Great video. Little side note on the explanation of pushing film. If you decide to push your film you are deliberately underexposing the film. The underexposure is actually what is causing the grain. Grain is more present in underexposed and out of focus areas. Concerning the contrast. The first data that is "lost" is the darkest part in your scene. So by overdeveloping the film it will first bring out the details in the highlights, then some in the mids and little to nothing in the shadows. Hence creating more contrast.
Agreed, pushing film is the kind of thing you would learn at photojournalism schools where the majority of the students and even many of the teachers have no idea how to expose and develop film.
I used the Kodak TMAX400 120 film for many years, I shot it at 200 ASA/ISO and developed it in a thin solution for a long time with very few and very gently agitations, in that way the film had more grey tones and had still very good contrast, in modern words, larger dynamic range. I guess you can do the same with a Ilford Delta 400 film. Of paper I used Ilford Multigrade. Made great images from my 6x6 Hasselblad !
Great video. With the clouds and poor lighting it might have been a better idea just to rate both at 200 and then develop normally and push. Most shots seem a stop or so underexposed but the look of the shots definitely reflects the mood of the day so cheers 🤙🏻. I just usually rate at stop over when there’s heavy overcast and it usually helps with a much cleaner image and crisper contrast. Loved seeing double blads out there in the city. Happy shooting
You could definitely see the increased contrast in the pushed TMax, but not so much the Tri-X. The pushed TMax kinda looked like Tri-X in contrast but was less grainy. The pushed TMax seemed to have a drama about it that the unpushed version lacked. Of course this is all about preferences, Good info, Gents. Thanks.
Agree. It was a very dreary, of and on rainy day so the overall tone of the day was middle grey. It would be interesting to do this on a sunny day to see what the contrast does then. Thanks for the comment.
The focus ring. Buy a focus ring arm. Attachment. I have one on my 503. Huge help. Later on I had the lens serviced and re-lubed. I like synthetic grease vs helical grease. It holds up better in temp extremes. Great video. I have always used Tri-X instead of Tmax. I might have to try Tmax again.
This waw actually really well done and informative. Thank you for this great vs. My only tiny gripe was that on some of the photos, I wish you would have left it a little longer so I had time to compare and contrast. But overall this was a really awesome video so thank you guys
Thanks so much. That was a fun one and after doing this, we became big fans of TMAX pushed +1. And who doesn't love NYC on black and white film? It's the best!
I really liked the images. Each film has its own look, and you can see the subtle differences between box speed and pushed. Just wondering which developer was used?
Eicles - great question. The film was developed and scanned at Richard Photo Lab in Los Angeles. Thanks for the comment and sorry we don’t have an exact answer for the developer.
Just like to point out, because that's how I am... with a system like the Hasselblad that offers interchangeable Backs, I don't see why one would risk possible mishap with changing Films on the street! Even with SLR's that offer no spare backs, I normally at the very least sit down on a bench and change my rolls of film! Anyways, to each his own...
Braedon chiming in here. I'll shoot upwards of 70 rolls on a gig and am just used to changing rolls quickly and on the fly. It becomes a necessity when moving quickly and when shooting multiple rolls all day.
That would be a lot of spare backs. Your method is good. Better actually. I just don’t carry around a ton of backs and feel just fine changing film on the streets.
T maxx is junk. Tri-x has great gradation in tones. T maxx just has grey. Shot with T-maxx back in the day in photography school, it is not very forgiving when developing as Tri-X is.
Typical American handling of expensive cameras. Straps are for decoration. Loosely holding technological wonders in bustling New York comes across as decadent and disrespectful to me.
Great video. Little side note on the explanation of pushing film. If you decide to push your film you are deliberately underexposing the film. The underexposure is actually what is causing the grain. Grain is more present in underexposed and out of focus areas. Concerning the contrast. The first data that is "lost" is the darkest part in your scene. So by overdeveloping the film it will first bring out the details in the highlights, then some in the mids and little to nothing in the shadows. Hence creating more contrast.
Agreed, pushing film is the kind of thing you would learn at photojournalism schools where the majority of the students and even many of the teachers have no idea how to expose and develop film.
I used the Kodak TMAX400 120 film for many years, I shot it at 200 ASA/ISO and developed it in a thin solution for a long time with very few and very gently agitations, in that way the film had more grey tones and had still very good contrast, in modern words, larger dynamic range. I guess you can do the same with a Ilford Delta 400 film. Of paper I used Ilford Multigrade. Made great images from my 6x6 Hasselblad !
Great video. With the clouds and poor lighting it might have been a better idea just to rate both at 200 and then develop normally and push. Most shots seem a stop or so underexposed but the look of the shots definitely reflects the mood of the day so cheers 🤙🏻. I just usually rate at stop over when there’s heavy overcast and it usually helps with a much cleaner image and crisper contrast. Loved seeing double blads out there in the city. Happy shooting
Two of my favorite film stocks, they both push so well
so well!! I'm loving that TMAX pushed!
