I installed one for my buddy. It was actually pretty sturdy after I got it in. Funny thing was he comes home a couple days after and he is texting me about being an asshole. I thought maybe I did something wrong. It was first time I installed it. He said no, That big turd you left in it. I said I did no such thing! We are always pranking each other so I didn't think too much about it. He called me a few days ago. His brother did it to piss him off, lol. I said, that was a shitty thing to do! Thanks Steven!
This video is a Steve Lav masterpiece. It deserves a Emmy award or something. Thanks Steve for taking us along your climb up Mt. Everest. Totally awesome. Next level.😊😊😊😊
Steve here's an idea for her door issue. Have her install a pocket door or Barn door. That's the only toilet you can actually see if the wax ring is compressed all the way. Must have cost a fortune!
Geez. That’s a nice toilet. I have a similar model from Toto. It’s the best toilet I’ve ever owned. It was tough to install and a tight fit, but it looks great and works like no other toilet. Toto is the way to go.
Yup. The pice that attaches to the flange makes it a LOT easier to make sure you have a good seal that stays with the wax ring. That mounting system looks ridiculous compared to the ones on my Totos - those things are solid. I'd never buy another Kohler.
Yup same here. I hate going anywhere as I love my Toto bidet. I never installed a toilet before and I have porcelain tile. I installed it myself drilled the holes in the porcelain. I thought it was fairly simple. I enjoyed the process. That style of toilet is called skirted. I have the 1200 bidet which was to top of the line a couple years ago. All the electric and supply are also hidden. Very nice sleek look.
I gave up on Totos. They are notorious for poop streaks due to the low water level in the bowl. I had several in our old house and promised I'd never go Toto again. Kohler high line arc is the way to go.
@@AmitroniX Love my Toto but you aren't lying about the poop streaks. I'm not pooping steaks. :) That's the only thing bad about them. It's not really the toilet that is the amazing experience it's the washlet which can be mounted on almost any toilet. I wanted to hide the water supply and power cord that's why I went with the skirted toilet. It's as close to a Neorest look without spending $5000 on one.
As usual, our Steve doesn’t sugar coat stuff. I love his content and the good education I receive. The hard pipe chrome supply is excellent. ~ I’m taking bets how soon he gets a stopped-up commode call back on that contraption. 😂
Cut to the design room at Kohler…. Kohler lead designer, “Boys, we need to design a toilet so impractical that Steve is gonna flip” Designers…”we can do it!” Steve, “ “this fucking shit, mama!”
The east way for the carpenter to solve the issue is rework the door jamb and convert it to opening out into the hallway instead of opening and closing in the room
I worked on a old skirted toilet last week. It didn't have the bracket just regular Johnny bolts. They were rusted on and spinning. I spent about 2 hours trying to cut the bolts because nothing would fit into the hole. Everything I tried to use ended up on a 45 degree angle to the bolt because of the access hole location. Eventually I took multitool blades and bent the tips on a 90 degree angle. I went through about 6 blades for the 2 bolts because those blades are pretty brittle steel. They snap when you try to bend them.
Jam-bar at amazon $15 , avoid the knock off please or $30 diablo multi tool blade , i use Milwaukee 3" chop tool , less vibration but protect new toilet from red hot metal near work .
I have installed those Kohler and Toto toilet before. At first I thought it was trash but after a couple installs I got used to installing them no problem. I usually won't recommend to have my customers to get these toilet because you can't run a closet auger down those toilet because you can break those flanges it comes with and the cost more than a regular toilet.
I installed a toto one piece skirted commode similar to this. One additional compliication was the skirt interfered withthe water supply. Had to relocate the supply line on top of the rest of the install. A 1-2 hour nomal install took me 3 days all in. That said the toilet is nice and solid, doesnt clog, and easy to clean. I used calk around base (save for the back) to ensure front was well secured to floor. I know youre not a fan of calk but this was more for mechanical support than anything else. Been 7 years without issue. But wouldnt want to do this type of install on a daily basis.
Mine installed last fall, love it. And I had plumber in weeks before, to relo the water stub upwards and more inboard towards the centerline. Drywall was gonna be patched elsewhere anyway. Glad I had that done ahead.
