You need to learn scales, voice leading and progressions. Just playing dissonant chord after dissonant chord will sound terrible and unbearably cheesy if you don't know what you're doing. You generally don't want to start a riff on a chord like this either. You can do but it usually sounds cheesy. It's better as a starting point to learn how to work them into your riffs in amongst chords with regular 3rd and 5th intervals. You also want to think more in terms of melody than just chords. Start with the melodic notes you hear in your head, then work out which root notes sound right, then add in the middle/extra/droning notes if you want them. Don't start with a chord unless you're experienced and you already know which chords will match the melody. Just saying this to potentially save someone going through the period of frustration and confusion that I did.
Man benötigt auf jeden Fall auch das Wissen der Harmonielehre, um die Akkorde gut zu verbinden. Oft gibt es lydische Tensions oder generell sollte man mal gucken, ob diese coolen Metal-Tensions in irgendeiner Kirchentonart von melodisch oder harmonisch Moll zu finden sind. Es gibt noch die symmetrische Halbton- Ganztonleiter, die auch herhalten kann und verminderte, aber auch Dur und Moll Akkorde beinhaltet, sowie alteriert 13 Dominant 7 Tensions. Diese exotischen Akkorde muss man weiterführen und in einen harmonischen Kontext setzen. Eine Möglichkeit wären alterierte Dominant 7 Akkorde, verminderte und die Kadenz mit der grossen Terz nach unten, wo unten ein Dur Akkord ist, sollte man auch nicht vergessen, sowie lydische Akkordfelder. Vielleicht kann man die Akkorde sogar im Jazz Fusion Bereich einsetzen, oder man macht auf Klassik/Romantik und orientiert sich am Tristan-Akkord
@@DevGohil I'm going through your lessons. Best Black Metal teacher I've seen. I'm watching Black Metal Lesson #17-Black Metal Song Writing. Happy Thanksgiving!
C C# B A any of those are good just depends on what sound you're going for. Don't dismiss drop tunings either, there are some cool chords you can do in drop tuning that are difficult/impossible in standard tunings
I'd like to see a video on how you go about figuring out chords like this by ear, when I figure out clean chords I try to hum the notes low to high and that usually works but it seems impossible to figure out complex distorted chords accurately because it can be difficult to hear the fundamental frequencies through all of the out of tune overtones. Obviously I think distorted chords sound good since I listen to black metal but I don't understand how to figure them out without live videos, especially for more raw songs. Any tips?
Figure out the highest notes, then the root notes (or root then highest if you prefer), then the other notes in the chord one by one. Play the notes on your guitar while you're hearing the song, balance the volumes so you can clearly hear them both. You'll get it if you play around. Intervals become easier to pick up on with experience but it's still very difficult to dissect an atypical 4+ note chord by ear all at once. That's not what you want to try to do.
You need to learn scales, voice leading and progressions. Just playing dissonant chord after dissonant chord will sound terrible and unbearably cheesy if you don't know what you're doing. You generally don't want to start a riff on a chord like this either. You can do but it usually sounds cheesy. It's better as a starting point to learn how to work them into your riffs in amongst chords with regular 3rd and 5th intervals. You also want to think more in terms of melody than just chords. Start with the melodic notes you hear in your head, then work out which root notes sound right, then add in the middle/extra/droning notes if you want them. Don't start with a chord unless you're experienced and you already know which chords will match the melody.
Just saying this to potentially save someone going through the period of frustration and confusion that I did.
^this
damn spitting some facts here
Man benötigt auf jeden Fall auch das Wissen der Harmonielehre, um die Akkorde gut zu verbinden. Oft gibt es lydische Tensions oder generell sollte man mal gucken, ob diese coolen Metal-Tensions in irgendeiner Kirchentonart von melodisch oder harmonisch Moll zu finden sind. Es gibt noch die symmetrische Halbton- Ganztonleiter, die auch herhalten kann und verminderte, aber auch Dur und Moll Akkorde beinhaltet, sowie alteriert 13 Dominant 7 Tensions. Diese exotischen Akkorde muss man weiterführen und in einen harmonischen Kontext setzen. Eine Möglichkeit wären alterierte Dominant 7 Akkorde, verminderte und die Kadenz mit der grossen Terz nach unten, wo unten ein Dur Akkord ist, sollte man auch nicht vergessen, sowie lydische Akkordfelder. Vielleicht kann man die Akkorde sogar im Jazz Fusion Bereich einsetzen, oder man macht auf Klassik/Romantik und orientiert sich am Tristan-Akkord
That's what I'm talking about
Awesome lesson man, cheers.
thanks for a new video
Thank u bro for all of this lessons. Lot of stuff i didn't know, this is Kvlture!
2:11 So, that's where Jeff White (Wrest) gets that unsettling sound.
hahah, that was from a 1349 song
@@DevGohil I'm going through your lessons. Best Black Metal teacher I've seen. I'm watching Black Metal Lesson #17-Black Metal Song Writing. Happy Thanksgiving!
thank you so much man enjoy the videos@@morbidcorpse5954
One day, will you make a lesson on more dissonant black metal stuff, things like deathspell omega and Convulsing?
This is pretty much it, the groundwork of building those sounds it’s up to you lot to be creative and experiment for yourselves
Man, that sounds great
This is gold.
Sus2 and Full diminished chords are also quite useful!
Your a legend for this vid
Would you consider covering 'Cockatrice' and 'Living Temples' by Funeral Mist?
Potentially
What tuning are you in here?
E standard
I finally found the method
Man, that's so fucking grim😨😈
What was the second band ? Did you say Thorn?
Thorns
What would be the best for Black / death metal guitar tuning?
Any, it’s personal preference
@@DevGohil Creating a good sound is not easy. Greetings from Hungary!
C C# B A any of those are good just depends on what sound you're going for. Don't dismiss drop tunings either, there are some cool chords you can do in drop tuning that are difficult/impossible in standard tunings
@@nickcrane8329 Thanks🤘
D standard for me
Tabs?
I'd like to see a video on how you go about figuring out chords like this by ear, when I figure out clean chords I try to hum the notes low to high and that usually works but it seems impossible to figure out complex distorted chords accurately because it can be difficult to hear the fundamental frequencies through all of the out of tune overtones. Obviously I think distorted chords sound good since I listen to black metal but I don't understand how to figure them out without live videos, especially for more raw songs. Any tips?
Even I struggle with working these types of chords by ear, it’s just trial and error
Figure out the highest notes, then the root notes (or root then highest if you prefer), then the other notes in the chord one by one. Play the notes on your guitar while you're hearing the song, balance the volumes so you can clearly hear them both. You'll get it if you play around. Intervals become easier to pick up on with experience but it's still very difficult to dissect an atypical 4+ note chord by ear all at once. That's not what you want to try to do.