎉 I love this!
The way I've been terrorized as a Black American from Caribbeans and Africans when I'm focused on being Pan-African and trying to unite us. This video was very healing!
What did they do to you?
Tell me about it . When my family came to Usa from Africa .FBA clowned my whole family beacuse we was darskinned how beautiful right!!
That’s karma
Another great episode, Amanda. This is why when many blacks in any part of the world profess "unity" of any kind I am slow to believe that it is genuine. Black Diaspora wars are a waste of time when you see other ethnic communities (immigrating to America, for example) running around proud to greet and automatically link up with their own anywhere they encounter them, whether they know them or not. When will we get there??? Who knows.
Honestly it’s not a waste of time… all immigrants do not think like that or link like that. You’re obviously not Caribbean. Iykyk.
Respectfully, I want to challenge part of this, because I don't think that that communal-but-without-any-friction behavior is as prevalent in other diaspora communities as we sometimes think. The Desi Diaspora, for example, or the Jewish Diaspora. They are of course wonderful communities and there is much fellow-feeling within them, but that doesn't mean that there is never friction between members of the Beta-Israel (Jewish folks with long roots in Ethiopia) and the Ashkenazim (Jewish folks with a long history in Eastern Europe). They still come from Palestine/Israel (insert other name for the Holy Land if you prefer) originally, but they went other places along the way. Just like us. Sometimes kinfolk fight. We just gotta keep working at it!
@@ADubbs-fd8xf Good points. I guess I go by what I have witnessed personally.
@@TheRetroWoman80 I get that!
This episode was lovely. More, please🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Thank You! 🇺🇸 ✊🏽 Christina!
Literally always said Christina is the new generation Amanda❤🔥 this is so dope!
Amanda thank you so much for this episode, it was so informative and I've gotten into so many of the diaspora wars and did not realize that's what that was SMH
I love following Christina and seeing how she reads people when they try to assume her ethnicity, this was a dope collab.
Funny side story. My Haitian mother-in-law is very spiritual, as is her Trinidadian bestie. And we were playing Heads Up at a gathering, and his mother was the person with the phone. She flipped it up and it said “harry potter”, and her bestie shouted out “THAT DEMONIC MOVIE WITH THE CHILDREN AND THE WITCHCRAFT”…. And she got the answer right 😭😭
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I have been happily anticipating this episode!!!! Thank you for this conversation! My Dad is also an Aquarius. Ha! I have a genuine question if anyone cares to engage. If we as black Americans where African cloths (like kente), would that be considered cultural appropriation? I’m sure this may seem silly question to some folks. I just respect that things like that have origins that I cannot identify with and don’t want to be disrespectful.
African here. Born (and currently residing) in Europe, 2 African parents and raised in West Africa. In my experience, a lot of white expats living in Africa wear all types of African clothing and no one bats an eye. It's viewed as appreciation of and/or assimilation into the culture. I doubt any Africans would have an issue with Black Americans/ African Americans wearing traditional African cloths. The only issue I could envision, is wearing the wrong type of cloth/color at the wrong moment (for instance wearing something that would typically be worn while grieving, at a celebration/party). But usually someone would let you know what is appropriate or not. TLDR: No, it wouldn't be considered cultural appropriation.
🇭🇹 the DCMWG episode got my attention; this episode made me subscribe 🎉 We here now 💃🏾
I Watch and listen to Christina on her podcast with this guy she knows.. how cool she made it on the couch with Amanda!!! Go Christina!!!! Je te suis!!!!
YES WE ARE ALL COUSINS!
Great discussion, thanks ladies👏🏽👍🏽💪🏽🙏🏾🌺
Another great and very educational discussion. Christina is very beautiful and intelligent sister.
Love the commentary about Dominicans it’s so true about us 😂🇩🇴
What a beautiful conversation❤
The collab we needed!! ❤
Oh I'm excited about this duo meeting up ❤
Yesss as a Virgo You're right Amanda when she said 'I don't like things that dint make sense'..I thought for sure she was a Virgo too, I always tell people Virgos and Scorpios have much in common there is a reason our symbols are quite similar ♍️♏️
THE COLLAB WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!
Excellent conversation!
❤❤❤❤❤ love both these ladies so much, then they drop a collab? I’m so happy 😊
Omg I follow her on TikTok. As a person who’s also been marked as “ethnically ambiguous” I’ve always had to “prove” I’m Black American, it’s annoying as hell lmao. But anyway, this collab was something I didn’t expect but DEFINITELY needed🙌🏾.