Lol.Same thing I thought when I first installed one. Good thing there is no audio. Here in California you have to be plumber/ engineer to install some of these crazy fixtures. What sucks is we are liable if they leak or cause damage. You gotta be kidding me 😂
That plastic gooseneck which attaches to the drain flange appears to be something that will make clearing the drain a big problem due to its odd shape and that its made of plastic. So true, all of those metal fasteners are going to be rusted tight after 5 years or so preventing them from being re-used so now would be a good time to have a second set of those parts stored away for when its time, you have them before they stop making them. I just can't imagine clearing the toilet from a blockage without damaging that black plastic drain extension at the U turn area.
Yes I see a major issue with that plastic gooseneck. Why oh why would you design something like this? This will just make things worse when it clogs. This is like another elbow that you must navigate around. Why? Stick to the original designs ppl. It worked for decades why change it?
anyone out there looking for a toilet we got a ToTo Tornado flush it is awsome. Flushes anything and fills up fast! Installed quickly and contained the fill valve installed.
This shit cracks me up. Doesn't make sense to change something that has work for ever. An extra hour for the extra work? How do you guarantee something you know nothing about?
Steve was installing a lot of Gerber Vipers awhile back. I installed one based upon his use. Had it a year and never had to snake it yet. However, it does leave harsh marks sometimes.
Steve, what toilet do you recommend? Say you want a toilet that is handy capped height, so that it is a little taller with the elongated bowl that will flush and not clog.
Steve I installed a $5600 Totto w/c on a remodel. The job reminds me of what I see you going through right now. Misery likes company. Thanks for the laff.
Was anyone else cringing when he dragged the new toilet over that nicely varnished floor, and then could be heard rubbing the damage off with the soles of his shoes? The homeowner will probably go mad when she sees the damage!
Lol about an hour before this dropped i had to send a RUclips link to my father and brother because a Koehler I installed 10 years ago started to leak. It was exactly like this.
Well at lease the wall paper was a nice touch. Swap out the sink for the smaller basin and everything will look great. Nice job on the installation, painful but nice!
To remove it in the future only requires one tool Steve, a hammer🙃....I would've coated the screws with never seize or Vaseline or any kind of grease to prevent seizing up in the future due to corrosion... Also, you didn't show it but I assume there was a rubber seal that mates the toilet to that weird elevated flange that's bolted to the floor flange?
Steve, That’s not toilet it is a throne for your customer the Queen. I’m with you I wouldn’t want that in my house. Give a good old American Standard before the water conservation toilets came to be mandated. Which you would have demonstrated how well it flushed. You realize that she will call you in the future if that toilet needs service, then you can say NO WAY call somebody else. Thank you Steve for the video and honest commentary during this installation.
Back when I was plumbing I always said Kohler is trying to reinvent the wheel . When I got a call to repair a Kohler tub and shower valve or any faucet for that matter I would hope I had the right parts on the truck . They change repair part styles as often as I change my socks . Way over priced .
Toilets are going to this design due to the obesity problem in America. They are designed to prevenr a cracked toilet or flange caused by rocking. Insurance companies have paid out alot of money because of this. Unfortunately this design is going to be the norm soon.
My friend is a plumber and I was a plumber along time ago, and I helped him do one of these and I had the same reaction you had, but he has done a few of these and he bang it out pretty quick and the faucet was crazy too, the piping got easier in plumbing but the faucets, geez what a pain in the ass
Kohler Unifit Adapter...Install them many times.That adapter has to fit Flush on the Floor. Kohler ALSO makes it 10 or 14" Rough..Once ya get the hang of it...I always caulk the adapter with silicone to floor. Also the Sink looks like an Estately ( Kohler) Kohler makes it in a BABY ESTATELY...could miss the Door ( Yup/ Kohler has some old Engineering stuff.
That toilet looks like it would work in Australia. Australian toilets discharge into the wall and have a plastic extension piece to connect to the wall. Kohler supplied an adaptor to discharge into the floor for the USA. Except that Australian toilets don't have those side hold down screws.
