In North of Sweden where im from we would invite the friend to join us for the meal. Would never let him sit in the room waiting. Its different in the bigger cities, they are much more stiff there. They must plan everything in advance, even visiting their family, making appointments with them. In North of Sweden you just go to your friends and family anytime, you are always welcome.
It sounded like that explanation for why "swedengate" exists was how it came to be once. I have a very hard time believing anyone should care about not indebting (is that a word? It is now.) someone like that today. Why we still do it? Apart from the old scapegoat "tradition" I would also say because of the other thing he talked about. Planning. We usually plan for our dinners, and that kids parents have already made dinner plans which that kid is a part of. So don't f up someone elses dinner plans by feeding their kids. :) It could also be very tricky for the "hosts", since we are pretty much free roaming kids in Sweden, we tend to gather in groups somewhere, playing football in someones backyard or something. It's not that easy to all of a sudden hade 7 kids fo feed when you were only expecting 1. :)
This!!! It’s more of a politeness thing. Don’t mess up other families dinner plans and don’t be rude by assuming that you’re automatically always gonna be invited. As for the debt thing that was only a theory as to where it came from? Atleast as far as I know. I also heard another one that it apparently came from after the war since food was scarce and a third one that it has to do with our overall antisocial social culture.
as a swede, rember it is consider rude if u give your childs friends food without the consent of mother or fathers permisson. it can mean that u do that becuse u think they cant feed their own childs . beggeri and handsouts ar a big no in swedish workingclass, middleclass culture.
I have been to a few countries in Europe, and while I admit my sample size is still very small, of the 4 countries in Europe I have visited the Normandy region of France has been the most welcoming place. The warmth of the French people that live there makes it more welcoming than Britain or The Netherlands, and my experience in Switzerland was not unfriendly, but it was very formal in many ways, and thus not as hospitable. I think that the places in Europe that are the most hospitable will tend to be the places that were occupied by the Axis in World War 2, and were liberated by the British and Canadians and Americans and troops from other Western Allied nations.
I am a Nigerian living in Europe and I'd say people can be rather formal or a bit "cold" but overall they are polite and welcoming. Yet I have a positive bias towards Italy, hospitality in Sicily is epic ! The guest is holy (and this felt familiar to me!) Also Greece, whoa , guess the Mediterranean style😊
I was eating in my friends houses and my childrens friends eats here to, but i have a close relation with the parents so i know what the kids like and i tell the parents before i feed them, so they dont make to much food in their place, its more a way of showing respect to the other family, and of course if a friend is here and they are hungry the most parents give the children something to eat 😅 And for many Swedish families are dinnertime very valuable, its the time in the evening when the whole family is together and enjoy to be together as a family 😊
What? I'm swedish and everytime I was at a friend's place or a friend was at our place, everyone would eat together. Btw, I'm 31 and from Skåne (Scania), in southern Sweden.
Yeah.. Swedengate is a thing.. but a no brainer if one live in northern europe! At first, the richest part of the world, so its not about food scarcety, its more about that both parents work full time jobs.. its more about scarcety of time! And there is no third generation in our house that prepare food, we have put them at elderly care homes! And then our kid bring some friend home after school, that can wreck parents dinner planing, but thats seldome any problem, its more if one interfere with the other familys dinner planing! Today this is no problem.. becuse even our kids have cellphones! But its still this that parents want there kids showing up for dinner.. at latest for dinnertime! Another thing is our climate and social norms.. the moste importante thing is "indipendens", that links to "tacksamhetskuld", (dept gratitude).. and there is a saying, "den som är satt i skuld är inte fri", (those in dept is not free)! It can spill ower to our social life, there is another saying, scandinavians are like coconuts, a hard shell and a soft kernel, it takes time and efforts to get trough the outer shell to hit the soft kernel! Its the same for foreginers and scandinavians! On top of that.. our climate, there is at least four seasons, and we adapt to that.. let say half of the year its cold and dark, its our social hibernating stage, but there is a few festivities to celebrate.. its often "free days of", with full salary! There is altso things happen at school, like Lucia for kids, cristmas eve is for the closest familys, new year eve is for adults/couples, having a big party! February "sporting leave", is when one supose to go out and skiing, or fly to the alps or Spain/Thailand! Its this.. living high up in the north, make us adapted to this, soo our social norms and behavior is appropriate for living in a subarctic region!
In North of Sweden where im from we would invite the friend to join us for the meal. Would never let him sit in the room waiting.