So many gems in this episode!
Great episode! Love having these conversations
2 of my favorites. Thank you❤
not voodoo, just magic in general which is why as an infant i instantly was freed from the white man's claws. "bible says magic is evil and i have to hate it? nope. not going to church anymore mama" my ancestral ties, memories and the orishas were too strong! always had an affinity, love and appreciation for magic so if i have to choose there is no choice. will always sing, dance, write and spellcast baby! magic comes from the motherland cause magic like music is LIFE.
Prior to the they identified themselves as, I’m not Black , I’m Nigerian, I’m not Black, I’m Ghanian, you get the point!!!!
I really enjoyed this episode! I'll be following Christina now!
I’ve followed you for years Amanda. Love where you’re taking Small Doses. Thank you both for this discussion. 🇸🇴🫶🏾
Yayyyy! That means a lot! Thank you!
I love this conversation, I'm with ya'll. Ok, on the durag, actually Negus Menelik wore it in like 1910.
I loved this conversation so much!
Loving this Collab!!!! ❤
EPIC EPISODE LOVED EVERY SECOND OF THIS
For context “As humans, we are obsessed with race,” Elba continued. “And that obsession can really hinder people’s aspirations, hinder people’s growth. Racism should be a topic for discussion, sure. Racism is very real. But from my perspective, it’s only as powerful as you allow it to be. I stopped describing myself as a Black actor when I realized it put me in a box. We’ve got to grow. We’ve got to. Our skin is no more than that: it’s just skin. Rant over.”-Idris Elba I don't think he ever said he wasn't black. I think he just wants to be an actor who happens to be black. I don't think Denzel walks around and says "I'm a black actor." I think people just label him an actor.
I love her. Glad you had her on.
I'm here for every part of this❤
Cmon sis, this why i fux with amanda seals!
Really love this duo.
Love this conversation!❤
BIG UP TRINI PPL❤🇹🇹
This convo definitely makes me want to learn more and to do something instead of watching shit happen over and over.
🇹🇹 Tobago birth and Boston (America) my part of the diaspora..
I didn’t know Christina wrote on Medium!
I need to check her out over there.
Listen I'm a ex Christian and I'm Spiritual now. And ATR is to be respected it is Not Of the Devil.. Know where u come from. Ase.. ✨️✨️
I am Reppin it all we are 1 in the same I love us from the Mother land to the Islands to America wherever we are we should be United ❤️
I just think from my own experience, Black Americans who aren’t immigrants are an ethnic group. And our identity being erased. Many can associate themselves as Black Americans when they’re Black immigrants or descendants of immigrants. So there’s so many Black immigrants who identify as both which erases our identity. Yet at the same time they distinguish themselves to bond based on the country they descend from, and play a role, knowing and unknowing that they are actively erasing our identity. So many Black immigrant doctors have disrespected me and disregarded my health problems as a disabled Black American. So our advocacy is being lost as well because of so much xenophobic immigrants.
How does someone literally being BOTH erase something? SMH.
This message in itself is xenophobic!!
I understand 🙏😢 I live in NC it's really bad 😭 some even join white supremacist organization to defund our public school system and black organizations that help the community.... But people don't think it's a real issue because the police 🚓 see us all as one... So I guess it's another one of those things like Darkism ..
Hbcu are getting taking over by African and Caribbean
black politics are getting taking over by immigrants
Not one lie told sis
Omg Christina from the place that we worked at to big time with miss Amanda. Tina your going to do well FR FR. Although we went down separate paths I pray and wish the best for you. Your going to go so far… if your ever in LBc hit me up. We should get lunch. Amanda shout out to you too and everything you do :-)
Diaspora wars are completely wrong and unnecessary.
It would be awesome for y’all to make a Part 2 and include Jouelzy. She has done some amazing videos on Diaspora wars
I do think it's important to piece a part race, ethnicity, and nationality. Black America is a nation within a nation - but comprises a myriad of ethnic groups. Those who descend from folks from and of the United States are African American. There are also Haitian-Americans, Trinidadian-Americans, and so on. It's powerful to uphold and recognize that we exist in a mosaic - rather than conflate all. A person being born in America does not make them ethnically African American - for example - and that is okay.