Those fixtures look really nice even if they were a pain to install. That sink may be able to be scootched a bit to the right to fix the door clearance issue. Either that or rehang the door to open out.
I agree with Trent, that was funny, sorry you had to install that crap Steve . But I’m sure you got paid well for that job. Take care Steve give Molly a pet for me.
I made toilets for American Standard in central Indiana one summer back in the 1960's. We got paid piecemeal at about 3 dollars a toiler and you were expected to make 25 a day. I can only imagine the molds it took to form these.
Fxxx Mickey Mouse w/c. As soon as I saw the Kohler box I burst into laughter. You have the best commentary of any plumbing channel I've ever watched. This is the reality of residential service plumbing--absolutely authentic. Kohler designs garbage like this because Americans buy it.
This video is not sponsored by Kohler.
Kohler ain’t doing so good these days after the family sold the company
I installed one for my buddy. It was actually pretty sturdy after I got it in. Funny thing was he comes home a couple days after and he is texting me about being an asshole. I thought maybe I did something wrong. It was first time I installed it. He said no, That big turd you left in it. I said I did no such thing! We are always pranking each other so I didn't think too much about it. He called me a few days ago. His brother did it to piss him off, lol. I said, that was a shitty thing to do! Thanks Steven!
This video is a Steve Lav masterpiece.
It deserves a Emmy award or something. Thanks Steve for taking us along your climb up Mt. Everest. Totally awesome. Next level.😊😊😊😊
That toilet reminds me of IKEA furniture. 2 million bolts, screws and nuts. 400 pages of instructions 😂😂😂
Damn you stole my thunder lol
This video should be played at the next Kohler board meeting
Although, 80% of the audio would need to be redacted because of Steve´s bad words about the toilet LOL
The engineer that designed it failed his plumbers test so, this is his way of cursing all plumbers.
Toilet Design Engineer TM
All marketing design driven. Imagine being the engineer to make it work from the drawing marketing provide them.
I have never laughed so hard through an entire video in my life. Thanks Steve.
This guy tells it as it is 😅
I was laughing the whole time wondering what if someone from Kohler was watching? Definitely not a product endorsement
Me too, I love watching Steve!
I always laugh when he says that
Steve was teleported from 1950 to 2050 to install a toilet.
"Kohler, fu***n trash" summed it up right there, lol
Even the blue birds in the wall paper were asking themselves WTF is this garbage
Good one about the birds on the wallpaper! I laughed so hard I have to go to the john now!
If you think this one is bad wait until you see a Toto with the Same type of install but you have to drill into the floor it worse
“I’d rather shit in a bucket and dump it in the woods…”😂😂😂😂😂
You know it's really bad when the plumber has to read the directions
I think we all suffered with Steve thru this video.. I hope he doesn't get a return call for a LEAK..🙄
its a flippin space shuttle toilet mama
What is a good brand of toilet to buy?.. I need to upgrade mine soon.. thanks Steve
I bet that toilet will block after any large dumps 💩💩 😂😂😂
Oh boy. A 23 piece toilet. This video is going to be comic gold.
This was exactly my reaction the first time I had to install one of these Kohler toilets. Things are a pain in the ass for sure
"I'll be dipped in shit" 🤣🤣
Reminded me of my Dad. He used to say "Well I'll be dipped in shit and rolled in sawdust"
@@Robnord1 🤣
OMG😂 That was so funny!!
Steven is working in the "High Rent District" in Dartmouth, Mass. Thanks for the video Steven. I'll keep that toilet in mind if my wife wants one.
@@zippythechicken This man knows a thing or two about clogging toliets
Nothing but quality here, Reinventing the shitter.
But believe it or not ? There's no stink ? They will be luck if the porcine does crack on the first fart .
It does look nice.
Who cares if it looks nice???? It's still a steaming piece of sh*t. You people are deranged.
Great work it looks nice
This video was great! It is the best plumbing video I have watched in long time.
Someone must have made 200,000 sheet metal brackets that were bent the wrong way, so they designed a toilet to repurpose them rather than scrap them.