Its different in the bigger cities, they are much more stiff there. They must plan everything in advance, even visiting their family, making appointments with them.
In North of Sweden you just go to your friends and family anytime, you are always welcome.
It sounded like that explanation for why "swedengate" exists was how it came to be once. I have a very hard time believing anyone should care about not indebting (is that a word? It is now.) someone like that today.
Why we still do it? Apart from the old scapegoat "tradition" I would also say because of the other thing he talked about. Planning. We usually plan for our dinners, and that kids parents have already made dinner plans which that kid is a part of. So don't f up someone elses dinner plans by feeding their kids. :) It could also be very tricky for the "hosts", since we are pretty much free roaming kids in Sweden, we tend to gather in groups somewhere, playing football in someones backyard or something. It's not that easy to all of a sudden hade 7 kids fo feed when you were only expecting 1. :)
This!!! It’s more of a politeness thing. Don’t mess up other families dinner plans and don’t be rude by assuming that you’re automatically always gonna be invited. As for the debt thing that was only a theory as to where it came from? Atleast as far as I know. I also heard another one that it apparently came from after the war since food was scarce and a third one that it has to do with our overall antisocial social culture.
It definitely makes sense after you all explained it.
as a swede, rember it is consider rude if u give your childs friends food without the consent of mother or fathers permisson. it can mean that u do that becuse u think they cant feed their own childs . beggeri and handsouts ar a big no in swedish workingclass, middleclass culture.
I have been to a few countries in Europe, and while I admit my sample size is still very small, of the 4 countries in Europe I have visited the Normandy region of France has been the most welcoming place. The warmth of the French people that live there makes it more welcoming than Britain or The Netherlands, and my experience in Switzerland was not unfriendly, but it was very formal in many ways, and thus not as hospitable. I think that the places in Europe that are the most hospitable will tend to be the places that were occupied by the Axis in World War 2, and were liberated by the British and Canadians and Americans and troops from other Western Allied nations.
I am a Nigerian living in Europe and I'd say people can be rather formal or a bit "cold" but overall they are polite and welcoming. Yet I have a positive bias towards Italy, hospitality in Sicily is epic ! The guest is holy (and this felt familiar to me!)
Also Greece, whoa , guess the Mediterranean style😊
We’re so glad you have positive experiences!
Sweden gate was a big thing. Everyone was appalled. There were so many stories of kids leaving their friends in the room to eat dinner 😂😂
I was eating in my friends houses and my childrens friends eats here to, but i have a close relation with the parents so i know what the kids like and i tell the parents before i feed them, so they dont make to much food in their place, its more a way of showing respect to the other family, and of course if a friend is here and they are hungry the most parents give the children something to eat 😅
And for many Swedish families are dinnertime very valuable, its the time in the evening when the whole family is together and enjoy to be together as a family 😊
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What? I'm swedish and everytime I was at a friend's place or a friend was at our place, everyone would eat together. Btw, I'm 31 and from Skåne (Scania), in southern Sweden.
Yeah.. Swedengate is a thing.. but a no brainer if one live in northern europe!
At first, the richest part of the world, so its not about food scarcety, its more about that both parents work full time jobs.. its more about scarcety of time! And there is no third generation in our house that prepare food, we have put them at elderly care homes!
And then our kid bring some friend home after school, that can wreck parents dinner planing, but thats seldome any problem, its more if one interfere with the other familys dinner planing! Today this is no problem.. becuse even our kids have cellphones!
But its still this that parents want there kids showing up for dinner.. at latest for dinnertime!
Another thing is our climate and social norms.. the moste importante thing is "indipendens", that links to "tacksamhetskuld", (dept gratitude).. and there is a saying, "den som är satt i skuld är inte fri", (those in dept is not free)!
It can spill ower to our social life, there is another saying, scandinavians are like coconuts, a hard shell and a soft kernel, it takes time and efforts to get trough the outer shell to hit the soft kernel! Its the same for foreginers and scandinavians!
On top of that.. our climate, there is at least four seasons, and we adapt to that.. let say half of the year its cold and dark, its our social hibernating stage, but there is a few festivities to celebrate.. its often "free days of", with full salary!
There is altso things happen at school, like Lucia for kids, cristmas eve is for the closest familys, new year eve is for adults/couples, having a big party! February "sporting leave", is when one supose to go out and skiing, or fly to the alps or Spain/Thailand!
Its this.. living high up in the north, make us adapted to this, soo our social norms and behavior is appropriate for living in a subarctic region!