Well Done Queens ❤️❤️❤️
I'm from Shreveport too and I think everyone believes new Orleans is the only place that exists in Louisiana. Never heard of blood and spaghetti until I moved to the Midwest
14:20 it’s a julibee video about black people and African people views on racism ❤️❤️
the way they both sighed 😂 21:40
A lot of Black ppl are starting to say that we’re native but what they really mean is that some(a few) are aboriginal to America. They migrated here from Africa but key word is migrated and that doesn’t mean that slavery didn’t happen. Both can be true but the majority of us were brought here as slaves.
Sorry I edit it bcuz I had a typo but thanks @Amanda Seales❤️
Its just a stalling tactics to avoid being African just self hate they hate their african dna !
As a Haitian American being told I’m not black makes me have a mixture of bad feelings. Like this is ignorant as hell but it ain’t your fault.😭 Also I don’t think AA know how much us first gen Caribbean Americans go up for African Americans. I used to get into bad arguments with my mom about her prejudices against AA and I also get into it with AA prejudices against Caribbean people. Shit is exhausting.
Omg I agree
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Ehhhhh.... I don't know about that. The most ignorant comments I've heard about AAs have been from Caribbeans and Africans, and I'm a first-generation African. Those two groups go out of their way to undermine and minimize AA culture while simultaneously benefiting from their culture. I also noticed a lot of vitrol towards Haitians from other Caribbeans. Like, I will never understand that. But for the most part, AAs really be minding their business. And AAs are more inclusive when it comes to their culture.
@@AfriqueAmericanPrincess that is complete bullshit. I see nothing but comments from African-Americans being xenophobic on the daily. Y’all think slavery is an excuse to disrespect everybody. We were slaves too. African-American swear everybody hates them which is extremely arrogant to assume anybody is worried about y’all when people back home are just as black and starving with little to no resources. For some reason, African-Americans think everybody got it sweet except for them. You’ll forget that same boat stop in the Caribbean and South America. We don’t say y’all don’t have culture. We say that you guys identify with your race and not your nationality. Y’all should be proud to be Americans, but y’all want to hold on to race (black) above culture as if white people didn’t create black and white. 90% of Haiti is black so we don’t have to say we’re black because it’s obvious. We identify with our culture which includes being black (African). Furthermore, y’all benefit from other people culture too so please with this victim shit. It’s the perpetual victimhood of African-Americans and the arrogance to think everybody hates you guys. It’s ridiculous. The conversation is ridiculous because the amount of African-Americans that have touched wealth and education out numbers people living in Third World countries yet y’all still think that we look down on y’all. We look down on the degenerates of all nationalities and races. So stop trying to make it seem as if everybody hates y’all. Again a lot of our families are starving and uneducated so please we ain’t worried about y’all.
@@AfriqueAmericanPrincess and let’s not talk about African-American culture because a lot of Caribbean and African people have contributed to African-American culture. Marcus Garvey wasn’t African-American. Malcolm X was half Caribbean. Basquiat was Haitian and Puerto Rican. Shirley Chisholm was not African-American. Biggie mother is Jamaican. I mean the list goes on and on and on. Y’all gonna be real mad when we start telling the truth about who’s really Caribbean American.
oh a LSA member lol hahaha love it let me go sub to her channel
The hair chart was for us but you know other people wanted to join the bandwagon
I ❤️ me some EDUCATED BLACK WOMEN😘💯💋
Yal are both gorgeous 😍 great convo
When she said she's a Scorpio... that made sense😂
We need more woke Amanda seal’s conversation like this
Whaaaaat?! I will be here!
Afro-Caribbean here.... The difference between black people on Puerto Rico, Cuba, Haiti, the U.S., Mexico, Colombia or anywhere else in the world besides Africa..... is Where the boat stopped First... don't let the colonial white supremacy mentality tell you any different..
I love this!!!!❤
General respect would be great on both sides. Also, ppl need to stop generalizing other groups based off of their personal experience. Peace and love Black folks, I hope none of y'all get pulled over. Also, is it me or does Christina look like Bruno Mars?🤩😍
I’d say 4a for Amanda and 3a for Chis
Christina is even doing Le t'chip. Black people are the same across the planet!
6:01 Amanda, where is your beautiful guest from? Heritage?
By the way, everybody in the Caribbean uses pigeon peas. 😂😂😂
FYI, Psychologically, what the other Diaspora's are feeling is ENVY. AA are the most Powerful Diaspora! We made everything outta nothing. And Still we Rise! ✊🏿!
This statement is worded strange. African Americans are apart of the African Diaspora as are Afro-West Indian/Caribbean, Afro Brazilians,etc.