Steve here's an idea for her door issue. Have her install a pocket door or Barn door. That's the only toilet you can actually see if the wax ring is compressed all the way. Must have cost a fortune!
That toilet is just a nightmare waiting to happen...wait for the first big turd.
Steven, what brand toilet do you suggest?
I think it’s pretty cool, I may buy one!
Geez. That’s a nice toilet. I have a similar model from Toto. It’s the best toilet I’ve ever owned. It was tough to install and a tight fit, but it looks great and works like no other toilet. Toto is the way to go.
TRUTH. I have the 1-piece Toto also, new 7 months ago. Tornadic water flush. 100% reliable and looks great.
Yup. The pice that attaches to the flange makes it a LOT easier to make sure you have a good seal that stays with the wax ring. That mounting system looks ridiculous compared to the ones on my Totos - those things are solid. I'd never buy another Kohler.
Yup same here. I hate going anywhere as I love my Toto bidet. I never installed a toilet before and I have porcelain tile. I installed it myself drilled the holes in the porcelain. I thought it was fairly simple. I enjoyed the process. That style of toilet is called skirted. I have the 1200 bidet which was to top of the line a couple years ago. All the electric and supply are also hidden. Very nice sleek look.
I gave up on Totos. They are notorious for poop streaks due to the low water level in the bowl. I had several in our old house and promised I'd never go Toto again. Kohler high line arc is the way to go.
@@AmitroniX Love my Toto but you aren't lying about the poop streaks. I'm not pooping steaks. :) That's the only thing bad about them. It's not really the toilet that is the amazing experience it's the washlet which can be mounted on almost any toilet. I wanted to hide the water supply and power cord that's why I went with the skirted toilet. It's as close to a Neorest look without spending $5000 on one.
What brand of toilet do you prefer or recommend ?
As usual, our Steve doesn’t sugar coat stuff. I love his content and the good education I receive. The hard pipe chrome supply is excellent. ~ I’m taking bets how soon he gets a stopped-up commode call back on that contraption. 😂
Nice smooth surface for easy cleaning! Love it!
Using a Craftsman flat head screwdriver from the 70s. On a space age toilet. I trust that screwdriver
That screwdriver will still be good years after that toilet has been trashed.
Cut to the design room at Kohler….
Kohler lead designer, “Boys, we need to design a toilet so impractical that Steve is gonna flip”
Designers…”we can do it!”
Steve, “ “this fucking shit, mama!”
The east way for the carpenter to solve the issue is rework the door jamb and convert it to opening out into the hallway instead of opening and closing in the room
Or a pocket slider with an interior lock.
I worked on a old skirted toilet last week. It didn't have the bracket just regular Johnny bolts. They were rusted on and spinning. I spent about 2 hours trying to cut the bolts because nothing would fit into the hole. Everything I tried to use ended up on a 45 degree angle to the bolt because of the access hole location. Eventually I took multitool blades and bent the tips on a 90 degree angle. I went through about 6 blades for the 2 bolts because those blades are pretty brittle steel. They snap when you try to bend them.
Jam-bar at amazon $15 , avoid the knock off please or $30 diablo multi tool blade , i use Milwaukee 3" chop tool , less vibration but protect new toilet from red hot metal near work .
Kohler makes everything complicated. Installed many of this toilets and sinks were everything has to be prefect or it dose not line up
Can you imagine being a handyman and stumbling across this to change the wax ring 25 years from now! What fun!
Actually looks pretty flipping nice … great work…
That is one of the new Earthquake proof models. 😂
Done a few of these. Kohler always reinventing the wheel. Turned out Ok. The old American Standards were the best.
This was easily my favorite video after all these years
I have installed those Kohler and Toto toilet before. At first I thought it was trash but after a couple installs I got used to installing them no problem. I usually won't recommend to have my customers to get these toilet because you can't run a closet auger down those toilet because you can break those flanges it comes with and the cost more than a regular toilet.