You could definitely see the increased contrast in the pushed TMax, but not so much the Tri-X. The pushed TMax kinda looked like Tri-X in contrast but was less grainy. The pushed TMax seemed to have a drama about it that the unpushed version lacked. Of course this is all about preferences, Good info, Gents. Thanks.
Agree. It was a very dreary, of and on rainy day so the overall tone of the day was middle grey. It would be interesting to do this on a sunny day to see what the contrast does then. Thanks for the comment.
Awesome video gents! It was so useful to see the range that the film stocks have! Thank you!
The focus ring. Buy a focus ring arm. Attachment. I have one on my 503. Huge help. Later on I had the lens serviced and re-lubed. I like synthetic grease vs helical grease. It holds up better in temp extremes. Great video.
I have always used Tri-X instead of Tmax. I might have to try Tmax again.
Good video. I with you would heya left the pics up longer so we could ge a good look at them. Thanks
pause the video?
I use my CM with 550 Canon flash, mainly for backstage fashion week. With Portra film, works like a charm.
Love seeing this comparison. Thanks for making this!
It was a fun one to do! Thanks for the comment.
This waw actually really well done and informative. Thank you for this great vs. My only tiny gripe was that on some of the photos, I wish you would have left it a little longer so I had time to compare and contrast. But overall this was a really awesome video so thank you guys
i love the last two videos. Keep it up 👏🏻 #keepfilmalive
Thanks so much!! Definitely more to come. Stay tuned.
Great presentation, loving the look of the tmax!
Same here!! Especially when it was pushed.
After getting the results, I think we decided on the tmax for the win as well! The contrast is so great when pushed.
Tri-X for sure!
1:15 OMG !!!
2:55 Epic !
4:41 Left one 5/5 !
New to your channel, subscribed immediately, love your video's and BW shot in particular.
Thanks so much. That was a fun one and after doing this, we became big fans of TMAX pushed +1. And who doesn't love NYC on black and white film? It's the best!
I kept expecting you all to ask if I had invited Jesus into my life. Good video.
Great video
@4:08 - I know that lady! She lives in Kensington Brooklyn, I haven't seen here since the outbreak so I hope she's stayed safe
Sweet. I miss seeing Dan on NF channel
👋🏼🤓
You might see more of him on this channel!
I like Tri-X for shooting street but always grab T-Max for landscape or portraits.
I really liked the images. Each film has its own look, and you can see the subtle differences between box speed and pushed. Just wondering which developer was used?
Eicles - great question. The film was developed and scanned at Richard Photo Lab in Los Angeles. Thanks for the comment and sorry we don’t have an exact answer for the developer.
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Need to do round 2 with you Wesley!
@@FilmSupplyClub heck yes!
not a great comparison, you need to compare the same picture for all the 4 options, otherwise you can't really see what you like best
3:52 overlapping? Or first frame?
I think there should be a law against people with Leicas and Hasselblads having bad audio. Especially if they’re wearing white shirts.
Cool video where did you get the Camera strap for the Hasselblad?
Just like to point out, because that's how I am... with a system like the Hasselblad that offers interchangeable Backs, I don't see why one would risk possible mishap with changing Films on the street!
Even with SLR's that offer no spare backs, I normally at the very least sit down on a bench and change my rolls of film! Anyways, to each his own...
Braedon chiming in here. I'll shoot upwards of 70 rolls on a gig and am just used to changing rolls quickly and on the fly. It becomes a necessity when moving quickly and when shooting multiple rolls all day.
@@FilmSupplyClub What ever happened to spare Backs?
That would be a lot of spare backs. Your method is good. Better actually. I just don’t carry around a ton of backs and feel just fine changing film on the streets.
@@FilmSupplyClub 5 would do! But, however, Good Luck in Shooting!
Evidently unaware of the purpose of a camera strap.
2:20 You are missing your focus ring, either had a lever on it, or you lost it somehow haha
I’m shocked because they are looking more grey than usual. Almost like an Ilford film.
Agree. It was also a very grey, cloudy day....so that might have contributed to the overall feel a bit.
Got it!!!
They started shooting as soon as the left the b&h.
Ha. Good eye. That was definitely the starting point.
Mormons upping their game!
Are you guys too cool to wear the straps? I was sweating watching you wave those 5K$ + cameras around like they were hoagies.
$5k is a bit ambitious :)
Ha. We just had so much gear and so many cameras with us that day.
They are no Pro's; just bloody amateurs with a lot of blabla.
T maxx is junk. Tri-x has great gradation in tones. T maxx just has grey. Shot with T-maxx back in the day in photography school, it is not very forgiving when developing as Tri-X is.
Agree to a degree. Tmax looks pretty good pushed but at box speed, it’s too grey and not enough contrast.
Typical American handling of expensive cameras. Straps are for decoration. Loosely holding technological wonders in bustling New York comes across as decadent and disrespectful to me.
Bold statements there Robert. Keep your stereotyping and nasty criticisms to yourself please.
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