Dead Right Auger will not go down right
You made me laugh thanks for your videos
I installed a toto one piece skirted commode similar to this. One additional compliication was the skirt interfered withthe water supply. Had to relocate the supply line on top of the rest of the install. A 1-2 hour nomal install took me 3 days all in. That said the toilet is nice and solid, doesnt clog, and easy to clean. I used calk around base (save for the back) to ensure front was well secured to floor. I know youre not a fan of calk but this was more for mechanical support than anything else. Been 7 years without issue. But wouldnt want to do this type of install on a daily basis.
Mine installed last fall, love it. And I had plumber in weeks before, to relo the water stub upwards and more inboard towards the centerline. Drywall was gonna be patched elsewhere anyway. Glad I had that done ahead.
Lol.Same thing I thought when I first installed one. Good thing there is no audio. Here in California you have to be plumber/ engineer to install some of these crazy fixtures. What sucks is we are liable if they leak or cause damage. You gotta be kidding me 😂
All the talk got me 😂😂😂
That plastic gooseneck which attaches to the drain flange appears to be something that will make clearing the drain a big problem due to its odd shape and that its made of plastic. So true, all of those metal fasteners are going to be rusted tight after 5 years or so preventing them from being re-used so now would be a good time to have a second set of those parts stored away for when its time, you have them before they stop making them. I just can't imagine clearing the toilet from a blockage without damaging that black plastic drain extension at the U turn area.
Yes I see a major issue with that plastic gooseneck. Why oh why would you design something like this? This will just make things worse when it clogs. This is like another elbow that you must navigate around. Why? Stick to the original designs ppl. It worked for decades why change it?
That hardware is stainless. It will not rust. How well that plastic holds up when some fat ass rocks back on that thing is an open question.
That evil laugh at the end had me on the floor, misery loves company, glad you guys are here with me.
anyone out there looking for a toilet we got a ToTo Tornado flush it is awsome. Flushes anything and fills up fast! Installed quickly and contained the fill valve installed.
This shit cracks me up. Doesn't make sense to change something that has work for ever. An extra hour for the extra work? How do you guarantee something you know nothing about?
I’m waiting for the 8 oz flush…🙃
what brand do you like the most ?
Steve was installing a lot of Gerber Vipers awhile back. I installed one based upon his use. Had it a year and never had to snake it yet. However, it does leave harsh marks sometimes.
199k steve great work... 200k very soon i started i think at 66k bless u
And miss molly 😅
And the award for Best Video of 2024 goes to: 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Steve….you should charge double for that toilet 🚽 😅
Lmao, everyone has the same reaction when putting those in. I know I did 😂
Steve, what toilet do you recommend?
Say you want a toilet that is handy capped height, so that it is a little taller with the elongated bowl that will flush and not clog.
Steve I installed a $5600 Totto w/c on a remodel. The job reminds me of what I see you going through right now. Misery likes company. Thanks for the laff.
Tell her you recommend miralax because that toilet looks like it will clog easily with hard stools
The Toto’s don’t. Helps that water rushes down from rim like a tornado.
Was anyone else cringing when he dragged the new toilet over that nicely varnished floor, and then could be heard rubbing the damage off with the soles of his shoes?
The homeowner will probably go mad when she sees the damage!
I always use cardboard and set the toilet on that. I noticed what he did as well.
I love the wallpaper.
What’s your favourite brand or specific toilet Steve?
Lol about an hour before this dropped i had to send a RUclips link to my father and brother because a Koehler I installed 10 years ago started to leak. It was exactly like this.
Came back to watch this one again
Well at lease the wall paper was a nice touch. Swap out the sink for the smaller basin and everything will look great. Nice job on the installation, painful but nice!
Steve, it looks like you're assembling the electric chair...old sparky 😂🤣
To remove it in the future only requires one tool Steve, a hammer🙃....I would've coated the screws with never seize or Vaseline or any kind of grease to prevent seizing up in the future due to corrosion... Also, you didn't show it but I assume there was a rubber seal that mates the toilet to that weird elevated flange that's bolted to the floor flange?
was cracking up the entire video because I have installed that exact same toilet and said the same sh*t!
What an insane design!
It's a toilet, why complicate it so much!!
@@volvo09 I'm think it's that 1.28g flush lol, brilliant!
😂😂😂😂😂
@@HalKick2000 there was a commercial about that once... whimpy, whimpy whimpy.
Can you buy parts for it?
Good day Steve I've done two of those Nightmares. I was like you gotta be kidding me. The things we do to make that buck.
The best rant yet!
I have installed several of those toilets here in the Nashville , Tn area. They are terrible. Wait until you get a call back for sewer smell!
Next level toilet . New industry standard . American Standard 😂
i put these in all the time , he forgot to drill to holes in the floor to fastened the flange to the back
I'm glad to hang out with you Steve! Thank you for another day. And all the other plumma's who have your skills (New England accent).
Steve,
That’s not toilet it is a throne for your customer the Queen.
I’m with you I wouldn’t want that in my house.
Give a good old American Standard before the water conservation toilets came to be mandated.
Which you would have demonstrated how well it flushed.
You realize that she will call you in the future if that toilet needs service, then you can say NO WAY call somebody else.
Thank you Steve for the video and honest commentary during this installation.
I wonder what these things are for? I love you Steve!
Those kohler engineers are suit and tie plumbers who never even plunged a toilet.
Steve, if this one looks like a space shuttle. Take a look at the Toto toilet flange adapters. They are the true space toilets .
Back when I was plumbing I always said Kohler is trying to reinvent the wheel . When I got a call to repair a Kohler tub and shower valve or any faucet for that matter I would hope I had the right parts on the truck . They change repair part styles as often as I change my socks . Way over priced .
Toilets are going to this design due to the obesity problem in America. They are designed to prevenr a cracked toilet or flange caused by rocking. Insurance companies have paid out alot of money because of this. Unfortunately this design is going to be the norm soon.
Soooo You Don't Like it?
That💩 is going to be dizzy by the time it hits the pipe . That toilet is junk . Unprotected metal in a wet area?the room needs a pocket door .
👍 I checked out the website...... Wow
Damm Steve, you got it installed, I've yet to see such an assembly! Great video though 👌 👏 👍
I've never installed one of them. Tx 4 sharing !
My friend is a plumber and I was a plumber along time ago, and I helped him do one of these and I had the same reaction you had, but he has done a few of these and he bang it out pretty quick and the faucet was crazy too, the piping got easier in plumbing but the faucets, geez what a pain in the ass
It mounts to the wall. Right 😮
Kohler Unifit Adapter...Install them many times.That adapter has to fit Flush on the Floor. Kohler ALSO makes it 10 or 14" Rough..Once ya get the hang of it...I always caulk the adapter with silicone to floor.
Also the Sink looks like an Estately ( Kohler) Kohler makes it in a BABY ESTATELY...could miss the Door
( Yup/ Kohler has some old Engineering stuff.
Real winer there!
I have thought about getting a skirted toilet. Just because the smooth sides are easier to clean.
That toilet looks like it would work in Australia. Australian toilets discharge into the wall and have a plastic extension piece to connect to the wall. Kohler supplied an adaptor to discharge into the floor for the USA. Except that Australian toilets don't have those side hold down screws.
Those fixtures look really nice even if they were a pain to install. That sink may be able to be scootched a bit to the right to fix the door clearance issue. Either that or rehang the door to open out.
How do you snake it ?
I think I saw one of the commenters above state that due to the design, it can’t be snaked or augered.
I agree with Trent, that was funny, sorry you had to install that crap Steve . But I’m sure you got paid well for that job. Take care Steve give Molly a pet for me.
Once you do one they are a piece of cake. This shit was hilarious though. Definitely can relate to my first time doing this same toilet lol
How do you really feel about this new toilet
It does look easy to clean.
Mama told me not to come. She said, This ain't no way to have fun son. Holy crap Batman!
I made toilets for American Standard in central Indiana one summer back in the 1960's. We got paid piecemeal at about 3 dollars a toiler and you were expected to make 25 a day. I can only imagine the molds it took to form these.
Fxxx Mickey Mouse w/c. As soon as I saw the Kohler box I burst into laughter. You have the best commentary of any plumbing channel I've ever watched. This is the reality of residential service plumbing--absolutely authentic.
Kohler designs garbage like this because Americans buy it.